#geometry-and-trigonometry
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Yeah
Swedish
En cirkel tangerar linjen 3x-4y=0 på punkten (8,6)
Tangerar is the veb
Verb
okay so that sounds like... touch
a circle touches the line 3x-4y=0 at the point (8,6)
Yes
and you are asked for its center
Whats the midpoint yes
I used the midpoint formula
(x1+x2)/2 (y1+y2)/2
I used another point (0,0)
Which I thought I could do idk
Oh sorry, the center then.
(Was called midpoint on the exam tho)
I think cuz the line seg. goes through the circle
Like a diameter and radius
Center is the midpoint of a diameter, yes.
I haven’t actually looked at the problem. Just clarified why it might have been called a midpoint.
I am not really in a place to sit down and help, sorry.
That's fine
this is how I thought the graph looked like
but it could have been a teeny tiny circle too so I am just dazed
You said “tangents”, but the circle in the picture you just show isn't tangent to the line 3x - 4y = 0.
Y'know what, I will try
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the question asking for something like this?
that's what I had in mind too
but the wording was kind of vague from the translation so not 100%
yes
SORRY GUYS
THATS WHAT I MEANT
Oops caps
the pic elon musk sent, something like that is what i meant
WAIT
OH YEAHHHHH THE CIRCLE IS TANGENT TO THE LINE
FUCK
I made it so the line goes through shit
anyways can you explain how to find the center?
well are many things we could do
firstly, we can show that the point of tangency of the circle and the x-axis is (10,0)
this is because the lengths of the tangents are the same
so what does it mean that the point of tangency of the circle is (10,0)
means we can go up draw a line
thats the center?
i would probably do sth like
this
we can solve for the center by finding the equations of the two blue lines and then solve for when they intersect
:)
OMFG
NOOOOOOOO
i knew it was too good to be true
and the distance I knew it was 10 cuz of 8^2+6^2
sqrt(100)
very nice thanks man
You're welcome 🤗
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Use pythagorean theorem but now you want b^2
This one basically use trigonometry. But we can approximate by using the first few terms from infinite series of sin(x) and/or cos(x) [in radians]
(Unrelated to question above) "Parallel lines are two lines that never meet. Find an example that contradicts this definition. How would you change the definition to make it more accurate?"
for the first part of the question I'm having trouble figuring out an example of a parallel line that contradicts the afore mentioned definition
I think this is like "Hey, we want to find right triangle that doesn't follow the Pythagorean theorem"
Ever wonder what happens when you combine graphing algebraic curves with drawing in perspective? The result uncovers some beautiful relationships between seemingly different shapes, and all because of what happens when you include infinity through projective geometry.
This video was a project for MA 721 - Projective Geometry, as part of the Ma...
(Arya can I DM you?)
this might be useful?
not sure though
hope that is what you were looking for
you dont need to ask to ask
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is there a trigonometric rule for finding the height of the right triangle with 20 degrees?
I mean, atan will be (x/3) in this case
I'm pretty sure it's yes. But unfortunately, it uses cube roots and the formula is more complicated
cubic roots in trigonometry? When are cubic roots used in trigonometry?
which question are you talking about? i also want to know
"Is there a trigonometric rule for finding the height of the right triangle with 20°?
I mean, atan will be (x/3) in this case", he/she said
Let's take the example for cos(3x). Look,
cos(3x) = 4cos³(x) - cos(x).
Substitute x = t/3 and we get
cos(t) = 4cos³(t/3) - cos(t/3)
Now the real challenge is solve the cubic equation in terms of cos(t/3).
And surprisingly, it's possible.
Unsurprisingly, it's more complicated than quadratic equation
And If you want to see the cubic equation, it uses cube roots and square root inside it.
I think I should do this on Khan Academy
but ffs my school doesn't even go through trigonometry
alright then, show it for this case
The cubic equation is proven to be solvable. I'm not gonna do that this time
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in r=+-sqrt(x^2+y^2) is +- determined by the quadrants the given coordinates (such as (1,4) are in on the tangent graph?
what;s your issue with this question?
that shaped is composed of 6 equilateral triangles
I have question i have to prove that BO AND EC make 90 degrees
It’s given that EOC =90 and BEO AND BCO = 90 and this shape total angles is 360 so EBC = 90 too
EB =BC and CO = EO
so this shape is dalton (or wt ever it’s name in English ) is that right ??
,rotate
I make the accurate version of your drawing
Thx
it’s given that EOC = 90
And BEO = BCO =90 right
And this shape angles is 360 so EBC also 90 right ?
So EO = OC =r and BE =BC
What this shape called in English xd ?
3 sides r equals and the angles in front of each other’s r also equals
Why 95 ?
It's 45°, not 95°
But why u write CB and BE = r ?
Because it forms a rectangle OCBE. But since those two adjacent sides have the same length, OCBE is a square
I think the answer is greatest common factor of 1186 and 4151
(593)
why will it be the greatest common factor
shouldnt it be like 2
cuz at max u can have 1 edge touching 1 edge of the other polygon
we'll talk about vertex, not edge
ye i know
in 1 edge u have 2 verticies
so at max u can have 2 vertices from each polygon touching each other
but why?
at max only 1 edge can touch which is 2 vertices touching
How do you make a circle in GeoGebra freely?
wuts geogebra?
A graphing calculator
can someone enlighten me
ye ye
I forgot how to answer this step by step
which one?
what are u supposed to find?
sin 30
Sin(30)=1/2
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Couldn't find an attached image in the last 10 messages.
.-.
wait guys sin 60 is 1/root 2 right?
dude geo
here
applies for all 30 : 60 : 90 triangles
I use mobile for using Geogebra. I'm pretty sure that the same procedure can happen on computer.
Oh thank you a lot.
is this guy a bot or a real person cuz he just does not not know an answer to a question
A person
What?
i k n o w
Arya is smart.
Nah I'm not that smart, but why can't I be smarter than myself in the past?
Knowledge is great
I use the hand trick
I know them by heart
how
this seems silly and more difficult than just thinking about the literal 45-45-90 and 30-60-90 triangles
have you done problems like this before but with only one angle?
such as "given sin(x) = [number] and x in such-and-such quadrant, find tan(x)" or whatever
sin(A+B) = sinA cosB + cosA sinB, you're given sinA which is -(6/7), you can use tanB to find sinB. cosA = sqrt of 1-sin^2A, so you just need to find sinB
If I'm not mistaken
You messed up the angle sum formula
It’s good now
Don’t think so, it’s different.
Okay
ooh ok got it thx!
Explain briefly, in words, how you would determine which equivalent trigonometric identities can be used in a
scenario modelled by the following diagram.
could someone help me with this?
sinx = (45/53)
then sin ^-1(45/53)
i feel bad for the 8th graders in my school who taking geometry and trigonometry this looks scary
What are you exactly lookin for?
The area of the triangle created?
In that case it is sin x × cos x × 0.5 i think
you must first find the base area of the triangle, the height which you need to find using pythagoras theorem
so 6^2 yd - 5.5^2 yds = height of the triangle
then when you have calculated the area of the triangle, you multiply the area by the height, then divide the product by three
that way, you should get the volume of the triangular pyramid
I hope this helped
school overcomplicates maths imo. The teachers should explain why you are learning trigonometry and calculus etc, it would engage the students a lot more
omg they take math as something like if u dont memorize a formula youll be stupid
My teacher wrote his master of education how there is 2 types of doing maths
One type is doing it through understanding the other through memorizing
Of course the understanding one has better chances but it's not easy to make someone understand maths especially in higher maths since it gets more abstract
Easiest question ever
Use the inverse trigonometric formulas to find the angle
very confused on what im supposed to be trying to find the area of
means entire trapezoid i think
This is what I made using Geogebra
^
The trapezoid
(or find the area of the rectangle then add it together with the area of the triangle however that doesn't really work here)
A polygon of n sides has 𝑛(𝑛−3)/2
diagonals. How many sides a polygon has with 54
diagonals?
i got the answer but would appreciate if anyone would give suitable explaination
do you want an explanation of how the formula came about, or an explanation of how to use the formula to solve the problem?
@still hatch
I would like both pls@dark sparrow
cuz I didn't used any formula
i want to see how it's done so yeah
which one first?
to derive the formula: fix one of the vertices, and observe that it has n-3 diagonals coming out of it: one each to each vertex other than the one we started with & its two neighbors. adding n copies of this together (one for each choice of starting vertex) gives n(n-3), but doing this counts each diagonal exactly twice, so we divide by 2 to get the true number of diagonals.
to solve the problem: solve the equation n(n-3)/2 = 54 for n.
🙏 thanks
I have a quick question: Is the formula for a mathematical pendulum's oscillation time (the unprecise one) the same as taking the area of the triangle that's formed in the circle
mg*sin(v)
I need help with this problem
Have you tried anything?
No I'm not sure what to put for a and b
Say you roll a die. What is the probability of you getting a 1?
1/6?
So for the red die is it 3/6 or 1/2? And for the green die it's 2/6?
justify your claims : }
Because there are 3 numbers on a die bigger than 3 and 2 that smaller
could you list them for me please?
which numbers on a die are greater than 3?
and which ones are smaller than 3?
Bigger: 4 5 6
Smaller: 2 1
ah, i'm sorry.. i was thinking otherwise
so your claims are true!
now
what's P(A) and P(B) then?
P(A) would be 3/6 and P(B) would be 2/6
correct! now.. what about P(A and B)?
P(3/6 and 2/6)
not really, no
Do you add them?
event A is that the outcome of the red die is greater than 3. event B is that the outcome of the green die is smaller than 3. are the events dependent or independent?
For independent events A and B, P(A and B) = P(A)*P(B). So you multiply the probabilities.
So P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A and B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A)*P(B). Don't forget to reduce your answer to lowest terms as your question asks you to.
Independent
indeed
so you can use this
wait
err.. thinks
yea right, you can use this
So P(1/2) + P(1/3) - P(1/2) × P(1/3)?
now correct what you wrote here
1/2 + 1/3 - 1/2 × 1/3
and that simplifies to?
2/5 - 1/6
what does that simplify to?
1?
Is it 2/6?
no : |
do you know how to add fractions
Wait it's 5/6
Tell me. Did you just crunch them in a calculator? stares intimidatingly
Yes
you really should review fraction arithmetic
you will get nowhere in probability if you do not know how to add fractions
I'll do it when I have spare time
apparently my spare time's over so.. good luck!
Ok
Ok I got a little refresher on adding fractions and it's 1/6
Idk where else to put it
what's "it"
1/2 + 1/3 definitely is not 1/6
1/2 + 1/3 - 1/6 definitely is not 1/6 either
I thought you were supposed to multiply the numerators and denominators
i thought you were supposed to not be cryptic in what you mean when you say "it"
it is not clear what you were trying to do and why you got 1/6 and what you were supposed to do instead and where exactly you messed up
I'm trying to do 1/2 + 1/3
okay
and if you tried to claim that this is (1 * 1)/(2 * 3), then congratulations, you correctly multiplied those fractions together.
you multiplied, but you were supposed to add.
I thought that's how you add
no, that's not how you add fractions. that's how you multiply them.
by your logic, two halves added together make a quarter and not a whole
which should strike you as nonsense
1/2 + 1/3 is 5/6, yes.
I said that before and you guys made it seem like it was wrong
It wasn't wrong. But you shouldn't have used a calculator, is what I'd meant.
Oh ok
Alright so to continue the problem it simplifies to 5/6 - 1/6
This simplifies further, of course. Do it.
Simplified it would be 2/3
Did you use a calculator again? stares intimidatingly
No I did 5-1 and got 4/6 then simplified that
Hm. Tell me what 5/6 - 1/5 would simplify to.
Don't you need common denominators to subtract?
it makes life easier, but it's not necessary
what's 5/6 - 1/5?
Alright one sec let me do the maths
DO NOT use a calculator
I won't
19/30
very good!
this is your answer
Cool thanks
Want another similar problem to check if you actually got it?
No I have more like this one on my computer
Ah. Best of luck with them!
Thanks
Can someone help me with this
choose a diagonal and divide it in half
Bro idk what a diagonal is man I’m dumb as shjt
so so one diagonal would be (2,4) to (4,-4)
so the ((2 + 4)/2),(4+-4)/2)
which is (3,0)
Ok thanks man
you could also choose the other diagonal
help pls
Dude I’m screwed I have a geomtry assignment by 8:25 and I don’t know like any of it I have to go to tutoring I think
then AC = sqrt(6^2 + sqrt(40^2))
AC = sqrt(36 + sqrt(40))
which is the answer but i would use a calculator
Contrapostive is like all opposite right
idunno what contrapositive is
I have this like 20 question practice I have to do for a grade I can repeat it but this stuff is hard
the line of reflectoin is the origin i think
but idunno which one that is from the multiple choice
i guess its y=x and not origin
just because the other 3 arnt right
Thanks
idunno
This one I think is more advanced im sorry
i wouoldnt do y=x actually
Damn
You on something man damn
This one is less confusing but I don’t really understand it to much
I only have like 2 questions left do you think you could help me with them
mebbe
was it 130?
i think its H
its basically asking how to draw a perindicular line using a special tool
but dont do h yet
caause i dunno
It wasn’t right and I’m kinda fed I need to get 2 more right
😦
that was luck lol
bisector is the middle of the line
maybe use a ruler?
thats a weird question being on a computer screen
I went with x and was correct
ok nice good job
H
H
H
I can’t thank you enough you saved me dude
okay np
missed class when learning this- how would i solve sinθ=-.7 from 0 to 2pi. ive figured out how to graph it with desmos but i dont know how to actually find the answers algebraically
You need to solve for theta?
Sin^-1 (-0.7) is -45 or -pi/4 (approx.)
More accurately, it would be 44.5 ish
I have this geometry problem to show that the side of a rectangle with an inscribed 'snowflake'(beginning of fractal) is 1 by 2/3 sqrt3. It seems quite straightforward but using 30 60 90 triangles i can't seem to solve it..
geometry question , what is sinus ? (sin)
sine is a trigonometric function
ye ye i know but like what is it?
there are multiple levels of answers to that
but like what should i imagine if we re talking bout sinus , like wtf is that alien shit
think of it as a function that can do certain things
in a right triangle
the sine of an acute angle gives the ratio of the side opposite that angle and the hypotenuse
and you can also consider the unit circle definition
what is the calculation behind trigonometric functions
what does your calculator do when you take the sine of a number
Perpendicular divided by Hypotenuse Of a right angled triangle in accordance with an angle.
yea yea okey okey i exactly understand what u mean
its so easy
It is quite easy but it's application ranges from easy to extremely hard.
It's more like a tool
Bro no one is that free to tutor you every day. Can surely help you on a concept or two but asking for a tutor is probably too much.
can you slice a tetrahedron and make a square cross section?
Yes
It can be a square
Ok thanks
I'm not sure if this is considered Algebra or Geometry but I've been put of school all week because I've been sick and I'm extremely confused. Can someone help?
Just cube root it
As volume is mentioned in unit ^3
How do I cube root it on a online calculator?
Do you divide the number by 3?
Do you know it?
Not really.
Ok
So volume of a cube is Side ^ 3
Or side x side x side
So you're given Side ^3 = 216
What's Side?
Side will be root cube of 216
You know what's a root cube?
You know what's a square root?
Yes
Man you will have to study about them from your school textbook before doing these questions.
I dont have a textbook for this year 😅
Then you can look up online what are square , square roots, cubes and cube roots.
There you'll find a detailed explanation
You can try Khan Academy or YouTube
Alright thanks.
I have a question. Two cards are selected from a well-shuffled deck of 52 playing cards. What is the probability that neither of them is an ace? My question is would I do 48/52 times 47/51?
ok I thought so
-> #probability-statistics tho
ok
48C2 / 52C2
~~ 0.85 . So yep your answer is correct
Have been struggling with this question lately and would greatly appreciate it if someone could give me some tips or advice on how to solve it. Thank You.
I wonder if the author of that problem has ever seen any video of a rocket launch. They generally pitch over (i.e., stop following a vertical line through the launch pad) long before they "disappear from view". That makes the task woefully underspecified, even if we assume that "disappearing from view" is somehow an intrinsic event that happens at the same time no matter where you're viewing the launch from.
Yes, you're correct, however, I'm not sure how i could use it to find the altitude tho, along with the angles of elevation
I have a coordinate system, shown in black below, in which a point is situated along the 𝑥-axis. There is a different coordinate system rotated along the 𝑧-axis by 𝑎 degrees, shown in red in the figure. I can switch between these two systems by a rotation matrix 𝑅.
Two lines (in the black coordinate system) have constant 𝑦-values. These two lines intersect the projections of the 𝑥-point onto the red coordinate system.
I would like to find these two points 𝑃1 and 𝑃2, but it is not clear to me how I can do that. Can I get a hint?
enter image description here
Is the point x supposed to lie on the red line between p1 and p2?
"Let ABC be a triangle with AC < BC. The circle with center C going through B intersects the line AC in D. The line DI, with I being the incenter of ABC, intersects the circle around C in another point (E).
Prove that CE is tangent to the circumcircle of ABC."
or something like that, I'm not really good at translating
whats F for
oh
ignore it
Altitude of rocket would be 3.11 km and the distance of Alessio would be 5 km from launch pad.
sorry i couldnt solve it, imma keep it and lyk if i solve it
@sly vale your correct! I just did the calculations, and the total distance from the launching pad was 5km and the altitude (h) of the rocket was 3.1 km. However my text book says it is 4.2 km...
I'm not sure why, but 4.2 km was the distance between beni and the launching pad, though.
That's for Beni
4.2 km for Beni and 5km for Alessio
Yes
Okay, than I have no idea why my textbook says it is 4.2km for some reason
It's wrong
I'll have to consult my teacher about this, this textbook has had numerous mistakes from the past chapter...
Most probably a printing mistake
Definitely, but thank you for the support 💖
Welcome
Then you know the angle between the red line and the black x-axis, so you can draw some right triangles and use trigonometry to find the diffence in x-coordinate betwen x and p1 or p2.
We can see that DAIB is cyclic because angle CDI=angle CBI(by symmetry)=angle ABI
Then angle BAC=2angle BAI=2angle BDI=angle BCE(by inscribed angle thm)
Then done by tangent chord thm or sth
oohhh
thx
Can someone help me with this exponential regression problem that i've been having trouble with
i tried a help room but the person didn't know how to solve these types of problems
@Rock123222#6687 just put some ice in the soup it ll be quicker
put y = 80 and solve for x in the equation in part (a)
when you've finshed you may use wolfram alpha to check your answer
,w solve 80 = 180(0.9)^x
Note that for temperatures,, a function of the form 180·0.9^x doesn't really make sense -- that would mean that if left for long enough, the temperature of the soup would approach 0 °F -- but the zero point of the Fahrenheit scale is arbitrary, not something soup will spontaneously converge towards in the real world.
The exercise is almost certainly looking for a best-fit solution in the form f(t) = b·a^t+c rather than just b·a^t.
(Hmm, the asker already left. Oh well.)
Could somebody help me?
Al I got is a triangle with 1 know side but don't know hot to continue.
Thanks in advance
That's what i got so far.
Let d equal distance of the person from the wall.
tan = (altitude of painting-altitude of eyes)/d
Instead of solving for theta, the question asks for a general expression of tan of given a distance.
Why do you subtract 1.75 from 2.25?
You already got 2.25 by subtracting 1.75 from 3+1...
I find it unclear in the problem whether the angle it is talking about is the angle to the top of the painting (as in your sketch) or the middle of the painting -- as well as whether the 3 meters are measured between the floor and the top, middle, or center of the painting. The best you can do is probably to explicitly state what your assumptions are in the solution.
Yeah thanks
You got some more time @grave pond struggeling with another question as well trigonometry really fucks with me
In truth I don't really. Trying to pry myself away from the laptop ...
No problem have a good day
Why a line in hyperbolic geometry must contain two distinct ideal points?
Anyone able to help me with this? I don't really understand the question and got it wrong the last time I did this same practice exam (not for a grade)
Please help
is 91 degrees trisectable?
that's impossible by compass and straightedge construction
consider
,,\cos(3x) = 4\cos^3(x) - 3\cos(x)
vin100
$z = \cos(x)$ is the root of the cubic polynomial
vin100
,,4z^3-3z-\cos(3x) = 0
vin100
for a fixed $x$
vin100
so the extension degree $[\Bbb{F}(\cos(x)):\Bbb{F}(\cos(3x))] = 3$ if $\cos(3x)$ isn't constructible
vin100
here $\Bbb{F}$ is a field of constructible numbers
vin100
classical rule & compass construction can only construct numbers whose extension degree with respect to $\Bbb{F}$ is a power of 2.
vin100
to trisect 91°, you're constructing (91/3)°
math help channel
are you aware of what the channel you’re in is called
yes
once we know that an angle of 91° isn't constructible by rule & compass, then we may apply the above arguments with x = (91/3)° to conclude that that's not construtible.
looking back the condition that $\cos(3x)$ isn't constructible is too strong. i've quit U for a few yrs. i can only recall the rough ideas.
vin100
but once we can that $\cos(91\pi/180)$ isn't constructible, then we would see that the desired trisected angle is neither constructible.
vin100
by a rotation of right angle, we see that that's equivalent to asking whether $\cos(\pi/180)$ is constructible
vin100
for this question i assumed for all x in S² that f(x) is in S² too and tried to reach a contradiction. if T is a translation T(x)=x+b b≠0 then ||T(b/||b||)|| = ||b/||b||+b|| = ||b||+1 > 1, which means f can't contain any translations (reflections in parallel planes), so its decomposition of 4 reflections which preserves orientation must be 2 rotations, 1 rotation and 2 reflections, or 4 reflections. Since the pairs of reflections aren't translations, they're rotations around the intersection of the planes, so we just have 2 rotations either way. But that can cancel to just 1 rotation, which contradicts the fact that f is no fewer than 4 reflections. Is this correct
I need help with these problems
thx so much! the last point is a good point
but if we suppose 91 degrees to be constructible, would it be trisectable?
guys where do i learn intermediate trignometry?
It would be C. Basically you use the top number and multiply it to what t is. Then you use that number for t and use algebra from there. Add each sum.
Is it okay to give the answer or nah?
I believe 3pi/7 is trisectable but not constructible for example. I'm having trouble finding a definitive way to determine if some angle is trisectable
wuts trisectable?
To divide into three equal parts
check if its divisible by 3?
Yea
ah ok
the premise "91° is constructible by rule & compass" is false, so whatever the following conclusion is, the implication is logically true, but meaningless.
from the half-angle formula for cosines
,,\cos(\frac{x}{2}) = \pm\sqrt{\frac{1+\cos(x)}{2}},
vin100
so we consider $\cos(\pi/45)$. apply the tripe angle formula to see that it's of extension degree 3 from the field $\Bbb{F}$ equiped with $\cos(\pi/15)$, which is not constructible since that again of extension degree 3 from $\Bbb{F}(\cos(pi/5))$.
vin100
It may be useful to some of you to know there is a rational parametrization of the unit circle
It is e(t)= [(1–t^2)/(1+t^2), 2t/(1+t^2)]
This gives you all rational points on the unit circle except for [–1, 0] but we can modify our previous parametrization to get
e(u : t)= [(u^2–t^2)/(u^2+t^2), 2ut/(u^2+t^2)] (know that a : b is the proportion of a to b and a : b= c : d if and only if ad–bc= 0) now all rational points on the unit circle can be reached through this modified parametrization e(0 : t)= [–1, 0] and e(1 : t)= e(t)
Quick question, for a cut hollow cylinder, how do I find the surface area of that segment/chrod if I have its radius
Its arc length is 24.74 cm
but the segment is 6 cm
geometry: how to find the missing value
apply formula for volume
oh thats actually cool
it is pretty simple
First, we know r = 8
We also remember that circle's area is πr²
Area of the sector is just α/360° * circle area, so, in final we get 80/360 * 3.14 * 8², and you can calculate that
Circle circumference is 2πr, knowing r = 5 cm, it is 10π.
Remembering that arc is a part of the circle again, the length is just (substituting for π) 72/360 * 10 cm * 3.14, which you can calculate too
how to solve for x and y?
this question is impossible to answer until you've posted a problem
if you had a similar question but with only one variable, would you be able to do it?
u can take 17x-70 = X
3y + 5 = Y
5y+15 = Z
2x+5 = A
u dont need to :U
actually its simple
17x-70 = 3y+5
thats a hint
i dont know how to calculate the area of a sector bruh i forgot to learn
isn't it just logic
i know
wuts the formula
im lazy to use logic
._.
you don't even have to learn it tho
just α/360° * πr^2, and if you use radians it' just α/2 * r^2
f
he screwed up his exam XD
i don't even have trigonometry
i just started learning so i basically dont
though it's not trigonometry
ye
though I somewhat know it (trig) since it's pretty simple
ye its a part of a circle
so u calculate full area of circle
and find out how much of the circle
and multiply
easy 5th grade math
like they even know what pi is
XD
not like i didnt learn in 5th
well we did know
though we didn't pass circles on geometry yet
XD
I mean I am in like 7th grade
and even though my class is math one it's still slow
so I just cover math by myself
ye its what i hate about my school math
I mean how can you live without trigonometry
it doesnt teach what im learning at home
just boring at school
:U
we havent started trig and im in 9th.
they start in 10th
how bad is this school
we start in 8th
it is not indian
school №1540
I mean it's just a school
ok

got it got it
Has anyone here taken the Geometry SOL
Hi could anyone kindly go through how the ans (2nd pic) solves the qn (1st pic)? Been looking at the ans for a while but not really sure what's the approach used
You can find sin c by making a triangle with the tan c value
Looks like you just expand sin(x+c) into sinxcosc+cosxsinc
Find cosc as well
Also you didn't give all the information provided for this question
oh ok thanks! Makes sense to use the sin expansion identity
That's the whole qn actually haha
Can anyone help me with unit vectors
No shot that's all the information
I don't believe that
really lol
Nopee, it just starts with 1A-1 and so on
the information you thinking of is trigonometry identities?
no
Can someone fill this completely out with the correct answers and message me when complete please and thank you
Can anyone help me understand unit circles?
I cannot do them fast enough and always get it wrong
This server isn’t meant for you to solicit completed assignments. #❓how-to-get-help
Is this true?
I mean proving
$$\alpha = 2\beta \Leftarrow a = b$$
is easy for me. But how about the other way?
Si Arya
Suppose on the contrary that a ≠ b. Then there must exist some other point on side a that is b units away from the uppermost point
I think you can fork out some sort of contradiction from there
Well.. I don’t think we have to use a “contradiction” proof; a phantom point construction will work as well
unit circles are circles with radius 1
you can prove it like this
Thanks. And now we want to prove the converse of that.\
$\alpha = 2\beta \implies a = b$
Si Arya
Well since $\alpha=2\beta, AD=AC \implies B\in k(A,AB)\implies AB=AC=AD=a=b$
Лукар
I feel like you’re skimming over the most important part here… how did you get “B ∈ k(A,AB)”?
It might be better to prove the contrapositive first.\
$a\neq b \implies \alpha \neq 2\beta$
Si Arya
Are BB1 and AA1 angle bisectors(just making sure)
if AA1 and BB1 are bisectors then this is good
well B is element of k(A,AB) cause the angle A (which is subtending BC)= 2 * angle D(which is subtending BC) so B must be a part of a circle centered at A
How can I prove this identity?
For the people who can't work with series notation, the left-hand side is sin(α) + sin(α + β) + sin(α + 2β) + ... + sin(α + (n - 1)β)
An example is sin(2°) + sin(4°) + sin(6°) + sin(8°) + ... + sin(176°) + sin(178°) (α = 2°, β = 2°, n = 90)
Basically the step in solving a problem I have stumbled upon and can't get over
My first thought is\
$\sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1}\sin(\alpha + k\beta)=\sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1} Im\left(e^{i(\alpha + k\beta)}\right) = Im\left(\sum_{k = 0}^{n - 1}e^{i(\alpha + k\beta)}\right)$
Si Arya
I would like the proof not to use the exp(x) function properties, also this is a sum anyway, when I need that exact formula
Maybe it is somehow connected to series like geometric or arithmetic
But I didn't study series yet so I am kind of stumbled. I could study them tomorrow though, but I don't think it will help that much
When I was in high school, I was fascinated with exponential function with complex indices, but with improved comprehension, I'm more comfortable explaining with trigo identies that you wanted
I mean I am not even in high school yet, just a year before it
exp(x) is cool but boring
you can use it sometimes because of its nice properties but I of course would like a more... trigonometric proof?
Let's consider a simpler problem: forget about the sine, just take sum on some consecutive terms in an arithmetic progression. The most difficult part is $$\sum_{k=1}^n k.$$. Gauss has a nice idea, but we would take a "differential approche", rather than his "global way". We observe that each term is "equidistant" with its two neighboring terms.
vin100
we write k to be a difference of two things, then do telescopic sums
,,k=(k+1/2)^2-(k-1/2)^2
vin100
This can be easily seen using difference of squares identity $a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b)$.
vin100
The choice of 1/2 is no magic
arithmetic))
,,k=\frac{(k+1/2)^2-(k-1/2)^2}{2}
vin100
is 1D-grid system just a line?
sorry to interrupt
I got that fixed.
It's like marks on a ruler. Sorry idk what's the right word in our daily lives.
But that doesn't affect the main idea.
,,\sum_{n=1}^N a_n = \sum_{n=1}^N (b_{n+1}-b_n) = b_{N+1}-b_1
vin100
I'm on 📱 excuse me for speed
no problem
The second sum is called telescopic sum.
ok, I will derive this sum by hand tomorrow (too late today)
That allows us to get the sum for n-th term
No worries it's also late on my side.
I'll just type so that you can read tmr
yeah of course
is a_n that k term but with index to clarify its... index?
well yes
why wouldn't it be
so you just have a set and a_n is it's nth element
vin100
oh ok
A set with order, or a sequence
$b$ is a hidden sequence to be found out
vin100
There're some rules to make an educated guess about this sequence
That might sound weird at the first time. Unluckily idk how to draw on mobile
Like Ms paint
there can be some apps you may download
wwwwww
my mobile has image editor for example with a marker
so you have a_n correspondence to b_? - b_?
uhh I am bad on terms, it has a better name
Yes, and I want the b_?'s in the middle cancel out.
hm
and what about fractional indices
is it like set length is 2 but there are 3 elements?
so you have {a,b,c} 's length 2
1 1.5 2
Sorry I'm not thinking about counting here. Actually I don't really care what's inside. Instead I'll focus on the boundaries
ok
so it gets shifted? and bigger by 1 in length?
It's just my personal habit that's not seen elsewhere.
The indices of b are shifted by 1/2
continue so I understand
Yeah nice catch
oh
just on the pic it looks like some items in a set are inbetween the items
My strange habit would turn out relevant to your desired identity coz in the denominator your see beta over two
lol
cool
anyways we shall continue on
Yes I give up on online drawing pad. I'm gonna download drawing app afterwards
The problem with splitting a_n with b_? using integer indices is that you can split that in at least two ways
a_n
| \
| \
b_n b_{n+1}
and
a similar picture for
,,a_n=b_n-b_{n-1}
vin100
so you can do both + and -?
That's in our construction of telescopic sums
yes, like you do it in one way or another
Represented in pictures, if we use integer-valued indices for b_n, you'd need to face "|\" vs "/|"
Could you explain how you find out the first phase like ą+B=64?
Let's get back to your problem. You have $(\sin(a+kb))_k$
vin100
It's like "arithmetic progression" wrapped with sines
Well you should notice triange ABO
and do sum of angles
Sorry I'm using latin alphabets to save time
yeah np
It's like a 1D grid system with points ...,a-b,a,a+b, a+2b,...
wrapped with sines
So we are writing each grid point as a difference of two terms
,,a_n = b_{n+1/2}-b_{n-1/2}
vin100
vin100
I wonder if you know sum-to-product and product to sum formulae
Nice observation of the principal behind
I don't think you will care about needing to do smth with sin or cos(kb)
since it's just sum in a sum, which is overly complicated and useless I think
triple angle formula would too complicated
Before I go out and take metro, I will type this:
And sin(a) + sin(b) = 2sin((a+b)/2)cos((a-b)/2) if I am not lying
observe that in our "splitting of a_n" into b_n, the n is the midpoint/average of the two indices in b_?
You've found the right formula
in face the (a+b)/2 captures this idea of "midpoint"
Ohhhh!!!
You might worry about the second factor containing (a-b)/2
but that depends on the grid length
note that our 1D grid has evenly-spaced grid points
I'll let you think about these observations and take a look in the metro compartment on my way home
ok, thank you very much! have a good day/night/whatever, I will work around this tomorrow since no time today (00:08 AM)
can anyone help.
√(24²-10²)
Pythagoras again
i got it wrong when i used pythag
?
it's Pythagorean theorem, don't you see
i did the pythagrous theorem and i got it wrong 🗿
I thought it was
well in the wrong place prob
or bad rounding
can you try..
oh sorry.
well it's still easy since it's just √(24²-5²)
Since if you connect center and chord ends you get an isosceles triangle with a height in it
For you it's a right triangle with legs 15 and 24
Angle R is the least
There is an interesting property of triangles
to the bigger side corresponds a bigger opposite angle
and in reverse
Oops sorry I've mistaken. Nice try but there's no difference of two terms on the LHS of this identity that you've quoted. That's important coz we're gonna do a telescopic sum to condense the entire sum into two terms
The one that we're searching should look like ?(a)-?(b) = sin((a+b)/2) * ?
The problem with sin(a) - sin(b) is that it "wraps the average (a+b)/2 with cosine"
A triangle ABC is intersected by a line I at point F on AB, point E on AC, and point D on
the extension of BC. If triangle ABD has a right angle at A, BC=CD=13, AD=24, and DE
bisects angle ADB, what is the length of AF?
I got 12/5 for this question however the answer is 24/5, can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong? thanks
I don’t really know how to do this one
Yeah but I don’t know which one
To choose the answer
None I just know they bisect each other
Reflexive thing
Sas
How do I know which one is the side and angles
I know some but not a whole lot this is my first year
I just forgot a lot of this stuff
So it is just Side side side
It is asking which Theron can be used to prove it is congruent so and you said their was 2 sides so is it h side-angle-side
I’m still confused
can any1 here, thats free, provide some assistance
i hope my lengthy introduction would convince you the choice of this formula
,,\cos \theta -\cos \varphi =-2\sin \left({\frac {\theta +\varphi }{2}}\right)\sin \left({\frac {\theta -\varphi }{2}}\right)
vin100
use $\theta = a + (k+1/2)b$, $\varphi = a + (k-1/2)b$.
vin100
their ``average'' is $a + kb$.
vin100
their ``semi-difference'' is $b/2$. observe that in the formula that i quoted, it's "wrapped by sine".
vin100
rearrange to match the term in the original sum
sum "average" = sum "difference"
,, \sin (a+kb) = -\frac12 \frac{\cos[a+(k+1/2)b] - \cos[a+(k-1/2)b]}{\sin(b/2)}
vin100
,, \begin{aligned}
& \sum_{k=0}^n \sin (a+kb) \
&= \sum_{k=0}^n -\frac12 \frac{\cos[a+(k+1/2)b] - \cos[a+(k-1/2)b]}{\sin(b/2)} \
&= -\frac{\cos[a+(n+1/2)b] - \cos[a-(1/2)b]}{2\sin(b/2)} \
&= \frac{\sin[a+(n/2)b]\sin[(n+1)b/2]}{\sin(b/2)}
\end{aligned}
vin100
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vin100
\begin{align}
a_k &= \sin (a+kb) \
b_{k+1/2} &= -\frac12 , \frac{\cos[a+(k+1/2)b]}{\sin(b/2)}
\end{align}
vin100
in the picture, $$a_1 + a_2 + \dots + a_n = b_{n+1/2} - b_{1/2}.$$
vin100
there's a deep math meaning behind this trigo identity. this gives us a way to find us the definite integral of the sine function.
use the formula $\pi r^2 \cdot \frac{\theta}{360^\circ}$
vin100
where $\theta$ is in degrees
vin100
say we have a closed interval [a,b] divided into n equal subintervals.
we write the partition P = {a = x₀, x₁, ..., xₙ = b}
xₖ = a + k Δx with k = 0, 1, ..., n.
the sum of the area of "these approximating rectangles" is called the Riemann sum. The height of each strip depends on both the function and the choice of point in each subinterval.