#geometry-and-trigonometry

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silent plank
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for the problem below that you didn't write in the sqrt for the sqrt(61) in the first line

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to identify whether 10,24,26
is a triple you can apply similarity
divide all sides by 2 to get 5,12,13
which is a common triple

hallow crystal
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I added (Square Root Method) so I know there’s methods besides square root

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no parentheses around the (2x)
@silent plank
AHHHH I fucked up, it would = 4x^2 right?

silent plank
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yes

hallow crystal
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2sqrt(6) wasn't squared properly either
@silent plank
The square doesn’t cancel it out?

silent plank
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the 2 would also be squared

hallow crystal
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Ah

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X = square root of 19?

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@silent plank

silent plank
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looks like it

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lowercase x

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which is another issue

hallow crystal
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I did nut know that

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Well, it’s always lowercase in my notes uwu

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for the problem below that you didn't write in the sqrt for the sqrt(61) in the first line
@silent plank
Omg

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I’m glad that’s the only part I messed up on cuz the answer still remains the same

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And about the baseball one it’s kind of a dumb question so ignored it but what would the answer be?

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@silent plank pandaWow

silent plank
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just need to know one of the sides

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since you're told its a square

hallow crystal
silent plank
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yeh, mistake looks fixed

hallow crystal
silent plank
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round answer to the satellite problem

hallow crystal
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Uhh

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I have no idea what the square root of it is and we’re not allowed to use a calculator

silent plank
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factorisation i g

hallow crystal
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Actually this is old hw and he apologized for not noticing how big the numbers were, so I’ll round it yea

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x = 2829?

silent plank
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nearest 10

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so itd be 2830

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looks like there's issues with 37

hallow crystal
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looks like there's issues with 37
@silent plank
I see what I did wrong, but 4 sq root 5 is the b length right?

silent plank
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you should apply pythag twice

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once for the altitude and a second time using that value to get x

hallow crystal
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I see!

silent plank
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couldn't be bothered checking every single one but looks like you got the idea

hallow crystal
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couldn't be bothered checking every single one but looks like you got the idea
@silent plank
Noo I meant just 37 cuz that’s the only one I changed

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Ohh or do u mean u never checked all of em to start with when I first sent it? Cuz that’s understandable

silent plank
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yeh

hallow crystal
silent plank
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determine whether the sum of the squares of the 2 shorter sides is less than, greater than or equal to the square of the longest side

hallow crystal
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Oh I know that, but how does he expect us to do this without a calculator

silent plank
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calculating the squares of these values is pretty simple

quasi dove
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yup

hallow crystal
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WHOOPS

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my dumbass was tryna find 3 sqrt 2 😭

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Aight @silent plank last one for the day could u check these 😄

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Oh actually I didn’t understand number 2 😔

silent plank
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parentheses issue again with Q1

hallow crystal
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Damn it

silent plank
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you didn't expand Q3 properly

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2x*2x is 4x^2

hallow crystal
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Ahh I always mess up on multiplying x

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How do I do number 2?

silent plank
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rearrange to get all terms on one side

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factorise or use alternate method like QF

hallow crystal
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But then it’ll become three terms on side instead of two since there’s no like terms to combine

silent plank
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you'll have a quadratic equation

hallow crystal
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oo I see

silent plank
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as for Q7, you mixed up your identities

hallow crystal
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Acute and Obtuse?

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@silent plank

silent plank
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yeh,
first one is obtuse
second is acute

hallow crystal
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Are my signs right?

silent plank
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which signs

hallow crystal
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Greater than less than

silent plank
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yes

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the conclusion was wrong

hallow crystal
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I thought less than meant acute because smaller angle?

silent plank
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look up some visualisations online

hallow crystal
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Understood

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For number 2 ^

silent plank
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you have the factorisation right there

hallow crystal
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Isn’t it wrong

silent plank
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(x-1)(x-1) = 0

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and the only solution to that is x=1

hallow crystal
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-1 and -1 don’t = 1 😔

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I need to find two factors of 1 that equal -2

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OH WAIT

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Ahhhhh

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x = 1 alright

iron shadow
quasi dove
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about the first question, you have to express y as 5-3x and put it into the first equation

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about the second one, what about using graphs?

whole carbon
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<@&286206848099549185> Can someone help me with Quantitative reasoning

dark sparrow
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@whole carbon you should first post your problem and only then ping helpers if 15 minutes went by with nobody responding

whole carbon
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Oh @dark sparrow

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remember me

dark sparrow
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please tell me you're not coming back with the same problem sheet as last time

whole carbon
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LOL

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no its kinda same but new one

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I need help with green only

dark sparrow
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this formatting is making me cry

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i am not willing to do this

whole carbon
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I need help badly

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Please ann you helped me a lot last time

upper karma
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quality is low

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Can you zoom in on the column then post screencap again

whole carbon
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This is all I got , not sure if correct

upper karma
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Do you understand boolean algebra well

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This is pretty easy

whole carbon
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nope

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Idk what boolean is

upper karma
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Mathematical logic

whole carbon
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is the middle part correct?

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Its just T or F

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I gotta fill em out for each row

upper karma
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The middle column is correct

whole carbon
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would left go

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F

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F

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F

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T

upper karma
whole carbon
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Oh ok

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Not sure where it went tbh

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Is the left correct?

upper karma
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What is your answer?

whole carbon
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F

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F

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F

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T

upper karma
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Yes

whole carbon
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Ok

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Idk about the last one

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Is it T F T T @upper karma

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?

upper karma
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The answer to the third column? Or the truth table for 'implies'?

whole carbon
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3rd

upper karma
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That would be wrong

whole carbon
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What is it then

upper karma
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T
T
T
T

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So it is a tautology

whole carbon
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Its all T?

upper karma
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Yes

coral dagger
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How do I solve for the horizontal shift?

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Can I assume

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that y=0 then solve for c?

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Or is there an alternative way to do it

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Wait thats to find a sine function to find a cosine, can I assume the highest point on a graph which is 7:12 or 7.2

dark sparrow
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what do you mean by swap

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i don't know what you're talking about.

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is there a problem you're doing? this could clear up what you're trying to do.

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this does not help

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what do you mean by "some calculus"? why are you refusing to post the full problem so i can figure out exactly what you're trying to do and how to do it?

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oh boy, sideways

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so you want to find x in quadrant 2 such that cot(x) + 2 = -tan(x)?

coral dagger
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Is my V Window too big if I’m seeing a simple straight line?

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I’ve double checked my trig functions

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And they are all in radians

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h(t)=2cos(pi/372(t+7.2)+9

dark sparrow
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what's the Y range of your viewing window

coral dagger
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what's the Y range of your viewing window
@dark sparrow -10 to 10

dark sparrow
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yeah too big

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the range of your function is [9,11] so a window which doesnt go too far beyond that would be better

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say, [5, 15]?

coral dagger
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ok lemme try

dark sparrow
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hold up

coral dagger
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it’s somehow still a straight line

dark sparrow
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oh lmfao

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your x window is too short

silent plank
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period is mega huge

dark sparrow
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try making it like 0 to 600 or something

coral dagger
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ok

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Ohhh

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Ok

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Thanks!

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I made it

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0-2000 (that pic isnt a represensative of 0-2000)

silent plank
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might be limitations of the calc

upper karma
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If I rotate a line around its normal line, in a 3d space, do I get a plane?

paper vale
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Yea

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But u can’t say “it’s normal” as there are >1 lines (♾️) which are normal to it

upper karma
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But if I was given 2 of them which are normal that is a plane right

paper vale
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Yea

upper karma
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Great thanks

supple onyx
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So I came acroos a geometry question where the basic setup is that you have 2 skew lines, both given in vector form, and a point M. You need to find a line that intersects the 2 lines and passes through point M. I struggled to find a simple method (I mean really simple, the method I used is still not particularly hard but I ended up with a peculiar system of equations where my calculator just couldnt figure it out if I didnt first solve for one of the variables and then plug back in so that it was a system of only 2 variables). Is there a simple method for these types of questions, or do I have to end up solving a system of 3 non linear equations (again not particularly hard but I wonder).

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Basically my way to solve it was to take a general point on line 1 and line 2, then write the vector equation for the line you want to find as M + t(M-P) where P is vector for a geenral point on line 1. Then equate that with H a general point on line 2 and solve the system of equations for the three parameters (and in the end you only have to care about the solution to one of the parameters)

upper karma
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I need to review my coordinate geo, but here's what I can think of

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Take any general point on the line 1 as $\overline{r_1} = \overline{a_1} + \lambda\overline{b_1}$
And on line 2 as $\overline{r_2} = \overline{a_2} + \lambda\overline{b_2}$
Now, on substracting,
$\overline{r_1} - \overline{r_2} = (\overline{a_1} - \overline{a_2}) + \lambda(\overline{b_1}-\overline{b_2})$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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This would give you a line intersecting through both the given lines,

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And any general point on it would be given by $\overline{r_1} - \overline{r_2}$, which, you can just consider as $\overline{r_3}$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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Equate r_3 with the vector equation for point M and solve to get lambda

zinc dragon
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Is this channel free?

upper karma
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apparently

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The person hasn't responded yet so

mental vessel
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This doesn’t make sense to me, shouldn’t the side that says 189 be the longest side?

high shell
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not at all

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for example, if they traveled in one direction, they could have travelled any number of kilometers and still have 0 distance between them 🙂

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you're probably just confused because the triangle you drew makes it look like 189 is the longest side 😛

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this is a task about the cosine theorem, basically.

mental vessel
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oh okay i think im hanging onto the right angle rules too much lol

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thanks

dark sparrow
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8 or 9?

upper karma
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triangular inequality

dark sparrow
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@zinc dragon the constraint not mentioned explicitly is c < a+b

zinc dragon
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So you're claiming that the question is incomplete?

dark sparrow
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no, it's not incomplete

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the constraint is just the strict triangle inequality

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i'm guessing you're looking for some strategy other than brute-force counting

upper karma
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it follows that ||c < 10||

zinc dragon
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So c<10?

upper karma
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correct

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that's what I said in the spoiler thingy

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ok this sounds bad

zinc dragon
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But for a, b: are there any specific constraints that fix a type of values for them?

upper karma
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a<=b<=c

zinc dragon
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Ohh yeah, ig i see what you're talking about hobo

upper karma
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you could even brute force this

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c = 9: a = ....

zinc dragon
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Yepp💯

mental vessel
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I know I did something wrong

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sorry, go first sidharth

upper karma
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I think he's done (?)

mental vessel
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Yeah I thought so I waited a couple minutes to make sure lol

zinc dragon
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I just have one doubt. So (a, b, c) cannot be (9, 1, 10) because c<a+b so if i choose (8, 1, 10), there aren't any other constraints holding the formation of a triangle, are there?

upper karma
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remember a + b + c = 20

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you got 19 there

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there are actually very few triangles

zinc dragon
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Okay got it.

upper karma
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how many?

zinc dragon
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I haven't calculated yet. Wait.

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8

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@mental vessel i am sorry for holding you. This channel is all yours

mental vessel
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no its okay

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thank you

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dont mind my triangle cause its a little weird compared to the question

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but i know the angle cant be 50.6 degrees its over 100, what did i do wrong?

upper karma
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Why do you think it's over 100°

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@mental vessel

zinc dragon
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244 is the largest side and the angle opposite to should be the largest(unlike your diagram)

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I see no mistake in your solution.

mental vessel
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ohh

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so the angle should be up here

upper karma
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No

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Redraw the diagram

mental vessel
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in the question it says the two airplanes are 189km away from eachother, which is what i have

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one airplane goes 168km and the other goes 244km

silent plank
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244 is the largest side and the angle opposite to should be the largest(unlike your diagram)

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i.e. your diagram isn't scaled properly

upper karma
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Your solution is correct, it is 50.6° but diagram is incorrect

mental vessel
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So like that then

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then it asks the angle between the two flight paths, which would be opposite to 189 right

upper karma
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Yes

mental vessel
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okay cool

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thanks

upper karma
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how would i find a quadratic function when given the x intercept of x= -5/8 ? yes its only one x-int

dark sparrow
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is it known that that's the only x-intercept?

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or is there another one at an unknown location

upper karma
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yes

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exactly one x intercept

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which im pretty sure means its a perfect square

dark sparrow
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and you're absolutely right.

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the equation will take the form $y = a(x + \tfrac{5}{8})^2$, where $a$ is either arbitrary or to be determined by other info

somber coyoteBOT
iron shadow
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Can someone explain to me this proof
[18:42]

hallow crystal
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After someone’s answered the person above me’s question, could someone check my work and tell me if this is right?

pliant osprey
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@hallow crystal didn't check the entirety (looks okay though) but yes, khun

iron shadow
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<@&286206848099549185>

fresh pike
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what would question 2 look like compared to quesiton 1? I'm not sure how to differentiate a-b from a+b or how to show it with a compass and a line

silent plank
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what did you do for Q1

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place your arc in the other direction

fresh pike
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on b?

silent plank
fresh pike
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ohhhh i see

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does c go in the other direction too?

silent plank
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yes because subtraction

fresh pike
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i get it now

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thx

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does the dot go on the arc on (a-b)?

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can you show me what a+2b-c would look like?

silent plank
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if you understand 1 and 2, combine the two ideas

iron shadow
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@silent plank could you answer my question?@pliant osprey

silent plank
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which part of the proof don't you undertand?

iron shadow
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the explanation

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the part that says these are equal

pliant osprey
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you've counted the area of the big square in two ways

silent plank
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the line before that says
we're going to write the area of the larger square in two different ways

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  1. is one way (using the sides of the large square)
  2. is the other way (using the smaller square and the 4 triangles)
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those both represent the area of the larger square

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and would have the same value

iron shadow
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how come they are using the ways to equate then simplify to get the theoreom?

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2 ways

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i know they mean same thing

silent plank
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because that's the approach they're using

vernal dawn
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Given the directed line segment PR below, find the coordinates of q on pr such that the ratio of pq to qr is 2:1. P being -2,5 and R being 1,-7

silent plank
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to prove pythagoras,

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that a^2 + b^2 = c^2

vernal dawn
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whats that

silent plank
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to get a relation between the variables a,b and c

iron shadow
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ok but using area to find an equation that only gives you answers to missing sides doesnt make sense

silent plank
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wdym

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why wouldn't it make sense

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i mean its all outlined

iron shadow
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areas of all squares triangles in both ways are used then equated to simplify but the simplified equation is pythagoras thereom however, the theorem when used gives answers to mising sides

silent plank
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but what's the issue with that exactly?

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and why is that an issue

iron shadow
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how does maths go from areas to sides?

silent plank
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its not only about area

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its about the relationship of your variables

hallow crystal
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@hallow crystal didn't check the entirety (looks okay though) but yes, khun
@pliant osprey
smugshrug

silent plank
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  1. gives you information about a and b (in relation to Area)
  2. gives you more information about a and b as well as c (in relation to Area)
    and together you get a relation between those 3 variables
vernal dawn
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Given the directed line segment PR below, find the coordinates of q on pr such that the ratio of pq to qr is 2:1. P being -2,5 and R being 1,-7

hallow crystal
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Jinnnnnnnnnnnn

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Can I squish 🥺🥺🤲🏼🤲🏼

silent plank
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i mean you agree with all the math right...

hallow crystal
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I’m sorry I love everyone’s pfps-

silent plank
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a^2 + b^2 = c^2
is the logical conclusion to everything set up before that

iron shadow
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ahhh is a matter of cancelling the 2ab giving you equation to find all sides only

hallow crystal
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Is there a symbol for midpoint? Do I rlly gotta write it all out

iron shadow
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@silent plank

silent plank
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well yeh...

iron shadow
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how do i ask questions and get a reply quicker btw@silent plank

silent plank
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be explicitly clear upfront about which parts you need help with

hallow crystal
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LOL professional tutoring ❤️

iron shadow
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ok, just asking im quite new to server 🙂

silent plank
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M for midpoint

vernal dawn
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@silent plank can you help me

silent plank
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subscripts to indicate which segment

hallow crystal
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M for midpoint
@silent plank
OHHH I was wondering why the formula has Xm and Ym instead of X1 and Y1

silent plank
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should be capital M

hallow crystal
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XM and YM?

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Ohh

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So I would write the answer as


HX M

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Ahh wait no

silent plank
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Given the directed line segment PR below, find the coordinates of q on pr such that the ratio of pq to qr is 2:1. P being -2,5 and R being 1,-7
parentheses around points, math is also case sensitive, keep labelling consistent
have you drawn a diagram?

vernal dawn
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P is (-2,5) and R is (1,-7)

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i have to find q on the line pr

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The ratio of pq to qr is 2:1

silent plank
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the change in the x and y coordinates will also be in the same ratio

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Q on the line PR,
RQ to QR

modern sorrel
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How do you factor a five term polynomial

high shell
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well, you can guess 3 roots and get left with a quadratic

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Why do you need to, though?

modern sorrel
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my teacher doesnt really like us so hes torturing us with 5 term polynomials

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i'm just tryna study for the test tmrw that this will most likely be on

silent plank
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rat root theorem

high shell
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oh, yeah, I remember that

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don't think I ever used that except for the test that was for 😅

modern sorrel
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thank you boys

hallow crystal
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Why do u have to subtract point A’s coordinates from the midpoint’s coordinates in order to find point B’s coordinates?

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I know you need to subtract because the original midpoint formula is adding, but shouldn’t it be vice versa?

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Shouldn’t you subtract the midpoint from Point A instead

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In order to find Point B

hallow crystal
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<@&286206848099549185> :

upper karma
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Wut?

quasi dove
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A(a) B(b) M($\frac{a+b}{2}$),
$b = \frac{a+b}{2}*2-a$

somber coyoteBOT
onyx tapir
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Hello I need help with 2- d)

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Here's what I've worked on

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<@&286206848099549185>

upper karma
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3 D right

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i dont see your work on 3 D

onyx tapir
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@upper karma

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My apologies, 2D *

upper karma
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sin^2(x) cos^3(x) = cos(x) to be sure

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right ?

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sin(2x) can never be +/- 2 in the real domain

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so only solutions for cosx = 0 count

coral dagger
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I’m unsure if my depiction of it is correct

coral dagger
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How do I find the mininum value

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for question c

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Im trying to find the vertical shift for my cos function

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Vertical shift = Max+Min/2

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Max-Min /2 was equal to = 25.4

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Oh nvm

marble oriole
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Hi!

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I need help with intersection of bounding boxes

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Does someone happen to know how to calculate the intersection of rotated bounding boxes?

meager pendant
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find angle aoc

upper karma
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what have you tried

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hint: ||consider inscribed angle theorem||

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@meager pendant

meager pendant
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im trying to figure out what the shared arc is

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i think i can use opposite angles of quadrilateral

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if i construct cb

upper karma
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do you know inscribed angle theorem?

meager pendant
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this?

upper karma
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i think i can use opposite angles of quadrilateral
i highly doubt you'll get anywhere with that if you don't use the inscribed angle theorem

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yes

meager pendant
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I got 150

upper karma
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hold up

meager pendant
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using the opposite angles of quad and the inscribed angle theorm

upper karma
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yes 150 is correct

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good job

meager pendant
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nice 😎

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thanks for the help

upper karma
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yw

narrow crag
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is this shit trig or geo

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cuz im taking geo

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and this is scary

meager pendant
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It's circle geometry

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trigonometry is about triangles but i think it falls under geometry ( triangle geometry?)

narrow crag
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oh ok

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im starting geo this year and im kinda worried

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looks hard

meager pendant
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the proofs aren't too hard to learn/ understand

upper karma
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just need to practice and get used to it

meager pendant
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its just sometimes its diffficult to see how they can be applied in the question

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its pretty fun tho

upper karma
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Yeah

meager pendant
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like brain riddle

narrow crag
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r proofs the thing with postulates

meager pendant
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creative thinking or whatever catshrug

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yeah they are

tardy nest
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For 4,1

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Never mind I figured it out

muted hollow
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Hi i have a geometry question
Can someone help please?
Based on this

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I have 10 questions

  1. What numbers are corresponding to 3?
  2. What two numbers are alternate interior to angle 4?
  3. Which two numbers are alternate exterior to 10?
  4. What number is vertical to 14?
  5. Angle 11 is alternate exterior to what number, and alternate interior to what number?
  6. Angle 13 is alternate exterior to what number, and alternate interior to what number?
  7. Angle 5 is alternate exterior to what number, and alternate interior to what number?
  8. Angle 1 is alternate exterior to what 2 numbers?
  9. Angle 8 is alternate exterior to what 2 numbers?
  10. Angle 3 is alternate interior to what 2 numbers?
    I need help with the alternate interior and exterior angle questions
    I did all of them but i still dont get it and dont know if they are right
upper karma
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@muted hollow can i see your answers to them in order to check if they are correct

muted hollow
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Ok hold on

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A little sloppy

upper karma
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On 1 if you think that 7 and 2 are corresponding to 3, what stops you from 6

muted hollow
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You cant do diagonally

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Its only downa nd across

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Down and across*

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That was my teachers answer

upper karma
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Wait what? I'm assuming the 4 lines are parallel right?

muted hollow
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Yes but he said its only downa nd across

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Idk

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Down and across*

upper karma
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Oh wait

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Hold up

muted hollow
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Just its right xd

upper karma
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I may have missread it

muted hollow
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Oh ok

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I mainly need help with the alternate interior and exterior

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I have no idea how to do it on a 2 by 2 grid thing

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I know how to do it on a 2 by 1 though

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Just not a 2 by 2

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2 seems correct

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3 is too correct

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4 as well

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5 as well

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6 as well

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is the 7) a 1 on exterior?

muted hollow
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Yes its a 1

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and the rest is okay

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good job

muted hollow
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Oh really?

upper karma
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yeah i couldn't find any mistake at all

muted hollow
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I still dont understand fully when the number srae interior and exterior on a 2 by 2 like that

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Could you explain?

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wdym by 2 by 2

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Here hold on

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This is a 2 by 1

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This is a 2 by 2

upper karma
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oh okay so where are you confused on 2 by 2

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you did all of them right

muted hollow
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Yeah but like

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Wait give me a minute

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sure

muted hollow
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See look

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Wait

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For exaplme on number 8

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Example*

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OH WAIT

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I think i get it

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Its asking angle 8 is alternate exterior to what 2 numbers

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But 5 is on the interior

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But 8 is the alternate to 5

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And 8 is on the exterior

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I think i get it

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what i usually do when alternate exterior or interior angles is to like forget the other line we are not gonna use, and focus on the 2 by 1

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and then change lines

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to get the other one

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that might be useful

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Yeah i get what you mean but like

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I feel like the exterior and interior changes when it gets to a 2 by 2

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But it r3eally doesnt

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Its confusing

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Really*

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practice and practice and the more problems you do the less it'll appear confusing

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especially in maths

muted hollow
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Yeah but i am just nervous that the teacher will mark them wrong as a homework assignment

upper karma
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the more situations you've come upon before the exam, the more experience you'll have when dealing with the test

muted hollow
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Thats why i have to make sure they are all right

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Yeah exactly

upper karma
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Yeah but i am just nervous that the teacher will mark them wrong as a homework assignment
they are all correct lol

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believe in yourself

muted hollow
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Wait what grade are you in?

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College?

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Or?

upper karma
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is that really necessary to ask?

muted hollow
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Im just curious...

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Thats all

upper karma
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last year before uni

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idk about the grade or whatever

muted hollow
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Im only 14 turning 15 on october 13th

upper karma
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nice!

muted hollow
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What about you? Or are you comfortable telling?

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Prob around 18?

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Or higher?

upper karma
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around 18 is a good guess

muted hollow
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Ah ok

upper karma
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hey uh

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does anyone know the answer to this

muted hollow
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Well nice talking to you thanks a lot~

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upper karma
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same, yw!

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@upper karma is that an online test

bitter jetty
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for triangle abc prove that (a+-b)/c = sina =- sinb/sinc

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how do i prove that

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ive been at it for like an hr with nothing

mental vessel
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I got a=5.7cm
im not sure how to get the other lengths for the triangle BCD tho

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Hi so I’m in geometry and me and my friend got different answers on a problem, with his being right. Can anyone explain where I went wrong/why it’s wrong?

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Because they got E being 60 degrees with x being 4 and y being 10

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,w 10x+3y +4y -7x +8= 90, 5x+4y = 3(4y-7x+8)

eager hatch
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?

silent plank
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mistake the start

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your very first equation at top left

eager hatch
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Oh wait it’s 7y right?

silent plank
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yes

eager hatch
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Lol dumb mistake thanks for the help

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And that’s it right?

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@silent plank it’s just that right? From there is it all correct

silent plank
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what?

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if the mistake is at the very first line

eager hatch
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Like if I change that and proceed with said changes it’s correct right

silent plank
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it pretty much renders everything after irrelevant

eager hatch
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Like adjust based on first equation changes

silent plank
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redo the whole thing

eager hatch
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Ok but like for the systems that’s right?

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Like original 2 equations

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Sorry I’m kinda tired today

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So I sound really dumb lol

silent plank
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the other eqn looks ok

eager hatch
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I’m sorry I sound so dumb

vernal dawn
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guys

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can someone help me with something really easy

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i dont know how to do it though

upper karma
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!r1

silent plank
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we won't be able to either

upper karma
bitter jetty
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for triangle abc prove that (a+-b)/c = sina =- sinb/sinc
how do i prove that
ive been at it for like an hr with nothing

strange beacon
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Hey, can anyone give me any tips with the following problem: You have a DIN A4 sheet of paper from which you want to make the largest possible sugar sachet. Make a suggestion on how to make such a sugar cube - also give the dimensions of the sugar cube

upper karma
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Would this just be 24/(sqrt3/2)

silent plank
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(a+-b)/c = sina =- sinb/sinc
something looks off about that.

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no, where are you getting sqrt3/2

upper karma
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That side of the is sqrt3/2 and the hypotenuse is 1

silent plank
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that doesn't tell me how you're getting that specific value though

upper karma
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Ok so sin58=x/24

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Wait no no

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24/x

silent plank
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°, but that would be ok

upper karma
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But how would I isolate the variable

silent plank
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algebra

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same operations to both sides etc

upper karma
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So sin58=24/x

silent plank
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where are you suddently getting cos

upper karma
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Oh sorry

silent plank
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note that my main question was specifically where the sqrt(3)/2 is coming from

upper karma
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In a 30/60/90 triangle isn't the leg sqrt3/2

silent plank
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ratio of the leg opp 60° and the hyp would be sqrt(3)/2

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but in what way is this a 30°-60°-90° triangle

upper karma
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Yes thats what I meant

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Oh

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Its not i just realized

twilit steeple
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can someone link me a review page or packet for geometry i need to brush up

upper karma
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I think I need a brain

upper karma
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Ok wouldn't this be 19/sin(63)

silent plank
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nope

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check how you're setting up your trig ratio

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you're saying that the ladder is touch the building at a place higher than the ladder itself

upper karma
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Oh oh

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Its 19sin(63)

bitter jetty
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for triangle abc prove that (a+-b)/c = (sinA +-sinB)/sinC
how do i prove that
ive been at it for like an hr with nothing

silent plank
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@bitter jetty something looks very off about that statement

bitter jetty
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o sry

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@silent plank i fixed it lol

silent plank
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still looks off

bitter jetty
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how

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thats the problem i got

silent plank
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math is case sensitive

bitter jetty
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o ic

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ok

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now is it gud

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for triangle abc prove that (a+-b)/c = (sinA +-sinB)/sinC

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can u help

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@silent plank

silent plank
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start with the sine rule

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$\frac{a}{\sin(A)} = \frac{b}{\sin(B)} = \frac{c}{\sin(C)}$

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bitter jetty
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ye

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ik that

strange beacon
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one question

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Does it mean that the volume of a pyramid for infinity n is infinity=

silent plank
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using that can get you the equations: \
$\frac{a}{c} = \frac{\sin(A)}{\sin(C)} \
\frac{b}{c} = \frac{\sin(B)}{\sin(C)}$

strange beacon
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Because I thought it would become a cone

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bitter jetty
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yes

silent plank
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and then add/subtract them

strange beacon
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how can anything have an infinity volume

bitter jetty
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wdym

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o add them together?

strange beacon
silent plank
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yes

strange beacon
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this for n to infinity

silent plank
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you'd be adding or subtracting the same value to/from each side

strange beacon
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yea but for infinite n the volume of a pyramide is infinity isnt it

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but in this formula I don't get how a changes for more n's

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because a has to become shorter if we add more sides to a pyramid

hallow crystal
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<@&286206848099549185>

bitter jetty
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i got to sinA = sin(180-B+C)

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and that a/c = sinA/sinC

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but im stuck again

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,help

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silent plank
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sinA = sin(180-B+C)
not quite

bitter jetty
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ya

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@silent plank thats y i was trippin

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and i feel thats the issue in my proof

silent plank
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insufficient parentheses

bitter jetty
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@silent plank cud u expand

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on that

silent plank
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what's the relationship between A,B,C in a triangle

bitter jetty
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o its sin(180-(B+C))

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they all add up to 180

silent plank
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yes,better

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and then apply properties of the sine function

bitter jetty
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🤦‍♂️ ur a genius

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@silent plank tysm

modern sorrel
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What is a discontinuity im so confused

jagged relic
vague crypt
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$2y + (4x - 100) = 3y + 30 + (x + 5)$

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zinc dragon
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@modern sorrel

vague crypt
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$-3y - 6x = -420 \qquad 3y + x = 145$

somber coyoteBOT
vague crypt
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$-5x = -275$

somber coyoteBOT
vague crypt
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$5x = 275$

somber coyoteBOT
vague crypt
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$x = 55$

somber coyoteBOT
vague crypt
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$55 + 3y = 145 \implies 3y = 90 \implies y = 30$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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Kinda need help ;-;

vague crypt
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$(5y + 38) = (8x + 26) \qquad 3x + (5y + 38) = 180$

somber coyoteBOT
junior light
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Uh where's $\vec{AR}$?

somber coyoteBOT
junior light
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Could you provide the complete image?

coral dagger
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I’m trying to find the horizontal phase shift and I attempted to do this

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By plugging in my Y as 36 and x as 1

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And I have the other variables and what they mean

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Though I hit a dead road

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Because I got “syntax error” when I try doing

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-1^-sin-1 to get rid of the sin

dark sparrow
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-1^-sin-1
what.

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your calculator is going "what the fuck are you trying to say" at you

coral dagger
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Like I want to remove sin

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but I got that response

dark sparrow
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that would be sin^-1(-1**)** = sin^-1(sin(pi/6 + c))

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you APPLY sin^-1 to both sides

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not raise it to the power of a function

coral dagger
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oh

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When I mean by

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sin^-1 I meant like

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I applied -1 first then sin^-1

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like this

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i thought that’s how we do it lol I guess I was wrong

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ok now I got

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2.094=C as my horizontal shift

onyx tapir
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Hello.

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Is there anything wrong with this intuition: to find the angle a vector makes with a particular axis, find the dot product between the vector without that axes component, with the unit vector in that given axis.

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The reason I'm asking this is since my book gives these formulas above which was not what I was thinking.

upper karma
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$\bar{r} \cdot \bar{i} = \lvert r \rvert \lvert i \rvert cos(\alpha)$

$cos(\alpha) = (x\bar{i}+y\bar{j}+z\bar{k})\cdot\bar{i}/\lvert r \rvert$

So the angle $\alpha = cos^{-1}(\lvert x \rvert)/\lvert r \rvert)$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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Similarly you can find the other angles

jolly bear
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Help with number 6???

left storm
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I need help with some geomotry

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Those 2

upper karma
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@jolly bear make the vector representation of the situation and solve accordingly

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@left storm what have you attempted?

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@left storm for 11, you only need to know the distance formulae, for 12 you just have to solve the linear eqns

coral dagger
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Without solving for C using algebra, is there any ways I can find the horizontal shift

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by simply looking at the graph

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Im just wondering

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by simply observing the sine function's picture

coral dagger
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Wait can anyone here help check my calculations

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something went off

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Because Im supposed to have a horizontal shift of -2.17 according to my graphing calculator

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though when I plugged in a month and temperature (the first month and temperature) to solve for C

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I get -4

upper karma
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hi

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<@&286206848099549185>

paper vale
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it is trivial

upper karma
paper vale
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bruh why did u take a picture of your laptop from your phone

upper karma
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  1. distributive prop, addition prop, substitution prop
  2. addition prop, addition prop, divison prop
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shush gimma a break

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LOL

paper vale
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what are u asking

upper karma
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if my answers were right

paper vale
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isnt that just trivial though

upper karma
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wdym

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its proofs

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and im stuck

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😔✊

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i think im right but idk forsure

shrewd bay
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Can two points be collinear?

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Or does it have to be 3 or more?

remote mortar
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does a unit on a coordinate plane mean 1 box on it or like 1 of the things that the number on the sides represent because like 1 box doesn’t mean one when ur graphing but if the question says 1 unit = 1 inch are they reffering to one box on the plane or not

upper karma
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Can two points be collinear?
@shrewd bay what do you think

mental vessel
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Just checking if I did this correct ?

opal forge
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Can someone ease explain where 1600 is coming from out this equation. I'm considering my options here, I'm doing 9-1 and 9+1 which are equaling 8 and 10. But 8^2 is 64 and 10^ is 100

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What should I be doing differently

upper karma
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They're simplifying 1 - (9/41)^2 right? And you might know 1 - (9/41)^2 = 1 - 9^2/41^2. Turn 1 into something so the expression can be written as a single fraction and you'll have answered your own question :)

opal forge
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@upper karma I think I might be a little slow. So 1 - 9^2/41^2 = 80/1681?

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You have to write all numerators above the common denominator

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I get it now!

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thank you

upper karma
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Err 1 - 9^2/41^2 = 1600/1681 but glad it helped

opal forge
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Lol yeah so it's 1681-81 / 1681 = 1600 / 1681

upper karma
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Great

shrewd bay
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Can two points be collinear?

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The definition I was giving said collinear has to be three or more points.

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But isn’t collinear points on the same line?

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So wouldn’t two points be on the same line?

hollow raven
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Considering there needs to be a set of points on the same line for them to be colinear, yes, your observation would be correct

shrewd bay
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I’m not sure why the definition from my teacher says three points.

flint crypt
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can anyone help me with my hmw

upper karma
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So we just talk here for geo?

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@upper karma yeah, there are other things too like pre calc and pre algerbra

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Yeah I saw that

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oh mb

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It’s alr💀

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so your new here?

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you're*

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Yeah I joined like a little while ago

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that's cool, i joined a few days ago so, im basically new too.

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what grade are you in

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sorry that sounded kinda creepy. im just wondering bc i wanna know what grade ur taking this class in. yk what i
mean

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Lmao yeah

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I’m a freshman.

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oh me too

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i took the algebra regents in 8th. Thats my nyc curriculum though.

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That’s lit. I’m from ny too

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thats crazy

high geode
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anybody know the exact value of sin 16pi/3?

upper karma
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It can be written as sin(5pi + pi/3)

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you get it now ig

high geode
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i found the answer is squar3/2 I just don't know why

upper karma
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It's -√3/2

high geode
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yup that's what i ment

upper karma
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sine is negative in third quadrant

high geode
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right

upper karma
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5pi is just 4pi + pi i.e 2 full rotations then a pi

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Add pi/3 to it , it brings it to third quadrant

high geode
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thanks

onyx tapir
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can someone please explain the reasoning behind why this is the case

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if an angle is in the second quadrant.

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I don't get these relationships at all

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all i know is arcsin(X) + arccos(x) = pi/2

upper karma
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Do you want a proof of why arcsin(x)+arccos(x)=pi/2? @onyx tapir

onyx tapir
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@upper karma Yes please

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Also, the reason why and how you can create a relationship between arccos( - value ) and arcsin (+ value)

upper karma
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okay

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hold up

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@onyx tapir have you learnt differentiation?

onyx tapir
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@upper karma Yes I have.

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apologies for taking some time to reply as i am in a class

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when you can respond, i'll check it out and let you know

upper karma
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okay, i'll maybe go through diffentiation method then

onyx tapir
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@upper karma yes 🙂

upper karma
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I've been fighting the bot to make it work this time

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Gimme some more time

onyx tapir
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Take your time

upper karma
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@onyx tapir done

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You ready?

onyx tapir
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Yes I am

upper karma
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Let's start by drawing a triangle as such $\$ $\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (-4,0) node[right=50pt, below=5pt] {b} -- (0,0);
\draw (0,0) node[above=40pt, right=5pt] {h} -- (0,3);
\draw (0,3) -- (-4,0) node[above right=50pt] {1};
\draw (0,0) -- (-0.5, 0);
\draw (-0.5,0) -- (-0.5, 0.5);
\draw (-0.5,0.5) -- (0, 0.5);
\draw (0,0.5) -- (0, 0);
\filldraw[fill=green!20!white!, draw=green!50!black] (-4,0) -- (-3.4,0) arc [start angle=0,end angle=38, radius=0.6];
\filldraw[fill=green!20!white!, draw=green!50!black] (0,3) -- (0,2.4) arc [start angle=270,end angle=218, radius=0.6];
\node at (-0.4,2.2) {$\alpha$};
\node at (-3, 0.3) {$\beta$};
\end{tikzpicture}$
$\$ Now let's do a little bit of trigonometry, $$\sin(\alpha)=\frac{b}{1}=h$$ $$\sin(\beta)=\frac{h}{1}=h$$ $$\cos(\alpha)=h$$ $$\cos(\beta)=b$$ now applying pythagoras $$b²+h²=1²$$ $$b=\sqrt{1-h²}$$ so now we will change the trig statements we did before to make all of them in terms of h. $$\sin(\alpha)=\frac{b}{1}=b=\sqrt{1-h²}$$ $$\sin(\beta)=\frac{h}{1}=h$$ $$\cos(\alpha)=h$$ $$\cos(\beta)=b=\sqrt{1-h²}$$ and now pulling out knowledge of $\sin(\alpha+\beta)$ $$\sin(\alpha+\beta)=\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)$$ and from what we got before $$\sqrt{1-h²}\sqrt{1-h²}+h²=(1-h²)+h²=1$$ hence $$\sin(\alpha+\beta)=1$$ now the final move, we know by the unit circle that $$\sin({\color{green}{\frac{π}{2}}})=1$$ $$\sin({\color{green}{\alpha+\beta}})=1$$ hence, $$\alpha+\beta=\frac{π}{2}$$ and finally by the trig rations we did at the very beginning $$\cos(\alpha)=h\implies \alpha=\arccos(h)$$ and $$\beta=\arcsin(h)$$ and subbing that back into $\alpha+\beta=\frac{π}{2}$ we get the desired proof $$\arccos(h)+\arcsin(h)=\frac{π}{2}$$ which works for either letter.

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The drawing took me 90% of the time but there we go

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Typo

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onyx tapir
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@upper karma Thank you so much!

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Very clear explanation

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I appreciate it heaps

upper karma
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Yw!

onyx tapir
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With regards to the example i sent above

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why is that the case logically?

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I know arccos(4/5) = pi/2 - arcsin(4/5)

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From the proof you showcased

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but not sure about this?

upper karma
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@onyx tapir i will add the reason to that to the text so that you have it all jampacked

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Let's start by drawing a triangle as such $\$ $\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (-4,0) node[right=50pt, below=5pt] {b} -- (0,0);
\draw (0,0) node[above=40pt, right=5pt] {h} -- (0,3);
\draw (0,3) -- (-4,0) node[above right=50pt] {1};
\draw (0,0) -- (-0.5, 0);
\draw (-0.5,0) -- (-0.5, 0.5);
\draw (-0.5,0.5) -- (0, 0.5);
\draw (0,0.5) -- (0, 0);
\filldraw[fill=green!20!white!, draw=green!50!black] (-4,0) -- (-3.4,0) arc [start angle=0,end angle=38, radius=0.6];
\filldraw[fill=green!20!white!, draw=green!50!black] (0,3) -- (0,2.4) arc [start angle=270,end angle=218, radius=0.6];
\node at (-0.4,2.2) {$\alpha$};
\node at (-3, 0.3) {$\beta$};
\end{tikzpicture}$
$\$ Now let's do a little bit of trigonometry, $$\sin(\alpha)=\frac{b}{1}=h$$ $$\sin(\beta)=\frac{h}{1}=h$$ $$\cos(\alpha)=h$$ $$\cos(\beta)=b$$ now applying pythagoras $$b²+h²=1²$$ $$b=\sqrt{1-h²}$$ so now we will change the trig statements we did before to make all of them in terms of h. $$\sin(\alpha)=\frac{b}{1}=b=\sqrt{1-h²}$$ $$\sin(\beta)=\frac{h}{1}=h$$ $$\cos(\alpha)=h$$ $$\cos(\beta)=b=\sqrt{1-h²}$$ and now pulling out knowledge of $\sin(\alpha+\beta)$ $$\sin(\alpha+\beta)=\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)$$ and from what we got before $$\sqrt{1-h²}\sqrt{1-h²}+h²=(1-h²)+h²=1$$ hence $$\sin(\alpha+\beta)=1$$ now the final move, we know by the unit circle that $$\sin({\color{green}{\frac{π}{2}}})=1$$ $$\sin({\color{green}{\alpha+\beta}})=1$$ hence, $$\alpha+\beta=\frac{π}{2}$$ and finally by the trig rations we did at the very beginning $$\cos(\alpha)=h\implies \alpha=\arccos(h)$$ and $$\beta=\arcsin(h)$$ and subbing that back into $\alpha+\beta=\frac{π}{2}$ we get the desired proof $$\arccos(h)+\arcsin(h)=\frac{π}{2}$$ which works for either letter.

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And for your case, $$\arccos(-\frac45)=\frac{π}{2}+\arcsin(\frac45)$$ notice that arcsin is odd, which means that $f(-x)=-f(x)$, and using common sense $-(-\frac45)=\frac45$ : $$\arccos(-\frac45)=\frac{π}{2}+\arcsin(-(-\frac45))$$ using arcsin's parity $$\arccos(-\frac45)=\frac{π}{2}+(-\arcsin(-\frac45))$$ which ends up with the original identity $$\arccos(-\frac45)=\frac{π}{2}-\arcsin(-\frac45)$$ $$ \arccos(-\frac45)+\arcsin(-\frac45)=\frac{π}{2}$$

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upper karma
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@onyx tapir does all this clarify it?

onyx tapir
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That makes so much sense

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Thank you so much for your time

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You said notice that sin (4/5) is odd

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What does that mean?

upper karma
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f is odd if f(-x) = - f(x)

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so for example sin(x) is odd, in fact sin(-x)=-sin(x)

onyx tapir
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I see

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Thank you

upper karma
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You said notice that sin (4/5) is odd
i did not say such, i said arcsin was odd

pastel anchor
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does anyone know how to do sqrt(-2) *sqrt(-2)?

junior light
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Uh you're looking for $(\sqrt{-2})^2=(i\sqrt{2})^2=2i^2=-2$

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silent plank
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by definition of the square root, sqrt(x)*sqrt(x) = x

pastel anchor
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where did the negative sign go?

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it went from sqrt-2 to sqrt2i

junior light
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Uh isn't that how you define i though?

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sqrt(-1) is defined to be i

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So sqrt(-2) is just sqrt(2)i

upper karma
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you should have put i in front of the root

junior light
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Umm it doesn't seem clear? I'll change it then.

upper karma
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it looks like i is still in the root

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it looks like i is still in the root
if you dont look closely

somber coyoteBOT
junior light
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Aight then

pastel anchor
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ok ty bros does (sqrt-4)^3 equal to -8i or just 8i?

upper karma
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-8i

pliant dawn
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Square root and the square takes out eachother

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No need to convert to imaginary figures

upper karma
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You mean (√{-4} )^3 is a real number ?

pliant dawn
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Nope but if you take the third root instead it will take out ^3 and leave you with - 4 🙂

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TedNowKaczynski:
@somber coyote I meant this one when I made my statement before

paper vale
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it is trivial

pliant dawn
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Well maths is about to be as efficient as possible while sparing as much time as possible

celest horizon
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How would I calculate the area of a spherical square?

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so it's like 2 equal triangles, one angle is 2 times larger than other 2, and 2 sides are known

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is that right?

upper karma
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can someone tell me what to do

silent plank
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apply properties of straight lines to set up some equations

upper karma
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i did

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then?

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how shld i set up the system of equations

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@silent plank

silent plank
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wdym

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what do you have now?

upper karma
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what shld my equations be

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8x=2x+4y?

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or

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4x+7y+2x+4y=180

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idk i hvavent done this in ages

silent plank
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both

upper karma
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oh

silent plank
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that will be your system

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and then solve using sub or elimination

upper karma
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omg ok

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tysm

upper karma
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What is like of symmetry?

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and what are angles

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I know one is E, but what do angles mean

silent plank
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knowing what angles are is kinda manadatory for geo

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look it up

upper karma
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I think I get it now

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thanks

hallow crystal
paper vale
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lol why are they using integers to denote a variable

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that is silly

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but yea just form an equation and then u can solve it

hallow crystal
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LOL I have no clue what I’m doing

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@paper vale

paper vale
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rip do u know what an angle is lol

hallow crystal
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I’m in geometry and my friend who Idk what class she’s in asked me to help her with this problem 😭 I don’t think we’ve done this unit yet in my class

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rip do u know what an angle is lol
@paper vale
Did I get the 180° part right at least 😔

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upper karma
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i cannot figure this out

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is this a test

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no it’s a warmup

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uh ok

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what have you tried

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if that counts as a test idk

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does it count as grade?

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the warmup

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like 5 points but only as participation

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ig that's kind of in the limit of okay

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what have you tried

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@upper karma ...?

pliant dawn
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ABC and CDE are two equilateral triangles. The two triangles have A as a common corner, see the figure below. Prove that AD=BE

twin prawn
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Hint: compare triangles ADC and BEC with each other

upper karma
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since it is equilateral, then each angle inside the triangle equals to 60°;
as they are equilateral, their sides follow a proportion. Then, it's a product between AC and a constant (k > 1, since CD > AC);
the angle opposite to AD is a + 60° and the angle opposite to BE is a+60°. By proportion (as you see in the image), they are the same triangle and BE = AD, as desired

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maybe i jumped some steps, but you can do it by yourself just seeing the image

vapid slate
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Use f(x) = -x + 3 and g(x) = x2 - 2x - 10 to answer:

g(-2) - 5

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pls help

upper karma
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@vapid slate do you mind to send a pic?

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of the problem

paper vale
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it it trivial by spiral similarity

karmic spruce
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I figured you would probably have to use the distance formula between two points:

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and I know that point A would have to meet x^2 + y^2 = 4.

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But from that point I got stuck

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(Disclaimer: This isn't for a test or anything. It's for an animation controller program I'm writing)

pastel anchor
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yo can anyone explain the steps to me for this question?

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(7 - √-9) - (4 - √-36)

karmic spruce
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Is that a minus sign?
√-9
?
@pastel anchor

pastel anchor
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yea

karmic spruce
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You can't do the square root of a negative number without using complex number

pastel anchor
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it becomes 3i

karmic spruce
pastel anchor
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im learning complex numbers in trig

karmic spruce
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ooh shit

pastel anchor
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so are there steps?

karmic spruce
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give me a sec

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Write out the negative square roots in i

pastel anchor
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so it becomes 3i and 69?

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6i*

karmic spruce
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I meant the whole equation

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It would become this

pastel anchor
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yea thats what i meant

karmic spruce
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since √-9 = 3i
and √-36 = 6i

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remove the brackets by doing the usual method

pastel anchor
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so is it -3i+6i?

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isnt there a suppose to be a subtraction sign between the parantheses