#precalculus

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echo wagon
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It should say something like for all
epsilon > 0

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But if you are doing precalc, the limit definition should be sufficient...

leaden jewel
willow bear
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not once did i mention epsilon or delta

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(f(x)-f(0))/x has a limit as x goes to zero and that limit is 0

leaden jewel
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I don't get it
how do you get that limit for the function bounces from one point to the other

willow bear
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you can apply the squeeze theorem

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that's the easiest way to show that this limit exists

leaden jewel
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okay i'll see that

noble plume
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does anyone know how to do this?

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I know how to do it with just the arcsin, but I'm confused now that arccos was added it

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*in

sick steppe
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$\tan(\theta-\varphi)$ and use compound angle

obsidian monolithBOT
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moshill1

sick steppe
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@noble plume

kindred bluff
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With the arccos function, you can refer to that as if it was a cosine function but instead of the angle being the value, you just put the adjacent over the hypotenuse ratio.

noble plume
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tan(theta - p) and use compound angle?

sick steppe
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yes

noble plume
sick steppe
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since you can easily find what tan(sin^1(4/5)) and tan(cos^-1(5/13)) is

kindred bluff
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It really depends on the angle

noble plume
sick steppe
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yes, then use compound angle for tan(A-B)

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$\tan(A-B)=\frac{\tan(A)-\tan(B)}{1+\tan(A)\tan(B)}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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moshill1

noble plume
leaden jewel
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$\arcsin \frac{4}{5}=\arctan \frac{4}{3}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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osmium

leaden jewel
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$\arccos \frac{5}{13}=\arctan \frac{12}{13}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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osmium

leaden jewel
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$\arctan(A)-\arctan(B)=\arctan\frac{A-B}{1+AB}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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osmium

leaden jewel
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then you can apply this formula which you can derive by yourself
and since both the angles lie in first quadrant you can simply plug in the values

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just letting you know this

noble plume
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I don't really have a grasp on any of these rip

grave tartan
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Draw a diagram for 6

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For 7, Solve for sin(Īø) and use double angles

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  1. Split cos^2(2x) into cos(2x)*cos(2x)
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  1. Use half angles
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@noble plume if you don’t know there identities you should learn them

noble plume
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a,b, and c

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trying to do 8 atm

grave tartan
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Good work

noble plume
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I'm sorry for bothering u, but do you have any idea what property I need to look up for #8?

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I've been searching, and still can't find it rip

grave tartan
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It’s all good

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Do you know any double angles?

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Double angles are just nice angle sum ones

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Like $\cos^2{2x}$ is just $\cos{2x}\cdot\cos{2x}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AyeWaddup

grave tartan
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And $\cos{2x}=\cos{(x+x)}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AyeWaddup

grave tartan
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Plug that into the cos sum identity you get $\cos^2(x)-\sin^2(x)$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AyeWaddup

grave tartan
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Which can also be written as $2\cos^2(x)-1$ or $1-2\sin^2(x)$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AyeWaddup

grave tartan
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Using the Pythagorean trig identity

noble plume
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tysm!

noble plume
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isn't the cos supposed to be to the first power

viscid thistle
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Yo anyone in here able to help me with a question

dim rampart
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If you had posted the question, sure.

pure dragon
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hate to ask, but does anyone understand limits with square roots lol?
i can't seem to understand when the sign is supposed to be positive or negative depending on the where the square root is and which infinite its going to

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@here

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i believe i can break it down to:
sqrt ( 1 - 0 ) divided by 3 + 0

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but i don't understand how to radical affects the sign of the equation as well as the limit to infinity

bitter nova
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for square roots just apply it to the highest term

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so like the top is approximately x^4

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because sqrt(x^8)

pure dragon
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sqrt(x^8) = x^4

bitter nova
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yea

pure dragon
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how come sometimes it becomes like: x^2 = - sqrt (x^4)

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let me see if i can find an example

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@bitter nova

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even tho x^5 = sqrt(x^10) --> why does it become negative?? is that because we're finding the limit to negative infinity

bitter nova
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that's a really weird way lol

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x^5= - sqrt(x^10) because the square root is always positive

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and a negative to the 5th power is negative, so you add a minus to make the signs the same

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I'd look at it as a minus sign from the x^5 on top, even though that explanation puts it on the bottom

pure dragon
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by adding a negative in front of the sqrt, it makes it negative i understand, but ig my question is why am i adding the negative

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because the sqrt is in the denom??

bitter nova
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uh it's trying to divide by x^5

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and to convert it to something similar to the bottom you make it like sqrt(x^10)

pure dragon
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because they're equal

bitter nova
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but x^5 is negative so you add a minus sign

pure dragon
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is there a rule as to why x^5 is negative? would x to the power of an even make it positive?

bitter nova
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x^5 is negative because it's a limit to negative infinity

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and 5 is odd

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square root is sort of ambiguous because like 2 times 2 equals -2 times -2

pure dragon
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then how come in the previous example i posted it was to the negative infinite but i didn't make the sqrt neative

bitter nova
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but we chose the sqrt(x) notation to always be positive

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the one before had a 3x^4

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this one is x^5

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like in the end all you need to know is the sign of the final limit

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so like x^5/sqrt(...) is negative for x-> -inf

pure dragon
bitter nova
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and sqrt(...)/3x^4 is positive for x-> -inf

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yea x^5 goes negative for x<0

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x,x^3,x^5,x^7... work like that

pure dragon
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thats a pattern i noticed, when x < 0 ... the y was negative

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when the power was odd

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so when the power is odd and i'm going to the negative infinite, then my sqrt will be negative

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right?

bitter nova
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no

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the negative came from the x^5

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and it divided it into the fraction

pure dragon
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x^13 going to negative infinite would give a negative sign in the fraction because x<0 gives negative values for y

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but if the exponent is even then any value would be positive, keeping the fraction positive

bitter nova
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yea

fleet yew
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x¹³

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χ¹³

pure dragon
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how did u superscript in discord??

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@fleet yew

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lol, just wondering

grave tartan
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Specific Keyboard

granite crescent
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hi

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um i need help with a question

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so i have to determine the value of x

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for sin 8pi/23 =sinx

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however the catch is that x≠8pi/23

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so idk how to solve that

fleet yew
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@pure dragon these are unicode characters

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But my phone keyboard just has them

pure dragon
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gotcha

noble plume
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does anyone know how to make it so that the cos^2(2x) is written to the 1st power

dark sky
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i dont know how to do this

late mica
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@noble plume Do you know about power reducing formulas? The power reduction for cos is (1+cos(2x))/2

noble plume
noble plume
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would this just be cos(5.3), or is the angle something different?

late mica
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@noble plume I'm not quite sure what that one is asking...It just looks like something that would need to be evaluated, so I'm not really sure. Maybe it's talking about trigonometric form?

noble plume
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maybe, I don't know either rip

late mica
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@granite crescent This seems like a rotational type of question...For example, say you're solving sin π = sin x, but x can't equal π. If you simply add a full rotation, you're now at 3 π (because a full rotation is 2 π). So, x = 3 π in this case, which would make it at the same angle, but rotationally different so not actually π. Does this help?

viscid thistle
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can someone help me convert r=6cos(2Īø)sin(2Īø) to rectangular form and explain the process?

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i know how to convert polar to rectangular but the 2Īø is really getting me

willow bear
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no no no moshill don't you know, it's 5.30000000000000004

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(/j)

noble plume
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lol

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someone, please help my with 6 and 9

steel venture
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for 6 you can use sohcahtoa

noble plume
steel venture
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yes

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the arcsin(x/y) means that sin(theta) where theta has sides x and y as opposite and hypotenuse (respectively)

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so in this case

narrow helm
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I have a question : how can I find the derivative of the cubic function from the square function ?

steel venture
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4 is the side opposite and 5 is the hypotenuse

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so 3 would be the final leg

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and so we have a 345 right triangle

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which have specific angles

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the same idea holds for arccos(5/13)

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so for sohcahtoa we have cah

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so arccos(x/y) yields x as the adjacent and y as the hypotenuse

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so we have a 5 12 13 triangle

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which has specific angles which you can find

jolly raven
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?

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@narrow helm like $x^3$?

obsidian monolithBOT
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visual of Petter's ascendance

noble plume
steel venture
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the way i did it feels wrong though

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are you allowed to use a calculator at all?

noble plume
steel venture
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yeah so what i just said probably wont work hold on

noble plume
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rip 😭

steel venture
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@noble plume ah

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you might be able to use the double angle formula for tan

noble plume
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I'm not using a right triangle to solve it if I do that though right

viscid thistle
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what is this called in math ? An amount ?${āˆ’2≤x≤2,āˆ’2≤y≤4}$

obsidian monolithBOT
steel venture
narrow helm
jolly raven
# narrow helm Yes

Well you can use the definition of a derivative to find it, $\dv{x} f(x) =\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h}$$

obsidian monolithBOT
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visual of Petter's ascendance

Well you can use the definition of a derivative to find it, $\dv{x} f(x) =\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(x+h) - f(x)}{h}$$
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pure dragon
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lim x—>5
((2/x+3)-1/4)/x-5

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I can find it with a calculator easily ig but I wanna know why it equals -1/32

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Algabraically

viscid thistle
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yeah so

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have you tried doing anything at all to try to find the answer?

pure dragon
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Bunch of stuff that’s wrong I think but yeah

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My scratchpad is messy šŸ˜…

viscid thistle
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really don't know what you did

pure dragon
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Ik

viscid thistle
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but do you have any ideas on how you can algebraically manipulate the numerator in any way?

pure dragon
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I can’t plug in the limit because it equals out to 0/0

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I mean ā€œdirect substitutionā€

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I’ll use the right terminology

viscid thistle
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yeah that's the first thing you usually want try out when encountering a limit.

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but i'm not talking about that

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i'm talking about algebraic manipulation.. are you able to come up with any ideas to algebraically manipulate the numerator?

pure dragon
viscid thistle
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,rccw

obsidian monolithBOT
pure dragon
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When I multiply 2/x+3, does that multiply the denominator by (x+3) as well?

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Honestly, I think I’m probably going about this the wrong way.

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Bots...

viscid thistle
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<@&268886789983436800>

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ty

stuck lark
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ty

pure dragon
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Ty guys

echo wagon
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That was wild

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Almost felt like doing crack

pure dragon
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Nvm

viscid thistle
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no, you want to make mathematically valid steps, and you can't just multiply $\frac{2}{x+3}-\frac14$ by $x+3$ just because you want to. yes, the idea you had is what we want, to do common denominator, but that is not how we want to do it. instead of pulling out a $(x+3)$ in the numerator out of nowhere, think of multiplying essentially by 1, which is mathematically valid step as you are not changing the value of the expression by multiplying it by 1. Focusing only on the numerator we have: $$\frac{2}{x+3}\cdot \overbrace{\color{green}{\frac44}}^{1}-\frac14\cdot \overbrace{\color{blue}{\frac{x+3}{x+3}}}^{1}$$ and this way you can use $\frac{a}{b}+\frac{c}{b}=\frac{a+c}{b}$ to do common denominator.

pure dragon
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2-1 over (x-5)(x+3)(4)

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

pure dragon
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I’ve never really been good at working with fractions like that. Where you have multiple fractions in the same equation

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But thank you for taking the time to explain it to me

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Making the numerator have common denominators makes more sense to me anyways than what my friend tried to explain

viscid thistle
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i'm glad to hear

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now, are you able to simplify: $$\frac{2}{x+3}\cdot {\color{green}{\frac44}}-\frac14\cdot {\color{blue}{\frac{x+3}{x+3}}}$$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

pure dragon
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8/4x+12 — x+3/4x+12

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Now they have common denominators

viscid thistle
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good job.

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but use proper parenthesis () to indicate what's the numerator and denominator, like this:
8/( 4x+12***)*** -( x+3***)/(*** 4x+12***)***

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in plain text, \verb|a+b/c| actually implies $a+\frac{b}{c}$ instead of $\frac{a+b}{c}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

viscid thistle
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and now, try to simplify further from: $$\frac{8}{4x+12}-\frac{x+3}{4x+12}$$ considering once again $\frac{a}{c}+\frac{b}{c}=\frac{a+b}{c}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

pure dragon
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It’d be (8 - x + 3) / (4x + 12)

viscid thistle
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almost.

pure dragon
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Would I simplify by plugging in the 5

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5+3 = 8

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8 - 8 / (4(5)) + 12)

viscid thistle
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be very careful with the $\color{red}{-}$ in front of the second fraction, this is actually a very common mistake in algebra and you may want to start avoiding it now: $$\frac{8}{4x+12}{\color{red}{-}}\frac{x+3}{4x+12}$$ $$\frac{8{\color{red}{-}}(x+3)}{4x+12}$$

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your mistake was not putting () around x+3, in short.

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

pure dragon
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Now it turns into: (8-(x+3)) ÷ (4x² -8x - 60)

viscid thistle
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wait why is it 4x²-8x-60?

pure dragon
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Doesn’t this still have the x - 5 underneath it?

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Because we only make the numerators have common denominators

pure dragon
viscid thistle
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$\lim_{x\to 5}\frac{\frac{8-(x+3)}{4x-12}}{x-5}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

pure dragon
viscid thistle
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when writing up the actual steps remember to always add the "lim" part until you've actually evaluated the limit.

viscid thistle
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are you able to simplify 8-(x+3)?

pure dragon
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Well the x would be 5, so (5+3) - 8 = 0

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That’s not what it needs to equal

viscid thistle
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ok i see what you're doing, whenever you are doing simplification, usually you want to keep it as (x-5)(4x+12).

pure dragon
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ok, so i shouldn't simplify that much

viscid thistle
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no, it's about leaving it in the form that is more easily simplifiable.

pure dragon
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(8-(x+3))/(5-5)(20+12) -->

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(8-(x+3))/32

viscid thistle
pure dragon
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it's 8 - (x+3) with x being 5 which simplifies to zero.

viscid thistle
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yeah. +3

pure dragon
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8 - (5+3) ==> 0

viscid thistle
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don't go too quick.

pure dragon
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ok

viscid thistle
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simplify isn't plug in 5

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please try simplifying algebraically 8-(x+3)

pure dragon
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Ahhhh

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it turns into 8-x+3 because there is a -1 in front of the parenthesis

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i completely forgot about that lol

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is that what you're talking about

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so it's -x +5

viscid thistle
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no, be aware of distributing - properly, 8-(x+3)=8-x-3=5-x

viscid thistle
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reminding you what we have right now:

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$\lim_{x\to 5}\frac{\color{green}{-x+5}}{{\color{green}{(x-5)}}(4x+12)}$

pure dragon
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(-x+5)/((x-5)(4x+12))

obsidian monolithBOT
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AlšŸ›dium

pure dragon
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idk how to write in the language for the bot

viscid thistle
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can you notice something?

pure dragon
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they're going to cancel out aren't they

viscid thistle
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yeah, it will end up cancelling but right now we can't.

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(-x+5)/(x-5) isn't exactly 1

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can you algebraically manipulate (-x+5) in a certain way so that we can cancel it with (x-5)?

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let me emphasise this:

pure dragon
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-1(x-5)

viscid thistle
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oh yeah.

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good job.

pure dragon
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Whoops, wrong sign

viscid thistle
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are you able now to cancel and plug in 5?

pure dragon
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Yeah, which leaves -1/32. The answer we’re looking for

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Because 4(5)+12 = 32

viscid thistle
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right.

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good job.

pure dragon
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Sorry for taking sm time and having you guide me thru it but it really means a lot to me

viscid thistle
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for the record, i'd recommend reviewing algebra specifically fractions/manipulating them, you are going to need them.

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don't be sorry for taking time, that's totally fine, you're welcome.

noble plume
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do I use the power reducing formula for 8?

noble plume
# noble plume

also, I solved #9, but I'm not sure if the sin, cos, and tan are + or -

viscid thistle
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is complex numbers regarding modulus and argument considered precalculus?

stuck lark
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yes

noble plume
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These are what I got for 8 and 9

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I'm not sure if I got either one correct, actually think I got both incorrect

tired star
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hi i really need help i’m failing my math class rn and there’s 3 weeks left of school and i’m a senior and it’s the only thing that’s gonna stop@me from graduating

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does anyone have a help video or soemthing that can help me with this

sick steppe
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Quiz 2 holothink

tired star
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yeah i’m not asking anyone to do it for me i just need a tutorial video or something so i can do it myself

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if it matters that much i’ll just send a different problem on a hw assignment

lone acorn
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Search up fundamental theorem of calculus formula

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Is this for 2?

boreal crag
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So for the quotation rule right?

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in the formula of

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Can you use v and u interchangeably

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forexample for the question such as

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can x-1 be v as well instead of x+1

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Wait so in the proof, it was using turning the denominator into v(x)^-1 which means that the denominator must be the v

serene heath
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yes the bottom function is v

muted steeple
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hey, can anyone help me figure out how to get the equation for the parabola from the graph?

willow bear
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can you show the graph?

daring drum
# muted steeple hey, can anyone help me figure out how to get the equation for the parabola from...

I'd use vertex form, y = a(x - h)^2 + k. You know where the vertex is, at the point (h, k). You know where a is positive or negative based on whether the parabola curves upwards or downwards respectively. The only annoying part is figuring out a, which you can do by plugging in x = h+1 (whatever h is). You know which y value this should be equal to from the graph, and you'll get a very nice equation which tells you a in terms of y and k.

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(then if you need to convert from vertex form back to standard ax^2 + bx + c form, just FOIL (x-h)^2 and simplify)

viscid thistle
potent drift
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any self-learnining course you know is good? edx, coursera, udemy?

clever pecan
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I personally like coursera

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it has a lot of free courses

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(not everything is free though)

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udemy has more paid courses than coursera, but the quality is good

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however, I'm not familiar with edx, I'll check it out

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@potent drift

potent drift
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I have signed up for two in EdX - algebra-like there seem to be more (or at least more structured!) - let me know if you see any interesting @clever pecan pls

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thx for the suggestion

clever pecan
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np!

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šŸ‘

pure dragon
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Do the negative three in the numerator and denominator cancel out first?

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Plugging in equals zero so direct substitution doesn’t work

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<@&286206848099549185>

pure dragon
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I need to take the derivative first but can someone explain the how and why?

mild swan
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This leads to L'Hopital's Rule

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Note: when differentiating the numerator, expand the polynomial and use the power rule

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@pure dragon this help?

sick steppe
solemn flame
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How can I graph this

jolly raven
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First I'd find x intercepts and y intercept

bold fiber
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Can anyone help with this please?

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I tried evaluating it and trying to simplify it but its even more complicated, any tips?

mild swan
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not legible unfortunately

bold fiber
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@mild swan it's the limit as x approaches infinity of $$x^2\left(e^{2/x}-e^{2/(x+1)}\right)$$

obsidian monolithBOT
mild swan
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āˆž * 0 situation i see

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maybe bring the x^2 in the numerator into a 1/x^2 in the denominator and try lhopitals

bold fiber
mild swan
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rip

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hmm

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can you maybe look at the exponents, create common denominators, and then factor?

bold fiber
mild swan
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if you try to rewrite 2/x and 2/(x+1) so they have the same denominator, then maybe you can factor something out

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like rewrite 2/x as $\frac{2x+2}{x^2 + x}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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Lighthearted Sand Crab

mild swan
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and like rewrite 2/(x+1) as $\frac{2x}{x^2 + x}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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Lighthearted Sand Crab

mild swan
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Maybe you can factor out an $e^{\frac{1}{x^2+x}}$

obsidian monolithBOT
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Lighthearted Sand Crab

mild swan
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i have no idea

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lemme try this myself

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wait, what if you split it up into two limits

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distribute the x^2

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not working for me

bold fiber
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Same! this is really confusing

mild swan
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idk which grows/decreases faster: x^2 or e^(1/x)

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tempted to use lhopitals or desmos bu there's gotta be a way

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what was the original problem?

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got a picture?

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wait nvm lol it was just evaluate the limit

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were you given any other information?

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Anyway, the result will definitely be positive since $e^{\frac{1}{x}} > e^{\frac{1}{x+1}}$ as x goes to infinity.

obsidian monolithBOT
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Lighthearted Sand Crab

bold fiber
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from desmos, the limit equals 2 but i can't figure out any way to come up with such result

bold fiber
mild swan
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oof

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probably lhopitals

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that's the only way i can think of doing this limit

past meadow
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double angle formula for sin in reverse

dim rampart
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3sin(10x), you should then get.

tough robin
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what is the square root of -1+\sqrt(3i)

tough robin
viscid thistle
# tough robin

so there are two ways you could do this:
#1 set sqrt( -1+ sqrt(3)i ) = a+bi, square both sides, match real and imaginary parts to make a system of equations, and solve for a and b
#2 convert -1+sqrt(3)i to polar form, then halve the argument and take the square root of the modulus to get a new number in polar form which you then convert back to rectangular (a+bi) form

past meadow
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ugh thats ugly you'll have to figure out sqrt(3i) in rectangular form first

viscid thistle
past meadow
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sqrt(3i)

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not sqrt(3)i

viscid thistle
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oh

past meadow
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i was calling the question ugly

viscid thistle
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my bad

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misread

past meadow
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so yeah the method is to use one of dans methods to get sqrt(3i) then you have sqrt(-1+whatever that is) which you'll have to use one of those methods again to find

rich grotto
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Can someone show how to quadratic equations difference of squares

sick steppe
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,rotate

obsidian monolithBOT
red sky
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I need help on how to graph an ellipse

lime sequoia
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@late gull do you know the sum angle formulas?

late gull
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no i forget

viscid thistle
#

anyone in here able to help me with a question

willow bear
viscid thistle
willow bear
#

okay this algebra so far is correct

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except, since it looks like you want the \textbf{general} solution, you'll need to write $$3x = \tan^{-1}(2) + k\pi, \quad k \in \bZ$$

viscid thistle
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I dont know how to find all the x's

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
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I understand that

willow bear
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so

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you have 3x = (number)

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youre literally 1 step away

viscid thistle
#

but there are multiple x's

willow bear
#

yes, and?

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does that somehow create a magical forcefield in front of you that's stopping you from dividing both sides by 3?

steel raft
faint basin
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f(3+x)=(3+x)^2= 9+6x+x^2 f(3)=9 => the limit goes to 0 is (6x+x^2)/x

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that is 0/0, we can apply l'hopital and we get lim 6+2x/1 which is 6

stray hedge
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guys

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how would u solve this?

faint basin
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integrating the second derivative will get you the first order derivative and you can find the constant as you have those conditions there

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after you found the first derivative you integrate again, find the constant and thats ur f(x)

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integration goes brr

stray hedge
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ahh ok

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ty

faint basin
#

np

echo condor
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I have something like this but i feel that tan7theta does not equal y/x because that would be tan theta

serene heath
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try multiplying both sides of that equation by r then converting to cartesian @echo condor

echo condor
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so rtanr=rtan7theta

serene heath
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i meant r=7theta

echo condor
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so then r^2=7rtheta

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and then x^2+y^2=7rtheta

serene heath
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sorry for some reason i thought that was sin theta on the right there

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youre kinda almost there youll have sqrt(x^2+y^2) on the left and u know theta is arctan(y/x)+kpi, cuz tan is periodic

echo condor
serene heath
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yes theta is arctan(y/x)

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so 7theta is 7arctan(y/x)

echo condor
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ohhhhhhh

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ok thank u so much

quartz inlet
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Given (x-1) (x-3) ^2(x-k) <=0. Find sum of all values of k such that this inequality has exactly 20 integer solutions.
I am getting the answer as 2 but the answer given is 3 . Can someone please tell how to solve this

viscid thistle
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or this

harsh cipher
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g(x)= ln(x) increase faster.

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But I don't know why...

jolly raven
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which base is larger?

harsh cipher
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log(x)

jolly raven
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yep

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so it takes larger numbers to reach a power of 10

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10^3 is bigger than e^3

harsh cipher
#

if you graph it it's the opposite?

jolly raven
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ln x will grow faster bc it takes quicker to get to 2.5ish than 10

jolly raven
harsh cipher
#

ln(x) increase faster?

jolly raven
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yeah

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think about it like this

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e^x grows slower than 10^x right?

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since e is smaller than 10

harsh cipher
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Yes

jolly raven
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logarithms are inversions of exponential functions

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so you invert almost everything about the function

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since first its that e^x is slower

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and we invert it

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its now that ln(x) grows quicker

harsh cipher
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Ok maybe I didn't understand over the interval (0,1)

jolly raven
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wait

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over (0,1) might be a different story then

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i think the inversion rule really only applies for a positive y

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but when its negative u itd change

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ah

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alright

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well now we gotta think about it like this

harsh cipher
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okay

jolly raven
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so we said that 10 is bigger than e right?

harsh cipher
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Yes

jolly raven
#

but remember than when we have a negative as the expoenent its a fraction

harsh cipher
#

Yes

jolly raven
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so taking reciprocals is the same

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if 10 is bigger than e and we take the reciprocal

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then 1/10 is smaller than 1/e

harsh cipher
#

Ok

jolly raven
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but overall 1/10 is farther from 10 than 1/e is from e

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so 1/10 would have to grow faster to reach 10 at the same point as 1/e

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so then log(x) grows quicker over that domain

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but then for the (1, infty) part u just do the one i talked about earlier

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so that should be all u need

harsh cipher
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hmmm

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Okay let me think about this.

lone fulcrum
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15,18,23,26,29,34,37,?,?,?

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what are the numbers?

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i was thinking 42,45 48

jolly raven
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I'd look at how the numbers are being added successively

gusty glade
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Does anyone know the best book on Integral calculus?

gusty glade
jolly raven
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40, 45, 48

gusty glade
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why?

jolly raven
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+3 +5 +3 pattern

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Last iteration was the last +3

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So you would continue from the top

past meadow
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23, 26, 29

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oh i get you

jolly raven
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Yeah

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+5 +3 +3 is there

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Bc previous one was 18

gusty glade
jolly raven
gusty glade
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wrong answer tho

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i will try to focus on my thinking again

jolly raven
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I mean I make mistakes in math too

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So it was just a fluke

gusty glade
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no pal actually i felt in confusion
even that was a basic.

fringe raft
gusty glade
fringe raft
#

Definite integral or indefinite,Are you clear with indefinite ?

gusty glade
gusty glade
fringe raft
gusty glade
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A Treatise On The Integral Calculus With Applications, Examples And Problems
Joseph Edwards
this one?

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@fringe raft

fringe raft
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There’s another book titled integral calculus for beginners you can look into that if you’ve not enough practice

gusty glade
#

ok bro thanks!

stone temple
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Hey

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Not sure is this fits here but

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Is good understanding of algebra I and some basic trig enough for precalc then calc?

willow bear
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probably.

stone temple
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Okay thanks

muted steeple
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how do i begin solving this?

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completing the cube :D? cube formula?

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daheck

echo wagon
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You can use the rational roots theorem to get the roots originally

muted steeple
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i know nothing about that

echo wagon
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But since they give you solutions, you could just plug in to see which ones are solutions

muted steeple
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neither did this course said anything about it.

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yeah i was thinking the same but then what's the point of this exercise?

echo wagon
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I'm surprised that you would get this question without having done RRT

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That's the usual way for solving cubics

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Use RRT to find one rational root, then do long division to get the quadratic factor, then find the solutions of the quadratic

muted steeple
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that's how they solved similar one in the notes

echo wagon
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Yes, that's right

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The rational roots theorem just tells you which numbers to try at the start

muted steeple
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is an advanced concept?

echo wagon
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No

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Google to see it in action

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Basically it tells you something about all rational roots of a polynomial

muted steeple
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ok

echo wagon
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So that it limits the numbers you have to check to those that satisfy the condition

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For all rational roots p/q, p divides the constant term and q divides the leading coefficient

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So you can just write out the factors of the constant term and leading coeff, and then divide them one by one and test all those numbers.

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All other rational numbers won't be roots so you don't have to try them

muted steeple
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looking at the wiki atm.

echo wagon
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šŸ‘

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It's probably like the next part in your notes tbh

muted steeple
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that's the end

echo wagon
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Oh okay, I guess not

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That's really wack

muted steeple
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it's an intro course to calculus on coursera

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it had a lot of good reviews

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so i decided to try it

echo wagon
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If you don't eliminate any numbers to test, there are infinitely many to try. With RRT, you limit yourself to a finite number of numbers to test

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What's the course?

muted steeple
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this one*

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i really want to get to week 3 with good base understanding.

echo wagon
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I will audit it now to check the content lol

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I'm sure it's fine

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Just learn the RRT to help yourself

muted steeple
#

a lot of new lingo

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what is relatively prime?

echo wagon
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Two integers are relatively prime if their gcd is 1

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It means they don't share any factors except 1 and -1 which are always common factors of any 2 numbers.

muted steeple
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ohh

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okay

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am i supposed to understand this ?

echo wagon
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No

muted steeple
#

okay so the leading coefficient in my case is not 1.

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so i need to find factors of p and q that are relatively prime?

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and that's all the numbers i should be plugging to find the root?

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oh wow that worked like a charm lmao

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amazing stuff.

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thank you.

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it works for all degrees of polynomials?

echo wagon
#

Yep

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All degrees

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Ofc there can still be irrational roots (or complex roots), but this will give you all rational roots

woeful island
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Could I check my answer I got for a question here, or should I go to the questions section?

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(because the question section is pretty packed)

willow bear
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you can post your question & answer to be checked here

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@woeful island

woeful island
#

just #7, had to find the value of K

woeful island
willow bear
#

i know i'm several hours late because sleep

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but the problem statement is incomplete. you want to find the value of k under what conditions?

woeful island
#

its ok, i got a friend to help me out lol

daring wolf
#

Im so scared to take pre calculus next year

calm vine
#

It's not too bad don't worry

loud marsh
#

whats the notation for x is the element of all real numbers such that x cannot equal (more than one number)

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i know for one number it would be

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{XER|x=/=(whatever number)}

sick steppe
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${x\in\mathbb{R}|x\neq a,b;a\neq b}$

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that?

loud marsh
#

ya but i mean when there is more than one number that x cannot equal

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like lets say x cant be a or b

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how do you write that

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

sick steppe
#

x cant be a or b, and a and b arent the same

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ie x cant be 2 distinct values, but can be everything else in R

loud marsh
#

okay so what if it was like x cannot equal 1 and 2

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you dont need to say 1 and 2 arent the same right

sick steppe
#

no that's clear

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so just ignore the 2nd condition of what I wrote

loud marsh
#

it would just be {xer|x=/=1,2}?

sick steppe
#

yes

loud marsh
#

thanks!

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im in calc but i forgot this basic part lol

grizzled blade
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hey!

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im in desperate need

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of help with this question

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this is a no calculator

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question

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for the record

sick steppe
#

log_7(2)~.35

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so you need to find a way to make $\log_7{3}-\log_7{8}$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

yeah

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i got that far

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but how do i find the values for those logs?

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thats what im stuck on

sick steppe
#

3=6/2

grizzled blade
#

i see

sick steppe
#

and you know what log 6 and log 2 are

grizzled blade
#

what would log 2 be?

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0.35?

sick steppe
#

1/2 of log 4

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since $0.5\log_7{4}=\log_7(4^{0.5})$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

fuck thats confusing

#

half of log four would be 1.3/2

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correct?

sick steppe
#

where did you get 1.3?

grizzled blade
#

oopd

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o mean

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sorry i was looking at the wrong one

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so log7^3 is 0.45

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and log 7^8 is

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1.4?

sick steppe
grizzled blade
#

can you go over how to find log7^3 again

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please

sick steppe
#

$\log_7{4}\approx 0.7$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

sick steppe
#

right?

grizzled blade
#

how did you get that

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wait

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yeah

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yeah

sick steppe
#

reading

grizzled blade
#

right

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sorry

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super stressed my b

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so yeah thats right

sick steppe
#

so then I can multiply both sides by .5

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$0.5\log_7{4}\approx 0.35$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

mk

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so then where does that lead us

sick steppe
#

but by log laws, $0.5\log_7{4}=\log_7(4^{0.5})$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

yes

sick steppe
#

and square root of 4 is 2

#

so $\log_7{2}\approx 0.35$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

ok pretty simple

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from there where do we go

#

?

sick steppe
#

so you need log_7(8)

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but 8 = 2^3

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so multiply both sides by 3

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$\log_7{8}\approx 1.05$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

whattt

#

how tf

sick steppe
#

same logic of multiplying both sides by 0.5

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cause I can use log laws to get 2^3 inside the log

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$\log_7{2}\approx 0.35\implies 3\log_7{2}\approx 1.05$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

i see

#

ok that makes sense

#

so how does this help us find the orginial values we need to find

sick steppe
#

cause you need log_7(8) and log_7(3)

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so you found one of them

grizzled blade
#

we found log_7(8) correct

sick steppe
#

$\log_7{3}=\log_7\left(\frac{6}{2}\right)=\log_7{6}-\log_7{2}\approx .9-.35$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

wouldn't you want to add log7(2?)

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or multiply

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to find log7(8)?

sick steppe
#

you already have log_7(8)

grizzled blade
#

sorry bro this shit

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is like

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a forigen language

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to me

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its just this one problem on my entire damn worksheet

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do you think you could write this all down on a piece of paper so i can see your work?

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its juts so confusing tracking all of this

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im sorry man

sick steppe
#

it's basically how can you make numbers out of 6 4 and 11 given multiplication and division

grizzled blade
#

yeah

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ill try it again

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thank you for your help

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i have the answer

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but

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im still figuring out

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how she got it

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(my teacher)

sick steppe
#

yeah no worries

grizzled blade
#

im gonna try it again

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ill lyk if i need help, thank you man

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hmm so i went and did the entire thing @sick steppe

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my final answer was -0.35

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i got log7(3) is 0.7

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log7(2) is 0.35

sick steppe
#

how did you get that?

grizzled blade
#

what i did was

#

wait so

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my value for log 7(8) was 1.05

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is that correct?

sick steppe
#

yes

grizzled blade
#

ok so

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from there

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i did log7(2) + log 7(3) = 1.05

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i know the value of log 7^2 is 0.35

sick steppe
#

2*3 isnt 8

grizzled blade
#

2 to the power of 3

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is 8

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so do i multiply by 4 then?

sick steppe
#

yeah, so you'd get 3log_7(2)=1.05, which is back where we started

grizzled blade
#

ok

#

so from there

#

where do we go

sick steppe
#

$\log_7{3}=\log_7{6}-\log_7{2}$ as I previously said

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

sick steppe
#

and you know both log 6 and log 2

grizzled blade
#

how do we know

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that equation is true

sick steppe
#

cause 6/2=3

grizzled blade
#

i see

sick steppe
#

and log laws

grizzled blade
#

right

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right

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yes

#

ok that makes sense

sick steppe
#

so $\log_7{3}\approx 0.55$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

moshill1

grizzled blade
#

ok

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and we know both from there

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so the answer is

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-0.5

sick steppe
#

yes

grizzled blade
#

alright

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thank you

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i think i got most of it down

sick steppe
#

,w calculate log_7(3/8)

obsidian monolithBOT
grizzled blade
#

i just get confused witth log rules

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thank you

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yo

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@sick steppe

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could you go through this one with me as well

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im sorry

sick steppe
#

find log 2

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then log 4

grizzled blade
#

alright

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so i would find log two by

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dividng log 9^8 by 3?

sick steppe
#

yes

grizzled blade
#

since 2^3 = 8

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so log 2 is 0.

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0.3

sick steppe
#

cbrt(8)=2, but yes

grizzled blade
#

so log 2 is 0.3

sick steppe
#

yes

grizzled blade
#

i can square that

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aka

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multiply by two

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for 0.6?

sick steppe
#

yes

grizzled blade
#

ok yes that worked

sick steppe
#

,w calculate log_9(4)

obsidian monolithBOT
grizzled blade
#

thank you

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@sick steppe hey so

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i thought i had this one

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but i was clsoe

#

i don't know where my mistake is so im just gonna tell you what i did

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first thing i did was find log(3)

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i got 0.55

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after that i noticed 2^5 is 32

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so i went to find log(2)

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i got 0.35 for log(2)

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i then multipled that by 5

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and got 1.75

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and from there did 1.75 - 0.55

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and got 1.2

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but the answer is 1.1

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@sick steppe you have any idea where i went wrong?

grizzled blade
#

,w calculate log_8(2)

obsidian monolithBOT
grizzled blade
#

,w calculate log_8(11)

obsidian monolithBOT
grizzled blade
#

,w calculate log_8(3)

obsidian monolithBOT
grizzled blade
#

,w calculate log_8(2)

obsidian monolithBOT
viscid thistle
#

Is this a place I can find someone to help me understand concepts I am trying to learn in my course?

jolly raven
#

It's more like you can ask for homework help.

muted steeple
#

can someone explain the highlighted ones?

#

nvm actually figured it out wew

plain turtle
#

Determine which quadrant the terminal side would lie given the following information: sin(theta) = -21/29; cot(theta) < 0

#

^ can someone help with this?

#

Would appreciate

somber yew
#

@plain turtle What have you thought so far?

vale basin
#

what is wrong with this solution ?

#

i can't find the problem

willow bear
#

i mean...

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1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... is a divergent series

#

that's the issue

#

you're subtracting infinity from infinity

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and even the alternating harmonic series, ie what you start with, isn't absolutely convergent, so extra care needs to be taken in manipulating those

#

@vale basin

vale basin
#

I found the answer already but still thanks šŸ˜‰

stone vortex
#

my class is actually calculus, not precalculus but i feel like this is a pretty basic concept and #calculus is busy lol so..

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i did a FORTY rectangle approximation and its not close enough to the answer, in the calculator it calculated 7021.7143 for me
is there a better algebraic way to solve this instead of rectangle approximation? i didnt really pay enough attention in class and my finals tomorrow 😬

ebon sorrel
#

can you not just

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$\int_0^4 3x^6 dx$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

Wew Lads Tbh

jolly raven
#

Yikes

#

Doesn't know integration and has a final

stone vortex
#

well another issue there

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we're not allowed to use calculators, we have to do everything in excel

#

ill figure out how to put it in excel ig

jolly raven
#

But integrating it is so easy

stone vortex
#

ive prob opened the textbook twice the whole semester tbh i just figured stuff out on trial and error

#

ik its stupid but
im lazy and its been working

jolly raven
#

$\int x^n \dd{x} = \frac{x^{n+1}}{n+1}$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

visual of Petter's ascendance

jolly raven
#

If u have a coefficient before the exponent u just multiply the answer by it since it isn't affected by x

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@stone vortex so u should just integrate it

sick steppe
hasty plinth
#

Can anyone please help

zealous cosmos
#

What does that mean ... "find the symmetry?"

#

Just plug in values for $\theta$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

jolimath

zealous cosmos
#

Try 0, 90, 180, 270 to start ...

verbal shell
#

<@&286206848099549185> this problem was never answered

fringe raft
verbal shell
jolly raven
fringe raft
#

Think of it looking at a cup from the top Concave up looks like a cup

blissful peak
#

the question is, say there are 5 break out rooms, 4 people per break out rooms, and you have 9 friends. whats the probability of getting into a break out room with one or more of your friends.
i got ~83% and i just want to know if its correct or wrong

hasty plinth
#

Can anyone please help

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<@&286206848099549185>

viscid thistle
#

so ~83% would be wrong

#

P(room with one or more of your friends)=1-P(room with none of your friends)

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each room has 4 people

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20 people in the class

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10 non-friends, you, and 9 friends

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so lets say you're in some room, there will be 3 other people

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19 choose 3 total ways to choose 3 other people to form the room

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10 choose 3 ways to choose 3 non-friends so that you end up in a room with none of your friends

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P(room with none of your friends) =(10C3)/(19C3)

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P(room with one or more of your friends)= 1-(10C3)/(19C3)

sick steppe
storm plume
#

Hey guys, Im a highschool student, and i current am struggling at vector geometry. I was wondering had some recommendations on where i could go to get harder geometry vector geometry?

viscid thistle
#

if you are struggling then shouldn't you actually learn the basics ? thonkeyes

storm plume
#

i have lern't the basic....i just need to ensure that by doing harder questions i can ensure that i am prepared for everything in the exam

somber yew
#

That doesn't sound like an effective learning strategy.

#

Try working out your basics first.

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If it's a school exam, work through the contents covered in your class through the prescribed textbook.

#

Khan Academy could be a useful supplement.

jolly raven
sick steppe
#

n!=1

jolly raven
#

Yeah

sick steppe
#

!= means not equal

jolly raven
#

I forgot != means not equal to

#

If n=-1 then it's ln(x)

sick steppe
#

yes

blissful peak
civic sierra
#

$\int \frac{2ax+b}{ax^2+bx+c}\dd{x} = \ln{|ax^2+bx+c|} + C$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

.itsjustnai

civic sierra
#

Is this correct?

#

I assume it is because I've seen it used in a couple of problems, but can someone show me how they got it?

#

nvm i figured it out

viscid thistle
#

In vectors, How can directions be in degrees

sick steppe
viscid thistle
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right?

sick steppe
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cartesian vectors can be defined by a distance and a rotation

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so you rotate however much to look at the destination, then extend there

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for example if you want the vector [1,1], you rotate 45 degrees CCW from the pos x axis, then extend to be sqrt(2) away

viscid thistle
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How did he get speed?

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How did he get the dir angle

sly osprey
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pretty easy but idk how to do it

viscid thistle
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relearn what irrationals mean

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and how to find one between 2 numbers

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full context of that ?

pseudo furnace
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Anyone know how to do these

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I missed my class today

willow bear
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@pseudo furnace how familiar are you with angle sum, angle difference, and double-angle identities?

pseudo furnace
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Not very

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It’s a new unit

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This isn’t even for a grade tho, I just don’t want my teacher to think I’m an idiot lol

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@willow bear

willow bear
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hrm

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okay. let's see.

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since i'd like to know exactly where your knowledge gap lies, here's a simpler question:

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cos(t) = 0.6 and t is in quadrant 4; find the value of sin(t)
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would you be able to do this one?

pseudo furnace
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Unfortunately no

willow bear
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mkay

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okay, are you at least familiar with the pythagorean identity?

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i.e. sin^2(x) + cos^2(x) = 1

pseudo furnace
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Ya

willow bear
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okay

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why don't you try applying it to this question i posted then

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you'll need to learn how to do it in order to tackle the more complicated ones you've posted above.

pseudo furnace
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K

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Dang it I gotta go, I appreciate the help tho

willow bear
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...welp

pseudo furnace
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Sry:(

willow bear
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i mean, ok, you can look up the relevant trig identities on your own time since i gave you their names

blazing raven
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Just multiply two arbitrary, length 1 complex numbers.
Real parts a, c are cosine and then b, d are sine.
Ditto for the expression after multiplying.

(a + bi)(c + di) = (ac - bd) + (ad + bc)i
-->
x = (ac - bd)
cos(r + t) = cos(r)cos(t) - sin(r)sin(t)
&
yi = (ad + bc)i
sin(r + t) = cos(r)sin(t) + sin(r)cos(t)

willow bear
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i doubt that they're familiar with complex numbers at this point

blazing raven
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Eh fair enough.

viscid thistle
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yeah no i am not sure where the 43 comes from

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someone else should be able to help

shut shuttle
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Is a continuous and decreasing/increasing function f always a bijective function?

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I think it has to be strictly monotonic and then only it can be a bijection

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Can someone confirm?

stuck lark
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@shut shuttle don't really need continuous. just strictly monotone is sufficient

shut shuttle
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Okay thanks

echo wagon
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@shut shuttle when you say a bijection, what are you using as the codomain?

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It's definitely injective

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But it depends on what your codomain is whether it is subjective

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For example, $f: \bR \to \bR, f(x) = e^x$ is strictly increasing but not bijective because the codomain $\bR$ does not equal the range. If you instead made it $\bR \to (0, \infty)$ then it would be bijective.

obsidian monolithBOT
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Lunasong the Supergay

muted steeple
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Got stuck on this one.

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from my understanding it should be x * ln(6)=x+1

echo wagon
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Looks good

muted steeple
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no way to isolate x tho?

echo wagon
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... Can you isolate x in 2x = x + 1?

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Here 2 is just replaced with ln(6) but you do the same thing

shut shuttle
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I don't know what the codomain is, I just know that the range is R and f is a continuous and decreasing function. Can I deduce that f is a bijective function?

echo wagon
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You know that the range is R?

shut shuttle
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$f: \bR \to \bR$

echo wagon
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And by range do you mean image

obsidian monolithBOT
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