study-discussion

[royal basin]

and getting a B on calc isnt the end of the world tbh

ohhh so you did set time for the past exams at home?

[lament heath]

no but im certain it was in under half the time limit

[royal basin]

i see

tho i think it will be slightly different if you actually set a timer

[lament heath]

as in i did two papers to prep well within the time limit of the exam

[royal basin]

yea gotcha, but what i am saying is that i think that the same exams wouldve probably taken a bit more time if you have set a timer imo

its just that people get nervous/worry about time when they know there is a time limit

at least thats what happens with me lol

when i am in the exam i start looking at the clock every few mins at some point

[lament heath]

i dont because ive never had any problems with time before, at least in math
i have no idea what happened

[royal basin]

yea dw it happens to everyone

the most important thing is not to overreact

you just slipped this time, thats all there is to it

no need to worry too much

[lament heath]

slipping is not acceptable

if it happens once it can happen again

[lament heath]

ill try this next semester

[royal basin]

or maybe it can happen once to warn you for the next time haha

like once i was doing an entrance exam for a uni, i was very much comfortable with the material covered in the math exam but for some reason i got very nervous

i barely passed

i got a 64/100 or something ig

[lament heath]

i wish i actually passed out during the exam so that i could arrange a retake

[royal basin]

tho i didnt care about that entrance exam anyway because it was for faculty of engineering and i didnt want to get into it, just did the exam because my parents asked to me to do it in case i ever change my mind and want to do engineering

[lament heath]

but this shouldnt have been a big factor, i only lost a few minutes while dizzy enough to not focus on the questions
and calc isnt the sort of thing that should require 100% performance to do well in anyway

[royal basin]

yea i classify that as overreacting just like what i said in a previous message

[royal basin]

ohhh so you did get dizzy midway, well i mean you should tell yourself that you got a B because of that

[lament heath]

i dont think it was that significant

[royal basin]

i mean you did very well

[lament heath]

no, the appropriate response is to do better even accounting for unexpected factors

[royal basin]

sure, its good to look for doing better. But its bad to be depressed/overwhelmed by the fact that you got a B in calc (while you werent in top condition) which is not even a bad grade

[lament heath]

B is a very bad grade

B! thats three entire boundaries away from A

below the median even

thats not acceptable

i do think i should have failed the class, and so should have about half the cohort

[royal basin]

oh wait, how much is a B if you want to convert it into a grade /100

[lament heath]

no idea, it's curved

[royal basin]

ah i see

[lament heath]

assuming i scored 45 (very rough estimate) on the final that's 64 total

[royal basin]

i saw what you did there

[lament heath]

i think 45 is more accurate

[royal basin]

i saw what you deleted

[royal basin]

isnt B a passing grade tho

[lament heath]

but it's still bad

[royal basin]

yea but i mean the passing grade is usually >=50, so B shouldnt be 45

[lament heath]

^

[royal basin]

like C is also a passing grade from what ik and C is lower than B

nvm this conversion doesnt matter

[lament heath]

btw no way this is true for my classes because otherwise about 40% of the cs cohort would flunk out of the first semester

[royal basin]

the point is that nothing can be changed now, all you can do is try your best

dont go too hard on yourself

(and dont go too easy too)

[lament heath]

i think im going way too easy on myself

ty for the reminder

[royal basin]

yea i mean not sleeping or eating or whatever wont get you an A+

in fact this might get you a C because your health condition would be worse lol

so take it easy for now and enjoy the break

and after the break you make a come back

you can study in the break too if you feel like it, but dont do it as a punishment. Do it if you feel like you want to do it

[lament heath]

:c

i need to study in the break because otherwise ill never be good enough

other people are doing late undergrad classes before university

[royal basin]

[royal basin]

thats not the right way to think about it

[lament heath]

am i being delusional

[royal basin]

is that in dream land

[royal basin]

yes

[lament heath]

but this is true, this is the competition when im done with uni
by then they'll have done half the postgrad classes

[royal basin]

and?

they will have to go through a phd too

[lament heath]

they're the competition for entering a phd

[royal basin]

i mean if they have self studied that doesnt mean they will be allowed to bypass the uni's system lol

the uni might not allow them to take courses if they dont officially have the prereqs

well that could be bypassed with good relations with profs etc... ig and also probably depends on the uni

but either way, its a hard competition and nobody is denying that

you can even study in the break with this as a motivation too ig thats not wrong

just dont study in the break as a punishment

[lament heath]

i really do think i need punishment

i hate myself for being bad at everything

[royal basin]

if you study because you are forcing yourself then that wont be too effective lol

if you study something because you are enjoying you will most probably get out of it much more than studying because you are forced to do that

like in school there were many times when i didnt really want to study but i was kinda forced because if my mother sees me slacking off i would get into trouble

so i pretend to study when she is around and then when she is gone i open the phone and start playing

thats what i used to do lol

whereas i used to study math (and ofc i still do) without anyone telling me anything because i did enjoy that

so there is a difference

one way gives 0 results and the other is full of achievements

[foggy horizon]

If you were forced to play Minecraft or else you would get in trouble or fail an exam,Minecraft would suddenly not be so fun anymore

I wonder if there’s a parallel there with Mathematics

[royal basin]

i hate minecraft thats why if i am forced to play it then i will blow up all houses that the other player(s) is/are building with TNT

btw i used to do that with my brother and cousin

they used to build houses etc.. and i just blew them away with TNT

[lament heath]

i do enjoy math or i wouldn't have chosen to study it but i think i need to do a lot more to even be acceptably decent at it

[foggy horizon]

Or a similar way to think about it,If you were told that if you didn’t get an A in mathematics you would get abducted by Mark Zuckerberg and he would dangle you in a cage over a boiling pot of sweet baby rays,The only thing you could think of isn’t the math,but the fact that if you don’t get an A you’ll be dangled over a boiling pot of sweet baby rays by mark Zuckerberg

Which would be too stressful to think about mathematics

[lament heath]

but you would get an A in mathematics

[royal basin]

ik that you enjoy math, you might not enjoy doing calc again over the break tho because you might like to study other things in math

[foggy horizon]

Oh I see

[royal basin]

do more, just spend your time in the right place

[lament heath]

i think immediate punishments are much more useful btw

[foggy horizon]

Yes,but what if you dreaded that happening and it was all you could think of? And not the math

[lament heath]

like immediately getting an electric shock for doing unapproved activities during study time

[foggy horizon]

I don’t know much about that topic to speak on it

[lament heath]

i want something like that but i dont want to spend money

[royal basin]

you more fit to be an investigator ngl

[lament heath]

wdym

[foggy horizon]

If you don’t get an A you will be abducted in a UFO by Mark Zuckerberg. And he will put you in a cage and dangle it over a boiling pot of sweet baby rays

So get to it

[royal basin]

what came to mind is the following scenario: you are investigating a prisoner and he doesnt cooperate so you use electric shocks immediately

[lament heath]

it's a psychology thing, consistent and immediate punishment is generally more effective

[royal basin]

(jk)

[foggy horizon]

Oh

[royal basin]

if that was annoying then sorry

[foggy horizon]

How do you personally go about with exercises in textbooks?

[lament heath]

yep! as opposed to several days later

[foggy horizon]

Yes

[royal basin]

i am not sure that i understand the question (if you were asking me)

[foggy horizon]

Do you go through the reading part up to the exercises and do those before moving on?

[lament heath]

you do those you dont see the answers for immediately

[lament heath]

pretty much yea

[foggy horizon]

Ok

[royal basin]

yea, usually each section has exercises but other books have exercises at the end of a chapter instead of a section which is more annoying

[foggy horizon]

Yeah

Do you read the section over and over again until you understand it?

[royal basin]

usually i read everything until the exercises (ofc not just reading like reading novels)

[royal basin]

i usually dont move on before understanding the section

sometimes i do if i just cant quite understand some theorem etc.. at the moment

[foggy horizon]

Like the whole chapter,then exercises?

[royal basin]

yea

this is kinda bad tho

[foggy horizon]

I see

[lament heath]

arguably youre reading novels ineffectively at least according to woolf

[foggy horizon]

How do you judge your own assertions? I don’t have a professor to probe the plombles I solve for mistakes

[royal basin]

i usually ask on the server

[foggy horizon]

When you’re checking your proof for example

[royal basin]

i also search for solution manuals

you can find solution manuals for many subjects up to a certain level

[foggy horizon]

I see

[royal basin]

after that it will be harder and harder to find such things

[foggy horizon]

Without the solutions or a server,and just the paper and you,How do you investigate them?

[rocky terrace]

You slowly get better at gauging whether a proof you've written is correct or not

[royal basin]

but either way since you have this server then it doesnt matter if there is a solution manual or no

[rocky terrace]

if it's especially complex, then you can also ask someone else to check your work

[foggy horizon]

That’s exciting to hear

When did you first feel comfortable with proofs?

[royal basin]

well, you will gain an intuition with time as neamesis said

[rocky terrace]

Hard to say, there wasn't a day where I just woke up and was like "omg I can write proofs now!"

It was gradual

it took several months

[foggy horizon]

What exactly is an intuition?

[rocky terrace]

Probably more

[lament heath]

after about a semester of consistent practice

[foggy horizon]

Ok 👍

[rocky terrace]

For example if I tell you "two planes intersecting will produce a straight line(if both the planes aren't equal)" you can intuitively understand it

[royal basin]

but still no need to imagine yourself in a hypothetical situation with nothing other than your mind to check the correctness of your proofs

because you actually have other ways to check

[rocky terrace]

Yeah but you have to actively work on it, just like anything

[foggy horizon]

Oh yeah

[foggy horizon]

Of course

[normal sleet]

For me its a gut feel of how things behave

Over time as you see more examples, your gut feel is reinforced or gets corrected, either way it'll hopefully get more and more accurate

[foggy horizon]

Cool

What about translating your scratch work into formal English for the final write up?

[normal sleet]

Then you can say "well intuitively this is true, everything i know agrees with it"

[normal sleet]

What about it

[foggy horizon]

I presume that also comes with intuition,which comes from practice? But I didn’t know if there was any other advice

[normal sleet]

Yeah but to get better at writing you should also read others' writing

[foggy horizon]

When did you feel comfortable doing it?

[normal sleet]

If you think its good, you can emulate

[rocky terrace]

Yeah you can develop an intuition for anything if you practice it enough and see enough examples

[foggy horizon]

Oh that makes sense

[normal sleet]

Probably a few months too

But my writing style changed significantly over time

I got lazier so I write more and more tersely

Lol

[foggy horizon]

Yes

How long have you guys been writing proofs?

[normal sleet]

Years

Like 5 years

And i still have room for improvement

[foggy horizon]

That’s cool

Thank you guys for your help

[rocky terrace]

Not long enough

[foggy horizon]

What do you mean?

[dusky glade]

Advice: when writing proofs, clarity is a good sign of correctness (if it's not clear what you're doing, there's likely some mistake/false assumptions)

[lilac musk]

suggest me some where i can understand orthogonality and projections a lil better i get stuck in problems.

[normal sleet]

Chapter 5 of linear algebra done wrong (which is available for free on author's website) has a nice presentation on these topics

[dusky glade]

Sorry to be late to the conversation, but saying that punishment is necessary seems like the person chose to procrastinate freely, which in your case is false... 🤔

In my eyes, beginning to study is a matter of setting expectations low enough that starting does not trigger resistance. Because I don’t think scrolling or something means you need punishment. Most of the time it means the plan you set was too rigid or too ambitious. So if starting feels heavy, your brain avoids it.

So it's like:
Unrealistic expectations → emotional resistance

Resistance → avoidance

Avoidance → scrolling

Scrolling → guilt

Guilt → punishment

Punishment → more resistance next time

Instead of "study 1 hour", you could do "study for 10 minutes", or "read 1 page". More often than not the flow will carry you forward. At least that's what I think...

[edgy sierra]

4 hours of bashing my head against the wall everyday for 3 months trying to figure out theorem proofs

(i had to look at the solutions in about half of them)

but some of them had incomplete solutions so i tried to fill in gaps

[foggy horizon]

What did you use to study them?

And what course are you on now? Can you do those proofs more comfortably compared to as a beginner?

And how long have you been doing this mathematics?

[edgy sierra]

pdfs

[edgy sierra]

topology and yes

[edgy sierra]

around a year

[foggy horizon]

That’s cool

[lime vapor]

hi:3

happy.new.year.in.advanced

[boreal jay]

Hello does anyone use anki for uni math?

esp real analysis

was wondering if anyone can check mine

[misty vale]

i use it

[glacial raven]

Informative

https://math.stackexchange.com/a/29962

[jade furnace]

This feels like unsubtle foreshadowing to calculus, to the point where it feels like it could be considered calculus.

[green terrace]

You could solve this with calculus but you can definitely do it algebraically too

[jade furnace]

I just solved it by factoring. How do you solve it with calculus? Is it just finding the derivative of both functions?

[torn olive]

Obviously "solve it with calculus" is not a well defined thing but like

I don't see a solution which would be classified as solving with calculus

other than if you wanted to say "you have to consider zeroes, asymptotes, and removable discontinuities in calculus therefore solving this is solving with calculus" which clearly isn't in the spirit of what solving with calculus could mean

[edgy sierra]

like l'hopital's rule?

they require limits

[viscid spruce]

does anyone want a free math class ?

[storm tide]

It had better be a proper class.

[viscid spruce]

i just want to practice in my math english and you will get a free lesson, its a good deal

[dusky glade]

You can check out language exchange websites or just tutor mathematics @viscid spruce

[scenic shuttle]

since you’re practicing math english, the help channels might be a good place to do that

people ask math questions there all the time

[glacial raven]

Can anyone recommend good YouTube channels for math from basics to Jee mains level? I prefer channels that teach very thoroughly.

[tawdry flint]

What do you want to learn

Khan Academy is great for precalc/prealg/algebra

And there are some other guys like Eddie Woo does Calc and I think algebra too

Organic chemistry tutor has some nice videos about prealg and alg too

[paper whale]

It’s not exactly JEE focused, but I really recommend Professor Leonard. You can start at his pre algebra playlist and work your way up to his statistics playlists. They’re very in depth. I know he uses textbooks that you can use as guides for following his videos

Plus he’s really good at explaining concepts in nice, simple ways. I’ve used Khan academy before and I personally wouldn’t recommend it, but if it works for you, go ahead! Personally, I find that Khan academy takes a long time to get through concepts, and the problem sets they offer aren’t what you’d see in actual exams, so I’d recommend actually doing practice exams or textbook questions

[paper whale]

I second Organic Chem tutor

[glacial raven]

Probability ,p & c , algebra , coordinate geometry , calculus and trigonometry

[glacial raven]

ohh i was also looking for pre alegebra classes thank you

[glacial raven]

thank you

[glacial raven]

although i have learn all the topics of class 11 and 12 but these are most important ones i guess

[tawdry flint]

What level are you at right now.

Continue in #book-recommendations

[deep dirge]

also might find more relevant to jee in their discord

[glacial raven]

@rigid sorrel

Thank you for the suggestion.

I said it here because that channel was dedicated to Analysis.

So they said no other discussions there.

[lost drum]

what are you're goals

of math studying ?

What's the ultimate cause for all goals in mathematics ?

[vernal condor]

Increasing brain mass

[lost drum]

That also would'nt work maybe

[vernal condor]

Isnt it the same as Jelking ?

[lost drum]

maybe

With sin(x)

[vernal condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-gotcha-finger-guns-gif-17948078

[lost drum]

really what's the ultimate cause ?

[vernal condor]

Oh im not the original person that asked for the subject recommendations so idk

[lost drum]

for me It's about prooving maximum

inside the mathematical ocean .

It's in training ourselfs with the prooves from the beginigs to the ends .

[vernal condor]

Are you self taught ?

[lost drum]

no

[vernal condor]

For me its the autistic urge to just spam calc questions / problems

Calculus is beautiful

[lost drum]

yes

[lost drum]

I never seen

the beaty of calculus

[vernal condor]

You gotta be blind ?

jk jk

What else is there other than calculus ?

Calculus is both complex, elegant and has real world applications you cant find another thing with all these qualities in maths

[lost drum]

Of course,

We have a habit to do calculus not with pictures

but in a sort of a conventional symbolism .

In the world applications calculus was one of the most phenomenal

But in the conventional logical system it was a daily boring routine

for students in university .

[vernal condor]

hmmmm i feel like i didnt like maths until calculus

calculus is the only reason im interested in maths tbf

a lot of calculus is still unknown and there is still a lot to push with theory

most other math disciplines have reached their limit unless you are talking about some extremely abstract things that have no real world applications

[lost drum]

Yes ,

Me I beleive that the universe of mathematics in 21 century is one

without domains

everything inside everything

and logics was the central queen of all the mathematical empire .

[lost drum]

@vernal condor If mathematics was woman

I will ask to marry her .

🥳 🥳

and If I could in my wedding maybe I will invite all looking like perverse mathematicians in our wedding .

Timo and "mathematics ".

and thank's to the community :terence tao , euclid , spongebob , eric cartman ,rowan atkinson :mr bean , emma watson,einstein ,tsu nzu ,euler..

[foggy horizon]

It would call the police on me 😢

[green terrace]

Why would women call the cops on you unless you were, oh I don't know, being abusive or harassing to women

[edgy sierra]

differential equations and complex analysis

[rocky terrace]

Bro is abusing/harassing mathematics

[edgy jetty]

calculus gives me a headache

[misty thicket]

Go to the dentist

Calculus could also mean dental tartar

[edgy jetty]

Dental tartar

[lost drum]

So what's the most benificial thing to do in math ?

With a great variety of tasks and their solutions and taking them note you will find a big collection of methods of solving

and with many solutions you will inrich you're mathematical ideas .

and sometimes a group of exemples generalised gives a mathematical concept .

and with prooves that satisfieses you there's knowledj of the why of things you will not learn blindly them so you will know them .

and with repitition things will be installed in you're memory of knowledj and skills and with leting it it can go over .

and with raisonating in schemas and pictures it can have more advantages like speed and understanding fast and revealing aspects ..that the formal way was hard to recognise and the formal way has also other advantages that pictural does'nt have .

So what's you're tips ?

[dusky glade]

Idk if this answers your question, but doing a lot of problems helps to build your mathematical toolbox. I feel like you can't really come up with something unless you've seen an analogue of it before.

[sterile totem]

@glacial raven

So explain again.

Can you call?

Going to give you the biggest hype up for theoretical physics.

So I self study machine learning infrastructure and GPU optimization full-time - basically become a specialist developing and speeding up the systems that power modern AI. Right now, I am on day 1 of a schedule I created of linear algebra, calculus, probability, then C++, CUDA, Triton kernels, computer science course from MIT OpenCourseWare, Harvard Online, Stanford Online, distributed training and quantitative finical modeling for GPU ROI.

My goal is to intern at NVIDIA by the time I turn 16. I am doing it because I love mathematics and AI, despite me being in algebra 1, I didn't care lol!

[barren bane]

cuda is fun

[sterile totem]

Based opinion.

Way better then doom scrolling social media lol!

[barren bane]

my gpus are underutilized

[rocky terrace]

My brain is underutilized

[glacial raven]

Real

[dusky glade]

How to keep studying when things are hard? I can study math pretty easily when I understand something, because it gives me a lot of momentum 🔥. But when the material gets really difficult, idk how to progress😐. It doesn't help that I can't meet with professors in office hours or anything... All the work I do is through self study.🤔

The current solution I have is to just do nothing for 1 day, and when I feel hungry for more math, I start doing it. But this takes a lot of time, and being bored the whole day is not fun 😐

And no, I'm not in a toxic relationship with math. I just feel like more should be possible

[sterile totem]

Listen, last night I had no idea what linear algebra was. Today I went from vectors to hyper-tuning dimensions to SSR's. I just explained what linear algebra was to a 13 year old. For me, removing the numbers.

Remove the numbers. Think abstractly. Ask the "why" questions.

What if I transform this, what if I flip this etc..

[lament heath]

hiiiii

[dusky glade]

🤔 hmmm. Also hi

[sterile totem]

Hello!

[sterile totem]

What topics were difficult?

[dusky glade]

I'm learning newtons method to solve nonlinear equations in Rn, but idk man, I just feel this friction in my mind

I'm trying to think more globally. What even counts as "satisfying amount of work done"? Is aiming for ambitious goals inherently harmful? Is it even possible to "get the best of both worlds" in math; being both a high achiever and emotionally satisfied? Idk. I'll have to take some time philosophizing 🤔

[sterile totem]

In math it will feel difficult, you will want to quit, and you think the greatest mathematicians didnt think that? They did, what separated them from the rest was commitment, learning, never giving up. Your first win in math is trying again after giving up. Most people will avoid to do hard things, which why you can literally be most people by just trying.

The willingness to think in hyper-dim spaces, face the hard stuff, and think like a mathematician will help you understand math in ways you didnt think of.

[rocky terrace]

Ask someone in mathcord to explain it to you

The difficult concepts that you don't understand

[dusky glade]

Idk what to ask bro 😭.

Hmmm hold on . There must be a way

[sterile totem]

Who ever said math is easy? Quitting is optional, which is why people quit. But, what if quitting wasnt an option?

I love this saying, "if you dont fail you're not even trying."

[dusky glade]

Seems similar to this quote

[sterile totem]

Dont look at mathematics like a plug in number game, mathematics isnt about numbers.

Never was about numbers. Never will be.

Its mainly about ideas, patterns and structures.

[dusky glade]

In my eyes, doing hard work all comes down to my psychology. If I'm down for it, I could just bust out a math text on Tokyo tower and start doing some exercises (yes I've actually done that). But when I'm not, nothing will motivate me to do so. So what this really tells me, is that I need to understand myself more. Why do I pursue mathematics?. What do I find so enjoyable in it?. Why do I work hard?

I'll also have to adjust my expectations a bit. I want to feel hungry to learn, not feel resistance to do so.

[sterile totem]

Do you know who is stopping you?

[dusky glade]

Wdym who?

Me?

[sterile totem]

Your head.

[lament heath]

SSR as in single-scale retinex?

[sterile totem]

Sum squared Residuals, measuring how far your model predicts your actual data points.

[lament heath]

oh okie

[sterile totem]

After learning about linear algebra, I cannot look at images or anything containing pixels the same.

lol

[dusky glade]

I guess I'll go write my math blog 😂.

[lament heath]

sotrue

[foggy horizon]

This makes me excited for linear algebra

[lament heath]

my first exposure to linalg was also computer vision

[foggy horizon]

How did you study computer vision?

[lament heath]

started from an elective in hs

[foggy horizon]

They teach that? Cool

[lament heath]

gonna have dinner+

[sterile totem]

@lament heath Question, my friend said this was multivariable calculus and undergraduate linear algebra, is that true? I was so hyper focused on it, I just conceptualized it as patterns and the way a computer measures model predictions from your actual data points. I have no idea why this isnt taught in highschool.

The image.

[sterile totem]

Its awesome.

[foggy horizon]

Do you prove more than you compute? I didn’t know just how theory heavy undergrad level linear algebra was

[sterile totem]

Every time I look at my monitor I just imagine matrices and eigenvectors. My math teacher said you cant learn Spanish 3 from Spanish 1 and I said meet you there.

[sterile totem]

I focused more on theoretical reasoning and proving theorems and minimal calculations.

if that was truly multivariable calculus and undergrade algebra, that was so cool to understand intuitive and think like a machine.

[sterile totem]

I swear, recently my thinking has changed. Like I always ask people for more details than usual and precision.

[foggy horizon]

That sounds fun

Keep going

[lament heath]

span and eigenvectors were definitely in high school for me
i had to retake it in university because i forgot to sign up for placement tests though

[sterile totem]

Wish my highschool had that.

I am in Algebra 1 because my middle school didnt offer higher math classes then whats required by law.

They wont let me test into AP calculus BC, not like its going to stop me. Because its on kahn academy lol.

[lament heath]

are you going to take the exam?

[sterile totem]

They wont let me.

But, I dont take no for answer.

Biggest Jason ku fan even though I only watched 20 minutes of the material.

[lament heath]

not affiliated with your school

you can sign up directly btw

[sterile totem]

Hm.

I will give it another shot.

I dont want to annoy my guidance counselor too much lol.

[lament heath]

i think you can book it yourself on ap collegeboard (but it'll probably be much more expensive ;-;)

[sterile totem]

Well.

[sterile totem]

My mother wants to support me so she paid for a yearly subscription for coursera.

So just coursera and math 4 hours every day.

[lament heath]

oh wow :0

[lament heath]

should i do leetgpu

[sterile totem]

All this education.

[sterile totem]

Yes.

However theres a nuance to it.

[rocky jetty]

math majors?

[sterile totem]

You need to have a high - expert level in GPU architecture, C++ CUDA basics, and strong algorithm skills for GPU programming.

[sterile totem]

I recommend watching these videos for that;

All you need for now.

And of course.

Linear algebra.

[lament heath]

thank you! ill try to get a background in gpu computing and analysis of algorithms

[sterile totem]

What I am specializing in, is programming GPUs to power modern AI systems or otherwise known as ML infra engineering. Its really cool to explore.

[barren bane]

I did this professionally some time ago

[sterile totem]

I would learn quantitative analysis for finance knowledge for GPU ROI calculations. But thats just a me thing. Its not required at all.

[lament heath]

you would love talking to my girlfriend

im not as into ml infra

she does HPC!!!

[barren bane]

hpc is fun

[sterile totem]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-elite-elite-ball-elite-ball-knowledge-ball-knowledge-gif-9337371460101398527

[rocky jetty]

suppose u have a 30 hours course about smth u dont know much about, lets say a maths course, would u take only ~30 hours to finish it, with a good understanding and some intuition?!

[sterile totem]

Probably 35 - 40 hours. But, completing a math course the fastest doesnt help you.

Depth over speed.

[lament heath]

i think it really depends on how much prereq knowledge you're missing

[sterile totem]

5 - 10 hours of critical thinking, problem solving, and this is just assuming their caring of the education there reviewing.

[rocky jetty]

yeah it depends heavily on that, and ofc im assuming u have the required prereqs,

[sterile totem]

Hm.

[lament heath]

probably 30 hours then? since you're going in with the expected knowledge beforehand

[sterile totem]

Are you planning to take this 30 hour course?

[rocky jetty]

35-40 stills in the neighberhood of 30 "~30"

[sterile totem]

Assuming he knows everything in the course beforehand and can comprehend the material without having to pause or search concepts up. Not saying you cant, but just one thing that your fuzzy on could be 15 minutes to hours of understanding.

First ML course, they mentioned gaussian distributions and statistics, I had to watch an hour of Prof. Leonard on integrals and how to find the area underneath a curve just because I wouldn't understand the rest of the course lol.

[rocky jetty]

u didnt study maths? or u wanted ML before u wanted Mahts

[lament heath]

my experience attending a graduate ai class every other week this semester

[sterile totem]

Limits really stood out to me.

[sterile totem]

Ooh.

I am in algebra 1 in highschool. But self studying higher level mathematics for ML / GPU Research and engineering.

Powering modern AI systems is so cool to me.

[lament heath]

yes!!!

[rocky jetty]

aha i see, thats cool, keep it up

lets take linear algebra as an example, the end point is similarity, ofc i assume you know some group theory, then how much would it take u to complete that 30 hours course, im inludeing problems, and u have the choice videos or well detailed lecture notes or book,

[sterile totem]

Im off to bed.

Goodnight!

[sterile totem]

I added you btw. If that ok

[lament heath]

i'm sorry

[sterile totem]

@swift hawk Thanks for helping me with SSR’s even though that was not basic haha.

[sterile totem]

?

[swift hawk]

you're welcome

[edgy sierra]

some are proof some are calculation

abstract linear algebra is especially proof-heavy

[edgy sierra]

it depends on the major i guess

[edgy sierra]

it takes 10 hours of exercises to effectively learn any conccept

intuition takes a bit more

[rocky jetty]

how many concepts are there in a first course in linear algebra

[tawdry flint]

Depends on what the book covers

[faint flame]

Any tips for studying proofs?

Lineair algebra specifically

Like I am allowed to use my notes during the exam, but I can't just copy the proofs because the exam questions are gonna be "Show that you could have proved this a different way using this method" etc.

And then you have calculus where you can't use your notes and you just have to know the proofs

[rocky terrace]

Practice proving things

it could be some theorem or lemma from the book/notes you're following some small statement that you use in a proof

Try proving different things

if you're stuck, ask someone how to proceed

[faint flame]

Alright I'll try

Thank you

[edgy sierra]

study the proof techniques, read/review other proofs and once you see a proof, rewrite it in your own way so you internalize the content

[lost drum]

For me in everything it's all about knowing the truth

Objectively then working with the truth .

and all failure is in following the falsity .

Because when you know what certainly will benifit you if you did it and you did it

so following the truth is the most certain way to be in accordance with the truth that you followed for that the truth will be realised ,all looses and failures were in falsity .

It's only with the truth that you will succed .

[dusky glade]

Hmmm 🤔, I'm not sure if I understand, but I think I figured it out. I was able to study for 50 minutes guilt free when it's almost midnight. I'll write about what I realized in my blog tomorrow, if anyone is at all interested 🤣

Thanks again, @sterile totem and @rocky terrace !

[lost drum]

I mean : “Great victory comes from following the manifest truth—that is, knowing it and acting upon it—until it serves and fulfills your goal.with the knowledj that it fullfils truly you're goal "

Without truth, the matter is impossible. For truth encompasses the reality of all worlds.

and the most knowledjer is the one who knows the truth than all people when they were different and he summed the knowledj'es of all others into his knowledj .

But that was hard because the truth was often hated and detested..

[lost drum]

like if there's 20 people :1rst has x1 knowledj , 2nd has x2 knowledj ...20th has xp knowledj ,x1,x2...xp>0

and the knowledjer has b knowledj when he summed

(x1+x2+x3....xp+b)knowledj >the knowledj of everyone .

and with the number of questions there are answers .

and with repitition and training there's acquisition .

and there's 3 conditions for acquiring knowledj So1/ it must me prooved so you knew why it was truth , 2/intelligible and adapted to you so it will be completely adapted to you're mental capacitites 3/ memorised so you will not forget.

[lost drum]

So what's understanding to you ?

what it means that you understood a math concept ?

I have an advice make it more concrete by writing it down and think in paper

about it .

there a a number of propositions that you knew and beetween them there's logical connectors : no ,and ,implie ..

so deconstruct the complex proposition that you dont know in function of propositions that you know and beetween them with thouse connections : and ,or ,no ,implication , equivalence .

so if the deconstruction is well done and all primitive propositions are well defined .

and propositions are better to be written only in a formal way to avoid ambiguity .

I mean not to use english or french or german ..

but more what is appropriate to the language of mathematics .

If you did it then what are you not being satisfied ?

[jade furnace]

I got a Precalculus book for Christmas, and I'm going through it while doing Khan Academy.

I'm realizing how much I'm getting the signs wrong.

That last problem I did taught me a lot, though. It did take a while to do, but I learned more about intervals and solving absolute value problems than I thought I would.

[lost drum]

Congradulation .

[jade furnace]

Thank you!

I actually never took a precalculus class before.

It was actually trigonometry that I took (technically twice since college made me take it again).

So this is the first time I'm learning it.

[lost drum]

|x-a|=r it's equivalent x belong ]a-r:a+r[

[lost drum]

That's easy

do many tasks .

[jade furnace]

Doing many practice problems is how I finally remembered some formulas.

[rocky jetty]

the key to mastering maths is yes doing problems, but careful here, our gaol is not to remember formulas, try to understand the problem in hand, make ur own problems, prove statements that look correct, answer true/false questions ...

[rocky terrace]

Our goal is to sell out and become a quant

[tame goblet]

Get a good understanding of functions

Did you take a class on proofs

[lost drum]

Prooves ? ,1/think in paper and divide it into many parts

and rewrite it and explain it for yourself while completing it's missing parts.

proove it's constitutive propositions and work a lot about it to reorganise all ideas in paper .

continue doing that until you have complet certainty and clarity and exactness about the proove .

and rewrite it next and summarize it and reapply it a lot .

also ask many questions and do commentaries like you're the self teacher of yourself who adapt it to the weakest student who has a lot of weaknesses and take new key ideas from it , that works for you because the more you take the tools of the most underestimated abilities people it will be much comfortable and easyer for you .but if you take the tools of thouse who were much superior to you it can be hard .

And revise you're courses of logics and quantiifiers

maybe you dont know what you dont know .

[dusky glade]

Memes go to #chill

[jade furnace]

Oh… I didn’t know they were forcing me to recall that.

I also managed to find my first error in the answer sheet.

[clear sentinel]

Question; if I'm utterly horrible at mathematics (grade 6 MS level at best) what should I do to improve in as little time as I can?
For more context, I'm currently a freshman in high school, and I have a new found love for math, and a deep desire to learn more about it.

[jade furnace]

How much pre-algebra/algebra do you know?

[clear sentinel]

The very, very bare bones basics

[jade furnace]

Try an Algebra 1 problem on Khan Academy. If that's too hard, go down to 8th Grade and so on so forth.

[clear sentinel]

I'm actually on Khan Academy right now, that's why I'm saying 'grade 6 MS level at best'

that's where it gets hard for me to solve problems/excersizes

do you recommend just slowly moving up from Khan Academy grade 6 or doing something else entirely?

[jade furnace]

Khan Academy is a good free resource.

If you want more training, you can find textbooks/workbooks online.

But I think Khan Academy is a good start.

Also, Khan Academy's math does have a difficulty spike at 6th grade especially from my experience. It's a lot of new concepts and it's where it actually starts getting into prealgebra concepts, from my experience.

[serene fulcrum]

I know this server trashes chat gippity, but I feel like 5.2 (released 2 weeks ago) is actually a great study aid for content that goes up to early grad level math. It can do nearly most such problems with pretty decent accuracy, and when it does make mistakes, they're almost always pretty easy to spot. So it's amazing for brainstorming solutions at the undergrad-to-early grad level. Hell, spotting the mistake and asking it to fix it ends up working most of the time. (Do not blindly copy and paste still, it does make mistakes pretty often)

Also, it gives you feedback on how to study. You can often ask it questions like "Should I memorize this proof?" Or "Should I write out a full proof for this exercise?" Or "Should I be able to do this proof in my head?" for a wide range of canonical books and get an in-depth answer.

And lastly, you can submit the proofs you write and get feedback on style and even some correctedness. It's not bad. I can't make a better assessment than that cus my proofs suck. But it helped me make a few proofs less superfluous and also flow better. It also spotted a few minor mistakes.

Tl;dr: chatgippity 5.2 actually great for textbook math. No it obviously still can't do research math to save its own life. Or maybe it can? I asked it if it could do algebraic geometry and it told me that it solved an open problem in algebraic geometry this month. But it can't do research the way humans can .

[serene fulcrum]

No im just writing a review

I figured why not

[jovial sparrow]

The only issue is that brainstorming solutions to problems is just offloading the work that it is important the student does

However I have found use recently in LLMs as basically a math spellcheck, as they're pretty good at finding errors in reasoning (though sometimes are still wrong)

Also for finding interesting examples or applications of certain results it can be nice

I've started basically just plugging in any theorem I see into an llm and asking for applications and often you'll see some cool stuff that isn't mentioned in the textbook I'm using or w/e

[reef ocean]

oh yeah I use it a bunch for this

[serene fulcrum]

You're right. While I was impressed by how well at brainstormimg it performed, what excited me most was actually the ability to get feedback on how to study. I feel like I'm learning a lot about myself and my learning style as I ask it questions about metacognition while I read or do exercises. It's almost like having a decently abled mathematician as a live tutor.

I think in the future wrt to studying it'll be particularly helpful for people who self-study and for people who need to gamify their studying. Like, people who need constant feedback loops.

[clear sentinel]

So Khan Academy is adequate enough for now, okay?
Just slowly clearing courses and going up the difficulty should be enough then, great, thank you!

[tawdry goblet]

Nice, I really love your pfp, it has a cute plushie :3

[brazen mist]

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[twilit mason]

did this one get handled or did the offender self delete

[brazen mist]

same spammer as in #book-recommendations

[twilit mason]

ah i see, thanks

[tawdry goblet]

How can I combat dysfunctional perfectionism, please help 🙁

[quick elk]

if it's so great, why is this post so not

[dusky glade]

May I ask what exactly is bothering you? Idk if there is a general cure 😕

[tawdry goblet]

Like, I have this need for having perfect written notes, perfect route of learning like math and perfect recomendations for books, it's exhausting and I do little progress

It's not a disease, just a bad thinking pattern

[wet drum]

does anyone do work on a paperlike ipad screen protector is it better for memory retentiom

[dusky glade]

I feel like to some extent not getting the perfect route from the beginning is inevitable. I also used to obsess over these, but since I like doing math, not thinking about math, I just moved on

[kindred torrent]

Not geometry, not continuousness Think about the math of why the shape looks like this

[lament heath]

how to make myself do things consistently

[foggy horizon]

If you don’t do it you will be abducted in a UFO by Mark Zuckerberg and he will dangle you in a cage over a boiling pot of sweet baby rays.

So get to it! 😡

[lament heath]

i hope boiling water helps

[foggy horizon]

No,only sweet baby rays

Do you have a frog in your brain that practices Mongolian throat singing when you try to study?

And you tell it to take a break for a second so you’re not distracted. But the little guy just doesn’t stop 🛑

[lament heath]

fifthworldproblems

[brittle token]

[normal sleet]

Mine plays the silksong OST

Bilewater theme and Shellwood theme

[foggy horizon]

Interesting 🤔

[brazen mist]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-boss-fight-groal-gif-4168072793694261699

[lament heath]

r/fifthworldproblems (in response to ?)

[rocky terrace]

Develop discipline

Now how do you develop discipline? That's what I'm trying to figure out

Actually I already know the answer, I'm just struggling to put it into practice

[foggy horizon]

If you don’t study hard then I will personally come to your house and once again let you know that you will be abducted in a UFO by Mark Zuckerberg and dangled in a cage over a boiling pot of sweet baby rays
(For the 100,000th time)

So get to it! 😡

[unborn flame]

Iam looking for math and cs study partners, dm me!

[dusky glade]

What are you studying ?

[scenic shuttle]

do you work and study at the same time?

[scenic shuttle]

that sucks actually idk how do ppl manage to do this

I have a few friends who does that and they're lowkey awful

[rocky terrace]

awful as in they're awful people or awful at managing work and studies?

[compact fjord]

thank god i dont have to do these.

[rocky terrace]

Maybe you should thank L as well

[scenic shuttle]

awful in everything and dying to just attend their job

they used to skip a lot classes and ended up failing

[scenic shuttle]

same 🤝

[lost drum]

Hi

[wet drum]

does anyone use their ipad for studying? i use collanotes but the ads for premium r rlu annoyinh primarily use my ipad to do maths x are there any free apps with graph pages and stuff

[foggy horizon]

I just put all my stuff in the notes app on my phone and that seems to work pretty well. As for the graph pages I’m not entirely sure,but maybe something like desmos could work

If there’s notation I don’t have in my notes but need for math,I just grab the copy pastes off Google (Thank you coolempire83 for that)

[wet drum]

i use the notes app for mainly definitions and stuff and concepts but i find it annoying how i cant zoom in so i do exercises on collanote 😭😭

its so annoying cause the buy premium ad keeps popping up

[scenic shuttle]

I use note+ and it has a lot stuff into it

desmos, wolfram, etc...

[tawdry flint]

I like excalidraw for simple diagrams and desmos geometry and graphing tools. Although it may be less sophisticated than what OP wants ig

I put all my notes on obsidian using a philosophy called Conceptual Notetakin (yt/chris pomeroy got me into this philosophy although I modified a little)

[wet drum]

wait does desmos have like a feature where i can write onto it??

[wet drum]

ill have a look at it!

[scenic shuttle]

hmm not really no but you could ss the graph you want and drag it into your notes

I'll share some samples if you wanna see

[wet drum]

i installed excalidraw and this is so amazing do you know if i can change the page from a blank one to one w grids?

[foggy horizon]

That’s fair,Notes can be limited sometimes

[tawdry flint]

There is a toggle grid option

[wet drum]

wait how do i turn it on lol

[tawdry flint]

Go to the menu on the top left and use the command pallete

[wet drum]

Is it available on ipad??

[tawdry flint]

Idk I use it on pc

But it should be there

In some sort of settings

[wet drum]

Whoops

Ill have a look at it thanks though! this was what i was looking for lol thanks

[tawdry flint]

Cool. It should be somewhere though

[unreal mulch]

Do you use excalidraw inside or outside obsidian?

[tawdry flint]

I am not a fan of the extension. I copy paste images

[unreal mulch]

I see, I see.

[tawdry flint]

I like keeping my obsidian setup simple. Also in my experience, the plugin causes a little Performace downbuff

[compact fjord]

for android phone?

[scenic shuttle]

ipad is an apple product

[storm jasper]

All I do is use notes, folders and copy and paste images cause I’m lazy

[lilac python]

yo

[lament heath]

i should finish all my writing stuff and get back to math :(

[void osprey]

Can someone tell me what I do to pass AQA GCSE Mathematics Foundation tier board course?

Will someone tell me how?

[barren remnant]

How do I know if I'm truly grasping the information found in Khan Academy's high school geometry course to the fullest extent besides getting answers correct?

I feel like I can even get all questions right first attempt but maybe not have the most solid grasp on all the underlying topics, this is my first time learning geometry and I'm doing it on Khan Academy and I have some intuition that I bet other students who also only have seen geometry through Khan Academy might not have if they didn't also go online and read more about geometry, but I want to be able to really understand geometry well but I'm occasionally making simple mistakes that happen when I'm not fully focusing or I might move onto the next lesson without truly mastering the previous ones if that makes sense? Like for triangle congruency criterion I definitely know how to solve it and everything but I kinda skimmed through the physical construction of it a bit and wasn't focusing extremely hard.

[real talon]

maybe try more difficult problems?

what you said about getting questions right without understanding the material is going to be the case for almost all basic topics pre-uni level, because they are designed for people to be able to pass without understanding

😆

so you could try going either the route of harder problems, or the route of more rigour

the former will build intuition more than anything else

[barren remnant]

haha I get you, but geometry too? I thought like maybe geometry is different? Or is it also the same? Btw I'm not at those parts yet where like i could learn some theorems in trigonometry and not necessarily have to understand it fully yet i don't know. I'm still at some super basic stuff like this

[scenic shuttle]

I think this is a really normal feeling. I had a hard time with geometry since I didn’t learn it in english at first, and even when I got answers right, things didn’t always make sense at a deeper level. extra resources helped me slow down and understand the ideas better 🙂

[barren remnant]

I see, tysm! I suppose my problem is that I don't know if I want to devote that much time because I'm already like not putting too much time into studying this if that makes sense, like I'm only spending 30 mins a day studying geometry.

[barren remnant]

Tysm! 🩷

[scenic shuttle]

np 🩷

[real talon]

realistically if ur getting the questions right and you arent going to do olympiad stuff... developing more geometry understanding is not that important, a lot of it will not come up later at all in any of the subsequent courses.

[barren remnant]

I see, thanks however I do have a deep fascination with these topics, I wouldn't say at the same level as some serious math people or serious geometry people but I do have a slightly bigger fascination than what's simply being taught in Khan Academy which I think is still thorough. However I don't have like too deep of a fascination, I just wanna know the overallness of it and be able to get 100%s in later courses like trigonometry and calculus, if that makes sense.

Do you still recommend I delve into harder questions? And do you have ideas on where I could find them if I were interested?

[real talon]

yeah i mean like it wont build into calculus.

[barren remnant]

Ooo ty

I think I'll just try to google or review what I'm not like 80% good with then in that case! I really appreciate the help 🩷 🫶

[fierce crypt]

this is a fair idea of what it is, however, don't just go on google and type up what something is and then get done with it. what I like to do is to google the question, then keep asking how come the concept is this way before you move on, it helps with a lot of problem solving questions and helps you connect and correlate concepts from similar concepts together!

you don't have to do it TOO much for calculus, but definitely do it for trig

[serene fulcrum]

Idk, it's a fun toy. I'm having fun with it. I doubt that most of the stuff that I enjoy about it is even exclusive to 5.2. I enjoy asking it meta questions about myself or a theorem or w/e (like "how would I reconstruct this myself?") a lot more than I enjoy asking it to give me a proof of something.

This is the summary of metacognition advice I've gotten from chatgippity for myself after playing with it for 2 or 3 days all day nonstop.

It's stuff that I kind of would have noticed but would never have thought how to put into words; just left as vibes.

It feels like one of those RPGs where you ask questions to a prompt and unravel answers

On an semirelated note, it has helped me make a lil tex macro that can make todo notes throughout a pdf which turn blue when the due date is in the future, green when the due date is today, and red when the due date is in the past; plus a couple tikz diagrams. Though again, I doubt that feature is exclusive to 5.2. Really, the primary reason I have it is simply that I was using the free version so much that I was hitting a daily wall.

[serene fulcrum]

While I am very impressed by how well it can do math now, I don't actually really use it to brainstorm entire proofs all that much, cause that usually defeats the point of studying.

[serene fulcrum]

I will also say again, it can still get relatively simple stuff wrong. Like one time, I submitted this proof for the statement "an infinite subset of a compact set must have a limit point in the compact set" and it kept telling me that my argument which said that if you supposed there weren't, then you could make an open cover that wouldn't have a finite subcover because it couldn't cover the infinite set was wrong. It took a while for it to relent lol (spoilered cus language)

[scenic shuttle]

I dont really trust ai's response

[serene fulcrum]

yeah, you're not supposed to. I've been treating it as more of a rubber ducky.

But like, for the most part 5.2 has given me good responses. That was the only instance in a 3 day no-lifing period where it got stuck in a loop of being wrongly self-assured for a significant period of time. Granted, it was a pretty simple proof and I'd literally started it with "Let E be an infinite subset of a compact set K." so idk why it kept thinking E could be finite

[green terrace]

Probably because it doesn't really "think" tbh

[fierce crypt]

Ai runs on RAW WIKIPEDIA for math concepts, which is written sometimes confusingly, whereas the ai will mix up concepts and formulas to solve them. just read the wikipedia articles and learn math on them, its really fun and nice.

[winter nebula]

@red rapids Zorich seems pretty cool

Thanks for the recommendation

[autumn plaza]

yo, just wanna ask you guys on tips how to study actual math. Been studying diffcal from night to morning and when quizzes and stuff comes can't apply them on the questions, do you guys have any tips on how to study diff cal?

[lost drum]

Hi,there are courses and exercices and from exercices 2 types formal :thouse theorical and concrete : thouse problems of real world applications and from that there are two types: thouse you create : you're own questions, problems ,doubts ,trainings.. and the one of others : here there are 3 categories :exemples, exercices of the textbook , prooves of propositions .with diverses levels

From easy to the hard .

From questions simple to complex where things are mixed .

And then all thouse exercices each question has maybe multiple answers and solutions .

And when you take notes there are two types the one of the course and the one of how to solve I mean the summary of solutions of the questions .

[lost drum]

Then all propositions whether pictural or in formal or in any language ..also the solutions you give must have a proove .and a proove is composed of three elements a conclusion and an argue for it and the connection between argument

And the conclusion .

So the proove is divided in three parts : introduction, middle, conclusion .

...

Except the axioms didn't have a proove .

Witch from thouse all is constructed by a small number of logical connections : or, no ,implie ..between the axioms .

[lost drum]

And in the introduction : there are 4 steps : 1/introducing a clair goal by clarifying and reformulate the question 2/asserting all hypotheses3/ cite the tools to use for the question .4/ witch reasoning you will use

middle : you mobilise the introduction to make a reasoning justifying all the steps with their articulation to the conclusion .

And about making a proove I choosed only most important things but there are rules of course to make them well .

@autumn plaza

[lost drum]

And that courses

Will construct a chapter and chapters to the book and books to all you're year of pre univ .

[lilac python]

man any reu

[fleet hill]

Are you having trouble on practice questions? What does your studying process look like?

[fleet hill]

I'm not really sure what you're saying, are you using some sort of machine translator?

[real talon]

thats standard

[random mauve]

Has anyone finished AOPS by any chance and if so was it worth it?

I'm revising basically everything from math starting at pre algebra because I had it rough in elementary-, middle-, and highschool. My goal is to get better at comp programming because I noticed that my DSA is strong, but I lack the basics of problem solving that go way back to the basics 😭

[real talon]

i would say it was worth it but i feel like practicing programming problems is better if thats ur goal

[mild storm]

💔💔

[autumn plaza]

I do prob, I mean I understand when the problem is answered applying the steps or formulas or so but when It's a different question I can't seem to apply it that's where I have trouble.

[autumn plaza]

I try to watch a couple of vids or so and read books then just try to answer practice problems, sometimes I do answer some but predominantly I just get lost mid solving the problem.

[fleet hill]

Are you following something step by step when you're solving the problems? It sounds like maybe the problems you're practicing on are too rote

[upper mortar]

Hi Guys. I need help and i need a person that is very good at math and at explaining. I am in 8th grade and i am bad at math. I am not the best at math but i wanna be cause i am interested in math. I wanted to ask if someone can give tipps how to get better at math?

[heavy needle]

You stepped down from modERICator?

[lost drum]

Completeness of learning mathematics is in courses and exercices .

It's with Reading immensly and searching the truth that we became a mathematician .

[fleet hill]

Yeah I'm not active nowadays

[scenic shuttle]

I hope your life is treating you well

[vital hearth]

just asking how do you balance studying a math degree while reading math books in your own time

im having difficulty with doing this and i wanna know how to get better

[real talon]

you read math books only when you dont need to study for class

[lost drum]

Sometime thinking and analysing the work of mathematicians you can have their strategies for building math efficiency : For exemple let's analyse the book of jean dieudonné :

He did 9 books of analysis by following a constant schema:

he write the explanations and some definitions..then He will give a group of problems , explanations , definitions ..Problems , explanations ,definitions ..problems ..

[lost drum]

And to analyse well their works you need to the answer of two 2 questions :

What is his goal , what strategy he use for it .

[vital hearth]

i was thinking more how to balance school-work with other things as opposed to how to read math books effectively

[real talon]

you do other things when you do not need to do school-work

[deep stream]

ive been contemplating on switching to digital notetaking from paper

what apps and devices do yall use

[scenic shuttle]

ipad

for notetaking

[deep stream]

ive thought about an ipad but mmm

i was thinking maybe a laptop with stylus support

you can do more with it afterwall

if it doesnt decide to cook itself in 3 years or less

[scenic shuttle]

which subject you want to make notes?

[deep stream]

maths obv

[scenic shuttle]

you can use latex instead

it’s easy to use except for tikz

[deep stream]

I dont know latex yet

I've got a friend who does that tho

[scenic shuttle]

https://www.overleaf.com/learn/latex/Learn_LaTeX_in_30_minutes

[deep stream]

still blows my mind how he keeps up

[scenic shuttle]

can i ask what kinda math topic are u doing?

[scenic shuttle]

fyi, i learned latex here

[deep stream]

analysis linear algebra multivariable calculus

[scenic shuttle]

then you be fine with basics

just give it a try

[deep stream]

and oh yeah another thing that bugs me is diagrams

[scenic shuttle]

if you cant do tikz u can always draw it and place the picture into the project

(i usually do this)

[deep stream]

it all looks like black magic to me 😭

[scenic shuttle]

its typesetting

u might call it an actual coding language but it’s just typesetting and simple to use it

also feel free to use ai to fix the latex error, sometimes it helps me but not when making tikz lol

[deep stream]

tbh the thing that kinda worries me is that I have a few lecturers who have break neck pace

and my typing speed be kinda dog

[scenic shuttle]

look up some resources linked in pinned messages #latex-help too

[scenic shuttle]

then ur best get an ipad or similar

my math prof uses ipad and he writes the lectures on it

importing the pdf and then follow along with it

[deep stream]

hmm oke 👍

i think like pretty much everyone around me is using an ipad or laptop

kinda feel like a neanderthal using paper

thx for the suggestions

[scenic shuttle]

np

[heavy needle]

Same

[wheat elbow]

yo sup itsa logarithmic scale... how do i put points..

say i want to trace x=55

if anyone has an answer please tag me

[scenic shuttle]

#❓how-to-get-help

[tropic void]

<@&268886789983436800> spam

[rare crystal]

hi friends i am looking for study partner

[tawdry flint]

To have better luck, you should list out the areas you are currently studying and maybe what you expect of them and timezone (not that I intend to but it will help you find better luck with other people)

[rare crystal]

pre algebra

[marble niche]

Please help
I get 85 to 95 in maths usually 2 exams ago i didn't even study yet got 85 now i study hard and am getting grades below 60 for 2 exams despite studying more and when I study I see solved examples first see their logic and then solve q my exam went worse than my timed sample paper every peer of mine is getting ahead I'm scared

[marble niche]

Please help

[viral osprey]

Do you know why you are losing points?

[dusky glade]

Damn, I'm burnt out again 😕🤣

[tiny bridge]

it could be one of these, overconfidence, underconfidence, fear,lack of preparation, guilt/trauma from other activities, stress,or just not being in that zone,or forgetting what you knew (revise again),

[forest estuary]

Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening to everyone who is reading this.

I'll be honest but let me put it in context so you understand: I'm preparing for a state exam, and I left school practically illiterate. I was grown in a poor place, had a bad family history and blah blah blah.

To the point,I have no math skills and I use AI to help me, but I can't trust its mistakes.
What I need is for you to tell me which subjects to study for this exam that will take place in a few months (less than 6, 8 at most, because the announcement of the exam is unpredictable).
The topics covered are: Integers, rational and real numbers, as well as counting problems.
Ratios, proportions, rule of three, percentages and the legal system of measurements are also frequent.
Propositional logic, Concepts of sets, functions (polynomial, exponential and logarithmic), matrices, determinants, linear systems, sequences and arithmetic/geometric progressions.

What study path should I follow to learn all of this? I've heard it said that mathematics is like a ladder; you can only climb one rung if you've already climbed the others below it.

[small salmon]

@forest estuary have you looked into Khan academy?

It's a free, very high quality resource that will take you through most of these subjects.

in a guided sort of way

[forest estuary]

I'll check it out.
I don't have a PC, but anyways, I shouldn't have excuses too.

[small salmon]

It'll work on a phone

Essentially, the website is a bunch of YouTube videos connected with quizzes and homework

[scenic shuttle]

there's an app for it

[heady hinge]

How do I revise math for a math test
Ive done all the chapters but the last time I did math was 2 months ago
Do i redo all the chapters or just handpick questions?

[oblique pumice]

Guys give me a book recommendation for differentiation and integration

[strong thicket]

Hi guys any high-schoolers here?

[compact fjord]

?

[strong thicket]

how hard is math during 11th and 12th grade?

[compact fjord]

country?

[strong thicket]

india

[compact fjord]

so for school or competitive exams?

[strong thicket]

just school really, just wanna know if i should be focusing more on math or physics/chem

[compact fjord]

simple jump 10 feel harder than 9th

people say its hard because of competitive exam

[strong thicket]

yeah i just wanna do good in school and not lag behind, so yea i just wanted like tips/suggestions for next year as i dont know what subject/topics to focus on

[viral osprey]

Openstax or paul's online math notes are both free and cover basic calc pretty nicely imo

[oblique pumice]

Ight thanks bro

[dusty pasture]

anybody recommends taking a complex functions or a fourier analysis and integral transforms course? conflicted whether i should take them as my elective courses if i do materials engineering

[tawdry flint]

"How hard" is not objective. But in most ciriculla in high school in India, a lot of the theory in mathematics is unmotivated and bluntly give to you. You can counter this obviously by teaching yourself stuff. Other than unmotivated theory, I dont think anything else is worth mentioning.

And as to your question abou "focusing more on what?". Learn for curiousity so do more of what you find fun.

Even true somewhat for the other natural sciences. There is an emphasis on textbook style rote learning which is not sane

[strong thicket]

i find math most fun more than physics/chem but im just in grade 10, so idk which subject has the most difficultry lvl increase

[tawdry flint]

Again, difficulty is subjective

[dusty pasture]

it really depends on your country and on your skills

different countries have different curriculums, plus what's easy for you may be difficult for others and the other way around. pretty hard to say

[strong thicket]

india

[tawdry flint]

Physics for example is about observation and intuition. But the culture in India has turned it to mere rote memorisation, especially hs. Again, be curious and enjoy but yeah.

[dusty pasture]

well im not indian so i dont know what it's like over there

[tawdry flint]

Try and understand things intuitively and play around when you can

[tawdry flint]

Why do you hate python

[strong thicket]

yeah, i want my basics and foundation to be strong, i think math is foundation for physics and chem so i dont wanna lag on math and will focus it more, but i wanna know others opinion too, as u guys are more experienced

[dusty pasture]

i had a coding course in python that was awful

ever since im a python hater

[viral osprey]

Might make more sense to ask people specifically in materials engineering

It's convenient to be like "it has math so do it" in a math community

[thin eagle]

you'll be alr big bro , just dont lose your wonder for the subject

[strong thicket]

python is easier than other coding languages tho right?

[dusty pasture]

materials engineering as niche as it may sound is pretty broad, i can take answers from electrical engineering students as well bc it's in their curriculum

[dusty pasture]

from what i've heard

[tawdry flint]

I came from javascript to python so I liked it very much especially syntax

[viral osprey]

I think there's still the possibility of bias though

[dusty pasture]

i take that into account

[viral osprey]

Not saying you shouldn't ask here ofc

Be sure to ask in engineering centric places too tho! Lmao

[dusty pasture]

there could be bias regarding everything you ask ever lol

[viral osprey]

Bias from an engineering community on engineering specific questions seems preferable to non-eng bias on eng questions.

Like, I've done a few complex vars/complex analysis courses.

[strong thicket]

thanks bro

[viral osprey]

Imo I really enjoyed them and learned a lot.

But is that relevant to the skillset needed by a typical materials engineer? Fuck if I know.

I know for ex that my first complex vars course had a bunch of random problems about certain types of fluid/heat flow I guess.

Not sure if complex is really the best place to learn about that kind of thing though.

[stuck sedge]

Anyone got tips on how to study math most effectively? could be websites, tuts or something. I really need help.

[lost drum]

do exercices then the solutions .

Write to solve an exercice then when you read the solution ,do the solution .

each course need a serie of exercices and exams but for each question

it's better to search a lot of methods to solve it .and that is by reading solutions of certain correctors and rewriting them and taking time to understand them .

and for you're book study it actively I mean by not just reading it's insufficent act on concepts more ,try to refomulate,teach them and simplifie .. and apply exemples,rewrite the prooves , ask a lot of questions to know well the concepts and ask why it's truth or why it's false ..

If you did so you progressed a lot .

[lost drum]

But most effictively :I dont know what it means ?,Because if the end or the goal is unknown the Most important task for it is unknown .

[lost drum]

when the goals are known you will have the sens of importance so the importance of tasks are being mesured in function of their causal impact on you're goal so you will choose the most important tasks for it if you have options and you know the measures because the most important task and the goal can't be separated without a goal tasks havent direction and without tasks goal's will not be realised .

[heavy needle]

Is there a name for the subgroup of the general linear group with det ± 1

Oh wrong channel

[stuck sedge]

Thank you! I just didnt know where to start

[plain perch]

Hello,
I'm Dhruvin, I'm a Data Science Student I just wanted to get connected just to get better suggestions on how can I study Calculus along with Stats, Probab along with much needed other maths.
And had Calculus again in this sem after a long time.
Which youtube channels and other learning materials should be used in such case

[scenic shuttle]

look up for 3blue1brown, he makes good videos for essence of calculus and a lot more

there are a bunch of other videos too if you search up for specific topic that you're looking for

[plain perch]

Thanks!!

[slate shard]

hey this is a random question for theorem-proof texts, but how many times do you guys reread a passage before you would get it?

[heavy needle]

n+1 times

[real talon]

For me rewriting the proof in my own words/formatting helps

[royal basin]

where n=-1

[storm jasper]

[glacial raven]

Hello everyone, one simples question, sorry if my english isn't good, I have a question, how can I be good in math? I do math exercises, watch class videos and resolution of questions, Am I doing something wrong?

[tawdry flint]

It depends on a lot of parameters, are the class videos apt for you? What kind of questions youre doing? ... many more params @glacial raven

[glacial raven]

Theses questions of entrance exam that can be easy, medium and hard exercises

They are high school level

like this: A company has a water tank with a capacity of 900 m³. When the tank needs cleaning, all the water must be drained. The water is drained through six drains, and it takes 6 hours when the tank is full.

This company will build a new tank with a capacity of 500 m³, and the water in the new tank must be drained in 4 hours when it is full. The drains used in the new tank will be identical to the ones in the existing tank.

The number of drains in the new tank should be:

a) 2
b) 4
c) 5
d) 8
e) 9

[green terrace]

Use ratios

for this problem

[glacial raven]

I know, but I want to know if the way I study is correct

[winter nebula]

Just keep reading until you get it

It's different for everyone

[rare crystal]

Hello friends I am looking for study partner

[plain perch]

Hello, I'm a Data Science Student and we have this in our calculus syllabus for this semester.

Outline for Semester II Courses
Calculus and Linear Algebra for Data Scientists (4 Credits)
The following topics will be covered:
Data tables in terms of vectors and matrices and various mathematical operations
performed on them to derive meaningful insights
Linear transformations and their impact on vectors
The need for eigen decomposition and how it helps to simplify the process of applying
multiple linear transformations on vectors
Various types of functions that are used to model different types of real world data
Finding derivatives of functions and interpreting the meaning of the value of the derivatives
Calculating maxima and minima of various functions using derivatives
Calculating the area bounded by curves using integration
Multivariable functions and the common ways of visualizing their graphs
Calculating the partial derivatives of a multivariable function and interpreting the meaning of their values
Understanding how the gradient descent algorithm works using multivariable calculus

I'm a total noob in math and calculus till now, want to change that,
wanted to get an idea which sources should I follow let that be youtube or coursera courses or otherwise...

[plain perch]

I'm open to do calculus if you have that in your semester syllabus

[rare crystal]

I am starting from Pre Algebra

[plain perch]

alright

[edgy sierra]

trefor bazett
the organic chemistry tutor
3blue1brown
michael penn

3blue1brown is good for visualization others have good playlists

[plain perch]

thank you man,
I'm scared out of my mind calculus is scary to be fair.
thanks again i will check them out

[fervent light]

am i the only one that likes to annotate equations/functions that I find difficult to grasp at first? it does end up making my notes look like rainbow puke at times but i feel like it helps me personally

[sly island]

<@&268886789983436800>

[green terrace]

If it works for you, there's nothing wrong with it

[heavy needle]

<@&268886789983436800>

Sniped?

I think that counts as a snipe

[viral osprey]

We usually get them in many channels at once

[neon topaz]

Cloud sniped me in a help channel

[heavy needle]

I saw it in study discussion and figured it went wide

[viral osprey]

Probably the first person to ping this one was in one of the help channels

[heavy needle]

Lol

[viral osprey]

It's good to ping either way though

[heavy needle]

https://tenor.com/view/pika-nod-pika-nod-yes-pikachu-gif-12587523804982052148

[edgy flint]

What is this app?

[fervent light]

Xournal++

Using it with a Huion tablet

It's a neat setup especially if you're doing online teaching

[viral osprey]

I had a prof who used xournal for classes

It seems nice for linux machines

Makes me wanna buy some kind of tablet/drawing tablet to use it.

[upbeat iron]

Can anybody explain to me what parametric form is about
Like give me an insight to it

[weak fog]

I love Rnote!

[fervent light]

definitely reccomend doing that, I'm using the Huion H640P for a few years now. The drawing surface is more than enough to write on, the hotkeys help and you can easily slip it in a laptop case or backpack. It's micro-usb though not type C, so you do need to have a few spares

[solid solar]

Not sure whether to ask here or in #computing-software . I'm trying to visualize how the vectors decrease with increasing theshold index-wise. Would like some input if that visualization is good. (This is for my bachelor thesis btw)

[0, 2803, 2103, 1405, 1161, 1055, 902, 754, 662, 544, 452, 431, 357, 308, 269, 261, 207, 180, 172, 135, 136,
         127, 103, 95, 82, 72],
        [0, 2321, 1375, 835, 624, 585, 464, 354, 266, 229, 167, 147, 103, 88, 65, 69, 36, 45, 43, 36, 23, 19, 18, 12,
         12, 9],
        [0, 2043, 920, 533, 369, 311, 264, 161, 143, 93, 71, 51, 46, 35, 26, 18, 13, 9, 13, 11, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 0],
        [0, 1933, 691, 360, 257, 205, 164, 83, 77, 50, 38, 29, 42, 30, 16, 0, 0, 0, 9, 11, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0],
        [0, 1903, 585, 295, 194, 165, 112, 64, 51, 31, 38, 22, 36, 30, 10, 0, 0, 0, 9, 11, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0],
        [0, 1827, 491, 245, 143, 122, 86, 47, 34, 22, 30, 14, 19, 13, 10, 0, 0, 0, 0, 11, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0],
        [0, 1787, 418, 214, 102, 122, 86, 26, 34, 0, 19, 14, 19, 13, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0]

Little bit annoying because indices 1 and 2 have such high values compared to the rest.

[steep grove]

it's kinda like working out the ordinates x and y separately, with respect to another variable (such as t).

it can be very useful

to simplify equations that would look complicated in cartesian form

[upbeat iron]

Okay thank you🫡

[steep grove]

question how come you haven't learned about parametrics when you're in undergrad?

[upbeat iron]

Well I never paid attention to conics

[steep grove]

oh, what year are you in

[scenic shuttle]

hi, im looking for some ipad app suggestions. im struggling to keep up with fast lectures without slides. anybody got any good suggestions for a speech to text app that actually comes through during class? tried some, but all the good stuff is locked behind paywalls

[edgy flint]

What best free app to study and write equations and take note ?

(ios)

[silver tendon]

so im not really that smart and im not the smartest in my class and i want to be but i just dont know how to study and im in highschool and im doing pretty bad in math

[fading moon]

study the textbook and sort out the topics you dont know

once youve done that do practice exams to consolidate the knowledge

practice exams are the key to good grades

[silver tendon]

Ok thx

[edgy flint]

.

[tawdry flint]

I use obsidian for my notes though I would not recommend it on mobile if you want to write equations with latex.

[tawdry flint]

Enjoy the math. Start being intrinsically motivated. Dw about being the smartest in your class.

[edgy flint]

Thx for your advice.

Any other suggestions?

[radiant fox]

Ok did we move here?

Shouldn't have closed that one

😭

[heavy rock]

you probably just have to ping the helper

[radiant fox]

@cerulean cypress

[radiant fox]

I pinged now Im gonna get banned look

[heavy rock]

[radiant fox]

Countdown to 3

No, im sorry, im mentally damaged

I don't even know what I am typing

Is there a discord to consult psychosis?

I swear im gonna kms

[heavy rock]

yikes <@&268886789983436800>

[radiant fox]

Ok no more

Im gonna be alive

[viral osprey]

This is not appropriate for here

[twilit mason]

please seek professional help. we cannot provide the help you deserve on this server

this is also not an appropriate response to someone in a crisis state

[cerulean cypress]

hi, sorry I don't think I have anything else to add besides what I suggested in the help channel, which you said doesn't work for you. But everyone has to figure out their own individual study habits that work for them. Don't be discouraged, good luck!

[radiant fox]

I tried everything myself that I think would work, it didn't, that's why I am asking for external help

You guys have to be proud of yourselfs that you don't have the issues with doing what you love or want to do like me

[barren remnant]

Hey do you need help with studying? I just opened this channel to consider asking for myself if someone has tips for me to study math considering some of my circumstances such as speed and whatnot.

[radiant fox]

If you want we can talk

[barren remnant]

I might be able to give you some tips.

[radiant fox]

Ok show me around

Cuz Im lost

Like, a little bitty

[barren remnant]

You have the undergraduate role, are you currently studying undergraduate level math like calculus and above?

The reason for my question is that it would likely subtly change my answer depending on what you're currently studying. Also another question: do you have a teacher?

[radiant fox]

I am in highschool math, I do have a teacher

[barren remnant]

What's the issue?

[radiant fox]

And there was no role for HS so I choosed UG

[radiant fox]

My mental behaviour and psychological side of things

[barren remnant]

Pre-uni is HS and below.

[barren remnant]

That's a bit vague, but what specifically are your troubles, for example not being able to do your homework because you don't understand how to approach the problems?

[radiant fox]

Procrastination/Task-Effort avoidance executive dysfunctioning under cognitive fatigue

[barren remnant]

Have you seen a therapist? I'm not sure someone in this server is qualified to aid much with your questions other than like some basic tips that don't fix that but only help mediate it.

[radiant fox]

The problem is that exactly as you mentioned now, everyone is giving out this CEO-blog tips found on any self-help website on the internet

And the reason that it is problematic is because those are super high-level ways of helping anyone, those tips don't get into the scientific/low level stuff that will actually fix the issue

And yes I am starting my therapy

[barren remnant]

Excellent!

[radiant fox]

But that will take years to fix btw

I need it as soon as possible, It took my life away

And is taking currently

[barren remnant]

Again, this isn't the right place for that.

[radiant fox]

I am typing here to possibly won a lottery and find a psychologist on this server that is also interested in math

[radiant fox]

No it's not suicidal thoughts, Im just saying that this is taking people's life away, not only mine

[barren remnant]

A psychologist here won't do you any good, they'd do inappropriate things to you. You're a minor.

[radiant fox]

I am literally 18

[barren remnant]

Oh ok

[radiant fox]

And I am not stupid

I did my research, I probably know more about the topic that all of the people that can give out the general advice

[barren remnant]

I wasn't talking about that, I was referring to this:

My mental behaviour and psychological side of things
Procrastination/Task-Effort avoidance executive dysfunctioning under cognitive fatigue

[radiant fox]

Yeah so I am seeking help here to possibly win a lottery ticket and meet with someone who was also struggling in the past with this

[barren remnant]

Do you have a schedule for studying that you abide by and follow?

[radiant fox]

I have schedule but I can't follow it

That's the problem

[barren remnant]

I would love to give some tips right now but they're purely anecdotal and I'm only testing them out myself right now so I can't even like speak to how effective it is for me right now, maybe other than stress-relief.

So I'm not sure if I should share them, and so I won't.

[radiant fox]

If it's something that I can find on the general web then don't even get them out

[barren remnant]

Not that I've seen 'em.

[radiant fox]

Interesting

Just to let you know, anything on the web that is usually shared by some productivity gurus, some other bullshit influencers, it don't work

[barren remnant]

I think science is way better than any of that crap.

[radiant fox]

100% agree no questions asked

[barren remnant]

Science is reproducible and has less emotional motives than some guy putting up an article.

Imo

[radiant fox]

Yeah so I will stay unsupported for a long time

[barren remnant]

Well you clearly look like you want to mediate your issues, I think it's totally possible for you to help yourself! You got this.

[radiant fox]

Buddy I've been trying for the past 2 years until I realized that everything that I've tried basically didn't work

And learned that all of what i've tried is crap when I went to the source

[barren remnant]

I don't think you've seen everything, also don't stress if you have been because (in my opinion) ideal study methods have likely been a complex issue that people have been wondering about for a long time. Which if true, might also imply that more complicated personal situations might even be more complex, like in your situation perhaps. All to say that you shouldn't over-worry.

[radiant fox]

I am worrying because all of my life goals and ambitions are going to crap because of this

I know that I am doing this, but I can't stop it

[barren remnant]

You are doing what?

[radiant fox]

This

[barren remnant]

If your question lies in whether or not this is your fault, then you must consider that you have factors like this that play into your behavior from what you said earlier "My mental behavior and psychological side of things"

[radiant fox]

Of course it's not my fault

[barren remnant]

I'm not necessarily saying it's one or the other, I can't say and nor would I know, and it's personally meaningless to me because I don't think it's likely to change too much overall.

[radiant fox]

I mean it can change the analysis of the cause

But I don't think the cause is any important here

[barren remnant]

Of course it's important, you have a goal and you are not meeting that goal. There are causes for that, which if not fixed then you likely still won't be able to meet your educational goals. I hope I'm not wrong in saying all of that.

[radiant fox]

You are right to the point where I can't agree with you more

[barren remnant]

In any event, I wish you the best, you seem really thoughtful! I'm in a similar boat in terms of procrastination I think, and I wish you the best luck! 🩷 Math is really fun, you got this, just try harder, and keep trying and try to be consistent and put in time and work into studying if you can.

[radiant fox]

"Just try harder", "try to be consistent" are empty words

You are going to realize it if you do enough research

[storm jasper]

I kinda just push through it idk

I like pushing my limits

[scenic shuttle]

a lot people

it is best way to dont ask to ask, just ask

[glacial raven]

Hello everyone, I'm stuying a topic in math, if I'm doing exercises, but it those exercises has others topic too, and I need know the two topic, what I do? stop the exercise and study this other topic, or I skip and later finished others matters I study this?

[rotund zodiac]

i think it depends heavily on which topics. can i ask what they are?

[glacial raven]

Ratio and proportion, and Plane geometry

[rotund zodiac]

if you have learned plane geometry already, then go back and review it.
if you haven't, then do the questions with ratios until you are comfortable with the topic. after that, go back and study plane geometry - that way it will be easier because you will know the ratio part of the questions :)

[dusky glade]

May I ask what "causes" burnout for you guys? There can't be a single cause, yes, and self-diagnosis is not really a thing, also yes. But like, what do you "feel" when you're about to burn out? I'm asking this for burnout prevention purposes.

For example, in my case I feel this resistance to start studying when I'm about to burn out, but since the resistance is manageable I just force myself to do it and after a few days I collapse...

I've booked a meeting with a psychiatrist, but still I kind of want to know what burnout is like for other people, if that is possible.

[radiant fox]

So this is also one of the worst things that you can do, it's either not so hard for you, or you are going to end up burning out after years of doing this

[edgy sierra]

maybe you can grow to like it

[dusky glade]

Interesting 🧐. I think there is a factor of just grinding what you don't find enjoyable that can lead to burnout

What I find strange is that I still like what I'm learning, or I find reading my textbook and solving the exercises a joy. But at some point there is just a switch in my head that turns off and I collapse

Kind of a different topic, but does taking a rest day help with anything? I find that it helps to alleviate fatigue, but not eliminate burnout...

Hmmm

Got it 👍. For now I will just wait for my appointment though. Thanks for the advice 🙂

Yeah that's fine

[storm jasper]

I’m inclined to say the former