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obsidian cliff
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im honestly stuck i have not a single clue how to approach this problem (pings are welcome if im being unresponsive)

obsidian cliff
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iim supposed to use intermediate value theorem somehow but idk how

midnight plankBOT
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@obsidian cliff Has your question been resolved?

surreal moon
obsidian cliff
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uhh

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ok

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im going to cry and think about it for a bit ig?

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im not sure where im gonna go with that but lets see

obsidian cliff
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sorry if there were any alarms raised

surreal moon
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There's two cases.\

  1. $f(0)=f(1/2)$\
  2. $f(0)\ne f(1/2)$
grand pondBOT
surreal moon
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Case 1 is easy. Case 2 is where you want ivp

obsidian cliff
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ok

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hmm

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hmm

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im just trying to articulate my words for ab it

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ok now the question is

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is there such a choice for L where i can get y = x + 1/2

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(days like this i wonder if im good enough for a maths degree lmao)

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uhh

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maybe some kind of iterated process

surreal moon
grand pondBOT
surreal moon
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What can you say about $g$?

grand pondBOT
obsidian cliff
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ok

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well

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im just gonna list off some things first

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dk if they're relevant yet

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g(0) = - g(1/2)

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what are its bounds

surreal moon
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Wdym?

obsidian cliff
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ig thats impossible to determine since f doesnt have a defined range

surreal moon
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Not relevant

obsidian cliff
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yea ok

obsidian cliff
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theres a point where

surreal moon
obsidian cliff
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g(x) = 0

surreal moon
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Exactly

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How can you do that?

obsidian cliff
surreal moon
obsidian cliff
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so

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oh wait

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so

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g(0) and g(1/2)

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have opposite sign

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so

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there exists $x_0$ with $x_0 \in (0,\frac 12)$ with $g(x_0) = 0 $

grand pondBOT
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lifelong dumbass

obsidian cliff
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hence you've found it

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ok how on earth does anyone come up with that

surreal moon
obsidian cliff
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pick one of them to be >0, say g(0)

surreal moon
obsidian cliff
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because its a continuous function defined on a closed interval?

surreal moon
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Good

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Finally, why is g continuous?

obsidian cliff
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because f(x) and f(x+1/2) are continuous

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well

surreal moon
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Good enough

obsidian cliff
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yea it is for x in [0,1/2]

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ok

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uh

surreal moon
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Everything seems to be in order now

obsidian cliff
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sorry this just feels like i never wouldve gotten it

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if it werent for the hint on g(x)

surreal moon
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I had a problem like this back when i did topology. It's not something you can easily think of on your own. But once it's in your head, you just hope you remember how to use it when you need to

obsidian cliff
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ok

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(dreading uni in like a month)

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hopefully it turns ok

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im gonna try part b and c

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with the following then

surreal moon
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Good luck to ya

midnight plankBOT
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@obsidian cliff Has your question been resolved?

obsidian cliff
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sorry im just having a bit of trouble

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formulating the same argument for b

obsidian cliff
grand pondBOT
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lifelong dumbass

obsidian cliff
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covering every point

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so to speak

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im trying to consider functions $g_k(x) = f(x+\frac{k-1}{n}) - f(x + \frac{k}{n})$

grand pondBOT
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lifelong dumbass

surreal moon
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This one is tricky. You can use induction to get you there. But the full path isn't easy to see

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As an example, consider n=3. We know there is $x_2\in[0,1/2]$ st $f(x_2)=f(x_2+1/2)$

grand pondBOT
obsidian cliff
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mmm

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ok

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right

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i agree with this

surreal moon
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Now let $g(x)=f(x+x_2) -f(x+x_2+1/3)$

grand pondBOT
surreal moon
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The details here are where things get tricky. Anyway, good luck

obsidian cliff
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ok

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hmm

obsidian cliff
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im sorry

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pseudo owl
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sinx+sin2x+sin3x+sin4x+sin5x=5
If x lies in the interval [0,2pi], how many values of x exist?

pseudo owl
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Through bounding arguments, its clear that all of these terms equal 1

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Does a value of x exist which satisfies this equation?

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We want all these terms to be simultaneously 1

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Feels as if there should be no solutions

frozen talon
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you're basically there already

pseudo owl
frozen talon
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each sin(whatever) must equal 1, so in particular sin(x) = 1

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there's only one x in [0, 2pi] that makes this work

pseudo owl
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Done lol

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so 0 solutions

frozen talon
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but you'll find that e.g. sin(2x) is not 1 for this fixed x

pseudo owl
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I get it.

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Thx.

frozen talon
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ye

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ebon stone
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hello, im currently studying sequences for cal 3 and I have a question for the boundedness. is there no specific formula for it? like do i just have to think of 2 numbers that can bound a sequence?

odd pivot
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Basically yes, you have to "find it yourself"

ebon stone
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ah so there is no way to show it mathematically?

odd pivot
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Ofc it depends on the sequence, do you have a particular example you would have help with ?

odd pivot
lyric charm
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two different things at play here

odd pivot
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As in, you have a definition of what is a bounded sequence by in general

ebon stone
lyric charm
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  1. why does your bound work?
  2. how did you find the bound?

only (1) requires mathematical proof

odd pivot
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But when it comes to finding the bound, it's case by case basically

lyric charm
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(2) does not have a fixed formula or algo

ebon stone
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subtle zinc
odd pivot
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Are you required to find a specific bound ? Or just show it's bounded ?

ebon stone
subtle zinc
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oh nvm

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i can't read

sick fossil
ebon stone
odd pivot
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Okay, I see

ebon stone
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if its just the bounded theorem i can just find the limit for the boundedness then just check for monotone then barabimbaraboom

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but yk profs usually likes to throw curveballs

odd pivot
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Okay so if you want to use bounded monotone thm it's good to practice finding bounds out of the blue indeed

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One method that works for non-negative (≥0) sequences is to show they are decreasing

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Because if it's decreasing and non-negative, it's bounded between 0 and the first term (cause the sequence never gets bigger since it's decreasing)

ebon stone
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what about for alternating?

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is it the same thing?

odd pivot
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For alternating sequence you can look at the absolute value

ebon stone
odd pivot
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Yep

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The definition of a bound is a number which is always bigger than the absolute value of your sequence

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A positive real number $M>0$ is a bound of $(u_n)_{n \geq 0}$ whenever for all $ n\geq 0$, $|u_n| \leq M$

grand pondBOT
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Twenty

odd pivot
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So for alternating sequences, you can basically "forget" about the alternating part and just look at the absolute value

ebon stone
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ah alright i actually didnt knew about that

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thanks

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uhhh can u also do a quick help for physics? im fine with it i just wanna clarify something

odd pivot
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Sure

ebon stone
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ah nvm my brain is too fried rn to explain the entire problem and process lmao

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thanks agian

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opal hollow
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Hi! I was trying to draft a lesson plan on multiplying fractions. I was told the answer is incorrect and that I messed up at alike bases. Can anyone explain this to me?

runic hamlet
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having different denominators is completely fine for multiplying fractions

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$\frac a b\cdot \frac c d = \frac{ac}{bd}$

grand pondBOT
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Denascite

runic hamlet
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you are thinking of addition if I had to guess?

opal hollow
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Yes but, why is it bad if i give it the same deno?

runic hamlet
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$\frac a b + \frac c b = \frac{a+c}{b}$ where this time you need the same denominator

grand pondBOT
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Denascite

runic hamlet
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not just top

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so artificially increasing the denominators just makes every number bigger

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for no benefit

opal hollow
runic hamlet
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and later on you will cancel those numbers out again anyway

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you didnt

opal hollow
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Ohhh

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The 10*10

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I se

runic hamlet
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writing $\frac25\cdot\frac32=\frac{4}{10}\cdot\frac{15}{10}=\frac{60}{100}=\frac35$ would be fine

grand pondBOT
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Denascite

runic hamlet
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but really thats just way more complicated than $\frac25\cdot\frac32=\frac{6}{10}=\frac35$

grand pondBOT
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Denascite

opal hollow
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Well, i wanted to teach alike bases so that they get in the habit of doing it when needed

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But this helps

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Thank you!

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runic hamlet
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you should never do it for multiplication

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it will just lead to errors

modest oriole
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modest oriole
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this feels better

runic hamlet
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yes but thats something you learn a bit later

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twilit field
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I'm trying to compute this

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twilit field
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I was thinking It would have order (4), so it's the identity?

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so (12345)

sick fossil
twilit field
spiral rock
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The identity is not (1 2 3 4 5)

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Its just the identity

twilit field
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right

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so just (1)

spiral rock
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I would notate it as e

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But its just my preference

twilit field
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(14356)=(14)(43)(35)(56)

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Would that be right

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and (d) would be

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(17)(72)(25)(54)(14)(42)(23)(15)(54)(46)(63)(32)

sick fossil
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Or you can multiply them first

twilit field
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but yeah

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I have to find this set

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${(1324),(1342),(134),(132),(13)}$

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spiral rock
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(1 3) (2 4) is missing

twilit field
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Maybe I'm mising something, but what does this mean

zealous schooner
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Do you know what it means for a permutation to be odd or even?

twilit field
runic hamlet
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no

twilit field
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Oh right

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It can be expressed as the product of an odd/even number of transpositins

runic hamlet
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ok

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use that

twilit field
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hmm

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My concern is if $\alpha$ and $\beta$ are both even , we have a problem

grand pondBOT
twilit field
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now this is true

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ooh

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Transpositions are commutatove

runic hamlet
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no

twilit field
grand pondBOT
twilit field
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I meant if both are odd

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my bad

runic hamlet
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and?

twilit field
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Then Their product would be of odd order, would it not

runic hamlet
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no

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what happens to the number of transpositions when you multiply two permutations

zealous schooner
runic hamlet
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yes

twilit field
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and the sum of 4 odd numbers is even

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Right I was taking their product for some reason

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🤦

zealous schooner
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Have you proved that the inverse of a permutation maintains the same parity?

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median apex
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who is doing alevels...

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median apex
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😭

vivid yoke
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Just send the question

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who can help and want to help will help

burnt wraith
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just send

median apex
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;-;

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ok

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i ll do that later

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cuz i need to find it ;-;

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It's alright

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grave kernel
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True or false and why: If a and b are irrational,
then a^b is irrational.

here, i was considering a^b as rational taking it as p/q
and then i have no idea
took log and im stuck

tough shale
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a^b may be rational may be irrational

lethal path
grave kernel
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well

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i dont know

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nothing is stated

lethal path
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it's quite nontrivial (it's from the Gelfond-Schneider theorem)

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but it's true

tough shale
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for example, if you take $\sqrt{2}^\sqrt{2}$, it is irrational
but if you take $(\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}})^\sqrt{2}$, it is rational

grave kernel
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hmmm

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but like

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sqrt(2)^sqrt(2)
isnt that what im already supposed to prove tho

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grave kernel
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this is an exercise on methods of proving
induction, contradiction and stuff

lethal path
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oh, like an easier example is e^(ln 2) = 2

lethal path
grave kernel
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right

lethal path
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you don't need to prove that ln 2 is irrational or anything

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yeah if it's about intro to proofwriting or similar

grave kernel
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right right

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that makes much more sense honestly

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thank you so much

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tidal turret
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hey guys, I need some help with combinatorics
The question is
Let f in {h : {1,2,3,4} -> {1,2, . . ., 50} | h is injective} be defined as f(x) = x for 1 <= x <= 4. Find how many functions g in {h : {1,2,3,4} -> {1,2, . . ., 50} | h is injective} satisfy that #(Im(f) \ Im(g)) = 0 or (Im(f) \ Im(g)) = 4

tidal turret
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what I have done so far is

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knowing that f is injective, then its image its of cardinality 4, #(Im(f)) = 4

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same for g, we know #(Im(g)) = 4

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so theres two possibilities right, that the set Im(f) and the set Im(g) are disjoint is one possibility

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the other possibility is that they are not, in that case specifically Im(f) = Im(g)

radiant roost
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yes

tidal turret
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so, first of all, the number of injective functions f, such that the image has cardinality 4, in the interval 1 <= x <= 4 is something along the lines of 4!
because say for example
f(1) = 1
f(2) = 2
f(3) = 3
f(4) = 4

like order doesnt matter
f(2) = 2
f(3) = 3
f(4) = 4
f(1) = 1
is still describing the same function

radiant roost
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yes

tidal turret
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but, after this is when it starts getting messy

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when we try to find the number of possible gs

radiant roost
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you're picking 4 from 46

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these are "permutations"

tidal turret
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wait a second dude

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I got lost how we figured the number of possible fs are 4!

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order doesnt matter, so its a combination of picking what ?

radiant roost
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it's not a combination

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it's 4P4

tidal turret
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the domain of f is {1,2,3,4} but his codomain is {1,2, . . ., 50}

radiant roost
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we're interested in the ones whose image is {1,2,3,4}

tidal turret
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how many of those there are?

radiant roost
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4P4 = 4!

tidal turret
radiant roost
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f(n)=n

lunar ocean
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well for instance f(1) = 1, f(2) = 2, f(3) = 4, f(4) = 3

radiant roost
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f(n) = (n%4)+1

tidal turret
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the problem is dat

lunar ocean
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?

tidal turret
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that doesnt follow f(x) = x

lunar ocean
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that's an injective function and its image is {1, 2, 3, 4}

tidal turret
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right?

radiant roost
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what do you mean "follow"?

lunar ocean
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that is indeed not the function f(x) = x

radiant roost
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oh, right

tidal turret
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but we needed that f(x) = x

radiant roost
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i don't think so

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oh... because f was defined in the problem

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well call it g then

tidal turret
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well first I was trying to find the number of f

lunar ocean
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the number of f that satisfy what, exactly?

tidal turret
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then we can get to calculate the number of g

radiant roost
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there is only one f

tidal turret
tidal turret
tidal turret
radiant roost
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g with image {1,2,3,4} right?

tidal turret
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Im(g) has cardinality 4

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we know know exactly his image

radiant roost
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yes Im(g) has cardinality 4

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but you had mentioned two cases

tidal turret
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yes

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either Im(f) and Im(g) are disjoint or Im(f) = Im(g)

radiant roost
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yes

tidal turret
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so either Im(g) = {1,2,3,4} or Im(g) does not intersect {1,2,3,4}

radiant roost
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yes

tidal turret
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this is where it gets tricky

fathom onyx
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Not really?

radiant roost
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note that g cannot satisfy both conditions

fathom onyx
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(also, that's not what f is)

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(f is just defined as f(1) = x1, f(2) = x2, f(3) = x3, f(4) = x4, where x1 to x4 are distinct whole numbers between 1 and 50 inclusive)

radiant roost
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no, f(x) = x

tidal turret
fathom onyx
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oh shit yh it's defined there

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Then this is even simpler

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You're then to determine how many injective functions g there are from {1,2,3,4} to {5, 6, ..., 50}

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This should be simple to calculate

tidal turret
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how

fathom onyx
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Okay, first, do you understand why, when im(g) = im(f), how there were 4P4 such functions g?

tidal turret
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I divided into two possibilities, that Im(g) = {1,2,3,4} or that Im(g) subset {5,...,50}

fathom onyx
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yh ik I have read the above

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ANd you've already done the first case

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But do you understand WHY the first case's result is 4P4 = 24 such functions g?

radiant roost
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do you feel comfortable with the first case?

tidal turret
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kinda, yeah, since we are not restricted by g(x) = x
we can do
g(1) = 1
g(2) = 2
g(3) = 4
g(4) = 3
like I dont understand it completely, but I sort of have some intuition

radiant roost
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another example...
g(1)=3
g(2)=2
g(3)=4
g(4)=1

tidal turret
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yeah, but how 4p4

fathom onyx
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(Right, so you didn't understand it?)

tidal turret
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yeah

fathom onyx
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so why claim you had an intuition

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We have to pick four numbers for each of g(1), g(2), g(3) and g(4)

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Starting at g(1), we have four such choices (in the case that im(g) = im(f))

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Once it is picked, then we've only got three choices for g(2)

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Then once that is picked, we've got two choices for g(3)

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And by this point, we've only got the one remaining choice for g(4)

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@tidal turret Can you see how this gives us 24? (there's a multiplication to do)

tidal turret
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Yeah, sort of gettt it, is kind abstract though

fathom onyx
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It really isn't that abstract

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It's akin to the question: "How many ways can you seat 4 people on a bench?"

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In the first space (e.g. leftmost) on the bench you have 4 choices of person to seat

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Then in the second, you have 3 choices left

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Then in the third, 2 choices left

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Then in the last seat, whoever's remaining

tidal turret
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yeah

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yeah, so it sort of means 24 seats, but then it gets messy as hell, when Im(g) subset {5,...,50}

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46 P 4?

radiant roost
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it's exactly 24

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not "sort of"

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yeah 46 P 4 is right

fathom onyx
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idk why you keep saying "sort of means" here

tidal turret
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I mean, 4 ways of sitting the first dude

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but why we multiplicate them

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why not just sum them?

fathom onyx
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-# (the verb is "to multiply")

tidal turret
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because they are all happenning simultaneously?

radiant roost
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there are 4 ways of choosing f(1). for each of these, the number of ways N to pick the remaining three values is the same. so the total is 4N

tidal turret
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there is an multiplication principle

radiant roost
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in other words there are N ways with f(1)=1, N ways with f(1)=2, N ways with f(1)=3, and N ways with f(1)=4

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so 4N, and not 4+N

tidal turret
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we can make like a tree diagram out of this

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coutning really is hard

radiant roost
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yes

tidal turret
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then for f(2) we have 3N seats

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because one is picked already

radiant roost
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sure, maybe you should change the variable

strange notch
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Can anyone help with 13 and 14

fathom onyx
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BOT DOWN WTF

radiant roost
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try one of the available rooms, like #help-31

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-# thanks, me; have a cookie, me

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how many ways of arranging ABCD there are?
4 ways of arranging A, 3 ways of arraining B, 2 ways of arranging C , 1 way of arranging D

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sort of like that, all them happening simultaneously

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it's the same problem

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I mean, kinda get it, is tricky tho

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yeah

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Genuinely slightly concerned what here you're finding "tricky"

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How they're the same problems? or the computation itself?

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counting is tricky

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4 ways of arranging the first letter

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3 ways of arranging the second letter

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Combinatorics is the mathematics of counting and arranging. Of course, most people know how to count, but combinatorics applies mathematical operations to count quantities that are much too large to be counted the conventional way. Combinatorics is especially useful in computer science. Combinatorics methods can be used to develop estimates abou...

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Highly recommend you read through this then

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this explains it

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of the why its multiplication

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that is so vague opencry

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yeh that''s not more explicatory than what we've said

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I mean, this multiplication principle

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That's like if we told you 8+3 = 11; and you said "I understand it now because the calculator said 8+3 = 11"

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It's honestly not functionally different here

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i think this is a little different from the permutations

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it's like saying how many ways can you arrange ABCD on one bench and EFG on a second bench

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it's 4! times 3!

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but as I said, the counting itself, not about the number of ways to seat x people, but like counting in general is tricky

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yep

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i've had the moment of like "wait why doesn't it work if i calculate it this way?"
and seen others ask the same thing

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well multiplication principle and addition principle is useful for simple counting

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but then, if Im(g) subseteq {5, ..., 50} theres like 4! x 46P4 ways of this shit happening

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no, it's addition here

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4! + 46P4

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you mean 4! for Im(g) = {1,2,3,4} and 46P4 for Im(g) subseteq {5, ..., 50}?

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yes

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that sort of tracks, but as I said, counting is tricky dude

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no argument here

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,w 1 + 4! + 46 Pick 4

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wait a second

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4! ways of picking f(x) = x

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yes

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but

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its 4! + 4! x 46p4

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huh

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no

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because every f gives another

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No

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You have a FIXED f

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yeah there is only one f

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the issue is that

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is the problem mis-stated?

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46 pick 4 is happening simultaneously with 4!

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Do you understand what "nPr" means?

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g is either of the first type or the second type

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so the total number of functions g is the sum

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Im(g) = {1,2,3,4} or Im(g) subset {5,...,50}

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Right, so this rule applies

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You have to add them

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There's no further multiplication at this step

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I might have messed up the translation

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!xy is what I would say, but the bot is down

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haha

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Ejercicio 1. Sea $\mathcal{F} = {h : {1,2,3,4} \to {1, 2, \text{ } \dots \text{ } , 50} \text{ } / \text{ } h \text{ es inyectiva }}$. $\$ Definimos en $\mathcal{F}$ la relacion $\mathcal{R}$ como $$f \mathcal{R} g \quad \text{si y solo si} \quad #(\operatorname{Im}(f) \setminus \operatorname{Im}(g)) = 0 \text{ o } 4.$$ a) Analizar si $\mathcal{R}$ es una relacion reflexiva, simetrica, antisimetrica y/o transitiva. $\$ b) Sea $f \in \mathcal{F}$ definida como $f(x) = x$ para $1 \leq x \leq 4$. Calcular cuantas funciones $g \in \mathcal{F}$ satisfacen $f \mathcal{R} g$

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this exercise was b) of this original problem

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The translation then is correct

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I mean, yes and no

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because I proved the relation is symmetric, reflexive, and that is not transitive and not antisymmetric

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but assuming that R is symmetric and R is reflexive

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And that has to do with anything related to part b, why?

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fRf is possible and fRg => gRf

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A if and only if B

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So any time you see the statement A, you can replace it with B

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So you replace "fRg" with the definition there, # (Im(f) \ Im(g)) = 0 or 4

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I see no problem, translation-wise

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yes but if fRg holds then gRf aswell

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In both senses of "translation" (mathematical and linguistic)

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so #( Im(g) \ Im(f)) = 0 or 4

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Again who cares

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You're told to count the number of functions g that satisfy fRg

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I think you are right

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i.e. the number of functions g that satisfy # (Im(f) \ Im(g)) = 0 or 4

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That's literally what you translated it to

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Why are you doubting this

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this is still the same two possibilities that Im(f) = Im(g) or Im(g) subseteq {5, ..., 50}

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this is what someone did

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the answer doesn't seem right

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you and she is saying that the events are disjoint, but like the corrector is saying that each permutation gives a different function

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Is tricky

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no idea why is that even the case

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but I think our analysis is kinda correct, like the number of possible fs is 1, and theres two possibilities that Im(g) = {1,2,3,4} or that Im(g) subset {5,...,50}

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the bot has me trapped as a hostage

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anyone seeing this?

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the answer is just 4! + Permutation(46,4)

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that is equivalent to 4! + 4! * combinations(46,4)

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but like, 4! * combinations(46,4) = permutations(46,4)

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I was just overcomplicating the problem, and I didnt explained myself correctly but you guys were right from the beginning

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and the answer from the guy who corrected is right aswell

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both of us were right

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because 4! * combinations(46,4) = permutations(46,4)

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generally speaking: k! * combinations(n,k) = permutations(n,k)

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this was the huge misunderstanding

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in this case the one who took this exam didnt recognized that order matters

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order matters because we can have f(1) = 5, f(2) = 6, f(3) = 7, f(4) = 8, and have f(1) = 8, f(2) = 7, f(3) = 6, f(4) = 5 and both be different functions

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both are valid permutations

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anyways I appreciate the help as always

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this one was a hardone, because I havent reviewed the basics of combinatorics

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but in fact it shouldnt have been too hard

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is just that I am behind on the material

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I appreciate it

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no shit

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Hi

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i'm confused on why combinations with repetitions and stars and bars problems have different formulas

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I’ll pin this question, consider it a temporary occupation.

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tyty

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Say I have 5 different types of candies and i want to buy 10 candies

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the number of ways to do that is 14 C 4

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isnt this the same as saying numbers of ways to choose 10 numbers from 0-4 when repetitions are allowed

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i have realized

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i might be stupid

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k in stars and bars is the types of candies

k in combinations with replacement is 10

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they are equivalent

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god bless me

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yep

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Alright

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  1. Dada la funcion
    $$f(x,y) = \begin{cases} \frac{x^2\sin(y)}{\frac{1}{3} (x^2 + y^2)} &\text{ si } (x,y) \neq (0,0) \ 0 &\text{ si } (x,y) = (0,0) \end{cases}$$ (a) Hallar todos los $v \in \mathbb{R}^2$ de norma 1 tales que $\pdv{f}{v}$ $(0,0) = 3\$
    (b) Decidir si $f(x,y)$ es diferenciable en $(0,0)$.
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I need some help with b)

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how do I check if this piecewise is differentiable at (0,0)?

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sky you dont need to do this 😭 tho I appreciate you being a manual bot

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LOL

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,align &f(x,y) = \begin{cases} \frac{x^2\sin(y)}{\frac{1}{3} (x^2 + y^2)} &\text{ si } (x,y) \neq (0,0) \ 0 &\text{ si } (x,y) = (0,0) \end{cases} \ &\lim_{(x,y) \to (x_0, y_0)} \frac{f(x,y) - f(x_0, y_0) - \nabla f(x_0,y_0) \cdot (x - x_0, y - y_0)}{|(x-x_0, y - y_0)|} = 0 \ &\lim_{(x,y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{f(x,y) - f(0, 0) - \nabla f(0,0) \cdot (x - 0, y - 0)}{|(x-0, y - 0)|} = 0 \ &\lim_{(x,y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{f(x,y) - \nabla f(0,0) \cdot (x , y )}{|(x, y )|} = 0 \ &\nabla f(x_0, y_0) = \left(\pdv{f}{x} \ (x_0,y_0), \pdv{f}{v} \ (x_0,y_0)\right) \ &\nabla f(0, 0) = \left(\pdv{f}{x} \ (0,0), \pdv{f}{v} \ (0,0)\right) \ &\pdv{f}{x} \ (x_0,y_0) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(x_0 + h, y_0) - f(x_0, y_0)}{h} \ &\pdv{f}{x} \ (0,0) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(0 + h, 0) - f(0, 0)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(h, 0)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{h^2 \sin(0)}{\frac{1}{3}(h^2 + 0^2)}}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{3h^2 \sin(0)}{h(h^2 + 0^2)} = 0 \ &\pdv{f}{y} \ (0,0) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(0, 0 + h) - f(0, 0)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(0, h)}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\frac{0^2 \sin(h)}{\frac{1}{3}(0^2 + h^2)}}{h} = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{3 \cdot 0^2 \sin(h)}{h(0^2 + h^2)} = 0 \ &\nabla f(0, 0) = \left(\pdv{f}{x} \ (0,0), \pdv{f}{v} \ (0,0)\right) = (0,0) \ &\lim_{(x,y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{f(x,y)}{|(x, y )|} = \lim_{(x,y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{f(x,y)}{\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} = \lim_{(x,y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} \cdot \frac{x^2\sin(y)}{\frac{1}{3} (x^2 + y^2)} = \lim_{(x,y) \to (0, 0)} \frac{3x^2\sin(y)}{ \sqrt{x^2 + y^2} (x^2 + y^2)} \ &\lim_{r \to 0} \frac{3(r\cos(\theta))^2\sin(r\sin(\theta))}{ \sqrt{r^2} (r^2)} = \lim_{r \to 0} \frac{3r^2\cos^2(\theta)\sin(r\sin(\theta))}{ \sqrt{r^2} (r^2)} = \lim_{r \to 0} \frac{3\cos^2(\theta)\sin(r\sin(\theta))}{r} = \lim_{r \to 0} 3\cos^2(\theta)\sin(\theta) \cdot \frac{\sin(r \sin(\theta))}{r \sin(\theta)} \ &3\cos^2(\theta)\sin(\theta) \neq 0 , \forall \theta

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I need some help with this

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  1. Sea $\varphi(x,y) = \left(\frac{1}{\pi} \tan\left(\frac{\pi y}{x}\right), \sqrt{x^2 - 3\cos(\pi y)}, x + 4y\right)$ \\ (a) Calcular $D_{\varphi}(1,-1)$.\\ (b) Sea $f : \mbb{R}^3 \to \mbb{R}$ una funcion diferenciable tal que $f(0,2,-3) = 1$. \\ Sabiendo que: \begin{itemize} \item $\text{La derivada direccional de } f \text{ en la direccion } \\ v = \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}, \frac{-1}{\sqrt{2}}, 0\right) \text{ es } \frac{7}{\sqrt{2}}$ \item $\text{La derivada direccional de } f \text{ en la direccion } \\ w = \left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{10}}, \frac{3}{\sqrt{10}} , 0 \right) \text{ es } \frac{-13}{\sqrt{10}}$ \item $\pdv{(f \circ \alpha)}{t} \ \left(\frac{\pi}{4}\right) = -3 \text{ para } \alpha(t) = \left(\cos^2(2t), 2\sin(2t), -3\tan(t)\right)$ \end{itemize} Calcular la ecuacion del plano tangente de $f \circ \varphi (1, -1)$
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what's sea

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let

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,w partial derivative with respect to x of (1/pi)*(tan((pi * y)/x))

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I am stuck

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stuck where?

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Between

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between what?

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Like i am halfway

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But I am getting it wrong

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Repeatedly

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that way we can see where you are messing up.

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,rcw

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last term

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$\frac{5}{2} \cdot 5 \neq \frac{10}{2}$

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and first term, the ^2 is nowhere to be seen.

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the first term should be $2 \times \paren{\frac52}^2$ \ and not $2 \times \frac52$

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finally in the second term i am seeing an extra five pop out of nowhere

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$\sqrt{3} \times \frac{5}{2} \neq 5 \sqrt{3} \times \frac{5}{2}$, surely.

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Hello. Could someone please assist me to solve part a) ?

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how do I prove this limit is 0

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I mean I have some ideas

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dude I think I got it

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btw you also could use sin(w^3) <= 1 instead of sin(w^3) <= w

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ye

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Oh wait nvm you can’t do that

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nice observation

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you need w^3 so that it cancels with the w^2 on the bottom

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shit is so nasty

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That’s why half of it didn’t matter

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You’re doing good on basic calculus already

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im stuck at the end ive looked it up and watched a video I just dont understand it

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ur so close, this is stuff you've most definitely done before

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how would you solve something like
5p = 7

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divide by 5?

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both sides, yes

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yea

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exactly the same idea/principle applies here

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so id divide by the -2x+4?

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something was multiplied to the p you wanted to isolate,
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yes

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would I distribute the negative to the 1?

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wdym

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like when I put the y under the left side theres a negative does it turn the whole 2x+1 into -2x-1?

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can you write down the whole equation you're getting

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yeah

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before the attempt at further simplification

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that'd be wrong

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okay so theres no negative 1 its just a positive

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would still be wrong

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oh

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note what you're actually supposed to divide by

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so id divide by the -2x+4?

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okay

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do that first, because you're trying to do multiple things at once and ended up treating that as
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yeah okay ill try that

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this look right?

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no

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same issue

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you're still treating it as -(2x+4)

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keep the minus in the denominator?

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yes

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okay

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the - in its current state applies only to the 2x

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alrighttt

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to be safe, chuck whatever you're dividing by in the denominator
worry about what to do after

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okay what now then?

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what do you have now?

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yeah

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that wasn't a yes/no question

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I dont know would i have to subtract the numerator 1 over then divide the 2?

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show me what you have after that division only

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do nothing else

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and ur done

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this guy

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so if A (area) is so small (like in the wire) shouldnt R (resistance) be so large

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Because rho (P) is very small

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hm

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so rho p in every wire is so small that dividing it by a super small value like A doesnt make it large

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ig that makes sense

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lets say we increased L ----> 10L

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A will decrease to 1/10 A to make Vol constant

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R got 10 times larger

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or wait no

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10/(1/10)

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it got a 100x larger

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so how is smth that is 100x larger still.... so small? is resistance in real life examples just multiples of 0.0000000000000000001 or smth

robust isle
eternal pawn
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You don't have .1 mm wires do you

slate ferry
vivid crow
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wires like copper or aluminum have an extremely low resistivity

even though the wire is thin the p of copper is so incredibly small that it keeps the overall resistance (R) of the wire close to zero

near cliff
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In general for experimental setups the resistance of the wires can pretty much be neglected

near cliff
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For larger wires like power lines though, resistance starts to become an issue

slate ferry
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so i was just- confused

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alright this is a lot clearer now

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last slate
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yoo

midnight plankBOT
last slate
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whats an identity matrix

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I

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denoted by capital i

small jasper
last slate
small jasper
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What do you mean “its identity matrix”? There’s only n by n one identity matrix for a given n.

midnight plankBOT
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@last slate Has your question been resolved?

last slate
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i need help with part b

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i dont understand what 2 is here

steel crest
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2 is 2

main current
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2 is an integer. You can multiply an integer by a matrix, which gives you a new matrix

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Take A. You just multiply all of the values in the matrix by 2, and you have 2A

last slate
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or by A then inverse it?

steel crest
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you didnt ask what it means to multiply by 1/(ad-bc)

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why is that more obvious?

last slate
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the parenthesis make it seem like you need to multiply 2 first

last slate
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but the question says to use the answer in part a

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so if i use the answer in part a then i just mulyiply the result by 2

steel crest
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you can prove a theorem that

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(cA)^-1 = c^-1 A^-1

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want to prove that?

brisk iris
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If m is a scalar and M a matrix.
(mM)^x = m^x M^x

last slate
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what even is c^-1

steel crest
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whats 2^-1 ?

last slate
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i thought that theroem applies to two matrices

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not a scalar

steel crest
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2 is a matrix

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[2]

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1x1 matrix

last slate
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oh

steel crest
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if you wish to think of it that way

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you dont need to think of it that way but it works

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of course we have that

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[2]^-1 = [2^-1]

last slate
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so that would be [2] * x = I?

steel crest
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not sure what youre asking

last slate
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I being the identity matrix

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wait nevermind

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im confusing stuff

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in general how do you find the inverse of any matrix?

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other than that formula

steel crest
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there are algorithms

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it's not straightforward

last slate
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my book is terrible at explaining

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is there any place i can learn them

steel crest
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plenty,but, what is your questiin here, youre a bit all over the place

last slate
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i just dont think i understand the concept itself

steel crest
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which concept

last slate
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inverse of matrices

steel crest
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let M be an nxn matrix

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suppose there exists an nxn matrix N with the property that

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MN=NM=I

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then N = M^{-1}

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that's the definition

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same as the definition of a multiplicative inverse of a number x

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suppose there exists a number y such that xy=yx=1

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then y = x^{-1}

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or "1/x"

last slate
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it has to be a square matrix or else its non invertible?

steel crest
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correct

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otherwise MN != NM

last slate
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interesting so you can only invert square matrices

steel crest
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you can have right-inverses and left-inverses of non-square matrices but they're not really talked aboutr as much because theyre not so useful

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or important

last slate
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so if you have an nxm matrix you cant find an inverse for it correct

steel crest
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if m!=n

last slate
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right

last slate
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any matrix thats able to be inversed

steel crest
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not all square matrices have inverses

last slate
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oh

steel crest
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but it is the definition of inverse for all invertible square matrices

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for example, look at the formula you have for a 2x2 inverse

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if ad-bc = 0 then there is no inverse

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division by 0

last slate
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right

cedar pawn
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That would violate dimensionality conditions

warm rivet
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a 2x2 matrix represents a transformation of 2 dimensional space (by matrix vector multiplication). The inverse is just the transformation you need to "invert" the operation done by A

steel crest
warm rivet
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if you first apply A and then scale by 2, to invert you must apply A^{-1} and then scale by 1/2 to counteract the 2 (or you can use the formula)

steel crest
cedar pawn
steel crest
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nu nu

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you're correct

cedar pawn
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I agree it would be nice if everything worked nicely if you did it like that

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But sadly it doesn't

steel crest
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so up to the person to prove that (cA)^{-1} = c^{-1}A^{-1}

cedar pawn
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Do you want them to prove that?

steel crest
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theyre not even here anymore i think

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but i dont have a particular desire either way, theyre not MY student, but i think it would be a good exercise

last slate
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bro whats the inverse of numbers

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whats the inverse of 2

upper cedar
last slate
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my book fing sucks

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the way it has things written just pisses me off

cedar pawn
steel crest
cedar pawn
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The inverse A^-1 of a matrix A (more specifically the multiplicative inverse of A) is the matrix such that A A^-1 = I, the identity matrix.

upper cedar
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-# Oh sorry I should have inferred multiplicative inverse from the context.

steel crest
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have you never seen the notation ebfore, like

last slate
steel crest
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$9^{-1}$

grand pondBOT
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gfauxpas

steel crest
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?

cedar pawn
last slate
cedar pawn
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We multiply it by 2

last slate
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ok

steel crest
cedar pawn
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The multiplicative inverse is the number that we need to now multiply it by to get back to x

last slate
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the book says inverses arent exponents

cedar pawn
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Which is 1/2

steel crest
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this is a number

last slate
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forgot if its the book or what

cedar pawn
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The multiplicative inverse of a number x is 1/x

steel crest
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9 is a number

steel crest
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what I wrote in this part?

last slate
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i just dont understand anything rn its that moment where the frustration is happening

cedar pawn
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Okay let's just pause for a sec

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Let's start with numbers

last slate
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okay

cedar pawn
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We have a number x

last slate
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ok

cedar pawn
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The multiplicative inverse of x is the number we need to multiply x by to get 1

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So in other words, xy = 1

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y is the multiplicative inverse of x

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We can write y = x^-1

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For numbers, the multiplicative inverse is just 1/x

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So y = x^-1 = 1/x

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And we have x (1/x) = 1

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Which is correct

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Happy with that?

last slate
cedar pawn
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1 is the multiplicative identity

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So yes

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An identity is something that leaves the original object unchanged

last slate
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okay so an inverse of a number is a another number you multiply by the original number to obtain 1

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okay

cedar pawn
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Yes

last slate
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got it

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same thing in matrices?

cedar pawn
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Well

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It's slightly different with matrices

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Because you can't do 1/matrix

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But the principle is the same

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So now we have a matrix M

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We want M M^-1 = I

last slate
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okay

cedar pawn
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I is the identity matrix

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Which is the matrix equivalent of 1

last slate
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right

cedar pawn
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For numbers, we have:
x(1) = x

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For matrices, we have:
MI = M

last slate
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ahhh

cedar pawn
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So I leaves the original matrix unchanged

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So it's like multiplying by 1

last slate
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right

cedar pawn
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Multiplication is the primary operation you do with matrices

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So an "inverse matrix" is the multiplicative inverse

steel crest
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in fact matrices were invented in order to do matrix multiplication

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historically

cedar pawn
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And the identity matrix is the multiplicative identity

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The multiplicative bit is just dropped because that's always the case

last slate
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right

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like x = x*1

cedar pawn
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Yep

last slate
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M = M * I

cedar pawn
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Multiplying by 1 leaves x unchanged

steel crest
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best not to use a symbol for matrix multiplication

cedar pawn
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Matrix multiplying by I leaves M unchanged

last slate
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right

cedar pawn
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So for numbers, we have x x^-1 = 1

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For matrices, we have M M^-1 = I

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Is that okay?

steel crest
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Greenie I think hes just about ready

last slate
cedar pawn
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What is he ready for?

steel crest
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to prove:
if c is a scalar
and M is an invertible matrix
then
$(cM)^{-1} = c^{-1} M^{-1}$

grand pondBOT
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gfauxpas

steel crest
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non-zero scalar*

last slate
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i dont understand that

steel crest
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well let's break it down

last slate
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can we continue from the og pase

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pace*