geometry-and-trigonometry

[rare agate]

oh my god im so dumb, its a compass

[exotic chasm]

but it's all written as "relative directions"

instead the usual compass numbers: 0° to 360°, starting from north, clockwise

[rare agate]

yea

[exotic chasm]

ngl i'm imagining myself using excel instead of a sci calc with this one

[rare agate]

i should have realized that sin and cos are quite literally projections (in this case), and c * sin(a) measures how much of c lies on the y axis and cos is just with the x axis, that makes this so much easier.

[grave pond]

Important lesson. Remember that.

[marsh marlin]

is bro training for war or smth

tf r those questions

[rare agate]

im reading a first exposure level linear algebra book, its just a weird question

[rare agate]

i do the checkmark ones

then after this book ill do the la done right one

[marsh marlin]

ts is too advanced for me

what grade math is ts

[rare agate]

idk im self study, supposed to be after high school, I will mention at the end of precalc you should learn vectors up to dot products imo

which I am just getting past that

this book is very good

[marsh marlin]

ah i see

what grade are you may i inquire

[rare agate]

im grade 11, but i self study calc, la rn, and how to prove it by daniel j velleman

[marsh marlin]

orz

self studying is good

u shud do math contest problems

they are more fun imo

[rare agate]

i kind of have to imo, my math teacher sucks at my school, I get high schools teach procedurally but my teacher doesn't teach understanding but formuals to memorize

[marsh marlin]

yeah those suck

[rare agate]

and I like math when I understand it, and im curious so I just kind of study it, I want to get to atleast an engineering level

[marsh marlin]

understanding the formulas is way more helpful

[rare agate]

because thats what ima major

[marsh marlin]

thats good

Engineering sounds fun

[marsh marlin]

good luck

are you in canada perchance

[rare agate]

im in usa, idk if I can do math contest problems though, I have understanding but I haven't had a whole lot of problems that require creativity

[marsh marlin]

can i give you one

[rare agate]

sure

[marsh marlin]

lets go dms

[opal dawn]

camn someone help

[fathom hedge]

5

Final answer

[opal dawn]

how do u get the x/3 = x+7/4

can someone help

[silent plank]

what's x supposed to represent

[marsh marlin]

uh

[opal dawn]

x is just a variable that i need to solve

its x and y btw not x and x

[marsh marlin]

ts looks like hieroglyphs

[opal dawn]

my bad

[silent plank]

yeh, but where is it in the diagram

[marsh marlin]

jk

[opal dawn]

where is what

[marsh marlin]

i was joking bru

[silent plank]

x

[opal dawn]

idk thats what im asking

[marsh marlin]

tf does x represent tho

[opal dawn]

is there a different way of solving for the side lengths

[marsh marlin]

buddy u wrote x

what does it rep

[opal dawn]

the length i need to figure out

[marsh marlin]

ah i see

[silent plank]

which length in the diagram are you trying to figure out

[opal dawn]

please help D:

[opal dawn]

the rad 48's

i did it already but want to know how to solve

my teacher did it in class

[marsh marlin]

you do the honours mr. Orz

[exotic chasm]

i think it's the outer tangent

[opal dawn]

My teacher said to make a rectangle and then use pythagoreas but does that always work?

Like 7 is the hypotenuse then use 49 = 1^2 + b^2

[exotic chasm]

for these kind of question yeah

[opal dawn]

ok tysm

is it ok if i can ask one more question?

Ok

give me one sec to find the image

actually two sorry

for the first one can i just solve distance like normal then times what i get by 3/2?

[exotic chasm]

or to be exact
$r_1+r_2= \sqrt{(r_1-r_2)^2 + t^2}$

[opal dawn]

fir the second one what does it mean by no change

[somber coyote]

tsuitachi (tuitati)

[exotic chasm]

yeah

[opal dawn]

how about the second

and can u give examples?

[opal dawn]

?

[exotic chasm]

i mean, you have 2 points namely A and B, with scale factor of 3/2

not sure what the actual question asked to find but i assumed distance because you asked distance

[opal dawn]

mhm

like i got 13.5

then times that

to get 20.125

for second can u help?

[sonic ermine]

can soeneo help me with trig

[marsh marlin]

what u need help avec

[sonic ermine]

its in the help forum

with like polar grapsh

[marsh marlin]

oh hell nah

Mr orz can help

[silent plank]

the x in that equation would represent that part
also those green and blue parts won't both be sqrt(48)

[sonic ermine]

can u ping hi mpls

[marsh marlin]

wut

[sonic ermine]

whos mr orz

[marsh marlin]

that mod guy

[silent plank]

why orz...

[marsh marlin]

yes this guy

[silent plank]

where'd you get that

[marsh marlin]

hes so smart

[sonic ermine]

help me ping him pls

idk his user

[silent plank]

why the heck are you trying to ping me specifically?

[sonic ermine]

ohh

hi

[exotic chasm]

the question is being...?

[sonic ermine]

help me wiht polar graphs pls

[silent plank]

#❓how-to-get-help

[marsh marlin]

because ur smart

[sonic ermine]

alr made a forum

no one responded

[silent plank]

wait patiently then

[marsh marlin]

buddy

this is your job

you signed up for ts no

[silent plank]

or make a help channel, forums don't get as much attention

[marsh marlin]

help this bro out

[silent plank]

helping is voluntary

i help who i want when i want

[sonic ermine]

how do i make a chanel

[marsh marlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gumball-discord-mod-2

[exotic chasm]

also just realized smth

only use this IFF the two circles touch each other!!

[silent plank]

#❓how-to-get-help
look under ✅ math help (Available)

for one without a name

and follow the instructions there

[sonic ermine]

i see

[opal dawn]

they are both sqrt. i got an answer key.

sqrt 48

ignore the formula i wrote

[silent plank]

answer key is wrong then
green is sqrt(48), blue is not

[opal dawn]

the question is the little text at the bottom right corner: what does it mean and what are some examples of lines that "never change" according to a and b?

[opal dawn]

It isn't wrong.

How?

[exotic chasm]

wait, so dilation? and find all the new points after dilation?

[opal dawn]

It's asking what lines are the same after dilation over the points A and B.

(a or b)

[exotic chasm]

yeah that one's a manual task i'm afraid

[opal dawn]

My teacher said it isn't

[exotic chasm]

well, then lines that unchanging are the ones

[opal dawn]

ones that connect with a or b?

[exotic chasm]

yeah

[opal dawn]

ok thank you.

umm i have one more question im sorry D:

is that fine or do u have to go

[exotic chasm]

yeah 1 more is ok ig

tho i'm not working the questions

as in, only giving what to use

[silent plank]

doing the calculations
the blue part would actually be 3times longer than the green

drawing a scaled graph,
those parts clearly have different lengths

[opal dawn]

The answer key isn't wrong...

How did you get that graph?

[silent plank]

i made it based on the values you've given

[opal dawn]

Thank you—just give me a sec.

[opal dawn]

I said ignore the equation I made though...

Ignore the 21 that comes from it.

[silent plank]

the 21 would give the part i marked in x,
but i didn't use it

regardless the brown part won't be sqrt(48)

[opal dawn]

What is the length of that long piece then?

[silent plank]

three times that

[opal dawn]

?

21

[silent plank]

3sqrt(48) or equivalent

[opal dawn]

21 is 3sqrt(48)

20.78

[silent plank]

20.78 is not 21

[opal dawn]

What equation did you use to get 3 sqrt(48)

[silent plank]

k/3 = (k+sqrt(48))/4

[opal dawn]

huh

[silent plank]

from similar triangles

[opal dawn]

can u use texit

[silent plank]

$\frac k3 = \frac{k +\sqrt{48}}{4}$

[somber coyote]

ραμOmeganato5

[opal dawn]

How did you get that

[grave pond]

Where is the problem statement here?

[silent plank]

from similar triangles, ratio of corresponding sides

[opal dawn]

Can you show me what you did?

What sides?

Where did you get k+48 from

[opal dawn]

????

It's rad 48...

[silent plank]

i wrote sqrt(48)...

[opal dawn]

I meant that.

[silent plank]

total length of the side of the biggest triangle

[opal dawn]

Can you show me?

[opal dawn]

Why did you put x at the bottom. I said ignore that equation...

K is rad 48 though.

[silent plank]

i wrote x, to make it clear what x would actually represent in that equation

[opal dawn]

You circled the equation though

[silent plank]

yes,

to make it clear that would give you the red x i marked

imagine a different varaible if you want

but that part will be 21

[opal dawn]

The teacher said it was rad 48.

My

[silent plank]

the green or the blue or both?

[opal dawn]

Both.

[silent plank]

well your teacher is wrong about the blue then

the green is sqrt(48) though

[stray isle]

wait can't you do k/3 = sqrt(48)/1

[silent plank]

yes, that works too

[stray isle]

and easier

[silent plank]

ty

[opal dawn]

It's rad 48 ;sob

😭

[silent plank]

teacher's can be wrong

[opal dawn]

why do u just use k though

[grave pond]

Clearly, (green+blue):blue = 4:3 by similar triangles, so blue must be three times green.

[silent plank]

random variable to represent an unknown quantity

x was already taken

[stray isle]

is x red

[silent plank]

and i like using the variable k
up to personal preference what you use

[opal dawn]

ok wait

my teacher said to make a rectangle then use pythagoreas for the small triangle which is the same as the rectangle side which is rad 48

[silent plank]

yes, and that gives you the green as sqrt(48)

what did your teacher say about the blue part?

[opal dawn]

he just said they are the same size

[hexed thistle]

why do i have a ping here

[opal dawn]

cuz like the middle is half of the big triangle

[silent plank]

with no reasoning/justification?

[hexed thistle]

did someone ping everyone or helpers

[opal dawn]

both are same

[silent plank]

its not the exact middle though

that hasn't been proven, and there's nothing indicating that

[stray isle]

no

[opal dawn]

bruh

😭

[hexed thistle]

oh

[silent plank]

it may look like it on the diagram you made (which isn't to scale) but its not

[opal dawn]

lol

[hexed thistle]

alr cya

[silent plank]

which as demonstrated when drawn to scale,
that part is much longer

and from calculations can be determined to be 3 times longer

[opal dawn]

can u make a similar question for me to solve

?

[stray isle]

then x is solvable

[opal dawn]

i still dont know what the correct answer is though

all of my classmates got rad 48 as well

[silent plank]

for both?

[opal dawn]

mhm

[silent plank]

or just the green

[opal dawn]

both

[silent plank]

because noone is disputing that green is sqrt(48)
or when simplified 4sqrt(3)

[opal dawn]

he said both

idk what to do

[stray isle]

wait what are we solving for

[opal dawn]

the side lengths

[stray isle]

of which

[opal dawn]

my teacher said it was radical 48 (no 3)

[opal dawn]

Are you still there

[silent plank]

wdym by radical 48 (no 3)

[opal dawn]

im so confuseddd

[opal dawn]

like no three in front

[silent plank]

...

[stray isle]

because k = 3sqrt(48) (k is green x3) we can do (3sqrt(48))^2 + 3^2 = x^2

[opal dawn]

my test is tmr and im panicking cuz idk who is right or how to solve

[silent plank]

that's exactly what i've been saying

that that part was 3sqrt(48)

and not sqrt(48)

[opal dawn]

texit?

plz helpD

D:

[silent plank]

so i've been saying that part is $3\sqrt{48}$ and now you're also saying that's what your teacher had?

[somber coyote]

ραμOmeganato5

[opal dawn]

my teacher had rad 48 by itself i said no 3

like not 3 rad 48

[silent plank]

i'm still not sure what you mean by you said no 3

[opal dawn]

no 3 means no 3 in front of 3 rad 48

just rad 48

[silent plank]

ok, then again, they're wrong

[opal dawn]

can i ask one more question?

[stray isle]

sure

[opal dawn]

ignor ethe bottom

[silent plank]

making a to scale diagram,
k/3 = sqrt(48)

[opal dawn]

I will say what the top says

[stray isle]

its kinda cut off

[opal dawn]

"Under which transformation would figure ABC be similar to DEF (x,y)

like abc pre-image def image

[silent plank]

will give k = 3sqrt(48)
i've also been ignoring that sqrt(48) can also be simplified
i recommend taking this up with your teacher

[opal dawn]

i cant

as soon as i go in i take the test

[stray isle]

you're using pythag so its better to leave it unsimplified

[silent plank]

doesn't matter what calculations were used to get it
radicals should be simplified where possible

is an implied requirement

unless stated otherwise

[opal dawn]

So what do I do????

[stray isle]

i mean like plugging in sqrt48 into pythag

[opal dawn]

Wait quick question

[stray isle]

so its easier to get 48

[opal dawn]

can i always make the little rectangle then use pythagoreas or is there a specific method i need to use for most of the time

like i did 49 = 1^2 + b^2

then got rad 48

but idk if it always works for that shape

please help

[silent plank]

it will,

[stray isle]

its a right triangle it does

[opal dawn]

like it always does?

i can just use that esaier method?

[silent plank]

given the tangent is to both circles
you'll have 2 right angles

[opal dawn]

so yes?

[silent plank]

yes

[opal dawn]

the rectangle i made is correct, right

[stray isle]

yes

[opal dawn]

?

[silent plank]

yes

[stray isle]

yes

[opal dawn]

ok

sorry for asking so much im just rlly nervous

[silent plank]

but don't assume those parts i mentioned will have equal length

that first part was fine

[opal dawn]

I will say the exact wording 1 sec

[stray isle]

don't assume any lengths or congruency (unless given)

[opal dawn]

"Under which transformation would the Image of ABC be ~ to DEF?"

[opal dawn]

he said it was so im so confused!

[stray isle]

is that it

[opal dawn]

just that one question im confused on

[stray isle]

he's wrong

[opal dawn]

this is all that it says

whoops

wrong reply

[opal dawn]

this

[silent plank]

if there's no justification/proof, be a little sceptical
we're showing you why its not the same

[opal dawn]

he said its the midpoint so idk

[silent plank]

yeh, with no proof

[opal dawn]

ill trust u

[opal dawn]

lol. god bless him but he cannot make good review guides for his life

do you guys know the answer for the word question tho?

[stray isle]

did he just say it or did he say it as a given

[opal dawn]

he wrote it but put 3 and 6 not 3 and 4

so i think he was wrong too

now

from a vertical perspective

[silent plank]

if the values were 3 and 6,
then it would actually be the midpoint

and they'll be the same lenght

[opal dawn]

can u help with the word problem

[stray isle]

i have no idea tbh

[opal dawn]

?

[stray isle]

he's talking about the measure of the radii

[marsh marlin]

ts been going on for so long

[opal dawn]

send help

[marsh marlin]

what help u need

[opal dawn]

the word problem

[opal dawn]

"Under which transformation would the Image of ABC be ~ to DEF?"

[marsh marlin]

wheres the image

can u send

I aint scrollin

[opal dawn]

I sent what u need

there isnt an image

he said something like (3x, 3y) not (3x, 2y) or something?

is it just dilation

[opal dawn]

here

[marsh marlin]

what??

[marsh marlin]

how tf am i supposed to know which transformation it is

[stray isle]

idk so on the test guess dilation its a 1/4 chance anyways

[opal dawn]

It's asking what transofmration makes it similar

like from preimage to image

not congruent

[marsh marlin]

r u sure theres no image

[opal dawn]

100000% sure

[marsh marlin]

whats the question

[opal dawn]

its just knowledge

[marsh marlin]

theres not enough info

[opal dawn]

"Under which transformation would the Image of ABC be ~ to DEF?"

[marsh marlin]

Gimme all details on the question

[opal dawn]

i think its dilation because it changes the size so thats the only one that is similar not congruent

[marsh marlin]

are we given point coordinates

[opal dawn]

its just knowledge though no images

[marsh marlin]

the fuck

your def not giving enough details

[grave pond]

That cannot be answered without some information about what A, B, C, D, E, and F even are.

[marsh marlin]

how tf am i supposed to know

[marsh marlin]

exactly

[opal dawn]

isnt it just knowledge based?

everything else is congruent so its not similar

(rotation, reflection translation)

[marsh marlin]

well u shud have said that earlier

[grave pond]

You seem to be leaving out most of the question.

[marsh marlin]

prob more details not said

[opal dawn]

thats the whole question

i cant magically spawn details

[marsh marlin]

whoever made that question should be fired

[opal dawn]

my teacher

[marsh marlin]

did he teach it during class

[grave pond]

No, there is no universal meaning of which points (?) the letters A, B, C, D, E, and F always stand for in math problems. That would be absurd.

[opal dawn]

yes

[marsh marlin]

yeah

[opal dawn]

he said dilation but im not sure if its just dilation

[marsh marlin]

ok u prob forgot some points

u forgot the details

if u remember the details tell us

[grave pond]

It is not a whole question.
If you have been given a partial question, that's too bad, but claiming its a whole question does not make it one.

[marsh marlin]

otherwise given the information now we cannot solve

[opal dawn]

that is the whole question though

its asking what transformation makes an image similar

[marsh marlin]

all

[grave pond]

But I think it is more likely that you actually have the details in front of you and have just somehow convinced yourself that the details are not part of the question when they actually are.

[opal dawn]

or it is the full question?

[grave pond]

No. It. Is. Not. A. Whole. Question.

[opal dawn]

it is!

[marsh marlin]

dude

Ts pmo

[opal dawn]

it is the full question

[marsh marlin]

r u even listening to mr orz points

[opal dawn]

u arguing about it isnt helping me solve it

[grave pond]

If you are so sure of that, and you know better than us what makes sense or not, then why are you asking questions at all?

[opal dawn]

For a second answer?

You are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

[marsh marlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/higuruma-oh-my-god-bruh

ts pure ragebait

[opal dawn]

Asking for an answer to a question isn't ragebait.

"Under which transformation would the Image of ABC be ~ to DEF?"

[grave pond]

You're refusing to show us the entire question, and you refuse to listen to us when we say there must be more information, and you refuse just to take a picture already of the entire piece of paper you have been given that contains the question.

[opal dawn]

THAT IS THE WHOLE QUESTION

[grave pond]

Not your own scratch work.

[opal dawn]

ITS THE TEACHERS REVIEW GUIDE THAT HE GAVE TO THE CLASS

I DIDNT MAKE IT MYSELF

[grave pond]

The paper with printed text on it that your teacher gave you*.

[opal dawn]

the printed text is from the teacher

the handwriting is the notes my teacher told us to take

the question is printed

[grave pond]

No matter if you made the problem sheet yourself or not, you need to show it to us.

[opal dawn]

I DID

I CANT SPAWN STUFF OUT OF NOWHERE

THAT IS THE MATERIAL I GOT

[marsh marlin]

trop

F this

i dont wanna beg some random online for details to their y problem

[grave pond]

The only picture you have shown is handwritten scratch work.,

[opal dawn]

the handwritten work is the printed work my teacher gave to us

you can see the different handwriting

if u dont believe me then dont waste my time arguing with me about what my teacher gave to us or any details

[grave pond]

There is no printed text in the photo you have shown.

[marsh marlin]

it says 3x, 3y ans 3x, 2y points

[opal dawn]

the handwriting IS the printed text

[marsh marlin]

explain those

[opal dawn]

that is my notes

[marsh marlin]

nova give us the full details dummy

[grave pond]

Show is the actual printed text, not just your hand-written copy of it.

[opal dawn]

IT IS PRINTED

[marsh marlin]

r u stupid

[opal dawn]

are you?

[grave pond]

You may be looking at a printed copy, but the photo you're showing us does not contain anything in print.

Hell.

[opal dawn]

the handwritten work is the printed.

stop accusing me.

[grave pond]

Do you even know what the word "printed" means?

[marsh marlin]

which printer has shitty print that looks like handwriting

[opal dawn]

IT IS PRINTED

[marsh marlin]

prob not

[potent hollow]

do you have another copy of the question?

[opal dawn]

i have 2 papers of the same thing

same text

[marsh marlin]

this is the most overconfident dummy ive ever met

[potent hollow]

rip

[opal dawn]

ur the dummy. im saying its printed and u dont believe me

[potent hollow]

do you know where the question came from?

[opal dawn]

my teacher wrote them then printed it out for us.

[marsh marlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/muerto-3

[grave pond]

My thesis is that if you were to actually show us the original printed text, there would be some part of it that you thought were not part of the question, and which you therefore did not copy to the handwritten sheet that you keep showing us instead of the actual problem sheet.

[silent plank]

They want you to show the what the teacher gave you.

[opal dawn]

im going to explode

STOP ACCUSING ME

THE PAPER IS PRINTED

[marsh marlin]

we aint accusing shit

[opal dawn]

THE HANDWRITTEN TEXT IS PRINTED

[marsh marlin]

dude

[grave pond]

It is clearly hand-written.

[potent hollow]

can you show us what your teacher wrote

[silent plank]

and not what you copied.

[marsh marlin]

so u just admitted its hand written

[opal dawn]

thats what i just said

[marsh marlin]

and not printed

[grave pond]

It is on graph paper.

It is not typeset or typed.

[marsh marlin]

so then its NOT PRINTED

[opal dawn]

THE HANDWRITTEN TEXT IS MY NOTES (THE BIG HANDWRITING) AND MY TEACHERS NOTES HE PRINTED!

HE WROTE IT, THEN PRINTED THE COPPIES WITH THE HANDWRITING

[marsh marlin]

search what print means first

holy spedhead

[silent plank]

They want you to show the what the teacher gave you.
not your handwritten notes

[opal dawn]

the handwritten notes is literally printed

[marsh marlin]

if thats all the teacher gave then its unsolvable

[opal dawn]

thats what ive been saying from the start

stop arguing with me over lying about printed or not printed

just help me with the damn question

[grave pond]

Handwriting and printing are DIFFERENT THINGS.

[opal dawn]

god

[marsh marlin]

Not enouh details to solve

[silent plank]

these are what you've handwritten
what did the teacher give you?

[marsh marlin]

give all details

[opal dawn]

he wrote notes on the papeer for us, then DID THE FUCKING PRINTING

[grave pond]

We cannot help you with the damn question when you keep refusing to SHOW US A PHOTO OF IT.

[opal dawn]

WITH THE HANDWRITING

[marsh marlin]

ok i think i get what she means

[opal dawn]

THE WORD IS THE ONLY THING I GOT

[marsh marlin]

she says the teacher wrote on a piece of paper

and duplicated it with printer

[opal dawn]

he but whatever im not wasting any more time

[marsh marlin]

ahhh see

but still

not enough details

so its unsolvable

[opal dawn]

here

[marsh marlin]

i was referring to you

absolute buffoon

[opal dawn]

ok ill move on to a different question since this is fucking unsolvable apparently

god help me

[potent hollow]

not enough info to solve

[opal dawn]

enough

stop with the insults

[grave pond]

It is fundamentally unbelievable that your teacher would write problems as indistinct pencil scribbles on graph paper instead of photocopying a problem set.

[marsh marlin]

lol

[opal dawn]

well he did. so stop arguing with me bruh

[marsh marlin]

ok

since your so smart and were all wrong

go figure it out yourself

[opal dawn]

no ones smart ur just accusing me of lying

[marsh marlin]

and dont ask for help you ungrateful brat

[opal dawn]

im asking for your help, and you say i wrote the things myself

[silent plank]

not helping, if you're just going to sling insults, leave

[marsh marlin]

yes ma am

[opal dawn]

THANK YOU

she has been insulting me and accusing me of lying and shit for no reason

[marsh marlin]

Ok ill be civilized

[potent hollow]

can we move onto the next question

[grave pond]

It is possible that you copied it by hand from something your teacher wrote, but the photo you keep showing is HAND-WRITTEN, not printed letters.

[marsh marlin]

Are you sure there are no details you forgot to tell us?

[marsh marlin]

doesnt matter tbh

[opal dawn]

im not answering you because you are so fucking stubborn about this

end of story

[marsh marlin]

oh

wow

[opal dawn]

stop saying it isnt printe

[marsh marlin]

Nova

[opal dawn]

i will get the other question

give me a moment

[marsh marlin]

ur question is missing a few details

cuz its unsolvable

got it?

[silent plank]

Just move on to the next one. This isn't getting anywhere. No point continuing to argue.

[grave pond]

You're the one being stubborn by insisting that a photo of handwiring actually depicts printed text. Those are DIFFERENT THINGS. We can see on the image that what it contains is hand-written in pencil, not printed text. Claiming that is is printed makes you the liar.,

Sigh. I bet we're not going to get to see the next one either.

[opal dawn]

stop calling me a liar. i told the truth and you are too ignorant to listen

here

the bottom is printed the top is my handwriting

which i took notes of

[grave pond]

Another picture of handwriting.

[opal dawn]

the bottom is printed

top is not

[marsh marlin]

dude

[opal dawn]

cope with it

[grave pond]

There's nothing printed in that photo.

[marsh marlin]

wtf is the question

where

[grave pond]

Strictly speaking I suppose the graph grid is printed.

[potent hollow]

do you have any coordinates?

[marsh marlin]

she doesnt listen to anyones points

[opal dawn]

@silent plank

[potent hollow]

?

[opal dawn]

whatever i took a picture of is all i have

dont ask me to magically make coordinates appear

[potent hollow]

;-;

[marsh marlin]

bro

[opal dawn]

thats all my teacher printed for us

[marsh marlin]

ggs

[potent hollow]

well i cant do this problem without coordinates

[grave pond]

YOu're not showing what your teacher printed for you.

[opal dawn]

you can literally see the diffeerent colors in the pencil

its literally printed

[grave pond]

Are you somehow afraid of some copyright stuff if you show us the problem sheet you got??

[marsh marlin]

nova if theres no coordinates then its unsolvable

got it?

[vocal sentinel]

I told him yesterday and he didn't listen in the forums

[opal dawn]

the bigger handwriting is my notes

[vocal sentinel]

Maybe troll atp

[marsh marlin]

ok ill solve

so

we know all the points

[grave pond]

There's nothing BUT handwriting in those pictures.

[opal dawn]

im not a troll. can u guys just be supportive and help instead of drag me down for no reason

[marsh marlin]

so first we coordbash ok?

[opal dawn]

enough with the handwriting

omg

[marsh marlin]

nova yk coordbashkng

coordbashing?

yeah bash the points

[vocal sentinel]

The problem is we don't see the questions

[marsh marlin]

because we clearly see each of the points

[grave pond]

Your refusal to show the actual problems as they were given to you is not "no reason".

[marsh marlin]

after bashing them

[vocal sentinel]

Only your handwriting, no clues for what we must solve

[opal dawn]

he printed print questions for us just the notes. the notes bascially are the questions

[marsh marlin]

we can chuck it in the quantum supercomputer in your school

[vocal sentinel]

there is no printed question!!

[grave pond]

Yes, please enough with the handwriting and show the typeset problem statement instead.

[opal dawn]

he wrote the question by hand, then printed those handwritten papers to us.

is that clear?

[marsh marlin]

yes

nova

im trying to help

[vocal sentinel]

i dont see the questions in those handwritings

[opal dawn]

ok please help.

[marsh marlin]

so do you see the points?

like theres all the points clearly there right

[opal dawn]

the question is basically which lines stay the same even with dilation from points a or b

[vocal sentinel]

only says dilation conditions

[stray isle]

atp use ai

[vocal sentinel]

now we are talking

[vocal sentinel]

!noai

[lime crown]

Please do not trust ChatGPT or similar AI tools for mathematical tasks, as they often generate output which "sounds correct" but has numerous factual or logical errors. Use of these AI tools to answer other people's help questions is strictly against server rules (see #rules).

[opal dawn]

AL cant see images well.

[marsh marlin]

finally

something useful

[opal dawn]

and i prefer actual human help

[opal dawn]

Ok so what is the answer do u think

[marsh marlin]

humans dont like being dissed

[stray isle]

maybe ask your teacher

[marsh marlin]

tell us the full question

[opal dawn]

you were dissing me for 20 minutes

dont even start

[marsh marlin]

expand on ts

[opal dawn]

"not handwritten. idiot"

or handwritten whatever

[marsh marlin]

i wonder why

[vocal sentinel]

yes thats what you are doing

[opal dawn]

enough. we are not going back to this

help me with the question plz?

[vocal sentinel]

who is "we", you are the one asking for help

[grave pond]

And yet, you insist on only showing us handwritten scratchwork when we keep asking to see the problem.

[marsh marlin]

Yeah

[vocal sentinel]

we dont have to help if you doing random stuffs

[marsh marlin]

We arent your slaves

[grave pond]

Wouldn't it be easier just to show the damn problems already?

[opal dawn]

the handwritten scratchwork is all my teacher gave us

[grave pond]

No. It.Is Not.

[marsh marlin]

ok fr tho stop ragebaiting

[vocal sentinel]

@grave pond

[opal dawn]

how would u know that

[marsh marlin]

its gettin annoying

[opal dawn]

u dont have my teacher

[vocal sentinel]

Alright we don't have to help you bro.

[opal dawn]

stop acting like a know-it-all

abt a teacher u dont have

[vocal sentinel]

Stubborn ass.

[marsh marlin]

FAHHHHHHHHHH

AINT NO WAY

WE

ARE THE KNOW IT ALLS

[grave pond]

And how does he know that?

[marsh marlin]

Ahem

[opal dawn]

i meant know it all as in he didnt print the papers with the handwriting

[silent plank]

Everyone calm the F down

[vocal sentinel]

No Idea, that's why he is asking

[opal dawn]

STOP ATTACKING ME BRUH

[marsh marlin]

yes guys calm down discord mod is here

[grave pond]

He claims that his teacher didn't give him anything where that is written, so why would he even know what the problem is?

[marsh marlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lebron-james-147

[silent plank]

not helping, you're part of the problem.

[potent hollow]

ok probably start by labelling the lines just so you can answer properly

[marsh marlin]

ok mod

[marsh marlin]

yessir

this is the way

[vocal sentinel]

Alright, Nova either give us the real question or we won't help anyways.

[marsh marlin]

yes

[grave pond]

How do you know what the question is?

[opal dawn]

im asking nicely then they accuse me of lying about the handwritting not being printed, me not showing the full paper, and other

[stray isle]

are you ban speedrunning

[silent plank]

Lets move past whether stuff is printed/handwritten

[vocal sentinel]

You are the one asking for help, then you must collaborate

[marsh marlin]

no

maybe

[marsh marlin]

yes

[grave pond]

Well, we cannot really move past whether we get to see the problem statement or not.

[marsh marlin]

nova last chance give us full details on the problem or we done

[opal dawn]

just bc its handwritten doesnt mean it wasnt handwritten before it was printed

use logic bruh

[silent plank]

It seems that there is insufficient info and/or the problems are poorly phrased/constructed

[marsh marlin]

What do we gain from arguing abt ts

[opal dawn]

I said thats all i got but they accuse me of hiding details which is pointless for me

[marsh marlin]

just give the full problem

[silent plank]

If the problem doesn't seem doable, move onto the next one

[marsh marlin]

wise mod

[silent plank]

Its probably not your fault, but the teacher's

[marsh marlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rodin-yoyo

[stray isle]

fair

[silent plank]

So everyone stop these attacks.

[opal dawn]

:)

[stray isle]

fr

[grave pond]

Again, where do you know this from?
You have not shown us anywhere that explanation is written down.

[opal dawn]

BRO STOP

[stray isle]

is it that hard to

holy fucking shit read the room

[opal dawn]

IM NOT ANSWERING YOU FOR THE FIFTIETH TIME

[marsh marlin]

dude is ts considered an attack

tf is an attack

[opal dawn]

u literally said fuck you

[potent hollow]

can we get back to the maths ;-;

[marsh marlin]

oh

yeah

[grave pond]

It would be so much easier just to show us, instead of wasting so much time loudly refusing to show us.

[opal dawn]

here is what i was given

[marsh marlin]

lets pretend that didnt happen

[marsh marlin]

its not enough details

[potent hollow]

your teacher wrote this?

[opal dawn]

yes!

[marsh marlin]

nova

[opal dawn]

i wrote some notes but mostly his

[marsh marlin]

hm

[opal dawn]

this is his

[grave pond]

IF that was all you were given, then how do you know "the question is basically which lines stay the same even with dilation from points a or b"?

[opal dawn]

bc he explained it in class

[marsh marlin]

ok tell js everything abt what he explained in class

tell us how he explained the problem during class

[opal dawn]

if i did you would say im lying

[marsh marlin]

that would help a lot

[opal dawn]

im done

im done getting attacked for fucking handwriting

bye!

[marsh marlin]

Yeah ts hopeless

Peace

[grave pond]

You're being attacked for refusing to show us a problem statement and somehow demanding help anyway.

[stray isle]

and pointless

[vocal sentinel]

Good job

[marsh marlin]

fr

she dont listen to noones points

so teaching her would be even harder

[grave pond]

Why do you keep calling him "she", by the way?

[marsh marlin]

oh

i dont read pronouns

i need to remember to do that

[marsh marlin]

wait is ts bannable

sorry nova i thouht u were a she

[stray isle]

if by mistake then probably not

[marsh marlin]

how tf do i check pronouns

how did you know its a he

[potent hollow]

gamble it

[stray isle]

click on their profile pick

[potent hollow]

it says on his profile

[marsh marlin]

oh ok

ahhh i click on their name

ok thanks

[marsh marlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jjk-hikari

[winged oyster]

Ig bro

[stray isle]

fr

it's lowk dead silent

[slim plinth]

How would i do 6

[exotic chasm]

draw the diagram

and use tan(θ)=y/x

duplicate the formula with other numbers except the y, then find y that way

[slim plinth]

Would it be two triangles

Like one is like a rt

And one is slant

[exotic chasm]

there are 2 triangles

[slim plinth]

Sharing one tall monument

[stray isle]

yeah

[slim plinth]

The rt triangle is 34 degrees

[stray isle]

set up two tan(x/y)

[slim plinth]

Okay

[stray isle]

both are right

[slim plinth]

Like this

[stray isle]

yes

[slim plinth]

x on the adjacent side

[stray isle]

y on the monument (opposite)

[slim plinth]

And the total will be 100 + x

[exotic chasm]

not tan(x/y)
tan(θ) = y/x

[slim plinth]

That’s cot

[stray isle]

right

so you can set up two equations with tan

to make a system

[slim plinth]

I get 100+x

Or x + 100

Is the 34 degrees the x and 22 degrees is the 100

[stray isle]

34 degrees is adjacent to x

22 degrees is adjacent to x + 100

[slim plinth]

The total is x + 100

Or x(x+100)

[exotic chasm]

tan(θ)=sin(θ)/cos(θ)
tan(θ)=(y/r) / (x/r)
tan(θ) = (y/r) × (r/x)
tan(θ)=y/x

[exotic chasm]

cot is the x/y one

[slim plinth]

Okay

[slim plinth]

^

[stray isle]

wait

the entire length is x + 100 not 100 + x + x

[exotic chasm]

repair the drawing of 100+x since ppl later will think 100+x is only the appendage

[slim plinth]

Is it tan 34 degrees = y/x

[stray isle]

that's good

[slim plinth]

Then tan 22 =y/(100+x)

We isolate the y

[stray isle]

y = tan22(x + 100)

and then tan34 = y/x

then substitute

[slim plinth]

x tan 34=y

[stray isle]

so xtan34 = tan22(x+100)

[slim plinth]

Would we just distribute

tan 22 to the x and 100

[stray isle]

find the value of tan22 first

then distribute

[slim plinth]

I got 0.40402622

[stray isle]

i got that too

[slim plinth]

Or can i make it tan 22 x + tan 22*100

[stray isle]

yeah

so xtan34 = 0.4x + 40

[slim plinth]

Which is tan 22 x + 40

[stray isle]

yea

and then find tan34

[slim plinth]

0.67

Or 0.7

[stray isle]

0.7x = 0.4x + 40

0.3x = 40

[slim plinth]

133.33

Ft

Or 133 ft

[stray isle]

133.33 for x

but y is the height

so plug x into tan34 (or 0.7) = y/x

[slim plinth]

133.33 * tan 34

[stray isle]

so y = 90

rounded up

[slim plinth]

89.93 or 90

[stray isle]

yeah

[slim plinth]

The shadow part is 233 ft

100 + 133

[stray isle]

it says to the nearest integer so it would be 90

[slim plinth]

Okay then 90 feet of the monument

Or “The George Washington monument is 90 feet”

[stray isle]

yep

[slim plinth]

Is that too short

Bc that actually is 555.5 feet

[stray isle]

yeah but for the problem

well idk why the washington monument is used

[slim plinth]

Will i see this in bearings for trig

[stray isle]

this is just simple angle addition

probably not

[exotic chasm]

for trig, prepare the worst case trig scenarios like identities that is hard to memorize

and niche special cases like the ones that involves multiple of 20° angles (EXCEPT THE EASIER SIXTY DEGREES), regular pentagon/heptagon angles, etc

oh, also adv trig that uses 3d objects, though, worst you can get is a pyramid

[tiny acorn]

Trivial

? = 105° if my mental arithmetic doesnt fail me

[exotic chasm]

correct

[slim plinth]

It’s Supp

So 180-125

[gusty light]

then 55 + 50

[slim plinth]

Oh

[royal escarp]

guys pls tell me how to pass math🙏🏻

[silent plank]

Practice, study

[royal escarp]

guys can all of you guys pray for me so i can pass math exam

mathematics is my killer subject

[alpine garnet]

yes i will

give me 10$

[boreal mica]

Was it worth it? Memorizing all of unit circle and sin cos and tan and its reciprocals?

Cuz i did—please tell me it's worth it...

[strange pond]

it's just 4321 1234 + ASTC 🥀

[boreal mica]

Yea no shit...

It only took me 20 mins to memorize all, but i was asking that was it really worth it?

[grave pond]

How would an answer to that question inform your future decisions?

[slim plinth]

Need help

[silent plank]

try drawing a diagram

[trim stump]

This is pretty much vertical rise

= 100ft x sin 70

[trim stump]

Oh and +8 because it's elevated

[slim plinth]

Is it a triangle and a rectangle

[trim stump]

It's just a triangle

Wait letme draw it

[slim plinth]

It’s like the shortest tower and the highest

[slim plinth]

I got 93.969 ft.

[slim plinth]

That’s what I had

[trim stump]

Then add the 8 feet because it was elevated

[slim plinth]

Then it’s “ 101.969 ft is the highest above the ground that can reach”

[trim stump]

Yup

The "above the ground" height was included so the 8 feet was necessary

[slim plinth]

This with 6

[trim stump]

I forgot how to these

[slim plinth]

Ok

[worthy pawn]

can any1 teach me trignometry from basics

. . . . .

[grave pond]

That's a lot to expect from an online chat. Have you tried locating a textbook and working through the relevant sections?

[worthy pawn]

idk..i though ppl help hear so i joined..

[slim plinth]

The diagrams would be rt triangle and one slant i think

[trim stump]

Wait I get this now

Do u still need help

Let me just write it I'm bad at explaining with texts

@slim plinth Ask/Tell me if there's something here u don't understand

[slim plinth]

Yes

[marsh marlin]

woah

[queen juniper]

finally the channel is on topic

[marsh marlin]

oh hi plens

[queen juniper]

nvm

[marsh marlin]

Anyways moving on

Fun geo problem

[queen juniper]

coordbash

every time

[marsh marlin]

theres simple trick

not trick

[queen juniper]

hmmm

[marsh marlin]

these geo problems are my strengths

i just see a simple trick every time

Not rlly trick

Yk what im being misleading

just solve

[queen juniper]

i see coordbash

[marsh marlin]

bash it then

[queen juniper]

okie

[cosmic plaza]

patrick

what

[queen juniper]

wut

[marsh marlin]

oh yeah

[queen juniper]

and stop leaking my name rina 💔

to what exactly

[lunar hull]

please keep things on topic

[marsh marlin]

ok ill stop fr

plens any idea how to solve?

[cosmic plaza]

i am sorry

💔💔

i mean plans

[marsh marlin]

I know ur name

[queen juniper]

set up coord system

u can find the radius

and so u can find intersections, and then area

i'm not gonna do it bc i have egmo to read

[marsh marlin]

ok cya

[marsh marlin]

but btw u can find without coords

[queen juniper]

uhhhh

lemme think

[marsh marlin]

no

do ur egmo

its more fun

[thorny venture]

What’s the uh

Trick

[left mist]

guys i have 2 math exams tmrw😭

I mean i did study the lessons that are coming but like i just took them 2 days ago idk if i can do this

I did study though and i did solve a lot

I just dont know if i can memerize the formulas

[slim plinth]

Is this correct

[exotic yarrow]

,w 500tan(23 deg)+500tan(50 deg)

[somber coyote]

Results provided by WolframAlpha

Click here to refine your query online
Upgrade to WolframAlpha Pro!

Requested by civil_service_pigeon

[exotic yarrow]

To the nearest foot, yes.

[marsh marlin]

find radius

like i said, not rlly a trick

[exotic chasm]

are Rounded Rectangles' insignificance in mathematics is due to its nonspecial, yet too straightforward equations?

[trim stump]

IMSO NEAR IN SOLVING THIS ARGGGG
AP= 10√5-20 and the radius is 10√5

[trim stump]

@marsh marlin ITS 61

[trim stump]

ITS 61 AAAAAA

[cinder spear]

Yeah, it’s 61. What I got too

Or maybe we’re both wrong 😭

[trim stump]

Let's js wait for the result

[sharp pewter]

helo

[trim stump]

Elo

[sharp pewter]

how are you

[trim stump]

I don't think it's valid to have conversations here that's not connected to trigo or geoms

[sharp pewter]

yes

you are right

[ripe aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/jaden-smith-jaden-smith-political-economical-gif-26153980

[winged oyster]

67

[cerulean cipher]

How do u find measure of RZV? Im sure its arccos of 45/53

[winged oyster]

yeah

[alpine garnet]

is it a MJP a right angle

[dim aurora]

Can someone help me solve for n and m

[trim stump]

I don't think it's a right angle, JZ is 28 and JM is 90
arccosine 28/90 is 71°

[trim stump]

I think m= 50

[vocal sentinel]

top right angle total ís 180 degreee

you have angle x + 75 =180, since this is a parallelogram, then the opposite angle = this angle x

[trim stump]

75+55+m= 180
m=180-130? Correct me if I'm wrong

[vivid igloo]

m = 50

[dim aurora]

Why is 75+55=180

[trim stump]

I'm wrong

[vivid igloo]

it is 50 right?

[trim stump]

No I think not

Idk if exterior of 55 and m is = to 75

[vivid igloo]

since the sides are parallel we can apply the alternate interior angle

[trim stump]

I think this only applies to certain gons

[vivid igloo]

label them, itll be easier to explain

[dim aurora]

I did apply alternating angles

[trim stump]

Ahh noo
It's 2 parallel lines
opposite sides are parallel = alternate interior angles are equal so m= 30

[vocal sentinel]

Nah that's wrong

[trim stump]

Did I just contradict myself

[vivid igloo]

alternate of 55 + 75 = 130
180 - 130 = 50 which is the angle on the top right of the upper triangle

alternate of 30 is top left angle of top triangle

sum of interior angles in traingle = 180
50 + 30 + n = 180
n = 100

now opposite angles are equal in intersecting lines,
the bottom triangle makes m + n + 30 = 180
m = 50

[trim stump]

Wait no it is 50
55+50= 105
180-75=105