#precalculus
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thanks
I am not necessarily thanking you because you helped me,I am just thanking because people nowadays barely have it in them to read a full paragraph. Even about enjoyable stuff like I have made long anime theories and most of the comments are like "I ain't readin allat".
Anime theories
yeah
Ok man cool
I guess
Small thing
Infinitesimally small
Is dx
Continuously adding dx gives us big thing
And that continuous adding is integral
so integration is integral but limited?
no i mean thats obvious but im telling about the meaning of integral and stuffs
if i understand dx i think i might understand integration using subsitution xd
Integration might not be limited
Don't give limits to it
Write c constant after integral
this is a very nice (and loaded) question
Lucy gonna be typin sum crazy explaination about dx probably
you probably already know this, but in an integral, dx mostly just tells us that we are integrating with respect to the variable x. however, what dx really represents is this really infinitesimally small change (smaller than delta x and for that we represent it as dx) in x. when we sum up the product of some functions height by the infinitesimally small widths (dx), we get the total area under the curve which is our integral
where there is maths there is some cool history too
f(x) as height and the symbol of integral is sum so its sum of infinite rectangles with each area is f(x)*dx with dx extremely small to make the area more accurate?
exactly that!
i understood it, thanks!
area of each rectangle would be f(x)*dx where f(x) represents h and dx represents width
ofc 
Say you have a function f(x), you can stretch it, invert it, change the x and y position of the index, but how do you rotate it by theta degrees upon the origin?
apply the rotation matrix to the graph, if that's your intent
Thanks
But I am one of them
I want information about this parabola
How can I deduce things about a tilted parabola ?
Like axis , directrix and all
Rotate the axes
Then rotate everything back
Civil Service Pigeon
What do the $ signs mean?
$wassup$
Sam
nomnom15
I have a multivarible system question. Ik it's more algebra, but these have 4 varibles. Does anyone have a method for solving these?
Gaussian elimination or just long substituting
I am assuming linear equations here
Well, 4D systems i guess.
Can you show the equations
Bro what is gaussian
Elimination
Hmm idk about matrices
It's not one specifically, but more of an algorithm i could follow
to keep the numbers straight.
What question do you wanna solve bro
Or you're jus randomly asking
No specific question
nothing specific. sorry. nvm
Certain equations involving logs are unsolvable using elementary algebra
Anyone got files for amplitudes?
What wym
Can someone tell me what I’ve done wrong?
Sin inverse -1 is -π/2
what the hell kinda pre cal are u taking
cos starts from the top, sin starts from the bottom
from the origin
if its -cos and - sin just flip them
hello everyone, someone can recommend me a good book for precalculus? i need theory, not the problems
like "precalculus from stewart" or something like that
can someone explain how to graph trig functions, specifically cot/sec/csc? i need some practice problems/example problems
why does $real(e^{ix}) = \cos(x)$ and $imag(e^{ix}) = \sin(x)$?
esoij
please ping btw
are you familiar with taylor series?
It's actually by Taylor series
nope
Yeah actually bro the thing is that
well do you know any calculus?
Yeh exactly my question too
yeah
i like just started calculus class a few month ago
im still learning derivatives in my class
Euler's formula about e to the i pi, explained with velocities to positions.
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not sure if this is at your level yet but you can try watching it
thank you
makes sense to me
better to ask in #book-recommendations
I don't understand the solution can ya explain?
@raw hill bro wot
which is 3pi/2
which book's questions is this? i want.to buy it
It's in no book
so what it is?
Which solution? What specifically don’t you understand? We need some more context to help you out here.
Some assignment that I got
Yeah I got it
No problem
Yh
so which class or some exam's assignment is it?
hello
Help me understand this if I’m doing it wrong because my precalc teacher can’t teach properly she just give us a packet
For the first property the x->4^-is the hole in the graph and the -5 is what the solution of the function should be once the hole is put into x in the equation
The second property the x->2^+ is the vertical asymptote and the negative infinity is how the graph behaves from the right side
And the last property is the horizontal asymptote
The first property doesn't necessarily mean that there's a hole at $x=4$. The graph could just pass through $(4,-5)$.
Civil Service Pigeon
your second and third ones are fine
can u please dm it to me?
its much easy brother,its just an a binomial function
Explain
@azure mist
No
Too lazy
But where are you getting these from
The question looks insanely hard
bro do challanges and thrills of precollege mathematics 4th edition book,then u will know the real meaning of "hard"
Isn't that hard
Except geometry
Well it is known for geometry
did u done tht book?
So what am I even doing
Only the combinatorics part
so is it a good book?
Why not the whole?
I never got the time to complete it
But the combinatorics wasn't too bad
looks like something related to the binomial theorem 
why did u evn just did the combinatorics part then?
Uh I like combinatorics
That is the only reason
And then I gave up on mo
Excursion was much harder though
means?say clearly
in that book? well,which book did u may prefer me to do for deeper understanding in mathematics?
Whichever book you like
It depends on the reader
Pretty much any standard book does the trick
Excursion is good though
and did u do That book for whom's saying or by whom u get to know Abt tht book)?
in tht book?
I saw it online
It was recommended by pretty much everyone
So which book r u doing now? and did u choose tht book for exam or self study?
I am not doing any book now
As I said I quit mo
oh olympiad prep ,noice ,so wht r u doing now? drinking juice?
Nothing really
well ,u probably tlking to me
Wasting time
Anyways you can go through any number of books you like but most competition math books do not have a lot of theory
So it is better to just search up competition math problems online
\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage{amsmath, amssymb}
\begin{document}
\section*{Elite-Level Challenge Problem}
Let (a, b, c) be positive integers such that
[
\frac{1}{a} + \frac{1}{b} + \frac{1}{c} = 1
]
and (a \le b \le c).
\begin{enumerate}
\item Find \textbf{all possible triples} ((a, b, c)).
\item Prove that there are \textbf{exactly finitely many solutions}.
\end{enumerate}
\end{document}
THE ONE
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done this qstion
I have seen it somewhere
?
Have a nice day mate
hi
i dont understand the unit circle thing in precalc
anyone know of any good ytbers for precalc bc i wasnt there for my teachers lectures
The Organic chemistry tutor is best
He explains it very well
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This guy is pretty good
Darn
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I'd assume "gradient of 1" means that y = 1 if x = 2, so you can just substitute y with 1 and x with 2, then evaluate for k
oh wait sorry, gradient means slope i forgot huhu
use quotient rule
can soemone expalin triangular numbers and the bionomial theorem to me
do you still need help?
Whats a gradient
Triangular numbers are numbers that are triangular
An analogue of "slope" that works for linear functions of several variables.
Oh ok
imagine you are climbing up some hill
the direction where you gain elevation the fastest is the gradient
Ok
na ty though
🤔 what exactly do you mean by this
What are you trying to do?
We have to identify the parent function, then graph it, then graph the changes.
Im not sure where the confusion is here
Are you concerned with the manual graphing?
Ye
I just don’t know in what order to do the things
Specifically the things outfrount
Oh well something nice about this parabola is that it’s in vertex form
Well I like to start with getting the important stuff down like your plotting a point for ur vertex
Do yk how to find the vertex?
We already have it? I’m just trying to do transformations.
Well I thought the confusion was the order of transformations
Ye?
You only have shifts in the horizontal and vertical axis
No stretches no compressions
Those are the only transformations
I think I’m just gonna ask my teacher tomorrow
you too have adhd?
i also, always, even now, have a video running in the background, when im doing something else.
yay transformations
translations come last
work from the inside-out
Nah I’m just bored and wanted to watch a tornado vid while doing my hw
can you help me in dms
No sorry
correct me if i am wrong, but this should be the order:
\begin{enumerate}
\item horizontal shift: replace $x$ with $x - h$ (right $h > 0$)
\item horizontal reflection: replace with $-(x - h)$
\item horizontal stretch/compress: $b \cdot (\pm (x - h))$ (stretch by $1/|b|$)
\item input absolute: $|b \cdot (\pm (x - h))|$ (erase/reflect left of y-axis)
\item apply base $f$: $f(|b \cdot (\pm (x - h))|)$
\item output absolute: $|f(\cdot)|$ (reflect below x-axis up)
\item vertical stretch/compress: $a \cdot |\cdot|$ (stretch by $|a|$)
\item vertical reflection: $-a \cdot |\cdot|$
\item vertical shift: $\pm a \cdot |\cdot| + k$ (up $k > 0$)
\end{enumerate}
*for the form
[
y = \pm a \left| f\left( \pm b \left| x - h \right| \right) \right| + k
]
∫_M dω = ∫_∂M ω
This might be a bit vague but can anyone give me a basic overview of the essential topic areas to know about exponential and logarithmic functions?(I have a test tomorrow) and I’m doing a last minute review
Thanks!
firstly, do you know the definition of an exponential and logarithmic function?
Yes
what are they?
and also make sure you know your properties of exponents/logarithms too
aside from that do exponential growth/decay problems
you should be familiar with the limit and series definitions of e and e^x also
Exponential function is of the form y= b^x / y = a•b^x or f(x) whtever and b can never be negative if I’m correct
Yup
I’m working on tht tonight too lol
Kk
For logarithms it’s of the form log in base 10 usually X = Y
And X also cannot be negative too I forgot
And ik the basic stuff like how to convert between exponential and logarithmic form already so im pretty good with tht
how about telling me what the domain and range of log(x) are?
that should answer your question lol
there is another restriction on b
can you tell me what that is?
All real numbers?
oh if you didn't cover that in class, don't worry about it
they'll likely show up later in precalculus
Oh shoot wait no
The uh
Domain is
All positive numbers
Cuz since the domain can’t be negative
The graph doesn’t go below the x axis into the negative
nope
Mb I corrected myself here I was thinking of the range probably
Idk
Is that right?
range is all real numbers
domain is all positive real numbers
do you know interval notation?
you can write this as (0, ∞) for the domain and (-∞, ∞) for the range
( means greater than
[ means greater than or equal to
) means less than
] means less than or equal to
or do you use set-builder notation?
I do
Yes
We use interval notation
So when solving for equations of logs and exponential functions would I use the same properties of logs to rearrange and solve them?
Could someone please help me with this?
I don’t know if this is right 😭
@grim magnet so that cant actually be factored further from 2x(2x^2-x+3)
but your method is still wrong, the way you tried to do it is called slide and divide factoring
above is just a random pdf i found online on the correct method
Thank you but all three numbers have an X….🤔
?
2x(2x^2-x+3) cannot be further factored
the (2x^2-x+3) does not have x on all the terms
example?
Couldn't find an attached image in the last 10 messages.
,rccw
south
Yes
alright, what happens when you take ln of both sides?
Would the e and the ln cancel on the left and then the ln stays on the 200 on the right?
After I put the exponent infront of the ln infront of the e?
yep! the e and ln undo each other
Okay!
so can you write out the new equation you get then?
yep!
so then remember that ln(200) is just a number, like any other number
2x = ln(200) - 1
and so on
yep!
so to write this online you need brackets around the (ln(200) - 1)
on paper you don't need brackets cause you can write it as a fraction
So X = ln (200) -1/2 and then I simply to a decimal if needed?
careful
x = (ln(200) - 1)/2
Oh whoops mb!
no worries!
Hi I'm new to pre calc any tips
make sure you're 100% good with basic algebra
hello
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hello troposphere how are you my friend
Do I know you?
LOL😂
I’m planning to start an electronics engineering university next year, not a native english speaker (though I’m at C1 level), and I’m looking for a good book to learn pre-calculus. Could anyone recommend one?
aops precalculus
if that's too difficult, read aops intermediate algebra first
or if you want something a bit more challenging, "basic mathematics" by serge lang
Heyy, good night from my country.
Im looking for a book that clearly explains limits, functions and graphs. Do you know of any? 👀
yes, James Stewart's Precalculus
Thank you✨️
The idea is fine, but your use of the implication symbol and dropping the limit notation is off
\begin{align*}
\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{x^2 + 2x} &= \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{x(x + 2)} \
&= \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{(3x)^2} \cdot \frac{(3x)^2}{x(x+2)} \
&= \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{(3x)^2} \cdot \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{9x^2}{x(x+2)} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{9x}{x+2} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{9(0)}{0+2} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{0}{2} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot 0 \
&= 0
\end{align*}
Civil Service Pigeon
Something like this would be better
ok thanks
I just bombed my test -_-
everyone does, not many don't
Bro i feel like i couldve just skipped ap precalc, it feels so ez
Manditory by our school and teachers
Because the propositions are correct in both ways
i guess
Not using an equivalency arrow is a wrong notation, they say
u can just exapand (x-1)(x+1)......
and say vx³
will be dominant
or does that not
if x € R and not N
let me get my pen and paper
All the factors in the denominator must be ≠
and try to solve it myself
Okayy
@hazy delta
sorry for my messy writing
im on 2 hours of sleep
but see how the terms are +,-,+,-/-,+,-,+
that means that k/v ≤ 0
the other cases are just what ifs
pretty sure they will never be dominant unless maybe with x=1
i forgot
that its all Real numbers
maybe this doesnt if its all real numbers
Why are you expanding all of this
works but nobody does that lol it's kinda bloated
in solving inequalities, it's not strictly necessary unless you're emphasizing that each transformation preserves the solution set
you can simply use "→" or proceed step-by-step without any symbol, as long as each manipulation is valid
@hazy delta i can show you how i'd solve this
Im not sure if this is the right thread: But how do you find the last 2 digits of 7^3^2^(1/3)^(-1)^9^2^i^6? Saw this online (lost the source)
And another question: How should I solve x(4^x)=80? Online calculators work, but im not sure what are the steps and working.
From right to left you should be able to simplify the last 6 exponents
Which gives 7^3^8, right?
... Like what? The issue is that 7^3^8 is... extremely large and the laws of indices dont help much from here.
I think we should look at the 3^8 part - given that its 7^(3^8)
I am, but haven't found anything useful
You only want the last 2 digits, so 7^(3^8) mod 100, and phi(100)=40, so by Euler's theorem you want 3^8 mod 40.
However 3^4=81 which is 1 modulo 40, so 3^8 is also 1 modulo 40, and you're now looking for 7^1 mod 100.
Which is 7.
Explicit calculation with a bignum calculator confirms that 7^(3^8) is a 5545-digit number that ends with ...,741,152,007
I see, thanks! Sorry for the trouble.
Was no trouble.
There's no good general symbolic method for that.
If we look for integer and then rational solutions by trial and error, it doesn't take long to find x=5/2 -- but if there had not been such a nice solution, there wouldn't really be anything to do but to approximate it numerically (say, by more trial and error, or bisection, or Newton-Raphson).
You can get tools like Wolfram Alpha to create a symbolic expression for the solution that involves the Lambert W function -- but for most practical purposes that is just a cop-out that says if you want actual digits you'll have to find them numerically anyway.
hello
is it difficult
no
what does precalculus mean
It's a group of loosely connected topics that in American school systems are named for the fact that they are taught before calculus.
(Silly naming if you ask me, but what can you do?)
ohh, mhm thanks. weird but then ok
highschool calculus
Okay I'm not sure what category this question is, so I just ask here. I remember a theorem states that there's always at least [I think] a prime between p and 2p, does anyone know what's it called?
Bertrand's postulate.
anyone here a teacher that i can interview?
So im in middle school but i really like math and physics and i know basic differential and integral calculas but i always have this doubt that how is the differentiation of sinx = cosx
all yt teachers just said like its a formula i have to learn it but i want to know how it was like derived pls dont include too high level stuff
you can use the definition of a derivative
f'(x) = f((x+h)-f(x))/h as h approaches 0
put in f(x) = sin x
use a few identities and the fact that sin h/h approaches 1 as h tends to 0
oh thanks
and can u also tell a like a good yt channel that explains calculas from the basics in a interesting way language english
@modern wedge
You can't conclude 2^x=12 or 2^x-1=12 from the line above
Or even not at all in this problem
Wydm cancel them
If x(x-1)=12 does that imply x=12 and/or x-1=12
hey can someone help rq. I keep trying to so this and I get similar answers but never right on.
Could you explain what you're doing and which wrong answers you get?
(Also: weird bizarro world where interest rates stay constant for 15 years at a time and the interest is compounded continuously).
Hey I wouldn't complain
use the compound interest formula
is this deltamath
yes
HELLLLLLLLLLLL NAHHHHHHHHHHH
I actually took it last year
I mean, this year but :v
🤡
its hard as hell
Good luck soldier
I don't understand lmvt properly,what is it's main uses
"lmvt"?
i believe he means lagrange mean value theorem
yes
You can check this yourself in #bots
,w remainder when x^10 + x^8 is divided by x-1
In general, when you divide any polynomial p(x) by x-a, the remainder is always p(a).
(And here f(1) is obviously 2).
,w remainder when X^6-10 is divided by x-2
is this how you use it?
Weird that it doesn't deign to show any result; it shouldn't be all that bad.
Ah, it's confused because you mixed X and x.
oh
nice thank you
what I do is for the x - 2 I set it equal to 0 then use the 2 and plug it into f(x)
is this the right way or are there other ways?
That's generally the quickest if your divisor is of degree 1 and you just want the remainder.
alright thank you
It's not the only way, of course -- for example, you could use the generic polynomial long division method.
ok nothing to complicated thanks
guys i just started into calculus can any of yall explain what its abt
There are two parts of calculus. One is differential calculus and another is integral calculus. In differentiatial calculus i.e. derivatives u have to find slope of a line and its intercept point on respect to x axis. More clearly The derivative measures the instantaneous rate of change of a quantity with respect to another. It tells you how much a function's value is changing at a specific point.and in integral calculus u have to find areas of curve ,rectangles that represents a function in a graph. It's the inverse method of derivative. Thats it .Good luck
Any good lecture video of differential and integral calculus where they teach from basic also
I might need help later if I can’t do this homework right😭
This class is making me break down😭
Pre calculus
I find it makes more sense in terms of differentials, but yea
I think I got it finnaly😭
matrices are scary
i havent known much about it yet but indeed it looks scary lol
they terrify me
also can someone explain me about chain rule, why is
[f(g(x))]'=f'(g(x))*g'(x)????
I mean, just kind of intuitively, whatever ypu change about the inputs of a function like f(x + 5), or f(5x) or f(g(x)), those operations transform the graph that's shown sure, but think about it like they're transforming the xaxis itself, and all the points on the graph follow along with it. So for f(g(x)), the function f is of course going to change at a rate f'(g(x)), but then you habe to also multiply it by the rate that the x axis changes now because of g, so you multiply by g'(x).
And this surely isn't precalc...
sorry i wrote it wrong lol
i find this channel to ask calculus only
Does this make sense?
Wanted to confirm if this question is correct or not?
If it helps, this question was taken from the UNSW Integration Bee 2022 Knockout Round-3 Question 2
does calculus help distracting me
bitfh that’s not even pre calc
that’s like multi variable on steroids
😭 but it's only 2 variables...
oh!
well idk what type of pre calc YOURE learning but that’s like so complicated and im in honors pre calc
I'm just a JEE aspirant that likes to tackle Olympiad problems i guess
oh clock it
What is 1+1
A fairly reliable recipe for being thrown out of a math server if that's all you appear to want to use it for.
10
Ohhh
Everyone gangsta until you need to prove it
1+1
1+succ(0)
succ(1+0)
succ(1)
2
Anybody know what the heck question 6 and beyond talking about😭 why does it have sin and cos😭
the question asks you to solve the inequality of (2cos -1)(sin +1) < 0 then ig
At least one side is already 0
So just use your tricks and summon the answer
😭
Can you send a more complete photo? I can't see the whole problem...
Can someone hop on a call with me and explain integration?
Kindly DM me, any help is appreciated
Someone teach me differentation
Be more specific
Do you have an exercise?
Yh
Go watch Khanacademy or Organic Chemistry Tutor on YouTube
They explain everything from scratch
Ok
Is this college algebra in your country?
What are topology
It's almost impossible and too many things to be taught here in Discord
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Nice
what is 0.5% as a fraction
what does % mean
percentage 💔
yeah, if its a percent you multiply it by 1/100
yes
hi gang im severely uneducated in the world of calculus may i ask how do i start learning and what do i need to know before learning 
im a 9th grader idk if that helps and i just like math and want to learn in advance 
I think if you have a solid grasp of these 3 then you’ll be good
I’m also in 9th grade but I’ve seen some visualization videos of calculus through YouTube and it’s really interesting
You’re welcome! I hope that helped
i just got a question, why do we sometimes add +C in different integration equations
integration is just the opposite of differentiation
whenever u differentiate a function that has a constant u just leave it out
we factor in that constant whenever we integrate
oh ok
Alternatively, because to find area under a curve from an antiderivative you have to find F(x_2) - F(x_1), so if you have a constant there it's going to cancel out
Yes
would anyone be able to hop in a vc and explain how to find limits and prove continuity using the epsilon-delta definition of a limit?
anyone got tips for learning permutations and combinations? really need some
If you just want to learn integrals and derivates then go Source: Pauls Online Math Notes https://share.google/7C2503dXaoXcn7bN4
If you want to understand the concept behind calculus then watch some youtube videos
But i shud tell you that you should first learn limits and series before starting to integrate and derive as this will make it easier later on when u need to combine them
Here is a set of notes used by Paul Dawkins to teach his Calculus I course at Lamar University. Included are detailed discussions of Limits (Properties, Computing, One-sided, Limits at Infinity, Continuity), Derivatives (Basic Formulas, Product/Quotient/Chain Rules L'Hospitals Rule, Increasing/Decreasing/Concave Up/Concave Down, Related Rates, ...
There are like 4 theories for them
No point to get tips
tysm!!! 
wdym?
Like there are only 4 theorems for those 2 stuff
I think there’s more than that, but it depends on what u want to do
What are there
The formulas for both
Einsteins thingymajig and something im probably forgetting so thats 4
Einsteins?
I mean there are things like (n choose 0) + (n choose 1) + … + (n choose n) = 2^n
Yeah cuz that's the expansion of (1+1)^n
Yeah
That
Sure, if u prove the binomial theorem
But the binomial theorem is harder to prove
It's so useful that it has to be proved anyway.
Yeah
another classic proof is thinking about making a choice of choosing or not choosing each of n objects
I just like to think of it as percent meaning over 100
that is it
I just like to think of it as a number % = 1/100
Does the points where a function and its inverse meet always lies on y=x?
I don't think so
I'd say it's either on y = x or they're symmetric about that line
It has symmetry about y=x, but that just means any point that already were at y=x would map to itself by reflection, if it weren't on y=x it could conceivably map to some other part of the graph
For example y = -x which is its own inverse as well
On the other hand, I can't immediately think of a counterexample
Ok, y = -x and y = 1/x are counterexamples, but are there counterexamples that aren't their own inverses
Yes
y = 1/x^2 - x^2
So the answer to your question is no, but it does surprisingly often
Yeah you are right, but it's only false in case a function is same as its inverse , otherwise the statement is true
Wrong
This is a clean function, there is no multiple branches shenanigans or anything, and it isn't its own inverse
But it intersects its own inverse infinitely many times, and only one of those intersections lies at y=x
So if you want to try salvaging this conjecture, maybe consider limiting it to only polynomials, or saying that if it intersects itself, then there is at least one intersection at y=x or some other form of making it weaker
I'm pretty sure this works for polynomials as a consequence of FTA
How about 1-x³? It is invertible, but (0,1) and (1,0) are in the intersection between the graph and its inverse.
oh, good catch
yeah if you think about FTA, that implies that there can be a maximum of 2n intersections for a polynomial with degree n and its inverse, I hope
frankly there are just too many exam questions where they only intersect where y = x
cause those exam questions are contrived
theres no calculus channel so idk if i can ask this here
dont need help just curiosity
but could anyone well versed in calc tell me if an infinite taylor series is actually "equal" to the function youre trying to "approximate"?
even if you cover the entire domain of the function hence the infinite part are there any small inaccuracies whatsoever throughout the curve of say sin(x)? or does it perfectly match sin(x) for every input of x?
im thinking that it isn't completely exact because we dont take the derivative at every value but maybe my understanding is wrong
it is
the approximation is only for finite taylor series
thanks idk why it doesnt show for me
but an infinite taylor series is exactly the function
good to know
just like an integral is exactly the value of the area
so if its finite it'll have inaccuracies
not an approximation anymore
yes
if you grab the undergrad role you should be able to access all the channels
you don't need to actually be an undergrad to take the role you can have it if you're doing that type of math or just really if you want to lol
alright i can see it now
#calculus is in the Early University category which is accessible even without any of the math-level roles.
It might not be shown in the channel list unless your choices in Channels & Roles select it, though.
I am in grade 12 and learning pre calculus 12
I have found a new branch of mathematics called discrete math, set theory and mathematical logic
Pre calculus 12 never covers these topics
How important are these topics from a mathematical standpoint
I plan on taking calculus and learning lots of maths
set theory is a requirement for most math so thats very useful
the others can be useful as well
You are in a similar situation with me
The feeling when you apply Integral by parts and reach the original question again after 5 steps
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Hlo
bye
Are you a maths expert
no
How much maths you know
how do yo measure it?
Yes I am starting maths
After a long time
How much time it will take to master integration and calculus
It will depend on how much time you put toward it, but you could probably get through Calculus 1 through Calculus 4 in a 8-10 months to a year maybe if you go fast?
Maybe even faster than that, I'm not really sure. Why?
I have to give a exam for master which requires maths for entrance
😭8months
How much calculus do you need to know?
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
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Given side lengths of both square for example a and b, how can you find the shaded area?
Let just ignore the increase/decrease rate of those sides for now
okay let me try
yea i totally faild i dont know from where to start
We can get the shaded are by subtract the smaller triangle from the bigger one if you know what I mean
The base of both triangle are the same and heights can be found using Pythagore
oh i see it now
but i have to get the area in terms of a and b not numbers right?
Yeah
if a is small square Length and b big square then it should be A= 1/2 ab - 1/2 a^2
yea i guess it is wrong
is this right or not?
Hey
There is 2 formulas you will use
Difference of cubes and Quadratic formula
quadratic formula is for finding roots
the original problem seems to be about factoring, not finding roots
it was a polynomial expression but not an equation (doesn't equate anything)
,rccw
hi
say i had a line $y=-\frac{b}{a}x+b$ and i wanted the equation of a line parallel to it, thats offset by a vector of (a,b), how would i find it
Vq!
it would be easiest to use point slope form
Offset by a vector?
so just $y - 2b = -\frac{b}{a} (x - a)$ cause that passes through $(a, 2b)$ automatically
Do you mean it passes through (a,b) or that the line is somehow displaced some distance relative to one of its points?
displaced
I'm assuming that they mean to translate every point on the line by the vector (a, b)
yeah this
Then the line wouldn't necessarily pass through (a,b)
oh wait I did it slightly wrong
this originally goes through (0, b)
whats that?
so you would want the line to go through (0, b) + (a, b) = (a, 2b)
search it up
oh ok
the equation for a line with slope m to pass through a given point
south
uh
y - y1 = m(x - x1)
where (x1,y1) is the point you want the line to pass through and m is the slope
what do you want it to do?
okay so i was trying to make a graph thats basically the pythagorean theorem, the squares a and b work fine but whenever a≠b the purple square (c squared) gets.. funky
the graph for reference
y = m(x - x1) + b + y1
Hmm
Shouldn't it be this?
Before the transformation it passes through (0,b), after the transformation it passes through (x1, b + y1), so point slope gives you y = m(x - x1) + b + y1
except that the vector is already (a, b)
so like.. got any fixes 😭
Yeah?
The vector is always (a,b)
after the transformation it passes through (0, b) + (a, b)
What I'm saying is that you wrote it wrong
It's not $y - 2b = -\frac{b}{a}(x-a)+b$
pebble
oh lol, corrected
it's supposed to be $y=-\frac{b}{a}(x-a)+2b$
pebble
yeah I edited my message too fast and it came out wrong
hopefully the most recent one works
oh okay
Give this a try
😭
it infact did not guys
hmm, let me think
could you send the link to the Desmos graph?
What's the specification of this triangle?
Is it axis aligned, right triangle, what about the angles?
Or do you just specify the a and b length
and a is the length along the x axis toward the right, b is the length along the y axis upward?
a is the base length, b is the height
yes
That's it?
yeah
Alright, so the slope would in fact be -b/a.
everything ive done has worked up until finding the parallel line which is for c^2
I know why
you're not translating the line by a perpendicular distance of sqrt(a^2 + b^2)
$-\frac{b}{a}\left(x-\left(a+b\right)\right)+a$
pebble
kk
I'm making a diagram to show you
south
You see, I've just taken the same triangle and moved it
they work out to the same thing
no worries!
thanks guys :>
hi guys im confused again 😭
so i was labelling right, i was putting the values in the middle of the square but um, how do i get the coordinate for the middle of c²
You could average the four corners of c
?
Like
@woven thicket please don't delete modpings -- that does not make the ping itself go away, and just makes it more difficult to have to look around to "why was there a ping in this channel".
The square c has four corners right? So add up the x components for each corner, and divide by 4 to get the center of the square in the x. Then do the same for the y components
Oops my bad, there was a scammer here but I pinged mod a bit late
$x_{\text{center}}=\frac{1}{4}(x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4)$
pebble
oh
it ended up being $\left(\frac{\left(2a+2b\right)}{4},\frac{\left(2a+2b\right)}{4}\right)$
Vq!
Vq!
its cause the points are
0,b
a,0
b,a+b
a+b,a
so for x its 2a+2b all over 4 and y is 2a+2b all over 4
yep
this is probably just a desmos thing now but how could i display the actual area of a², b², or c²
hmm 
huh
Uhh
I was finding the center... just want to post another approach
oh
This is Pythagorean theorem
You sum the two squares and it will give you c^2
ty
Interesting that the line to the center of the square on the hypotenuse always bisects the right angle.
oh wait really
hi dude what if i wanted to show an angle on a graph from like any point
what if like the angle changes....
frick im gonna have to use a bunch of stupid trig
i finished it :) https://www.desmos.com/calculator/yfzogcjmbp
guys whats harder, Alg 2 or precalc
precalc is harder i just moved to it from alg 2 anyway i like precalc more than alg2
i hate alg 2
i hate pascals triangle
and dividing and subtracting and adding rational equations
Can anyone help me qith calc
you should post your question(s); and also we have a #calculus channel where you may have better luck.
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Guys can anyine help on this $y=\frac{1}{\ln^{2}\left(2x-1\right)}$
nomaidens
This is screwed
why is it shaped like that? how can i know how to sketch it on exam, for which x are y values positive..
thats how it should look like on a graph
-4
so you used some derivation, on end it looks worse, and how do you still know how the graph looks?
the usual log graph looks very differently
,w differentiate (1/(ln^2(2x-1)))
,w graph log(x)
,w graph e(x)
,w graph e^(x)
,w graph ln(x)
how do one-sided derivatives work? in the original definition of the derivative, there's lim as h (growth) approaches 0. so how does h -> 0+ or h -> 0- make sense? I can't wrap my head around this
in normal derivative you pick point (x, f(x)) on the curve and then consider points (x+h, f(x+h)) where h is small (and approaches 0), but could be negative or positive.
For one sided it is either only positive or only negative. afaik
Is there a book that could help me study pre calculus on my own
Do you guys know any?
@grave flame use khan academy, books i don't know any that could help
Or actually use college prep books from the official website
This is #calculus rather than pre-calculus, but:
If the derivative exists at some point, the one-sided derivatives will also exists and have the same value. So they're not very interesting in that case.
It becomes more interesting then the full derivative doesn't exist. Then we might still be lucky enough that the one-sided derivatives do exist and can capture at least something about how the function behaves, even if it's not as nice as an actual derivative would be.
,rotate
???
,w graph log(x)sin^-1(y)
i am doing right guys?
the problem is that 1 - sin(pi/2) is still 0
but you can multiply $\frac{1}{1 - \sin x}$ by $\frac{?}{?}$ to make the denominator not have that problem anymore
south
and 0 * infinity is an indeterminate form
I just do this instead
i use pythagorean identities in the 4th line
that's wrong
$\sin^2 x (1 - \sin x) = \sin^2 x - \sin^3 x$
south
what part i got wrong?
you need to fix the denominator of your line 4
(ping)
Can you distribute
What I plug 0 in
fix here
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So it's 2 right?
@grizzled jewel this is a channel for on topic conversation about math. please keep memes in #chill
It's 4! - 5
Now stop trolling
#precalculus message @grizzled jewel
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Yes
L'Hôpítal
Actually someone in #discussion wanted a question so I just posted it here for them
They didn't want to go to dms
I know but this is still the wrong channel
Sorry, I'll use the correct channel from now on.
how do i find all theta this is what i have rn
i know sin theta can be 1/2 but that cancels out all cosines
and isnt the only solution
try using power reduction formula to write cos(t) in terms of sin(t)
i think it would help to add 0 inside the argument so it turns into a multiple of 2
how to learn precalculus
Go to school
i do
Khan Academy
aiht
Ah, ic
My mistake
Interesting method but there is actually an easier way to do this problem. See how those 4theta and 2theta are basically "3theta + theta" and "3theta - theta"? Use this type of prespective to solve the problem!
godayumm
ong genius
who can spell prosthaphaeresis without looking it up
😭😭
thinking out of the box bro
I can spell pneumoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniosys without looking it up yet I have never heard of that word
even I can do it!
it's easy to spell and the only time I heard it was in a TV show
I love adding prefixes and suffixed to make words
Priorianticircumnavigationalisticians
i mean i guess bro
How can a trig equation relate to unit circles
by definition, cos theta is the x-coordinate of a point on the unit circle, and sin theta is the y-coordinate
It originates from circles
because trig is about angles, and angles are defined as paths along a circle
What's linear?
.71 for what?
Sqrt(2)/2
I wonder is that the invention of trig
Like as radical
Like linear graph goes through 30 degree and 210 degree
I wonder how many degrees does quadratic goes through
how is this the same