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grizzled lantern
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yep

upper minnow
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Ok so 24.14 is the answer?

grizzled lantern
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i believe so

upper minnow
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Ok nice

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The fill in the blank words one

grizzled lantern
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you shouldnt count on me to look over the rest of the statements because i haven't done geometry since freshman year

upper minnow
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Oh ok

grizzled lantern
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but they look good

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get confirmation

upper minnow
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Ok I will

zenith garnet
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what type of quadrilateral is this?

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how can i prove its classification?

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im leaning towards kite because i dont think it has any parallel sides but im not 100% sure

silk patio
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It doesnโ€™t seem like anything

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Just a random quad

zenith garnet
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im supposed to classify it to the best of my abilities

sleek depot
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only one diagonal is being bisected

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if both are being bisected then its a rhombus

upper minnow
wintry tundra
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do the binomials refer to the side lengths or the angle measures

silk patio
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The middle one is the average of the two others

spark flint
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I've got this number .707 an angle between two vectors

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Im not sure how to convert it to degrees? google doesn't seem overly helpful or I just dont know how to read what im seeing

silk patio
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Use inverse cos

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Angle between vector (1,1) and vector (1,0) ? Just look at it with your eyes

spark flint
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I know its 90 degrees

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But Im trying to program the formula

silk patio
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Howโ€™d you know that

spark flint
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Wait I mean

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๐Ÿ˜…

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Sorry its hard to explain what im doing

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Even harder when I dont understand so well

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1,0 to 0,1 is 90 degrees right?

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the issue is the number im getting out of my formula is only 60 thonkstein

silk patio
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Itโ€™s not that useful to use formulas you donโ€™t understand

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Whatโ€™s the point

spark flint
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Trying to learn

silk patio
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You donโ€™t learn by using formulas you donโ€™t understand

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What are you confused about exactly

spark flint
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How to use inverse cos

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I got up to

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0.707

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I can read an figure all that out properly

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I think

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Just when you say "inverse cos"

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over my head sorry

silk patio
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0.707 isnโ€™t an angle

spark flint
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FUckkkk me

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Angle between vectors

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?

silk patio
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Yeah, it gives you cosine of the angle

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Why are you using online calculators to cheat yourself to an answer

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When you can literally use your eyeballs to look at what the angle is

spark flint
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Because im trying to program it into a particle simulation

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so I need to get hte forumla right

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I cant tell the computer to

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"just use your eyeballs"

silk patio
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Sounds like bullshit

spark flint
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Thanks tho

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for calling my career bullshit

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apperciated

silk patio
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Career? Howโ€™d you make money from it

spark flint
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I work for a major gaming company

silk patio
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Ask one of your colleagues about trig functions

spark flint
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Cant because this isn't work related

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Thanks for your help tho

silk patio
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Inverse cosine of 0.707

wintry tundra
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lmao what happened here

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why did this get so passive aggressive

upper karma
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I fucking hate you, but thanks for the help, deeply appreciated. But also fuck you cunt.

This convo represented in a sentence

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This convo is quite funny

wintry tundra
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Gonna love it when some innocent 8th or 9th grader comes in here for help and see this

oak citrus
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Too much toxicity.

wide barn
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WOW ok

strong gulch
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i need help

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assignment closes in a few min and i don't know where to start

upper karma
oak citrus
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This isn't geometry, but I will still help you.

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Do you know what growth rate/factor means?

upper karma
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@oak citrus not certian no

oak citrus
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Growth rates are the percentage change in a given time period.

upper karma
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ok

oak citrus
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In this case, the percentage change in this one year is 4.7%

upper karma
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ok

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so that would be stated as the groth rate just 4.7%

oak citrus
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Yep.

upper karma
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ok

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and how about growth factor

oak citrus
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As for growth factor, I forget.

upper karma
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ok

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can you help me with 11

oak citrus
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Yes.

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Did you learn any of the formulas in class?

upper karma
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I think i Did i can go back to check real quick

oak citrus
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Alright, sounds good.

upper karma
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there were 4 formulas i was given

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This is the first 2 of our notes

oak citrus
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Ok.

upper karma
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and the other i cant find but was for present time and future time

oak citrus
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You have been given the principal which was $150 I think + 13% interest rate.

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You know that the 13% is compounded annually

upper karma
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yes

oak citrus
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AKA once every 12 months.

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It's a periodic payment.

upper karma
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okay

oak citrus
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So which formula is going to be used?

upper karma
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so r would be .13

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periodic

oak citrus
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Yes.

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Exactly

upper karma
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and A would be 500?

oak citrus
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Why $500?

upper karma
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oops

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150

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lol

oak citrus
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No, A=total account balance.

upper karma
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ok

oak citrus
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$150 is the Principal.

upper karma
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so thats what we are solving for

oak citrus
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Yes exactly.

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The Principal is the money in the bank that is accruing interest.

upper karma
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ok let me plug this in real quick to the equation and ill try to get back with the answer

oak citrus
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Ok.

upper karma
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what would n be then

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since t is 12

oak citrus
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What is n equal to?

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the times per year

upper karma
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so that would be 12

upper karma
oak citrus
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The number of times that it's compounded is once per year.

upper karma
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so it would be just 1

oak citrus
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Yep.

upper karma
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ok

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would that make T 12 then

oak citrus
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You leave it as t

upper karma
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ok

oak citrus
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You plug stuff into t when you want to solve

upper karma
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k

oak citrus
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if you wanted to find the Account balance after 12 yrs, you plug in t=12

upper karma
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so we leave it or plug in 23

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12

oak citrus
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Leave iy

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it*

upper karma
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k

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so

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we would do .13/1 to the power of 1 first right

oak citrus
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yeah

upper karma
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which would just leave it the same

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then we would add one

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which would make it 1.13/1

oak citrus
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?

upper karma
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no

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ok

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umm

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om confused now

oak citrus
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Think of t=1 as the first day in the bank.

upper karma
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im sorry im slow I do not understand

oak citrus
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I am going to wash my hands give sec

upper karma
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k

oak citrus
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t=1 is the same value.

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The .13 hasn't been compounded yet.

upper karma
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ok

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so how would we start first

oak citrus
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t=2 is basically the first year in the bank.

upper karma
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k

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im sorry so would the eqution look like 150(1+.13/1)^(1)(2)

oak citrus
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$A=150(1+ \frac{.13}{1})^2$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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ohh

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you added both together

oak citrus
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?

upper karma
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the exponent

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you added the ones together is that how you got the 2

oak citrus
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2*1=2

upper karma
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oh

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ok

upper karma
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@oak citrus can you help me one more time

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For 10.b

oak citrus
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Uh.

upper karma
oak citrus
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I don't remember the definition.

upper karma
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I have been stuck on this ever since

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Oh

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Ok

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Sorry for the ping

oak citrus
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It's perfectly alright.

upper karma
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Indentity found this

molten bronze
upper karma
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@molten bronze have you tried anything so far?

molten bronze
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yea, i did whats it called

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alitude method

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i just wanna make sure i did it correctly

upper karma
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Altitude method?

spark star
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Sorry to bother, but

molten bronze
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ya

spark star
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What channel would this go too?

molten bronze
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i think thats geometry

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and those two triangles are congruent as all 3 angles are the same

spark star
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Oh wait

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Congruent Triangle.

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I don't think it works like that.

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It may look the same, but it doesn't mean it is the same.

molten bronze
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oh, then mb

spark star
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It's okay

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I always thought that too.

upper karma
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@spark star that's geometry but this channel is occupied. Please post your question on another unoccupied channel.

spark star
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Okay.

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Thanks.

upper karma
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@molten bronze okay just checked

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Don't know what altitude method is, but 4 is correct.

molten bronze
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how did u get 4 :?

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without using alitude method

upper karma
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Don't know what's the altitude method.

molten bronze
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oh okay, how did u get answer :?

upper karma
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I may know it by another name or i may just won't know it, there are multiples approaches to a problem.

molten bronze
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thats true

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okay i have one more question

upper karma
molten bronze
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i always do silly mistakes.

wintry tundra
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Scoot I helped u with that yesterday

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I guess I didn't explain it too well so I could try again if u want

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I help scoot with math

molten bronze
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thats nice ๐Ÿ™‚

wintry tundra
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I dont think he understood that AAA can't be a congruency proof

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You always have to have at least one side defined to be able to have a congruency proof

tawdry flame
grizzled lantern
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@tawdry flame

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you decide

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id say they look awfully familiar

wintry tundra
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yeah

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they just described the distance formula with words

shadow hemlock
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how would u take 236625 blocks and figure out the lengths of each edge to make a smooth rectangular prism with it

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trying to do this to put 236625 into a visible comparison for some friends

humble pulsar
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then take any 3 combinations of them

shadow hemlock
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uhuh

limpid gust
humble pulsar
limpid gust
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so 3 and 5 arent 60

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and 4 is right?

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62 62 and 56

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??

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or 4 is 62

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am i right?

humble pulsar
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idk you tell me

limpid gust
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I think im right so i will write that down

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just wasnt sure cause i dont know what those lines mean

humble pulsar
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the lines mean they're equal in length

limpid gust
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ohhh

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thank you

limpid gust
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these two actually

wintry tundra
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hmm

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@limpid gust why does the problem say 1 point right beside it

hidden fern
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hey, I need some help. I am pretty sure that this is a simple problem, but I need help

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I need to find all the unknown angles and sides

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And I feel like I am doing it wrong

upper karma
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,rccw

somber coyoteBOT
wintry tundra
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@hidden fern have u learned about the 30 60 90 triangle and its set side lengths?

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Well all triangles have set side lengths but 30 60 90s have easy ones

hidden fern
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@wintry tundra

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I think I figured it out, is this correct?

wintry tundra
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How is just y 12 cm

jagged tangle
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Can someone recommend me a way to remember/get comfortable with double angle and half angle formulas? I'm in calc 1 and have only come across 1 problem needing it so far, but I might as well get it down

wintry tundra
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To classify a side u say both the end points of it @hidden fern

hidden fern
wintry tundra
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Hm

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I'm gonna show u something really cool

hidden fern
wintry tundra
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This is the sides of a 30 60 90 if the small side is a

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(Knowing this automatically will be good for trig btw)

hidden fern
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The teacher has already set the opposite side as 6 cm

wintry tundra
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Yeah the small side is 6

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So u can use this guide for that triangle to show the sides

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But of course if u have to use the basic trig functions then I can help u with that too

hidden fern
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I am confused. Cause the teacher told me to yse SohCahToa and the example he gave was the hyp was 12 cm

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Use*

wintry tundra
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Yeah if XY is 6 then XZ has to be 12

hidden fern
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Ahh

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Ok

wintry tundra
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Bc of 30 60 90 side lengths

hidden fern
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Was my YX correct?

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Cause I feel like it isn't

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Teacher told me to have solutions

wintry tundra
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YX could be anything u have to have 1 side length definite to find sin cos and tan

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sin cos and tan are ratios

hidden fern
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Which is why I am asking if it is correct. I used cos to get it

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I need like a definite yes or no if it correct. So I know i am doing it right

wintry tundra
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So u said hyp = 12 was given already for this triangle?

hidden fern
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He gave the opp and helped woth the adjacent

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Yes

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With*

wintry tundra
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Adjacent to what angle

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30?

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60?

hidden fern
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Yes

wintry tundra
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Oh ok 30

hidden fern
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He said that it should always be that angle when doing SohCahToa

wintry tundra
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I mean u can use any angle

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Except for the right angle

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But if he wants to keep u guys using the small angle then that's fine too

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Just dipping ur toes in the trigonometric waters

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Anyways sin 30 would be 6/XZ

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And from there u can use cos or tan to find the adjacent

hidden fern
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I used cos

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And got 5 cm

wintry tundra
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Hmm

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That's not right

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Show me the picture again so I don't have to scroll continuously

hidden fern
wintry tundra
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,rotate

somber coyoteBOT
hidden fern
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Isn't cos adjacent/hyp

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?

wintry tundra
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Sry my brain is dead uhh cos 30 = x/y

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So its unfindable for now

hidden fern
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Ahh

wintry tundra
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U gotta find x or y another way

hidden fern
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Thats why I got it wrong

wintry tundra
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Yeah no

hidden fern
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I did cos but adjacent/opp

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For some reason

wintry tundra
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cos 30 is technically 6sqrt3/12 but we won't talk about that

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That's something called a cotangent

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Which is one of the 3 other trig functions

hidden fern
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I am pretty sure thats not what my teacher wants

wintry tundra
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Yeah don't use it

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tan^-1 is better than cot in my opinion

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Anyways

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I think u should use the proven side to find either x or y

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So use a function that include opp

hidden fern
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I already have y

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I just used 12Cos30 and got 10.3923

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Is that correct?

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@wintry tundra

wintry tundra
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Hmm

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So sin 30 is 6/y right

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tan 30 is 6/x

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So u gotta divide either sin or tan 30 by 6

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wait oh u found y

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My b

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so cos 30 would be x/12

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So yeah 12cos30

hidden fern
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Yeah, y, or XZ is 12 cm

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Thank you for the clarification :)

wintry tundra
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Yeah np

hidden fern
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It was my mistake doing Cos with Adj/opp

wintry tundra
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Ur gonna LOVE trig if u like this kind of stuff

hidden fern
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I was just confused

wintry tundra
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Yeah don't worry

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Sohcahtoa is something different when u learn it

hidden fern
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@wintry tundra do I round up or round down 10.3923? Or keep it as is

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Or to the 10th decimal

wintry tundra
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Depends on what ur teacher wants

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I'd round to hundredth place

hidden fern
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Ok

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Thank you

wintry tundra
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Welcome

hidden fern
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Ok, the next question has me confused because its a word problem.

wintry tundra
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Ok show it

hidden fern
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Its number 6

wintry tundra
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U should draw a picture

hidden fern
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A right triangle?

wintry tundra
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And show me the picture so I can check it

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Well just draw someone flying a kite at 72 degrees in relation to the ground

hidden fern
wintry tundra
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Also it says the kite string is 200 m

hidden fern
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Did I put the angle in the right place?

wintry tundra
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Yeah

hidden fern
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I notcied I put the angles wrong

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Hold on

wintry tundra
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Realistically the other angle would be 72 but who cares

hidden fern
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@wintry tundra ?

wintry tundra
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Yep

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Go ahead and solve from there

hidden fern
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And I just SohCahToa it

wintry tundra
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Mhm

hidden fern
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Thank you, I'll solve this real quock

wintry tundra
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Nice

hidden fern
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You said that realistically the other angle should be 72 degrees

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Should I move it to A?

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@wintry tundra

wintry tundra
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It doesn't matter

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It's the math that counts not the picture

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One of the worst things u can do in geometry or trig is "they look blank so they are blank"

hidden fern
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But it would be better if I did have A as 72 degrees right?

wintry tundra
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Doesn't change anything at all

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Just more work for u to do

hidden fern
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Ok

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@wintry tundra

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,rotate

somber coyoteBOT
wintry tundra
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thats right @hidden fern

hidden fern
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@wintry tundra quick question

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Should I use a right triangle for these questions?

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I already did number 7 but I just need to double check

wintry tundra
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well do non-right triangles have hypotenuses?

hidden fern
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And no I believe non triangles don't have hypotenuses

wintry tundra
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other triangles cant use sin cos or tan without being split into right triangles @hidden fern

hidden fern
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Ahh

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Ok

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Thank you

limpid gust
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@wintry tundra my hw is just graded like a test, ya know? Please? Yeah you get it.

wintry tundra
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hmm

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i suppose so...

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anyways if u still need help i guess i will

limpid gust
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Nahh I just guess on those

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Worst I can get is wrong

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Guessed*

fickle sleet
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Honestly trig feels like it's more about circles than triangles...

humble pulsar
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well, it's mostly about angles.. circles just encompass any possible angle

alpine cliff
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Circles are sorta dope for trig

wintry tundra
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im having a bit of a hard time graphing $y= \cos(\frac{\pi}{12}x) + 6$

somber coyoteBOT
wintry tundra
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<@&286206848099549185> could u help me?

stone zephyr
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^use desmos to clarify. We know the amplitude is 1 and the period is usually 2(pi)/b and is shifted 6 up. Therefore, the period is 24 and if it is shifted 6 up you have to remember that a cos graph behaves differently from a sin graph, so because its amplitude is one it will start at 7

wintry tundra
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the issue is the graph i use goes from -9 to 9\

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so idk a point that has an integer y

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thats from -9 to 9

stone zephyr
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You can usually plug these values in a calculator for x. Are you doing that in math currently. There are ways to manipilate this equation to find exact values of x

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One sec

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Are you trying to find the values of y where x is -9 and 9?

wintry tundra
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no

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im saying the range given is from -9 to 9

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so i can only plot points at x= -9 to 9 and same for y

bright thistle
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I need help that should be easy like i kinda just starter this

If the area of a polygone unknown is 135 cm2 and one of the side is 5~ and that the apothem is 4.5, how many side does it have? With solving if possible

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<@&286206848099549185>

unkempt oak
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how do Trirectangular tetrahedrons and Orthocentric tetrahedrons differ? is one a subset of the other?

wintry tundra
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<@&286206848099549185> so far I have $4\sin({\frac{\pi}{2}x - 1}) + 1$

somber coyoteBOT
silent plank
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you made a minor error

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$4\sin({\frac{\pi}{2}\red{(}x - 1}\red{)}) + 1$

somber coyoteBOT
wintry tundra
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Oh wait horizontal translations are in parentheses?

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Augh I had no idea

steep temple
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So how am I meant to solve for x if I get 2 solutions for x

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๐Ÿค”

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oh nevermind the question acknowledges there are multiple solutions i just didn't read it properly

silent plank
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you're missing 2 soultions

steep temple
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yeah i know

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but i wanted to ask here first before i apply the periodicity

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because i wasn't sure if i was meant to have 2 solutions in the first place

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i.e. x_1 and x_2

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but yeah the questions does say solutions and i just misread

silent plank
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similar principles for all these types of problems

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doubt there's any issue with quadratics/polynomials etc

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(having multiple solutions/ possible values of x)

steep temple
nocturne vale
wintry tundra
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well u should use some geometry techniques

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if its for school, think about what u learned that day

nocturne vale
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@wintry tundra i did

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and guess what

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nothing like it is on there

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it's a pythagorean theorem problem

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but theres not enough information to solve for x

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x could be many numbers

rugged flint
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it can be solved but not with pythagorean theorem

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but I think it still uses it, just needs something else first

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nvm for x is just one theorem

nocturne vale
rugged flint
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I know what it is but I want you to try to look for whatever they have teached you at school

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what theorems have you seen about triangles

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I'm pretty sure there's a nice visual proof of how the theorem for this kind of exercises works but I forgot it

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they should have showned you the formula for the theorem at least

nocturne vale
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it's not there dude

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i searched my whole book

rugged flint
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a theorem in which a right triangle is split into two from the proyection of the right angle

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like the one in the problem

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euclid theorem

nocturne vale
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never heard of it

rugged flint
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oh

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look it up, it's not that hard to apply

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you just need to use one of the formulas of the theorem

rugged flint
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could you do it?

silk patio
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You can do it with pythag

rugged flint
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oh

hidden dragon
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can someone help me w a geometric proof

oak citrus
hidden dragon
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ty

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ill send u the pic

oak citrus
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Ok.

oak citrus
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Can you take a screenshot?

hidden dragon
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thats how the ss turned out

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its ok if u cant help i get it, its hard to read

oak citrus
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It's pretty hard for me to read.

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Is there any way to send the site or something?

hidden dragon
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ugh no there isnt

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its ok, im trying to help my friend w her math hw but i took geometry a year ago so i dont remember everything

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the website is multiple choice so it wont plug in the answer ik to be right, but im sure its right?

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anyways thanks for trying i appreiciate

oak citrus
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Sorry I couldnโ€™t help.

hidden dragon
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nono its ok!!!

umbral fossil
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In the Alternate Cosine Formula: Cos A = (b^2 + c^2 - a^) / 2bc

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Is the one opposite to the given angle a

silk patio
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What are you asking exactly?

red isle
silk patio
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What have you tried

umbral fossil
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ill post a pic

silk patio
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Yep

nocturne vale
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@rugged flint @silk patio ok so i had another teacher explain it

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and it was real easy

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my teacher didnt even interpret anything she just showed her way of doing it

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which provided nearly no proper explanation

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omfg

cedar ginkgo
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Im so lost

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cause the answers I get are not a decimal or some integer

rugged flint
nocturne vale
rugged flint
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oh

nocturne vale
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she just used her pencil and traced the triangles to figure out stuff

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which doesnt make any sense

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she ignored all of the explanations in the text and said she doesnt like words

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she just likes numbers

rugged flint
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mmmmm

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what was the result

nocturne vale
#

what do you think was the result

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nobody knew wtf was going on

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the teacher didnt even explain what a "geometric mean" was

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she was just like "ugh too wordy"

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then the homework she gave us

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not even made by her

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featured tons of work that she didnt even explain

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thank goodness she uploaded a video of the other teacher with her lesson or i surely wouldve failed the homework

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i've never seen a math teacher like this one

rugged flint
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well just in case one side of the hypotenuse times the other side equals the height squared

nocturne vale
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yes i know

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i watched the video and it told me about it

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thanks anyways

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@rugged flint i passively asked her to upload every video from now on of the other teacher

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just to "clarify things"

rugged flint
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hehe

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it's ok

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to look out for other sources

nocturne vale
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hopefully she says yes

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cuz

rugged flint
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you'll probably will have to do it many times

nocturne vale
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that's the teacher i was looking for

rugged flint
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like actively looking info for yourself

nocturne vale
#

imagine encouraging kids not to read the explanations

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lol

rugged flint
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kinda counterintuitive

nocturne vale
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i have no idea what in her mind told her it was a good idea to do that

rugged flint
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but did you actually see euclid's theorem in class?

nocturne vale
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just ignore the instructions and jump straight into it

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No

rugged flint
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oh

nocturne vale
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She didnt even mention it bro

rugged flint
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and that's how it was done right?

nocturne vale
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didnt even have a single idea of what was infront of me

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Yes

rugged flint
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well

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the more you know

nocturne vale
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imagine the other kids

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blindly following the teacher

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and then they see the homework

rugged flint
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that's why you shouldn't just stay with whatever you see

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question it

nocturne vale
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she has no answers

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LMAO

rugged flint
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and look for complementing your knowledge elsewhere

nocturne vale
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"It just is"

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Cant wait till i get to college bro

rugged flint
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it has happened to me many times that just seeing a video or something about a subject that it finally "clicks" on me

nocturne vale
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works gonna be harder, but hopefully the explanations will be much clearer

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which is exactly what I need

rugged flint
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mmm

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depends on the teacher

nocturne vale
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Dude im talking about uni

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lol

rugged flint
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but it tends to be that way

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yes

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I'm at uni rn

nocturne vale
#

yeah the people who teach you

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know what they're talking about

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they have to

rugged flint
#

and some teachers are like

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they know what they have to teach about but they're not teachers

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just studied something of which they're teaching about

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it tends to happen

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they know about it but don't have that good of a teaching skill

nocturne vale
#

well the purpose is to feed the information to you

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in uni the goal is to have you be fully independent

rugged flint
#

some read powerpoints while others literally proof from scratch

nocturne vale
#

yeah proving from scratch

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my type of teacher

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cant wait till i get to uni bro

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i just want to escape this fuckin system

rugged flint
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wish you luck

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it ain't easy

nocturne vale
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never has been g

rugged flint
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but you're on good tracks with the mentality

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and knowing you need to look for things

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because most of it isn't served on a plate

nocturne vale
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yeah

rugged flint
#

welp, gotta go

nocturne vale
#

wait

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one more thing

rugged flint
#

what

nocturne vale
#

the uni im going to has a 62% acceptance rate

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that's pretty good right?

rugged flint
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eh, idk how that works but it seems fine

nocturne vale
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it's an aeronautical uni

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oh ok

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cya

rugged flint
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in my country it doesn't work that way I think

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nah but you look like you can

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or at least seem like with the interest

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of looking more into it

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that's important

nocturne vale
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i just wanna be involved with aeronautics bro

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been a childhood dream

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i cant help but marvel at airplanes

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like holy shit

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look at it

rugged flint
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you can't just learn a^2+b^2=c^2 from memory and leave it there

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as an example

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well good luck on that

nocturne vale
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thanks

rugged flint
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pursue it

nocturne vale
#

im gonna need it

rugged flint
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if you want it go for it and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

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it's your choice

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ok gtg

nocturne vale
#

nobody can lol

rugged flint
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yep

nocturne vale
#

yeah cya

rugged flint
#

gn

alpine cliff
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or draw a unit circle

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and plot an angle that roughly gives 0.1 for cos

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then add pi radians to it and draw the next angle

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make a conclusion from that

upper karma
#

Anyone know how to solve this

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<@&286206848099549185>

alpine cliff
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whats the root of the denominator

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like the zero^

upper karma
#

Pardon

silk patio
#

This isnโ€™t geometry

upper karma
#

Its trig

silk patio
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No itโ€™s not

upper karma
#

Dude then its what??

silk patio
#

What do you think trig is?

upper karma
#

Euler , what is it then?

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Its algebra 2, therefore its trig

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Anyways

silk patio
#

Not all algebra is trig

upper karma
#

Omg

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Well is algebra 2 trig or not?

silk patio
#

No

upper karma
#

Then where should I chat?

silk patio
#

Algebra

upper karma
#

What type

silk patio
#

pre-algebra

upper karma
#

There's no algebra in general.

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How is this pre-alg

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But alright then

silk patio
#

Itโ€™s prealgebra-algebra

upper karma
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Dude u just changed it

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XDD

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Bruh

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Very funny

silk patio
#

Iโ€™m not an admin

upper karma
#

Well someone did

silk patio
#

Paranoid

naive thicket
#

nah itโ€™s always been Prealg-algebra

upper karma
#

Yeah right

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Alright

naive thicket
#

it would be goofy for the most dedicated mathematics disc to not have a general algebra channel lol

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Can anybody explain to me how to do this? Iโ€™m lost and canโ€™t find any similar examples online (i missed the lesson covering this at school due to some covid issues)

silk patio
#

Itโ€™s the one where the angle at the centre is twice the angle at the edge

naive thicket
#

yes yes because the angle is sitting on the circle but i do not know the actual process for solving for x in this situation

silk patio
#

You get an equation using the angle at the centre is twice angle at edge and then you solve for x

naive thicket
#

i donโ€™t quite get what you mean by angle at the center? I thought an angle sitting on the edge was half of the arc length or so

wintry tundra
#

Circumference formula derives from radians to degrees conversion right

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Or is related to I should say

onyx cloud
#

whenever you're dealing with distance and angles, you want to use radians

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so the circumference formula uses radians

upper karma
#

@graceful totem

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@dark sparrow

dark sparrow
#

did you really see the giant [AWAY] next to my name & then ping me anyway?

upper karma
#

can you tell me if it's sss

dark sparrow
#

i don't know what the problem asks you to do, so no.

upper karma
#

it

dark sparrow
#

but also, you need to realize you're just not supposed to ping specific people for help.
if nobody arrives within 15 minutes, you can tag the helpers role.

upper karma
#

hold on i'll send you screen shot

dark sparrow
#

man

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nice dodge

upper karma
frank osprey
#

I joined to ask a question, but found gold happening right before my eyes instead.

upper karma
#

what?

frank osprey
#

lmao

upper karma
#

what would be the answer i think it is sss

dark sparrow
#

moo, can you tell me what "HL" is supposed to stand for?

upper karma
#

am i right

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it's fine i got it thanks for the help

dark sparrow
#

blurgh

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don't thank me when i've provided no help at all.

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bye.

frank osprey
#

Where's the early university geometry channel?

dark sparrow
#

you can go here or in a questions channel

neon hamlet
oak citrus
#

Yeah, I think so.

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These are similar triangles.

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The side lengths aren't the same, but the angles are.

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@neon hamlet

neon hamlet
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alright thanks

oak citrus
#

No problem.

hidden fern
#

Hello guys, I need a little help

patent plume
#

Draw a diagram and send here pls

hidden fern
#

Yeah, this is what I got so far

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And I am stuck

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,rotate

somber coyoteBOT
patent plume
#

do you have a calculator?

hidden fern
#

yes

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I punched in the numbers

patent plume
#

Oh crap

hidden fern
#

and something seems wrong

patent plume
#

yeah you will negative won't you?

hidden fern
#

yeah

patent plume
#

mm

hidden fern
#

and I am pretty sure that that side is supposed to be the longest side

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I believe

patent plume
#

I mean

hidden fern
#

The way my teacher teaches is confusing

patent plume
#

Idt you can use cos this way ngl

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this isn't a right triangle after all

hidden fern
#

yeah

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I made a mistake

patent plume
#

So like, the formula here, iirc is c^2 = a^2 +b^2 - 2abcos(theta) where theta is the angle between a and b

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c = x here btw

hidden fern
#

yes

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I should be using the pythagorean theorem

patent plume
#

So like x^2 = 900^2 + 1100^2 -2(900*1100) * cos(160)

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Ah

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Hm

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This became exponentially harder

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pun not intended

hidden fern
#

which is why I am very much confused

#

been stuck on this question for like an hour

patent plume
#

yeah this is not a great problem to use pythag. I mean, there's a solution, but it's a 7 lines - page long depending on how many steps you skip

#

My advice would be to drop a perpendicular from the 160 angle @hidden fern

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And then just spam pythagorean theorem until you get a definite answer lol

#

Just ping me when you get stuck

hidden fern
#

ok

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I will try that

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thank you

hidden fern
#

@patent plume should I be using Tan to find the perpendicular angle?

patent plume
#

dw about angles

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Just worry about the sides

hidden fern
#

I only need one side to be found

#

my head hella hurting from this XD

devout cove
#

I got 8.999 and got it wrong

patent plume
#

You did tan(40) = 14/x correct?

patent plume
devout cove
#

yes

finite comet
patent plume
#

uh can you use one of the question channels pls?

patent plume
patent plume
hidden fern
#

the angle?

obtuse tapir
#

@finite comet UW=UV

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and angle v is perpendicular

patent plume
#

@obtuse tapir pls move to q9 thx

patent plume
# hidden fern the angle?

Oh I should have been specific sorry bout that. Basically, draw a line from the starting point to the line you have marked as AB such that it forms a 90 degree angle with AB

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Somethign like htis

hidden fern
#

Idk if that would work with my teacher

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cause I have never seen that before

devout cove
#

i dont understand

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do i se cos

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use

obtuse tapir
#

Do you know what angle of elevation is?

devout cove
#

no

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what does it mean by find the altitude

patent plume
#

wdym?

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@hidden fern it's just a line dropped down from the first point. There's literally no other way to solve using pythagoras

hidden fern
#

the bottom left corner is 44 degrees

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@devout cove

devout cove
#

yeah i

hidden fern
#

thats the angle of elevation

devout cove
#

know that

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so the equation is sin(44) times 22

obtuse tapir
#

Wait what

hidden fern
#

what

devout cove
#

im lost

obtuse tapir
#

use tan

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tan(44)

devout cove
#

ok

obtuse tapir
#

tan(44)=x/22

hidden fern
#

I need like a second opinion on how to solve my problem. Horny can you help me?

obtuse tapir
#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

devout cove
#

so it is 21.2

hidden fern
hidden fern
#

@obtuse tapir

obtuse tapir
#

yes

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send the question

hidden fern
#

I did

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click to see attachments

obtuse tapir
#

I cant see them

hidden fern
#

I used Cosine when it shouldnt be

#

hold on, I will resend

finite comet
hidden fern
#

I used cosine when cosine shouldn't be used, so ignore that

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I need to find x and I have been stuck for almost 2 hours

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@obtuse tapir

obtuse tapir
#

trying to do it

patent plume
#

@obtuse tapir you aren't allowed to use cosine rule, and must use pythagoras, and are not allowed to construct extra lines

obtuse tapir
#

wait what

hidden fern
#

I don't even know if only pythagoras can be used

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cause the last assignment had a similar question and Cosine worked fine

patent plume
#

Yes, but I'm assuming that triangle was a right triangle

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This triangle is not

hidden fern
#

it wasn't

patent plume
#

??

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Then I'm very very very confused

hidden fern
#

Idk, my teacher is confusing

patent plume
#

can you please send me the other one?

hidden fern
#

its with my teacher

obtuse tapir
#

dunno man

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Youโ€™ll have to use cosine rule

hidden fern
#

But when I used cosine

patent plume
#

Or you'll have to drop a perpendicular

hidden fern
#

it was -

patent plume
#

Again, you can't use cosine in that sense lol

hidden fern
#

my teacher has never taught dropping a perpendicular

patent plume
#

That rule for cosine only works for 90 degree triangles

hidden fern
#

so I will assume that is not allowed

patent plume
#

The rule for cosine for a non right triangle is posted above

obtuse tapir
#

Math is math @hidden fern

patent plume
#

And how you solved it?

hidden fern
#

Its all with my teacher. We don't keep our assignments

patent plume
#

bruh wtf is this

hidden fern
#

I know

hidden fern
patent plume
#

RIP

#

The saddest statement to hear from any teacher

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"I didn't teach it this way"

oak citrus
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

deep iron
#

how do you calculate the slope of a line in 3D?

patent plume
#

good question

upper karma
#

there is no such thing as "slope"

oak citrus
#

There is only:

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$\frac{\Delta{y}}{\Delta{x}}$

somber coyoteBOT
hidden fern
#

@patent plume

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I solved it

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Used law of cosines

#

4 hours of being an idiot XD

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felt stupid af after solving

wintry tundra
#

A trig word problem is giving me trouble...

#

I know the midline is 10.5

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And I think the Amp is -7.5

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And idk what the period or the horiz translation is

scenic gust
#

the triangle ABC is isosceles

#

and we gotta prove that the angle C1 is the angle A/2

odd ravine
west basin
#

Is this for a test?

odd ravine
#

homework

west basin
#

alright

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What have you tried so far for 3?

odd ravine
#

tried 2x-10=16

west basin
#

alright i see where you got that but actually it turns out 16 is the length of the ENTIRE side not the portion you are trying to find

#

It should be (2x-10) = 16 - 10

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because you are looking strictly for the portion 2x-10

scenic gust
#

still got some time left @west basin ?

zenith garnet
#

how can i prove what type of shape this is

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*quadrilateral this is

oak citrus
#

There are 4 right angles

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Do we know if all the side lengths are equal?

wintry tundra
#

its at least a trapezoid

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i think

stuck dragon
#

welll

native mirage
#

Any help please

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S is forcus

patent plume
#

@hidden fern Rip I told you law of cosines at the beginning........

native mirage
#

<@&286206848099549185>

visual haven
#

anyone taking psat today

wintry tundra
#

SPQR

upper karma
split stump
left nebula
#

Who understand lesson 3.1-3.4 in honors geometry

split stump
#

just wondering if any of these are wrong, no this isnt a test, my teacher grades hw on accuracy

oak citrus
sinful tide
upper karma
silent plank
#

apply bisection theorems and pythagoras

hidden fern
#

I got it confused with regular cosine

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sorry

upper karma
#

Can you help me ?

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With some entry level trig

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<@&286206848099549185>

twin prawn
#

Did you just put an equality sign under the root

upper karma
#

I did not mean to-

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I fixed it

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lol

onyx cloud
#

now isolate the x

upper karma
#

So divide 18 by the square root of 2

onyx cloud
#

yep

upper karma
#

but then you have a fraction wherre the dinomonator is a square root

#

that does not work

onyx cloud
#

then rationalize

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do you know how?

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$x=\frac{18}{\sqrt{2}} = \frac{18}{\sqrt{2}}\cdot\frac{\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}} = \frac{18\sqrt{2}}{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
onyx cloud
#

$x=9\sqrt{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
#

What the fk

#

I got the rationalize bit

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My dumb brain thought

onyx cloud
#

be nice to ur brain

upper karma
#

$x=/frac{18/sqrt{2}{/sqrt{2}$

onyx cloud
#

$ at the end

upper karma
#

How do you make it work ?

onyx cloud
#

and you're missing a } at the end

upper karma
#

$x=/frac{18/sqrt{2}{/sqrt{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
twin prawn
#

backslashes

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\

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not /

onyx cloud
#

$x=\frac{18\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}$

somber coyoteBOT
onyx cloud
#

you can't simply rationalize by multiplying by $\sqrt{2}$ because it makes it a different value

somber coyoteBOT
onyx cloud
#

we can multiply by $\frac{\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}}$ because $\frac{\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{2}} = 1$

somber coyoteBOT
onyx cloud
#

so we can actually do

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$1\cdot x=\frac{18}{\sqrt{2}}\cdot 1$

somber coyoteBOT
onyx cloud
#

so the left stays the same, and the right we can treat as root2/root2

#

does that make sense

upper karma
#

Oh

#

Well , turns out im an idiot.

#

I got this

onyx cloud
#

lack of knowledge doesn't make you an idiot

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you just didn't know

upper karma
#

$x=\frac{18\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt2}$

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This is what I had gotten.

onyx cloud
#

hm not sure how

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
#

I messed up

#

That

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I did that facepalmz

onyx cloud
#

how'd you get to that?

turbid glade