#geometry-and-trigonometry

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spare hull
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ok i donto have the capacity to comprehend what you just said here

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idk i give up

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tell me

sinful cradle
sinful cradle
spare hull
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i will track you down

languid cedar
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Whoa

spare hull
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im kiddin

languid cedar
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Kills you

sinful cradle
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But I’m not telling u what it is either wya

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Way*

sinful cradle
spare hull
sinful cradle
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When you were guessing individually

spare hull
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ok so texas

sinful cradle
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No

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I’ll keep saying no to everything

spare hull
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i mean out of the states i named texas is most in the center in the east wets way and you said saying wether its north south would give it away

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and lot of indians go there

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so im pretty sure texas

sinful cradle
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I don’t know 🤷‍♀️ 😭 its not Texas tho

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There’s no Indians that live there

ancient edge
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I think you guys mixed geometry with geography

spare hull
sinful cradle
spare hull
sinful cradle
spare hull
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then its 100%texas

sinful cradle
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What’s Texas

spare hull
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its a song

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by beyonce

sinful cradle
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I’m pretty sure it’s an actress

sinful cradle
spare hull
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occasionally ig

sinful cradle
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Wait acc

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😭

spare hull
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idk bro i dont remmember the songs it just playes in the car sometimes

sinful cradle
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Ohhhh okok I was surprised for a sec cause I’ve never seen a guy listen to Beyoncé 😭 mostly all the Indian guys here listen to rap or smth idk

spare hull
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i like rap too

sinful cradle
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Who’s your favorite artist?

spare hull
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im not affiliated with one type of music

spare hull
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emeineineme

sinful cradle
spare hull
sinful cradle
# spare hull m&m

Ohh okok that’s nice I’ve heard of him but I don’t listen to rap that much lol

spare hull
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then what doyulisten to

sinful cradle
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Like sometimes rnb, pop, and like Bollywood but like not the energetic type of music like the more calmer ones I don’t know what that’s called

spare hull
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nicenice

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arijit singh and shi

sinful cradle
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Yeah yeahh I’ve heard of him I’ve def listened to a song by him but I lowk forgot

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Wbu what type of music do you like ?

spare hull
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i like everything like literally everything

sinful cradle
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Like anything

spare hull
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yes

sinful cradle
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Like would you listen to Sabrina carpenter

spare hull
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literallyanything ill listen to it

sinful cradle
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Or metal

spare hull
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yes i would

sinful cradle
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Do you even know who she is

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😭

spare hull
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yes

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espresso

sinful cradle
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okok would u listen to like kpop

spare hull
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uhh

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i mean

sinful cradle
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Eggactlyyyy

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I bet you hate bts

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Lit every single guy who lives in India hate them

spare hull
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hate is a strong word

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nahnah

sinful cradle
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But every single girl who lives in India loves them

spare hull
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i dont hate bts

sinful cradle
spare hull
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yeah i just dont like their fans in india who are compeletely obsessed with them

spare hull
sinful cradle
spare hull
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yeah lol

sinful cradle
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Or dislike

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In your terms

spare hull
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ok i get lotta hate for this but

sinful cradle
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But

spare hull
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kendrick

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lama

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r

sinful cradle
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Ohhhh him? I’ve never listened to him so I’m not sure if that’s valid or not

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Does he have controversy?

spare hull
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i think he just sounds like a frog

spare hull
sinful cradle
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I’ll listen to him and see if ur right

sinful cradle
spare hull
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ok yourFriend is about to blast me rn

worthy folio
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I'll call your moms. You two are chit chatting for over an hour now 💀

sinful cradle
sinful cradle
spare hull
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its just boring

sinful cradle
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Unless they did something rlly rlly bad

spare hull
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hmm

sinful cradle
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What’s there to hmm abt

spare hull
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its an acknowledgment

sinful cradle
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Then just say okay

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Hmm is a thinking expression

spare hull
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hmm

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i am thinking

sinful cradle
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About what

spare hull
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about the fact i have an english exm tommorow and i should start studying

whole flame
spare hull
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ok i gtg now anyway

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bb

sinful cradle
sinful cradle
trail tendon
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<@&268886789983436800>

manic oracle
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i got geometry in algebra

ripe pine
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Not that i need it but can yall refresh me on some theorems or properties or whatever of circles

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Like 10th grade geometry stuff yk.

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I forgor

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Im aware i could look this up. I dont want to do that i want to ask real people

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I love. Circle ○

honest dock
ripe pine
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YES THANK YOU

honest dock
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lol np cathandshake

ruby sparrow
regal kraken
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been stuck on this for a while now🥀

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would appreciate some help

worthy folio
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Can we just approximate $1 < \lambda < 2$ ?

somber coyoteBOT
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yourFriend

worthy folio
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Please ignore whatever I have done above.
For solution refer: #precalculus message

Also @ruby sparrow please don't post same question in every channel lol

ruby sparrow
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Actually it's by induction and

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It's wierd

ruby sparrow
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Also I'm not understanding that solution

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I had asked them to explain but they didn't

worthy folio
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Probably offline. Also not my cup of tea.

ruby sparrow
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Ok 👌

rigid sluice
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Any ideas how to solve this ?

civic rock
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,rotate

somber coyoteBOT
civic rock
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what parts are you having troubles with?

rigid sluice
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The whole thing 🙂‍↕️

worthy folio
rigid sluice
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They are equal in length

worthy folio
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Yes, now look at triangle ABC

rigid sluice
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Then what ?

worthy folio
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What is an isosceles triangle?

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Part (a) want you to prove ABC is isosceles

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You already know the answer

rigid sluice
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Nooo the part b

worthy folio
rigid sluice
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All of them

worthy folio
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Wait sorry. All you need is property of isosceles triangle. Think what else is same in isosceles triangle other than 2 equal sides.

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And what is the sum of all angles of a triangle.

rigid sluice
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Got the answer

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Ty

limber atlas
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Any ideas how to solve this? please.

limber atlas
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5cm and 3 cm

worthy folio
limber atlas
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Ok

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A glass shaped like an equilateral cylinder is shown on a table. If the glass is tilted and is about to spill, calculate the measure of the angle formed between the generatrix and the table at the moment it is tilted.”

worthy folio
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!help

lime crownBOT
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To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

midnight current
limber atlas
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Yea

midnight current
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I can help

limber atlas
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Please

midnight current
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Can you send a clear picture?

limber atlas
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Ok

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5cm and 3cm

midnight current
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Water right?

limber atlas
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Yea?

midnight current
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The answer comes to be 30

limber atlas
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HowM

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?

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Please

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Can u explain that to me?

brisk timber
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Hlo ppl

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I have a q for u all

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@everyone

tender arch
hoary rock
dire ridge
lime crownBOT
# dire ridge
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
austere kettle
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In the adjacent figure, the triangle ABC is
isosceles with AB = AC. The point D belongs to
side AC so that the triangle BCD is
isosceles with BC = BD. The point Z belongs to
the line BC, so that the line AZ is perpendicular
to the line BD at point E.
It is also given that: BAD = ABD.
(a) Calculate the angles of triangle ABC.
(b) Prove that: BAC = 2 ∙ DAE.
(c) Prove that: AC = BZ.

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Need some solutions

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Thanks you.

wispy summit
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what are cosine, tangent, and sine, and how does it relate to the triangle??

austere kettle
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Wdym

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Ur saying this not for here?

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I was redirected to here

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It’s not that advanced of a problem tho..

lime crownBOT
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Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.

fierce cipher
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90-=ijnu

sour hearth
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This what I got for this is it correct?

solid siren
sour hearth
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My math grade

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is going downhill

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I might just become homeless

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and give up on my dreams

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of giving uni

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I will end up at mcdonalds doing a 9-5

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with this math grade I will never achieve my goals

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all I can do is watch it go down

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when my sons asks me "Dad can you buy me food" I will give him bread and show him my wallet while a fly is coming out of it with no more than 10 cent inside

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and this will all be because of math

sinful cradle
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Like

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Yk

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idk

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Like it’ll motivate u to learn math

sour hearth
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Yes, I need 1 person to actually help me 😭 I need someone to double check my work before I submit because bro I can’t do this.

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I keep getting 60% or 70%

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Never more

sinful cradle
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😭

sinful cradle
sour hearth
sinful cradle
sour hearth
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Honestly not sure that’s why I asked here

sinful cradle
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Is it for a grade?

sinful cradle
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and didn’t somebody already say it looked right

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So just turn it in when it’s due

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If u did it right

sour hearth
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Yes it’s not about the answer being right

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that’s like 1/4

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The steps matter more

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Than the answer

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My teacher couldn’t careless about the answer being right

sinful cradle
sour hearth
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Is this right?

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Lmk if I missed anything

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<@&286206848099549185>

upper karma
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I need help on the basics of trig

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Luke doh cah toa

coral light
sour hearth
coral light
# sour hearth Is this right?
  1. i think you should also check for which values the RHS isn't defined
  2. if you want you can write the conditions more cleanly as x ≠ π/2 + kπ
  3. your teacher seems pretty strict so i'd recommend explicitly stating that 1-sin^2x=cos^2x
coral light
sour hearth
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he takes marks off for even forgetting

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a single thing

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even if I misspell a word

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he takes marks and counts it as all wrong

coral light
coral light
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but other than that it looks good

sour hearth
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Alr ill just replace my final answer with x ≠ π/2 + kπ

coral light
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wdym

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i meant that you could replace the "x ≠ π/2 + 2kπ and x ≠ 3π/2 + 2kπ" with "x ≠ π/2 + kπ"

sour hearth
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OHHH

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are you on question 1 or 2

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im confused

coral light
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2

sour hearth
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OKay

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i was looking at 1

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was thinking wtf r u talking about

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😭

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that make sense

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Okay Im getting completely different answers from you and somoene else

coral light
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what did they say

sour hearth
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they said my final answer can be replaced with

coral light
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i don't know what they mean by "final answer" because it's a proof, but that is indeed true

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or actually not exactly

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they probably meant x ≠ π/2 + kπ instead of x ≠ kπ

sour hearth
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I erased this

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and put that

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YOO IM SO LOST

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WTF IS GOING ON

coral light
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it looks like they want you to put "LHS=RHS" or QED

sour hearth
coral light
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yeah

coral light
sour hearth
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100th time erasing my answer

coral light
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because the identity isn't always true for all real x

sour hearth
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I spent 3 hours tryna solve this

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if i submit

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and get 70%

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again

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ill show you what im gonna submit

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before i do

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@coral light

coral light
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i don't get what you did in the first one

sour hearth
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thats what the other dude told me

coral light
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after the sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1

sour hearth
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the rest of the bottom?

coral light
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yeah

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sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1 is a known identity, you probably recognize it

sour hearth
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this what happens when i ask multiple people for help

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I erase and add something

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new

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and then next person

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tells me otherwise

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😭

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even Im lost now

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so is safe to submit or no

coral light
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don't do it yet

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can you explain what you did past the sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1 line in the first one

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btw this is what i was envisioning for the second one if it had to be perfect

sour hearth
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im gonna redo

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the first

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1

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and check again

coral light
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idk why this is an expectation but you might want to keep this in mind

sour hearth
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im just gonna not do this

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assignment

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tbh

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idek whats going on

coral light
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all of this was good

sour hearth
coral light
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actually i get what the bottom part is doing now

sour hearth
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ye that good?

coral light
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i think your professor wants you to explicitly write the result

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so using the identity sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1, you can replace the LHS with 1

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and we get 1=1

sour hearth
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ngl I think we just move on 😭

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theres problem after another

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im tired of erasing

coral light
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you don't need to erase

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just draw an arrow and write 1=1 on the side

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then LHS=RHS

sour hearth
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alright cant possibly get

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a 60% on this

coral light
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it looks good enough for above a 90% imo

sour hearth
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what time is it for you?. this is the last assignment until I start exp & logs

coral light
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8:56

sour hearth
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I just need to get my grade back up. I cant trust myself anymore

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with math

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I went from 83% to 67%

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this whole unit

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I was getting 60%

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or 50%

grim galleon
sour hearth
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I knew someone was gonna say it

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also why bro spying

coral light
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i think you might have to 1) learn what your professor expects you to do and 2) be a little bit more careful

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because in my experience it's way too easy to lose points for forgetting to write something

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but mostly focus on 1

winter rose
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im not all too good at trig, but i cant figure out how to solve sinx+0.1cosx=0

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outside of approximations / graphing of course

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is there even a way to solve it?

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i ran into it when solving for the angle at which something would remain at a constant velocity while experiencing a coefficient of kinetic friction = 0.1

cunning lion
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the sum of two sine or cosine functions with the same frequency can be rewritten as a single sine or cosine

winter rose
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oh yeah lol i forgot

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wait

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how

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wouldnt it have to be sin(x-pi/2)

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🤦‍♂️ i just realised you can subtract sinx to the other side, divde by cosx and then use arctan on both sides

knotty quiver
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$\sin x \ne -\sin x$

somber coyoteBOT
knotty quiver
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$\tan x \ne -\tan x$

somber coyoteBOT
torn sigil
# sour hearth

idk if u answered this yet but from 1+ cos^2/sin^2 turn the 1 into sin^2/sin^2 then you have cos^2+sin^2/cos^2 which is 1/cos^2 which is cosec^2

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pretend everything i said has arguemenys

sour hearth
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Every person I asked has a different solution

torn sigil
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what i said is completely right

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there’s different solutions

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i’d argue mine is the easisest

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if u can understand what im saying you’ll realise

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everyone solves proofs in different ways

sour hearth
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I already submitted it. But @torn sigil if you’re good with logs and exponents, do you think you can assist/help me?

torn sigil
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pretty hard to do logs n stuff without paper to visualize each step but go ahead

sour hearth
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I asked like 6 7 people

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Because I know 1 perosn

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Wont help me for more than 1 page

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😭

torn sigil
torn sigil
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i’ll teach you how to do a few and you can work on the rest yourself how does that sound

sour hearth
sour hearth
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I learn from demonstration not writing

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Text

torn sigil
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okay i can screenshare on ipad 🥹

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what country r u from

sour hearth
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Like this perosn did with red pencil thing

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I understood this

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Very well

torn sigil
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is this in america

sour hearth
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No Canada

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Why

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?

torn sigil
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same thing

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🤣

sour hearth
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“Math is easy” European 🤡

torn sigil
sour hearth
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“I did this in grade 2”

torn sigil
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we write cosecx and cotanx

torn sigil
sour hearth
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Ohh I see

torn sigil
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we don’t measure by grades

sour hearth
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I’m taking calculus next semester

torn sigil
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oh your a year older than me

sour hearth
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I just wanna pass this course with like 80%

torn sigil
sour hearth
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How yk this than

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lol

torn sigil
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reading ahead

sour hearth
torn sigil
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i just read into the extra trig functions so i can do more integration

torn sigil
sour hearth
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Year 12?

torn sigil
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yes

sour hearth
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I understand Uk stuff don’t worry lol

torn sigil
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oh okay 😂

sour hearth
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So you doing A levels or

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What

torn sigil
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yes

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maths fm physics chemistry

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🥹

sour hearth
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From what I understand the math I’m doing is the same as year 13 a levels math

torn sigil
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yes

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that’s correct

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you learn cosec cotan and sec in year 2 of a level maths which is year 13

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anyways i gtg hmu tmrw when u need anything

sour hearth
obsidian harness
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they introduce the reciprocal trig functions and then use them in algebraic proofs

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it's crazy how Cambridge A levels makes you start from scratch and then a few weeks later, you're suddenly having to integrate and differentiate these functions

autumn crag
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Can anyone help me ?

honest dock
autumn crag
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I need a few vids for AP GP HP and Qe

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For IMO

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What happened?

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Its on the 19th

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Give me a few vids

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I need to finish it

obsidian harness
autumn crag
obsidian harness
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I think you mean IOQM, yeah

autumn crag
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Nope just IMO

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IOQM if fked

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Just suggest me sun vids plz

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😭 🙏🏻

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Will you not help?

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Bruh

topaz spoke
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Hey can anyone help with geometry?

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Got a simple yet weird question

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Dm pls :))

grave pond
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There's not much chance that anyone will be willing to promise to help with a geometry question you haven't revealed what the question even is. Especially not in DMs.

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Your best chance will be to state your question here such that people can see what it is before they commit to engaging.

topaz spoke
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I get 2 answers with 2 different ways

grave pond
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Have you drawn a diagram? What are the two ways that give you different answers?

topaz spoke
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And i get 13

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But if i count its perpendicular i get smth way less

grave pond
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I don't think you have a reason assume that AB is perpedicular to the bases. (In particular, it won't be when BC+AD is minimal).

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Again, have you drawn a diagram?

topaz spoke
topaz spoke
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I mean the trapezoid wasnt fixed

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They didnt mention the size of AD base

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Nothing got violated

grave pond
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It's pretty much impossible to help you figure out what (if anything) you're doing wrong as long as you're not showing what you've done. Just responding "yes" instead of showing your diagram is not helpful, neither is just telling which answer you get (or in one case not even telling that, but just saying it was some mystery number less than 13) instead of explaining how you got it.

topaz spoke
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Nvm

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Messed up severely

neat wigeon
obsidian harness
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I thought this was free Nitro

neat wigeon
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😭

whole flame
serene mountain
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hello,

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can sm1 tell me what curve is generated if focus lies on directrix

obsidian harness
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another way to see it is as a limiting case

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so take x^2 = 4ay where a gets smaller and smaller towards 0
rearrange this as y = x^2 / (4a)
1/(4a) goes to +infinity, so the shape of the parabola gets narrower and narrower
and the line of symmetry is unchanged in all of this

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so yes, this is the same as the line of symmetry

autumn crag
honest dock
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isn’t proofs what geometry’s about anyway

vast karma
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Does anyone here ever had Descriptive Geometry as a subject?

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I kinda need help with it

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Any help/ resources is appreciated

cedar shell
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REALLY new to trigonometry, studying circles(?) rn.

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what's the optimial/fastest/most used way to find a terminal point, given a radians value?

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eg -7π/6

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what are coordinates

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like that.

silent plank
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add an integer multiple of 2pi to get the angle in [0,2pi)
then determine the reference angle
quadrant
evaluate cos and sine of the reference angle
apply the appropriate sign based on the quadrant

cedar shell
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reference angle is the angle created from the circle, right?

silent plank
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to your angle

cedar shell
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hmmmm

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so if the triangle formed is 30 degrees, just add...

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like

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6.28?

silent plank
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no

cedar shell
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and then?

silent plank
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if you already have a nice angle to work with, there's no point in adding 2pi or 360°

cedar shell
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oh, so do I have to remember the angles of all the "nice" angled right triangles?

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that way it's like easier to calculate (faster)

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but what if it's a weird one.

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like 13 degrees.

silent plank
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that a one of the things you should remember
but there's stuff to apply before this

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since -7pi/6 is outside of [0,2pi)
it might not be clear what the quadrant and reference angle will be

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if you don't have a special angle, you'd need a calculator if you want a decimal approximation

cedar shell
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but don't you just divide it by 2pi

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and find the remainder

silent plank
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no

cedar shell
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so then you find the number of circles it has turned

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then just ignore the intenger part of it

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and calculate the fraction part...

silent plank
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can you show what you mean

cedar shell
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like with -7π/6

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now that's 3 circles in the clockwise direction

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and 1/6

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then you just calculate the 30 degree right triangle

silent plank
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where's 3 circles coming from

cedar shell
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that was pretty stupid.

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I thought 7/6 is bigger than 2.

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anyways

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that's pretty much what I was thinking of
like dividing it by 2π when it's out of range

silent plank
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I'd express -7pi/6 as
-pi - pi/6

tall pasture
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Is anyone online?

obsidian harness
azure blade
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No

austere kettle
upper karma
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yes

real scaffold
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how do radians basically work? they are just an extension of the idea that $$ 2\pi = C/r $$ right?
instead of using the entire circumference of the circle you use an arch length of the circle with respect to the radius s/r. how does this offer an advantage over degrees?

somber coyoteBOT
stark spear
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degrees are completely arbitrary so some things break with them

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radians stay closer to the actual geometry of circles

cunning lion
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  1. calculating arc lengths is trivial in radians
  2. not relevant yet, but it turns out that all calculus involving trig functions is best done in radians
dry dome
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i hate polar coordinates

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why does there need to be another type of plane man

short obsidian
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For the polar bears or something

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Idk never took polar coordinates

gritty wedge
drifting idol
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i decided to put my air degree to use lol

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idk what to do next with my life please help m-

dry dome
real scaffold
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I wonder if you'd more often deal with fractions than decimals with radians. I notice it's pi/2, pi, 3pi/2, 2pi on the unit circle. with degrees it's an arbitrary number based on the 360 degree system 0, 90, 180, etc..

dry dome
upper karma
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especially in complex numbers

dry dome
signal saffron
versed obsidian
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best way to learn unit circle?

signal saffron
versed obsidian
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this thing

signal saffron
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Yeah

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I don't understand the language

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But I can feel the all sin tan cos energy

versed obsidian
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im asking if u have to memorize this or theres a better way

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cause if not ill memorize it

signal saffron
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Well

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Uk..

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Take equilateral triangle

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Slice it

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U will remember

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It

versed obsidian
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Hmmmm

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Ngl ill just memorize it it doesnt look too bad thanks for ur effort tho

signal saffron
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Like actually u don't need to memorize

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U will just get used to it with time

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@versed obsidian are you 10th grade?

thorn hare
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bro geometry is better

grave pond
# versed obsidian

Just remember the sine and cosine of 30° and 45°; fill in everything else by symmetry.
(That's what your diagram does with the dashed red lines too).

brazen nest
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hi

olive vortex
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hello

grave pond
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Or if you want to be really minimalist, just remember sin 30° = 1/2 and derive the cosine by the Pythagorean theorem.

brazen nest
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hi@grave pond

grave pond
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You're new here, so please note that pinging people at random is generally frowned upon.

brazen nest
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Can someone please give me the inverse property of Thales?

versed obsidian
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Sup

brazen nest
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Can someone please give me the inverse property of Thales?

signal saffron
signal saffron
last sparrow
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@versed obsidian you just need to learn sin0 to sin90, everything else comes through this, as the values of cosine are just the values of sine in reverse(cos90 = sin0, cos60 = sin30, cos45 = sin45) and once you know cos through sine, you can find out tangent as tanx = sinx/cosx, so for e.g. tan45 = sin45/cos45 = 1/root 2 divided by 1/root 2 = 1
Cosecant, secant and cotangent are all reciprocals of Sine, cosine, and tangent respectively

keen marsh
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hi :))!!

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can someone, please help me with this? I don´t understand: In a circle whose diameter is defined by the points P1(-2,-5) and P2(6,8), a scalene triangle is inscribed. Determine the length of each side of the triangle, the perimeter and area of the circle, and the area and perimeter of the triangle.

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Thanks in advance, guys and girls :))

drifting idol
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finding points to spawn particles,

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based on position relative to a pivot (center)

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got me thinkin' a little bit

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i added a gradiant to make sure i aint overlappin' shit

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and now i am crying happy tears

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because i can finally do it in bolt

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🙏

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an animated ico is comin' soon fr

limber atlas
glossy kite
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I need to do something with triangulating angles and I'm so lost😭

last sparrow
ripe pine
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What are like the.... inverse... trig.... things... like theres sin cos and tan... what are the... the... others called I DONT REMEMBER THEIR NAMES

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Theyre like.... inverses i thinks...

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Basic 10th grade geometry/trig btw

silent plank
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there are the function inverses
arcsin, arccos, arctan, also represented as
sin^-1, cos^-1, tan^-1

then there are the multiplicative inverses
cosec(x) = csc(x) = 1/sin(x)
sec(x) = 1/cos(x)
cot(x) = 1/tan(x)

ripe pine
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OH YES thanj you

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the arcs or wtv

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What do they do again. What purpose do they serve. Wait dont they like....find side lengths based on angle degree...or am i insane

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Waitnno

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What

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No the inverse finds an angle

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I forget everything.

spiral lodge
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Can't you revise everything on the Internet and/on the textbooks? 🙈

kindred ocean
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Trig Inverses to it the other way around

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arcsin/cos/tan are basically the INVERSE of normal trig functions

knotty quiver
kindred ocean
long ember
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how would you do these? the domain restriction is (0, 2pi)

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i changed the cos and tan into inverses and gotten (cos^-1(1/2) = 2deta)and then simplified it into
deta = pi/3 + pi(n)

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but isnt there supposed to be more since the domain restriction applies?

obsidian harness
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so $2 \pi - \pi/3 = 2 \theta$ is also a solution

somber coyoteBOT
obsidian harness
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and you can also add 2pi to the left-hand sides of both equations, so 2pi + 2pi - pi/3 = 2theta for instance

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2 solutions per period * 2 periods = 4 solutions in total

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tan is easier cause you just keep adding pi before dividing by 2

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for 2theta, tan is 1 solution per period * 4 periods = 4 solutions

obsidian harness
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no worries!

obsidian harness
cosmic sluice
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Where do you all reccomend I study from to learn trig identites for calc

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Same thing for logarithms

cunning lion
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if you have a textbook, odds are chapter 1 of that textbook will have all the material you need

flat fox
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perfect circle :3

solar pumice
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whos good at geometry 🥹

flat fox
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not me

thorn frost
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Can anyone say if it is solvable?

obsidian harness
somber coyoteBOT
obsidian harness
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it's solvable

thorn frost
obsidian harness
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similar triangles

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we're not just going to give you the answer; you should try it yourself

thorn frost
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I've been trying to solve it for the past 30mins

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But I couldn't

obsidian harness
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then show what you've tried so far

thorn frost
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Wait..

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Thats what I have done so far

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I could only find the angles that were equal and FC = EC

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And also FC = DF because F is the mid point

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Also angle DFB = angle CFE because vertically opposite angles

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That's how far I've reached till now but I couldn't find any way to prove the triangles similar or any other way

obsidian harness
# somber coyote

I suggest working backwards: you want to prove that $\frac{AB}{AE} = \frac{DB}{DF}$ right?

somber coyoteBOT
obsidian harness
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draw out triangles ABE and DBF separately

thorn frost
obsidian harness
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ah, I see, there's a clear problem with the question

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but this approach lets you see why it can't possibly be true

thorn frost
severe ore
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Hoi

severe ore
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This 👄

pearl zodiac
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how do you calculate the shortest distance between 2 locations on earth (spherical trigo) with the coordinates of the 2 locations?

harsh meadow
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Do i need to go to a help channel or is trigonometry its hole thing

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Cause if it is then what do I do here

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2sin a+3cos a=3

upper echo
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or just represent cos(a) and sin(a) through half angle a/2

upper echo
harsh meadow
harsh meadow
upper echo
harsh meadow
upper echo
harsh meadow
upper echo
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tho I now see that this is a bad example 🙂 There are wrong formulas in the picture )

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This one is better

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check double angle formulas

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or just use universal trig substitution. But I think it's better to understand how it works through double angle formulas above.

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Which, by a strange coincidence, happens to be explained using your very example. 😁

severe ore
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11th grade Trigonometry from the beginning pissed me off

short obsidian
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Or atleast I’ve yet to meet someone who does

severe ore
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But conic sections is love

short obsidian
grave field
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conic hard

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very bad

upper echo
upper echo
short obsidian
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Congrats

short obsidian
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Ykw I’m happy for you

near mesa
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Has anyone ever done this but on a Sphere and using a Pyramid as a Caliper?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_calipers

In computational geometry, the method of rotating calipers is an algorithm design technique that can be used to solve optimization problems including finding the width or diameter of a set of points.
The method is so named because the idea is analogous to rotating a spring-loaded vernier caliper around the outside of a convex polygon. Every time...

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I'm talking ofc about Spherical Polygons

severe ore
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Lattus

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I am going to complete this chapter today
Finally breath of relief

sand osprey
upper karma
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you can derive those identities by having a mental sketch of the triangles on the unit circle

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understanding the big picture first then working on the problems makes it a whole lot easier and sticks better

feral silo
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Ok buddy (Year 7 trig beginner)

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I can barely remember 30 of the rules

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With the hexagon strategy

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And off pure memory and skill

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Can you give me tips on how to find out all ot many of the trig rules and formulas please?

gleaming pollen
upper karma
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do you know how to derive it from the unit circle? it’s pretty intuitive and fascinating

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from this, you can pull the identities

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once you see it, you can’t unsee it

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let’s rearrange it, so it’s easier to see

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notice that you can find the pythagorean identities

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the cofunction identifies

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the function relationships

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etc.

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now mentally imagine the point moving around the circle

you’ll know what values it’ll be undefined because that triangle is disconnected

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for the sec, csc, cot and tangent

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(when trying to divide by zero)

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oh yeah, and you can see why it’s called tangent happy

can you notice any other things? these two images says a ton

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i can explain it in detail if you want

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i have this picture in my mind and then i can just pull the identities from it

for some others, perform the algebraic manipulation

but you honestly don’t need to memorize the identities catthumbsup

limber dagger
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Can somebody help me with these? For the first one I put my answers as "Is" and <-5,2>, and got 1/2 points. For the second I got (-1,7), (1,4), (5,6). I got 2.5/3. Not sure what I did wrong on either.

flat fox
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1st one seems correct

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2nd one also seems correct

limber dagger
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errrrmmmm

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guys...

feral silo
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@upper karma Thank you so much

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Just spent the best of an hour studying what you said with C. GPT and YT

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Thanks so very much, you are so dedicated in trying to help me

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Very very appreciated

feral silo
lilac aurora
muted dragon
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Never thought of trig through this view before lol
Except for sin and cas

lilac aurora
severe ore
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I am confused what to do next lol

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Nvm i solved it
So silly embarassing question

nova minnow
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correct me if I'm wrong but -150 deg is coterminally equal to 210 deg?

limber atlas
toxic relic
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reset everyones brains

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trigonometry

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never existed

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it doesnt need to exist

round girder
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geometry dash?

gray raft
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also i swear to god i dont need critical thinking skills i dont need triangle proofs who the hell cares if abc and def are congruent

hard frigate
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bro i never ended up rememberiing the similarity patterns 💀

deft bluff
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Since you just add 360.

simple vigil
inland roost
severe ore
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Trig is brainrot

knotty quiver
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why

upper karma
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better master trig because from here on out, that ratio will be smiling at ya

whole wren
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ahh trig, its one of my most favorite things in the world, what got me interested in math

upper karma
upper karma
upper karma
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it works a different side of thinking

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i’m incredibly fast on the algebraic manipulations

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the trig took a while since i didn’t take geometry

whole wren
upper karma
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circular functions

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the triangles are just a tiny fraction of trig

upper karma
upper karma
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becomes very intuitive

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but if you miss a few concepts, you’re gonna be confused

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i’ve found most of my teachers didn’t do well at explaining, but i’ve learned to study on my own

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i do a pre-study then lecture, then post study on problems, creating flashcards to space repetition

upper karma
whole wren
upper karma
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it’s incredible how far we’ve come from in math

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a lot of the organized maths today are relatively new

whole wren
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yeah pretty insane, still dont know how imaginary numbers are used

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but pretty cool

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anyway i gotta go study its gonna almost get late for me

upper karma
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and it’s helped us to exponentially develop our technologies

upper karma
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looking at a bunch of algebraic proofs can be daunting and hard to remember

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it helps to understand pythagorean theorem and triangles well then you can essentially see the patterns

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i’ve been solving trig problems with the unit circle in my brain

i don’t really have the need to draw it out

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i guess similar to a mind palace, i can walk around that unit circle

hard frigate
simple vigil
lyric palm
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hey y'all i got a question

short obsidian
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better ask it before i eat it

muted dragon
shut thorn
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I got a question.
Are geometry and algebra connected?

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Just curious.

thorn frost
shut thorn
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I mean I got curious because our book has an algebraic proof of how to construct square roots of numbers such as 9.3

shut thorn
thorn frost
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It's basically construction like drawing arcs using a compass

hard idol
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I think desmos lies
because this isn't right...

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i dont think i'd be the only one to find out

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so- who had?

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i was doing some trig practice and was using desmos for it

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unless

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wait ohhhhh im so stupid wrong mode right

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wasn't in radian mode mb 🥀

summer oracle
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can someone help me with 1

short obsidian
summer oracle
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im not sure

short obsidian
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take a look at the midsegment theorem in your book

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i think youll be able to identify it right away

short obsidian
# summer oracle

since the triangles are similar (from the congruent markers) you can directly compare the 24 and x through the theorem

toxic relic
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2x=4x-14?

short obsidian
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🤔 maybe to u but not to everyone taking this

summer oracle
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i was dumb there for a sec my bad

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is DC = 3?

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question 19

short obsidian
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DC is this whole segment

summer oracle
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DE mb

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and BC

short obsidian
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nws and yes thats both right

summer oracle
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okay so they are both congruent?

potent trellis
summer oracle
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thanks

potent trellis
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So, mate, did you figure three and one out yet?

ornate linden
dire ridge
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,rot

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,rotate

somber coyoteBOT
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Couldn't find an attached image in the last 10 messages.

summer oracle
small lake
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can sm help me with this number 9 plslsll

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<@&286206848099549185>

teal torrent
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!15m

lime crownBOT
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Please only use the <@&286206848099549185> ping once if your question has not been answered for 15 minutes. Please do not ping or DM individual users about your question.

bold blade
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Well find the side by using Trigonometry

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Now use Trigonometry to find half of the side, multiply it by 2 to get the complete length of side, and then apply the formula for area of a hexagon

flat fox
ornate linden
short obsidian
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or de rather

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as long as its correct lol

opal grove
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Can someone pls help with these? (Ignore the marks, this is a practice exam).

ornate linden
opal grove
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Kinda? I forgot

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Even my tutor is having a hard time with question 8

ornate linden
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basically

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composite shapes are shapes made combining 2 or more geometric shapes

opal grove
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Oh yeah now I remember

ornate linden
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alr so for the first question js make it simple

opal grove
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Still confused abt the problem gahhh

ornate linden
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like a rectangle and a swuare

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square

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a 2x2 square and 8x2 rectangle should be fine

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just draw a image which

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depicts a square and a rectangle with the dimensions i showed

opal grove
ornate linden
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yeah exactly

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thats 20m sqare

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square

opal grove
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Ah ok

ornate linden
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for the second question use the formula for a cuboid

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for volume

opal grove
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And how would I find the volume if there's no height?

ornate linden
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use the formula length x breadth x height

opal grove
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Oh yeah I fotgot

ornate linden
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but first

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convert 600mm into m

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which is 0.6 m

opal grove
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So would I find the volume of the cube and rectangular and combine them both?

ornate linden
opal grove
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Oh ja

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Sorry my brain is really fried I just did 2 practice essays

opal grove
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Would the cuboid be 2.4m³?

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Would the total volume be 12m³?

opal grove
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opal grove
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Would it be 8m³? Bc the height is still 0.6 for the 'cube'

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I thought the cube-thing was 2×2×0.6

valid badge
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volume of cube is always a^3

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where a is the side length

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the qn itself has many ambiguities imo

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im also not able to think too properly

opal grove
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Im confused how is it a cube if the height is 0.6 all around

valid badge
obsidian harness
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you guys are completely off track

opal grove
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I thought it would be a cuboid so I used the rectangular prism rule

obsidian harness
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you can just use area * length = volume

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if you check the units, $m^2 \cdot m = m^3$

somber coyoteBOT
opal grove
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I need this simplified my brain is going to explode in a minute

obsidian harness
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it doesn't matter what the shape the garden bed is to find the volume (part b)

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as long as the base area is the same

ornate linden
ornate linden
ornate linden
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wait ill solve it

ornate linden
ornate linden
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nvm i cant solve rn

opal grove
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Would it be 2.4+9.6=12m^3?

ornate linden
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just do as i said

opal grove
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Then 12/0.5=24 , 24*12.75=$306 ?

ornate linden
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yeah thats correct i think

opal grove
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Yay thanks

ornate linden
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np

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🙂

opal grove
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Ew this

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Brb I’m gonna shower, probs gonna be 30 min

ornate linden
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im a bit busy at the moment

opal grove
opal grove
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And what would this be? Btw, I have a CAS calculator so solve function exists

dark sparrow
opal grove
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Ja

dark sparrow
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if i asked you to find this length (red), would you know how

opal grove
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OHHH

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Uhh

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Would that be the sqrt(x²+y²)?

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So then to find d, would that be the sqrt(x²+y²+z²) thingy?

dark sparrow
opal grove
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Ohh thanks

opal grove
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So it’s 19? I was doing smth

ornate linden
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hi

opal grove
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Hi

opal grove
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3d Pythagoras?

ornate linden
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wait

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ill shoow

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first find ab by using pythagoras with 6 and 10

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ab is the hypotenuse

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then use ab’s value and 15 to find d using pythagoras

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@opal grove

opal grove
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I'm thinking

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While packing up bc I have a dinner party to attend to soon but I'll bring my stuff with me

ornate linden
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ab is basically the diagonal of the lower rectangle of the rectanglar prism

opal grove
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Istfg if I don't get above 93% for my EOY exam I might cry

opal grove
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Could I not just use the vector method?

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Whatever the fuck it's called

ornate linden
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i have a maths exam tmrw 🥀

ornate linden
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and show u the working

opal grove
opal grove
ornate linden
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oh yeah

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you can use that

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wait lemme solve it

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answer is 19cm

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@opal grove

opal grove
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Okii so I can use that method in my notes

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Thanks

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I haven't done my measurement in a while. It's an exam of what I've done this semester

ornate linden
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yeahh

opal grove
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Good luck on ur exam too

ornate linden
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thank you

abstract rain
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@small lake You have to think in 3D.