#competition-math

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acoustic nova
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u have a system of three linear equations in three variables so u will get a unique solution (easy to see, which is all u need, u don’t have to find it in terms of anything). I don’t know why this was starred challenge

soft vigil
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It gets worse lol

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Orz is child’s play compared to every thing else: admits, Xooks, iltg, 1434, etc

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It’s pretty bad

reef condor
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Basically, an nth degree polynomial has its coefficients entirely determined by its values at n+1 distinct inputs

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And there’s a relatively clean way to interpolate a polynomial which passes through those points which you can search up

reef condor
reef condor
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_ook

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?

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If p(x) = ax^2 + bx + c

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You have h=a+b+c, j =4a+2b+c, i=9a+3b+c

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A,b,c solely determined by h,i,j

reef condor
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I mean yeah

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Yeah…

zinc venture
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Can someone solve 1^x=2 (answer is complex)

gritty dawn
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suppose you have two n -degree polynomials P and Q agreeing on n+1 points

then P-Q has n+1 roots but has degree max n. thus P-Q=0

vital heart
steel onyx
novel karma
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ok

lapis kayak
gilded haloBOT
lapis kayak
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in general, for $z \neq 0$, we define that: $log_e(z) := ln|z| + iArg(z) + 2\pi in$ for any integer n, and any argument between -pi (not included) and pi (included) to find for $log_1(z)$ just use the fact that $log_a(b) = \frac{log_c(b)}{log_c(a)}$

gilded haloBOT
lapis kayak
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@zinc venture

lapis kayak
soft vigil
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r u sure this is comp math

lapis kayak
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oh

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mb i didnt see the channel

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sorryyyy

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actually i also wanted to ask if anyone knows if any math olympiad entrance exams of the 2023/2024 period have been released yet (with solutions but not necessarily),

lapis kayak
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umm im not sure it works the same everywhere but in switzerland there is a 35 question logical exam (based more on intuition rather than math) that acts as an "entrance" exam for the SMO team, theres a cutoff in this first exam and those who make it go to SMO, and then there are more exams (i think 2 or 3) and after all of them only the 6 who remain go to IMO

soft vigil
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you can prob find USA tst on there

lapis kayak
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ill go check! thanks :)

soft vigil
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np

radiant jasper
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Waffler

radiant jasper
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We all know your true motive to talking outside of discussy

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Bubo..

willow anvil
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P-Q is 0 at the points it agrees on. if a polynomial has more roots than its degree, its identically 0

gilded haloBOT
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GammaRadio

nocturne valley
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And solve for u first

jolly solstice
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what's the base of the log, e?

nocturne valley
jolly solstice
nocturne valley
jolly solstice
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well let's just say it's base b for now, then I'd substitute a=b^x and it becomes ceil(2x)=ceil(3x)

radiant jasper
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i do not know how to proceed from here

nocturne valley
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Totally not bs

radiant jasper
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yes but there are other restrictions that i cannot find

ornate blade
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from Desmos the answer is $a \in (10^{-2/3}, 10^{-1/2}] \cup (10^{-1/3}, 10^{1/3}] \cup (10^{1/2}, 10^{2/3}]$

gilded haloBOT
ornate blade
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hope this gives you some insight

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even though I still don't know how to approach it completely

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the main thing is to prove that both ceils must be equal to -1, 1, 2

nocturne valley
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Desmos can't draw all the solutions so they only draw a few

ornate blade
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when I plotted the equality I knew that didn't look right

nocturne valley
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Oke

prisma portal
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Holy shit guys
Planning my studies is difficult

little harness
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Hi can I have some resources to self study comp math

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i am currently preparing for the COMC

radiant jasper
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Pathfinder jr? Yea

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For rmo, no

zinc venture
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The whole point of my question was to see if someone would work it out to the people saying just take the log its not that simple as logc(2)/logc(1)=x because that would result in a division by zero the way you would (simplified) is you set c=e(use ln) the you turn one polar so it would be ln(2)/ln(e^2πi+2πm)(for m is a negative or positive natural number) then cancel the ln and e so you get ln(2)/2πi+2πm then you multiply the top and bottom by -i to get (so it looks better i set m to 0)x= i -ln(2)/2π then using the power log rule you rewrite it as x =i ln(0.5)/2π then if you plug that in you get x=-0.1103178i

jolly solstice
zinc venture
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Fair but I like still try to get an answer to question like that and in this case (at least the way i did it) if you plug my answer in you do get 2 well very close to it its like 2.0000000002 but that could just be human error

jolly solstice
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in a way this sort of boils down to definitions, but I would say 1^i = 1, I'm guessing you'd argue that 1^i = e^{-2pi} or something?

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or like is it somehow multivalued as 1^i = e^{-n2pi}

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main reason is if 1^i = 1 then 1^{a+bi} = 1^a * (1^i)^b = 1 for all complex numbers for me

zinc venture
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I would have to work out 1^i first but it doesn't all ways have to be 1

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Every one was told in school that 1 to the power of anything is just 1 but that really only true for real numbers

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most people I meet people do see imaginary number as real numbers and the doesn't help but i the imaginary unit was a missing piece of math it gives answer to question once thought impossible.

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History has a funny way of repeating it's self people a long time saw negative numbers the same way saying there not "real" if you got a negative number as an answer you would just turn it positive like people would say the answer for x+x = x-1 was undefined but now we say x=-1 it took a long time for everyone to add negative s to the number line and to even use them in every day life and I think i is just the same it is recognized as the squareroot of negative one but still it not on the commonly used number instead casted aside to the complex planing and given the name imaginary

dense gale
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every mathematician since the like 19th century accepts and uses complex numbers

zinc venture
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Yes but not every person does am not talking about mathematicians am talking about the average person they most of the the time may learn about it but still dont of them as real numbers

dense gale
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the average person probably doesnt know anything about math at all

zinc venture
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Fair

dense gale
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and they dont need complex numbers anyway

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they dont have the same daily applications that real numbers have

zinc venture
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Yeah but there still cool and that what people thought about negative numbers to

jolly solstice
zinc venture
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You can use a Formula to raise a number to a imaginary power x^a+bi = x^a(cos(bln(x))+isin(bln(x))

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And when you put your number in the natural log make them polar

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If you want i could work it myself

jolly solstice
soft vigil
jolly solstice
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I assume he meant x^(a+bi) on the left if that's what you're referring to

reef condor
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Most ppl don’t even need real numbers

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Just calculator for everything

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But the technology obviously requires complex number s

placid tapir
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There are no real life applications where you go like "ah that's a+ib"

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It is used for creating many things

burnt trail
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how can I get started in oly math from the groundup?

placid tapir
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Practice questions

burnt trail
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which ones

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can u send me a link

placid tapir
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Whatever your Olympiad covers

burnt trail
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how do I find those

placid tapir
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Huh?

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You don't know what you're gonna write?

slender saddle
placid tapir
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It is useful!

jolly solstice
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I like using them to solve 2D geometry or physics problems where scaling or rotating can be involved in the solution, since it's a little less cumbersome than matrices to be able to freely divide and solve

placid tapir
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Matrices and determinants lol

swift imp
burnt trail
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peru wbu

radiant jasper
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do you guys know about IOQM ??

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if yes , provide some resources for it 🙏

quasi condor
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Heeyy, is anyone here who studies physics ?

quiet token
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No

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I hate physics

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It ruined mylife

hushed charm
echo hare
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Physics is basically almost as bad as engineering in the eyes of a mathematician. Oh the rule breaking.

mint cove
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(I’m in physics, studying to be an engineer)

reef condor
peak kestrel
hushed charm
lilac citrus
mint cove
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Physics discussion/questions belong there imo

atomic shore
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Guys anyone has a solid book for math olympiads

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PDFs

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I’m looking for a source for number theory mainly

atomic shore
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I’ve skimmed through this

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Do you have one which is more problem based

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For practice

radiant jasper
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That’s a lot

hushed charm
# radiant jasper Oh wow $55

certainly it is, but a lot of people like this one, i am reading introduction to algebra and it is a pretty good book

hushed charm
hushed charm
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( a shuttle number is a number that : the first digit is greater than the second. The second digit is less that the third digit. The third digit is greater than the fourty. The fourty digit is less than the fifty digit... )

How many 7-digit numbers formed by the digits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are shuttle numbers? For example, 4253617 is one of these numbers. But 5372146 is not (2 is greater than 1 and 1 is less than 4) and 2163457 is not either (4 is less than 5).

ivory ember
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upstroke -> increase in digit (ex. digit 3 is greater than digit 2)

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downstroke -> decrease in digit (ex. digit 2 is less than digit 1)

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Based on this, what numbers must be "at the bottom" (digits 2, 4, 6)? What about "at the top" (digits 1, 3, 5, 7)?

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Further hint: ||Place 1. Can you place 2 in the top row?||

shy oar
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i think it's important to note that the numbers themselves don't really matter but only their relation to each other. So there are just as many 5-digit shuffle number with digits 1,3,4,5,7 as digits 1,2,3,4,5. You can get a nice recursion from this

zinc venture
proper sundial
proper sundial
jolly solstice
# zinc venture This is why i said turn 1 polar so e^i2π so ln(1)= i2π that more like a bypass s...

part of the problem though is if you turn 1 into $e^{i 2\pi n}$ for some integer n, then now when you solve $1^x=2$ you have $x = \frac{\ln 2}{i 2\pi n}$ - but now your solution depends on which version of 1 you picked. To be explicit, for any integer m you can write $1=e^{i 2\pi m}$ and now raising to the power with one of your solutions $x$ which depends on $n$ gets us $1^x = (e^{i 2\pi m})^\frac{\ln 2}{i 2\pi m} = 2^{m/n}$ which means your solution requires you to represent 1 a special way and the solution a special way, because you get infinitely many wrong answers when they don't match up.

gilded haloBOT
jolly solstice
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let me phrase it a bit backwards, let's say I tell you -i0.0022 is approximately a solution to 1^x=2 how do you check?

reef condor
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Also you can probably find pdfs of aops books online if cost is really an issue… ofc I do not endorse this

wary magnet
south socket
reef condor
south socket
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lol

hazy mirage
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could anyone answer this?

south socket
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$z=1+i(2-\sqrt{3})$

gilded haloBOT
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physicular

south socket
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i dont understand the question

hazy mirage
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its a special complex

ornate blade
mint cove
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$z = 1 + 2 \cdot i - \sqrt{3 \cdot i}$

gilded haloBOT
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Airhead

ornate blade
mint cove
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Therefore z has been “solved for”

vivid ingot
near hill
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It's one of the two only points in the complex plane that makes an equilateral triangle with 2i and 2+2i.
That's ... um ... at least somewhat special? A little? If you squint?

zinc venture
zinc venture
# zinc venture Simple you solve 1^x=-i0.0022 then if you get the same answers as 1^x=2 then i0....

But a problem that I do see with this is that if there a infinite number of answer. Graphing a log function that takes any number(but zero) will have infinite towers of dots on the negative side and since there is a rule of a function saying one input must have one output that would make the log function a multifunction(a function with more then one output for a given input)(when I say "log function" I mean $f(x)= \log_{10}(x)$ )

gilded haloBOT
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Coolkid7

wary magnet
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I need help on a problem.
The set of ordered triples {A, B, C} is the solution for the alpha numeric AA+BB=CC Where A, B, and C are distinct natural numbers. How many distinct ordered triples are in the solution set?

ocean narwhal
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cuz for the latter there are infinitely many solutions i guess? as you can write the equation as

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10 A + A + 10B + B = 10 C+ C
11A + 11B = 11C
A+B = C which obv has infinitely many solutions

radiant jasper
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to be fair, there is the restriction that A, B and C must have the same amount of digits

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which is not terribly hard to fulfil and still allowed infinitely many solutions

wary magnet
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My way of thinking: you can choose any combination of 11, 22, 33, 44, 55 for AA and BB and also you can have 11+77, 11+66, 11+88, 22+66, 22+77, 33+66 that satisfies CC.

therefore, i did, 5P2 (because they can be rearranged and still be distinct) to choose between 11, 22, 33, 44, 55 which is 20

and then there are 6 more possible combinations but multiple by 2 because AA and BB can be rearranged which gets 12

add the ways to get 20+12=32 triples

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The book says its a Mathcounts question so does anybody know which year it is so i can read the official solution?

reef condor
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Or something close to it

slender saddle
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You didn’t provide enough information when you were asking the question

wary magnet
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i didnt make the questions. the people who make mc competetion questions do

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the book answer is 32 triples

wary magnet
wary magnet
limpid shore
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Alphanumeric means it's in the alphabet or it's a digit

radiant jasper
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I haven't made aime yet either

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But I'm trying to

radiant jasper
ocean narwhal
radiant jasper
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Yeah unless otherwise specified they are typically one digit numbers

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I haven't seen other problems where represent two digit numbers anyway

ocean narwhal
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idk every exam that ive ever been to just said they are digits instead of alphanumeric but yea

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alphanumeric kinda suggests using something other than base 10 anyways

radiant jasper
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True

hallow finch
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hello everyone, Im attempting to enter the Math olympiad for the first time, does anyone have any reccomendations as to how to begin training?

ornate blade
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bruhhhhh just rationalise

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what would you do instead?

rich cradle
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||u=1/x is a root of cu^2+bu+a=0||

rich cradle
ornate blade
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that's smart

main crown
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this channel reminds me of why i quit comp math modCheck

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Generally because i’m too stupid 💀

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  • the teacher was messy and sketchy
rich cradle
main crown
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he would do things like change grades after they were due

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weird stuff

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he played favorites so he would determine if “you did good enough” for him to change it

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yeah so at that point i just realized it’s ok to enjoy math, and be good at it without being in comp math

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High school yeah.

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I was invited to my highschool math team, joined it because it was prestigious then dropped out because the teacher was annoying.

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Yeah everyone was shocked because nobody ever dropped out after getting invited

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now i’m labeled in the math team discord server as “dropout”

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🤓🤓

reef condor
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Bro got invited

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Orz

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Joining the math team is mostly for fun since you get to attend more tournaments tbh

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But it’s not helpful if ur tryna get good at comp math

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Vs self studying

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If ur just trying to make aime then review some amc questions

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And try to get the first 15

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But if there’s problems in the 10-15 range ur stuck on, then don’t be afraid of going into the 16-20 range since there’s sometimes a problem that’s way easier than it seems

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For problems in the 1-10 range though, you should just do all of them

main crown
reef condor
main crown
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i’m not sure what that means

reef condor
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Rbo Orz isn’t even that bad
But ok

reef condor
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But tbh that sounds like a bad idea for a math team to make it invite only

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Just make a “varsity” team with serious ppl and a “JV” team with not so serious ppl or smth

cyan hollow
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Those who are preparing for isi/cmi ,2025 DM me.

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I need competition

main crown
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i’m not risking my school career for comp math

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oh and yeah the comp math counted as a class

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so it’s not even really extracurricular

wary magnet
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sketchy

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is that in number theory book?

novel karma
ocean narwhal
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💀 i mean if you need 4 digit numbers then yea you're gonna have to deal with computing

wary magnet
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a number times 51 or 501:
exg: 51*64
=3264
line up half the number first and then the number same thing works for a number times 501

main crown
main crown
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soooooo

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some conclusions can be drawn

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(it was legit a cult)

main crown
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they did

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legit called “math 1”

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-“math 4”

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i have like

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4 aops books

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that i dont use

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i should probably read them

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got it for free because once again the teacher was rich and was good friends with the owner

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richard smth

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the team has won a lot

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like hella titles

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i think they have like 20 smth national titles so it’s working. It’s just sketchy

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actually i can’t send that

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i would b doxxing myself

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it was a picture of the dude

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who taught it

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and it said the school

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and if you reversed google searched it you could see the exact city i live in 💀

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i think you could find it

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anywhooo

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moral of the story it’s sketchy

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and don’t trust a rich dude with your school career

main crown
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he plays favorites and does things like change people’s schedules to look better.fir example, if someone is taking one of his classes at an alg 2 level, he would put AP precalc there instead

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which is just cheap. i wanna graduate and do well off of merit not because a rich dude payed people to let me in

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i’d be more inclined to do it if it wasn’t actually a class i had to take in place of math classes

cyan phoenix
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All are free online

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And they trash anyway

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They're insanely overpriced too

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Just use the pdf online if u really want trash books

hushed charm
main crown
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Yes, but he cares so much about winning that he takes up normal math classes with comp math classes

willow anvil
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yeah aops books are very overrated

acoustic nova
wary magnet
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how do you find the number of odd multiples of a number?

cyan phoenix
cyan phoenix
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Be more specific

wary magnet
slender saddle
wary magnet
wary magnet
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how do you get the pdf online

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the pdf and the textbook are not the same

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unless someone made pdfs of the textbooks illegally (which there are) but im not considering using

acoustic nova
reef condor
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Dyk mathluis

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Mathcounts,a competition for middle schoolers

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In USA

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He is brain rotted (like me) so thats probably better for you

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Less braineotted than me though

shadow dirge
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How did u improved your geometry? Im struggling with this issue

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Oh🗿

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Where r u from?

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I see

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What kinds of math competition happens there?

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Ok

ornate blade
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eu não sou brasileiro, mais que eu sei da examinação de ENEM

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só 3% pode aprobar

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oh you just say passar in Portuguese instead, that's such a cheat

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other Brazilians have said there are more specialised exams for maths and science,

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and that the main problem with the ENEM is just the reading and the fricking eye-strain

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when you have to read a whole paragraph or more for each question, also like they test everything

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muito obrigado

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I don't actually know Portuguese, I'm just converting it from Spanish

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woah, Icelandic?

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wdym you don't really speak it

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interesting

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my real analysis prof is actually from Iceland

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I can still remember what I said, he was quite touched

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takk fyrir að kenna mér

acoustic nova
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I disagree. what books are better then? I think the AoPS books are great

radiant jasper
willow anvil
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Overpriced, too slow, you can learn the same stuff and more by just doing mocks

cyan phoenix
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Not only do many aops books fail to cover fundamentals, (ie. intro to number theory, etc.) it is also reported that they have much more added depth and rigor, and fail to teach students with no general understanding. They are overpriced and meant for the rich kids who already have a decent knowledge of the topic. If you are serious about improving at competition math, I would recommend non-stop grinding AMC 8/10/12 practice tests (depends on level) because no book can help you prepare for tests better than actual past tests/practice tests with all of the same types of problems. (I used that strat to get into AIME) Also, that doesn't mean just do one practice test and move on. It means often you will have to do hundreds before complete mastery. If you are still clinging to the idea of a textbook, there are infinitely many options to choose from. I can only say so much to change your mind from buying an aops textbook, and if you would like to, go for it. I can only share my opinion.

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I wasn't even on

radiant jasper
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I dunno if I'm allowed to post links but never ever pay for those academic books

soft vigil
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<@&268886789983436800> look up

blazing osprey
gusty bolt
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How do I make this into a formula without summation notation

cyan phoenix
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Lofi girl type shi

gusty bolt
turbid brook
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and the classes are also pretty alright

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and the books arent that expensive...

cyan phoenix
cyan phoenix
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@fair bronze you better not type another fkin paragraph

turbid brook
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like

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literally whats a better one

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well beast academt

cyan phoenix
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I told you not to

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I'm not reading that whole damn essay

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Also I never argued with ur points I just made my own

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We have conflicting viewpoints

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If u look carefully

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I didn't reply to any message

willow anvil
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The point is that the content isn’t worth the cost. Sure, the content is alright but it’s not hard to glean the same information from elsewhere for less time and money

cyan phoenix
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I told you before

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It's general knowledge

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Now just sit there and stop debating I'm too lazy

radiant jasper
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What grade are all of you in? Also, have you had any prior experience in olympiads? Just curious

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(if you are in grade school at all)

hushed charm
willow anvil
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i just did mocks and was active on aops

radiant jasper
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I mean they're not bad but like AMC tests are better

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You kind of already need to know the content to do AoPS books

willow anvil
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i had volume 1 and volume 2 but i got bored of them quickly so i did mocks, by the time i had the motivation to do them i already learned all of the content in it

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for computational thats enough

hushed charm
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That is interesting, and about contents that you didn't know, where you used to search

willow anvil
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if i was doing a problem that i didnt know how to do i would read the solution

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then if there was some theorem used i didnt knwo i would research it

radiant jasper
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and there was a discussion channel for the problems are well

hushed charm
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gotcha

willow anvil
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Why not?

main crown
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my dream

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def got into a good school too

willow anvil
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You can read the solutions and learn

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That’s how I learnt most of the theory for computational

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well yeah

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im talking about for amcs and stuff

radiant jasper
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sorry i'm in middle school

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people are saying stuff like that all the time

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?

main crown
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how did you get so smart

radiant jasper
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~~i literally hear stuff like skibidi and sigma and orz 24/7😭 ~~

main crown
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maybe ill just be ok with being lazy

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💀

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whyyy

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im taking like

radiant jasper
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what is this

main crown
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5 ap classes

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i have no time

radiant jasper
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also why are you named after that glitch girl from wreck it ralph

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ah

main crown
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rbf is real

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yeah ive recently been stressed about making sure i get into good universities when im older.

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but a lot of people have told me it doesnt matter as much as some people make it out to be

main crown
radiant jasper
willow anvil
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yeah same, computational is mostly just drilling problems

main crown
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"resting bitch face"

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IDK i feel like its not enough of a diffrence. Going to MIT wont be the diffrence between me working at nasa or working at mcdonalds

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ugh

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now i feel even more preassure lol

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i have a 4.8 weighted gpa if that helps

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just something in me feels like i need national titles to get into a good uni

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max is 4.0

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max weighted is 5.0

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which means you would be taking all aps (literally has to be all aps) and all a’s

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sooo next to impossible

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i’m considering going to a local college striaght out of highschool, building up my resume there, then applying to higher level colleges for grad school, since i’m pretty sure that makes it easier to get in

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that’s good

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yeah i need to chill

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just relax and enjoy highschool

radiant jasper
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what would be some good classes to take in high school? just wondering

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i am in us and will be starting freshman year next year

main crown
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But i also feel like i might regret spending all my time and missing out on fun trying to get into these big universities

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so either way there will be “regret”

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philosophy is so cool

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but it stresses me out

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BRO I AM NOT MAKING IT TO HARVARD

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😭😭😭

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still too lazy

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ima be ok with being mid

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it’s been gone dw

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i don’t have a head atp

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like

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that little thing in the back of your head that tells you when something is like rational

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it’s gone

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also that little voice that tells me not to do things

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doesn’t exist

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i’m dead ass

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my adhd removed it

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yesterday in the store i just said “YOOO LOOK AT HER GYATT”

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i didn’t realize i said it out loud.

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the girl turned around and look right at me

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it was scary

slender saddle
acoustic nova
#

def don’t need that for Oxford

radiant jasper
acoustic nova
willow anvil
#

Not cheap for it’s worth

wide dome
shadow dirge
arctic vortex
#

and more importantly how hard will it be bcs i think theres a very varied skill level here

acoustic nova
main crown
#

Hey, what is this from, because it really helped me out

wide dome
shadow dirge
#

But the questions needs calculus but in the contest we dont need calculis

main crown
#

true

warped wedge
#

Are there any mock tests for AMC 12 that have similar difficulty to recent ones

gusty verge
#

UKSMC is very similar to AMC

hushed charm
#

ludoviajante

hushed charm
#

Given n distinct points in the plane there exist [ n(n-1) ] / 2 pairs of points. Find all positive integers n, with n ≥ 3, for which there exists a set of n points in the plane such that for each integer d in the set { 1, 2, ..., [ n(n-1) ] / 2 } there exists a pair of points with distance equal to d. Remember that for values ​​of n with this property it is necessary to show an example and for values ​​of n that do not have the property it is necessary to justify why the set of points does not exist.

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Any ideas?

mellow portal
#

How many points do you need to qualify for aime in amc 10

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And also what about amc 12?

reef condor
#

Is more than enough

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But probably 90

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To 100

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Is cutoff for both

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Depends on test difficulty tho

mellow portal
noble quest
#

Do we have any IMO medallists here?

keen lake
burnt trail
#

I'm not one of them either

ornate blade
#

they have better things to do with their lives I can imagine

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than be on this server

south socket
#

(4,4,4),
(12,4,4),
(68,20,4),
(4,4,12),
(12,4,44),
(68,116,4),
(4,20,12),
(12,20,4),
(164,4,44).
(4,20,68),
(44,4,12),
(4,116,68),
(44,4,164),

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these are solutions

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but i cant prove it

ornate blade
#

$\frac{x^2}{1} + \frac{y^2}{1/2} + \frac{z^2}{1} \ge \frac{(x + y + z)^2}{2}$

gilded haloBOT
south socket
#

thanks

ornate blade
#

I just threw an idea around, didn't do anything

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it has some non-negligible chance of helping you, that's all

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Titu's is lovely innit

south socket
#

Actually, I can say this gave me an idea.

ornate blade
#

cool

south socket
#

It can be shown that all numbers must be a multiple of 4.

noble quest
south socket
#

K

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(Potasium)

cyan hollow
#

If anyone preparing for isi/cmi 2025 DM me @everyone

hushed charm
wide dome
#

only three days left to write it, and there are $40+ in prizes :)

modest marten
#

hey guys

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i finished all sections of AOPS alcumus

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could i now pass the AMC 12 and qualify for AIME in 2 months?

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is it likely

near apex
#

however make sure to also look over past AMC tests

gilded haloBOT
#

Vanellope von Schmugz

ocean narwhal
#

,w factor $27a^2d^2- 18abcd - b^2c^2 + 4ac^3 + 4b^3d$

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Are you sure its factorisable

brave heron
#

Bruh what

ocean narwhal
#

XD

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It looked weird

gilded haloBOT
#

Vanellope von Schmugz

ocean narwhal
#

Thats factorisable only in a very specific case anyways

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And adding terms sucks for factorisation

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The simplest example i can think of is

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1+a+b +ab & 2 +a+b+ab

dapper magnet
#

but no, u cant really factor it

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if u can, then the cubic is probably nice

quiet token
#

I can factorise hard problems

ocean narwhal
quiet token
#

Unfortunately there are no primes

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😦

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Just as a jk

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dont mind it

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@ocean narwhal

ocean narwhal
quiet token
#

Truth

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Which grade ?

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R u in btw

dapper magnet
#

no this is the full cubic discriminant

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im somewhat experienced in this

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do u want me to send u my progresses

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a strategy would be to "depress" the cubic by a transformation of coordinate system

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what i mean is that, say u have f(x) = ax^3+bx^2+cx+d, u want to find k such that f(x+k) has no x^2's coefficient

dapper magnet
vapid cipher
#

guys how do i actually study and learn competition math

wide dome
swift imp
brave heron
fading bluff
ocean narwhal
# fading bluff

💀 one way is to take log_2 x as a, log_2 y as b, log_2 z as c and solve the linear equations

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also why does it look like some amc pyq

ornate blade
# fading bluff

$\frac{x}{yz} \frac{y}{xz} \frac{z}{xy} = 2^{1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4}$

gilded haloBOT
ornate blade
#

now you know what 1/(xyz) is

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so you know what xyz is

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so you can do x/(yz) * xyz = x^2 and so on

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y/(xz) * xyz = y^2

glacial jolt
#

m/n = -7/8

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Is it correct?

slow sluice
#

How many ways can you arrange the letters of word "MATH".

  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. 3
  4. 4
    <@&286206848099549185>
    Please help me out of this problem
    Guys please
slow sluice
#

No one of them should be

hushed charm
#

In the first digit you can put m, a, t or h, supposing you choose a. In the second digit you can't put a anymore because you have already used this letter, supposing you put m. In the third digit you can choose t or h, supposing you choose t. For the last digit you can only choose the h

slow sluice
#

Mann its a question, i can't believe

hushed charm
#

what do you mean

slow sluice
#

Yes We can also use P and C

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But still i don't know mann i wrote it as three

hushed charm
#

actually there is no correct alternative

slow sluice
#

Yes

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Tk

plain dirge
#

he is just spamming/trolling, posted the question in many channels.

slow sluice
#

NO

hushed charm
#

oh

slow sluice
#

Way

hushed charm
#

that is bad mate

slow sluice
#

I only used this server for my maths

slow sluice
#

I don't have any alternative

plain dirge
#

help43, help 21, here, help1 ,,,

slow sluice
#

Also i am not spammming

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Bruh i used this server only na

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No ones giving right answer thats why i asked

plain dirge
#

you posted te same question in many channels

slow sluice
#

I won't repeat that, my mistake, sorry

hushed charm
#

But that is not an alternative in your question

slow sluice
#

Okay thank you very much guys

south socket
vapid cipher
#

oh this was answered a long time ago💀

pallid dragon
#

i would say 1

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if those are the options, must be 1

radiant jasper
#

i would guess 4, but it doesn’t really matter if every option is wrong

wide lagoon
#

8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 = 1000
add any number of + - * / ^ in lhs to make the equation true.

pearl holly
#

Any tips to get better at Competition Math and books (exclude AoPs)?

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no wait, scratch that, Any tips to get better at problem solving?

wide lagoon
#

na

wide lagoon
#

lol

radiant jasper
#

can i assume PEMDAS applies?

solemn arrow
#

888 + 88 + 8 + 8 + 8 = 1000

glacial jolt
#
$\sum_{i=1}^{3}\frac{1}{i!} = \frac{0.1\overline{6}}{\log_{n}2}$```

Anyone try to solve this which is created by me
gilded haloBOT
#

KingDanger

glacial jolt
pseudo flax
wide lagoon
#

1024

gilded haloBOT
#

DaFlameSlayer

ashen jacinth
#

chicken pizza

reef condor
vale pecan
#

Is scraping (just passing) the AIME floor for AMC 10A good? Am I cooked?

reef condor
#

If your goals are making aime then grind some more

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It also depends on how long ago you are scraping aime floor (20 years ago? Cooked. 10 years? Kinda cooked. Recent? 50/50)

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And ofc if you bomb the actual test then ur cooked

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Like if ur the type of guy to cook mocks and bomb the real test

weary void
#

tbh theres definetly time to make aime

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especailly since it seems you have a decent foundation for amc

soft vigil
#

last year i got 6~7 on aime mocks and 10 on the real test

pearl holly
#

The AMC 8 - 10 provided by AoPs themselves is good book

radiant jasper
#

Yeah in general I tend to do better on real tests too

swift imp
#

For sure I’m more focused on real tests

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Mocks more likely to be distracted

soft vigil
#

Oh no

vale pecan
#

hopefully i get to aime

hot flicker
#

yo @radiant jasper and @soft vigil, how old are yall??

vale pecan
hot flicker
#

just curious since i wanna know if anyone is close to my age

radiant jasper
#

angle bisector theorem states that the angle bisector splits the side AC in a ratio of AB:BC i believe

south socket
ornate blade
#

oh wait it's 43

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chicken nuggies

brave heron
peak kestrel
#

hairy ball theorem

#

law of the unconscious statistician

lusty plover
#

hi

wary magnet
pallid notch
#

1+1

south socket
#

3

ornate blade
modest marten
#

thats what im going to do for the next 2 months until the contest

weary light
modest marten
#

GUYS
how do i register for the AMC 12
my school doesnt offer it
do i like email another test site
but its on a wednesday
so i have school
how does that work
i just have so many questions
could someone maybe dm me and help me out?
thanks

jolly solstice
#

lookg like a=(x,y,z) and b=(y,z,x) in the dot product a*b = |a||b| cos theta and it follows

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lol

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I thought of trying something like that or an AM-GM type thing but that seemed like more work having to expand it out when I saw the dot products staring me in the face

slate light
#

My mental calculation is good

jolly solstice
#

not interested in attempting personally

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what you have is good too

slate light
#

good

jolly solstice
#

as long as that means you doing it, sure go ahead knock yourself out

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lol

weary void
#

isnt that just ||muirheads?||

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or just am gm

acoustic nova
#

easy with cauchy-schwarz

jolly solstice
#

basically the same as the dot product solution tbh

acoustic nova
#

(x^2 + y^2 + z)(y^2 + z^2 + x^2) >= (xy + yz + zx)^2 by cauchy

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so (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^2 >= (xy + yz + zx)^2

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x^2 + y^2 + z^2 is positive so it just immediately follows

weary void
#

oh yeah its pretty interesting, im pretty sure it can be derived from just am-gm or the general cauchy-schwarz but i forgot

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am-gm: LHS = (x^2+y^2)/2 + (y^2 + z^2)/2 + (z^2 + x^2)/2 >= sqrt(x^2y^2)/2 + sqrt(y^2z^2)/2 + sqrt(z^2x^2)/2 = RHS

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yeah i saw it in an evan chen handout

acoustic nova
#

they cover cauchy schwarz in intermediate algebra its good

soft vigil
#

💀

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this is trivial

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(inequality)

peak kestrel
#

x² - (p+q)x + pq = 0
D = (p+q)² - 4pq >= 0
p² + 2pq + q² - 4pq >= 0
p² + q² >= 2pq
Doesn't seem to generalize to cubics tho

dapper magnet
#

mmm

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not sure

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cuz

radiant jasper
#

can some one help

hazy island
#

is it 0??

modest marten
#

GUYS
how do i register for the AMC 12
my school doesnt offer it
do i like email another test site
but its on a wednesday
so i have school
how does that work
i just have so many questions
could someone maybe dm me and help me out?
thanks

last pier
#

hello i am having some issues with bijections, can someone help me out on a vc tmr or smthing

cold cove
weary void
last pier
radiant jasper
weary void
#

i think this is an attempt to generalize using polynomial discriminate and real nums, also does work as a solution to the problem you sent

modest marten
#

i dont get it

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i just need someone to walk me through ti

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if someone could dm the that woud be much appreciated

weary void
#

send a screenshot of what you see

south socket
#

There are 100 positive real numbers arranged around a circle. Each of these numbers is greater than the product of the first two numbers immediately following it clockwise. At most how many of these 100 numbers can be positive integers?

weary void
#

is there a typo? AFAIK all numbers being 1/2 works

slender saddle
#

infact it's the least amount possible for the condition

rich cradle
#

You can easily make 99 of them positive integers

#

But 100 is impossible

radiant jasper
rich cradle
rich cradle
rich cradle
#

But idk if can do any better

south socket
rich cradle
#

1, 1-c-c^2, 1, 1-c-2c^2, …, 1, 1-c-49c^2, 1-c, 1-c-c^2+c^3
For sufficiently small c > 0

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Uh no

#

Wait

#

I think that works

#

I think it is true that at most 49 of the numbers are >= 1

#

Cuz if two consecutive numbers are >=1 then everything is >= 1

#

And then there is quite easily a contradiction

#

If there are 50 numbers >=1 in alternating order then still there is a contradiction

#

So answer should be 49

scarlet rootBOT
south socket
#

why "If there are 50 numbers >=1 in alternating order then still there is a contradiction"

#

and why it is >= and not > cuz problem said greater than not greater than or equal to

rich cradle
#

So that gives a contradiction

rich cradle
#

So >= is more useful here

south socket
#

thanks

weary void
radiant jasper
#

here

keen lake
#

How do I learn DIT and DDIT

rich cradle
#

(They might not respond)

frozen hatch
#

Will watching lectures on tensors focused on General Relativity still be helpful if I need to learn deep learning?

#

or nah?

tight beacon
#

Hey. I was in trouble.

#

What happens to the value of the function that describes the ratio of the sine of a number to that number itself as the number gets closer and closer to zero?

hazy island
hazy island
willow anvil
tight beacon
ornate blade
brave heron
willow anvil
#

No

#

It’s projective

hazy island
#

give me some ideas regarding this

acoustic nova
abstract plover
# hazy island

You can write q^2 + 3p = 197p^2 + q as q/p = 1 + m/n. If you rewrite the equation as q^2 - q + 3p - 197p^2 = 0. If you know Quadratic formula it will be q = [1 ± sqrt(1 - 4(3p - 197p^2))] / 2.

#

After that I could not find a proper answer actually xd

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I mean it seems like there is no maximum value for l+m+n

ivory ember
#

,w q^2+3p-197p^2-q, p=17, q=239

gilded haloBOT
ivory ember
gilded haloBOT
#

Civil Service Pigeon

ivory ember
#

Then, you can see that ||q(q-1) is a multiple of p||, and hence ||(q-1) is a multiple of p||

#

See what you can do from here

hazy island
#

Shoulda seen it

acoustic nova
shadow spruce
#

MTH

shadow spruce
#

listen to courses maybe?

shadow dirge
#

Guys i need a little help

#

I can solve the question of AMC 12

#

BUT i want to solve other ques paper from different countru

#

Country*

#

Can anyone suggest a olympiad which is has similar level or a little bit higher level of difficulty

shadow spruce
#

Chinese that ends 12 hours ago

tawny sorrel
#

what number theory book should i take after aops intro to nt

shadow spruce
#

Elementary Number Theory

nimble valve
#

2+2=5

regal cliff
#

therefore 4=2+2

#

and 2=4-2

#

which is 2

#

so 2=2

#

this is also a true statement

#

proving that 2+2=5!!!!

tranquil pilot
halcyon zephyr
#

nope

hazy island
last pier
#

hello

shadow spruce
#

analytical?

#

or just 2D geo

#

I have actually never read the whole book, I just went over it real quick: Try solving these problems and examples before looking at explanation and then compare your answer with the explanation would help

shadow spruce
#

Try taylor?

#

$sinx = x-x^3/3!+x^5/5!-x^7/7!+x^9/9!+Rn(x)$

gilded haloBOT
#

Aestusy

shadow spruce
#

and everything cancels except

#

x

#

so x/x

#

or L'Hospital cosx/1 and cos0=1

#

Or, squeeze theorm

novel karma
#

simplify (log_28 216)(log_6 sqrt(7)) in simplest form without logarithms

weary void
#

but if you can get through it its definitely a good resource

weary void
novel karma
warped wedge
#

How much easier are the first 14 or so questions on 2010-2017 AMC 12s vs more recent ones?

#

If I want to qualify for AIME would getting 96-100 ish on those earlier ones be a good indication

marble grove
#

oh wait I should ask here

#

my question is comp math ig? its called study

#

in help forum

shadow spruce
shadow spruce
weary void
weary void
brave dirge
#

im having trouble solving it

mellow portal
#

On an amc practice test I got 2 questions wrong bc I forgot to distribute properly and thought 4/60 was 1/20 💀

green warren
#

y=mx+?

ornate blade
#

y = mx + c btw

green warren
#

C

ornate blade
#

so what about it?

green warren
#

IDK functions are just fun to do

wary dawn
#

where can I find some good materials that approaches Calculus 1 and algebraic structures(rings, groups, polynomials, etc) for math olympiads?

frigid gorge
ornate blade
#

calculus is not required at all for any high school olympiads

#

are you talking about for something like Putnam which is at university?

#

yeah sounds like it

wary dawn
ornate blade
wary dawn
#

high school

ornate blade
#

jesus christ

frigid gorge
wary dawn
#

if I couls find something in english, its just as good

ornate blade
frigid gorge
wary dawn
#

so i am fine with that

shadow dirge
shadow spruce
#

@river iris

weary void
shadow spruce
#

Better for looking at specific problem-solving strategies

prisma dune
#

How do I make nationals in math counts I live in tx tho

prisma dune
#

I will make aime this year hopefully (I’m in 8th)

novel karma
#

tmsca

shadow spruce
#

:(((

prisma dune
#

i wouldve got 4th in math but i curved my e's

#

6th in sci(tie but percent accuracy)

reef condor
radiant jasper
marble grove
#

Can someone list good formula's to know for optics and astrophysics rq

wary magnet
marble grove
#

ok ty

#

theese were in the books I was reading but I just skimmed it

wary magnet
#

yeah

#

these are very important

#

and also remember both the planet and the sun move bc of gravity (earth also have a gravity). The sun is not completely stagnant but it moves ever so slightly

ripe blade
#

yo aussies

#

anyone do aimo today?

ornate blade
#

oh it was today

#

it was also R U OK day today lol

pseudo flax
#

sed

shadow spruce
#

Real Mathematics

hot flicker
#

les go

#

im grinding to IMO currently

#

my goal is to get to IMO by 11th grade

sterile helm
#

is qualifying to AIME very hard?

reef condor
warped wedge
#

Are the first 13 questions on recent AMC12s harder than earlier ones or is it just later ones that get harder

torpid carbon
royal estuary
#

Hey i wanted tips on proof writing

#

Specifically in combinatorics and inequalities

#

Can anyone help

shadow spruce
#

Thank you very much.

weary void
#

but it could have just been by chance

merry thistle
buoyant arrow
ornate blade
# buoyant arrow

there's a trick: $B = A - \left( \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{4^2} + \frac{1}{6^2} + \cdots \right)$

$= A - \frac{1}{2^2} \left( \frac{1}{1^2} + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{3^2} + \cdots \right)$

gilded haloBOT
buoyant arrow
#

can you send a enhanced solution please

ornate blade
buoyant arrow
#

after thus

#

this*

ornate blade
buoyant arrow
#

Ohhh

#

Thanks

ornate blade
#

no worries

buoyant arrow
#

is it too hard que for grade 10th?

#

or an easy

ornate blade
#

competition maths is a bunch of tricks

#

I wouldn't be surprised if you got something that was awfully challenging for 10th grade

#

this question is quick if you know what to do

buoyant arrow
#

can i ask more que?

#

from that test?

ornate blade
#

sure

#

(just ask one question at a time pls)

buoyant arrow
buoyant arrow
ornate blade
# buoyant arrow

oh so you want to lose 12 hours in total (I thought it was 24 hours but the question assumes there's no AM/PM)

#

so that is 12 * 4 = 48 days

buoyant arrow
#

which date?

ornate blade
#

ah so be careful, so from 1st of July to 31st of July you have 30 days

buoyant arrow
#

its 5 oct

ornate blade
#

the question is vague yes

ornate blade
buoyant arrow
#

But how?

#

indeed 18th is correct

#

how did you pridicted it?

ornate blade
#

read everything I said again

#

and that 48 = 30 + 18 ofc

#

so try counting up to the end of the month so that you don't mess up

buoyant arrow
#

Ohhh

#

How are you soo good man

#

what are you persuing sir?

#

@ornate blade

ornate blade
#

this is for grade 8

buoyant arrow
#

it is still a fascinating achivement

ornate blade
buoyant arrow
#

ohh

ornate blade
#

for example

#

20 to 25 should be challenging and they definitely will be at your level

buoyant arrow
#

okey

#

let me try

#

Yaa

#

i got 2/5

#

How can i get good at maths too

ornate blade
#

the uncomfortable truth is that maths takes effort and time

buoyant arrow
#

Yaa

ornate blade
#

and competition maths needs an entirely different set of tools

#

it's not like school maths at all

buoyant arrow
#

im the smartest in my class in maths but i want to go higher

ornate blade
#

that's admirable

#

and you don't have to force yourself to learn more, just do it cause you like learning new things

buoyant arrow
#

i got 97/100 in my 9th exam in maths

#

do you know about

#

jee adv from

#

indian?

ornate blade
#

man India is just insane

#

glad you're doing well so far but 11th and especially 12th require a lot of effort for many people, cause there's a jump in difficulty

#

and you probably already know that adv is miles beyond the regular 12th syllabus for NCERT

buoyant arrow
#

yaa ik i was just asking have you attempted its que?

#

you are from?

#

where?

wanton badge
ornate blade
#

I've done a few AMCs but I graduated high school before 2023

buoyant arrow
#

Ohh

covert dock
#

does anyone have gaokao math subjects in english?

#

ill trade this year's admission exam for the university of bucharest which was also interesting :3

livid hawk
#

what is heterolytic cleavage?

shadow spruce
#

🤔

hot flicker
#

am i correct?

silent dove
#

hows you go

#

howd

ripe blade
#

hbu?

silent dove
#

i got 1-7 and q9

#

what'd u get for 7 and 8

reef condor
#

open ai o1 going crazy

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although it probably requires absolutely absurd amounts of computing power

ripe blade
ripe blade
silent dove
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i think i got q8 wrong

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and some ppl are saying that the answer for q7 was apparently 86

silent dove
ripe blade
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woah

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i got the prime^2 thing

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but not the n = prime^prime^2-1

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thats amazing

silent dove
silent dove
dapper magnet
timber island
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Hey guys, got a big competition tomorrow

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Got any advice?

sour depot
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i'm new here but

eat and sleep well! (also alot of people like eating chocolate right b4 idk why tho)

echo owl
brave heron
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I do it a lot

ornate blade
ornate blade
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you can check yourself!