competition-math

[ornate blade]

also there's multiple roles

you don't have to be a trader

[glad zinc]

I want to go through quant trader to then become quant portfolio manager

[ornate blade]

they have different rotations when you intern so you get to experience strategy and other roles

[high goblet]

anyway i'm procrastinating my optimisation problem sheet that i really don't wanna do so i'll probs actually start on that now!

[glad zinc]

because Pms are closest to alpha

so make most money

[glad zinc]

glhf

[high goblet]

no hf

[ornate blade]

lol

[high goblet]

it's utterly boring

[ornate blade]

btw, you sure you don't want to make a quick buck and then do something less draining

[glad zinc]

yeah I wouldnt mind that, but when Im actually working and not an intern I want to be in the part that makes the money

[deft wraith]

good luck ly feel free to dm me that recollection of int questions when you get the time

[glad zinc]

I really enjoy the maths behind it, so i dont really mind, these are just my thoughts today and Im only in y12, so things will probably change

[glad zinc]

can you send im curious to see what it looks like

[deft wraith]

i think theyre available online on the website

[high goblet]

https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/study/IB/Optimization/2022-2023/example1_easter23.pdf

https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/study/IB/Optimization/2022-2023/example2_easter23.pdf

in general u can find all of cambridge's problem sheets here

https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/study/

[deft wraith]

https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/study/IB/Optimization/

yep there you go

[glad zinc]

Where the fuck are the numbers

[high goblet]

https://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/examples/

[deft wraith]

linear programming 🥲

[ornate blade]

sets sets sets

[high goblet]

do u wanna apply cam too?

[glad zinc]

Yeah, st johns probably

[high goblet]

ah ic

[glad zinc]

apparently the foods good there

and also the head of maths at st johns came to my school so he biased me

[ornate blade]

tries not to say anything about British food

[glad zinc]

the battle of lesser evils

if its the least bad one

then why not

its like 2-3 for math anyways

the guy was shitting on trinity too

[high goblet]

ewww trinity > johns

we beat them at basically everything

[glad zinc]

[glad zinc]

like what

[high goblet]

the only thing johns does better than us is losing

[glad zinc]

he said theres alot of smart people at trinity but also alot of dumb people 💀

idk where hes getting this info from

[high goblet]

ahaha

trinity often have like quite a lot of the top 10 for maths

ofc there are ppl who aren't that good but like u'll get them at most colleges

[glad zinc]

He also asked us "When I ask people why they applied to st johns instead of trinity what do you think is the most common response", I said because they thought they would get rejected from trinity

was funny experience

[high goblet]

LMAO

[glad zinc]

I feel bad too me and a friend kept him in school until like 6 o clock, he was meant to leave at 4:30 😭

at least i learnt quite a bit

really nice guy too

dr dorrzapf

[high goblet]

ah right

anyway back to problems

[deft wraith]

i heard the food is best at emmanuel

[deft wraith]

senior wrangler was from johns this year sooo 😆

[glad zinc]

chatgpt food rankings

they should add this as a criteria for rankings imo

[jolly solstice]

competing for the best cafeteria lol

[glad zinc]

I wonder how hard getting senior wrangler is

[glad zinc]

The shit that really matters

[high goblet]

2025 SW is definitely gonna be trinity

[glad zinc]

this is the competition wtf

sitting hte GCSE when he was 5 years old is the wildest thing Ive ever heard

[high goblet]

the funny story i always get told abt him was that

he really wanted to do IMO

but wasn't good enough to make the UK team

anyway through some really obscure connection he managed to get on the bolivian team or smth like that lol

[glad zinc]

Do yk what medal he got

[high goblet]

u can find him on the IMO website

[glad zinc]

oh yeah

[ornate blade]

bruv

[glad zinc]

now hes in a uni in northern cyprus

bro he did all that

OH WAIT

he teaches at a turkish uni thats so cool

Im turkish

[ornate blade]

merhaba

[glad zinc]

nasilsin

[ornate blade]

oh cool I didn't know what the response was

I found out today

[glad zinc]

That means how are you

[glad zinc]

learn something new everyday

[gusty verge]

Johns is the maths college ngl, Churchill also really good for maths, close to maths blocks so lots of cracked post grads there

[glad zinc]

Dont think LY agrees with the first statement

Honestly i dont care that much about the college, obviously I would rather be in some than others but as long as I get in to cambridge Ill be happy

[ornate blade]

how do you guys all know so much about Cambridge

[deft wraith]

yes i know haha

and 2020 probably wouldve been neel nanda who is also trinity

do you think there was a significant difference between the way you worked and the guy who ranked at the top of ia did? or was it less clear cut

[high goblet]

i'm not that familiar with the guy who ranked top of IA in my year

i am very familiar with the guy who ranked top of IB

but yeah in general the ppl at the top just work really hard

[high goblet]

bruh lol

[deft wraith]

trinity is definitely the maths college

[high goblet]

that's the first time i've heard john's described as the maths college?

normally ppl asssociate maths colleges with trinity

asw as queen's and churchill

[glad zinc]

Ive seen alot of people online mention johns for top 3 maths

Which one has the best parties

[gusty verge]

Tbh, you'll meet people from all colleges. Focus on which college has the best facilities and rooms.

[glad zinc]

im talking about all this but watch me apply and get rejected next year 😭

[gusty verge]

Johns hosts the domestic maths competitions?

Has it's own maths soc

Also most maths people from camb I know are from Johns

[deft wraith]

so does trinity

imo and ioi camps are held at trinity so most competition people will be familiar/ probably apply to trinity

[gusty verge]

Even so, all are good choices

[deft wraith]

yes johns is really good

[gusty verge]

Trinity and Johns probably best two, but if life outside of maths is also important, then consider other colleges like churchill

[high goblet]

which domestic maths competitions? i never knew abt this

[gusty verge]

Are you applying now? Or applying next year? Because if you're applying next year then you have lots of time to grind and boss the entrance exams

[gusty verge]

Integration Bee

ICMC

[high goblet]

ICMC wasn't held at st johns last year

[gusty verge]

Well qualifiers for that

Fairs

[high goblet]

qualifier was surprisingly held at caius

[deft wraith]

integration bee is at oxford now i think

because vishal has moved to do his phd there

but johns has that prize for doing well in step which is good

[high goblet]

the integration bee was held at the CMS when i did it last year

[gusty verge]

Fairs

[high goblet]

but yeah i'll take ur word that they held maths competitions in the past

[gusty verge]

I mean when I went to the finals it was in johns that's all

[high goblet]

honestly adding to this, don't worry too much about which college u end up with

i will semi-jokingly say that trinity is the best college but like most ppl will really love the college they end up at

i think trinity has quite a good maths culture if ur into like doing well & like olympiad-y stuff

but like u'll do plenty well at the other colleges too

[gusty verge]

Yeah culture is important

Hard to grind if you're surrounded by people who don't grind

[high goblet]

also up to u what ur looking for in a college

trinity & johns are stacked so they have lots of money for bursaries etc.

and then also trinity usually has ~30/40ish mathmos/year

on one hand, having lots of mathmos can be quite nice cus u have lots of ppl to talk to abt maths

but some ppl prefer having like a smaller community for maths

[gusty verge]

Idk if this got answered but it's essentially requiring a proof that the only functions that have the additive property are lines:
$y=mx$.

The logical first step is to set $x=y=0$ which shows $f(0)=0$. But this unnecessary.

First look at $x=y$, which shows $f(2x)=2f(x)$. You can then do the same setting $y=2x$, which shows $f(3x)=f(x)+f(2x)=3f(x)$. You can then repeat this inductively to prove $f(mx)=mf(x)$ for integers.

You can likewise show $f(qx)=qf(x)$ for all rational numbers using the above:

$f(qx)=f\left(\frac{m}{n}x\right)=mf\left(\frac{1}{n}x\right)=\frac{m}{n}\left(nf\left(\frac{1}{n}x\right)\right)=\frac{m}{n}f(x)=qf(x)$.

Now for irrational numbers I'm not sure how you'd prove it other than using continuity of f.

Then just use the fact that $f(1)$ is a constant so we let $f(1)=1$. So $f(x)=xf(1)=cx$

[gilded halo]

Max

[high goblet]

in general it's actually not true

if we take R instead of [0, \infinity) then it's not true

but i suspect you can probably extend our function [0, \infinity) to a R->R function

[high goblet]

and then monstrous counterexamples to ^ are dense in R^2 so therefore must be linear

[gusty verge]

Hmm yeah, I wonder if there is a nice way of showing it works for irrational

I remember from analysis we proved the power rule in a similar way: integers -> rational -> irrational

I suppose we can use the following (where q is rational and r is irrational):
$f(rx)=\lim_{q\rightarrow r} f(qx)=\lim_{q\rightarrow r} qf(x)=rf(x)$

[gilded halo]

Max

[warped wedge]

whats the most accurate mock for amc12, especially for the first 15 questions

[brave heron]

Best Problem in IMO History

[glad zinc]

next year

[deft wraith]

you can find mocks on mathdash

[gusty verge]

Hit the grind bro, you'll get in if you grind from now

[radiant jasper]

help me atleast give me some hints

[shadow spruce]

Convergence?

[shadow spruce]

Convergence or evaluate

[glad zinc]

Hopefully, as I said before I already started grinding for STEP to enter a year early, it’s going to be a very tough journey but I’ve been putting in the hours and I believe I’ll be able to get 1,1 or higher

[radiant jasper]

evaluate

[ornate blade]

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=120%2F((x%2B1)(x%2B2)(x%2B3)(x%2B4)(x%2B5)(x%2B6))+partial+fractions

an interesting pattern arises with the partial fractions

[radiant jasper]

AMC trivial

gives past papers of AMC tests

[gusty verge]

I haven't tried it but it looks like partial fractions and then using telescoping. Perhaps try find an inductive rule for partial fractions?

[radiant jasper]

whats that inductive whatever

okay i got it

[gusty verge]

You got the answer?

[radiant jasper]

Lord! You are in Cambridge! That too at Trinity! I'd die to be there!

[ocean narwhal]

Ig use (n-1)! = (x+n)(n-2)! -(x+1)(n-2)!

Yes this works

[trim bramble]

2^182 + 4^x + 8^700, what is the least position integer value of x that makes the above equation a perfect square?

anyone got an idea? i got 571 using a weird comparing parts of (a + b)^2 , but i don’t know if thats the lowest value or correct.

[reef condor]

It’s right

And it’s not weird

[trim bramble]

was a little weird to me, never tried it before

and thank you

[gilded halo]

Cube

[untold thunder]

I literally can not delete

Texit is sellar

[royal estuary]

Gamma function son

[shadow spruce]

Is the answer a function?

[jolly geyser]

Bro i also want to get admission in trinity college Cambridge can u please guide me a little

[ornate blade]

oh congrats you found LY

#serious-discussion message

for context this is where my discussion with them started

[high goblet]

ahaha i'm just the trinity college cam helper

[high goblet]

i'll read #serious-discussion first and then i'll reply to this

[high goblet]

basically just do a lot of maths

i'm not sure how entirely the indian system works

but basically as long as ur school grades are good and u should get an interview

(i believe they're scrapping the personal statement for 2025+, not entirely sure what replaces it)

(but whatever the replacement is, it won't be particularly important for maths applications)

[high goblet]

different colleges will have slightly different interview processes

[ornate blade]

I've answered that part, don't you worry

[high goblet]

ah kk

[high goblet]

for trinity college, they have a 10 question test in an hour slot before ur interview

and then you get your 45m interview where you go over the questions you did

[ornate blade]

I wanted to be honest with them, so I told them you can't guarantee an interview, but you can only maximise your chances

damn, did my time helping secondary students really pay off

with uni and careers stuff

[high goblet]

ahaha lol

[ornate blade]

it was all on Discord but yes

in the IB server

[high goblet]

i'm not entirely sure what it's like for international students, but generally with cambridge it's quite easy to get an interview for maths

if u have top grades and ur p.s. isn't bad then you'll almost certainly be interviewed

do note that for cambridge maths, the interview is not the final hurdle - you have to do STEP afterwards too

[ornate blade]

oh that's nice, I somehow had the impression they were stricter than Oxford

their entry requirements are just a tad higher

cause for Oxford if you do amazingly on your interview, it doesn't matter you only have say A* A A

[ornate blade]

talked about STEP with them too

but yeah feel free to add more detail about that

I didn't talk about it that much

[high goblet]

i think with oxford maths vs cambridge maths, it's harder to get an interview at oxford because you have to do the entrance exam beforehand so they are a lot more picky about who to interview

[ornate blade]

only gave them a link to Cambridge's site which has a ton of advice

[ornate blade]

oh interesting

yeah the MAT for Oxford

[ornate blade]

wait do you have to do STEP before you submit your UCAS application

or not

[high goblet]

whereas STEP happens after interviews so it's easier to get an interview and an offer from cambridge, but roughly ~1/2 the ppl who get an offer from cambridge fail to get in cus of STEP (whereas basically everyone with an offer from ox gets in)

[high goblet]

you don't have to do STEP before ur UCAS application

some very good ppl who are confident they can get i.e. SS one year early will do STEP 1 year early so it doesn't clash with their exams

but if you are not confident in getting SS 1 year early then i wouldn't recommend doing so

[jolly geyser]

sorry bro my wifi got shut on its own.....

[high goblet]

aha nw

[jolly geyser]

i just got it fixed

[high goblet]

i probably won't say too much abt STEP cus u've gotta get an offer first lol, but generally with STEP i kinda find it kinda boring

you've just gotta do a lot of algebra so it can be a bit dead

but probs best to properly practise that after an offer rather than before lol

[jolly geyser]

is olympiad necessary

[ornate blade]

oh right yeah STEP is mad hard

[high goblet]

nah olympiad isn't necessary

i'd say with olympiads & uni applications

[jolly geyser]

can i give step in 11th grade ?

if i just want to

[high goblet]

it's more that the ppl that do really well on olympiads often also do really well in maths in general so ppl at good unis often tend to do well on olympiads

rather than olympiads => good university

[ornate blade]

but you can be brilliant at maths without doing a single competition

it's more so that the people who tend to be good at maths also tend to do competitions

[high goblet]

but i think doing olympiads can be a good experience, especially if u don't have that much experience problem solving

[ornate blade]

it's a sociocultural thing rather than some marker of talent

[high goblet]

so if u don't really have much to do it's defo worth doing them

trinity is often quite known for having a load of IMO and other international oly students lmao

[high goblet]

idk what 11th grade is, but like u can do STEP whenever

it's just there isn't a benefit to do so unless u think ur gonna get >= 1,1

(actually i personally would not advise doing step early unless you think ur gonna get SS, cus if u think ur gonna get 1,1 and u end up getting 1,2 then it doesn't really contribute anything)

[jolly geyser]

if i get a s then ? will it guarantee my selection...

just asking...😀

i am an indian so will i have to give ielts?

[high goblet]

as in if u get SS it just means they won't give u a STEP offer cus u've already met it

actually i'm not sure how doing STEP early affects interview selection

but if ur grades are top then u should get an interview

[high goblet]

idk what that is

[jolly geyser]

are interviews hard ?

[high goblet]

https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/subjects/mathematics/

[high goblet]

trinity have some sample interview questions here

[jolly geyser]

no worry

[high goblet]

they say that if u can solve >= 3 questions in the 1hr timeslot, then u have a decent chance of getting an offer

but like probably best to be able to solve like ~5ish

u get to talk about the problems in the interview too so if u solve ~7 after the interview i think that's normally pretty good

except it might be harder for internationals so i'm not too sure

[jolly geyser]

is there any kind of book which can make me good at these kind of questions

[high goblet]

probs do olympiad practice, that's quite nice

u said u were grade 10?

[jolly geyser]

yes

[high goblet]

ok according to google that's Y11

u've got like ages

make sure ur school grades are good

[jolly geyser]

i have cleared 1 st stage with 2 days of preparation of mathematics olympiad

but i dont like giving olympiads

[high goblet]

then probs just do like maths olympiad stuff cus a lot of the skills are transferrable

u could also look at the MAT, that's quite good too for practice

[jolly geyser]

can u help me what is a personal statement

[high goblet]

(Oxford's entrance exam)

[high goblet]

u don't need to worry about that, they'll have axed it for ur year

idk what they're replacing it with though, so u'll have to ask someone else about that

[ornate blade]

yeah search up "UCAS personal statement 2026"

[high goblet]

there's probably a UK university discord server?

[ornate blade]

I already gave you that link also from UCAS

[high goblet]

i wouldn't know tho

https://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/study-here/undergraduate-study/maths-admissions-test

[jolly geyser]

no i mean what will i have to write in it

[high goblet]

https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/subjects/mathematics/

[jolly geyser]

like beside my passion etc

[high goblet]

and then u can also do some STEP questions as practise ig? but i think the links i gave above are more relevant

[high goblet]

as in there will be no personal statement for when you apply

i don't know what they're doing instead

[jolly geyser]

okkk

is the university mathematics hard ?

[high goblet]

https://maths.org/step/events

[high goblet]

i know they're also running a series of webinars regarding problem solving

not entirely sure who it's targetted at

hmm it says that it's aimed at students who have applied to cambridge this year so maybe it's a bit early

but anyway i will be there for some of the webinar sessions

[high goblet]

it's a big jump compared to school maths but if ur prepared no not really

[jolly geyser]

i am very bad at social science will they consider my marks in it ? besides mathematics....

[jolly geyser]

then it is gonna be fun.....

[high goblet]

oxford maths have all their courses publically available so if u get bored of prepping for interviews u can also work through some of the stuff there

https://courses.maths.ox.ac.uk/

[ornate blade]

only you will know what's fun for you

[ornate blade]

if you open the links and read, you'll know

[high goblet]

well ok so for a level, they don't really care about non-maths grades, but i'm not sure what it'll be like for internationals cus idk how international exams work

probs best to speak to an international about that

but probably not is what i'd say

as long as it looks like u've put in effort

also i'm gonna go to dinner now and then i've gotta do my problem sheets

[jolly geyser]

i have completed basic calculus.... but i suck at number theory

[gusty verge]

Not much number theory at A-level

I know for European Bacc students, Cambridge expects you to study extra outside of the course because it doesn't cover enough maths content

But just email to ask about ur specific course

[jolly geyser]

u mean extracurricular

[gusty verge]

Yeah

[jolly geyser]

i was going into national taekwondo team last year but my bone got fractured.......

hehehehe.......

[ornate blade]

the problem with Indian maths is not it doesn't go into depth, cause it absolutely does

it's that it's too braindead

[ornate blade]

that's a flex though

I've never heard an Indian person say they wanted to represent their country in sports

your country's Olympics record is terrible, which sucks

[jolly geyser]

yess u are right

my father was a athelete so he wanted me to play

an*

do u think indian maths gonna help me with step

[ornate blade]

yeah

[ornate blade]

what a flex

[jolly geyser]

is there number theory in mathematics

of step

[ornate blade]

no, there's only pure maths, mechanics, and statistics

a lot of these questions are Googleable you know

[jolly geyser]

i did chat gpt but dont get a good answer

[jolly geyser]

i was just wondering are u in oxford ?

[ornate blade]

nope I go to uni in Australia

[ornate blade]

not chatGPT cause it doesn't know anything

it just generates an answer based on the most likely next word

so you can definitely make it far in life without going to an elite uni

I go to a very ordinary uni (that is in the top 100 by QS rankings, but what does that even matter)

[jolly geyser]

u tried for cambridge ?

[ornate blade]

I'd say your character as well as making the most of whatever opportunities you have is far more important

[ornate blade]

I didn't bother

[jolly geyser]

ohhhh

if i solely dedicate 1 year to step preparation will it be enough?

[ornate blade]

just try and see how you go

there's not really a way to know ahead of time

[jolly geyser]

do u think it would be good if i do any extracurricular ?

[ornate blade]

yeah, just to help your personal growth and stuff

it's not necessary for your personal statement though, for the UK

[jolly geyser]

have u heard of iit

here in india ?

[ornate blade]

yeah

[jolly geyser]

it sucksssssssssssssss

i have sent u a friend request

[ornate blade]

okay but I'm not obligated to respond to anything, just saying

[jolly geyser]

no worry brother.....

[glad zinc]

No way?

[real basin]

hello people

[ember heron]

Hi guys, I have SEAMO Math comp next week and I really need someone to help tutor me a bit 🙏 (grade 9)

[radiant jasper]

sure but im pretty swamped so ill try

[radiant jasper]

i think there are SEAMO past papers on AoPS, try searching there, just dm me for clarifications or questions

[radiant jasper]

yuh

[south socket]

merhaba

[spiral cedar]

Hi, does anyone know how to make 8 in power 2023=1489(mod2017) into 8 in power 2023=c(mod2023)?

[ornate blade]

,w is 2023 prime

[gilded halo]

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Requested by sooouth.

[ornate blade]

frick

Fermat's little theorem doesn't apply directly

[ornate blade]

so the approach would be to find 8^2023 modulo 7 and modulo 17^2

then use the Chinese remainder theorem

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2924607/understanding-lifting-method-in-hensels-lemma

this might help for the modulo 17^2 part

in other words, forget about 2023=1489(mod2017) completely

[spiral cedar]

Thank you very much, I have one more question, what "method" is best to apply in this example "at what A 31 divides (3 ^ 3 ^ A ) - A"

[ornate blade]

ohhhh, for which A does 31 divide 3^(3^A) - A right?

[spiral cedar]

yes

[ornate blade]

hmmm

yeah now this question should be an application of Fermat's little theorem

so $3^p - 3 \equiv 0 \pmod p$

[gilded halo]

south's secret twin brother

[ornate blade]

no wait

it's so confusing with the double exponents

[spiral cedar]

ok, ty anyway

[gilded halo]

Cube

[ornate blade]

what's the answer? the result doesn't look neat

[warped wedge]

how much harder is amc12 2020-2024 compared with 2015-2019?

[ornate blade]

Depends what is hard for you tbh

[soft vigil]

much harder tbh

2015-2019 is light

compared to 2020-2024

although 2024 was a bit underwhelming according to popular opinion

[untold thunder]

I don't remember but I do know that you had to use symmetry

if the roots are $p$ and $q$ with $p<q$, you want $p/q$ so you consider the sum $p/q+q/p$

[gilded halo]

Cube

[untold thunder]

And then you can sub accordingly

[modern prawn]

How much harder is 2020-2023 harder than 2010-2013?

[surreal willow]

A LOT harder

[modern prawn]

Oooof

[surreal willow]

for example 2012s amc 10 hardest question (25) is Real numbers $x$, $y$, and $z$ are chosen independently and at random from the interval $[0,n]$ for some positive integer $n$. The probability that no two of $x$, $y$, and $z$ are within 1 unit of each other is greater than $\frac {1}{2}$. What is the smallest possible value of $n$?

[gilded halo]

Ryxo

[surreal willow]

2022s is this

Let $R$, $S$, and $T$ be squares that have vertices at lattice points (i.e., points whose coordinates are both integers) in the coordinate plane, together with their interiors. The bottom edge of each square is on the $x$-axis. The left edge of $R$ and the right edge of $S$ are on the $y$-axis, and $R$ contains $\frac{9}{4}$ as many lattice points as does $S$. The top two vertices of $T$ are in $R \cup S$, and $T$ contains $\frac{1}{4}$ of the lattice points contained in $R \cup S.$ See the figure (not drawn to scale).

[gilded halo]

Ryxo

[surreal willow]

They are both hard but one is a lot harder

Also the 2022s regular questions are harder and trickier as well

[modern prawn]

Bruuuh

Im going to kill myself and reincarnate born in the 2000’s

[surreal willow]

Lol

[vernal knot]

what?

[surreal willow]

what math competition ar u doing?

[modern prawn]

amc 10

[surreal willow]

SAME

[vernal knot]

what do u mock

Same

[surreal willow]

Yo we all doing amc 10

[modern prawn]

I havent ever taken a full amc 10 mock test, only did a few questions to test myself for like 30 mins

[vernal knot]

yea

[modern prawn]

Ima give myself 60 mins rn with a mock amc 10 test and see what i get

someone send me a mock amc 10 test

rn

[vernal knot]

i mocked like 130.5 like yesterday

[surreal willow]

u can do a real one

[vernal knot]

ill send u what i mocked

[surreal willow]

https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/2012_AMC_10A

[vernal knot]

do the 2023 one

and give urslevf 75 mins

[modern prawn]

2023 i already saw rhe questions

[vernal knot]

oh

[modern prawn]

send me an actual mock test

I’ve seen all questions 2017-2023

[vernal knot]

then do 2016

[surreal willow]

Ahhh ok

[vernal knot]

https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/2016_AMC_10A

[modern prawn]

gl yall ima do it rn

[vernal knot]

why 60

[modern prawn]

40 mins only though

[modern prawn]

Im too lazy

actually yeah 60 minutes

[surreal willow]

💀

glgl

[vernal knot]

its 15 extra

[vernal knot]

what grade are u guys in?

[surreal willow]

9th for me

[vernal knot]

same

[surreal willow]

wbu?

oh

r u asian?

[vernal knot]

yes

[surreal willow]

chinese?

[vernal knot]

no

[modern prawn]

8th, im guessing i’ll get a 85-90

[surreal willow]

dang

[vernal knot]

solid did u do the AMC 8?

[surreal willow]

ur doing amc 10 early

[modern prawn]

Imm going to

[modern prawn]

No

[vernal knot]

its very easy so make sure to do try it

[modern prawn]

Im competing with my friend, by amc 10 comp time i should be able to get a 95+

[surreal willow]

oh

nicenice

[vernal knot]

thats good for 8th grade

[surreal willow]

yea

[vernal knot]

i didnt to the amc 10 in 8th grade

i did the amc8

[vernal knot]

did u do the amc 8?

[surreal willow]

did any of u guys do mathcounts?

[surreal willow]

nope mathcounts

[vernal knot]

oh

no i didnt do mathcounts

[surreal willow]

yea

yall missing out

[vernal knot]

what did u place

?

[surreal willow]

mathcounts actually fun

SOSOSOSOSOSO

I didnt get into state unfortunatley

[vernal knot]

did u get reigonals?

[surreal willow]

bc in our regionals (this is uncommon) it was top three teams that whent to state

and my team was absolute trash cause I was the only asian there

[vernal knot]

oh? what is it normally

[surreal willow]

I got 6th place outta 100 something

[surreal willow]

top 12

if they did that I wouldve got into state 😭

[modern prawn]

Ipad ran out of battery when i was doing it lmao

[surreal willow]

💀

[modern prawn]

I AHVE to go eat

Also the amc 2016 was cooking me

[vernal knot]

yes

[vernal knot]

then try the amc 8

its easy

[modern prawn]

I’ve taken amc 8 before

[vernal knot]

what did u get

[modern prawn]

I get like 16-18

[gritty veldt]

Is anyone taking the CSMC

[modern prawn]

its a practice test

I didnt take the real one

[vernal knot]

u still have room for improvemnt

aim for like 20-23 in the amc8

thats like good

[modern prawn]

I’ll study a ton so i get 100 on amc 10, just watch

[vernal knot]

ok but bro u have to start at the amc 8

because the amc 10 yes going to cook you

[modern prawn]

no

I said i already get 80-90

[vernal knot]

yes

but u have so much room for impovemnet

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT9bNzqjDoMnF2rmrySRQF_c_gUjKkVMe

whatch all of this videos and learn them

[modern prawn]

i’m already watching amc 10 fundamentals from that dude and i can understand it so uea

[vernal knot]

ok good

[modern prawn]

ima just keep watching the amc 10 fundamentals

[vernal knot]

but make sure u actually like do amc 8s

like mock them

like for me, I mock a amc 8 as a warmup, math leauge, amc 10

if u want to get like 130+ then u have to get like 25/25 in th amc 8

do u want me to dm u?

[modern prawn]

well i gott abalance my time

as an 8th grader i get roughly 2-4 hours of homework a day

i come home at 3:20

[vernal knot]

damn thats a lot when i was in like 8th grade I had like 10-30 mins homework

[modern prawn]

bruh

[vernal knot]

For me in 8th grade, i did my hw right after school, did some coding, worked on like physics, then worked on some amc 8, and amc 10 mocks

[modern prawn]

My work ethic is really bad

Because i dont like school

How do u only get 10-30 mins

I also actually have an amc 10 class online from aops so thats more work i guess

[vernal knot]

yo thats very good

[vernal knot]

because like our school was like light

[modern prawn]

bro

im on lesson 3 and it destroyed me, left me brain damaged lol, gotta study a lot and go over the lessons while doing homework

[vernal knot]

of the aops thing?

well if it makes u feel better that would be tenfold if you were self studying

[modern prawn]

wdym

what is tenfold

like what are u talking about that is tenfold

[vernal knot]

like the brain damage

trust me bro

I know what im talking about

[modern prawn]

I’ve self studied a ton

the brain damage is less because there is no time pressure

[soft vigil]

mathcounts mentioned 👀

[radiant jasper]

any tips for amc 2024

i want to get over 120 T.T

[pallid tundra]

I remember my MC days lol

barely missed nats qualification on my last go 😔

[soft vigil]

That sucks 😭

Majority of the fun is at nats

[junior talon]

yo what did you guys think of the senior math challenge?

[radiant jasper]

not really

[whole narwhal]

Guys one of my friends said that that we should do this challenge of trying to get banned from random discord so can one of y’all banned me

[modern prawn]

Why choose a discord with 229k members?

[whole narwhal]

Cause I felt like it

[high goblet]

just do lots of problems lol

begin with like more basic/easier problems

and then eventually make your way up to harder problems

that's generally the best thing u can do especially if u're like just starting

cus u'll be able to find lots of questions that don't require any advanced theory, just like basic rearranging etc. tricks

what's 11th grade? is that like Y12 or Y10? i never remember how to convert US to UK

[high goblet]

but anyway i think one piece of advice is to not be too scared of hard questions

be ambitious with ur choice of problems, if you think u can do problems of difficulty $x$, try problems of difficulty $x + \varepsilon$

[gilded halo]

LY

[high goblet]

(obviously you can also be too ambitious, like if u've never done an olympiad problem don't start with i.e. IMO P3/P6s lol)

once u've gotten some basic problem solving skills you can then start trying to learn theory

[modern prawn]

how to balance math studying with 2-4 hours of homework a day

[ornate blade]

what grade are you in?

[modern prawn]

8th

[ornate blade]

jesus 8th graders shouldn't have that much homework

[modern prawn]

yea apparently theres a school policy or whatever for 1 hour of homework max a day

but teachers apparently cant understand that each student has 6 other periods

so uh

[ornate blade]

can't you do something if that's a school policy then

about the excessive homework

[modern prawn]

meh

technically it is like only 1 hour of homework, but all my teachers make you do classwork as homework if you’re not done (and the classwork is like way too much to complete at school)

so it adds an hour or two

I could probably reduce it to only ~1 hr 30 mins of homework a day if i complete my classwork efficiently but my work ethic is too bad for that, i work much more efficiently at home than school lol

How to improve work ethic

Half my brain is telling me to work while the other half tells me to sleep

[vernal knot]

bro

set small goals

for dopamine

[glad zinc]

Is it actually 2-4 hours or is it 2-4 hours because of inefficiency? I have a look at assignments and think this will take me hours and it ends up being like that because I went in with that mentality, now I go in thinking this should be done in no time e.g. 30 minutes and I use a stopwatch to track my progress. I've gotten a huge boost in efficiency just from that small change

[untold thunder]

My bus ride and lunch periods are exceptionally long so if you also have those consider eating your lunch then starting your homework because that is what I do

[modern prawn]

Work ethic sucks

How to convince myself to do homework as soon as i get home

[untold thunder]

I'm not really sure

You can view doing math as the reward for your diligence and your resolve to complete your homework I guess

[modern prawn]

I dont view math as studying or a reward

[untold thunder]

Why u do it?

[modern prawn]

No its because

I AHVE so much math work rn that im desensitized to math

[untold thunder]

oh

Are you in a magnet school

[modern prawn]

No

[untold thunder]

damn

[modern prawn]

You know aops?

[untold thunder]

yes my favorit

[modern prawn]

Uh so I’m in they’re online amc 10 and amc 8 classes 4/7 days of the week

Its a loooooottttaaaaa homework

[untold thunder]

I personally just read the books which allows me to move at your own pace

But do you even like math?

[modern prawn]

yes

[untold thunder]

Then why don't you view it as rewarding after finishing all your homework?

[modern prawn]

because im getting overwhelmed

[untold thunder]

I can see that :/

[modern prawn]

after this month is over my view of math will return

I knew I would probably grow to get tired of math during this month that was a sacrifice i was willing to make lol

[untold thunder]

Well when you finish these courses consider independent study

[ornate blade]

that explains it

[modern prawn]

After this doing an hour of math randomly will feel normal

[modern prawn]

no

Its seperate homework

[ornate blade]

you should go take a damn break after doing those classes

jeez that's a ton of work

[modern prawn]

yes

its a lotta work

this is how people who hate math feel when they enter math class

probably

Actually I hate math class, in school

Its probably my least favorite class in school

[untold thunder]

I personally try to get as much math as I can done, but If I am messing up my school classes it's harder to get the motivation

[modern prawn]

its not because i hate math

Schools SUCK at teaching math

[untold thunder]

So if you want to feel less pressure and have more time consider putting more effort into your classes so you like them more

[modern prawn]

No wonder so many kids hate math

[modern prawn]

Meh this wasn’t just for math. It was to train myself for excessive overload

[untold thunder]

Math is one of the only subjects that requires deep critical thinking so some people if they don't put in the effort now, they will be behind forever

[modern prawn]

A bad side is it is also a subject that can be conquered just by rote memorization the way schools teach it

[untold thunder]

schools don't teach comp math

[modern prawn]

True. But you don’t need to understand. You just need to memorize

[errant portal]

i have the same mindset for that

[untold thunder]

As math classes get harder in the school system, the quota for critical thinking rises

[modern prawn]

Exactly. But the way they teach it in schools, you can get away with pure memorization.

When the time that critical thinking is required, they are not ready yet

[untold thunder]

In calculus, the problems will not be nearly as straight forward

[errant portal]

that's the worst part

they don't favor critical thinking

just memorization of rules

and formulas

[untold thunder]

No, but eventually, you will have to critically think

and dissect problems

[modern prawn]

When I don’t truly understand something in math idk why but i AHVE a mental breakdown

I feel like if i dont try to truly understand that it’ll come to hit me later

[errant portal]

i can relate to that

[modern prawn]

its like if i dont understand why that formula works im probably going to do a lot of works to derive it

[untold thunder]

Well when you do comp math for long enough and you learn something, you start to get ahead

[modern prawn]

Right now im really stressed about work after this is all over, I can probably withstand work stress a lot better

I’ll AHVE to spend a lot of time on weekends doing my aops homework lol, sacrificing my halloween month happiness. But in the end i know it’ll pay off and thats my motivation

[untold thunder]

Just remember: when you're in class, put in the effort then so you can relax about you aops homework later

[modern prawn]

I also have a big science test coming. Idk how im gonna survive it lol

[untold thunder]

If you peform well in actually school, you'll have higher self-esteem and time going into your aops homework

[modern prawn]

Its a ton of aops homework, and it hurts my brain. The homework is hard for me

But thats how I’ll learn. So i just push through

[untold thunder]

yeah

[modern prawn]

Today i hav a lot of aops homework to catch up on, prob AHVE to spend 3 hours

Honestly i look forward to having the classes. The classes itself are interesting

But the homework is overwhelming, its tough for me to do

[untold thunder]

Sometimes it's best not to think of work as something to just push through and get over with rather you should try your best to enjoy it; if you don't, you will lack consistency.

Also take breaks

That's very important

Every 30mins to an hour

[modern prawn]

Yeah, before these classes i study math for fun not for learning really, i always viewed math as something fun

[untold thunder]

Take a 5-10 min break

Great

But again, if you aren't already take periodic breaks because it helps you stay consistent

[modern prawn]

I’m happy this much aops homework will only be for a month. After that there will only be a little every day. If this continued for like 2-3 months i would probably lose my math passion lol

[untold thunder]

yikes

[modern prawn]

I wish schools were good at teaching math bruh

I get they dont teach comp math but still

[untold thunder]

If they started making students critical think too early they'd all fail

[modern prawn]

Very simple critical thinking problems how about that

[untold thunder]

Of course they would eventually adapt but at the start it would be a disaster

[untold thunder]

I had some last year in my geo class

But usually it doesn

't start until cacl

[modern prawn]

I’ve had them in my school for a while. But they aint really critical thinking. Its more like slightly harder problems

[glad zinc]

what on earth is a magnet school

[modern prawn]

I was thinking that lol

Idk what a magnet school is

[untold thunder]

It's just a school with harder classes

Mine is directed towards stem stuff

[ornate blade]

they're called that cause they accept out of zone enrolments

[glad zinc]

yeah idk what that is either

[ornate blade]

and also, they tend to attract those students cause they offer a specialty

STEM a lot of the time

[untold thunder]

My math homework is 7 pages long 💀

[ornate blade]

but there are definitely performing arts magnet schools

[glad zinc]

tough

[modern prawn]

Damn in school im algebra 1 and i only get like 2 pages

[untold thunder]

It's not that bad when you like math tho

[modern prawn]

Usually takes me around 20 mins

[glad zinc]

Not necessarily, a lot of it is just tedious for me

[untold thunder]

😦

[ornate blade]

you will miss the days when your homework is "complete the square" and "match the graph to the options"

trust me

[untold thunder]

If you don't like math, face my wrath

[modern prawn]

Its not their fault. Its the school’s fault

[untold thunder]

No.

If you don't like math, I'll be in your path

[ornate blade]

this is true a depressing amount of the time

if only schools taught better

[modern prawn]

Yeah but 95% of math students are twigs for obvious reasons

[ornate blade]

the whole reason why you can learn so much maths online

is cause grade school maths education sucks ass

[glad zinc]

Its not that I dont like math, doing the same problem with different numbers 10 times isnt interesting

[ornate blade]

so there's a demand for resources to be made

[glad zinc]

thankfully my teacher makes it as interesting as possible

[ornate blade]

agreed the way it's taught sucks

[modern prawn]

My teacher said school math education is a lot better then coaching and online because the people online just want money/ dont care if you learn or not

[ornate blade]

discovering the formula and convincing yourself is the fun bit

[glad zinc]

always finds a way to stump me

[modern prawn]

I dont really agree

[ornate blade]

oh yeah that's a whole other issue

[modern prawn]

Its kinda true

[ornate blade]

charter schools and deregulated education

[modern prawn]

but school math education sucks

[ornate blade]

make the quality of teaching worse

public schools don't have resources so they can't compete

[modern prawn]

Afterschool programs and coaching want you money. Is that true?. Yes

But that doesn’t mean they don’t offer quality teaching

[glad zinc]

Honestly for me it doesn't that much, sometimes as I said the homework is tedious but my teachers do manage to make it really interesting in class

[ornate blade]

yeah I mean some tutors are really good and really experienced

[modern prawn]

They’re whole basis is off teaching math. They specialize in it. Why would they not be good at teaching math?

[ornate blade]

but there shouldn't be as many tutors as right now

especially those that promise parents their child can leap ahead of the competition

[modern prawn]

Teacher went on a 5 min rant about how just because we take afterschool classes and coaching doesnt mean we will succeed in school because school math teaching is much more detailed, coaching and afterschool programs just want ur money and make it easy on purpose so you stay or something

[ornate blade]

a lot of tutors are university students

you can't really say they exactly specialise in maths

[glad zinc]

why not just use free services like khan or yt

[modern prawn]

Yeah but afterschool math programs

[ornate blade]

oh wait I see what you mean by they

[glad zinc]

or sail the high seas 🏴‍☠️ and get some quality textbooks

[modern prawn]

School math teaching is better than khan. Khan is overrated for teaching math above pre-alg imo

[ornate blade]

yeah if you organise an afterschool maths program you're usually pretty experienced with pedagogy and stuff

[modern prawn]

I used khan to study a lot. But on its own, it cant serve as a math education

[ornate blade]

depends on how professional it is
high schoolers could organise one and many do for ECs

[modern prawn]

It simply doesn’t offer the critical thinking, and the courses are not as detailed.

[untold thunder]

It can, but it doesn't go into sufficient detail

[ornate blade]

but I think you mean those teachers or former teachers who do that

in which case, yes, they are a treasure trove of knowledge and experience

[modern prawn]

If you self-taught geometry with khan you would be missing a lot

[ornate blade]

yeah Khan only does coordinate geometry most of the time

if you want to learn Euclidean geometry.... rip

[untold thunder]

I did, but I didn't miss that much

Not much circle theorems

[modern prawn]

Circle thereom hurt my brain

[glad zinc]

what's geometry?

[ornate blade]

agreed but the situation for a lot of students is that online/KA is their best option

cause school sucks so much

[untold thunder]

💀

[untold thunder]

search

[modern prawn]

Idk what my math teacher was talking about. School math is definitely less detailed than afterschool programs

[ornate blade]

concrete topology

[untold thunder]

study of shapes and figures

[glad zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[ornate blade]

exactly like it helps if everyone in the room has interest in maths

[modern prawn]

Like bruh. Just because they are making money from you doesn’t mean they’re making it easy on purpose or something

[ornate blade]

also smaller class sizes

[untold thunder]

🤓

[glad zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-funny-funny-cat-funny-cat-staring-gif-5991461082324993255

[modern prawn]

A lot of afterschool programs just teach the standards from another country but in the US

and their standards are a lot higher than the US

[untold thunder]

Only math people understand what it truly means to be sigma

[modern prawn]

Sure

[glad zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/bobbycord-meme-esmbot-funny-spiderman-gif-24082586

[untold thunder]

Lock in

If you're not doing math while writing a message you should leave this server immediately.

[modern prawn]

I remember when i was trying to sleep

[untold thunder]

you were trying to do math

[modern prawn]

no

I had a very bad dream it was like i was going crazy about math not in a bad way

there was something i was really confused about

it was like 1 + 1 could be reversed or whatever to equal a few billion

[glad zinc]

dreaming about math is some crazy stuff

[modern prawn]

It obviously doesnt make sense now but i remember how stressed i was lol

I felt like i was going crazy

[untold thunder]

😦

[modern prawn]

idk how

idk what i was thinking

but it was like the world of math could be flipped over

[untold thunder]

Well you should try lucid dreaming about your homework while you're sleeping so that you can be efficient

[modern prawn]

to this new realm of different numbers where 1 + 1 could be like anything

idk

[glad zinc]

aphantasia : (

[ornate blade]

p-adic numbers moment

[untold thunder]

who came up with that goofy ahh name

[jolly solstice]

p-adic absolute value of a sum of integers is always bounded above thankfully

[ornate blade]

oh yeah the triangle inequality holds

[jolly solstice]

yeah that's true too, but what I'm referring to is the fact that it's nonarchimedean

[ornate blade]

ah okay I see

[ornate blade]

yeah it just didn't click what non-Archmedian meant, thanks

[jolly solstice]

yeah, the two things are pretty closely related

[high goblet]

i just didn't do a level maths hwk lol

they never checked it so i mean i was good enough anyway lol

not doing the same question with very slightly different numbers

[cerulean ibex]

stop advertising ur own server

get permission from the mods if u want to

[radiant jasper]

xonks

[modern prawn]

The previously very hard problems are becoming easier and easier for me. I’m learning! This feels amazing

[vernal knot]

yea i got into one but i didnt go

[pallid tundra]

no.

[radiant jasper]

fr

[modern prawn]

casperoso we were testing lol

[acoustic nova]

why are u sending that

it’s a very small server anyways

[cerulean ibex]

it's also against the rules so lord pls stop

i promise nobody will want to join it if it's advertised like this

[modern prawn]

ok

[lament flume]

What the hell is AoPS

[pallid tundra]

"art of problem solving", math contest forums

[ornate blade]

imagine doing comp maths without ever hearing of AoPS

[ornate blade]

Year 12 in the British system

which is Year 11 in Australia

confusing

[high goblet]

ah k ty

i see ur already in MODS

if u don't mind me asking which country r u trying to represent?

bcus if ur country's somewhat competitive then it's really unlikely for someone to get into IMO if they haven't already done olympiad stuff

so like i'd suggest not obsessing over getting into IMO and just trying to enjoy the process as much as possible

like u'll have new challenges when u get into uni

[high goblet]

cus it's like the less u stress abt it, the more likely u'll get in lol

also won't u get another year if ur 11th grade?

anyway do problems

you've gotta have a problem solving background before you can start learning content

the trap to fall into is trying to cover all possible content i.e. lifting the exponent & zsigmondy, projective geo, overkill graph theory thms etc.

before being able to actually solve basic problems consistently

so basically yeah u just have to start solving problems

idk what round 1 for u looks like, but basically if it's like beginners level then there's no point learning a bunch of cool stuff if u can't apply it

https://people.bath.ac.uk/masgcs/advice.html

[high goblet]

start by being able to solve like the basic problems consistently before trying to learn more advanced theory

(assuming u know stuff like pigeonhole principle etc.)

[royal estuary]

Guys

I need help

Should I start learning about generating functions for combinatorics

[dusk tendon]

whats ur level right now?

[royal estuary]

Rmo level

Combinatorics I can handle

[dusk tendon]

yeah if ur olympiad level you should learn it

[royal estuary]

I wanted to know

If it is more effective or not

Instead of traditional methods

[dusk tendon]

wdym

[royal estuary]

Likd

Does it make everything easier

[dusk tendon]

yeah it makes casework and things like that easier

[royal estuary]

Oh ok

That's what I wanted to know

Ty

[soft vigil]

there already is one in existence

[glad zinc]

btw are your dms open, wanted to ask a question or two about cambridge

[high goblet]

yeah

ok doesn't look too competitive so u might have a chance

[high goblet]

what's RMO?

[high goblet]

as in like you shouldn't really think of it as "you have method X and method Y, and method Y is strictly better than method X"

[royal estuary]

It's like usamo

In india

[high goblet]

think more as "currently i only have tool X, if i learn how to use tool Y then i can use tool X and tool Y for problems"

[high goblet]

ah k

roughly what difficulty?

[royal estuary]

Uhh

Not like usamo

[fast coral]

no

much lowee

[royal estuary]

Between aime

And usamo

[fast coral]

grind

[royal estuary]

That's how I could describe

[high goblet]

unfortunately i am not a yankee so this comparison makes no sense to me lol

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[royal estuary]

Huh

[high goblet]

oh ok fine

[high goblet]

yeah it'll be valuable just learning what it is

sometimes generating functions are quite useful for particular problems

[royal estuary]

Hnm Ic

[high goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOXCLR3Wric this video in particular is quite good at highlighting why generating functions can be so useful

[royal estuary]

I have seen this

[high goblet]

cus you treat it as a polynomial, plug stuff in and it tells u stuff about our original problem

[royal estuary]

But like I wanna know

How do u make one

For a particular situation

[high goblet]

anyway u mentioned that ur starting off ur maths oly journey?

for that i'd recommend to first get comfortable solving like easy problems

cus as i mentioned above, there's no point learning fancy tools if u can't use them

just grind out like easy-ish oly problems and then step it up from there

[high goblet]

there's probably some resource on generating functions somewhere

https://imomath.com/index.cgi?page=generatingFunctions

imomath is generally good so that's probably fine? haven't actually used it myself tho

[royal estuary]

K

Thanks

[high goblet]

nw

[royal estuary]

For all real numbers a,b,c⩾0
such that a+b+c=1
, prove that 2⩽(1−a^2)^2+(1−b^2)^2+(1−c^2)^2⩽(1+a)(1+b)(1+c)
and determine when equality occurs for each of the two inequalities.

Any idea

Been stuck for a hour

[soft vigil]

hmm

i see the squares so it looks a bit like cuachy

[royal estuary]

Hnm

I tried

Didn't work

Maybe took the wrong terms

[high goblet]

a really really dumb solution is you can homogenise ur inequality with a+b+c=1

then expand and ur done by muirhead/AM-GM

[royal estuary]

After expanding its turning into a degree four equation

And if I try writing in terms of a+b+c

There are other unwanted terms

[high goblet]

yes

cancel everything out and ur left with something nice

[royal estuary]

Lemme try

[high goblet]

as in show 2(a+b+c)^4 <= ((a+b+c)^2 - a^2)^2 + etc.

it's a really dumb sol but it does work

[royal estuary]

Hnmm

K

[royal estuary]

What about the equality part tho ?

[high goblet]

expand everything first then solve lol

[royal estuary]

Alr

[deft wraith]

Could I have a hint for this problem?

[high goblet]

try writing m = kn

[radiant jasper]

Is there a book which covers everything required in STEP?

With STEP as it's focus. And if one can do STEP one must also be able to do MAT no?

[deft wraith]

There is a book by Steven Siklos but it's more like a problem book

You can find the STEP specification online, for the pure content STEP II is roughly A2 Maths and AS FM, for STEP III it's A2 Maths and FM with a few extra things i.e AM-GM

[glad zinc]

https://maths.org/step/

[deft wraith]

For stats and mechanics you may have to pick and choose certain topics from FM1/2 and FS1/2 (Edexcel)

[radiant jasper]

Have it, but I was asking for a proper book.

[glad zinc]

You sure? I remember STEP 3 being most if not all FM

[deft wraith]

For your second question probably, but not necessarily, the style and timing is slightly different. The problem solving skills and intuition helps a lot

[glad zinc]

Don't think one exists

[deft wraith]

That is what I said

[glad zinc]

You said A2 maths, doesn't that mean y2 normal maths, or am I misinterpreting?

[deft wraith]

Yes A2 Maths and FM

might've been a bit unclear

[high goblet]

https://discord.gg/Ga8rbzcW

step discord server is probably more suitable for step questions

[deft wraith]

it's really just a level content i think the main part is problem solving/ doing questions which there are loads of

[deft wraith]

thanks 👍

[high goblet]

basically just A level, so if u know a level stuff u'll be fine

the problems are a bit boring tho, a lot of algebra bashing

but just do problems and u'll do well

[high goblet]

MAT is more fun imo

[radiant jasper]

Is a year enough? Like if I do have a brain.

[radiant jasper]

It's easier no?

[deft wraith]

ly did you only do pure questions on step

[high goblet]

ig so?

[high goblet]

some stats occasionally

cus the stats is sometimes like trivial

[deft wraith]

i've heard that

did you learn any fs1 for that then

[high goblet]

no

i was good enough anyway so i didn't learn any additional content

but some ppl have recommended learning further stats cus the stats is normally like quite easy

[high goblet]

yeah i mean just grind out problems

if u studied a levels then u'll know all the content, so just grind

[radiant jasper]

In which month is it held

[high goblet]

the main thing with STEP is just speed

[high goblet]

june? i think?

maybe july?

[deft wraith]

same as a level so june

[radiant jasper]

Like I'll be mid 12th grade next June.

Being an international sucks.

@high goblet @deft wraith Thanks y'all

[high goblet]

nw!

[deft wraith]

good luck

[radiant jasper]

So if I'm in 11th grade i won't appear next year but next next year?

[deft wraith]

what do you mean? i'm guessing 11th is your penultimate year of high school?

[radiant jasper]

Yes

I mean I'll have to si for the exam in 2026?

sit*

[soft vigil]

i cant advertise the server here

[winter sable]

i hope y'all remember me , good night guys and plis do maths

[radiant jasper]

I typed math and this came up.

[west abyss]

u saudi?

[radiant jasper]

No lol

[radiant jasper]

Perso-arabic script is used by almost everyone in the middle east and central Asia.

[west abyss]

no shit bro its just im in saudi rn and was gon list math comps if u needed

[radiant jasper]

Thanks for your intentions.

[west abyss]

where u going for uni?

[radiant jasper]

Uk

[maiden beacon]

@flint grove give one integral

[idle fjord]

Any math helpers? pls dm me

[soft vigil]

no

dont give the 7th grader an integral

its too spooky

[modest marten]

[ornate blade]

what is $\int_{-2}^2 \sqrt{4 - x^2} \ dx$

[gilded halo]

south's secret twin brother

[ornate blade]

this can be done without any knowledge of calculus

you want to find the area under the curve

is the only thing you need to know

[boreal sky]

Why the set of {x in R | g(x-a)=0} is contained in null set A U B?

[high goblet]

oh g(x-a) = g(x) - g(a)

so x is in either A or B depending on if a was in A or B

[mental elbow]

yo

does anyone have any tips/ advice for me regarding practice for the AMC 10

[royal estuary]

Grind problems

[mental elbow]

first time ever participating in a math competition

[mental elbow]

I have been, but the thing is the difficult problems I can’t solve I can understand after seeing the solution, but it is much harder to do it myself. Perhaps for some questions I might be able to, however I certainly won’t be able to do them in the allocated time constraints.

[royal estuary]

Umm

The solution is just observe the approach of other people

Or the solution

And then think of other alternate ways yourself

[mental elbow]

okay thanks