#geometry-and-trigonometry

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gentle bear
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big time lost

soft dagger
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okay

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it has a magnitude of 98

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and forms an angle with the x axis of 331

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can you try and draw that

pulsar merlin
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@upper karma my teacher just told me to skip the assignment after i just did 10 questions....

devout kraken
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So the equation would be. C = arcsin(x/40)

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?

dim gyro
gentle bear
upper karma
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@pulsar merlin damn

soft dagger
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@gentle bear the angle is supposed to 331°

upper karma
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@dim gyro what do you want

gentle bear
soft dagger
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331 is the angle not the magnitude @gentle bear

dim gyro
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@upper karmai need help with picture number 1

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idk what to do

upper karma
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Ok

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Are you here

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@dim gyro

dim gyro
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yes

upper karma
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I gtg to eat so quick, use the complementary angles in 70° to get the inner angle of the triangle. Use the cosine law using 2 side lengths and one angle (the one you get by doing what its on the beginning of the message).

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Ill be back in one hour to confirm your results, good luck.

noble token
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Hey, I'm having trouble visualizing this problem and I was wondering if somebody could help me work through it.

upper karma
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@noble token well, you could google "right prism"

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and see what it looks like

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you could also google "what is the slant height from a right prism"

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from that drawing, you need "s"

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you already know "h"

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and you know "r" (which is half of "a")

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the perimeter of the square base is 24

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that means "a" = ... ?

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then once you have "r" and "h", Pythagoras' theorem

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and you get "s"

noble token
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ah

upper karma
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you with me so far, @noble token ?

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good

noble token
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yea so h = 8

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r = 4

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no

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r = 3

upper karma
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3, yes

silent plank
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uh. prism and pyramid are different.

noble token
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ah

upper karma
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slant height?

noble token
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that's where i was getting tripped up

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because that ain't a prism

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that's a pyramid

silent plank
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a square prism doesn't have a "slant height".

noble token
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so the question is flawed

silent plank
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it is unclear what the question bwants

noble token
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that's what i suspected

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i'm gonna assume pyramid for the sake of the question

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then it's just a 3 4 5 triangle

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so the slant height would be 5, yes?

upper karma
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maybe it looks like this?

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"slant height"

acoustic jungle
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your end faces are not equal

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nor parallel

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and the sides are not parallelograms

dusky surge
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,w frustum

somber coyoteBOT
dusky surge
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Opps

upper karma
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in a right prism, all angles are 90 degrees

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right?

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so there's no "slant height"

dim gyro
silent plank
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not quite. how are you getting 21.6?

dim gyro
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i put16.66−14.7×cos(110) in the calculator

silent plank
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which gets you:

dim gyro
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21.6

upper karma
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that's not the law of cosines
edit: it is

silent plank
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Is the calculator saying anything else?

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did it's just put 21.6 and stop there?

dim gyro
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21.6876961069

silent plank
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which doesn't round to 21.6

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also you should not be rounding yet

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the stored value above is what you should be square rooting

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it is also a good idea to write out the full equation instead of just one side of the cos law

upper karma
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it rounds off to 4.7, not 4.6

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Hey im back

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I told @dim gyro what he had to do

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It worked good?

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heh, I was off a bit

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fricken' rounding off

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but it still gets you to 4.657, which is still closer to 4.7

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Good it worked

rapid siren
upper karma
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SSS

rapid siren
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thx

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i got few more

upper karma
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AAA

silent plank
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do you know the theorems related to similarity and congruency?

upper karma
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@upper karma stop giving the answers, its totally what you aren't suppose to do in this server

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You might give him a clue, method or anything to help but an straight solution

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ight then

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Good

humble pebble
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rent free i need answers too

upper karma
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i'll give you hints since i can't give answers

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@humble pebble be like FeelsSpecialMan

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(kidding)

humble pebble
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@upper karma be like 👨🏿

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fun at parties

upper karma
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Not really

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Lmao

humble pebble
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oh ok thanks for the answer

upper karma
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But if you could read my previous messages and rules, which is what you have to do in a server, you'll understand the matter

humble pebble
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oops wrong dm

upper karma
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if you're only given sides... what did you think the answer was gonna be?

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and if you're only given angles...

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lmao ikr

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I mean, come on

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Yeah lol

silent plank
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however if you're only given angles it doesn't mean that the triangles are ||necessarily ... ||

devout kraken
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what’s the equation to find opposite from a hyp and angle? Is there one?

upper karma
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sin(theta) * hyp

versed river
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$\sin(\theta)=\frac{O}{H}$

somber coyoteBOT
versed river
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$H\sin(\theta)=O$

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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Yes! 👍

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soh cah toa

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Yes!

devout kraken
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What abt adjacent?

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given angle and hyp

silent plank
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refer to you trig ratios and which do you think would be appropriate

devout kraken
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cos(theta)=adj/hyp ?

silent plank
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yep

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and then isolate adj if that is what you want to find

devout kraken
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$\cos(\theta)=\frac{A}{H}$

somber coyoteBOT
devout kraken
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okayokay thank you

acoustic jungle
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Just a thought, proving triangle congruency all comes down to SSS and the fact only 1 triangle can be constructed with 3 given side lengths

devout kraken
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There’s also SAS , ASA, and AAS?

acoustic jungle
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SAS - SSS congruence by cosine law

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ASA - SSS congruence by sign law

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AAS is literally the same thing as ASA

silent plank
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don't forget rhs

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*sine

upper karma
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I mean, doesnt cosine and sine's rule/laws have more uses than those

upper karma
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Yes

oak pawn
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Could someone help me find ACO

devout harbor
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@oak pawn There's a property, the tangent to a circle always forms a 90 degree angle with the radius at that point

upper karma
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isn't it a right angle?

devout harbor
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yes

upper karma
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ok

oak pawn
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Oh I wasn’t sure usually they put the right angle sign then in this book, thanks

vague berry
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i got a trig test tomorrow 😮

tight tide
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heya is anyone else here doing High School Khan Academy Geometry ?

quick schooner
vague pagoda
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yeah

upper karma
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@quick schooner do you even SOH CAH TOA, bro?

vague pagoda
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what have u tried

quick schooner
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no what do i do here sin36=hypothensuse/opposite

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sin36=4cm/b

upper karma
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what does sin(36) evaluate to?

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(set your calculator to degrees first, not radians)

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,w sin(36)

somber coyoteBOT
quick schooner
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our teacher said not to use a calculator

upper karma
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ok, then just keep it as "sin(36)"

quick schooner
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k

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thanks

upper karma
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so you have:
sin(36) = 4 / b

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what does "b" equal to?

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solve for "b"

quick schooner
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sorry if i sound dumb here but i have no idea how to find b

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all i know is that b is the hypothenuse

upper karma
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or...

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you could think of it like:

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3 = 6 / 2

quick schooner
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ohhhh

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thanks

upper karma
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and move the "2" over to the other side

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(so that the equation evaluates to true)

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"b" is the "2" in that example

rich wolf
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Omg

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Do you really need that many steps to solve a division problem

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That is painful to look at

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Lol mb actually i scrolled up and saw

woeful nova
dark sparrow
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let me reproduce your diagram in a more easily readable format

woeful nova
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alright

dark sparrow
woeful nova
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so would a ratio solve since similar?

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3 X

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_ _

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  •  -
    
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4 5

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and then cross multipliy?

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x=15/4

dark sparrow
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15/4 is the correct answer yes

woeful nova
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thanks!!!!!!!

woeful nova
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when you add radicals, is it just like how you'd think you add them 7 |2| + 7|2| = 16 ?

dark sparrow
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uh

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are you using |2| for the square root of 2 or something

woeful nova
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yeah

dark sparrow
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do not

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that's not what | ... | means

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$|x|$ and $\sqrt{x}$ are two entirely different things

somber coyoteBOT
woeful nova
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`|----

dark sparrow
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that is even worse.

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just write sqrt().

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sqrt(2)

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like this

woeful nova
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okay

dark sparrow
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anyway, no, $7\sqrt{2} + 7\sqrt{2} \neq 16$.

somber coyoteBOT
hollow tiger
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I think he means to ask if you can add radicals

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in which case yeah you can

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7 * sqrt(2) + 7 * sqrt(2) = 14*sqrt(2)

dark sparrow
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but that isn't what he said.

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he asked if 7sqrt(2) + 7sqrt(2) was equal to 16

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and the answer to that is an unambiguous no

hollow tiger
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ok I guess I'm just confused now lmao

woeful nova
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7sqrt(2) + 7sqrt(2) = 14sqrt(2)

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?

hollow tiger
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yes

dark sparrow
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see that's actually correct this time

woeful nova
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okay thanks

gentle bear
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this is the graph I came up with

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here is the work I did

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Maybe I don’t understand I should be doing fully but I was under the impression I take the middle values and multiply it against 2

upper karma
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How will x^4 - 16

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Be factored?

silent plank
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consider x^4 = (x^2)^2 and 16 = 4^2

vale nimbus
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sin(x) + sin(3x) = 2cos(x)

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i combined sin(x) and sin(3x) and then divided both sides by 2cos(x) so im left with sin(2x) = 1

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but then i only get 1 of the 2 solution sets

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i guess the other way to solve is to move 2cos(x) over to the left, combine sin(x) and sin(3x) again and then factor out 2cos(x)

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but i dont see why what i did doesnt give me the full solution

silent plank
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dividing both sides by cos(x) erases the solution you would get from cos(x) = 0

vale nimbus
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thanks man

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wait what even when i factor that stuff out i still only get 1 of the sets

silent plank
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can you write out your work?

upper karma
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What type of factoring will be used for 20x^2 - 4x?

silent plank
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in use

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(also not geo/trig)

vale nimbus
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sin(x) + sin(3x) = 2cos(x)
sin(x) + sin(3x) - 2cos(x) = 0
2sin(2x)cos(x) - 2cos(x) = 0
2cos(x)[sin(2x) - 1] = 0

silent plank
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did the give a restriction on x?

vale nimbus
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nope

silent plank
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can you show me the rest of your work? that looks ok so far.

vale nimbus
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im stupid FeelsBadMan

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my handwriting is so ugly i wrote my 1/4 so poorly it looked like a 1/2

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i got it now dw

upper karma
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No you are not

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Lol

vale nimbus
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should i try to avoid dividing by stuff when solving these sorts of equations?

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so i dont eliminate possible sets

silent plank
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try not to don't divide by stuff that could be 0

upper karma
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@silent plank Do you know bout my question?

vale nimbus
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oki, thanks

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@upper karma factor out 4x

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4x(5x-1)

upper karma
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But what type of factoring?

vale nimbus
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uh

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idk? factoring?

silent plank
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common factors?

upper karma
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Alright

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For what values of k can 3x2 + kx - 8 be factored?

silent plank
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(also not geo/trig)

night summit
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i dont know what i did wrong

upper karma
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you have to find the value of x

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when x = cos ^-1 (-8/9)

night summit
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where did cos come from?

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the video has nothing to do with it

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thats just an exampe

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example*

silent plank
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show your work

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how are you getting the 170.4 and 189.6

night summit
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i substitute x for sinx and y for tanx and solved

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then found reference angle because when solving for y or tanx you get a reference angle of 9.6

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i added that to 180 and subtracted from 180

vale nimbus
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cant u factor out tan(x)

silent plank
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substitute x for sinx
using the same varaible bad

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why did you add it to 180?

night summit
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cus thats what the video did

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the guy in the video*

silent plank
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how you use your reference angle depends on the sign and the trig function

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where is sin positive?

night summit
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quad 1 and quad 2 only

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all strippers take cash

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i know

silent plank
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9.6° is already in quadrant 1

night summit
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yea

silent plank
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subtracting that from 180 gets you 170.4° (the solution in quadrant 2)

night summit
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yea

silent plank
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and that's it

night summit
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wat?

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theres no

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3rd answer?

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i have a question a tho

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a question*

silent plank
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well your 0° and 180° for tan(x)=0 are fine

night summit
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how do i know

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if its 0 and 180

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is it always 0 and 180?

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or does it depend on the sign?

silent plank
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if what's 0 and 180?

night summit
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the first 2 options

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so if cos was 0

silent plank
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what sign?
0 is neither positive nor negative.
and x= 0, 180° are the only solutions to tan(x)=0 in the given interval

night summit
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yea i get that

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but if cos was 0

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what would the first 2 options be

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and if sin was 0

silent plank
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refer to the unit circle if you are unfamiliar with these

night summit
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ok ty

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wait

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what do I do if its a whole number

silent plank
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if what's a whole number?

night summit
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when i solve for sin

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it gives me 7

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and when i solve for tan it gives me 0

upper karma
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how did u solve it

night summit
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i substituted s for sin and t for tan

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so i did st=7t

silent plank
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you shouldn't need to resort to subtitutions for these questions

upper karma
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^

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what you need to do is bring 7tan x to the left side

vale nimbus
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uh i have a question can i ask now or should i post it in one of the question channels

upper karma
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question channels

silent plank
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anyway sin(x) =7 has no real solutions

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so ig leave 2 boxes blank

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and only input the solutions you get from tan

night summit
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tan is 0

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so

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i only put

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0 and 180?

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yes i got it ty

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@silent plank sry but if a function comes out with a whole number like 1 and increasing, does that mean it has no solution?

silent plank
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can you be more specific?

night summit
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so if sin(x) = 1

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it has no real solution?

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so sin(x) cos(x) and tan(x). if any of these 3 functions equal to a whole number

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they have no solution?

silent plank
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sin(x) = 1 definitely has real solutions

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so does cos(x) = 1

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sin(x) = c and
cos(x) = c have no real solutions if
|c| > 1

vale nimbus
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tan(x) + 4sin²(x) + 2 = 4sin²[(pi/4) + x]

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how to solve FeelsBadMan

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asked in #help-1 but we couldnt figure it out and now the channel's been robbed

night summit
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ok ty ramanov

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ramonov*

silent plank
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and tan(x)=c has solutions for all real c

vale nimbus
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after 5 hours i still cant solve trigonometric equations

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and im supposed to be able to do inequalities and inverse trigonometry by monday

upper karma
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Inequalities are ez

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Just post questions here

vague berry
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Yo

vale nimbus
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i just cant do equations

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im hoping inequalities are similar to equations

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but i cant even do those so it aint looking too good

vague berry
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hey guys how would you write the domain of 2sec(x)?

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like what is the correct notation?

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given that cos58˚ = a/c and sin 58˚ = b/c, calculate the expression tan302˚ + csc212˚ + sec 122˚. Answer as a fraction in simplest form

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please help me

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ping me maybe

novel mango
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what have you tried het

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evaluate tan(2pi-x)

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tell hows it related to tan(x)

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Hint here :||360-58=302||

vague berry
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ooh ok

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i kinda get what u mean

novel mango
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just try to get these in terms of the standard angles

vague berry
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wait can you give me an example

novel mango
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also like 212=270-58=3*90-58

vague berry
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like tan(2π-x) like how do you evaluate that

novel mango
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there

vague berry
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oh

novel mango
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do you know how to evaluate the trigonometric ratios of compound of angles

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i.e like a sum of angles

vague berry
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no we haven't learned it such a lazy teacher

hollow tiger
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I have a sheet of formulas if yall need one

novel mango
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its useful and helps you relate
tan(A+B) with tan(A) and tan(B) individullaly

vague berry
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Hmmm

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how can i apply it for each one

novel mango
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have you learnt complex numbers?

vague berry
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Yes I have

novel mango
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nice

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e^ix=cos(x)+isin(x) do you know this VERY famous relation?

vague berry
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well

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No I don't

novel mango
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ok then you know it now

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its known as eulers identity

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so observe how i use this

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to get the trig ratios for sin(A+B)

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e^(i(A+B))=e^(iA+iB)=e^(iA)*e^(iB)=(cos(A)+isin(A))(cos(B)+isin(B))

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read this take time

rich wolf
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let x=a+b

novel mango
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do you understand everything?

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@vague berry

vague berry
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um

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yeh im still here

novel mango
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do you underatand the line?

vague berry
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im trying to

novel mango
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yea sure

vague berry
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but its kinda challenging for me since we have never once gone over it

novel mango
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its very useful and you can skip all work

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its just algebra

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see i used the fact that a^(b+c)=a^b.a^c

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you can multiply it out for getting the formula

vague berry
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Ok I think I got it

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how would one attempt

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Īt is known that k is an x-intercept for the function f(x) = sin (x-m), where m is a positive integer. Find ONE of the x-intercepts fro the function g(x) = cos (x-m) in terms of k.

novel mango
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Ok you can see that later anyways
$\tan{(A+B)}=\frac{\tan(A)+\tan(B)}{1-\tan(A)\tan(B)}$

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is the formula You would need

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it would follow after some work with the e^ix thig

somber coyoteBOT
digital gulch
upper karma
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well if K is perpendicular to L, then its slope it the negative inverse of L's slope

digital gulch
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Yeah

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So k’s slope is 1/2

upper karma
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yah

digital gulch
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Yeah i got that part

upper karma
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divide the number in the point that passes L with the slope of L

digital gulch
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Why

upper karma
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cuz thats how u find r in the first point

digital gulch
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Oh ok

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So you divide it by -2?

upper karma
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yes

digital gulch
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R/-2,3/2

upper karma
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now do the same thing with your second point and the slope of K

digital gulch
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12,2r

upper karma
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yes

digital gulch
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What do i do with that?

upper karma
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oh hang on

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6 was the x-coordinate, not the y-coordinate. my bad

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what you should do is multiply 6 with the slope of K, not divide

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my apologizes

digital gulch
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Oh ok

upper karma
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so your 2nd r should be 3

digital gulch
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3,r/2

upper karma
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so your points should be (3/2 , 3) and (6 , 3)

digital gulch
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Oh

upper karma
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you know what? the 2nd r should also be 1.5 actually. i read the question incorrectly

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and ignore what i said about the slope of K.

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so your first point on line L should be (1.5 , -3) and your second point on K should be (6, 1.5)

digital gulch
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Oh

upper karma
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yah i fucked up again. my bad i don't mean to confuse you

digital gulch
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Its ok

upper karma
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alright

digital gulch
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Yeah the rest was easy

upper karma
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ok good

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did u solve it

digital gulch
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Yeah

upper karma
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do u mind sharing your answer?

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i got .6

digital gulch
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-1.2?

upper karma
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yah

digital gulch
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Ok

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Thanks

upper karma
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yah np

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i graphed it and i got (.6 and -1.2)

digital gulch
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Oh wait its asking for a

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My bad

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Its 0.6

inland bluff
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Yo

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Anyone down to help

rich wolf
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Bro

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Posting the same question twice

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🤡

plush burrow
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Given that the terminal arm passes through the point (-3, -4), find the exact values of all trigonometric ratios

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can someone help me on this please

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i need 3

merry abyss
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plot on Cartesian plane

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and find hypotenuse

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which is also radius

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then find the trig ratios and use CAST

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not a full answer sry

plush burrow
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thanks dude

crimson olive
upper karma
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What's 36 degrees

crimson olive
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i'm not even sure lmao thats what was so confusing

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maybe the arc but im not really sure?

rich wolf
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This is simple

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Angle DCA is half of arc DA

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And opposite angles of a cyclic quadrilateral add up to 180

upper karma
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what is the number of degrees of arc AB?

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remember, the whole thing is 360 deg

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arc AD + arc AB = ?

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maybe this will help:

crimson olive
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i got it thank you so much!

digital gulch
upper karma
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plot it and see what you get

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or rather, if you didn't have to plot it, what would AC be?

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hint: ||law of cosines||

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this also sounds like it could be a 30-60-90 triangle

digital gulch
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How do i plot it?

upper karma
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start from the origin

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make AB a horizontal line

digital gulch
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Ok

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How do i plot point C

upper karma
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BC is a diagonal line

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(the hypothenuse)

digital gulch
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It cant be a 30-60-90 triangle

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BC would be 6

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But that would make AB 6 times sqrt(3)

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And 8 is not 6 times sqrt(3)

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So it cant be a 30-60-90 triangle

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We also dont know if its a right triangle

upper karma
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I plotted it wrong 🙂 ABC = 30 deg

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not 90

digital gulch
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Im just gonna use law of cosines

silent plank
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it doesn't really make sense to use coordinate geo to do this question

upper karma
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maybe if you used a ruler

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and measured it "manually"

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and a protractor for measuring the angle

digital gulch
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Yeah i got that

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Thanks

potent crane
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Anyone know if I need to label something for the -1 on f(x) axis?

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since x != pi/2

upper karma
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30-60-90 triangles have a certain property

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that the hypotenuse is equal to ||twice the length of the shorter leg||

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so the dotted line (i.e. the shorter leg) would be...?

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then you can find the side with the question mark

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you can Pythagoras' theorem your way through this without any protractors and stuff

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@digital gulch you understand what I'm saying?

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using the law of cosines is a shortcut, but that's not what the question asked you to do 🙂

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they chose 30 degrees for precisely this reason

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@potent crane what is the midline of that graph?

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don't forget the ">" arrows on your axis

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the vertical line is the y axis

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and it doesn't have anything with "pi" on it

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what is the amplitude of that function?

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the midline?

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and the period

upper karma
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@potent crane
UPDATE: this is wrong. Should be cos(x)(1/(x-(pi/2)))

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how about now? do you know what the amplitude and midline are now?

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from "cos(x)(something)"

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hint: ||1cos(x)(something) + 0||

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aaaand you're offline

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nice

dark sparrow
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they're not just offline, they straight up left

old holly
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hello can i ask something

upper karma
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if it's related to trig, sure

old holly
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this is really dumb

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but

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since when is the volume of this not $\frac{1}{3} \cdot 100\pi \cdot 13cm^3$

somber coyoteBOT
old holly
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it's kinda geometry

dark sparrow
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10 cm is the diameter

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and not the radius

old holly
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ah

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ok got it

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fucc im dumb

acoustic jungle
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this is not right.

upper karma
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yep

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should be cos(x)(1/(x-(pi/2)))

upper karma
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True i was gonna say that

dark sparrow
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f r e s h m a n s d r e a m

vale nimbus
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could i have some help with goniometric inequalities?

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dont really have a specific problem in mind but i think a good place to start is with tan(3x) <= sqrt(3)/3

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we luckly only have to do basic inequalities but they're still too hard for my pea-sized brain

acoustic jungle
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Well, if you let 3x = u then tan (u) = 1/sqrt3 and u=30 or 180+30

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so 0<u<=30 and you will have to do it for the third quadrant as well

vale nimbus
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dont really know what i did wrong

vale nimbus
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<@&286206848099549185> where did i go wrong?

dusky surge
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,w graph tan(x/3)

somber coyoteBOT
hallow rose
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The general solution for $ \tan(x)= \tan(y)$ is $x= n\cdot \pi +y$

somber coyoteBOT
vale nimbus
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i dont get it FeelsBadMan

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i mean i see why its that

dusky surge
vale nimbus
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but i dont even understand how to solve these inequalities

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in the book they draw a circle which is an understandable thing to do, but then they get pi/2 involved too

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which i can see why but not how

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they do that cuz tan isnt defined when the angle is pi/2

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but idk how you're supposed to take that into account in your answer set

dusky surge
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As you can see from the graph, for tangent(x/3)≤√3/3
The values are clear

vale nimbus
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bro im not supposed to do it graphically lol

dusky surge
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We can do it with the help of reading graph and understand the pattern

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For the 'first'curve , that inequality holds for -3π/2 <x ≤π/2

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So you can see for these questions about tan(x) smaller than a number, it will have a pause on every π/2+nπ

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Like the second' curve, the inequality holds for 3π/2<x≤7π/2

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Do you see the pattern?

vale nimbus
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no FeelsBadMan

dusky surge
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Ah... Okay, lemme use a question for example

vale nimbus
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in class we always did these using the unit circle

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but its been so long that ive forgotten

dusky surge
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Okay... But using unit circle on tangent values is harder than sine and cosine

vale nimbus
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i mean like i understand the drawing now but i dont see how they got their part with π/2 from it

dusky surge
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Very well. Let's continue with your question then.

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I'll type it out

vale nimbus
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the solution should be (-3π/2)+3nx < x < π/2 + 3nx

dusky surge
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$\tan{(\frac{x}3)}\leq\frac{\sqrt3}3$

somber coyoteBOT
dusky surge
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I'm handicapped with Latex...

vale nimbus
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if you feel more comfortable writing it down on paper go ahead :p

dusky surge
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Okay, gimme some moment

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For this first range I picked, everything under the line y=√3/3 and on the tan(x/3), it will suits the inequality

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And since it happens for every repeated copies of this first range, we can easily generalize the inequality

vale nimbus
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i can understnad that

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but on the drawing in my notes there's some weird stuff

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holdon let me send a picture

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the top part is also marked

dusky surge
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Hmm... You mean the pi/2 part?

vale nimbus
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yeah

dusky surge
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But tan(pi/2) is undefined...

vale nimbus
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yes

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holdon quick question inbetween

dusky surge
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Yea?

vale nimbus
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does this one look right?

dusky surge
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Let's see

vale nimbus
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the order of my stuff isnt right

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i just realised

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just imagine the 3pi/4 part being on the left

dusky surge
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I think it's the other way round lol

vale nimbus
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what do you mean?

dusky surge
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just imagine the 3pi/4 part being on the left
@vale nimbus
This

vale nimbus
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i was told to put the smallest angle to the left of x

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im dumb nvm

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yeah it should be the way it is

dusky surge
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You should

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But....

vale nimbus
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is the solution correct?

dusky surge
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The right side should be pi/4 +2pi+2kpi

vale nimbus
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why?

dusky surge
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Then 3pi/4 will be the smaller one :D

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Lemme draw it out

vale nimbus
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is there a reason for that?

dusky surge
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It should be below this straight line

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If it's you're solution, you are describing the things above the straight line

vale nimbus
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huuuuh

dusky surge
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I'm sorry for the ambiguity, I am just not used to using unit circles to solve these kinds of problems

vale nimbus
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i understand the drawing just not what you mean by mine is above the straight line FeelsBadMan

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nor do i see how adding 2pi to the right side would fix that

dusky surge
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From what I understand from your last question, the 2nd line is describig something like this

vale nimbus
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but why add 2pi

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thats whats throwing me off the most

dusky surge
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But when we actually need this

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Since the angle is moving anti clockwise, we add 2pi to make the inequality easier to be written out

vale nimbus
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i'm sorry but i still dont see how that solves the problem FeelsBadMan

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is that just to make it easier? or does that fix the issue of the shaded area being in the wrong place

dusky surge
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Yea, I fix the issue of the shaded area being in the wrong place, it's about angle moving anti clockwise

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Because we cannot describe clockwise from π/4 to 3π/4 the angles between them

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So we add 2pi to fix the problem

vale nimbus
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ooooh i think i get it

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so you always describe the angles clockwise?

dusky surge
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By adding 2pi, turning it back to an anticlockwise situation

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Piece, you have given me a new insight in solving problems using unit circles, thank you!

vale nimbus
dusky surge
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So does that make sense now?

vale nimbus
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abit yeah!

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let me try another

dusky surge
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Sure!

vale nimbus
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you dont have to add 2pi here since you can describe clockwise from -2pi/3 to -pi/3

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i think

dusky surge
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Hmmm

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Remember, we always describe them in the anticlockwise direction

vale nimbus
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so the angles have to be positive?

dusky surge
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Nah, you are already describing anticlockwise direction😀

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Try to draw the 2 angles on a unit circle and you'll see it

vale nimbus
dusky surge
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Ahhh, it's the other way round XD

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I kinda know what you don't understand

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You know sine it's the y in the unit circle right?

vale nimbus
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yes

dusky surge
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So, for sin(something) < N for some constant N

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On the graph, it's just everything that is under the line y=N and on the unit circle

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So in this case, it's anticlockwise from -2π/3 to -π/3

vale nimbus
dusky surge
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Sorry....

vale nimbus
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no problem man its not your fault

dusky surge
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Don't mean to make your mind explode

vale nimbus
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but wait why does -pi/3 have to be on the left

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isnt that -60°

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and -2pi/3 = -120°

dusky surge
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Yea, -2pi/3 is on the left, what you wrote was right.

vale nimbus
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oh ok

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sorry lol

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so how do i know in which direction i should be going

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like counter-clockwise or just clockwise

dusky surge
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For me, I just read the graph...

vale nimbus
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can you give me another problem?

dusky surge
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This is what I read which range should it be.

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can you give me another problem?
@vale nimbus
Wanna try cosine?

vale nimbus
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uh 1 more sine, i think it just clicked

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not sure tho

dusky surge
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Okay

vale nimbus
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brb 2minutes

dusky surge
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$\sin{(x)}\leq\frac12$

somber coyoteBOT
dusky surge
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Okay

vale nimbus
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back

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k let me see

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i feel like i had to add 2pi

dusky surge
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Yea

vale nimbus
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i cant say why again tho fuck sake

dusky surge
vale nimbus
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mhm

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so when it has to be below i have to describe counter clockwise and when i have to say when its above i have to describe clockwise?

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or is that a bad generlisation

dusky surge
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Nah, it's a bit more complicated than that

vale nimbus
dusky surge
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when it's below,
Value negative, then it's cool
Value is positive, need to add 2pi

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And the situation is different for 'above' case

vale nimbus
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but wait

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here the value was negative and it wasnt cool

dusky surge
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This is correct

vale nimbus
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wait waa

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so that one's correct?

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that solution

dusky surge
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Yea

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Has always been

vale nimbus
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omg i think

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i really get it now

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i dont do it with a graph but i try to interpert the (something)<x<(something)

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and i think i get it now

dusky surge
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Oh okay

vale nimbus
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the smallest my angle can be is the thing on the left and the biggest my angle can be is the thing on the right

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idk i cant really explain it

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can you give me another problem with sin?

dusky surge
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It's okay, as long as you get it xD

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$sin(2x)<-\frac12$

somber coyoteBOT
vale nimbus
dusky surge
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Hmmm...-5pi/6 is smaller than -pi/6

vale nimbus
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... right

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brainfart sorry

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been at it for a while now :p

dusky surge
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Yea, I know it'll be real tried for ya

vale nimbus
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if u switch the left and right around tho, is it correct?

dusky surge
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Anyway, if those two interchange, it's correct

vale nimbus
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YES

dusky surge
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Yea

vale nimbus
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ok 1 last one

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and then its dinner time for me

dusky surge
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Let's try the 'above' case

rich wolf
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Bro its only 1:30

vale nimbus
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im from belgium

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7:30pm for me

dusky surge
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We're from different timezones XD

rich wolf
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Lmao

dusky surge
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01:30 for me

vale nimbus
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AM?

dusky surge
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Yep

rich wolf
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Japan?

vale nimbus
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that doesnt sound very healthy

dusky surge
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Hong Kong

rich wolf
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LOL

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I was close

dusky surge
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Indeed... It's unhealthy, staying up doing maths

rich wolf
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Im pretty sure thats the same time zone though

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HK and Japan

vale nimbus
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could u give me 1 last problem? then its bedtime for you 😤

dusky surge
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Doubt that> Im pretty sure thats the same time zone though
@rich wolf

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Oooo

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Sure

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Lemme type

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$\sin(x+\frac{π}4)>\frac{\sqrt2}2$

somber coyoteBOT
vale nimbus
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kk

dusky surge
vale nimbus
dusky surge
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Correct!

vale nimbus
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E_MonkaPray thanks so much dude

dusky surge
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You're welcome!

vale nimbus
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i think i understand now PeepoHappy

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hoping its kind of the same thing for cos

dusky surge
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Graphically it's similar XD

vale nimbus
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xD

dusky surge
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But I'm really not sure about it

vale nimbus
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could you give me a cos problem? or are you going to sleep now

dusky surge
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For written ones

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I can, lemme think

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$\cos(x)>\frac{\sqrt3}2$

somber coyoteBOT
dusky surge
vale nimbus
dusky surge
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Correct!

vale nimbus
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and if it was < instead of >

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would the thing above be correct?

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the one that i kidna scribbled out

dusky surge
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Yea!

vale nimbus
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i get it dude

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you're a life saver E_MonkaPray

dusky surge
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You're good!

vale nimbus
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thanks so much man

dusky surge
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No problem man

vale nimbus
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have a good nights rest now PeepoHappy

dusky surge
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Have a good dinner XD

vale nimbus
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anyone else willing to help me get the hang of this?

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think ive got sin and cos down

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tan and cot are next

devout harbor
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good luck

acoustic jungle
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Ok

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I'm getting an impossible triangle

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A triangle that doest obey the sin law

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Could you guys check if the base triangle is not possible

upper karma
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re-draw it

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the angles of depression should be right beside the 315 m line

acoustic jungle
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I'm just verifying whether or not the bottom triangle is impossible, I did the angles of depression correctly

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Also don't refer to my drawing, I had to include it to fit the question in

acoustic jungle
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also that 0 looks like a 2, it is 70 not 72 although this doesn't matter since it's not given in the question anyways.

upper karma
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Lmao how is that a 0

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then write 0 over it

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so it's clear

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yah how is that a 0

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if it's an obtuse angle, you need 180-angle

acoustic jungle
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I said before the drawing is in the picture because I had to fit it in

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You know I'm going to crop it then

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Actually doesn't even matter

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The bottom triangle is impossible. The question has an error

white dew
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can someone explain to me how we get from the second part to the third?

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i tried multiplying but I believe I did it wrong because im getting something different

acoustic jungle
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cross multiplying

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QS * sin 2 = 100 * sin 31

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wait.

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something doesn't seem right...

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are you sure that answer is right

white dew
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my professor sent this problem as an example

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so I am just going of the example so I can do the problem he gave

acoustic jungle
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alright the answer 1475 is correct

white dew
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he just did not breakdown his steps completely

acoustic jungle
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but that third step is wrong

white dew
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wrong how? the process?

surreal flume
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How do I find the length of an arc in a circle when I am given the diameter and the measure of the angle of the arc

upper karma
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do u have a diagram u can show us

surreal flume
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its on the last page on the you try

upper karma
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what question

glacial haven
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arc length is given by the equation r theta

surreal flume
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2 and 4

upper karma
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what does the degrees outside the circle represent

surreal flume
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the angle measure inside

upper karma
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ok

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Angle over 360

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Multiply by circumference

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Easy

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for question 2) you have to find the area of the circle then multiply it by 47 then divide it by 180

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and for question 4) u have to find the circumference then multiply it by 160 then divide by 360

acoustic jungle
lofty dust
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what about the circumference of this?

upper karma
#

globama

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Same thing C = 2 π r

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Just find the radius

lofty dust
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Thank you so much

upper karma
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And plug it in

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Your welcome

rigid pawn
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-3cos(t)/-5sin(t)

glacial haven
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what about it

rigid pawn
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is that csc^2 or cot

glacial haven
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3/5 cot(t)

rigid pawn
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bc i put in the calculator it says csc^2

glacial haven
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its not

versed river
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,w -3cosx/(-5sinx)

somber coyoteBOT
versed river
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See, its cotangent

glacial haven
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isnt that what i said

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wow how do you even do that indefinite integral

versed river
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Yes. I was confirming it to the person who doubted you

glacial haven
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how do you find the integral of cot(x) @versed river

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wait nvm

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you just use u sub

desert pond
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dunno if this belongs here

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but not quite understanding how they get the circle equation in part b

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i understand the dot product, the vector on the right of the dot product is just the vector a

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but how is the vector equation of the circle (r-a) ?

upper karma
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UwU

tired dagger
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@eager kraken

glacial haven
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70

humble pebble
winged hill
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can someone help me with this? i figured out the others but im still stuck on this

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(sorry for the low quality pic my teacher uploaded it that way)

dark sparrow
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inscribed angle theorem

winged hill
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the sides dont have to be equal right?

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equal in length*

dark sparrow
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you don't give a shit about lengths here at all

winged hill
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oo alright thankss

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so its gonna be 113 x 2 which is 226

trail whale
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Can someone help me w these 2

trail whale
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I think the first one is 32

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Can anyone help??

sly grove
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@trail whale for the first one if you work out the length of all the sides of the triangle ACG then you could use the cosine rule

trail whale
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Is the answer 29

sly grove
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no idea lol, i havnt put it in a calculator

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although looking at the diagram that seems about right

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for the record the diagram isnt to scale but its close enough that you know that you are looking for an acute angle probably below 60 degree

trail whale
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Ok thanks

sly grove
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reckon you can handle the other one?

trail whale
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No lol my teacher set me this and we haven't studied it once so it's hard

sly grove
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ok so i just put the first one in the calculator and i also got 29

trail whale
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Yep

sly grove
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for the next part the process is exactly but the slightly harder part is choosing the triangle

trail whale
#

Ok

sly grove
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well what triangle would you pick?

trail whale
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Idk lol

sly grove
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the first thing is do you get what the mean by the angle between the planes

trail whale
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I suppose it means these angles

sly grove
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not for this one

trail whale
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So what angles

sly grove
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AVB is the triangle and ABCD is the square

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so its asking for the angle at where the two shapes meet

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now a reasonable guess might then be to find the angle VAD, but that triangle is at angle so it would be larger than the real value so it wont work

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so youll want to find a triangle that is "upright"

trail whale
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Ok

sly grove
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i dont want to fully give it away so ill let you know that two of the points have letters and the other one is the midpoint of a line

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does everything i said make sense?

trail whale
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So ve

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I think

sly grove
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VE are two of the points but you need one more for a triangle

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the last one doesnt have a letter on it

trail whale
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Ok

sly grove
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figured it out?

trail whale
#

I think the answer is 67

sly grove
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what did you take as the third point?

trail whale
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That thing that don't have a ketter

sly grove
#

just ran it through my calculator and got 67 aswell, nice job

lime storm
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I’m having difficulty with this problem. Originally i got 54 but the multiple choice only has. 32, 44, 52, and 76

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the last parts says what’s m<jkm

silent plank
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there's a theorem for it. i forgot the name but you can derive it from inscribed angles and external angle theorem (by constructing PJ or LM)

upper karma
#

@lime storm what is the value of angle JPM?

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hint: ||inscribed angle theorem||

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well... it's been 5 hours, and you're offline, so I'll just go ahead and post it

rich wolf
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@upper karma bro dont just give out the answer

upper karma
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yeah, you're right

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he's not gonna learn anything like that

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and this: ||remember that all angles from a triangle add up to 180 degrees. And once you have angle PKL, JKM is what's known as a vertical angle (look it up)||

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hopefully it's enough to get him on the right path

pallid cloud
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I couldn't find what they asked for in 3)

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In 1) I showed that using Chasles
In 2) I showed the law of sines using 1)
In 4) I showed the law of cosines using the law of sines already shown in 2)

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In 3) I showed that 2R=a/sinA=b/sinB=c/sinC using the law of sines and some geometry in the triangle and its circumcircle

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But I couldn't express R in terms of 2 sides and the angle between them

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Any help please?

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Ping me when you answer please

pallid cloud
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<@&286206848099549185>

ancient axle
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um

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is anyone alive

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nvm

acoustic jungle
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@pallid cloud deleted message

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wait..

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You have the answer don't you?

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In 3) I showed that 2R=a/sinA=b/sinB=c/sinC using the law of sines and some geometry in the triangle and its circumcircle
c is just sqrt(a^2+b^2-2abcosC)

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maybe I am misunderstanding the question?

pallid cloud
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Fishraider I'm not allowed to use the law of cosines