#geometry-and-trigonometry

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dawn adder
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hello i need help asap

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w trigo

clever viper
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can someone help me with this

silent plank
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what have you tried

clever viper
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i figured it out

gusty wind
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help with these 2

silent plank
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what have you tried

gusty wind
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i didnt try anything

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bc i dont know

silent plank
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are there any words in the problem you don't understand?
have you made any attempts to draw a diagram

gusty wind
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no and no

silent plank
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so what exactly don't you know

gusty wind
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nvm i got it

hoary sapphire
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im new to geometry so

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i was wondering how you would solve this

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This is my attempt

dark sparrow
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they are alternate interior angles

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so they are equal, not supplementary

hoary sapphire
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How would you find x if it was written as equal to each other?

dark sparrow
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well you have the equation 5x - 18 = 3x + 42

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you would solve it just as any other linear equation in one variable

hoary sapphire
mellow vector
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You need to add 18, not subtract

dark sparrow
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that and also subtracting 18 from 5x-18 would not have given you -5x anyway

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and also the last step is just nonsense - why divide one side by 8 and the other by 13?

hoary sapphire
mellow vector
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You add 18 so it will cancel out with the -18 on the left side

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You want to isolate all of the variables on one side, and the constants on the other side

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So you move the -18 to the right, by adding 18 and cancelling it out.

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After that you should subtract 3x to cancel it out with the 3x on the right side

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And you will be left with only x's on the left, and only constants on the right

hollow plume
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ASAP

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So adding will get rid of them

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Will clear lots of confusion

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I would say add 18 instead of subtract 42

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Both are correct ways, however adding 18 gets rid of negatives

hoary sapphire
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hmm i see

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thank you i will attempt it again

wispy pecan
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hi

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could someone help me with angle congruence

hoary sapphire
spring scarab
gleaming portal
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<@&286206848099549185>

sharp hare
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Please note that this question doesn't fall under either geometry or trigonometry

inland stone
gleaming portal
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in geometry

sharp hare
gleaming portal
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but wtv

finite idol
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☠️☠️

hollow plume
finite idol
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😅

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I only missed one problem in that whole class

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Out of like 500

hollow plume
finite idol
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I will as a junior

hollow plume
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O snap

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You’ve done this 1 year b4 I did

finite idol
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☠️

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I’m taking Linear Algebra and Multivariable Calculus Senior year

hollow plume
finite idol
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Maybe Discrete on top of that idk

hollow plume
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My school only offers calc for discrete math

finite idol
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I’ll run out of math classes at my high school

hollow plume
finite idol
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Ik

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Cuz after BC my school offers 1 term of multi variable and 1 term of linear algebra

finite idol
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Indeed

hollow plume
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Both aren’t offered here

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Might need to start petition

finite idol
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Lol

undone coral
undone coral
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<@&286206848099549185>

clever viper
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is the last question just asking for area of rectangle minus area of circular ride

stray cliff
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Hi , I know math

upper karma
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can somebody help me with b

dark sparrow
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@upper karma do you still need help with this

upper karma
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yes

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is this right?

dark sparrow
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multiple things wrong with that

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  1. specifying a height for the prism is inappropriate - what if the relation between volumes were different if the height wasn't 50?
  2. even if you are going to specify a height, you have to include the units - otherwise, it's not clear if you mean 50 cm or 50 in or what
  3. the values you gave for either prism's volume either don't have the units at all (1500) or have the wrong units (21,600 cm).
  4. and even the numbers themselves are wrong: the volumes of the prisms so constructed would not be 1,500 and 21,600 cm^3, but 30,000 cm^3 and 43,200 cm^3.
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the volume of a prism is the product of its base area and its height, so if the heights are the same, then the ratio of volumes equals the ratio of the base areas

grand horizon
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Pls help

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@dark sparrow

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@dark sparrow

dark sparrow
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who are you

weary drift
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@grand horizon pls dont ping specific users for math help

sharp hare
upper karma
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can somebody check these for me

misty needle
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Also the cube

sharp hare
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Then you can see what the angles should be

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And you can calculate the sine and cosine by the lengths

shy mural
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i have a question thats not particular a problem itself
but in triangle abc, if I is the center of the incircle of the triangle (the intersection of 3 angle bisectors), and A is arbitrary, but B,C, and alpha isnt (alpha is angle BAC), then is I arbitrary?

upper karma
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then only alpha would be const

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BC as a fixed chord

shy mural
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I is the center of the incircle btw

upper karma
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so I will be arbitrary

shy mural
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do u want to see the original problem

upper karma
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lets see

shy mural
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Acute triangle ABC has B,C fixed, A is arbitrary such that $\angle A = \alpha = const.$ Let I be the center of the incircle of ABC. E,F are the altitudes from I to AC,AB, respectively. M is the midpoint of BC. Prove that the distance from M to EF is constant.

somber coyoteBOT
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blueberry faygo

shy mural
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i constructed some additional points

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let H be the altitude from M to EF, which means MH is the distance from M to EF

upper karma
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I should be arbitrary

shy mural
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Let Z and Y respectively be the altitudes from B and C to EF

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when i construct the figure this way, MH = (BZ+CY)/2

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because MH is the midline of the trapezoid BZYC

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also i figured that triangles AFI and BZF are similar as well as AEI and CYE

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so $BZ = BF \cdot \frac{AE}{AI} = BF \cdot \cos \frac{\alpha}{2}$

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but the thing is if I is arbitrary then shouldnt BF be arbitrary?

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or do we just want to prove that BZ+CY is arbitrary instead of specific BZ and CY

somber coyoteBOT
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blueberry faygo

shy mural
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@upper karma should BF+CY be arbitrary?

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i mean

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BF+CE

upper karma
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hu idk

shy mural
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is it arbitrary

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if I is the center of the incircle ABC and IF and IE are altitudes dropped from I to AB and AC

upper karma
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i dk the proof just intuition

shy mural
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oh

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it definitely should be fixed

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or else the problem is wrong

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@upper karma

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heres the figure

upper karma
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ohh

shy mural
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how to rotate

upper karma
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i ma doing something else now

shy mural
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oh

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ok

rapid flare
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Can you solve this question:

∆ABC is right angled at B.
A semicircle is drawn with BC as diameter and touching AB. If the radius of the semicircle is 10.

Find the minimum area of ∆ABC

rapid flare
hollow plume
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That way you clearly know what you’re finding

rapid flare
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@misty needle

misty needle
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What is the question?

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Wait what?

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You said BC as diameter

rapid flare
rapid flare
vital maple
# shy mural BF+CE

if s is the semiperimeter, a, b, c are side lengths then BF=s-b, CE=s-c, so BF+CE=a, which is constant

shy mural
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is it some formula related to the inscribed circle

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wait

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BF=s-b = a+b+c/2 - 2b/2 = a+c-b/2

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where is this from

vital maple
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it's a well known formula

shy mural
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may i have the name

vital maple
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there is no name

shy mural
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how do you derive it

vital maple
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you can derive it by noticing AF=AE, BF=BD, CD=CF where D is the foot from I to BC

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then writing systems of equations

shy mural
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what D

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oh

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thanks

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let me try deriving

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wait you dont even need the semi perimeter

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its just BF+CE=BD+CD=BC

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thankyou

rare kelp
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Bruh I just understood exactly how tangents work

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if you multiply f(x)=x by the tangent of a constant in a graph, like desmos, the line will smoothly turn while changing the constant

rare kelp
chilly whale
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Hello, in a problem I am supposed to simplify $\sin x -\cos x$ into $\sqrt{2}\cos \left(x-\frac{3 \pi}{4} \right ) $, where as a hint it was said it might be helpful to use the addition formula later on.
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How would one go about this? I tried googling about the derivation for this identity but with no avail. Thanks.

royal raptor
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does anyone know descriptive geometry?

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or is it too advanced for you

somber coyoteBOT
worthy sapphire
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@chilly whale cos(x-3pi/4) = cos(3pi/4)cos(x) + sin(3pi/4)sin(x)

chilly whale
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Is it just intuition ? Can't think of a systematic way of seeing that just from sin x - cos x alone, which was the only thing available in the problem

glacial urchin
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Can someone please help me with this?

verbal gulch
verbal gulch
worthy sapphire
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you want to split it into sin(x) and cos(x) somehow

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and with the hint of 'addition formula' this was the only logical option

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oh wait

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i didn't read the note

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hm

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@chilly whale what was the question then?

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i guess it is to simplify to the form a*cos(x - b) or smth

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in that case, you want to use cos(a+b) = cos(a)cos(b) - sin(a)sin(b), and you can note that this looks incredibly close already like sin(x)-cos(x), just that you have these 'annoying' cos(b) and sin(b)

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you want to make them equal to each other so you can factorize

chilly whale
# worthy sapphire <@207147500161859584> what was the question then?

The original question was to solve the equation sin(3x) - cos(3x) = 1, and the same hint was specified but for sine.
So it was a slight modification on my part because I only wanted to know how to derive the identity. Because the cheat sheet simply glossed over that part but took use of it.

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But thank you, i think I'm more comfortable now if i ever encounter a similar problem again

worthy sapphire
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ah ic

upper karma
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would it be a AA

hollow plume
upper karma
worthy sapphire
upper karma
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i solved it

worthy sapphire
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ah nice :D

upper karma
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but thx for trying to help

worthy sapphire
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this is the angle bisector theorem if you're wondering

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there's also a nice other proof, do you wanna see it?

opal hare
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Its not E. And I'm betting its not D, and possibly a, anyone got ideas

abstract mesa
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I got C(20 degrees

opal hare
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Do u have paper to show me

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Or not really

abstract mesa
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Yes

opal hare
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The answer is C, but how did you get it

abstract mesa
opal hare
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angles of triangle are 70 80 80..?

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what?

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how? angles add to 180

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@abstract mesa

abstract mesa
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No

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20 80 80

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It says in the problem isosceles and the ABC is 20

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So (180-20)/2= angle A= Angle C

opal hare
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oh lol

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couldnt read writing

opal hare
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u add the angle?

abstract mesa
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Because we're solvint for angles b

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Yes

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A + B +20=180

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But because it's isosceles by def sides AB and BC Respectively are equal and the angles that corresponds to them from across are also equal

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So angle A and angle B are equal

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So in reality you get A+A+20=180

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And solve for A which also gives me out B

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You

opal hare
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i see

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sso therefore 160=2a

abstract mesa
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Yes

opal hare
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Not E

opal hare
abstract mesa
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It doesn't matter whether it's changed or it's symmetric in that sense

opal hare
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True

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But better notation still :/

abstract mesa
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But no I did it right

opal hare
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U could've tried lol

abstract mesa
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It says point E is on side AB

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And D at the base or AC

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I did it right

opal hare
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🗿

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y u keep deleting ur own messages lol

abstract mesa
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Lol

opal hare
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ah im done with math, im literally going to use very few math modules

abstract mesa
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Why did you send me a request you perve

spiral bough
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Not sure if it’s the same in English, but in my language it’s “nedian”

nocturne remnant
round cedar
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Can someone please check if my answer is correct

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Question

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Answer

round cedar
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I did all of this but forgot to out the value of y can't be more angry at myself

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What other variable is their it doesn't tell you what z plus x is

round cedar
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Yeah I was thinking about it do you think they are gonna cut marks for it?

upper karma
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does anyone know how to solve this ;-;

upper karma
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can somebody check this for me

hoary sapphire
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Seems correct to me

eager berry
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is there such a thing as arccot? desmos calculator isn't acknowledging it

dark sparrow
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the graphing calculator acknowledges it just fine.

ocean pond
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can some1 help pls :D

worthy sapphire
upper karma
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i understood! though I haven't solved it yet right now

worthy sapphire
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alright

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let me know if you need another hint :p

upper karma
polar plaza
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help pls T-T

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idk anything abt trigonometry

rapid flare
hollow plume
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  1. calculator question
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6)sin(36)=x/8

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7)sin(46)=8/x

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For 6 and 7 solve for x

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The trigonometric symbols will be done on calculator

upper karma
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can somebody check this for me

hollow plume
upper karma
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thanks

upper karma
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can somebody check this

upper karma
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can somebody check this for m

onyx onyx
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this question makes no sense

upper karma
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Hi! Does anyone know how to solve this?

carmine abyss
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hii can someone please help me!!! ive been stuck on this for a while

sweet minnow
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quick question. Is this trig identity valid? If so, how or why is the cos negative?

upper karma
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Ig, it is like:
$sin (2t - π/2) = -sin (π/2 - 2t) = -cos (2t)$

somber coyoteBOT
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Subrat Panda

upper karma
sweet minnow
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yeah that makes sense, thanks!

worthy sapphire
hollow plume
# upper karma

It says use special right triangles and not trigonometric functions

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Though you may have gotten the right answer, you have to do it they way the question asked

hollow plume
floral moon
# upper karma Hi! Does anyone know how to solve this?

NH is a chord and HR is a tangent, there is a theorem that says "the measure of the angle formed by a chord and a tangent is equal to half the measure of the intercepted arc". Since HN is 114, <NHR will be 57 degrees because 114/2 is 57.

night cape
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are there any good resources for learning trig?

hollow plume
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There’s the universal acronym

hearty pivot
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does anybody have resources for learning proofs?

night cape
hollow plume
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Universal acronym

night cape
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Ohh

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But I mean like

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a complete learning of trig

hollow plume
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There’s khan academy

brave rock
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bruh tf is this

hollow plume
brave rock
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sorry, i forgot to delete because i solved that one

hollow plume
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You already did 👍🏼

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Good job

timid fulcrum
steep flax
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Hi is anyone here

timid fulcrum
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ye

steep flax
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I have a treat for any anime lovers in here

timid fulcrum
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ok.

steep flax
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Do you like anime

timid fulcrum
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sure, but i don't watch very much

steep flax
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It’s sending

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Why did it send like that

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It’s a funny anime triangle video

timid fulcrum
# carmine abyss

maybe review the bisecting diagonals theorem and other theorems, because i proved it as: PX = SX because TX = AX, thus AT must bisect PS. PAST is a parallelogram because of the bisecting diagonals theorem.

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You could also first prove that TP also = AS since TX = AX and they're inside a quadrilateral.

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after that state that ST = and || AP because there's a pair of opposite equal and parallel sides. And then prove that it's a parallelogram because of the opposite pairs theorem

timid fulcrum
# onyx onyx this question makes no sense

the question is basically saying: out of these 5 rectangles, create one that is 15 by 11. You can only place them next to each other but use take multiple. I think it's best to first eliminate some choices. And i feel like the best way to do this is copy the image into something like mspaint and copy and rotate the pieces around to see if the sides add up correctly.

timid fulcrum
# upper karma Hi! Does anyone know how to solve this?

main thing here is to just focus on arc HN since it's only needed for solving. If you draw lines JN and HJ, you make an isosceles triangle since JN = HJ because they're the radius of circle J. Use what you know about angles in isosceles triangles to find the two smaller ones. Since line LR is a tangent, < JHR has to be 90 because HJ perpendicularly bisects LR. then just find the complementary angle of < NHJ

carmine abyss
upper karma
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can somebdoy help me with this

dark sparrow
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(question is being addressed in #help-9 )

silent plank
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are you omitting any information?

upper karma
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Well

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BEC is similar to DAE

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And BAE is similar to DEC

carmine abyss
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im not sure what my next step would be for this prooff

timid fulcrum
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you may want to review the opposite sides theorem because since KL is congruent to LM and JKLM is a parallelogram, then all sides of it must be the same length (equal sides being the main thing for rhombi)

foggy osprey
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hi can somebody help

hollow plume
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Radius is determined by the square root

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(x-h)^2 + (y-k)^2 =r^2
Where the center is (h,k) and the radius is r

foggy osprey
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ok thanks

upper karma
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hii, does anybody know how to make the stem-leaf plot for this?

opaque ibex
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i have a question

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is the circumference of the inner tangent circle equal to the tangent triangle?

dark sparrow
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what's a "tangent triangle"?

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do you have a diagram?

opaque ibex
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hold on

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a + b + c =? 2rpi

dark sparrow
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no, not even close

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the perimeter of a triangle is in fact always longer than the circumference of its inscribed circle

opaque ibex
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is this true: ((a+b+c).r)/2 = A(ABC)

dark sparrow
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if A() means area, then yes

opaque ibex
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and how can i proof

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it

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prove it

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i dont want the proof just what can i try

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okay thank you

spiral bough
bitter lodge
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Is it proven that it is not possible to construct Pi as a line segment? (using only a compass and straightedge ofc, and no approximations)

dark sparrow
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yes but the proof goes way way way beyond the extent of highschool geometry

bitter lodge
dark sparrow
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this is the more general theorem

latent leaf
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would this be a enlargement? just double checking

hollow plume
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Therefore the blue is the image

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You are therefore incorrect

silent plank
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<@&268886789983436800>

hollow plume
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Ping doesn’t work lmao

worthy igloo
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I wonder why the bot didn't delete it

worthy igloo
hollow plume
zealous hollow
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Hi guys! Hope everyone's doing well. If anyone is able to give me guidance or some help on this question. It'd be much appreciated <3

smoky jetty
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thats a lot of composite figures (for my level atleast)👀

hearty pivot
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could someone help me with this?

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nevermind, i got it lol

zealous hollow
last oak
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Yo

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Can someone help me figure smth out

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How did they go from i to 2 and sqrt 44 to sqrt 11i

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How did they simplify it

zealous hollow
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Do u know what i is equal to?

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They just simplified the expression that's all

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44 is the same as 4*11

zealous hollow
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Not me bro

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Alg haha

hollow plume
# last oak

If there’s a negative in the root, there will be an i

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$\sqrt{44}=\sqrt{4}*\sqrt{11}$

somber coyoteBOT
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% Openglobe %

hollow plume
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Square root of 4 is 2

hollow plume
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I can’t believe I replied to the wrong person

zealous hollow
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XD happens mate

inland vale
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do yk how

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would i

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what do i do to find

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tangent

clever viper
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just use a calculator

hollow plume
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In this case degree number stays the same

upper karma
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i nee help

inland vale
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nvm

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figured it out

valid musk
hollow raft
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sin = y
cos = x

tan = y/x

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In unit circle terms

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That’s a way to explain it?

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So yeah y(20)/x(20) would simplify to y/x(20)

dark sparrow
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tan(x) is literally defined as sin(x)/cos(x), nothing else to it

glacial urchin
nocturne remnant
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Fix your language dude🗿

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Let angle A be the smallest angle of triangle ABC. BC divides the circumcircle of the triangle into two arcs. Let U be a point on the arc BC not containing A. The perpendicular bisectors of AB and AC meet AU at V and W respectively. BV and CW intersect at T. Show that UA = TB + CT.

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I assume you meant perpendicular bisectors because I have no idea

stray wigeon
floral moon
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basic trig question: will the initial side always be the positive x axis

low sky
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what's the initial side?

stray wigeon
low sky
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how would i go about showing that the red line is parallel to AC? Here G is the centroid and D is constructed by drawing a line through the midpoint of the median

signal peak
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Bruh I just joined this server as a 10th grade student looking for enlightenment but instead I got blinded by this geo prob💀

low sky
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heres the drawing

stray wigeon
# low sky how would i go about showing that the red line is parallel to AC? Here G is the ...

** Below is where reking's question comes from**
“Here is my attempt at solving this geometry problem:
(1) Draw the median of side BC and name its point of intersection with DC as K,
(2) We know that K is the centroid of triangle ABC, so 2 * DK = KC,
(3) We also figure out that DK = 2m, KF = m, and FC = 3m,
(4) Connect points K and E, and show that KE is parallel to AC in order to get FE / AF = 1/3.
I am simply stuck on the “showing that KE // AC is true” part.”
(Solution: #help-3 message)

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low sky
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yeah i just took the part we were stuck on

silver blaze
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Can anyone help me prooving this by formula

somber coyoteBOT
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Pebble

heavy mortar
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hey guys i have a dumb question that im stuck on

teal kayak
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Hey, do you guys know of any programs like geogebra I could use that can like, record values as they change and automatically graph them

heavy mortar
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dw about the french text its useless

teal kayak
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Or just better programs than geogebra idk it doesn't seem like The best

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i think you are supposed to use homework help section

spiral bough
teal kayak
# smoky jetty desmos?

not quite bc it was geometrical values i wanted to graph and i was hoping for something cleaner than just graphing a bunch of points but i figured it out

teal kayak
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very clean uwu

pure void
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how to do this

silent plank
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angle chasing, angle sums on lines and of triangles

low sky
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anyone think they can figure this out?

final yew
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Find the value of $\tan \frac{\pi}{15}+\tan \frac{2\pi}{15}+\cdots+\tan \frac{5\pi}{15}$

somber coyoteBOT
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Eren Yeager

floral moon
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Rewrite $\sqrt{cos^2\theta + sin^2\theta + cot^2\theta}$ in nonradical form without using absolute values for $\pi < \theta < 2\pi$.

somber coyoteBOT
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Chrovo

floral moon
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ok so I solved most of it and got up to | csc theta |

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but the answer says its -csc theta

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oh wait nvm

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I ignored the pi < theta < 2pi part

dense bough
eternal pier
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Hello?...

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I just need help for number 1 and 8...

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(I just started this Trigo stuff)

silent plank
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were you able to solve 2 to 7

eternal pier
silent plank
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consider sohcahtoa

eternal pier
silent plank
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do you know any trig at all

eternal pier
silent plank
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I'd recommend you start with something like a lesson on khan

eternal pier
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Khan Academy?

silent plank
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yes

smoky jetty
low sky
worthy sapphire
# low sky

it's certainly not the way you wanted to solve the problem, but vectors work (sadly)

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(youll get the midpoint of the median from C is 1/4a + 1/4b + 1/2c, D = 1/3 b + 2/3 c, G = 1/3(a + b + c))

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(so vectors GD = 1/3 AC)

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i'll look for a synthetic solution

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i think it's a very nice result though

low sky
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someone else helped me out on that one, and figured out a nice way to show it

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if you want i can show you

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@low sky ah got it!
important step is to prove that TAB~TDE with factor 3:1 (where E is the intersection of BT and AC, and N is the midpoint of AB, and T the midpoint of CN)
do this by defining E' and D' such that AE':E'C = 1:2 and BD':D'C = 1:2, and then that T', the intersection of AD' and BE', is the midpoint of CN [footnote 1] -- this will imply T = T' and since there is only one possible intersection for AT with BC, we must have D' = D and E' = E analogously
then since NG:GC = 1:2 so NG:GT:TC = 2:1:3, we know TGD~TCA by sas, so AC//GD

footnote 1: see second picture

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:p i was typing while you said that

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i wanna know tho!

tame pulsar
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geometry

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:(

worthy sapphire
low sky
worthy sapphire
silver blaze
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Nah that wouldn't work i found easier way

candid comet
low sky
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worthy sapphire
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i did leave that as a big gap to be checked, so i'm glad you asked me about that

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oh, and read T as T' lol (edited)

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if you don't like random people just citing homothety, you can also note CPT~CAN by PT//PQ//AB//AN so CT/CN = PT/AN = (2PT)/(2AN) = PQ/AB = 1/2

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this is also the reason why T lies on EM, where E and M are the midpoints of CA and CB respectively, and then you can also apply ceva on triangle MCA and point T

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but ceva is basically menelaos

low sky
worthy sapphire
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and AB/DE = CA/CE = 3

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this is very similar to showing that the centroid lies on ratios 1:2 on a median

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actually just the same

floral moon
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is csc the same as sin^-1

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I meant csc

somber coyoteBOT
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potato

slender wasp
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If you need more detail I can explain

floral moon
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yea I know that but can't sin^-1 be rewritten as 1/sin

slender wasp
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(note really we have to restrict sin to an interval)

floral moon
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and if not why

somber coyoteBOT
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potato

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potato

slender wasp
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As a similar example, we can take the function f(x) = x^2 defined on positive numbers. Then the function 1/f would send x to 1/x^2, but the function f^-1 sends x to its square root.

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It's completely analogous to that, though the notation is a bit confusing potentially, because of course with numbers we expect a^-1 = 1/a

somber coyoteBOT
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potato

slender wasp
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Or as another example, sin^-1(1/2) is just 30 degrees, whilst 1/sin(1/2) is some weird decimal

floral moon
slender wasp
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I'd actually view it as being the other way round aha - sin/cos etc are the exceptions :)

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Typically (in my experience at least) if f is a function then f^n is what happens when you apply f n times

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So f^-1 is when you apply it '-1' times i.e. inverse

slender wasp
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It's just a weird thing I guess here

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Hope that clears it up?

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I remember asking my teacher the exact same thing a few years ago

floral moon
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oh

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yeah I that makes sense

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If I'm understanding correctly

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Since $f^-1(x)$ implies inverse function, in an ordinary function, you would have to do stuff to find its inverse.(swap the x and y, and solve for y). On the other hand, $f^n(x)$ is different, it is $(f(x))^n$.

somber coyoteBOT
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Chrovo

slender wasp
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That's only strictly true for sine and cos, but correct for them

somber coyoteBOT
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potato

slender wasp
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(ignore the either)

floral moon
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wait so you can't do tan^2 theta

slender wasp
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I'd say it depends on context but wouldn't worry about it too much

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Oh sorry well yes tan, csc, etc

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Any standard trig thing.

floral moon
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wait so which trig functions were you referring to? vers theta, covers theta, etc..?

grave pond
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If the reader recognizes it as a trigonometric function in the first place, they will probably use the general convention that positive exponents refer to exponentiating the function value rather than iterating the function.

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Always remember that this is about notational conventions rather than deductive facts that follow crisp rules.

slender wasp
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Can't say I've ever seen anyone use vers for non meme purposes aha

floral moon
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Oh alright

upper karma
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can somebody pls quickly tell me what yd^3 means

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i need to turn this in in 2 hours

grave pond
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Probably the volume of a cube with a side length ot 1 "yard", which is an archaic unit of length still used in the USA.

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I think there are 3 "ft" to one "yd" and therefore 27 ft³ in 1 yd³.

upper karma
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ooooh ok thanks

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i think i get it

wanton merlin
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what is 8-10?

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can you use the properties of rotations to show what the measures of the length of diagonals are equal?

worthy sapphire
worthy sapphire
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the harmonic mean argument was not even needed btw

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you can work with ratios on the median CN and show that T'=T from that

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so it'll become completely elementary

weak smelt
# wanton merlin what is 8-10?
  1. you can see that the shape you're given is nothing, but 4 triangles and a rectangle, now do something with triangles to show that the given shape is indeed a rectangle

  2. notice what triangles the bisecting lines form within the main triangle, find a way to apply pythagoras once or twice and deduce the lengths from that

  3. for this one you just need to draw these points and then remind yourself what a square is

upper karma
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inverse sin and sin to the power -1 are different

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i remember when i was dumb and thought inverse sin was csc

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lol

weary drift
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@upper karma cut it out

upper karma
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😉

dapper sable
red bluff
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part i) is straight forwards

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hw would i do part 2 and 3?

worthy sapphire
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and for part 3, look at what you've done at part 2

spare stump
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hey this is a pretty basic concept but im confused, can anyone tell me the difference between aa similarity and aa corollary of triangles, like i just dont get when to mention which one of these theorems

grave pond
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I don't think "AA corollary" is a standard name. Can you quote (or post screenshots of) the exact statements of the two theorems you're talking about?

naive rivet
# red bluff

For Part 3: You can have a completely algebraic solution if you know this fact:
for a complex number z
$$z^7-1=(z-1)\prod_{k=1}^{3}{\left[z^2-2z\cos{\frac{2k\pi}{7}}+1\right]}$$
dividing by z-1 both sides
$$\sum_{k=0}^{6}{z^k}=\prod_{k=1}^{3}{\left[z^2-2z\cos{\frac{2k\pi}{7}}+1\right]}$$
dividing by $~z^3~$both sides we have :
$$1+\sum_{k=1}^{3}\left[z^k+\frac{1}{z^k}\right]=\prod_{k=1}^{3}{\left[z+\frac{1}{z}-2\cos{\frac{2k\pi}{7}}\right]}$$
Now you could substitute $~z+\frac{1}{z} =t~$.
You'll get RHS as (t-a)(t-b)(t-c) = some polynomial now just use the fact that a,b,c are the roots of the polynomial in the LHS, and use vietas directly.

somber coyoteBOT
worthy sapphire
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cool sol though! hehe

naive rivet
worthy sapphire
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right

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sort of a translation :p

turbid berry
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Hey idiot engineer here.
I look for midpoints on lines using x = ym + b (Most lines are close to vertical) on a screen, and I find the midpoint of these lines using

m = (x1 - x0) / (y1 - y0)
b = x0 - y0*m 
line_midpoint_on_screen = (SCREEN_HEIGHT*0.5 * m + b, SCREEN_HEIGHT*0.5)

But if the offset goes beyond the screen width or below 0, I get a problem finding this midpoint. My idea so far is to just isolate y and find the midpoint by

y = x/m - b 
y = SCREEN_WIDTH*0.5/m - b

But is there perhaps a more clever way of doing it? A bit annoying to have special cases everytime b is outside screen space or m goes to infinity

nocturne remnant
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Isn’t the midpoint just

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Wait no, I read your question again

upper karma
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How can I prove that |sin x| <= |x| (the absolute value of sin x is less than or equal to the absolute value of x)?

spiral bough
somber coyoteBOT
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DVD_Koce_DVD

spiral bough
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Therefore you only need to look at the case $|x| < \frac{\pi}{2}$

somber coyoteBOT
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DVD_Koce_DVD

spiral bough
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But then if you look at the unit circle and build both angles x and -x, they cut off an arc AB, which length is bigger than the length of the chord AB

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Or in other words $2|\sin{x}| < \frac{2x}{2\pi} \cdot 2\pi$

somber coyoteBOT
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DVD_Koce_DVD

upper karma
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Thanks. That was really useful.

upper karma
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Xm [ (X1 + X2)/2 ] , Ym [ (Y1 + Y2)/ ]

amber condor
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How do you do that

nocturne remnant
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Hint: First prove that BE and CF are angle bisectors of D1E1F1 and reduce the problem

rapid elm
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Can someone help me to find the area of the rectangle ABCD

worthy sapphire
# rapid elm

think back on the definition of a circle and draw in another radius

rapid elm
scarlet glade
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Area = xr + r²

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y² + (x+r)² = 6²

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x²+y²+r²+2xr = 36

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2r²+2xr = 36

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Area = 18

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Hope that helps

rapid elm
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Ok thanks you

rapid elm
scarlet glade
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6 squared is the hypotenuse

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Pythagorean theorem

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One side is x+r, the other side is y

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So we get (x+r)² + y² = 6² = 36

rapid elm
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OH ok i see

scarlet glade
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I'm supposed to solve for the angle x, but I'm stuck. Any tips?

worthy sapphire
vital maple
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or notice that ABQP lies on a circle with center M the use inscribed angle theorem

rancid wave
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idk if im over thinking this

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but do yall know how i could solve this?

plush robin
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do i need to know algebra before learning geometry

covert pine
rare kelp
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Whacky stochrome

valid harbor
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actually nvm lol

floral shale
# rancid wave

Extend this line (shown in red) then use right triangle altitude theorem

amber quartz
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why doesn't bezout's thereom apply for circles?

final yew
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isn't bezout a number theoretic stuff?

amber quartz
final yew
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i am really sorry to bother but afaik , bezout theorem says that there exist solutions to diophantine eqn ax+by=c iff gcd(a,b) divides c iirc

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i am unable to relate it to circles

slender wasp
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different theorem aha

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One is about intersection points of curves

nocturne remnant
nocturne remnant
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Not that I understand it but seems like it would be of use

upper karma
dusk light
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I am super confused on this problem. Can someone possibly help me? (:

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<@&286206848099549185>

floral shale
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You can use special triangles

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A regular polygon of $n$ sides has $n$ number of congruent isosceles triangles whose vertex angle is $\frac{360}{n}$ degrees

somber coyoteBOT
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Umbraleviathan

floral shale
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@sweet orchid#1179

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Bruh

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Did this person leave the server

velvet jolt
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I don't understand

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Idk wht to do

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Teacher didn't rlly help us with it

austere hearth
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can someone help me find x in fonction of a and b

plush robin
worthy sapphire
fleet cosmos
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I couldn't simply it further

upper karma
sterile sail
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How to find the Surface of this triangle

slender wasp
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Uhh

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I can't tell if this is just a joke, this could be any triangle unless the task is to measure it with a ruler or smth lol

hollow plume
clever fable
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can someone help pls, I get that the direction changes i.e. it can't be a, but idk how to find which of the other options it will be?

floral shale
analog breach
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So the main questions that I need help with are questions 2 and 4

grand olive
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Do graphs of equations fall into geometry?

upper karma
opaque ferry
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2 is straightforward

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my problem is one

onyx cloud
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have you heard of the law of sines?

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@opaque ferry

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also, how did you manage to solve 2 without getting an answer for 1

silent plank
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Q2 can be solved from applying cos law directly. finding other angles is unnecessary despite what the hint says

onyx cloud
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yeah but im still curious on how they thought of the cos law but not the sin law

silent plank
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perhaps they did but had trouble using inverses

last fable
runic beacon
# last fable

not the right channel for this question, but do you still need help with it?

runic beacon
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Okay so what exactly do you have trouble with? And what does the question state?

flint rose
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2SinASinB = cos(A - B) - cos(A + B)

fleet cosmos
flint rose
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I see great

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Hmm was this is a jee level question?

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I've seen few with Inv trigo in it

fleet cosmos
flint rose
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Ic

jade merlin
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hi

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i put 12 * tan (55) into my calculator and I got -542.1970549

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what did I do wrong and how did they get 17.1

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oh bruh i got it

floral shale
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Imagine being in radian mode

quick crater
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Dead

upper karma
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ig the the formula is derived from like if we keep the largest possible square pyramid in a cube of same side lenght as of the square and then we ahave to find the volume of it

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ofc this would require some calculus

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right

stiff bloom
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Is it true that the altitude of an equilateral triangle with an inscribed triangle of a certain radius is just 3r?

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*inscribed circle

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Not triangle

upper karma
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yeah its right

static glacier
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But it seems to easy and I'm worried

upper karma
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what the hell becoz it is easy no need to worry

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just ask

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the arc angle

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ig

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and ef too

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which angles u want to find

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ig they have calculate angle 140 for the major arc DF

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yeah

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for the minor arc

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it is 160

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for major it is 140

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yess

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but idk about how the hell they got 140

zenith raptor
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can someone give me the answer

upper karma
zenith raptor
upper karma
zenith raptor
zenith raptor
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uh

upper karma
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y=0.4x

floral shale
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Wel no

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It's not that

floral shale
upper karma
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Does anyone know how to solve this?

fierce shadow
fierce shadow
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@violet nest

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@obtuse field

vital maple
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use complex numbers

fierce shadow
vital maple
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yes

fierce shadow
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i should't

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without it

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it must be -0.5, but I cannot solove this

fierce shadow
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@agile roost

fierce shadow
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how do I find out which quarter the point is in?

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tan(28pi/3)

empty star
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oh

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well

upper karma
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I have been given a project to make a model on trigonometry, So I wanted a new innovative idea which is not generally available on search engine, like something completely creative.

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So can anybody help me out

lucid sandal
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What kind of model

upper karma
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math

opal sedge
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why does sin(x) have an inverse function when it doesn't pass the horizontal line test

upper karma
lucid sandal
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... a project to make a model on trigonometry

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What kind of model

gusty umbra
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AB/DE = AC/CE = 6/7 and <c is congruent to <c

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Two pairs of corresponding sides that form the same ratio and one pair of congruent angles can be found in the two triangles ABC and EDC, therefore satisfying the SAS similar postulate

upper karma
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But i said they arent similar since their ratios arent the same

silent plank
opal sedge
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huh

silent plank
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i.e. arcsin(sin(x)) = x for -pi/2 <= x <= pi/2

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,W graph sin(x) from -pi/2 to pi/2

somber coyoteBOT
upper karma
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I found this on the web.

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I mean, versine, coversine, haversine are rarely known and rarely used trig functions.

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you can do your presentation on this. it will be amazing.

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how do you feel about my idea?

hollow raft
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Could I use this in a lesson on dilation for kids in grade 5?

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Billy and his dilating anabolic steroids, although maybe increasing his outside size, don't increase the angles from within. :)

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Cause in reality, he's still the same old triangle.

upper karma
upper karma
hollow hazel
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@gusty umbra Not correct. The angle should be between the pair of lines. Here <c is not between AB and AC. So your argument is wrong.

upper karma
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Can someone help me with trigonometry

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If u can even read my handwriting that is

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It's due today....

grave pond
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Is it correctly understood that all you have done so far is copy the problems verbatim to your own notepaper?

upper karma
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What.

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I don't understand what u said

grave pond
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I'm trying to figure out if there's any work of your own (other than penmanship) in the image you posted.

upper karma
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My teacher gave it to me. And I don't understand how to work it out, and the teacher won't help.

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None of the questions above are from me.

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It's from my teacher.

upper karma
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what is that bro lol

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...no help?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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Can anyone help?

grave pond
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Does your textbook at least contain statements of the law of sines and the law of cosines?

upper karma
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I'm sure.

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It does

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Troposphere

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Just froegt about it

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Nvm

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I can barely even understand u

grave pond
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Your teacher's handwriting is not terribly legible, but in context I suppose the squiggle at the top of (3) is supposed to say "use the law of sines" and (4) says "use the law of cosines".

upper karma
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I'll just deal with my punishment themadman

upper karma
grave pond
upper karma
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She wrote it

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On the board

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I copied it

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Cuz that's what we do.

upper karma
fierce shadow
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could u solve it?

upper karma
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-1/2

grave pond
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Amazing, that is indeed what the calculator says.

upper karma
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yeah

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lol

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actually this is from calculator lol

grave pond
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It doesn't seem at all obvious why it would be exact.

upper karma
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it looks better if we convert these sines into cos

sterile sail
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so we are going to make the red one 2:1 to the blue one, is there a quick method to find it?

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and the red one has to have the same form as the blue one

carmine marten
carmine marten
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<@&286206848099549185>

stark sentinel
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Your first step is to read the rules

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!15min

lime crownBOT
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Please only use the <@&286206848099549185> ping once if your question has not been answered for 15 minutes. Please do not ping or DM individual users about your question.

carmine marten
carmine marten
upper karma
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Please help ;-;

grave pond
# grave pond It doesn't seem at all obvious why it would be exact.

Okay, I have it. The bold diagonals that make up this 7-pointed star each have unit length, and the star is oriented such that A points due right. By the central angle theorem, angle EAD is pi/7, so the direction from E to A is pi/14 above the horizontal. Then the direction from E to B is 3pi/14, and the direction from F to B is 5pi/14. This means that the y-coordinate of A is sin(pi/14) above that of E, which is sin(3pi/14) below that of B, which is sin(5pi/14) above that of F.
The sought-for expression is therefore just the difference in y-coordinate between A and F, but by symmetry this is just half the length of CF, which was 1.

floral moon
# upper karma Please help ;-;

<TSE is 57 degrees, line ED is a tangent, ST is a chord. There is a theorem that says "the measure of the angle formed by a chord and a tangent is equal to half the measure of the intercepted arc". By the theorem, we can write this as 57 = x/2, multiply 2 on both sides, x = 114(A).

frail karma
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Where do Plane M and line K intersect? I don’t understand

slim tundra
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E

floral moon
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np

floral moon
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you could think of it like sticking a pencil(line k) through a piece of paper(plane M) and the hole formed would be where it intersects (point E)

exotic roost
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how do i solve for x

floral shale
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What do the dots mean

final yew
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those angles are equal obvio

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||use similar triangles DAF~ DBG => 14/(x+5)=x/24|| @exotic roost

grave pond
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Hmm, they don't look equal in the diagram.

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Diagrams are not required to be to scale, of course, but this looks unequal enough to warrant some doubt about the interpretation.

dark sparrow
gusty umbra
# carmine marten

For the buidling problem, you are given a rectangle, and on top of that rectangle is an isosceles triangle (if base angles are congruent, 30 degrees = 30 degrees, then the triangle is isosceles). As the base of the isosceles triangle and the width of the rectangle are equal (assumed from the diagram), the base of the isosceles triangle is 30 units. Now dropping an altitude in the isosceles triangle to form two 30-60-90 triangles and bisecting the base of an isosceles triangle (Dropping an altitude in an isosceles triangle bisects the base as the two triangles that are formed are congruent by AAS), it can be derived that the base of both 30-60-90 triangles is 15. Now to find the altitude of the isosceles triangle, the ratio Tan(60)= 15/x (x being the altitude)can be established, which yields 5 root 3 as x. The height of the structure is the height of the rectangle (22) plus the altitude (height) of the triangle (5 root 3), meaning that the answer is 22 + 5 root 3.

gusty umbra
# carmine marten

For the problem regarding the intersection of perpendicular sectors, the answer would be 14. Using the perpendicular bisector thm which states that the distances from any point on the perpendicular bisector to the line segment the perpendicular line segment lies on is equivalent allows us to distinguish that CD is 14. In this case, DG would be the perpendicular bisector, and the distances would be AD and DC, which are both equal as the thm states. AD = DC or CD would be equal to 14 as well.

jovial stag
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i’m really confused

coarse prism
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How is this possible?

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Both cos^2(B) and cos^2(A) must be equal to 1

floral shale
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Its a bit disguised in trigonometry voodoo but its a difference of squares

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You see if you let:
$$a = \sin{(A)}\cos{(B)}$$
$$b= \cos{(A)}\sin{(B)}$$

You'll notice that youll get the following phenomenon: $(a+b)(a-b)$. This is what you might recognize as the factored form of the difference between two squares. $(a+b)(a-b) = a^2 - b^2$, so if we just plug in we get your answer

somber coyoteBOT
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Umbraleviathan

floral shale
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yo @coarse prism you here bud

coarse prism
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Yh

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Everything was answered

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I just substituted cos^2(x) with 1-sin^2(x)

smoky jetty
smoky jetty
upper karma
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..thx ig

smoky jetty
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i hope it helps..

gusty umbra
# upper karma ..thx ig

Here for the 1st problem set up this ratio: Sin80/16 = Sin50/a (Just solve for a and u get c as well as it is an isosceles triangle if base angles are congruent then the triangle is isosceles)

upper karma
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Thanks

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Just didn't answer it

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I sent it to my teacher

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He was pissed

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Who cares Skill_issue

upper karma
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@upper karma basivally theres smth called the law of sines which lets u find a trianglws sides and angles

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so if that kinda problem comes up again or you wanna study for a test

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cuz in trig classes it tends to be used a bit

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hope all goes well for u in the class bro

wooden moon
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yo

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gn everyone

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i would like to know if in the triangle inequality theorem you can have c=a+x or just c<a+x

mighty trout
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if you had equality then you'd have a degenerate triangle aka a line

upper karma
pure birch
orchid pulsar
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<@&286206848099549185>

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I understand the fundamentl rules

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but these, i just cannot

gusty umbra
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@orchid pulsar For problem number 18, we must find the m<ACD which is 1/2 of the measure of minor arc ad by inscribed angle thm. Using the inscribed angle thm, we can derive the value of major arc ACD is 244 as the angle the measure of the inscribed angle that intercepts it is 122 (The measure of the intercepted arc is two times the measure of the inscribed angle that intercepts it). We know that the sum of non-overlapping arc measures in a circle is 360, so the equation 360-244 = arc ac can be established. From this equation, arc ac is 116 meaning that the inscribed angle that intercepts that arc ( angle ACD) is 58.

gusty umbra
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For problem number 19, we know the measure of angle OAR is 90 degrees as the angle subtended by the intersection of a radius and a tangent line (Im making the assumption the line is tangent) is 90 degrees. The measure of angle BAR is 1/2 the measure of arc BA, From the previous problem, we know Angle ACD is 58, so arc AD must be 116, which means that angle AOD is 116. As linear pairs are supplementary, angle AOB is 64 which means arc BA is also 64. As angle BAR is 1/2 the measure of BA, angle BAR is 32. Angle OAB = Angle OAR-Angle BAR = 90 - 32 = 58. So angle OAR is 58.

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For problem 20, BAR is 32 as derived in the explanation for problem 19.

gusty umbra
orchid pulsar
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Thank you @gusty umbra

somber coyoteBOT
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British people

gusty umbra
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280/30 = x sin(360+120)

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= 28/3 = x (Sin360Cos120 + Cos360Sin120)

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= 28/3 = x(Sin120)

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= 28/3 = x(Sin(60+60))

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=28/3 = x( Root 3/2)

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= 168root3/27 = x

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= 56root3/9 = x

bright rover
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How do I do this question ?

dense sierra
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hey hey, can someone explain me why this equalities happen that way by explaining the logic of it?

candid comet
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Sine is always positive in A,S (First and Second Quadrants).

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Cosine is always positive in A,C (First and Fourth Quadrants).

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This may have to do with the explaination.

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Also, Sine is an odd function and Cosine is an even function.

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So, cos(-x) = cos(x) and then sin(-x) = -sin(x).

sterile epoch
upper karma
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The question asks to find the missing endpoint given that R is the missing endpoint and S is the midpoint is T is another endpoint. For the co-ordinates of R, I am getting (-10, 0) however, the online homework grader is showing that this is wrong. May somebody please be willing to verify? Thanks.

silent plank
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read the question carefully

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specifically about which point is supposed to be the midpoint

pure birch
steel trout
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hi im confused on how to find k given these 2 equations can someone pls help

broken iron
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put s=10 and t= I6 in last equation

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since last equation is valid for 16<= t <=30

gusty umbra
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You can use the interpolation formula, mx2 + nx1/m +n = X and my2 + ny1/m+n = Y for points (5,2) and (12,-5). This will yield answers (9,-2) and (8,-1). Note that you must consider both (5,2) as (x1,y1) and (12,-5) as (x1,y1) as the 3:4 ratio can be split up both ways.

dense sierra
candid comet
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Has anyone done Euclid's book 7?

upper karma
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what do mathematicans call the power to ban someone from a server?
ban theta (mispelling of tan theta) LOOOOAOOAOAOOAL

mossy briar
lusty crane
broken nimbus
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4(4 - x) - 2(8 - y) = 8

16 - 4x - 16 - 2y = 8
4x - 2y = 8

what do I do after i've done this

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question:
"find the equation of line A under central symmetry in the point (2, 4)"
A = 4x - 2y = 8

strange robin
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y = 2x-4

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(x-2)2=y-4

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2x = y

broken nimbus
strange robin
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i just divided by two

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4x = 2y+8

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4x-8 = 2y

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2x-4 = y

broken nimbus
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so you just swap them around ?

strange robin
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um

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sure

broken nimbus
strange robin
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ye i dont know what axial symmetry is

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lol

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y= (2/7)x +2?

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idk

broken nimbus
strange robin
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wdym

broken nimbus
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4(4 - x) - 2(8 - y) = 8

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is that the right way to calculate iv

strange robin
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-4x +2y = 8

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2x+4 = y

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ig not

distant scarab
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The two points on the line 2x+3y+4 = 0 which are at a distance 2 away from the line 3x+4y-6=0 are
ans. (64,-44) and (4,-4) obtained thru point-line distance eqn.

When I tried to solve this without using the point-line distance eqn., I used a drawing similar to the one in the pic
Solving for the angle between the two lines using (M2-M1)((1+M2*M1)^-1) returns tan(theta) = 1/18

Assuming that the triangle was a right triangle, tan(theta) = Opposite/Adjacent, and that the opposite side was 2, scaling that would leave me with with a distance d of 36

However when checking against the actual answer (4,-4) with the intersection of the two lines at point (34,-24), I get a distance of 10sqrt13 or approx 36.05551275

Did I just draw the fig wrong or perhaps used the angle between two lines eqn wrong? What wrong assumption did I make? my brain hurts bruh

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oh wow nvm guys the right angle was on the opposite line

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thx

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Anal.Geom. is suffering

rapid flare
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Guys can anyone tell detailed solution:

How to find the volume of void between 4 unit spheres that touch each other

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@supple fern

supple fern
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I wasn't hired for this, I just redirected you to the more appropriate channel

mellow copper
mellow copper
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yea so it doesnt seem bounded by the spheres

sly halo
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Hello Everyone. Can anyone tell me if I'm on the right track with this?

rapid flare
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R equal spheres

mystic grotto
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Why am I not getting the same solution set when substituting 2sinxcosx with sin2x?

supple fern
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they might not give the same formulas

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but the points they generate should be the same

mystic grotto
supple fern
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so for example if a number has the form x = pi/3 + 2kpi/3 (left set) then it also must be in one of the four other forms from the right set