#precalculus

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frail lion
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I understood like 90 percent of that

sweet hearth
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thanks

frail lion
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No need to thanks me i guess

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I should be thanking you

sweet hearth
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I am not necessarily thanking you because you helped me,I am just thanking because people nowadays barely have it in them to read a full paragraph. Even about enjoyable stuff like I have made long anime theories and most of the comments are like "I ain't readin allat".

frail lion
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Anime theories

sweet hearth
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yeah

frail lion
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Ok man cool

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I guess

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Small thing

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Infinitesimally small

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Is dx

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Continuously adding dx gives us big thing

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And that continuous adding is integral

lone temple
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so integration is integral but limited?

frail lion
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Integration is the method

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Integral is the answer

lone temple
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no i mean thats obvious but im telling about the meaning of integral and stuffs

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if i understand dx i think i might understand integration using subsitution xd

frail lion
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Integration might not be limited

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Don't give limits to it

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Write c constant after integral

trim shard
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this is a very nice (and loaded) question

frail lion
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Lucy gonna be typin sum crazy explaination about dx probably

trim shard
# lone temple if i understand dx i think i might understand integration using subsitution xd

you probably already know this, but in an integral, dx mostly just tells us that we are integrating with respect to the variable x. however, what dx really represents is this really infinitesimally small change (smaller than delta x and for that we represent it as dx) in x. when we sum up the product of some functions height by the infinitesimally small widths (dx), we get the total area under the curve which is our integral

trim shard
lone temple
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f(x) as height and the symbol of integral is sum so its sum of infinite rectangles with each area is f(x)*dx with dx extremely small to make the area more accurate?

lone temple
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i understood it, thanks!

trim shard
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area of each rectangle would be f(x)*dx where f(x) represents h and dx represents width

trim shard
forest sleet
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Say you have a function f(x), you can stretch it, invert it, change the x and y position of the index, but how do you rotate it by theta degrees upon the origin?

summer ruin
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apply the rotation matrix to the graph, if that's your intent

uncut star
frail lion
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I want information about this parabola

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How can I deduce things about a tilted parabola ?

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Like axis , directrix and all

raw hill
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Rotate the axes

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Then rotate everything back

frail lion
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Man rotation of axis is

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Very gruesome unpaid labour

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Ya got something else

raw hill
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Eh this is a kinda special case tbf

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$(x+y)^2=4x-2$

obsidian monolithBOT
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Civil Service Pigeon

frail lion
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It's not only about this

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This is sorta an example

proud tangle
frail lion
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$wassup$

obsidian monolithBOT
proud tangle
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Ah

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$cool$

obsidian monolithBOT
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nomnom15

fair minnow
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I have a multivarible system question. Ik it's more algebra, but these have 4 varibles. Does anyone have a method for solving these?

uncut star
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Gaussian elimination or just long substituting

uncut star
fair minnow
uncut star
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Can you show the equations

frail lion
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Elimination

uncut star
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It is simplifying a matrix to find solutions

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Similar to elimination in 2 variables

frail lion
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Hmm idk about matrices

frail lion
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Send the

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Equations

fair minnow
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It's not one specifically, but more of an algorithm i could follow

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to keep the numbers straight.

frail lion
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What question do you wanna solve bro

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Or you're jus randomly asking

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No specific question

fair minnow
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nothing specific. sorry. nvm

uncut star
faint sail
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Anyone got files for amplitudes?

frail lion
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What wym

celest lantern
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Can someone tell me what I’ve done wrong?

upbeat vine
ornate mist
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what the hell kinda pre cal are u taking

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cos starts from the top, sin starts from the bottom

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from the origin

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if its -cos and - sin just flip them

willow bear
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this is definitely not pre-calculus

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but definitely calculus calculus

obtuse narwhal
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hello everyone, someone can recommend me a good book for precalculus? i need theory, not the problems

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like "precalculus from stewart" or something like that

molten hearth
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can someone explain how to graph trig functions, specifically cot/sec/csc? i need some practice problems/example problems

timid spruce
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why does $real(e^{ix}) = \cos(x)$ and $imag(e^{ix}) = \sin(x)$?

obsidian monolithBOT
timid spruce
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please ping btw

river drift
frail lion
timid spruce
frail lion
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Basically expansions

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If cos theta, sin theta , e^x expansions?

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@timid spruce ?

timid spruce
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what

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i dont understand

frail lion
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Yeah actually bro the thing is that

river drift
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well do you know any calculus?

frail lion
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Yeh exactly my question too

timid spruce
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i like just started calculus class a few month ago

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im still learning derivatives in my class

river drift
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not sure if this is at your level yet but you can try watching it

timid spruce
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makes sense to me

frail lion
raw hill
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,rotate

obsidian monolithBOT
raw hill
frail lion
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I don't understand the solution can ya explain?

frail lion
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@raw hill bro wot

neon ingot
limber holly
frail lion
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It's in no book

limber holly
raw hill
frail lion
upbeat vine
limber holly
frail lion
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Class 11th

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Jee advanced pattern

bitter shoal
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hello

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Help me understand this if I’m doing it wrong because my precalc teacher can’t teach properly she just give us a packet

For the first property the x->4^-is the hole in the graph and the -5 is what the solution of the function should be once the hole is put into x in the equation

The second property the x->2^+ is the vertical asymptote and the negative infinity is how the graph behaves from the right side

And the last property is the horizontal asymptote

raw hill
obsidian monolithBOT
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Civil Service Pigeon

raw hill
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your second and third ones are fine

limber holly
azure mist
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As a tenth-grader, I'm curious

limber holly
azure mist
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Ty I'll view that later

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Also where is the calc section

frail lion
limber holly
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:/

frail lion
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Too lazy

uncut star
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The question looks insanely hard

limber holly
uncut star
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Except geometry

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Well it is known for geometry

limber holly
uncut star
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So what am I even doing

uncut star
limber holly
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so is it a good book?

limber holly
uncut star
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But the combinatorics wasn't too bad

cinder heron
# frail lion

looks like something related to the binomial theorem thonk

limber holly
uncut star
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That is the only reason

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And then I gave up on mo

uncut star
limber holly
limber holly
uncut star
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It depends on the reader

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Pretty much any standard book does the trick

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Excursion is good though

limber holly
limber holly
uncut star
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It was recommended by pretty much everyone

limber holly
uncut star
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As I said I quit mo

limber holly
limber holly
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well ,u probably tlking to me

uncut star
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Wasting time

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Anyways you can go through any number of books you like but most competition math books do not have a lot of theory

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So it is better to just search up competition math problems online

limber holly
# uncut star Wasting time

\documentclass[12pt]{article}
\usepackage{amsmath, amssymb}

\begin{document}

\section*{Elite-Level Challenge Problem}

Let (a, b, c) be positive integers such that
[
\frac{1}{a} + \frac{1}{b} + \frac{1}{c} = 1
]
and (a \le b \le c).

\begin{enumerate}
\item Find \textbf{all possible triples} ((a, b, c)).
\item Prove that there are \textbf{exactly finitely many solutions}.
\end{enumerate}

\end{document}

obsidian monolithBOT
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THE ONE
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limber holly
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done this qstion

uncut star
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I have seen it somewhere

limber holly
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its toooooop esy

uncut star
limber holly
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sorry its from number theory so...

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but still ,

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Good!

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bye

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gn

uncut star
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Have a nice day mate

arctic raptor
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hi

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i dont understand the unit circle thing in precalc

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anyone know of any good ytbers for precalc bc i wasnt there for my teachers lectures

haughty spoke
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He explains it very well

arctic raptor
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tyyy

craggy canyon
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hi

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chat

frail lion
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Hi

willow breach
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<@&268886789983436800>

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scammer

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hacked account

raw hill
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<@&268886789983436800> spammed amongst multiple channels

stuck dagger
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This guy is pretty good

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Darn

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His name is Michel Van Bizen

raw hill
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<@&268886789983436800> multiple channel spam

cedar garnet
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How to

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K

unkempt lodge
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I'd assume "gradient of 1" means that y = 1 if x = 2, so you can just substitute y with 1 and x with 2, then evaluate for k

cedar garnet
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I think its dy/dx = 1

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But i dont know how to differentiate with fractions

unkempt lodge
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oh wait sorry, gradient means slope i forgot huhu

unkempt lodge
hard kernel
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can soemone expalin triangular numbers and the bionomial theorem to me

willow skiff
acoustic apex
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Whats a gradient

acoustic apex
hushed sphinx
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An analogue of "slope" that works for linear functions of several variables.

willow skiff
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the direction where you gain elevation the fastest is the gradient

acoustic apex
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Ok

hard kernel
neon herald
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How do I know what to do first (stretch flip etc)

dense zealot
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What are you trying to do?

neon herald
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We have to identify the parent function, then graph it, then graph the changes.

dense zealot
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Im not sure where the confusion is here

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Are you concerned with the manual graphing?

neon herald
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Ye

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I just don’t know in what order to do the things

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Specifically the things outfrount

dense zealot
# neon herald

Oh well something nice about this parabola is that it’s in vertex form

dense zealot
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Do yk how to find the vertex?

neon herald
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We already have it? I’m just trying to do transformations.

dense zealot
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Well I thought the confusion was the order of transformations

neon herald
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Ye?

dense zealot
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You only have shifts in the horizontal and vertical axis

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No stretches no compressions

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Those are the only transformations

neon herald
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I think I’m just gonna ask my teacher tomorrow

dense zealot
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there’s a negative sign infront of (x+5) which suggests a downwards parabola…

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💔

willow breach
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i also, always, even now, have a video running in the background, when im doing something else.

fallow hemlock
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translations come last

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work from the inside-out

neon herald
# willow breach

Nah I’m just bored and wanted to watch a tornado vid while doing my hw

willow breach
neon herald
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No sorry

fallow hemlock
# neon herald How do I know what to do first (stretch flip etc)

correct me if i am wrong, but this should be the order:

\begin{enumerate}
\item horizontal shift: replace $x$ with $x - h$ (right $h > 0$)
\item horizontal reflection: replace with $-(x - h)$
\item horizontal stretch/compress: $b \cdot (\pm (x - h))$ (stretch by $1/|b|$)
\item input absolute: $|b \cdot (\pm (x - h))|$ (erase/reflect left of y-axis)
\item apply base $f$: $f(|b \cdot (\pm (x - h))|)$
\item output absolute: $|f(\cdot)|$ (reflect below x-axis up)
\item vertical stretch/compress: $a \cdot |\cdot|$ (stretch by $|a|$)
\item vertical reflection: $-a \cdot |\cdot|$
\item vertical shift: $\pm a \cdot |\cdot| + k$ (up $k > 0$)
\end{enumerate}

*for the form

[
y = \pm a \left| f\left( \pm b \left| x - h \right| \right) \right| + k
]

obsidian monolithBOT
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∫_M dω = ∫_∂M ω

heady bluff
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This might be a bit vague but can anyone give me a basic overview of the essential topic areas to know about exponential and logarithmic functions?(I have a test tomorrow) and I’m doing a last minute review

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Thanks!

fallow hemlock
fallow hemlock
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and also make sure you know your properties of exponents/logarithms too

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aside from that do exponential growth/decay problems

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you should be familiar with the limit and series definitions of e and e^x also

heady bluff
heady bluff
heady bluff
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For logarithms it’s of the form log in base 10 usually X = Y

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And X also cannot be negative too I forgot

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And ik the basic stuff like how to convert between exponential and logarithmic form already so im pretty good with tht

fallow hemlock
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that should answer your question lol

fallow hemlock
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can you tell me what that is?

heady bluff
fallow hemlock
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they'll likely show up later in precalculus

heady bluff
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Yea we didn’t cover limits U-U

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So ig I’ll ignore tht part

heady bluff
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The uh

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Domain is

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All positive numbers

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Cuz since the domain can’t be negative

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The graph doesn’t go below the x axis into the negative

fallow hemlock
heady bluff
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Idk

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Is that right?

fallow hemlock
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range is all real numbers

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domain is all positive real numbers

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do you know interval notation?

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you can write this as (0, ∞) for the domain and (-∞, ∞) for the range

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( means greater than
[ means greater than or equal to
) means less than
] means less than or equal to

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or do you use set-builder notation?

heady bluff
heady bluff
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So when solving for equations of logs and exponential functions would I use the same properties of logs to rearrange and solve them?

grim magnet
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Could someone please help me with this?
I don’t know if this is right 😭

slow zinc
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@grim magnet so that cant actually be factored further from 2x(2x^2-x+3)

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but your method is still wrong, the way you tried to do it is called slide and divide factoring

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above is just a random pdf i found online on the correct method

grim magnet
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Thank you but all three numbers have an X….🤔

slow zinc
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?

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2x(2x^2-x+3) cannot be further factored

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the (2x^2-x+3) does not have x on all the terms

obsidian monolithBOT
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Couldn't find an attached image in the last 10 messages.

hidden birch
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,rccw

obsidian monolithBOT
heady bluff
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How would I go about solving it?

willow skiff
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$e^{2x+1} = 200$?

obsidian monolithBOT
heady bluff
willow skiff
heady bluff
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Would the e and the ln cancel on the left and then the ln stays on the 200 on the right?

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After I put the exponent infront of the ln infront of the e?

willow skiff
heady bluff
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Okay!

willow skiff
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so can you write out the new equation you get then?

heady bluff
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Yeah

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(2x + 1) = ln 200

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Right?

willow skiff
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so then remember that ln(200) is just a number, like any other number

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2x = ln(200) - 1

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and so on

heady bluff
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Oh ok

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Ok I’m lost

heady bluff
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Divide?

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By 2?

willow skiff
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so to write this online you need brackets around the (ln(200) - 1)

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on paper you don't need brackets cause you can write it as a fraction

heady bluff
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So X = ln (200) -1/2 and then I simply to a decimal if needed?

willow skiff
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x = (ln(200) - 1)/2

heady bluff
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Oh whoops mb!

willow skiff
heady bluff
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Tyy

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For helping me

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:)

jagged dust
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Hi I'm new to pre calc any tips

uncut mulch
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make sure you're 100% good with basic algebra

heady bluff
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Hey

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Is anyone available?

tame elk
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hello

hushed sphinx
# heady bluff Is anyone available?

It is unlikely that anyone will promise to answer your question before you even ask it. The most reliably way to find out whether anyone is willing and able to answer a question from you is to ask it. That will give readers a chance to figure out whether they have an answer before they make any rash claims.

tame elk
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hello troposphere how are you my friend

hushed sphinx
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Do I know you?

dapper harbor
hardy igloo
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I’m planning to start an electronics engineering university next year, not a native english speaker (though I’m at C1 level), and I’m looking for a good book to learn pre-calculus. Could anyone recommend one?

fallow hemlock
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if that's too difficult, read aops intermediate algebra first

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or if you want something a bit more challenging, "basic mathematics" by serge lang

fallow hemlock
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<@&268886789983436800> think this classifies as cheating

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:)

celest minnow
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Dude got reported

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Lol

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(in @fallow hemlock's mind)

desert shadow
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Heyy, good night from my country.
Im looking for a book that clearly explains limits, functions and graphs. Do you know of any? 👀

willow skiff
bronze sorrel
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yes or no

desert shadow
raw hill
# bronze sorrel

The idea is fine, but your use of the implication symbol and dropping the limit notation is off

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\begin{align*}
\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{x^2 + 2x} &= \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{x(x + 2)} \
&= \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{(3x)^2} \cdot \frac{(3x)^2}{x(x+2)} \
&= \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 - \cos(3x)}{(3x)^2} \cdot \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{9x^2}{x(x+2)} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{9x}{x+2} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{9(0)}{0+2} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{0}{2} \
&= \frac{1}{2} \cdot 0 \
&= 0
\end{align*}

obsidian monolithBOT
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Civil Service Pigeon

raw hill
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Something like this would be better

bronze sorrel
void pine
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I just bombed my test -_-

woven thicket
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everyone does, not many don't

brisk mica
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Bro i feel like i couldve just skipped ap precalc, it feels so ez

bronze sorrel
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u js like me fr

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why do u use if and only if? ( <=> )

hazy delta
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Because the propositions are correct in both ways

bronze sorrel
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i guess

hazy delta
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Not using an equivalency arrow is a wrong notation, they say

bronze sorrel
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u can just exapand (x-1)(x+1)......

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and say vx³

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will be dominant

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or does that not

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if x € R and not N

hazy delta
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It’s a rational inequation

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the denominator can’t be 0

bronze sorrel
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let me get my pen and paper

hazy delta
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All the factors in the denominator must be ≠

bronze sorrel
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and try to solve it myself

hazy delta
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Okayy

bronze sorrel
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@hazy delta

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sorry for my messy writing

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im on 2 hours of sleep

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but see how the terms are +,-,+,-/-,+,-,+

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that means that k/v ≤ 0

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the other cases are just what ifs

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pretty sure they will never be dominant unless maybe with x=1

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i forgot

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that its all Real numbers

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maybe this doesnt if its all real numbers

hazy delta
fallow hemlock
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in solving inequalities, it's not strictly necessary unless you're emphasizing that each transformation preserves the solution set

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you can simply use "→" or proceed step-by-step without any symbol, as long as each manipulation is valid

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@hazy delta i can show you how i'd solve this

echo kraken
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Im not sure if this is the right thread: But how do you find the last 2 digits of 7^3^2^(1/3)^(-1)^9^2^i^6? Saw this online (lost the source)

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And another question: How should I solve x(4^x)=80? Online calculators work, but im not sure what are the steps and working.

woven thicket
echo kraken
woven thicket
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Yeah

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From here probably some number theory tricks

echo kraken
woven thicket
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Hm

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7^3 end with 3

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wait

echo kraken
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I think we should look at the 3^8 part - given that its 7^(3^8)

woven thicket
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I am, but haven't found anything useful

hushed sphinx
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You only want the last 2 digits, so 7^(3^8) mod 100, and phi(100)=40, so by Euler's theorem you want 3^8 mod 40.

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However 3^4=81 which is 1 modulo 40, so 3^8 is also 1 modulo 40, and you're now looking for 7^1 mod 100.

hushed sphinx
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Explicit calculation with a bignum calculator confirms that 7^(3^8) is a 5545-digit number that ends with ...,741,152,007

echo kraken
hushed sphinx
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Was no trouble.

hushed sphinx
# echo kraken And another question: How should I solve x(4^x)=80? Online calculators work, but...

There's no good general symbolic method for that.
If we look for integer and then rational solutions by trial and error, it doesn't take long to find x=5/2 -- but if there had not been such a nice solution, there wouldn't really be anything to do but to approximate it numerically (say, by more trial and error, or bisection, or Newton-Raphson).
You can get tools like Wolfram Alpha to create a symbolic expression for the solution that involves the Lambert W function -- but for most practical purposes that is just a cop-out that says if you want actual digits you'll have to find them numerically anyway.

dreamy basin
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Yo

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I'm taking AP calculus

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Next year 🥵

lusty light
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hello

runic dew
autumn spire
viscid thistle
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what does precalculus mean

hushed sphinx
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It's a group of loosely connected topics that in American school systems are named for the fact that they are taught before calculus.
(Silly naming if you ask me, but what can you do?)

viscid thistle
harsh rune
woven thicket
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Okay I'm not sure what category this question is, so I just ask here. I remember a theorem states that there's always at least [I think] a prime between p and 2p, does anyone know what's it called?

magic wyvern
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anyone here a teacher that i can interview?

jagged badge
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So im in middle school but i really like math and physics and i know basic differential and integral calculas but i always have this doubt that how is the differentiation of sinx = cosx
all yt teachers just said like its a formula i have to learn it but i want to know how it was like derived pls dont include too high level stuff

modern wedge
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you can use the definition of a derivative

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f'(x) = f((x+h)-f(x))/h as h approaches 0

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put in f(x) = sin x

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use a few identities and the fact that sin h/h approaches 1 as h tends to 0

jagged badge
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oh thanks

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and can u also tell a like a good yt channel that explains calculas from the basics in a interesting way language english

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@modern wedge

modern wedge
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no idea

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the organic chem tutor maybe

hazy delta
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Hello

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I made somewhere an error

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Can someone help me please ?

woven thicket
# hazy delta

You can't conclude 2^x=12 or 2^x-1=12 from the line above

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Or even not at all in this problem

hazy delta
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Why?

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They are both briggs log

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Can’t you just cancel them ?

woven thicket
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Wydm cancel them

hazy delta
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there are log on both sides of the equations

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OWWW

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i see it

woven thicket
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If x(x-1)=12 does that imply x=12 and/or x-1=12

hazy delta
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it isn’t = 0

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I’m stupid

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My bad

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Sorry

stray lynx
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hey can someone help rq. I keep trying to so this and I get similar answers but never right on.

hushed sphinx
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Could you explain what you're doing and which wrong answers you get?

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(Also: weird bizarro world where interest rates stay constant for 15 years at a time and the interest is compounded continuously).

shadow mantle
dreamy basin
dreamy basin
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I actually took it last year

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I mean, this year but :v

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🤡

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its hard as hell

magic mist
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Good luck soldier

dry sierra
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I don't understand lmvt properly,what is it's main uses

hushed sphinx
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"lmvt"?

woeful cosmos
stiff elk
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is the answer 2?

raw hill
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,w remainder when x^10 + x^8 is divided by x-1

obsidian monolithBOT
hushed sphinx
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In general, when you divide any polynomial p(x) by x-a, the remainder is always p(a).

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(And here f(1) is obviously 2).

stiff elk
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,w remainder when X^6-10 is divided by x-2

obsidian monolithBOT
stiff elk
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is this how you use it?

hushed sphinx
#

Weird that it doesn't deign to show any result; it shouldn't be all that bad.

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Ah, it's confused because you mixed X and x.

stiff elk
#

oh

hushed sphinx
stiff elk
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nice thank you

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what I do is for the x - 2 I set it equal to 0 then use the 2 and plug it into f(x)

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is this the right way or are there other ways?

hushed sphinx
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That's generally the quickest if your divisor is of degree 1 and you just want the remainder.

stiff elk
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alright thank you

hushed sphinx
#

It's not the only way, of course -- for example, you could use the generic polynomial long division method.

stiff elk
#

ok nothing to complicated thanks

ancient kelp
#

guys i just started into calculus can any of yall explain what its abt

tender hare
#

There are two parts of calculus. One is differential calculus and another is integral calculus. In differentiatial calculus i.e. derivatives u have to find slope of a line and its intercept point on respect to x axis. More clearly The derivative measures the instantaneous rate of change of a quantity with respect to another. It tells you how much a function's value is changing at a specific point.and in integral calculus u have to find areas of curve ,rectangles that represents a function in a graph. It's the inverse method of derivative. Thats it .Good luck

honest canyon
#

Any good lecture video of differential and integral calculus where they teach from basic also

slow solstice
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I might need help later if I can’t do this homework right😭

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This class is making me break down😭

magic void
#

Pre calculus

sonic hill
slow solstice
storm halo
#

Pre calc ts so easy 😭😭

#

yall tripping if you can’t get an A in this class forreal

thorn leaf
#

matrices are scary

lone temple
thorn leaf
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they terrify me

lone temple
#

also can someone explain me about chain rule, why is
[f(g(x))]'=f'(g(x))*g'(x)????

drowsy citrus
#

Well it isn't

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[f(g(x))]' is equal to f'(g(x))*g'(x)

sonic hill
# lone temple also can someone explain me about chain rule, why is [f(g(x))]'=f'(g(x))*g'(x)??...

I mean, just kind of intuitively, whatever ypu change about the inputs of a function like f(x + 5), or f(5x) or f(g(x)), those operations transform the graph that's shown sure, but think about it like they're transforming the xaxis itself, and all the points on the graph follow along with it. So for f(g(x)), the function f is of course going to change at a rate f'(g(x)), but then you habe to also multiply it by the rate that the x axis changes now because of g, so you multiply by g'(x).

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And this surely isn't precalc...

lone temple
lone temple
sonic hill
modern zodiac
#

Wanted to confirm if this question is correct or not?

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If it helps, this question was taken from the UNSW Integration Bee 2022 Knockout Round-3 Question 2

arctic prism
#

does calculus help distracting me

storm halo
#

that’s like multi variable on steroids

modern zodiac
storm halo
#

well idk what type of pre calc YOURE learning but that’s like so complicated and im in honors pre calc

modern zodiac
#

I'm just a JEE aspirant that likes to tackle Olympiad problems i guess

left laurel
#

What is 1+1

hushed sphinx
# left laurel What is 1+1

A fairly reliable recipe for being thrown out of a math server if that's all you appear to want to use it for.

echo sinew
left laurel
#

Ohhh

echo sinew
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Or 1 of you prefer

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Definitely not 2

modern zodiac
hardy crypt
slow solstice
#

Anybody know what the heck question 6 and beyond talking about😭 why does it have sin and cos😭

swift sequoia
patent barn
#

At least one side is already 0
So just use your tricks and summon the answer

slow solstice
#

😭

woeful widget
#

Somebody help me I got a test tmr …

modern zodiac
# woeful widget

Can you send a more complete photo? I can't see the whole problem...

honest marlin
#

Can someone hop on a call with me and explain integration?

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Kindly DM me, any help is appreciated

gaunt sleet
#

Someone teach me differentation

echo sinew
#

Do you have an exercise?

gaunt sleet
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Like first principles

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And what is ?

echo sinew
gaunt sleet
#

Yh

echo sinew
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They explain everything from scratch

gaunt sleet
#

Ok

muted widget
gaunt sleet
#

What are topology

echo sinew
#

It's almost impossible and too many things to be taught here in Discord

echo sinew
tender questBOT
hallow tartan
#

id love someone to be my study partner that is doing atleast 3 out of the 5: maths, computer science, biology, chemistry, physics. I am currently in yr11 but im already learning as-level at home. I just finished as pure maths and am doing as physics and chem. I am actually decently smart. add me if u wanna be my partner and message me

sonic hill
hallow tartan
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Nice

still brook
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what is 0.5% as a fraction

winter comet
still brook
#

percentage 💔

winter comet
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💀

still brook
#

oh

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1/100

winter comet
#

yeah, if its a percent you multiply it by 1/100

still brook
#

ok

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so 5/10 x 1/100

winter comet
#

yes

prisma ferry
#

hi gang im severely uneducated in the world of calculus may i ask how do i start learning and what do i need to know before learning meow

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im a 9th grader idk if that helps and i just like math and want to learn in advance eats

gloomy vector
gloomy vector
#

I’m also in 9th grade but I’ve seen some visualization videos of calculus through YouTube and it’s really interesting

gloomy vector
swift sphinx
#

i just got a question, why do we sometimes add +C in different integration equations

dense zealot
#

whenever u differentiate a function that has a constant u just leave it out

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we factor in that constant whenever we integrate

somber void
#

Alternatively, because to find area under a curve from an antiderivative you have to find F(x_2) - F(x_1), so if you have a constant there it's going to cancel out

woeful widget
pearl hinge
#

would anyone be able to hop in a vc and explain how to find limits and prove continuity using the epsilon-delta definition of a limit?

normal saffron
#

anyone got tips for learning permutations and combinations? really need some

red ivy
# prisma ferry hi gang im severely uneducated in the world of calculus may i ask how do i start...

If you just want to learn integrals and derivates then go Source: Pauls Online Math Notes https://share.google/7C2503dXaoXcn7bN4

If you want to understand the concept behind calculus then watch some youtube videos
But i shud tell you that you should first learn limits and series before starting to integrate and derive as this will make it easier later on when u need to combine them

red ivy
#

No point to get tips

whole void
red ivy
whole void
red ivy
whole void
#

I mean there are things like (n choose 0) + (n choose 1) + … + (n choose n) = 2^n

somber void
#

Yeah cuz that's the expansion of (1+1)^n

whole void
#

But the binomial theorem is harder to prove

hushed sphinx
#

It's so useful that it has to be proved anyway.

whole void
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Yeah

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another classic proof is thinking about making a choice of choosing or not choosing each of n objects

magic juniper
#

that is it

somber void
#

I just like to think of it as a number % = 1/100

sterile thorn
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Per cent means per hundred

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So /100

wispy widget
#

Does the points where a function and its inverse meet always lies on y=x?

somber void
#

I don't think so

echo sinew
somber void
#

It has symmetry about y=x, but that just means any point that already were at y=x would map to itself by reflection, if it weren't on y=x it could conceivably map to some other part of the graph

echo sinew
#

For example y = -x which is its own inverse as well

somber void
#

On the other hand, I can't immediately think of a counterexample

#

Ok, y = -x and y = 1/x are counterexamples, but are there counterexamples that aren't their own inverses

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Yes

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y = 1/x^2 - x^2

#

So the answer to your question is no, but it does surprisingly often

wispy widget
somber void
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This is a clean function, there is no multiple branches shenanigans or anything, and it isn't its own inverse

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But it intersects its own inverse infinitely many times, and only one of those intersections lies at y=x

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So if you want to try salvaging this conjecture, maybe consider limiting it to only polynomials, or saying that if it intersects itself, then there is at least one intersection at y=x or some other form of making it weaker

willow skiff
#

I'm pretty sure this works for polynomials as a consequence of FTA

hushed sphinx
#

How about 1-x³? It is invertible, but (0,1) and (1,0) are in the intersection between the graph and its inverse.

willow skiff
#

oh, good catch

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yeah if you think about FTA, that implies that there can be a maximum of 2n intersections for a polynomial with degree n and its inverse, I hope

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frankly there are just too many exam questions where they only intersect where y = x

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cause those exam questions are contrived

quiet juniper
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theres no calculus channel so idk if i can ask this here

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dont need help just curiosity

#

but could anyone well versed in calc tell me if an infinite taylor series is actually "equal" to the function youre trying to "approximate"?

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even if you cover the entire domain of the function hence the infinite part are there any small inaccuracies whatsoever throughout the curve of say sin(x)? or does it perfectly match sin(x) for every input of x?

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im thinking that it isn't completely exact because we dont take the derivative at every value but maybe my understanding is wrong

winter comet
#

the approximation is only for finite taylor series

quiet juniper
winter comet
#

but an infinite taylor series is exactly the function

quiet juniper
winter comet
#

just like an integral is exactly the value of the area

quiet juniper
#

so if its finite it'll have inaccuracies

winter comet
#

not an approximation anymore

winter comet
winter comet
#

you don't need to actually be an undergrad to take the role you can have it if you're doing that type of math or just really if you want to lol

quiet juniper
#

alright i can see it now

hushed sphinx
#

#calculus is in the Early University category which is accessible even without any of the math-level roles.

#

It might not be shown in the channel list unless your choices in Channels & Roles select it, though.

tough lake
#

I am in grade 12 and learning pre calculus 12

I have found a new branch of mathematics called discrete math, set theory and mathematical logic

Pre calculus 12 never covers these topics

How important are these topics from a mathematical standpoint

I plan on taking calculus and learning lots of maths

deft jetty
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set theory is a requirement for most math so thats very useful

#

the others can be useful as well

round geyser
modern zodiac
#

The feeling when you apply Integral by parts and reach the original question again after 5 steps

opaque spire
#

Hlo

signal crypt
opaque spire
signal crypt
#

no

opaque spire
#

How much maths you know

signal crypt
#

how do yo measure it?

sonic hill
#

Do you need help with something?

opaque spire
#

Yes I am starting maths

#

After a long time

#

How much time it will take to master integration and calculus

sonic hill
#

It will depend on how much time you put toward it, but you could probably get through Calculus 1 through Calculus 4 in a 8-10 months to a year maybe if you go fast?

#

Maybe even faster than that, I'm not really sure. Why?

opaque spire
#

😭8months

sonic hill
#

How much calculus do you need to know?

spice aurora
#

that should be a calc question

tender questBOT
# spice aurora
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
woven thicket
# spice aurora 1

Given side lengths of both square for example a and b, how can you find the shaded area?

#

Let just ignore the increase/decrease rate of those sides for now

spice aurora
woven thicket
#

We can get the shaded are by subtract the smaller triangle from the bigger one if you know what I mean

#

The base of both triangle are the same and heights can be found using Pythagore

spice aurora
woven thicket
#

Yeah

spice aurora
# woven thicket Yeah

if a is small square Length and b big square then it should be A= 1/2 ab - 1/2 a^2

#

yea i guess it is wrong

round geyser
#

Hey

#

There is 2 formulas you will use

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Difference of cubes and Quadratic formula

hidden birch
#

the original problem seems to be about factoring, not finding roots

#

it was a polynomial expression but not an equation (doesn't equate anything)

#

,rccw

somber drum
#

hi
say i had a line $y=-\frac{b}{a}x+b$ and i wanted the equation of a line parallel to it, thats offset by a vector of (a,b), how would i find it

obsidian monolithBOT
willow skiff
sonic hill
willow skiff
#

so just $y - 2b = -\frac{b}{a} (x - a)$ cause that passes through $(a, 2b)$ automatically

sonic hill
#

Do you mean it passes through (a,b) or that the line is somehow displaced some distance relative to one of its points?

willow skiff
sonic hill
willow skiff
#

oh wait I did it slightly wrong

willow skiff
somber drum
willow skiff
#

so you would want the line to go through (0, b) + (a, b) = (a, 2b)

willow skiff
somber drum
#

oh ok

willow skiff
#

the equation for a line with slope m to pass through a given point

obsidian monolithBOT
sonic hill
#

uh

#

y - y1 = m(x - x1)

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where (x1,y1) is the point you want the line to pass through and m is the slope

somber drum
#

ty :)

#

okay problem its not doing what i want it to do 😭

willow skiff
#

what do you want it to do?

somber drum
#

okay so i was trying to make a graph thats basically the pythagorean theorem, the squares a and b work fine but whenever a≠b the purple square (c squared) gets.. funky
the graph for reference

sonic hill
#

Hmm

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Shouldn't it be this?

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Before the transformation it passes through (0,b), after the transformation it passes through (x1, b + y1), so point slope gives you y = m(x - x1) + b + y1

willow skiff
somber drum
#

so like.. got any fixes 😭

sonic hill
#

The vector is always (a,b)

willow skiff
#

after the transformation it passes through (0, b) + (a, b)

sonic hill
#

y = m(x - x1) + b + y1 = m(x - a) + 2b

#

I just generalized

sonic hill
#

It's not $y - 2b = -\frac{b}{a}(x-a)+b$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

pebble

willow skiff
#

oh lol, corrected

sonic hill
#

it's supposed to be $y=-\frac{b}{a}(x-a)+2b$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

pebble

sonic hill
#

lol

#

Assuming that -b/a is the correc tslope

willow skiff
#

hopefully the most recent one works

somber drum
#

oh okay

sonic hill
somber drum
somber drum
sonic hill
#

hmm, let me think

willow skiff
sonic hill
#

What's the specification of this triangle?

#

Is it axis aligned, right triangle, what about the angles?

somber drum
sonic hill
#

Or do you just specify the a and b length

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and a is the length along the x axis toward the right, b is the length along the y axis upward?

somber drum
#

yes

sonic hill
#

That's it?

somber drum
#

yeah

sonic hill
#

Alright, so the slope would in fact be -b/a.

somber drum
#

everything ive done has worked up until finding the parallel line which is for c^2

willow skiff
#

you're not translating the line by a perpendicular distance of sqrt(a^2 + b^2)

sonic hill
#

$-\frac{b}{a}\left(x-\left(a+b\right)\right)+a$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

pebble

somber drum
#

whagt

#

should i try that?

sonic hill
#

wait

#

hold on

somber drum
#

kk

sonic hill
#

I'm making a diagram to show you

willow skiff
#

I fixed it for you

sonic hill
willow skiff
#

$y-\left(a+b\right) = -\frac{b}{a}\left(x-b\right)$

#

yep!

obsidian monolithBOT
sonic hill
#

You see, I've just taken the same triangle and moved it

willow skiff
#

they work out to the same thing

somber drum
#

oh

#

thank you 😭

willow skiff
#

no worries!

somber drum
#

thanks guys :>

somber drum
#

hi guys im confused again 😭

#

so i was labelling right, i was putting the values in the middle of the square but um, how do i get the coordinate for the middle of c²

sonic hill
somber drum
#

?

sonic hill
#

Like

hushed sphinx
#

@woven thicket please don't delete modpings -- that does not make the ping itself go away, and just makes it more difficult to have to look around to "why was there a ping in this channel".

sonic hill
# somber drum ?

The square c has four corners right? So add up the x components for each corner, and divide by 4 to get the center of the square in the x. Then do the same for the y components

woven thicket
sonic hill
#

$x_{\text{center}}=\frac{1}{4}(x_1+x_2+x_3+x_4)$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

pebble

somber drum
#

oh

somber drum
obsidian monolithBOT
somber drum
#

or just

#

$\left(\frac{a+b}{2},\frac{a+b}{2}\right)$

obsidian monolithBOT
sonic hill
#

For c^2?

#

Or

#

the center of it?

somber drum
#

the centre

sonic hill
#

Interesting

#

yeah

#

makes sense

somber drum
#

its cause the points are
0,b
a,0
b,a+b
a+b,a

#

so for x its 2a+2b all over 4 and y is 2a+2b all over 4

sonic hill
#

yep

somber drum
#

this is probably just a desmos thing now but how could i display the actual area of a², b², or c²

woven thicket
somber drum
#

huh

sonic hill
#

Uhh

woven thicket
#

I was finding the center... just want to post another approach

somber drum
#

oh

round geyser
#

You sum the two squares and it will give you c^2

somber drum
hushed sphinx
#

Interesting that the line to the center of the square on the hypotenuse always bisects the right angle.

somber drum
#

oh wait really

sonic hill
#

arctan(y/x) = 45 deg

#

very interesting indeed

somber drum
sonic hill
#

uh

#

probably use a circle

somber drum
#

what if like the angle changes....

#

frick im gonna have to use a bunch of stupid trig

somber drum
ember ore
#

hi

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@everyone

#

oh mb wrong chat

last pecan
#

guys whats harder, Alg 2 or precalc

icy verge
last pecan
#

i hate alg 2

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i hate pascals triangle

#

and dividing and subtracting and adding rational equations

lost helm
#

Can anyone help me qith calc

willow bear
viscid thistle
#

3

sick crystal
#

Guys can anyine help on this $y=\frac{1}{\ln^{2}\left(2x-1\right)}$

obsidian monolithBOT
#

nomaidens

sick crystal
#

This is screwed

#

why is it shaped like that? how can i know how to sketch it on exam, for which x are y values positive..

hidden coyote
#

thats how it should look like on a graph

signal crypt
hidden coyote
#

oh shoot yes

#

forgot to make it negative

sick crystal
# hidden coyote

so you used some derivation, on end it looks worse, and how do you still know how the graph looks?

#

the usual log graph looks very differently

signal crypt
#

,w differentiate (1/(ln^2(2x-1)))

obsidian monolithBOT
round geyser
#

,w graph log(x)

obsidian monolithBOT
round geyser
#

,w graph e(x)

obsidian monolithBOT
round geyser
#

,w graph e^(x)

obsidian monolithBOT
round geyser
#

,w graph ln(x)

obsidian monolithBOT
dense mango
#

how do one-sided derivatives work? in the original definition of the derivative, there's lim as h (growth) approaches 0. so how does h -> 0+ or h -> 0- make sense? I can't wrap my head around this

somber void
#

in normal derivative you pick point (x, f(x)) on the curve and then consider points (x+h, f(x+h)) where h is small (and approaches 0), but could be negative or positive.
For one sided it is either only positive or only negative. afaik

grave flame
#

Is there a book that could help me study pre calculus on my own

#

Do you guys know any?

lost helm
#

@grave flame use khan academy, books i don't know any that could help

#

Or actually use college prep books from the official website

hushed sphinx
# dense mango how do one-sided derivatives work? in the original definition of the derivative,...

This is #calculus rather than pre-calculus, but:
If the derivative exists at some point, the one-sided derivatives will also exists and have the same value. So they're not very interesting in that case.
It becomes more interesting then the full derivative doesn't exist. Then we might still be lucky enough that the one-sided derivatives do exist and can capture at least something about how the function behaves, even if it's not as nice as an actual derivative would be.

celest lantern
#

For question 9 what do I do after this?

#

I found the roc but how do I continue

uncut mulch
#

,rotate

obsidian monolithBOT
celest lantern
#

???

placid pebble
#

,w graph log(x)

#

,w graph x^2+secx-1=y

obsidian monolithBOT
placid pebble
#

,w graph log(x)sin^-1(y)

obsidian monolithBOT
bitter pier
#

i am doing right guys?

willow skiff
#

but you can multiply $\frac{1}{1 - \sin x}$ by $\frac{?}{?}$ to make the denominator not have that problem anymore

obsidian monolithBOT
willow skiff
bitter pier
#

i use pythagorean identities in the 4th line

willow skiff
#

$\sin^2 x (1 - \sin x) = \sin^2 x - \sin^3 x$

obsidian monolithBOT
bitter pier
willow skiff
willow skiff
round geyser
round geyser
paper thistle
dense zealot
#

<@&268886789983436800>

tepid widget
river drift
#

@grizzled jewel this is a channel for on topic conversation about math. please keep memes in #chill

echo sinew
#

It's 4! - 5

#

Now stop trolling

#

<@&268886789983436800>

paper thistle
willow breach
modern zodiac
willow skiff
modern zodiac
#

They didn't want to go to dms

willow skiff
modern zodiac
#

Sorry, I'll use the correct channel from now on.

unborn dune
#

how do i find all theta this is what i have rn

#

i know sin theta can be 1/2 but that cancels out all cosines

#

and isnt the only solution

red storm
#

try using power reduction formula to write cos(t) in terms of sin(t)

#

i think it would help to add 0 inside the argument so it turns into a multiple of 2

viscid thistle
#

how to learn precalculus

muted widget
viscid thistle
#

i do

willow skiff
#

Khan Academy

viscid thistle
errant shard
#

Erm why can't I access the calculus channel??

#

Pre uni thing, no?

acoustic apex
pine geyser
willow skiff
#

who can spell prosthaphaeresis without looking it up

pine geyser
umbral dew
#

thinking out of the box bro

main bone
median spear
#

it's easy to spell and the only time I heard it was in a TV show

fading iris
#

I love adding prefixes and suffixed to make words

#

Priorianticircumnavigationalisticians

autumn harness
#

i mean i guess bro

thick blade
#

same answer different approaches

round geyser
#

How can a trig equation relate to unit circles

willow skiff
tepid widget
somber void
#

because trig is about angles, and angles are defined as paths along a circle

round geyser
#

That’s linear

#

And I get 0.71…

sonic hill
#

What's linear?

round geyser
#

That rim that touched (cos,sin)

sonic hill
#

.71 for what?

round geyser
#

Sqrt(2)/2

sonic hill
#

Mhm

#

What's the issue?

round geyser
#

I wonder is that the invention of trig

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Like as radical

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Like linear graph goes through 30 degree and 210 degree

#

I wonder how many degrees does quadratic goes through

sonic hill
#

Uh

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Well the idea is kind of a ray that rotates about the origin

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not a parabola

silver mason
#

how is this the same