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torn herald
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For the fourth column in the augmented matrix, is it always just the coefficients of q(t), if so, why is this the case

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This is just a study plan quiz not graded.

So I need to make a formula for the table.

I'm assuming that s means salary and I'm assuming that the pay per hour is $18 per hour since we start at 2 hours for 36 and continue scaling up by adding another 18 per hour.

So is the formula s=h(18) correct?

eternal hawk
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I've done the reverse math by using my own formula to calculate

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like s=3(18) gives me $54

frozen ledge
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it’s just linear

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slope is clearly 18

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then use point slope formula

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also why not hk-47?

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eternal hawk
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What is the point slope formula?

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I used s=3(18) and it came back as a correct answer

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Well

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I mean I used

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s=h(18)

frozen ledge
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$y - y_1 = m(x - x_1)$

rocky lotusBOT
eternal hawk
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Is this a joke? p.p

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Should I have used that? I'm in intermediate algebra section 1 and s=h(18) was correct on the quiz

frozen ledge
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h(18)?

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you should say 18h

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but yes

eternal hawk
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So for the future I should try to say 18h? instead of h(18)

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How come? Just looks nicer or what?

frozen ledge
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yea

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well it’s standard to just right the number as a coefficient

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and h(18) looks like function notation

eternal hawk
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Uhhh

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yeah I understood that

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I'm still learning the basics

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how like when you are converting an english phrase as an algebraic expression

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that LESS THAN means you are taking or adding to a number

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so like

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Two more than a number is x + 2

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or fifteen less than a number is x - 15

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sometimes my brain wants to do it the other way around when I read the less than ones

frozen ledge
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youll get comfortable with it

eternal hawk
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I hope

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lofty crown
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am i supposed to use these properties to show this question or is there a simpler way

gleaming kindle
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hint: $\mathrm{graph}(\phi)\ss V\times W$

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lofty crown
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im still confused

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does it have anything to do with this proposition

gleaming kindle
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if A is a vector space and B is a subset of A then B is a vector space (with operations inherited from A) if and only if B is a subspace of A

lofty crown
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oh so VxW is a vector space

gleaming kindle
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if you didnt know that already, take some time to convince yourself why

lofty crown
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oh right

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addition is component wise in V x W right

gleaming kindle
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yes

lofty crown
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ah got it, thanks

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np

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eternal hawk
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I need some help doing long division to convert the fraction 170 over 11 into a mixed number

eternal hawk
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Apparently I can't remember how to do it at all xd

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11 goes into 1 no times so you move onto 17 yes?

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11 goes into 17 once

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11 x 1 = 11 obv so

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then you get this?

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Do I subtract 11 from 17 then? Or do I bring the 0 down and then subtract 110 from 170?

midnight iris
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first u do the subtraction

eternal hawk
midnight iris
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and then u bring the 0 down

eternal hawk
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okay so 11 from 17 first

midnight iris
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yesyes

eternal hawk
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So that becomes 60 then

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and now I'm lost on what to do

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This where I got lost when I was doing it on paper while going through my study plan

midnight iris
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u know the table of 11?

eternal hawk
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Wym?

midnight iris
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11 * 1
11 * 2

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etc

eternal hawk
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yeah I know anything times 11 is like doubled or whatever

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11 * 2 = 22

midnight iris
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yes what comes before 60

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which multiple of 11

eternal hawk
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11 * 5?

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55?

midnight iris
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yes

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yes

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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So what do I do there

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No

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I have that 55 but I don't know what to do with it

midnight iris
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and write 5 in quotient

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like u did with the 1

eternal hawk
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So how do I show that I found the 55 that way on my paper

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do I write 11 * 5 off to the side?

midnight iris
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cuz idt its necessary u can just say mental calculation

eternal hawk
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maybe 8

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I'm breaking down here I should know this but I've just forgotten it

eternal hawk
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Like this?

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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5..

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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I haven't eaten or slept all day..

midnight iris
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rewrite jt

midnight iris
eternal hawk
midnight iris
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sleep and eat fkrst

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they are very imp

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get some sleep

eternal hawk
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I can't.. I'm too stressed out about this intermediate algebra class

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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So then I write the faction as 15, 5 over 11?

midnight iris
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yesss

eternal hawk
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guh I tried to write out the fraction here

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😔

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I feel so fucking stupid

midnight iris
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nah dw i get what ur trying to say

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u wanna try some other divisions too?

eternal hawk
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Sure I would like to..

midnight iris
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12√1464

eternal hawk
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so 12 goes into 14 once as 12

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12 can't go into 2 so I bring down the 6..?

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or do I bring down the 6 and the 4?

midnight iris
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try yourself

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trust your process

eternal hawk
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I mean..

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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12 can go into 264 22 times

midnight iris
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if u bring down one number

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and its smaller than the divisor

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then u put 0 in quotient

eternal hawk
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Which one is the divisor again 😭

midnight iris
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and bring down the other number

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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1464 is the dividend?

candid temple
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hello, can anyone here help with calculus level math? calculus 2 perhaps?

midnight iris
midnight iris
eternal hawk
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I just wanna write these parts down before continuing so I can be less confused

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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Okay so back to the problem

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lemme read what you said about the trick

eternal hawk
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so I DO NOT put a 0 in the quotient?

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Cause that makes it 126?

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Or wait no that makes it 26?

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Like this?

midnight iris
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so u just solve it like u did with 14

eternal hawk
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12 goes into 26 1 time

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I put a 1 on top and a 12 under the 26?

midnight iris
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are u sure

eternal hawk
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2 times

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Sorry

midnight iris
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no sorry here

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ur trying to learn it doesn't include sorry

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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So this looks good..?

eternal hawk
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Now I drop down the 4 and do it again?

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Since 24 is bigger than 12

midnight iris
midnight iris
eternal hawk
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Did I do it right..?

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Drop down the 4 to make 24

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12 goes into 24 twice coming out as 24

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so 24 - 24 = 0

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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Do I do anything with that 0 at the end or no?

midnight iris
midnight iris
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try 13√1293

eternal hawk
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Okay so nothing since it's a 0

eternal hawk
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Real quick before doing that math problem

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The previous one you gave me

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To turn it into a mixed number I would get

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122 0/11?

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So it'd just be a whole number?

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midnight iris
eternal hawk
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Okay

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I'll do that other problem now

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Okay so

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13 doesn't go into 1

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13 doesn't go into 12

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13 goes into 129 9 times?

midnight iris
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are u using a calculator

eternal hawk
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Just for the multiplication

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😭

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I'm doing the division by hand because that's what I really need to learn

midnight iris
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its allowed in exam?

eternal hawk
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yes

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as well as notes

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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what : (

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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okay I'll continue

midnight iris
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solve the whole question

eternal hawk
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okay

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no

midnight iris
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ohh

eternal hawk
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okay so

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so I do it again?

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since 13 can go into 19 once

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cause if I do it again

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I get 981 remainder 6

midnight iris
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huh

eternal hawk
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what : (

fossil mulch
eternal hawk
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Okay

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so

narrow arrow
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If he can use calculators in exams why doesn't he just [1293/13] and (1293-[1293/13]) /13

eternal hawk
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98 remainder 19

midnight iris
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no

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the answer is 99

eternal hawk
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where did I mess up huh

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I just back tracked

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and still got 98

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: (

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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13 goes into 129 9 times for 117

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oh

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I'm stupid

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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because I'm stupid and starving and tired

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and I for some reason didn't think that 13 would go into the number 9 times again

midnight iris
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no ur not stupid

midnight iris
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first go eat something

eternal hawk
midnight iris
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starving yourself isn't helping u

eternal hawk
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wait

midnight iris
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so go eat something

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and take a nap

eternal hawk
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Atleast tell me if I did it right

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99 r6

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I can't take a nap it's 12:30am

midnight iris
midnight iris
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giving exam exhausted will only flunk it

eternal hawk
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The exam isn't until thursday

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I'm mostly trying to figure out if I have what it takes to do this class or if I should drop it for something else..

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Well it's just a small quiz on thursday

eternal hawk
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no but I have to take intermediate algebra either here or at the community college

midnight iris
eternal hawk
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Well that's a lie

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I liked the 1.1 stuff a couple hours ago

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I don't hate it I just hate my brain I guess idk

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And I hate that I'm trying so hard to maintain a 4.0

midnight iris
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brains are weird to different talents

midnight iris
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ut

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cuz it will just feel like a burden either way

eternal hawk
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I mean I have to do it for my degree

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I'm just hating on the stress trying to maintain a 4.0 causes me lol

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I considered dropping the course for something easier. And doing the intermediate algebra with the local community college and transferring it

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It should transfer and transfer grades don't impact your gpa

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I have until the 24th to drop it

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I'm TRYING to get to the first quiz (Which is due thursday night)

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To see how I do

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I only need 576/640 points for an A since it's on the 90 to 100% grade scale

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eternal hawk
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I'm hoping to get 168 points from the easy homework, discussions, and extra credit

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so that leaves me with 408 to get from the 4 quizzes and 4 tests.

Each quiz is 30 points each and each test is 100

eternal hawk
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None of the long division problems are as big as what @midnight iris gave me

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Like the few I've had so far which were meant to convert improper fractions to mixed numbers

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were like

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25 / 4

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So what I meant was do the division on the calculator you will get some number with decimals like let's say 13/3 you get 4.33
Take the next number smaller than that so 4 in this case do 3x4 for the whole number part and (13-3x4) /3 in the fractional part

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But just ignore that

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Man I hate how discord messes up *

eternal hawk
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:v

narrow arrow
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Good luck on your quizes

eternal hawk
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Thanks 😔

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@midnight iris Any chance I can bother you in the future for a refresher? 😔 if I need it

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prime facorization is next.. : (

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I'll be back tomorrow for more help guh.. but before I do that

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I'mma do one more problem someone check it pls..

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Did I do this long division problem correctly

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I need to go get something to eat like let said. If someone could let me know about that problem that'd be great. : (

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@eternal hawk Has your question been resolved?

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Ty ty..

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Is anyone here able to explain how to compute backpropagation on a neural network?

I understand roughly, but doing it to the loss functions/relu/etc is making my head spin.

Example questions:

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I dont have an assignment or anything, just trying to study for a midterm

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If y'all have any tips for stuff to put on a cheat-sheet, id appreciate that as well

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How would i find the vertex of a parabola of the form Ax^2+By^2+Cxy+Dx+Ey+F

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.open is not necessary btw

dreamy scroll
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ic

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It's a local maxima or minima so the gradient would be 0

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may someone provide me a definition of an isolated point using mathematical notation, like in the epsilon delta definition for limits/continuity? i understand isolated points are anything that isnt a limit point but its easier for me to use a definition if its in that format

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have to find orthognal of this

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tried this

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,rotate

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Studying for a Calculus III exam tomorrow, currently, I am stuck on this problem.
I am just really confused on whether or not this is printed correctly.
Since the inner integral is integrating with respect to x, shouldn't the bounds of the inner integral be in terms of y?
Reversing the order of integration from y=x^(1/3) to y = 2 gives me x = 0 and x = y^3, meaning that the bounds should be from 0 to y^3, yet the integrating and then trying to plug in the values, I get that y=y^3. which doesnt really make sense (Can be seen on the right side of the equals sign)

So Is this really meant to be solved or should I just keep it at that since it just says to reverse the order of integration? Or can it actually be solved and I am looking at it the wrong way?
I asked ChatGPT for help and it said that the inner integral being in the bounds for x should be x=y^(1/3) which is what I thought but idk if its halucinating as usual.

ivory valley
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there seems to be an error in the integral

winged lake
ivory valley
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Yes, there is very likely a printing error

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else you have bounds from x=x^(1/3) to x=2 which for the lower bound is nonsense

winged lake
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yeah thats the error I encountered at the end when I realized that the notation implied y=y^3

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so I thought I messed up somewhere

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but good to know

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thank you

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how do I close this?

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barren imp
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Hi I need help with some word problems

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feral sapphire
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Just ask your question.

golden gate
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barren imp
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Oh- ok

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I have done this before but I cant remember how I did so

golden gate
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!status

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barren imp
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golden gate
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Do you know how to solve equations with a single variable?

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@barren imp

barren imp
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Not great with word problems

fleet grail
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Ok!

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We can help

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me and tandon

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Imma set up a word problem.

golden gate
golden gate
barren imp
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All I know is theres 7 cm and the new square has 42 cms more

fleet grail
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$7x = 42$

rocky lotusBOT
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Average_X^2

fleet grail
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Hold up

barren imp
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?

fleet grail
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7 * 42?

golden gate
rocky lotusBOT
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@golden gate

fleet grail
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$x = ?$

rocky lotusBOT
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Average_X^2

barren imp
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Yeah

barren imp
fleet grail
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$Ok, solve it!$

rocky lotusBOT
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Average_X^2

golden gate
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Do you know the formula for perimeter of a square?

barren imp
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I believe its length²?

fleet grail
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no.

golden gate
fleet grail
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Its $4s$

rocky lotusBOT
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Average_X^2

barren imp
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Oh

fleet grail
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But you got the area of a square right. It is $s^2$

rocky lotusBOT
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Average_X^2

barren imp
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Wai-

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4(l)

fleet grail
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no.

golden gate
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4l or 4s both work

fleet grail
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Not l

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But they both function as the same thing

golden gate
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Ok so, so far we have established, Perimeter of a square is 4 * l, wherein l is the length of the side of the square

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Now

fleet grail
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$4l = 4w = S^2 = Perimeter of a Square$

golden gate
fleet grail
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Shoot.

barren imp
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Ok

golden gate
barren imp
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Ok well maybe... 4(L)+7?

golden gate
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l is the length of the side, when we make a new square by increasing the length by 7, how do you think we'll represent that?

golden gate
barren imp
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Oh.

golden gate
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You see we've increased the length by 7

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So $l \mapsto l + 7$

rocky lotusBOT
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@golden gate

golden gate
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Since the perimeter is 4l

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For the new square it will be ______

barren imp
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+42?

golden gate
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No I meant like what would the application of the formula look like on the new square

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$$l_n = l + 7$$
$$P(l) = 4 \times l$$
$$P(l_n) = ?$$

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@golden gate

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This seems a bit confusing with the way this is being set up

golden gate
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Ok do this

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If we have a square which has a side of 10

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What is it's perimeter?

barren imp
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40

golden gate
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Good

barren imp
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Wait what if its set up 4(l + 7)= something 42

golden gate
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The new perimeter will be 4(l + 7)

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from the formula that is

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Ok cool

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Now we're saying this is equal to

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42 more than twice the length of the side of the original square

golden gate
barren imp
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Hmmmmmmm

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I.... do not know how to set this part up

golden gate
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Ok

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42 more than, means we're going to add 42 to the thing which is to the right of this
twice, means 2 *
the length of the side of the original square, recall that is equal to l

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Putting this all together

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42 + 2l

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Now equate both the expressions

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4(l + 7) = 42 + 2l

barren imp
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Oooo so its something like- well yeH- that

golden gate
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Yea

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can you solve this now?

barren imp
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Ok

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So length is... 7cms?

golden gate
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Yes

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Alr cool

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For the next time remember in word problems, the key is to apply all the steps stated in the English statement step by step

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try to partition it

barren imp
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I see

golden gate
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generally, look for what you don't know

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then, start applying the procedures stated to the variable

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CanI ask a few more?

golden gate
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Yea sure

barren imp
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Ok so this one I think Im using slope but Im unsure

golden gate
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This is a question of similarity of triangles

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Are you aware of that concept?

barren imp
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Oh!

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Right!

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💀

golden gate
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?

barren imp
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Ok I got 10

golden gate
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That's wrong

barren imp
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Oh wait-

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I set this up like pythagorean theorem...

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Ok I need help setting this up.

golden gate
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Ok, can you draw rough figures for the question?

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Draw one for the person and one for the tree

barren imp
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They're both trees

golden gate
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They aren't but that's not important to the question

barren imp
golden gate
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Good

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IDK why you calculated the distance between the top of the person's head and the shadow's head

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but in any case

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Mark the angle between the base and the hypotenuse as being equal on both the triangles

barren imp
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I dont know💀

golden gate
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Ok

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Can you label the diagrams

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Like maybe triangle ABC for the first one

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and PQR for the second one

barren imp
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Ok

golden gate
barren imp
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How do we set up this equation

golden gate
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Now, in this figure, $\angle BAC = \angle QPR$

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@golden gate

golden gate
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Now we'll use similarity

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If you're not aware In similar figures the ratios of the corresponding parts are equal

barren imp
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I should probably bring up the fact this is linear equalities

golden gate
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but I don't think you can use anything except similarity to get the relation between the two figures

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which we then use to form the equation

barren imp
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Ok

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6 ft is the height 8ft is the shadow

golden gate
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$\Delta ABC \sim \Delta PQR \implies \frac{AC}{PQ} = \frac{BC}{QR} = \frac{AB}{PQ}$

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@golden gate

golden gate
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@golden gate

barren imp
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Ha?

golden gate
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Well yea

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because it doesn't matter to the question

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we just need the height of the tree

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not the distance from the top of the tree to the top of the tree's shadow

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We just need to exploit $\frac{AC}{PQ} = \frac{BC}{QR}$ here, to find $QR$

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@golden gate

golden gate
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We already know the other three

barren imp
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Ok

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True

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But how do we plug it inas equation?

golden gate
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This is an equation

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just put the values in here

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An equation is two expressions concatenated with an equal to sign

barren imp
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Ah...

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Applications of linear functions souldnt be this frustrating for me and yet here we are trying to remember for the life of me before the test

golden gate
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Hey, it happens to the best of us

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DW about it

barren imp
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Thanks

golden gate
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For now just prep for your exams

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Best of Luck for them

barren imp
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Thanks

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So back to the equation?

golden gate
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sure, can you solve it?

barren imp
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Hmmmm

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Is it something like
...
6/x=8/27?

golden gate
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Yes

proud leaf
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you cant solve this?

golden gate
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They never said they can't

barren imp
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Ouch

proud leaf
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anyway

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what is it with you

barren imp
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I just needed help deciphering the way to set it up

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I suck at word problems

golden gate
proud leaf
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you talkin to me?

golden gate
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@barren imp did you get the answer now?

barren imp
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Im working it out

golden gate
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k, cool

barren imp
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Ok so far I have 8x=6(27) is this correct?

golden gate
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Yes

barren imp
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So then x=20.25

golden gate
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correct

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Good!

barren imp
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Also question how does the multiplying work do you just flip the 8/27 and multiply it on both sides to cross cancle I just want to make sure

golden gate
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Yes, that's pretty much it

barren imp
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I see

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Ok let me try another one before I show the next word problem I struggle with

golden gate
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Ok, I gtg for now though

barren imp
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Oh shoot ok

golden gate
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Open another help channel with your next problem so that people can help you on that

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Alr

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And once again, good luck for your exams

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I'll close this one for you

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On

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if you have an undirected graph
you can get from any vertex to any other vertex
it has 21 edges and 12 vertices

how to know if every vertex's degree is even (it has Eulerian circuit)?

and how to answer this in general, not for a special case?


in this task nothing is said about cycles, so idk what to do with them

low ice
bright goblet
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description (in case I missed something):

In the old town, streets are arranged so that they connect intersections. Each intersection is connected to the others by paved streets. A cyclist wants to cycle through the city, riding along each street exactly once, and then return to the starting point.
There are 12 intersections in the city. All streets are two-way. A total of 21 streets run between various intersections. From any intersection, you can travel to any other. Some intersections are connected by multiple streets.
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they say that this problem has a general solution

low ice
bright goblet
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yeah that's the special case

low ice
bright goblet
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hmm, so if I mention Eulerian circuit in my soln, would it count as general? idk

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hi im not sure what to put in the middle

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for a) and b) i tried couple of different ways and it did not work

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but i got the answers right

quiet marlin
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middle where?

stuck plover
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the blank spaces

quiet marlin
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word

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you're concerned with some x value slightly larger than -1; what is f(x) for such x values?

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Hi the solution for this problem is 7 23 31 37 , however that not the main issues, my main problem is trying to understand the question.

I am currently thinking that the puzzle was asking : What combination that 2 number Beth and 2 number Cloe play such that it force Anne to can not play on first and last round.
my code that brute force this approach yield no solution. Perhaps i don't fully understand question
I wrote a program to brute force trying all possible combination of number that beth and cloe can play such that it force Anne to have a number that she can not play on first and last round, yield no solution
maybe my undestanding of question is wrong
Please don't tell me how to solve it, i just want to know if my understanding of question is correct. (I will solve this on my own)

icy sigil
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Ann went first so you should brute force that before Beth and Chloe.

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got it , that should make sense, ill try to solve this on my own now

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hi

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Hi is there anyone here to help

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turbid mist
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I got the answer D for this is that right

dreamy scroll
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hmm there was a cmd for this

dreamy scroll
turbid mist
dreamy scroll
turbid mist
dreamy scroll
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it diffrentiates for you

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but i forgot how

turbid mist
dreamy scroll
dreamy scroll
turbid mist
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Oh alright so your a math teacher?

halcyon forge
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is this D?

dreamy scroll
turbid mist
dreamy scroll
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or you can dm me , i can do them when i'm free

halcyon forge
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hi

dreamy scroll
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turbid mist
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Thats alright if he has a question you can help it out i dont mind

halcyon forge
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thanks a lot

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?? Has to claim a new channel for his to be answered. This is your channel.

turbid mist
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Oh okay

halcyon forge
honest stone
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Basically, send your question in an open channel, like #help-19

honest stone
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Hi.

dreamy scroll
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As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

dreamy scroll
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oh mb

halcyon forge
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answer thats why

dreamy scroll
halcyon forge
turbid mist
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Hi

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I need help for this question

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I got -22 is that right?

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Hi

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Is there anyone available

feral sapphire
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,wolf f''(1) for f(x)=(3x^2 - 5x)^2

feral sapphire
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Yes.

turbid mist
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<@&286206848099549185>

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Hello

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I got D for this is that right

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<@&286206848099549185>

fleet burrow
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,w derivative of y = (x - 1)(x^2 - 4)

fleet burrow
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,w solve 3x^2 - 2x - 4 = -4

fleet burrow
turbid mist
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Thank you so much

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And one more

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This im not sure

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I think its C

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Is C right or no?

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Hello, I'm having difficulties understanding how to solve (mostly even start to solve) for the following questions:

I'm requesting a proof of just the first 3-4 steps and I'll figure out the rest from there.

for B) I'm not sure what to do beyond the quotient rule; should I apply the chain rule? How would I best apply the chain rule?
for P2) I have no idea of how to deal with this.

(This is my second time taking this course after a few years of no math to improve my grade, I have incredibly spotty memory, but I have learned this before)
While I understand most of the properties, I often get lost on where to apply them, or get lost figuring out when it would be useful to apply them. Additionally, I have:
Diagnosed memory issues with basic rules, such as exponent rules sometimes.
Slight discalculia, I will read longer numbers completely incorrectly and will say something completely different from what I thought I said.
My one braincell working very hard, but sometimes the silence is too loud for that one braincell to actually mentally process anything.

I do have accommodations to try to aid me, and I do write down every step (with written descriptions) to combat small errors.

While I'm at it, if there are any recommendations or easier way to associate things, I'd gladly appreciate it. I often am left doing proofs for tests to catch if what I think I can do is sound logic, which hogs my time.

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I move it here for you so that people don't need to go back to the original post

viscid hawk
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ahh ok thank you

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I just noticed nobody was looking at the initial post

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here is where I started getting stuck for B

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also, side note, is this correct? I thought the answer was odd, and google is saying a completely different answer :')

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clever sentinel
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(2x^1/2)'
= 2 × 1/2 × x^(1/2 - 1)
= x^(-1/2)

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you did that wrong

viscid hawk
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thank you

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I missed my -1/2 in my notation, thank you

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I was wondering why I left a space -

clever sentinel
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that's correct

viscid hawk
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oh, alright! mine came out fumbled.

safe fulcrum
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,w d/dx (x^2 e^x) / (x^2 + e^x)

safe fulcrum
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yeah that's equivalent to yours

viscid hawk
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or is this seriously the answer..

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minus the hiccup with the +x instead of +1/(sqrt(x))

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,w d/dx (v^3-2v)(v^(-4)+v^(-2))

viscid hawk
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whar

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how???

clever sentinel
# viscid hawk how???

maybe because you didn't define v to be function of x so it thinks v is a constant

viscid hawk
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ohhh

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,w d/dv (v^3-2v)(v^(-4)+v^(-2))

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that's better

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still confused cuz I screwed something up

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oh... wait ugh I gotta multiply the exponents out don't I?

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,w simplify (3v^2)*(v^(-4))

viscid hawk
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wait huh

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I didn't mess up there?

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,w d/dv (v^3-2v)(v^(-4)+v^(-2))

viscid hawk
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,w simplify (-4*v^(-5))(v^3)

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oh found it

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,w simplify (-4*v^(-5))(-2v)

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,w simplify -8v^4-2v^(-4)

viscid hawk
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uhhh... okay can't do that

viscid hawk
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,w d/dx e^(3x)

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alright just checking...

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can never be too careful..

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,w d/dx e^(tan(2x))+sin(e^(3x))

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,w d/dx (x+2*x^(1/2))/(x^2cos(x)-1)

viscid hawk
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how did it get there??

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,w d/dx (x^2cos(x)-1)

viscid hawk
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uhhh..

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what did I do wrong 😭

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am I finished??

proud leaf
viscid hawk
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no no

vapid sand
viscid hawk
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I was double checking my math

proud leaf
proud leaf
proud leaf
viscid hawk
vapid sand
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I am evil

proud leaf
proud leaf
viscid hawk
# rocky lotus

ngl no clue how it got here from what I have but for now I won't have to solve farther if what I have in B has as much trig canceled out

viscid hawk
proud leaf
# viscid hawk wait wdym

the first rule is
d(numerator) * d'(Denominator ) - d'(numerator) * d(Denominator ) // (Denominator )^2

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you didnt do the Denominator

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oh my bad

viscid hawk
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wait yeah I did though?

proud leaf
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but the cosx one was wrong

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cause its like Product Rule

viscid hawk
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can you point it out again? I do have a square in the denominator

proud leaf
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this one i mean

vapid sand
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Negative sin

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Oh wait he put derivative markers

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So it should be fine

viscid hawk
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and i do take it as (f/g) = (f'.g-g'.f)/(g^2)

proud leaf
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i dont get it why people do it it tricks me sometimes

vapid sand
vapid sand
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It’s very bad practice I think

viscid hawk
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ah I call it the power rule, I meant product my bad

proud leaf
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viscid hawk
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I take all the steps, I'd use d/dx but it takes longer to write and takes more space on paper

vapid sand
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Just put it as 2x times cosx plus negative sin x times x squared

proud leaf
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power rule product rule chain rule they all the same rule

viscid hawk
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I kind of write big, so every inch matters

viscid hawk
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there are two pages (And a page gap)

proud leaf
vapid sand
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I came in late

proud leaf
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let him talk first

vapid sand
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lol

viscid hawk
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I'm wondering if ((1+x^(-1/2))(x^2cos(x)-1)- x*(2cos(x)-xsin(x)))(x+2x^(1/2)))

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over the denominator is as far as I can go

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in terms of reducing the trig functions

proud leaf
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show me the original equation

viscid hawk
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this was my last step

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the original equation is at the top

proud leaf
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am lazy to go back up there

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mention me

viscid hawk
vapid sand
viscid hawk
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"place I got stuck" is the exact thing I just sent a screenshot of, the only difference is I accidentally missed the power on the first x in that screenshot

vapid sand
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That is not okay

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That has got to be against the rules

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Why would he ever assign something like this

viscid hawk
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uhh... I've had two evil calc teachers... so I thought it was normal?

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be hard on the students and they can survive calc 2 is their mindset LOL

vapid sand
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First of all cancel of out one of the x^2 times cosx - 1

viscid hawk
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I took calc 1 in my sophomore year of HS but I dropped it by second quarter cuz I didn't think I could survive. I bombed the sem. final so I got away with a low B and an incomplete for the class :')

vapid sand
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Rip

viscid hawk
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now it's college

proud leaf
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vapid sand
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way easier

viscid hawk
proud leaf
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also, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that

vapid sand
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I will be back when I finish

viscid hawk
proud leaf
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sooo... atp am I done and it's basically just... expanding?

proud leaf
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you could cancel the ^2

vapid sand
proud leaf
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but good work

vapid sand
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You can’t do that

viscid hawk
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y'all both confusing me 😭

proud leaf
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am specialised in integrals and diifeq so @vapid sand help me twin

viscid hawk
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I didn't skip any steps, it was four steps and then I think wolfram just expanded at that point but nothing really cancels in terms of trig functions / finding trig identities to cancel things out

vapid sand
proud leaf
viscid hawk
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I'm just wondering why my teacher gave me a problem with such an unclean answer

proud leaf
viscid hawk
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my last problem is to find where the normal line at (-1,1) of x^2-xy+y^2=3 intersects a second time into the graph

proud leaf
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use Identifications if you know some

vapid sand
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Holy fuck this is hell

viscid hawk
vapid sand
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I need like two lines to write the whole thing

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Yeah no nothing does

viscid hawk
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alright so that problem is done...

vapid sand
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No wait

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I am still doing it

viscid hawk
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for the f(x+h) yadayada eq?

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I'm guessing that's what it means by "normal line"?

vapid sand
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Okay if you don’t simplify anything at all this is the answer, don’t mind the numerator, it’s that whole ass top thing in the box

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Sorry I would simplify it but maybe another day

viscid hawk
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the sideways picture makes it difficult to read :')

vapid sand
proud leaf
vapid sand
proud leaf
viscid hawk
# vapid sand

ahhh you took the second derivative of the original eq (which was asking about the first derivative) of (x+2x^(1/2))/(x^2cos(x)-1)

vapid sand
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that was already the derivative

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I am going to end it bro

viscid hawk
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I hate to break it to both of you, but I'm wondering how you misread so much information lol

vapid sand
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Took the second for no reason

vapid sand
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It’s okay

viscid hawk
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I was wondering if that was the clean derivative (in terms of reducing trig functions), and wolfram kinda already says so

vapid sand
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You can find concavity now

viscid hawk
proud leaf
viscid hawk
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(context, I have chickens, he got chicken eggs)

vapid sand
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Well finding that second derivative I think was all the derivative practice I need for a year

viscid hawk
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I should substitue y=1 for all the y values, right?

proud leaf
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thats the answer

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i am too lazy to solve it so i used a tool

viscid hawk
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ahh thank you

proud leaf
viscid hawk
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kind of weird how I'm solving without derivatives, though?

vapid sand
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vapid sand
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Actually wait it wasn’t even that bad

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The only reason I thought it was hell was because I was taking the second derivative

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The first was very easy

viscid hawk
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he keeps saying it is the "bare minimum", at least I'm not getting pop quizzes on all of trig like I was in my high school for the first two weeks

vapid sand
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The second was just absolute hell

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viscid hawk
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But I did that by myself

proud leaf
viscid hawk
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ended up being a long aaa thing

vapid sand
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The BC exam last year was such a scam bro

viscid hawk
vapid sand
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I got a 5 but they had a polar and two series on the frq

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They have a polar like once every five years and have like never had two series (albeit they always have one)

viscid hawk
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We didn't do much of that... not even in ap physics so

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proud leaf
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there's an annoying nerd on help 33 i just wanna block him

vapid sand
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And for like some other stuff

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does anyone have a clue on how my teacher probably intended for me to solve the last one?

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I understand how the easy way works, but he was very clear that we needed to understand how to apply limits/derivatives as well

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Makes no sense that the last question involves none of that

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uhh besides that, nope

proud leaf
vapid sand
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I can explain

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I think he probably wants you to obviously find the normal line which you first have to find the derivative to do, and he probably wants you to use that and then take the derivative again to find at what points it intersects the graph

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That’s probably the easiest way

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@viscid hawk how old even are you

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it says in my bio...

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I'm 19 😭

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You guys are just proving people on discord have trouble reading UmaruHuh

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oh, well, ig that's fair

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(not to diss you guys, just it's kinda amusing rn as I'm frustrated)

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Bruh

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I can't read either, I'm dyslexic and have dyscalculia too.

vapid sand
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lol it was mentioned when I first started this at like 4-5 hrs ago

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😭 5 hrs on homework...

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so the derivative at (-1,1)

proud leaf
vapid sand
# viscid hawk 😭 5 hrs on homework...

Don’t worry, I have to get up at 5 am to take an online class before my Japanese high school as I am in Japan on an exchange year and I don’t want to lose my math skills, so whatever your sleep schedule is trust me I got it worse lol

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plus, homework is due the day after he teaches us the last stuff

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to double check

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Well the calc part of the question is just taking the derivative at the point and then the inverse to find the normal line

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