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Idk how far I'm correct but if the lines are tangent to the sphere with center I, then shouldn't the perpendicular distances from I to the lines be equal ( equal to the radius )
ye as i said
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Can someone send me simple drawing of a graph edge being partitioned to form cycles
Just a drawing, i dont need help with the proof.
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You can just do that?
I thought a partition always must have a straight cut
Okay thanks
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Alright
Thanks alot
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heyo! i wrote my question in purple
As you wrote, for x-1, the domain of the function f(x-1) would be x > 4 and x <= 4. This also applies to the integral: x-1 requires 1 unit more than x, x requires 1 unit less than x-1, meaning the bounds 8 and 2 (for x-1) goes to 7 and 1 (for x).
Your method is to move the gap. Their method is to move the overall function (indicated by the change of bounds).
woa so there's 2 paths?
1/1, 2/2, 3/3, etc. gives the same value.
what i understood is moving the bounds is also changing the gap in a way?
More the opposite, when you change the gap, you also changes the bounds.
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So I'm super unsure if I am even thinking in the right direction about this, I understand that a+b sqrt5 times the denominator should equal the numerator so I try factoring them but end up with something that looks nothing like it and I'm unsure if I even did it correctly?
a= -7 , b= -3
hmm, try multiplying the left hand side by the conjugate of the denominator 
ah, please don't give any answers away 
better not gave the answer
Sorry lol
the logic here is that if you do so, the denominator will reduce to a single number, which you can divide all the terms in the numerator by
one of the terms in the numerator will contain a coefficient and a sqrt(5)
yeah i already saw the answer on google, im more interested in understanding how to get there
the others can be grouped together and labelled "a"
also conjugate would basically be flipping the positives to negatives and the negatives to positives right?
no
Also multiplying it out is quite inefficient
the conjugate of a + bsqrt(5) is a - bsqrt(5)
multiplying both the denominator by its conjugate lets you take advantage of the difference of squares formula
(a + b)(a - b) = a^2 - b^2
this'll cut the denominator down to a single number (no square roots), which is why it's desirable to do this 
let me know if something is unclear 
I have no problem going through this again c:
system of equations and let’s go
you probably won't even need a system of equations here 
):
if im understanding right then i would be turning the left side into this? i mightve misunderstood still though
oh yeah duh
(a - b)(a + b) = a^2 - b^2 
uhh, hm. how did you get 5sqrt(5)?
honestly not sure, it should be 3sqrt(5) shouldnt it?
or am i still missing something?
okay lol, sorry my brain obviously isnt working at full capacity rn
so then once i have this do i need to do anything else to it?
when you say simplify it is this where i would wanna use long division for it or is there a different way im not thinking of?
what's the denominator? 
I promise you we don't need to long divide 
OHHHH its one
it's -1
but even if it was 8712 or something, it wouldn't matter
,, \frac{a + b}{c} = \frac{a}{c} + \frac{b}{c}
higher!
because we can always do this!
in our case, it just happens to be a very simple number c:
so that would make this true then?
a couple of comments
- you should simplify the numerator as much as possible before breaking the fraction apart

- it's -1, not 1

ugh youre so right, i keep making simple little hiccups bc im overwhelmed which probably means i should take a break soon but this is what you mean then i think?
don't sweat it too much. make sure to give yourself enough breaks in between math, because it can be really stressful

your work looks great!
now just rewrite it a little and identify what a and b are :>
ohhhh okay so them being over the negative one just makes them negative and since they are over one they dont need to be changed so thats how a=-7 and b=-3 then?
looks great! 
so in the future with problems like this i should just multiply the top and bottom by the conjugate of the denominator and then simplify to solve from there?
awesome!!! thank you so much, i really appreciate the hand
off to rest my brain a lil
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Can someone explain to me why the lamps flash? When unloading and unloading the capacitor? Does this have anything to do with the fact that lamps are not ideal R?
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we don't understand the question
and we are lazy to use translator
Can someone explain to me why the lamps glow briefly?
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hi
Could you perhaps translate the question?
Then pls translate it
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Hi I wanted help on the following question
I know it's discrete probability. But idk if I should just use trial and error to find n from the binomial distribution.
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Hi, the task was: sketch the graph of the derivative function f′ of the given function f. The red sketch is from me, is my solution correct?
reading comprehension moment
okay
so like f(½) to f(2) its increasing
so f'(x)>0
not <0 as you've depicted
same for f(2) to f(4)
if you want the precise value for f' just calculate the slope using the point formula
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Can I pls have some help
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find the movement of their center of mass
Im a bit confused
where?
well, as the cats move away from the post, the center of mass is gonna shift
and once the cats move sufficiently apart, they would have shifted that com such that it lies outside the 0.5m wide section that rests on the post
and would make it unstable
oh
soo how do i calculate dis..
assume that the unstable situation occurs when the cats have moved some distance x
write the center of mass equation
solve for x
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can someone help me with factorization? i can't wrap my head around these 2 questions 💔
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oh ioops wrong place
4?
yes
ive never done double functions before so i have no idea how to do this
if you have that some function g has a double root r, then g(r) = 0 and g'(r) = 0
have you done calculus
derivatives to be specific
no, im in 11th class
our sir said this is done by quadratic equations and inequalities
yeah we can do that
this is a really weird question, there are multiple correct answers
there shouldnt be this was integer type qs so only 1 ans
i found two examples of f where the discriminants are different and they seem to satisfy all the conditions
how did you do it?
oh you just graphed it
huh
maybe the question is wrong
how would we do this by hand though
answer key only says 4 @hot tide
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Can someone help pls.I did it this way but I'm not sure if it's correct. What point in the hour does the fluidity of the body collapse linearly according to the law S=t^3-16t^2+64t (S - in meters, t - in seconds) before zero?
if you want S(t)'s derivative (the slope of the line) not to change at a certain point
isn't that S''(t) = 0 instead
I don't get what the fluidity of the body means at all
sorry not corectly write the question
At what point in time is the velocity of a body moving rectilinearly according to the law
S=t^3−16t^2+64t (where
S is in meters and t is in seconds) equal to zero?
ohhhhh okay that makes much more sense
yes then I can just check the quadratic since that's correct
(you wrote -16t instead of -16t^2 btw for S(t))
(3t - 8)(t - 8) = 0, yep, all is good
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can someone check if I did 8. b) correct?
my working out is in purple pen (sorry for the mess)
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why did it get mult by 1/3?
isnt that only applicable for tan^-1 condition?
Why
i mean , i might be missing something
I count arccos and arcsin
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I need help with part b
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
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I dont know how to start
Okay, you can start by modelling the demand as given, say $X \sim \text{Poisson} (\lambda = 15)$
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X is the number of newspapers needed on a particular day
So if t is the number of copies needed you need to find t such that P[X = t] >= 0.99
@tacit nest That make sense?
i got the poisson lamda
i dont get this part
X is the number of copies in demand, I think you get that part
yes
I am introducing a variable t, which is the number of copies we need
ok
So if we want to satisfy demand we need X = t
My bad I shouldn't have used an inequality
And the probability of this is ATLEAST 0.99
i get the inequality
So we have P[X = t] >= 0.99
at least means it must be greater than or equal to
Yeah
That's what we're doing
Also t is the minimum which is why there's an equality inside the P[]
Do you know the pmf for the Poisson distribution?
what does PMF stand for
probability mass function
I use my calculator to find poisson, I got a CG50
I dont know
Well I guess you can just guess and keep tweaking your answer
Chuck in a few numbers and see the smallest one such that the probability is over 0.99
gimme me a sec
is it 25?
but its less than 0.99
thats 23
Result:
0.99170020589953
24 is above it
oh does your calculator say 24 is below
,w 1 - (15^24)e^(-15)/(24!)
¯_(ツ)_/¯
what calculator do you have?
Just using this one lol
ok
In my school there was another method which i just found
thank you for your help, I understand the concept of the question more
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dont tell me what to do or anything
just a hint
nothing more
i wanna have fun with this problem cuz i have fckin failed for 2 hours now
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not an equation
guessing it = 0
cause there is 4^x in there too
take 4^x common
first term will have ((e/2)^x)^2
t^2
oh ok
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BRO this question hurting my head, wdym its (e/2)^2 = t, may i know your thought proccess behind this what observation made you think this, cant u just break down the 4^x to 2^2x
,tex .exp rules
riemann
power of power and 4 = 2^2
wait
funny thing is this question requires theese rules only
and lns
ok
the fist term doesnt have 2^x in common
multiply divide
2^2x in first term
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I did the first part, but I don’t see any connection with the second part
I should understand it like: $x’=x_{n+1}$ and $x=xn$? Then what should be $f{n+1}$ and $f_n$? Also $f’$ and $f$?
Aruseq
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@livid pier you know euler's method for numerically solving DEs right ?
yup, I do
yeah so we're trying to solve some 1st order DE $\dot x = f(t,x)$ with this method
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1st derivative is allowed to depend on time and the function itself, that's what the DE means in english
and to get an approximate solution to that DE with euler's method, you need
- an initial condition x(t0) = x0
- a time step h
and then we'll be computing approximations of x(t0+h), x(t0+2h), x(t0+3h), ...etc on time step after the other
these approximations we call them x1, x2, x3, ...etc for each time step, one approx value of x
can you explain how we get from one time step to the next in euler's method then ? [just use your words or your notation first if you want, then I can translate to the notation used in your exercise]
so in my example I probably should get $x$ from $x'=x+t$, it would be:
$x(t)=Ce^t-t-1$
using $x(t_0)=x_0$ I can get C
and in Euler's method I would get:
$y_{n+1}=y_{n}+hf(t_n,y_n)=y_n+hy_n$
Aruseq
and in their notation f_n is just f(tn, yn) really
hmmm.... okay.
\so I have $x(t)=Ce^t-t-1$
\and in the first step I can calculate
\$f_0=x_0+t_0$
\then I get:
\$y_1=x_0+hf_0$
\and now I can use it for:
\$f_1=y_1+t_1=y_1+t_0+h$ and
\$x_1=x_0+h/2(f_0+f_1)$
Aruseq
smth like that?
yeah well be careful you're mixing the x and ys, there's just xs here, should have paid more attention to that
otherwise yes
we aren't solving for two functions, there's only one function we're trying to find and we call it x
so what does your y1 mean then ?
I wrote it: y_1=x_0+h*f_0
that's the euler's method 1st approximated point ok
why are you reusing it in the trapezoid rule computation tho ?
they're two seperate methods
one important thing about the trapezoid rule is that it's an implicit method
$x_{n+1} = x_{n} + \frac{h}{2}(f_n + f_{n+1})$
aPlatypus
the thing is f_n+1 also depends on x_n+1 in general
so it's not as straightforward as just using the last point like you do in euler's methods
you actually have to solve an equation to get x_n+1 out of this
that's what they mean by finding an explicit formula for x_n+1
it's not completely immediate what it is
I dont know if its that hard or I just cant get in intuitively, for what can't even do it 😭
there's a lot of moving parts that's all
yeah... I see
so we have $f_n = f(t_n, x_n)$, $f_{n+1} = f(t_n + h, xn+1)$
aPlatypus
yeah, at least I get this part xd
if you use f(t, x) = x+t [from the equation the question is about] what do you get for these two guys
Do you want me to just substitute?
\$f_n=x_n+t_n$
\$f_{n+1}=x_{n+1}+t_n+h$
Aruseq
yes exactly
now if you plug these two guys in the trapezoidal rule iteration what do you get ?
$x_{n+1}=x_n+h/2*(x_{n+1}+x_n+2t_n+h)$
Aruseq
yep exactly
as I said earlier x(n+1) is on both sides of the equation
that's what makes this method implicit [instead of explicit like euler's method]
at least here the example is nice enough that you can solve easily for x(n+1) in terms of everything else
should I do it?
well that's what the question asks of you
"find an explicit formula"
how to compute x(n+1) in terms of the previous data
okaaay, I thought explicit means without x_n xd then euler wouldnt be explicit either
so I get
\$x_{n+1}=\frac{2x_n+h(x_n+2t_n+h)}{2-h}$
Aruseq
it's just the starting point really, it's not that important overall
what you/the computer is gonna spend most time on is the iteration there
okay... so thats everything?
yeah
that's the formula you'd plug into your computer to get the next point from the previous one using the trapezoidal rule for that specific ODE given
ye ye, I get it
most times you can't even solve that equation algebraically like we just did
as wiki says
okay, I see it
thank you so so much for spending so much time here, it's priceless ♥
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This is math question from a CSEC Past Paper (Caribbean Secondary/High School Math).
The answer is as in the picture. I would like to know and for someone to go through with me how do we arrive in that answer.
I understand the concept (or think i do) of y = mx + c
y being the y value, x being the x value, m is the gradient and c is the y intercept. (please correct me if im wrong). But i just dont quite understand how the answer is C. Help is very appreciated thank you.
Hey! I still dont quite understand
you need to leave y alone to reach ur y=mx+c equation
you will try to make that equation look like y=mx+c basically
Hey! I still dont quite understand when it comes to this. Like where or how do i plug in the right figures etc.
you have 3x-7y-9=0
Yes
no plug ins, you will just change places of the numbers
we need y value to be by itself right?
so separating it and sending it to the other side you get 3x-9= 7y
Yes so it can be alone in y = mx + c
yes
Okay i understand that part
from -7y it becomes positive since we change sides
to a positive 7y
okk now we just need to get rid of the 7 in the front of y
exactly
any ideas how to do it
is the 3 in the equation representing the m in mx + c?
no not yet
the equation isnt there yet
?
we need to take the 7 and place it on the other side. However im unsure where to put it. Its suppose to be dividing something correct?
ok i understand that part
what are the steps we now need to take to get the gradient
now u use the mx+c=y formula
the m is ur answer
how do we use it then?
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Hold on
I believe i understand
Just let me piece it together
ok, ive come up with the answer to it. So its asking for the gradient. Which is m. Using that since we put 7 on the left side it becomes what you see in the picture, therefore making it 3/7. Which is the answer for the gradient
Is this correct?
If they asked for the c which is the y intercept it would be 9/7?
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find the derivative of log(sin^2(x)) wrt sin(x)
it was on an exam but none of the options could match my answer
what did you get?
1/sin^2(x) * 2sin(x)cos(x)
how did you get that?
that lets with 2/sinx
d(sin^2(x)) / d(sin(x))
sinx=t
Nah
dx/dt
i dont understand what you guys are hinting at
subtitution is your ally
what's the ques..?
reading is understimated
can you please first point out my mistake
because i remember learning it this way
and i want to know where i've gone wrong
send your work maybe ?
,, \frac{\dd}{\dd{sin^x}}\log(sin^2(x))
wrt sin(x) and not x
i didnt really have any steps i didnt show here
i just used chain rule
[
\frac{d}{d(\sin x)}\log(\sin^2 x)
]
Samuel
and consodering that it was wrt sinx
yes
[
\log(\sin^2 x) = 2 \log(\sin x)
]
Samuel
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yes
Ok so
yes
check the derivative again
.
2sin(x) * cos(x)
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Hello, is there anyone that can help me with quadratics, final is next week and I'm waiting for one neuron to like click and understand it. So please, anyone?
Do u have like specific questions
yes, in standard form, ax^{2}+bx+c if I remember right, what does the "b" veriable do. (as I may or may not forgot).
the 2 numbers that myltiply to c need to add up to b
may you explain furthermore please?
5 and 2
oh, ok thanks
no prob
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i need help with arithmetic in general
any specific question?
the exercice usually helps you with that
they give you the necessary steps to make it easier for you to solve it
but it depends in what type of equation
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Hi
I have a question regarding a mathematical philosophical question: Am I allowed to ask about this? It is regarding mathematical models and their usage
ask, at worst you get redirected
yay summer is here
Okay, so does anyone know anything about epistemic and non-epistemic values when you try to model something? It is related to for example mathematic modelings
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yes someone knows
just ask ur question
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whats the correct of order of operation when solving cosine law
r^2=650^2+550^2-2(650)(550)cos50?
the same as any other equation
im getting a different number though from what its suppoesd to be
not sure if i wrote down my notes wrong or what
show plz 
,calc 650^2+550^2
Result:
7.25e+5
,w 2(550)(650)cos(50 deg)
is that supposed to be 350 or 550
its 650 and 550
deg
u sure ur calc is in deg?
what answer are you getting?
.
that's your final answre? that's even more off
not my final
725000-247473.22
= 7002526.78
sus
how are you subtracting two 6-digit numbers and getting 7 million and change
did you do it by hand and screw it up
2(550)(650)cos50
does this not equal to 459593.1409??
u said it was this?? 😭
hold on so like, are we having a master class in how to use a calculator or what
yes that's the value of your expression
if this came from applying the law of cosines -- which it really looks like it did -- you'll want to take the square root of that in order to get back to the third side length.
that's still not the answer that was given in class
anyway...somebody is wrong
thanks
that'll be r^2
you're not quite done
assuming the end goal is to get r
what's the expected answer?
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Yea sorry....I just realized it's cos130 not cos50... I'm getting correct answer now thanks!
so close the chat
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Hi, i just joined this server, because i just finished my pre-calc class this year, i would like to start learning calculus for my own, does anyone have any recommendation of what i should learn or memorize as a beginner?
I would either use a textbook or Khan academy
okay, i currently have (Calculus by Larson Edward, the ninth edition), is that one okay?
Hello, I am new to the server and I am at the end of grade 8, anything that I could do for high school like topics (I am doing physics on khan academy atp but any math topics would be helpful and suggestions).
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Looks pretty good
thanks, also just in case, do i have to memorize all the basic derivatives and integrals, and if that is the case witch ones are the most relevants?
don't memorise. the best way to learn maths is by doing it so prioritise thinking deeply about a problem given what you've learned rather than try to memorise answers or formulas. knowing formulas from first principles is more powerful than just being able to recall without derivation
thanks
I would say that most students eventually do have them memorized, but start by deriving them with the definition
And as you do practice problems, you'll probably naturally memorize them
Someone help please.
thank you so much you two for the help, I'll just start with the textbook, to see how it goes. 👋
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where
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chatgpt can generate problems too
you can use those avobe the ones that say occupied, gook luck with physics
thanks you
physics aint that hard
good luck with calculus btw
is not, i took honors in high school and is mostly know some algebra
good bye to you all, and thank you
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how do i do a?
use the properties of the integral that you can split it up
water beam
what whys it equal c and a
bru
did they not teach you this
actually u dont even need to be taught this u can intuitively see for ur self why this is the case
why
yes
no calculator
just look
what happens if you add the area from a to b
then add the area from b to c
idk it gets bigger
..
oh then it goes from a to c
yes it is the same as the area from a to c
what about psrt ii
same property
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fundamental theorem of calculus would certainly help
F'(x) = f(x). integral of f(x) from a to b is F(a) - F(b)
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Can I get some help with a Janestreet Puzzle? It's just for fun so if somebody else needs help give them priority.
The 11-by-11 grid above is divided into several regions. Place positive digits (1-9) into the cells. Every cell within a region must contain the same digit, and orthogonally adjacent cells in different regions must have different digits.
After doing this, place some tiles into the grid. Tiles are represented by blacking out a cell, and no two tiles are allowed to share a common edge. When a tile is placed on a cell, it displaces the value (digit) in that cell. That means the orthogonally adjacent cells, collectively, must be incremented by that displaced value. (For instance, in the example the rightmost tile displaces a 5. That displaced 5 results in increments of 1 for the cells below and to the left of the tile, and an increment of 3 for the cell above it.)
Digits may not be incremented any higher than 9. Incrementing digits may cause neighboring cells from different regions to contain the same value – this is fine. Some cells have been highlighted: these cells may not contain tiles and may not be altered by any of the increments.
And finally! Each row has been supplied with a clue. Every number formed by concatenating consecutive groups of un-tiled cells within a row must satisfy the clue given for the row. (As in the example.) Numbers must be at least two digits long and may not repeat in the grid.
The answer to this month’s puzzle is the sum of all the numbers formed in the completed grid. (As in the example.)
they mention an example?
well what have you tried
they make it sound like you should be able to fill in all of the cells before placing tiles, but when you do this then the hints dont apply?
that doesnt make any sense to me
how are you supposed to know if youve placed them correctly or not without any other restriction
the approahc ive been taking is to place the tiles as you go
and sometimes u just bump into contradictions
Product 25/product 20 seems to be the restriction to look at first
right thats what i thought too but i didnt know where to go after that
like the (col, row) = (6, 6) could be a 1 or 5
*must be
hmm let me think i havent tried that yet
And hence can only push the extra value up
Obviously cannot have 1 digit numbers
right
C6
so we're assuming the left region starts with 5s?
If that region has 5s then this is a tile
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I can't think of a less brute force method to figure this out, anybody have any tips?
What even is the question
Make an equation to be able to do this faster
What is "this"
I'm trying to calculate what the new weeks total distance would be if a runner should be able to run the previous week's distance multiplied by 1.1 or 110%
Result:
1.61051
I can't think of a less brute force way other than to just do it manually
The operation you're looking for is called exponentiation
There are computer algorithms that calculate fast exponentiation
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So, Just to be clear...I am not in a quiz rn, this is me studying. And I need help because I don't understand why the other base is equal to x but on the right it's 15-x...why is it just x and not 15-x???
So is it because, x=part of 15, let's say 15=y+x? so y=15-x?
so the length of both bases combined is 15, and the length of the left base is x
so the length of the second base has to be 15 - x so that we can get 15 when we add em together
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Hi
$\frac{1}{\frac{a}{b}} = \frac{b}{a}$
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$\frac{1}{\frac{a}{b}} \cdot \frac{b}{b} = \frac{b}{a}$
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that's the proof
ohh
do you know what to do next?
nvm i dont get it @gloomy harness
${x}^2 - 1 = {x}^2 - 1^2 = (x+1)(x-1)$
Astar777
$3 - \frac{(x+1)(x-2)}{x^2-1}$
Astar777
$3 - \frac{(x+1)(x-2)}{(x+1)(x-1)}$
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where are you up to
ur js giving the answer..
i mean
he didnt get the previous hint
this was the next step
i didnt give more after that
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Hello
I want to find the continuity of the greatest integer function
using mathematical arguments
I have tabulated the graph, and observed that the graph breaks at integral variables
I do not wish to proceed with the diagram
There are two cases:
Case 1 is for interior points
Case 2 is for integral points
I can complete case 2 with ease, but I'm facing troubles with case 1
Please help
What are those interior points?. Points other than integral points?
Right, they are those points.
U know the graph right
I know the graph
There is no discontinuity in the graph at interior points.
Can you prove it mathematically?
Like not graphically
Right
Do you know the condition for continuity. Lhl=rhl=f(x)
I know it. Continuity at a point
Then use it
I need some help with the general expressions required to use it
Let a be any non integral number between n and n+1
Where n is an integer
Right
gif(a)=n
Lim h tends to 0 gif(a-h)=n
Since a-h is very close to a.(Only just smaller)
Right
Similarly lim h tends to 0 gif(a+h)=n
So this condition is satisfied.
What about the point just to the left of n+1
a+1??
Why are you looking into a+1?
The function isn't continuous at that point, intuitively
But there's no way to prove it using my basic mathematical knowledge
Forget about a+1
We just proved function is continuous at a
Where a is an interior point
You understood that part??
I made a typing error
Edit: What about the point just to the left of n+1
The function isn't continuous at that point, intuitively
But there's no way to prove it using my basic mathematical knowledge
It is an edge point
Depends on the function
Greatest integer function
Obviously it will be n
Like for example if u put n= 3
So left of n+1 will be 3
No, the discussion is about the point that lies just to the left of 4
The point which we can't locate
It's ans Will be 3 ofc
But, to the right the answer will be four
Yes
So, the limit does not exist at this theoretical point
It's greatest integer function so yeah
Do u know it's graph
See that u will understand
But books say there is only one kind of point of discontinuity
For this function
The integral points
But there is another kind: all points that lie just to the left of the integers
For them there actual no. Or integer will be answer
Like left of 4 and right of 3 all will get same answer 3
They are not the same kind of points
Right
Left of 4 makes the function discontinuous, as does 4 itself.
Discontinuity at integers
Discontinuity at points to the left of integers
A graph is a slow and imprecise form of mathematics
U will not get that without graph
it's kind of silly to completely eschew graphs though
@stark wedge what will graph of it
It's like leader (what's that called)
They start at integral points
it's like a staircase is how i would describe it.
Would you say that the function is discontinuous at points just to the left of the integers
No
discontinuous at integers
It's at integers as i said earlier
@stark wedge what do you think?
wdym "just to the left"?
Of course it is integers
,w plot floor(x) from x = -10 to 10
how far left?
The point that lies immediately to the left of the integer
It is a theoretical point
there's no such point in the real numbers that i know of
what is this point "immediately to the left of" 0, for example?
But what about the points that lie immediately to the left of the integers
I have assumed it exists
tell me what this point is called -- i don't know of one.
I don't know what it is yet
are you positing that there exists some number $u$ exists that $u < 0$ but there aren't any numbers between $u$ and $0$?
Ann
u/2 would like to know your location
I assume that the number is indivisible
I am thinking of it to be like an indivisible subatomic particle
Let this number be the only number that cannot be divided further
and every number lies at u distance from the neighbouring number
so you assume that some numbers cannot be divided by 2...?
this is no longer real numbers you're talking about
there are no subatomic particles in the reals!
are you serious or joking @river adder
I am assuming that it cannot be divided by any number greater than 1
Serious ig
Ok I'll take it as a joke
well you can assume anything you want if you are ok staying in fantasy land
aight off to #serious-discussion we go
If you keep on probing you will finally hit an indivisible quantity. I am not sure if the indivisible quantity will always stay the same...
It is natural
Why isn't there a branch of mathematics that makes this assumption?
dude it's not even true in rational numbers
Mathematics is supposed to mirror the physical world
no math is made up jargon for lunatics
I say that mathematics needs rethinking
it just so happens to sometimes approximately describe the physical world
something is happening? its time to investigate
But assuming that such a point exists, the function is discontinuous at two types of points
hey do you want to hear something crazy
What are you going to talk about?
wtf is happening here
@cunning ruin there are such things as sets that have no beginning nor end, but are bounded
these are an unfortunate consequence of infinite sets
there are even sets with no meaningful measure of length too
for example, consider the set of proper fractions

Tell me first what do u mean when u say function is continuous at this point
for any number you can name, you can divide it by 2 and get a smaller number

