#geometry-and-trigonometry
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My teacher literally has to look up formulas on her computer 💀
I mean, she is in her 80s
Even my grandma didn't even live that long 😭
She said she won't get properly paid unless she works certain amount of years and she's gonna meet the "requirement" after this year
my teacher is a 42 year old man who wears exoskeleton shoes and hes gay he was great first now i have a 15 he refuses to turn in my assignments theres petitions to get him fired ive walked out of his class
oof
by defintion
Oooke so im doing fairly well in my math class, but theres one thing that feels super obvious but i dont quite get it
What if theres a triangle behind a right triangle?
How many combinations of nothing are there
Wdym
Sorta like the example, do i treat the other one like another right triangle and then solve that with the pythagorean theorum or something?
Im not super sure about finding the area when you have two triangles connected i guess?
Yeah width times height
Or divided by two for a triangle?
1/2 * 6 * 6 * 5
Only works if the triangle is 90 degrees yk I don't know how it's called in english
Yeah ill have try this for a couple problems and see if it makes sense
Now second image
Pythagoras
Theorem
15^2 + 15^2 = x^2
x = 15sqrt(2)
Sqrt is root btw
Idk if you learn this
Idk what grade you in
Everything understood? This is like 5th grade right? @crude gull
Yeah it could be, i forgot it though
no.
that is not precise.
$c=\sqrt{a^2+b^2}$
Mr. Macro
this gives the precise answer
it depends on how much digits your calculator gives you
also it does not solve area
for this problem we use
Mr. Macro
or to make it easier
i need help 😭
really really bad
i’m probably over complicating this so hard
but i have no clue how to solve for both variables
96 is supplementary to the third angle in the triangle
They are on a line
And 46 and x are alternate interior angles since there are parallel lines
remember that opp angles are equal and the sum of the angles in a triangle should add to 180 degrees
x=46
as a hint
Find the locus of midpoints of all chords of the fixed circle O such that these chords subtend right angle at a fixed point A which lies inside the circle and is not the center.
- 180-75=105°
- 75°
- °105°
13.180°
- 360°-75°-118°-45°=122°
- 122°
- 118°+45° = 163°
- 75°+ 122°= 197°
@fast pasture
thanks for your help bro aprreciate it
how not
np
i gave precise answer? 15sqrt(2)
i didint approximate please discuss this if im wrong i want to learn
also the second image didint ask for area did it?
ofc your helper you know better but i dont see the problem in my work
btw, would u mind explaining why i need to subtract?
well whole circle is 360°
idk if it makes sense to you?
oh, well i thought angle COF would measure 118° cuz it's a verticle angle
Prove that the distance between the midpoints of opposite sides of a cyclic quadrilateral whose diagonals intersect at right angles(and at a fixed point) is fixed
can anyone send me a pic of the range of the arc if the arc E ] π/2 ; π [
Drink water
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stay full
i have no clue how to make ABC and DEF similar
ok so depending on how much digits your calculator gives you rounding it to a certain decimal is not precise or inaccurate, it also depends on if you have the ans function but still could go wrong due to previous calculations on the calculator.
hence why we use 👇
and for this question
we do not have the base of the triangle to be eligible to find the area
so we use Pythagoras theorem and rearrange it to find one of the smaller side
like so 👇
Mr. Macro
so to find the area of that triangle we construct our own formula
Mr. Macro
and we substitute into the formula 🎉
Mr. Macro
Andddd we have our answer
Mr. Macro
wooooooo 🎉
Mr. Macro
use the rule of were opposite angles are equal on the parallel
also the bad printer makes it hard to see
a yeh right some people might have issue pretty common
yo can someone help me with my math homework its pretty basic but im just dumb
nvm i got it
I have this statement to prove
(ABC is the triangle, and a, b and c are the opposite sides of the angles A, B and C respectively)
Can I say that this expression is the same as the LHS, WLOG?
I think that way I can add the two up, show that their some is 0, and since they are equal, each of them are 0. But I'm not sure if this is a valid method.
try writing cos square as 1 - sin
then multiply a^2 and all
then see what terms cancel out
yes
have you tried expading
Mr. Macro
I did solve it, like this, but it took a lot of steps, and I felt like the above was more elegant.
Hello everyone, one question, the side faces are perpendicular to the bases in a regular prism, right?
does anyone understand how too solve this?
I'm having trouble but I dont know how too find the interior angles
this ones a little more puzzling for me
Assume that angle BAC is x
We know that all angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees
X + (4m +3) + (3m -3) = 180 degrees
While (6m+22) + x = 180 degrees
We can rewrite the equations as x + (4m + 3) + (3m-3) = (6m+22) + x
Remove x from both sides
(4m +3) + (3m-3) = (6m+22)
7m = 6m +22
subtract 6m from both sides
m = 22
sorry if my explanation is a bit confusing
no I understand it
thank you 😁
yes for the second one
We know that all angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees
(5x-7) + (x+16) + (8x+3) = 180
14x - 7 + 16 + 3 =180
14x + 12 = 180
14x + 12 - 12 = 180 -12
14x = 168
x = 12
and I just plug those in for the equations right
yep
you're welcome
what is m here
so it is saying that angle x is 5 times as great as angle y
yes
and I think angle z is 60
I am not confident in the answer I am getting for this question which is why I need help
yeah
ok and we also know that x is 5 times as big as y right
yes
so lets put x = 5y into this
and solve for y
now we have 1 variable so we can solve
5y + y + 60 = 180
so 6y = 120
so y = 20
so far u with me?
yes I am
then using that information we know x is 5 times as big as y
so if y is 20 then x is 5x20
so x = 100
all good
thank you for the help I appreciate it
np
wait so why would you assume angle BAC as X instead of assuming angle A is X? 😔
because I am rereading and looking at it wondering why A isnt assumed as X since BAC = 180
or am I wrong 😭
I mean that you could assume that angle a is X
ohhh okay thank you because I am taking these for notes
since I missed class today
😁
np
its fine I figured it out
ok
Those are two ways to write the same thing. Angles in the form of ABC correspond to angle B between A and C
ahh okay okay
Do I cancel out the 9/4 sec^2theta. Or do I simplify the radicand first?
no u can't
bro see
dude*
see
if you check the radicand you can multiply 4 and then you can take the 9 common and you get sec^2theta -1 which becomes the sqrt(tan^2 theta) hence it becomes
9/4(sec^2 theta/tantheta)
4d+3 = 6d - 13
I did that after some help and realization
Thanks
how do i solve this
!nosols
As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.
So, tip cot a = 1/ tan a
Mb
Help, I don’t get this
hint: common factoring
How should I continue
well (x^2 + x - 6) doesn't equal x(x-6)
as for the (2x^2 + 4x) u can factor out an x yes, but u can also factor out a 2
What should I do when I am baout to factor x out of x
kinda confused here
do u know how to factor simple trinomials?
yes
ok so what do u do when u are trying to factor (x^2 + x - 6)
find two numbers that multiply to (-6) and add to 1 right?
yes
so what are the numbers
-2,3
okay so then it factors to what
(x-2)(x+3)
continue from this using what u just solved
(x-2)(x+3)(2x^2+4x)
u can still factor out using common factoring
on the (2x^2+4x)
I found that the greatest common factor is x
(x+2)
yeah
so put it all together
|| 2x(x-2)(x+3)(x +2) || is what u should get
and that is completely factored
Thanks bro
np
rlly helped me there
u knew how to do it I just guided u 
when it says "arc AT" it asks for the lenght of the arc AT?
or it asks for the angle to the center?
that faces AT?
Length
Oooh so to find the lenght u can just get the angle in the center and then do the conversion with Pi
U can divide the circumference with 360 triangles, each triangle with the angle on the origin of the circumference has 1 degree
Every triangle is congruent to each other because of SAS axiom
So u know that you have an angle of 41 degrees on AOT(O is the center of the circumference)
And the angle insists on AT
So the formula should be (41/360)*2π
Wait are u sure ur looking for the lenght of the arc?
Oh nvm now i saw better what is given
My bad
About FG just do the conversion from degrees to radiants, same thing to AC
And if ur asking if FC is correct it is, you can check that by taking the chord CG and knowing that u get two congruent angles
Not sure about AC
Im taking my time
So i dont have anything in mind other than difference to check on AC, if FG is correct then it is AC
And same thing otherwise
Oh now i saw ur solution to the left, that's not correct
Because it is an intersection point, not a vertex of the circumference
Hi im back
Also u can't really say that arc FA is insists of an angle of 148 degrees because FA is secant to the circumference but the other line isn't secant or tangent
So u can't use the theorem ur looking for
Hmmm
Where did u take that 2*148?
By which vertex of the circumference?
The 2*148=x+(23+x) is a formula for when an angle is inside the circle but not at the center
2a=Arc+arc
Where did u take 24?
i think this question is wrong and if it isnt pls help me with the ans
Its an intersection point inside the circumference, you can'use that theorem
It has to be a point of the circumference
When a quadrilateral is cyclic?
This is the theorem i used
What the, do u have the proof?
So i used the 148 degrees and used 23+x cause that's the arc of it
like a cyclic quadrilateral is a quadrilateral whose opposite angles are supplementary
If its a theorem and it works, everything is perfect, never saw that theorem
Its weird that u get the theorems but not the proof
Not really but my advanced geometry just gave me the formulas
Lemme show u
I agree about the first two, never done ther two
I should see the proof
Also the last one seems useful to optics
If ACD is hysoscele then its easy lol
But u dont know if it is
Same
But if it's true did I do anything wrong?
Because I'm not sure if
But we know it is because of the SAS
If its true then its ok
Yeah it works if the formula given is correct
umm what is hysoscele
Idk if I can consider both the Arcs X tho
That's my only doubt
Cause maybe I could've done
A triangle with the two obliquous side congruent
2 x 148 = X + ( 23 + Y ) ?
Wait lemme write
Hold on, it doesnt say if BD is the bisector
It isnt a parallelogram so we can't say that the two diagonals has the intersection point on the medium segments
I have an idea
Wait
ACB is 30 degrees because AB = BC;
180 - 70 - 2*30 = 50
yeah that much is easy
It means that E isnt the medium point
u can even find AEB and BEC but that will also be pointless
yeah got it
Very weird, we have infinite solutions about the angles
Seems impossible but idk, im taking more time
😂😂😂
Because we have that (30 + x) + (30 + y) = 180
i got this in my test for 3 marks and if this is wrong im definitely getting full marks
It means that x + y = 120
yeah i thought of that too but it just leads to mmore pointlessness
It isnt in fact
😔
30 + 30 + 140 > 180
But are the bottom triangles irght
yeah cause like we dont know if EAD = DCE
Wait
Then it isn't a triangle
Is the question itself wrong?
If x = y then that triangle is equilateral but we have to understand more, there are infinite solution, maybe we need more time
THATS WAT IM SAYING
no
Yeah now I see not
thank god
i got so scared when i was not able to do this
Ur going to fail a lot, no worries
I feel like it has 0 solutions as you said 30+30+140>180 meaning a triangle doesn't exist
That's how you learn i guess
Yeah but that's because u taken the diagonal as a bisector when it isnt
yeah but like i was so overconfident that todays paper is gonna be a piece of cake
That angle next to the 70 degrees is 50
and then i wasted atleast 5 to 10 mins on this
Ur in highschool, wait for pure mathematics
🥲
Scary
I'm probably only gonna do calculus in uni
Because I wanna be a Vet
I don't think that deepdives in to a lot of Math
Thank you for your time pochineko and holi
Yup
Im sure that its wrong
And we can prove it by contraddiction
Lemme say this to him and then we check
Why would the angle next to 70 be 50 if AB=BC
It isnt bisector
Its just the image
That makes u think that
180 - 30 - 30 - 70 = 50
In geometry you can't rely on images even tho it's kind of all visual too 😭
ACB = 30, BEC = 80, BEA = 100, ABE = 50
BY amngle sum prop
of triangles
Ok wait
So lemme try by proving that it isnt possible
Wee are gonna use contraddiction that it can't be 60 degrees
Nah i forgot
Sry
😂😂
How did you guys find 50* 😭
no worries
The sum of every angle of a triangle is 180, there's a theorem
AC is a straight line
AB=BC
means 180
Do u see that 70 u added
80+80 = 160
Substitute that with an x
yesh
And we even know that ADC is 60 degrees
How can we even find other angles
how?
Because it is cyclic
Lool we have even more variables
Because we dont know how it divides
So we have x, y, z and w
Because we dont know which angle is ADE and CDE
And the not all the triangles with x angles are congruent with each other
yeah and we cant make another eq to solve for z and w
Alr i know how to prove that it is possible
Dont let me forget
YAYYY
Since it is cyclic it means that x = y
ADC IS 60
Yep
50 +40 is 90
But there is a problem
which angle are u taking x and which y
We’d need to solve everything via equations right
Nah it isnt
Lemme get to my computer
We can't just interchange numbers visually using the angle triangle theorem
yeah got it
we were only thinking a way about congruence theorems
so we were thinking that it was impossible
and thinking that a problem is impossible makes us impossible to solve it lol
Guys
bruh u dont need to correct ur grammer we understand u😂😂
sorry i am not at that level yet😭😭😭
i dont understand anything in this fig
we trusted too much the draw
using the formulas works, the problem is that i hate to use something that isn't mine
that's because i always look for proofs before using them
wat do we have to find in this?
the formula works, and also u can use the difference of angle to see if even AC is correct, so it works
dont use variables name that are points
u might get confused
oki guys i have to go bye
I did
cya
2x=80+(Y+76)
There's no proof that the Angle(X) = The Missing Arc (Y)
Also if I use x a the only variable it gives me 156
And as you can see there's a diameter so that whole arc should equal 180 and 158+76>180
Using Y gave me 78 as a value
Ok
akr
alr
the first angle u find it easily
well u already wrote everything
ur just looking for x?
y = 80 + x;
x = (360 - 2y)/2
x = (360 - 160 - 2x)/2 => x = (200 - 2x)/2
2x = 200 - 2x => 4x = 200 => x = 50
@sick kraken
damn, this is a 26, not an x
sorry
x = (360 - (2*106))/2
x = 74
u can use geogebra for euclidean geometry
What's geogebra
a tool
Ohh ok
Im learning geometry😓
I need a hexagon with a width of 18in what would the side lengths be?
so you've got your hexagon right
and its composed of 6 equilateral triangles and you have a width of 18 inches
so if we split that into 2 and break out one equilateral triangle we get this
here
now we know that since these are all equilateral triangles (and we're splitting this one in half) we can use similar triangles because this will be a 30-60-90 right triangle
so we're able to see that these two triangles are similar by angles and now we can find the side length using ratios
so since our side length is b we should be able to solve for it
$\frac{9}{\sqrt{3}} = \frac{b}{2}$
architecture2
and that's how you'd find the side length
thanks
if A,B two physicial or geometrical objetcs defined as a set of points,atoms ,proove that :d(A,B)=inf({T(x,y) | for all (x,y) belongs to A ,B respectively }) and T(x,y) is the set of standarts of trajectories beetween x and y .
the space is R^3
and the distance is usuale
,w simplify sin^3(x)
I can do this with eulers formula but what's the intended way to do it
like... power reducing + product to sum?
I know it's quick with the triple angle formula but who knows that off the top of their head?
(this came up in an ODEs class, solving y''+4y=sin^3(x))
idek anyone who remembers the product to sum formula
④ A circle with a diameter of 24 cm is cut in half. A cone-shaped cap is made from one part. Calculate the height of this hat.
Sum-of-angles formula. The power reduction will bump down the coefficient of the angles by powers of 2, so 3x in the argument won't help, yet.
I never remember product-to-sum / sum-to-product. I don't find them worthwhile, yet.
What measurements from the semi-circle are preserved, and which change (and into what)?
Where does the angle of the chunk cut out / chunk remaining go?
idk
doesnt say, maybe just thrown out
Are all u guys mathematicians?
Picture the cone you make (or literally make one). There is a triangle you can create between the vertex, drawing an altitude to your table, and going out to the edge.
So if you have an almost-circle (like 359-degrees), the angle of the "triangle" made with the vertical under the cone is almost 90-degrees (it's almost flat), and at only 1-degree, it's super tall, and the top angle is practically zero.
We can conclude the cut of the central angle is probably going to have a linear relationship with the angle of the triangle. We can check to make sure, as we go through.
@subtle girder I teach math at a 2-year college
Wow
The arclength of the remaining parts of your circle become what?
And where does the radius of the original circle go?
so are you turning a semi-circle into a cone?
Yes
I would suggest actually making a cap to explore the situation.
Label the parts, and see what they become.
Are angles JLK and LJM congruent alternate interior angles?
Since JK & LM are parallel, yes, LJM & JLK are alternate interior angles, and congruent.
Ty bro
geometric proofs are making me crazy 
im acrually about to fail geometry because of it

@river abyss How comfortable are you with some of the more basic proofs?
I don’t understand any of it
and/or have you worked in or read any of Euclid's Elements?
Most of the time, you look for "what can I guarantee to be true" at every step in the proof. Look at your options, and then choose something that gets you a step closer to your target statement.
Review the thereoms,postulates, and properties
Okay 👍
If u have any questions and what the properties mean you can ask me
lol u here
u olympiad nerds lol
xd
Do you use proofs in any other math y besides geometry
yea
Bro
delta epsilon proof my beloved
This is making me sad
its ok delta epsilon proofs are fun
u do them in calc
theyre way more satisfying
geometry proofs are 🤮
Geo proofs aren’t that hard
What do you need help with
Geo proofs are satisfying
Highschool Freshie
the majority of math is proofs after a certain point.
you generally forget about proofs until lower div linear algebra, and then upper division maths is mostly proofs.
grad math is almost all proofs. many classes have absolutely no computation at all. it's just all theory.
upper levle math proofs a lot more interesting than geometry proofs though.
I’m gonna. Take linear algebra in my senior year
linear algebra is a lot more interesting than geometry in my very biased opinion
Well geometry is fun because it has a lot of intuition unlike linear algebra, where things get abstract
linear algebra is far more intuitive to me than geometry lol
Are you sure about that?
yeah, actually.
You think vector spaces are more intuitive than for example Thales theorem
oh 100%
Hmm
people have different inclinations in math. there is no one subject that's ultimately more intuitive or easier than another.
Not ultimately, but you can see a big difference between geometry and linear algebra, especially the proofs
vector spaces are intuitive for me because it's just generalizing the concept of adding and scaling. and the whole point of linear algebra imo is showing that scary abstract vector spaces are really just adding and scaling vectors in F^n under the hood.
linear algebra proofs are way more intuitive for me than geometry/trig proofs. that's why i just use euler's formula for all my trig proofs 
But that’s not intuitive at all it you‘re defining sine and cosine with complex numbers instead of understand it’s geometrical meaning
It’s very good for proofs
eulers formula has a very strong geometric meaning
and the analysis definitions of sine and cosine involve plenty of geometry
True but I still think it’s better to begin easy and then go abstract
indeed. but once i did that, then i found that starting abstract made everything easier
my point is not that my way is better. it's that your way isn't. people will find different approaches/subjects easier for them.
Yes abstract makes a lot of things easier but one can’t ignore the history before, because absactness was build from that
Sure
Everyone has different approaches
Maybe my university is just bad, idk, it’s just not fun to get thrown by abstract definitions and theorems without showing some good applications or intuition
most people don't like abstraction of the sake of abstraction, you aren't alone. that's why i'm getting a phd in math and most people don't. but intuition is really important, yes. that said, i generally want the more abstract version of something before i care about using it to solve problems.
I see
Not necessarily, but your teachers may be less interested in teaching than their own research.
This is fairly common.
I teach at a two-year college, and we are expected to become better teachers, trying out new approaches every semester or every couple of years, depending on how it's going with the other one(s).
Personally, I prefer learning via abstraction, like ET, but prefer teaching through historical context and highlighting motivation via the problems that existed, then focus on the solutions with the math I'm teaching that day.
For -cos^2(x)can we use identity to make it into -(1-sin^2(x))
yes
my personal ranking of proof difficulty (easiest to hardest) is probably geometry, epsilon-delta, trigonometry, and linear algebra
they all have a lot of similarities but its NOT worth it at all to call them the same
who here is taking the sat on dec 2
hello, how do i find the area of this trapezium
Find the hyp then find angle BDC , hence find angle BDA and BAD then solve the second triangle with sine rule.
Hello, could somebody pleaase help me find the value of Xg and Yg? I have no idea how to find them
G is at the center point of the rectangle
One last thing, the height of the rectangle is given, even if i didnt write it
for some reason i pretty dislike geometry, especially 3d geometry
with calculus theres actually stuff going on and going through step by step solving stuff is engaging and fun
on the other hand staring at a bagua for hours isnt as fun, this is somewhat more tolerable with 2d geometry, but for 3d i just die
can somebody help me simplify this equation using double angle identities:
\frac{sin2\theta \left(6tan\theta \right)}{\left(2-2tan^2\theta \right)\left(2cos^2\theta -1\right)}
if the bot doesnt automatically just simplify the problem so it is easier to see, enter this in symbolab and it will give you the equation
i used chatgpt and all the other math solvers online but couldnt get the same answer as the one i had on my answer key, which was (3/2)(tan^2(2(theta)))
You need to surround the TeX with dollar signs to get the bot to render it.
,, \frac{sin2\theta \left(6tan\theta \right)}{\left(2-2tan^2\theta \right)\left(2cos^2\theta -1\right)}
यजतलमाओ
!status
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
@worthy latch
no 2
show ur work
do you know how does double angle work in general?
yes
i got the answer nvm
Please don't crosspost a question to several channels. #math-discussion is probably the better one here.
a more geometry-inclined approach
$A=\frac{h}{2} \times (a+b)$
Mr. Macro
h is the Hight
a is BC
b is AD
but first you are required to find the missing values using pythag
Is there a way to find the angle between two vectors without the angle being incorrect? I say this because the way many people say to do, keep getting me the wrong answer. I am trying to find the angle from the x-axis to the red vector which is anchored at the origin but no matter what I do, it says the angle is less than 180 when its actually greater
the angle should be 360-θxy but that isn't possible when θxz is less than 180 which makes it difficult
this is why
help
Okay so you need to interpret the slope
A slope of -2 means for every x your y decreases by 2
So you find your difference between -9 and 3
And then multiply that by -2 to get the amount your line goes down
And then since you start at 7 you then do 7-amount line goes down
ohh
idk 🤷♀️
it wouldnt be since its logical
wait you might be right
ABCDEF only point left is in the middle
forming GF and cf
Yes the mid point is F
Can I get some help? I have a vector that starts at the origin and goes to some randomg point. How can I find the angle between this vector and say the X-axis defined as the vector <1,0,0>. Before you Google the answer, Google's answer doesn't work. I need to get the angle that gets the correct angle in all quadrants. For example, arctan cannot tell the difference between quadrant 1 and 3 which other trig functions have similar issues but this is very important that I get the exact angle
Hell I even tried law of cosines
I need this angle because I can then use it in two functions that came up the x and y components of a vector. However when x or y is 0 using the law of cosines method, the angle is entirely wrong when I alter the x or y that isn't 0. Which then throws out the law of cosines method. Is there anything I can do? I feel like I'm at a loss but then again, there is no way this is impossible I know this for sure
Have you learnt about the scalar product? $|a|\cdot|b|\cos(\theta)=a_{1}b_{1}+a_{2}b_{2}$?
TheLord26
Is this what you are after?https://www.desmos.com/calculator/amaqkz4gj0
ABC ia a triangle that has the side lengths of a, b and c.
a, b and c have an equation like this: a^2 + b^2 + c^2 -6a -10b - 14c + 83 = 0
What is tan(ACB)?
That's essentially what I did and it gave lesser results
I did that and the law of cosines
Law of cosines showed potential though I have two inputs and it all falls apart when one input is zero and I try to move around another input. That is, the law of cosines is good but it is applied to two functions which have different inputs for each. Those two functions make up two components of a vector and when one input is zero, the other one just isn't on the right side of the graph when I move around it's input
anyone knows where this formula for a conic section comes from?
I suppose I could derive it with patience, but I'm kinda lazy rn
can anyone help me do the statement and reasonings for proofs? im extremely confused on how to do it and i failed my test because of it. feel free to dm me if you can help me :)
you can show that this quadratic form is invariant under translation, rotation, reflection, and dilation
it's just some algebra
what does this have to do with it being a conic section
the main reason why we need the cross term xy is cause of rotation
a circle already has a, b, d, e, and f
so does an ellipse
that you don't need any more terms to represent all conic sections
you're not missing a term somehow
ok but like
what does this have to do with a cone
and a section
of such cone
knowing the formulas it's easy to know this represents all conic sections I want to know if you can go from cone and plane to this formula
oh right, I assumed you were working from the standard forms of a circle, ellipse, parabola and so on
no
mb
well I already know proofs for the ellipse and circle conic sections, which would lead to the formulas, but I'm curious on the others, if the formula pops out or something
I suppose I could just set the formula of a plane equal to the formula of a cone
I mean, the equation
formula is weird in this context
I can also find a formula for a rotated cone and set z = 0
I think I got this actually
I made the equation of an inclined cone and after setting y = 0, it's giving me all the conics
apparently at least
Hello I cannot understand the third property of the pyramid:
How did they derived it???
The ratio said:
base on this figure:
basically, the area grows linearly as it goes down and down
how this is derived? Thanks!
I'm not sure how to prove that without unecesseraly fancy stuff
actually, it grows quadratically
just realised I read the thing wrong
the perimeter of the section grows linearly and as a consequence the area grows quadratically with the altitude
but basically, if you focus on each side of the slice, you can spot pairs of similar triangles, and you can also construct other similar triangles by drawing both altitudes from the tip to the bottom
yeah
that's the idea that makes the segment grows linearly, and as a consequence, the area quadratically
(just a property of areas)
omg I gained the ative role 🥹
does this property have a proper name so I can search how is the derivation?
I was learning solid geometry
uhh idk, and the only common derivation I've seen of it is kinda handwavey, it's a not very rigorous limiting process, there's probably something better tho
the idea I've seen is that if you divide the area in a bunch of very small squares to aproximate it well, if the ration between two similar figures is k, than after multiplying "the figure" by k, in all directions, the little squares will have multiplied by k both the height and the base, so the new area of each square is the previous one * k * k or * k²
I think that's a good intuition tho
oh actually, I think if you prove that for triangles, you can prove that for any polygon since they can be divided by triangles
thanks!
np
anyone wanna give it a try?
for two similar triangles
So if I said all the triangle faces of the two pyramids are similar, the bases are also similar?
I'm having trouble with this proof:
I get lost at the "Then apply the distributive property twice on the left side of (6):
So Khan Academy explained the proof more clearly. But it seemed to have arrived at the proof through other means. Anyone knows wtf this book is saying?
Rofl no, I'm dumb. I got it now fr. The way they phrased it, I didn't realize that step 7 was only working on the left side and foiling it out. STUPID. I should be sleeping.
They factored out the u-v twice
Yeah, TY. It makes sense. I was thinking about it too hard.
For that step, I thought that the righthand side was a simplification of the right handside for the version at (6). When they were just focusing on the leftside.
it says so plainly as well, but my mind didn't register that.
Find m,k in R s.t.
(y+mx)²=ky(3x+4y-9) is a circle.
Why does the axial section of a cylinder, which is parallel to the cylinder axis, look like this?
Why is it parallel to the radius?
Can someone tell me how to solve for X?
I think I understand, I can move the virtual line to the radius as much as I like. And obviously, no matter how I draw the section, I can move the virtual line to the radius as much as I like. And it will always be parallel 😅
hellow their
so using the cosine rule
we can solve the angle of tirangle HLJ
and since angle H is equal to angle F
once we find the angle
we can use it to solve x by substitution into the sinerule
e is opp to andgle E
g is opp to x+2
$\frac{e}{sin(E)} = \frac{g}{sin(G)}$
Mr. Macro
see if they're similar. If so, set ratios of corresponding sides in proportion
Someone help please
honestly just use pythagorean theorem to find the height. normally u should use geometric mean especially if u have ugly numbers like that on the bottom but you don’t have enough lengths to do it
Can u tell me the answer at least?
no
we arent allowed to
we have to have you work through it
Oh
not sure of the exact notation they want you to use but essentially its asking how you would map the points of one onto the other
so for an example lets take a point in Figure W and see where it is in Figure X
these two points here for example
we've got one at (-1, 5) and another at (4, -5)
now if we take a look at what's actually happening to the shape we can see that its reflected a few times across the x and the y axes
so in order to get (-1,5) to (4,-5) we can do a few transformations right
so the first thing I would do is flip it along the y axis and move it over
you can show that as
$$(x,y) \rightarrow (-x+3, y)$$
and if we apply this to (-1, 5) we can get the points (4, 5) which matches up with the blue outline shown above
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now our next step is flipping the blue shape along the x axis, which can be done with a transformation of $$(x, -y)$$
architecture2
and if we put these together we get a transformation of
$$(x,y) \rightarrow (-x+3, -y)$$
architecture2
So reflect once over the y and once over the x?
really? thats. strange
It’s some practice website and that’s how they want us to do it
And the teacher wasn’t even here today to explain
So I’m lost
i don't see a faster way to do it than that ngl
hey i need a confirmation for me answer:
find arc length of the sector where central angle is 3pi/8 and the radius is 18.2 cm
would the answer be 67.5/360 * 36.4pi
isnt arc length just the radius times the angle
so wouldn't it be 18.2*3(180)/8 cm
but that results in a number higher than 36.4pi
the circumference
i thought the formula was angle * circumference (2pi r)
so i tried doing the 3pi/8 which was 67.5
so is 67.6/360 x 36.4pi correct? or am i missing something here
ohhh i see what the problem is
its the conversion between degrees and radians
what unit does it want the answer in
uh my friend sent me the problem it doesnt really say
hmmm okay
but the idea is right correct?
find the angle measure and multiply it to the circumference
yeah that's right
just make sure the angle is a fraction out of 360
yeah sorry my mistake
you were right the first time
i just didn't really read it all that clearly
your answer above is in degrees but there's another answer in radians which is in terms of pi
6.825 pi cm is an answer right ?
yep
thank you
Why bother… when u can use this?
have you by chance learnt about rotations?
How would I solve it out if there is those 3 corresponding sides
setup a proportion
set 2 fractions equivilant to each other
simplify each fraction as much as possbile to make it easier
then cross multiply and isolate for x
what if its 3
what if what is 3
based on the congruent angle u can use that to figure out which sides should be proportional to each other
u may have to do a bit of testing i guess
- (a) Using Euler's Graph Theory theorem, state why the following graph contains an Euler circuit. [5 marks]
(b) Use Fleury's algorithm to find an Euler circuit in the following graph. Note that full marks will only be given if the steps for Fleury's algorithm are given. Clearly list the order of the vertices visited in your circuit - e.g., abcdef.
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theres 3 sides with numbers
Can Somebody roughly list Main topics/Things to know in vectors pre College
Can someone help me in these problems?
could you help me
The first one you can to pythagoras to get OP first then use it again to solve for PN
OP^2+MP^2 = MO^2
Rearrange to find OP then use it to PN
thx
so its 25^2+7^2=25^2?
tangent is opposite over adjacent
oh
Tangent = Opposite/Addjacent
You're referencing from the perspective of angle A
So your triangle would be labeled like this.
Opposite is the opposite of angle A
Hypotenuse is always your longest side or the angle across from the right angle formed
And adjacent is whatever is left
Therefore tan(a) = 24/7
Who can help me
find the length of the diagnosis of the parallelogram
ur able to easily find them
and Part B’s answer is already on the diagram
Is the largest angle of a triangle always opposite the largest side?
Im lost on this
how do i find the radius of a circle that touches the sides of the triangle (the one i just drew in)
I need some help regarding angles in 3 Dimensions. I have the correct angle for everything though the issue now is that, the x-component of the reflected vector is seemingly dependent on two angles for its correct x-component. The reflected vector is in Red and as you can see, the angle is nearly 270 yet the reflected vector looks as though its 225. This is because the x-component is following the angle of the normal vector in green, along the xy plane as shown in the second image of the top down view.
Though the x-component is in along the 180 line or the negative side of the x-axis which is correct, the angle from the x-axis on the XZ plane, should be around 630 degrees. How do I incorporate that into Rx so that way the reflection vector looks like its at 270 and not 225? I feel like I need two cos for one function but that obviously isn't correct at all. Could I get some help?
here is the paper work I did
nvm I solved it
The detail consists of a cone and a hemisphere. The surface area of this part is 320 cm². The volume of the hemisphere is 2000pi/3 cm³. Calculate: a) the length of the radius of the hemisphere; b) the area of the lateral surface of the cone: c) the height of the cone to the nearest 0.1 cm.
I am a little stuck I get R = 10
b) 120pi
And then c) H = 0
I am doing something wrong I need help
theres a lil soemthing called the incenter i think
and the incenter of a triangle is the midpoint of the largest circle that can fit in the triangle
and the diameter of the circle is 2/3 the length of the line from the incenter or 1/3
u gotta google it
hey so do we represent coordinate-plane curvature with a Capital Omega?
yes
that’s a theorem
for b, erect an altitude from C to AB. Does this necessarily have the same length as AD? What can u say about this quadrilateral, and use this to find BC. then find square simply
bruh "complex problem" smh
is this a troll geometry problem?
Yeah
Do you think anyone can solve this?
in that circle, there are two right angles (CD is the diameter)
one 45 degree angle
and the other two angles are equal
the two angles sum to 360 - 180 - 45 degrees
so the two angles measure 67.5?
@obsidian harness
yes
aight thx
two concentric circles their radii is 12 , 7 respectively, AD is a chord of the bigger circle, A and D are points on the bigger cirlce, AD intersecting the smaller circle at point B, C respectively , prove that AB*BD = 95
Couldnt solve this in exam im in Grade 10
let the midpoint of AD (and of BC) be point M
then AM^2 + MO^2 = AO^2 = 12^2
and BM^2 + MO^2 = BO^2 = 7^2
the way to see this is that 12^2 - 7^2 = 95
so......
isnt there any forced way to find AB or BD to prove AB*BD equals 95
because i dont understand how your solving proved it
use my hint that 12^2 - 7^2 = 95 to see that
this is pretty close already
thank you from your hint i knew it after i factorize i conclude that AB*BD = 95
👍
no worries!
I need some help here. I have need the x-component of the red vector, to be at around 0. Or rather, the angle should be almost 90 as the Tau_r says it should. But is there any way I can rewrite R_x such that R_x is nearly 0 when θ_xz is nearly 90? I found that the way I have it, works but it requires me to manually switch sin(θ_xz) to cos(θ_xz) at certain angles that I don't know of. That disqualifies me using a piecewise function and that isn't the goal. I need some way to get the R_x function to be correct with two angles it seems. Any advice?
The Tau_r is just a way to display the θ_xz angle dw about it
Here are my x and y inputs. For context, this is for computing the reflection angle on a surface
This is the surface
thanks if anyone could help
I made a rotation function in which it gives you the point after rotating any point any angle around any coordinate.
Is vertical angle congruence axiomatic and if not how do you prove it from axioms?
It is not axiomatic and provable
@upper karma thanks for the reply
I'll see if I can do it from Euclid's when I feel up to it

Hello
Can someone explain me how to know the projection of the cos in the sun according to the circle ?
For example, I'll take the equation : cos(x) = 1/2
What is the projection of 1/2 in the sinus axis according to the circle of trigonometry?
are you just asking what $\cos(x)=\frac{1}{2}$ means?
TheLord26
or in general, what each of the trig functions are actually doing?
No, like $\cos(x) =\frac{1}{2}\ = cos(x) = cos(\frac{π}{3}$
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$\cos(x) =\frac{1}{2}\ = cos(x) = cos(\frac{\pi}{3})$
TheLord26
Uhh, this is just trigonometry.
Basically think of x as the angle (usually its represented as theta). and the "1/2" as the adjacent side of a triangle divided by the hypotenouse.
then you solve using trig
what that pi/3 means is just 60 degrees.
but in radians.
$cos(\frac{\pi}{3})=\frac{1}{2}$
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yes.
Wanna know how project the cos point into the sun axis
For example the square root of 3 divided by 2 is pi/6
think of it as the xy plane. where any point is can pe represented with (sin(y),cos(x)).
and, in fact, if you graph $(\sin(\theta),\cos(\theta))$, you can find any point on the unit circle.
TheLord26
How can I deduce $\cos2a = 1 - \sin^2a using other identities?
,, \cos2a = 1 - \sin^2a
sb
By using the trigonometric identity cos2x=cos^2(x)−sin^2(x) , and other identities, find the positive expression for sin(A/2) in terms of cos(A) .
try putting theta for both x and y in the cosine double angle formula, and see whta you get
OH SORRY @worldly scroll i meant angle addition formula for cosine cos(x+y)
you don't because it isn't true 
its cos^2x right
Here I gota very cool trick for you guys: cos((180-a+b)/2) = sqrt( (sin(a)-sin(b))^2 + (cos(b) - cos(a))^2)/2 for all positive values of cos
the order is from l;eft to right like how you read english
Oh yeah the fromula that I rediscovered... haha... anyway its cos(a)cos(b)-sin(a)sin(b)
Ignoring compex values and using the formula for cos we we cos(a)*cos(a)-sin(a)*sin(a)=1-sin^2(a) we can calccel out the sin^2(a) and we get cos^2(a) = 1 which means a is 0,180 any anything after that added y 360 such as 360,540,etc.
Thats not true. Its $\cos 2a = 1 - 2\sin ^{2} a$
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isnt this a trig theorem for the 30 60 90 triangle?
Its nota formula but a equation that is supposed to be solve if I am correct? its just find the value of a
it's much more general than that
it works for any value of a
i don'tt hink so
unless you're talking about the side ratios
Just aced my trig test guys
nice
hi
someone help me please
i already got a few answers but i still need help plz i dont get it
Boolean algebra
Hi exloria.
From what I see you have found out that the triangle is equilateral. The thing you are missing is that every angle in such triangle has the exact same measure. Try to find it then.
how
Equilateral triangles have 60 degrees for all angles
... and bare in mind that BAC and ACB are both inner angles of this triangle (the 60 deg rule applies)
so how do i find BAC? Do I have to add everything?
refer to what Salaam said earlier.
Is there something to clarify?
What?
because 60 + 60 +60 is 180