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i mean when you are finding $\lim_{x\to 2}x^3=8$ you are essentially doing this
Al𝟛dium
if $\lim_{x\to a}f(x)=L$ and $\lim_{x\to a}g(x)=M$ then $\ \lim_{x\to a}(f(x)+g(x))=\lim_{x\to a}f(x)+\lim_{x\to a}g(x)=L+M$
Al𝟛dium
ohh so theyre using that property
ok thank you! ill keep looking into it
you're welcome
graded hw
,rccw
do you still need help?
hello
can you help me in my activity?
tips or formulas would do, thank you so much!
How to turn integral into sum?
@umbral cloud do you have a specific problem?
Yupp
While Ik is the limit of Fk(X)
Montrer que= prove that...
I just need a hint to understand the problem
That's the function f(t)
all of them are correct
how would I graph these?
what's x| representing?
yes, ik what |x| looks like
Ok so you can either draw |x| and x on the same axes, then add ordinates
or you can break |x| into the piecewise definition and add the functions together, then graph
Can someone help with A pls
$b'(x) = 0$
moshill1
ok thx
@robust star Are you asking for help with that?
factor all of it
Ok
for the excluded values I got -4,2, and 5 but it's asking for two excluded values only
one sec
Isn't B 180-70?
what do you mean by interior angle of 70 + 90
Hey so I'm taking accel precalc and this is the closest channel related to precalc. I'm kind of having trouble solving this. Can anyone help?
try having u = sin(x)
well I haven't learned using u
i believe he means just subbing sin with u to simplify it. And then factor or something like that -- not 100% sure ngl
I see what you mean, but I have everything down till here and I'm guessing that I'm supposed to move the entire left-hand side onto the right hand side and from there it says to factor.but I don't see anything that could be factorable..
ok to factor i think you make it 2-2u^2 = 4-5u. Then you bring to one side and factor. Then after you factor, sub the u's back with sin. Also, im not 100% sure so yea
ok then that puts me at -2u^(2)-5u+2 or -2sin^(2)-5sin+2
Some way I need to get to this tho
i think so
ok mb.
its not simplifying, thats for sure so the only other thing is verifying the equation
dude im sorry idk what to do. I tested values and they were different ¯_(ツ)_/¯
yeah no, its fine thanks for the help
i can't understand what to do here?
I have my own calculations but
I don't believe they're right.
Can anyone give me the answer + an explanation?
@potent creek
<@&286206848099549185>
sorry for ping bro
np lol
f(x)=x^2-2x Find the zeros of the function
@pure vessel set it equal to zero
x^2-2x=0
you can factor an x out and get
$x(x-2)=0$
ICHIROfan51
now you get two zeroes
<@&286206848099549185>
@night glacier
im confused on how to do this :<
5 points.
it means you are probably working on some kind of test
blackboard hw actually
does anyone know what i’m supposed to do here?
log3(x-2) = -1
not so sure what i do with the brackets :/
Just raise 3 to that power
Yeah, still same stuff
yeah idk how they got that 1.6875 ??
yooo, Good afternoon people, I would like to ask, is the amplitude none, undefined or smth else. I got a graph like this, it's all about trigonometric functions
y = 1/2 tan 2x
like I know that its absolute value of a
but isnt the amplitude the highest point
plz send help
there is no amplitude of a tangent graph
is x^2* sin(1/x) differentiable at x =0? How about x^2 * cos(1/x)?
well, try differentiating x^2*sin(1/x), you get 2x*sin(1/x)-*cos(1/x), now try finding the the value at x=0, you can try using the squeeze theorem and get that the limit is between -1 and 1, but it can't be determined, similar for x^2*cos(1/x)
could someone help find the 'criteria' an ellipse needs to follow such that it has integer solutions/natural solutions
does anyone want to mentor a self taught leanrer?
How do i find the inverse of this funciton
so i have started off the question and part (a) is really simple and i found the derivative.
these are the graphs i got when inserting the eqs into geogebra
i want to ask that are these graphs correct, like have i inserted them correctly?
for (c) what i did was insert 10 into the real eq and for (d) i inserted 10 into the derivative eq
what i need help with is part (e), how do i calculate part (d) and can someone also tell me that the graphs and eqs are correct in the geobebra picture that is above.
yes i got (d) but what do insert in (e) and into which eq, the original one or the derivative one.
is it plugging in infinity into the x's so the x's turn into 0 and then just solve the eq?
are you there?
are you there?
you dont plug anything into e
what's the mathematical way of writing about what happens at the extremes of a function?
can't remember?
do you know what a limit is?
yes
ok so how do you express time going forward forever?
as infinity?
yes
so the population is infinity in the long run?
No
oh
$\lim_{t \to \infty} P(t)$
moshill1
yeah so i insert infinity into t.
oh, ok
P is a rational function, so what does a rational function tend toward at the extremes
i don't know why i don't know this or maybe can't remember.
do you know what a horizontal asymptote is?
yes
Horizontal asymptotes are the limits for infinity of a rational function.
find the horizontal asymptote
yes
so does that mean that the population will be 25000 in the long run since 25 is the horizontal asymptote and the question is asking the population in thousands so the population will be 25000 in the long run, right?
ok, thank you so much for your time and help.
ok, and i just want to make sure that in a i am going to do f(0) meaning i will sub 0 into the original eq and in b i will take the derivative and plug in 24 into the derivative eq, right?
yes
ok, thank you so much
Hi i need some help with this one
Im not sure how they got the answer 2.23 meters
Thanks!
I can't figure this out
Oh this one is simple. You multiply the denominator by its conjugate, which is (root t + 2)
You know what a conjugate is?
the same as denominator right?
oh its num
i get those mixed up im trying right now
thanks
np
alot! lol
still got it wrong
for the numeator i got root t +2 ^2
denominator t-4
ok let me see
yes you should get a radical in your numerator
but its important that the denominator is rationalized
which is correct
im not sure why the system is marking it wrong
the system?
numerator should be (√t + 2)^2
its hw
or expanded
ah yeah
denom = t - 4
^^
im not sure
There's no other possibility
Yea - expand the numerator
👍
That SHOULD get you to where you need to go
,w simplify (sqrt(t) + 2)^2/(t-4)
bruv
it did the opposite lol
👀
oh no lol
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I'm going to have to ask the professor why its wrong, i hate web assign
haha yeah you should
yeah you multiply the numerator by (root a + root b)
For this question you need to use the change of base formula and power rules to simplify. It also helps you make the bases equal. If you still need help I can show you some work for it
yeah no problem give me a second
So basically, you did all your math correct except that you forgot to square the pi as well.
Yeah no problem!
@fallow slate tysm!
I was about to say that 
can someone help me solve for those^^
i go the first image wrong but this one is similiar
Id probably start with the individual triangles that give you 2 sides
this way you can use SOH CAH TOA
i was thinking about that but then got totally lost
Do some trig kid
<@&286206848099549185>
Can someone help me please. I think (a) is [-4,4] I feel like that is wrong. (B) i got -3 which I think is right (C) i got -3 (d) I am unsure how to do
I keep getting this question wrong - I can’t figure it out. If the period is 8pi, wouldn’t b be 1/4 because 2pi/(1/4) = 8pi ?
I don’t understand how I got this one wrong either, can someone help?
you seemed to have disregarded that cot(theta) < 0
A sphere has radius 4cm and a different one has radius 8cm. How much bigger is the biggest sphere in comparison of the smallest?
How do I take the ratio of the volumes
Put the one in the numerator and the other one in the denominator of a fraction
And simplify
hmmm
so I should give as an answer that the biggest sphere is twice as big
haha jesus this seems like kindergarten math, but I
don't get it
It's in norwegian so it would be no point'
I have not given any answer yet
Just an assumption since 4 is 1/2 of 8
Sure, but look at the ratio of the volumes
Because the radius is cubed in the volume formula
V(r) = 4/3pi r^2
^3
yeah 3* my bad
4/3 * 3.14 44*4 is what i should do to get the volume of the sphere with ratio 4 then?
4/3 * 3.14 444
wtf
4/3 * 3.14 4 * 4 * 4
4/3 * 3.14 * 4 * 4 * 4
never mind I got it
anyone a genius with calculus? dm me I need help
Is this true for any complex numbers: $2|\alpha_1||\alpha_2|\leq|\alpha_1|^2+|\alpha_2|^2$?
emphatic_wax
(|α1| - |α2|)^2 >= 0. Expand this.
nice haha thank you
does anyone know why the graph of this kind of dips down through 5/3 on the left side, then rises back up and infinitely approaches 5/3, as x approaches negative infinity?
it makes sense to me that it approaches 5/3
but why does it go through
then back up
anyone good with calculus? dm me I need help
@viscid thistle don't ask to ask, just ask in a channel
to find the average cost function, is the formula C(x)/x?
if so then for a, is the function (5000+2x)/x?
are these two statements correct that i wrote?
ok, so i am good with a and b so can anyone help me with c?
anyone there to help?
Hey guys, please solve the qotd in MODS...
can anyone help question 5
can someone look at question 5 again pls?
what's question 5
yeah, i don't know maybe i'm making a mistake entering the command into geogebra because it is not working.
do you want me to post the geogebra picture as well?
yes
yes i got the derivative eq underneath it, so does that mean that there is no graph?
from just what you're asking it to do, no
can anyone help with this one...
I've been trying at it using some basic trig and geo concepts
but i can't crack it
@arctic kestrel law of cosines?
those are functions
what's the notation?
explain
hi I was wondering
how did the teacher solve this
like did he root of the 1/2 of the other side?
i get the first 2 lines
from the 2nd to 3rd line,
they squared both sides
no
whats the right way to do it?
add integer multiples of 2pi
so just add 2 pi?
that will get you one of the acceptable angles
would one be 11pi/6
yes
what abt the negative
add integer multiples of 2pi
aanswer
(there are negative integers too)
$\br{x_1^{1/2}}^2 = \br{4x_2^{-1/2}}^2$
ℝamonov
raise the the power of 2, "squaring" is the most concise way to describe it
if it was x^2, i thought to isolate it we would have to take square root of both sides
would -13pi/6 be good?
would -13pi/6 be good?
yes
if it was x^2, i thought to isolate it we would have to take square root of both sides
but you don't have x^2 here
$a^{1/2} = \sqrt{a}$
ℝamonov
JuicerSeducer
ℝamonov
I was talking with someone who has a math degree about holes in asymptote/function graphs, and she said that the way we're being taught is incorrect. In a function with more than one x= statement in the denominator (eg. [(x - 2)(x + 3)]/[(x + 5)(x - 2)]), there's no reason to represent a hole on a graph, since the potentially erroneous statement (x - 2) can just be cancelled out.
Is she correct?
$eg. [(x - 2)(x + 3)]/[(x + 5)(x - 2)]$
Goldra
no
$\frac{(x - 2)(x + 3)}{(x + 5)(x - 2)}$ behaves like $\frac{(x + 3)}{(x + 5)}$ except at $x=2$ where it will be undefined.
ℝamonov
and in your graph you can't just imply that it's defined there.
someone with a math major degree shouldn't be making such a claim,
are you quoting exactly what they're saying word for word?
Im confused on these kind of problems can someone help cuz my whole hw is like this
I am paraphrasing
yeh, that's an issue. gonna need exactly what they said
what you paraphrased is incorrect, their initial claim is probably good and you most likely misinterpreted it
I'm getting some of their messages, give me a second
Would you mind if I dmed you them? Took screenshots of their messages so idk if I want an entire server seeing those
up to her whether you can publicise here messages here. as long as its math related its fine.
She's on dnd right now so I'm not comfortable messaging her about that
@uncut mulch are u free to help me with that question real quick
use reference angles,
use given information to identify the quadrant theta is in
draw a triangle and/or apply pythagorean trig identities
im still lost.
i found the missing side as root 77
with pythagorean
and my answer of 9/root 77 was wrong
you messed up your ratio for cos
can someone help me with this one?
What's the problem here?
,w diff 8x^(3/4) ,x=16
so i have defined C(t) and C'(t) according to the first instruction.
Then i used the solve command to find the critical points
can anyone help me with step 3 and 4
and also why aren't there any critical points showing if i have entered the solve command?
anyone there to help?
is anyone there that can help me with this question?
@lilac storm you want to find critical points of C(t)?
also if you want to find where it is increasing or decreasing
can't you just use the graph of the function
yeah so i know how to find them but how do i find them on geogebra, like what do i type in so it shows and tells the critical points. Like for example, when you type derivative and the function, it automatically gives you the derivative function so how do i do it for the other 2 things?
yeah so i just want to make sure that why is it saying use the solve command for finding the critical points, meaning that there is a command that i can enter to find the critical points.
alright
yeah so i just want to ask that do you like know how would i type that command in, like for example step 1 is easy which is defining C(t) and C'(t) so you just basically type the original eq and for the derivative eq, you enter derivative (f(x)), so basically this is my question with the critical points that do you know how to like it says to use the solve command to find the critical points because of course i know how to find all these things by hand but this question is solely on geogebra, locating the important things on geogebra
are you there?
are you there?
hi, can the summation $\sum_{i=0}^{n} \frac{(n-i)^2}{2}$ be simplified?
yesfood
by simplified do you mean the summand or like
the whole thing
,tex bc you basically have \begin{align*}
\sum_{i=0}^n \frac{(n-i)^2}{2} &= \frac{1}{2} \sum_{i=0}^n (n-i)^2 \
&= \frac{1}{2}\left(n^2 + (n-1)^2 + (n-2)^2 + \cdots + (1)^2 + 0\right)
\end{align*}
do you know how to simplify the inside?
ciceronii
I meant the whole thing
sorry that summation was actually slightly incorrect, I'm trying to simplify $\sum_{i=0}^{\frac{n}{2}} \frac{(n-i)^2}{2}$
yesfood
the only reason i want to simplify it is because im trying to find its time complexity and the summation was the exact worst case, but apparently it's the same as O(n^2)?? sorry not exactly precalc but i wasnt sure where else to post this and ii would still like to know how to simplify this if possible
oh and sorry to be more clear, yeah i do mean to simplify it so i dont have infinite terms lol
Could someone help me out?
<@&286206848099549185>
anyone there that can help me with part c of this question?
the amount made between 11 and 10 will be the amount at 11 - the amount at 10
yes, i have tried that but the answer in the back of my textbook is different from what i get doing this
what does the book say?
26
Ask your teacher then, cause I'd think it's N(3)-N(2)
like is that the only way to solve this question or there is another way that's why the answer says 26, because i tried multiple times but i just don't get 26
Either the book is wrong or im smooth braining it
oh, ok then i believe in your way so you said subtracting N(3)-N(2)?
so i have defined C(t) and C'(t)
i just need help on how do you use the solve command to find the critical points?
and by the way moshill1, you were absolutely correct on the previous one. I was being so stupid and kept on subtracting N'(3)-N'(2), no wonder I would've gotten the right answer. N(3)-N(2) is correct because you do get 26 which is the correct way you told me
sorry about the previous one
but i do now need help with step 2 on how to use the solve command to find the critical points on geogebra?
anyone there to help?
What are real life examples on Cosine Trigonometric functions, like why is it so important that we need to ''understand'' those waves?
Its a big part of physics, an example might be with sound
Sound is composed of different frequencies and amplitudes
Which is connected to sinusoidal waves
@proper pilot
Another example is with projectile motion, splitting an objects path into its x and y components at each point along the trajectory
both dealing with cosine and sine waves
Damn, thanks man
Hey, not sure if that's the right place to post, since this is from the "Get ready for Pre-Calculus" category on Khan Academy, and not actual pre-calculus, but well, here's the problem :
Am I just being dumb here and not being able to do basic algebra ? Or is something wrong here ? Because to me this arithmetic sequence makes sense except for the first two terms.
4 - 1/5 is not equal to 3(4/5), right ? Or am I just being dumb ?
KingIbr16
This is literally the first time I hear of that, why did I have to google it, why on earth have I never been taught those in school
but now i think it makes more sense to you right?
Right, so this is basically 19/5 which is what I've been getting as an answer but written in a different way
Thank you for your help by the way ^^
KingIbr16
yes you´re right
Haha yeah I was wondering, but don't worry, I figured it out ^^

guys, if you add 2 other data points to a set, and the median increases but the mean stays the same
can u conclude that the data points were greater than the original median
hello if anyone have time, can someone pls check if we did it right, pls help
How would I find the x intercepts of quadratic function that can’t be factored?
Do you have Any example?Usually just completing the square works
Yeah the example is y=3x^2+30x-78
And I don’t know what to do since it won’t factor
I gotta find the x intercepts
Can you show your current work?
You can factor out 3 and then complete the square, it wont be fully factorized but it will be sufficient for finding the x intercept
rts
Usually when you cant fully factorize, you try to factorize as good as you can, it leave you with one term and you start to analyze when the expression is 0 and you then see that the 3 as coeffeicient has no impact, but that it is rather 0 if and only if the factorized term equals the negative of the other term.
$$3x^2 + 30x - 78 = 3(x^2 + 10x - 26) $$
$$x^2 + 10x - 26 = x^2 +10x +5^2 - 5^2 -26 = (x+5)^2 - 51$$
According to second equation:
$$3x^2 + 30x - 78 = 3((x+5)^2 - 51)$$
Which equals to 0 when:
$$(x+5)^2 = 51$$
$$x_{1} = \sqrt{51} -5$$
$$x_{2} = -\sqrt{51} -5$$
rts
There, i had a minor mistake
I’m just confused about the second step where you got the two 5^2 from to get the new equation
So i was looking at the polynomial $x^2 + 10x - 26 $ which cant be factorized using quadratic formula, so what i did is completing the square,
My goal is to rewrite a polynomial as a perfect square, which is in the following form
$$(x+a)^2$$
When you expand a perfect square you get:
$$x^2 + 2ax + a^2 $$
and
rts
when you look at $x^2 + 10x -26 =x^2 + 2*5x -26$ you can notice that it is almost an expanded perfect square
rts
What you see is missing is a^2, which in this case is 5^2, so what you do to the expression is that you add 5^2 while at the same time you remove it. This is what completing the square is
so, here i will add $5^2$ while also subtracting it, because adding something and removing it at the same time doesnt change the expression
$$x^2 + 2*5x -26 = x^2 + 2*5x + 5^2 - 5^2 - 26$$
rts
If i have for example the expression $1 - x$, adding and subtracting 5 at the same time doesnt change the expression, it is just rewritten.
$$1 -x = 1 -x +5 -5$$
rts
Ok that makes sense, how did you get the 51 though?
Well, that is the remains after completing the square, when i factorized the terms into a perfect square what was left was -5^2 -26
-25 -26 = -51
I think your textbook explains how to complete a square better than me but i am happy to answer more questions
Thank you, you gave good explanations I just need more practice with it so I fully understand it
oh i notice that it says 25x everywhere because discord, it should say 2*5x
Ohhhhhh
rts
What you see is missing is a^2, which in this case is 5^2, so what you do to the expression is that you add 5^2 while at the same time you remove it. This is what completing the square is
What you see is missing is a^2, which in this case is 5^2, so what you do to the expression is that you add 5^2 while at the same time you remove it. This is what completing the square is
rts
Thank you, I was lookinng at some other problems and it’s making sense to me
How do you Find the axis of symmetry with a table
Try drawing a graph first to see the x-interceptions
Thank you
$$y=-4sec 2(x+/pi)-5$$
^^
$$f(x)=-4\cdot sec 2(x+\pi)-5$$
lebedevhツ
Differentiate both terms and use product rule
so i found the factors of x^2-4x+5, which are : x=2+i. 2-i
how would i write it in factored form
?
a(x-r)(x-s) is factored form
i need help with step 2, how do you use the solve command on geogebra to find the critical points?
anyone there to help?
yes, i googled it multiple times and i have also tried multiple times, but i'm not getting anything. like you can see the first step which defining C(t) and C'(t), i simply enter it and i get it but i don't know why this solve command is not working?
i also have this with the question if this helps
do you know how to use the solve command to find the critical points?
are you there?
are you there?
anyone there?
anyone there to help?
No one is here to help 
can't you just do
solve C'(t) = 0
Could someone explain to me how jump discontinuites form
Like fundamentally how do you get two different y values here from a single x
jump discontinuities arise in stuff like piecewise functions
also you don't get 2 different y values here
One is undefined
the open circle there is to explicitly indicate that point isn't part of the curve
when x=1, y~1.8 (or w/e that value is supposed to be ONLY)
Ohhh I get it now
Ok so then how do discontinuites like these form:
Just at that particular x value the function doesn't work, but the rest is continuous?
the function isn't continuous at x_0
however it is still defined there as indicated by the closed circle
f(x_0) = 0
Yeah ok that makes sense thanks
@lilac storm here my solution again:
löse means solve.
$f^\prime (x)=g(x)$
KingIbr16
is there any more info, especially one that specifies what f(x) might be?
nope
hmm
i dont quite get how to do it
then i guess you can draw anything that fits the condition
like ik what it asks for
ok lets try the first one
but its hard to satisfy all the needs
limit as x approaches to 1 and f(1) does not have the same value
so what impression can you get from that?
have you thought of something like a piecewise function?
right? because theres is no function that can act so, just piecewise functions
so the first one seems to fit into a piecewise function kind
now how do you graph it?
just think of a simple graph
could yo u help me in making it @stuck mountain also needs help with it
maybe a line? or a curve if you like, approaching to y=2 as x->1
we both stuck on same question on the practice sheet
i cant give out answers
yeah i understand
so just play around a bit
yeahh
a line/curve , increasing/decreasing to y=2 as x goes to 1 from both side
ahh i get it
note that you can make such a function continuous
Hello there!
Recall properties of logs
What do I need to do to (x^2-9i^2) in order to solve my function? I have to have 34x in my final answer and this way is not giving it
i^2 = -1
introduce a scaling factor like a
f(x) = a(x^2-10x+25)(x^2+9)
just need help in b, how to find the local extrema
i have calculated the second derivative, i am done a and c but i'm just stuck on how to find the local extrema
to find the local extrema, do you plug in the value that you find by doing f''(x)=0 into the original eq?
anyone there to help?
2nd deriv test says that if f''(a) > 0 at critical point x=a, then x=a is a min and f''(a)<0 means max
they chose values of x where log_5(x-1) is easy to calculate
f(6) = 1
results in the point (6,1)
How do I write an equation to match this function? I thought of putting this function in fractional form, and placed the equation of the slant asymptote, y=x+1, at the front, then added a fraction x in the numerator (since the x-intercept is 0), and put (x-1) in the denominator for the vertical asymptote. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong here- I can see if I remove the +1 in x+1, the equation matches the graph, but why? I thought fractional form placed the equation of the slant asymptote first, and then a fraction.
your fraction had x in the numerator
it should've been 1 (or a different constant if the conditions were slightly different)
@glass owl
does (x^2+1) and (x+1)^2 have the same multiplicity?
multiplicity of roots?
how to find a function that represents this graph
You know the roots and the lowest multiplicity they can have
yus but idk how to make the dips go low
this is what i got its got same shape and root but the dips are different
the scaling factor
yes x=0 has multi. 2
Possible if I can get help with my question?
I have to find the solution to |3x+2| +5 ≥ 18 and put the answer in interval notation
I got [11/3,5]
but wouldn't it be a union interval since the sign in the question is greater than or equal to?
or am I wrong?
,w solve |3x+2|+5 >= 18
Hello there, I am very new to calc and we are currently learning the derivatives rules. I ran into this question and i tried the product rule but i didnt get the right answer. (We didn't learn the quotient rule yet).
Ans:
you can't use the product rule on a quotient
hmm we havent got to the quotient yet, thats what i am confused about
this is listed as a practice before the quotient rule lesson
if you really want, you can write the x in the denominator as a negative exponent and then do the product rule
one second
okay
sorry i had to restart my internet
what exactly are you doing?
can you show me your steps?
still good so far
= (x^-1) + (-1/x + 1/x^2)
i lost ya there
yeah i'm not sure what you did to the right side
brah
-1/x is
-x^-1
so they cancel out
and you're left with 1/x^2
which is the ans

oh you split the fraction
yea i got it right?
sorry the way i thought about it, you just write it as (-x+1)/x^2, get a common denominator, the x's cancel and you're left with 1/x^2
splitting the fraction works as well though
that just wasn't my way of thinking so i was confused when you did that lol
why is it that the integral can be without the dx
I have a notation question. Part of why it is "difficult" to grasp certain concepts, is because of the seemingly counterintuitive ways in which things are written.
Take this for example:
why isn't it f (3x, 2y) ?
how can the first part "equate" = the second part?
x2 = 2^2 = 4
makes sense to me
but not the f (x, y) = [3x, 2y ]
i might be miss understanding your question but isn't this just a question about how mathematicians decided to "write" maths? i mean f(x)=2x you wouldn't write that as f(2x). it's just how people decided that maths was suppose to be written.
one upside with the current system is that you can nest functions inside each other with an easy notation.
f(x)=2x
g(y)=3y
=> f(g(y))=2(g(y))=2(3y)
@feral crater, thanks for replying. It is indeed a matter of convention as you put it. However, just with all symbols, I cannot imagine there being no rhyme or reason involved. f(x) = 2x
the equation just confuses me, since how can f(x) < which contains no mention of 2
equal 2x
f(x) is basically a name. for the function.
we call it f(x) just to name it so that we can recall it later.
Cause that's how the function is defined.. < oke, kind of understand where you are coming from (programmer by profession)
Nah i hate programming
i would say a function from programming make sence 🙂
It is actually quite cool
f(x) can now function as a reference
for 2x right ?
yepp 🙂
f(x) = 2x
f(x) + sqrt (z)
can you compose stuff like this?
g (x) = f(x) + sqrt(x)
or better yet g (x, z) = f(x) + sqrt(z)
this is the generally accepted notation for multi-variable functions
awesomeeee
well technically but usally we tend to keep f(x) notation separate from normal.
so we usally write f(x)=2x
g(x,z)=2x+ sqrt(z)
or
f(x)=2x
h(z)=sqrt(z)
g(x,z)=f(x)+h(z)
weird how things swing around and suddenly make sense
but i think that's just random prefrence
f(variable1,variable2) = g(variable1)+h(variable2)
but yeah programming is just maths logic in disguise
$V(x,y,z)=\frac{by}{a^2+y^2}$ example from my physics assignment
moshill1
b and a are constants not variables, so we dont write them in the function notation. Also note that x and z dont actually appear in the function
That's just because it's talking about R^3 space so you generally be consistent and write all 3 spatial dimensions
Yeah, very good point. Sometimes I complicate stuff, because I expect them to be wholly unknown to me and hence in need of another approach or framing. However, then I suddenly realise, no: you are already familiar with this.
Very fascinating about the constants!
can someone explain to me how to solve this problem cuz i dont understand my teacher's logic
Use a graphing calculator or desmos.com to graph the two functions, the solutions are the points where the graphs intercept
oh ok. My teacher only drew one graph and came up with the answer so i was confused
thanks
almost
because it travels upward
the vector
4 over to the right
up 3?
or am I missing something
but really is there vectors in precalc? it's been a while for me.
yes 🙂
yes this is toward the end of the quarter though
so what happens when they dont give the graph to easily count
they just give initial point P as (-4,4) and Q = (-3, -1)
you just need to calculate the diffrance
ahh okay but yeah just calculate the diffrances in x value and y value
you got it?
okay so just take [(X1 - X2) , (Y1-Y2) ]
I did that
they said it was wrong 😦
nvm I just flip them
because terminal and initial
so x1 is actually -4
got it right thannk you
thanks king, I hope so
I recommend just sketching the vectors whenever you are unsure
ty
any clue?
solve for when the slope of y is 3, then find the points of tangency
yeah i just got the answer, it was so simple but my brain couldnt process it for some reason lol, thank you though!
I'm determined that this is just a computer thing and not my answer being incorrect
your x-intercepts are very wrong
you aren't setting up the correct equation to determine the x-intercept
Does anyone know how to find the alternative derivative for this?
x=-5 is NOT a solution to 0=5
I forgot what to do with that outside number after it all got factored but I think it clicked
I know I wouldnt plug that 1 back in but just to check for the 5 i guess? I forget this zero property since the last time you explained it
you don't have to do anything with it
x=-1 is the only solution to tht equation
if you don't like the presence of that 5, you could divide both sides of the equation by 5
@bold lintel
Where should I start learning calculus 
I think 2,2?
hmmm
2 to the right
3 upward
2, 3
4, 6
wrong?
9, -6 and -6, 2
but then add
so 3
and -4
okay okay wow good
how?
-1, 2 v
find vectort U + V
1, 1 is u
but another graph shows up
-5, 1
it goes up sorry
I am not sure
wait yes I think so
thats what its asking
so substitution
v-5 = u
so -1=2v + 1(v-5)
3v=4
okay ty
got it wrong
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@vale urchin stop repeatedly pinging helpers
whats ur question
And from there 0.75 as v and 0.5 as u didnt work
So my question is what do I do now?
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@vale urchin i asked you to stop repeatedly pinging helpers
no, i saw your message history, you've pinged and deleted those pings at least 5 times in the span of 10 minutes. that's a blatant abuse of the helper ping
no, you can ping helpers ONCE after waiting 15min
no
but what if the helpers see it and dont do anything ?
this server isn't like 24/7 customer service, there isn't a helper guaranteed to be available and willing to help every second that you're here. if absolutely no one's around to help, then too bad. you can ask again, maybe several hours from now, when there are likely more helpers around
just like I cant stare at a screen for a constant hour as well. Imposter here asked for the question, didn't help. And I can't ask several hours from now because its due today. I dont expect anyone to answer, but you volunteer to be a helper and obviously there are helpers available.
3/4?
=v
3v=4
oh
what about here -1=2v + 1(v-5)
oh
not divide by 3 on each side?
what you need to know is you blatantly abused the helpers ping. i asked you to stop doing that and you didn't listen. abuse the ping like this again and you get a warning
I stopped and I said after 15min, I've read the rules plenty, I only remember it being a 15min time limit.
and thanks for the help today
pinging after 15min is one thing. pinging several times in the span of 10min is another and is clearly abuse. make sure you understand this
I did stop, you gave me my warning, you've helped me a lot today. So thank you.
not divide by 3 on each side?
you could divide both sides by 3 from3v=4
but doing so does NOT get you v=3/4
its 1.3333333333
4/3
but I thought you said it wasnt?
No worries already got it
Thanks for your help, emphasis on help.
can someone help me find the domain for this function like i can easily find it by using log division and power laws but what about without it?
Think of two things
What cant you have in a fraction
What cant you have in a log
Theres no need for quotient and power rule here
ah aight i see now
does using the laws change the domain or anything
like is it legal ?
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No, but its not necessary
No to this i meant
thanks man
i got another question
like when it comes to finding domains for rational functions, is it always a good habit to try a factorise all components to see if any roots cancel out
that way they may not be a constraint
Can you give a more specific example?
like for example
or other ways where the numerator is not factorised but the denominator is
So what you meant is you want to factorise the x^2 - 4x + 3 into (x-1)(x-3) and then cancel the x-1 out
The answer is yes, you can do that to find the domain, but you also have to be careful
yeh idk how that is mathematically allowed
lol
So when you cancel things out there must be a condition to go with
so its best to cancel it straight up ?
No
Its best to just leave it as it is
You can cancel it out, but you have do it carefully
when finding domain, you don't factorise to cancel stuff with the numerator
you factorise to easily identify when the denominator is 0 and your expression undefined
but then how do u explain why theres no asymptote at x=1
cus u got 0/0
?
so it must be a point on the graph
?
(x-1)/(x^2-4x+3) = 1/(x-3) when x \neq 1
which last part?
x/neq 1
when x isn't equal to 1
determine whether there are components that will make your expression undefined
if you're dealing with rational functions, you'd only really need to consider the denominator for the domain
im just confused because upon first glance subbing in 1 into the original provides an error