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radiant roost
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for all a in X, we have a in X_i and a in X_i for some X_i, so a is related to a

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since this holds for all a, the relation is reflexive

tired ferry
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ok yeah that makes a lot more sense

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Thats kinda what i was thinking, but " saying that a is related to b if there exists X_i with a,b both in X_i" felt like something i should need to prove

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is there a reason we can assume it

radiant roost
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we are asked to prove that "there is an equivalence relation on X"

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we can define any relation we want, and show that it's an equivalence relation

tired ferry
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ah

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so we can define the relation as reflexive

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which it would be to be an equivilance relation

radiant roost
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not exactly

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they defined it with the phrase "let two elements be equivalent if they are in the same partition"

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i rephrased this into "a is related to b if there exists X_i with a,b both in X_i" since i believe that's what they mean

tired ferry
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Oh, and then they prove reflexivity as an a would be in the same partition in itsself

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yeah that makes a bit more sense

radiant roost
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yes

tired ferry
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tysm

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@radiant roost actually sorry rq

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is there more clarifiction of the motiviation behind this relation

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is it just becasue we know that its true, or does it come from the definition of a partition

tired ferry
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yes

radiant roost
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you're asking why they chose to define it that way?

tired ferry
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yes, it seams to be the only place they do that and im assuming it gives some assumtions

radiant roost
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assumptions?

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digital walrus
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hi

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digital walrus
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i dont understand how they got 1 for the y int

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y=sin(3pi/6) = sin(pi/2)

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oh..

lean dock
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sin(pi/2) is 1 innit

digital walrus
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ohrrr

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wow

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digital walrus
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can i pls have some help differentiating this

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i used the chain rule but i got it wrong

lean dock
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can u show ur working out

digital walrus
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ok wait

digital walrus
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because this one seems to have 2

lean dock
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seems to have 2?

digital walrus
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i have to use this one and chain rule

lean dock
digital walrus
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oh

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ok let me try again

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im confused on how they got 2x+pi/4

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in the brackets

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@lean dock Hi soz r u still here?

lean dock
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yeah im here

digital walrus
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how did they get 2x+pi/4 in the bracket

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i got 2x-pi/4

lean dock
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lemme see

digital walrus
lean dock
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i think theyre the same thing

digital walrus
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what how

lean dock
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hm

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lemme do it on my book

digital walrus
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oke

lean dock
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yeah i got the same answer as you

digital walrus
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ok thanks

flat spire
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Bum chicken

digital walrus
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hi waterbeam

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iclll year 12 maths kinda light

flat spire
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u just started it 😔

digital walrus
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ok i lied specialist is really hard

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):

flat spire
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If ur having trouble wit it you’re gonna have even more

digital walrus
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bruh

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idc nothing is going to be as hard as the in class tests my teacher gave us

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because theres 1 smart indian kid

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luckily i got a new teacher this year!!!

flat spire
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Haha I remember school!

digital walrus
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unc

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unc

flat spire
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wow

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Wow

digital walrus
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wait i cant lie my formula sheet kinda scary

flat spire
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Show

digital walrus
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this year i wont forget to put +c in my exam ❤️

flat spire
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Ez

flat spire
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Do some bearing problems @digital walrus

last arch
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Should put +a instead to manifest a A+

digital walrus
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and i dont understand it at all

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i just copy the formula 😭

flat spire
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gg

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it’s over

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Drop spec and methods

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Do the normal maths

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zinc leaf
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solve dN/dt + (5/t)N =0, t>0

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zinc leaf
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whats the integrating factor supposed to be?

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is it 5/t

jolly nimbus
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y' + a(x)y = 0
=> y = exp(-A(x))
where a is the derivative of A.

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Here you have a(t) = 5/t

zinc leaf
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so the integrating factor IS 5/t right..

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wait

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uhhh

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im kind of confused

jolly nimbus
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You can also solve by integrating :
dN/dt + (5/t)N = 0
<=> dN/dt = -(5/t)N
<=> dN/N = -(5/t)dt

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You integrate on both sides and then you solve for N

zinc leaf
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oh yeah but how would i do it witha n integrating factor

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because i know how to do that method

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but i think the focus is supposed to be with integrating factor

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wait so is it 5/t...

jolly nimbus
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I don't think you need an integrating factor for such an easy equation

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It would be juste dumb to ask for one

zinc leaf
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they did

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ask for one

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.

fallen galleon
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yes it is

zinc leaf
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ok nvm then

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what about for

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y' + 4y/x = x^(-4)

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is that also

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without an integrating factor

fallen galleon
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you have a 4/x multiplied with the y

zinc leaf
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yeah so uh..

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is the integrating factor

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uhmm

jolly nimbus
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The integrating factor is always exp(A(x)) if I'm not mistaken

zinc leaf
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yeah so

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what is it specifically

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like

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4y?

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but x is like

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on the bottom

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so idk..

fallen galleon
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the integrating factor is exp(integral of thing multiplied next to the y)

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the thing multiplied next to y is 4/x

zinc leaf
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oh

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so 4/x

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..

fallen galleon
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so its exp(integral 4/x)

zinc leaf
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ohhh

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okay

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yay

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thanks

sullen jungle
# zinc leaf what is it specifically

for every diff eq you gotta make sure to put the dy/dx as the first term with nothing in front, then you want the y term and everything else on the right hand side with no y.

whatever is in front of the y will be part of the integrating factor

$e^\int A(x) dx$

A(x) is the function in front of y

multiply the entire equation by the result of the e^integration and solve it

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zinc leaf
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ohhh okay

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thankss

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tall rapids
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$$
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}

\begin{document}

\textbf{Problem:} \
Let $a$, $b$, and $c$ be positive integers such that:
[
a + b + c = 2025
]
and
[
\gcd(a, b) = \gcd(b, c) = \gcd(c, a).
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What is the smallest possible value of $\max(a, b, c)$?

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tall rapids
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hlp

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white gate
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Hint: Khoảng cách gần bờ biển nhất là khoảng cách giữa tiếp tuyến tại "đỉnh" của đường cong với đường thẳng x+2y+1=0

somber thorn
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hmm

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giờ tìm đỉnh hả anh

white gate
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ko

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vẽ thêm tí cho dễ hình dung nhé

somber thorn
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có hệ số góc cuarbowf rồi

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giờ k của tt = hệ số góc

white gate
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à ừ

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thông qua hệ số góc cx đc

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2 góc xanh xanh này bù nhau nè

vale zephyr
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is this vietnamese

somber thorn
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hay tìm x y của điểm đó luôn cho nhanh anh

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yes

white gate
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đoạn xanh kia = 9 r

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góc xanh biển tính đc qua hệ số góc

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mình có bờ biển là y = -1/2 x - 1/2 nên suy ra k = tan(a) = 1/2 với a là góc nhọn xanh biển

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ok anh

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ionic magnet
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At what value of the parameter does the quadratic level have one real root?

thorn sorrel
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use the discriminant

ionic magnet
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i have m

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mx ^2 -… +m

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@thorn sorrel

wind oxide
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can you tell me what the discriminant is?

ionic magnet
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b^2- 4 ac

wind oxide
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well, comparing $ax^2 + bx + c$ to your equation, can you tell what $a, b,$ and $c$ are?

grand pondBOT
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rak³en

ionic magnet
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a = m
b = -(…)
c = -2?

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i dont know what for c

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is it maybe m-2?

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@wind oxide

wind oxide
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yeah sorry let me check

wind oxide
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b=-(1-2m)

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and a=m

ionic magnet
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thank you

wind oxide
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well now tell me

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how do you know a quadratic has real roots??

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hint: u equate the determinant to a specific value, and u can prove that its that value using the quadratic formula

ionic magnet
wind oxide
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m cant be 0

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discriminant has to be 0

last slate
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yup

last slate
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you know that

wind oxide
ionic magnet
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d

ionic magnet
last slate
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$$D = b^2 - 4ac$$
we know that
$$a = m$$
$$b = -1 + 2m$$
$$c = m-2$$
just substitute this into D and set D to 0
$$(2m - 1)^2 - 4(m)(m - 2) = 0$$

solve for m

grand pondBOT
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Edmund Cloudsley

ionic magnet
wind oxide
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yep thats correct

ionic magnet
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thanks for help man

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good luck

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restive pivot
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Can someone explain reducibility to me

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restive pivot
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Basically why is it that if A is reducible to B then
(1) If B is easy -> A is easy
(2) If A is hard -> B is hard
(3) If B is hard -> can't say anything about A
(4) If A is easy -> can't say anything about B

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How can I understand this in a more intuitive way

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restive pivot
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I guess just cuz we can transform a problem into a hard problem doesn't mean it itself is hard

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It can be easy

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So even if A is easy it can be transformed into a hard problem B

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But a hard problem A cant be transformed into an easy problem B

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So if B is easy so A has to be easy

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And so if A is hard B has to be hard

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I guess

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lusty bough
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question about trigonometry,

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lusty bough
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is it standard that you have to also do a pi-

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like here

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i get that the thing above results in 3x = sin (pi/2 -x)

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and the k + 2pi i also get, because that's a x amount of 360 rotations

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but the pi - on the right side isn't clear to me yet

dusty portal
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$\sin(\pi-x)=\sin(x)$, prove this.

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lusty bough
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thanks!

dusty portal
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lusty bough
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because cos 2pi -x = cos2pi * cosx + sin2pi sinx?

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= 1 cox x + 0sinx

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cosx*

orchid ibex
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ans cos2pi = 1
and sin2pi = 0

lusty bough
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thanks all

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got my reexam tommorow 😭

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had 50% previous time, so I need a little extra boost

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lusty bough
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🙏

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main frigate
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(super duper easy)easiest way of solving this with the subsititutemethod 1. 2x - y = 3 2. 2y - x = 9

sudden yacht
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Get y from the first equation and replace it in the second

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Or get x from the second equation and replace it in the first

lone whale
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u could also multiply the first equation by two and add the equations to each other

sudden yacht
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Yeah but I don't think that can be properly called substitution, I'd say it's sorta reduction

sudden yacht
lone whale
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the three ways work equally as well

main frigate
sudden yacht
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Whatever between which?

main frigate
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???

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All methods

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whatever you want

sudden yacht
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I don't get you 😢

main frigate
buoyant yoke
main frigate
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i will get decimals

buoyant yoke
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then you did it wrong

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im getting integers

sudden yacht
buoyant yoke
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recheck your calculations

sudden yacht
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But even if you get decimals/fractions, where's the issue?

main frigate
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okay so when i add -y = 3 - 2x to 2y - x = 9 what does it become

buoyant yoke
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why not write it as y=2x-3

main frigate
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cuz the y is negative

buoyant yoke
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wdym?

main frigate
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2x (-) y = 3 --> -2x to isolate y

sudden yacht
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By the way, how do you know y is negative if you still haven't found its value?

main frigate
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cuz its there

buoyant yoke
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\begin{align*}2x-y&=3\+y&+y\\hline 2x&=3+y\-3&-3\\hline 2x-3&=y\end{align*}

main frigate
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why does it become positive

sudden yacht
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Because you have to isolate it

main frigate
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what*?

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main frigate
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oh right i didnt see my bad

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but why do you add positives instead of just solving it normally

buoyant yoke
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what?

main frigate
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oh my ba

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d

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sorry

buoyant yoke
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i just isolate the y in the first equation

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and then you plug that into the second equation

main frigate
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Why do you have to make y positive to isolate it is what i meant

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becuase it would be easier to just subtract 2x

buoyant yoke
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i can also write $-y=-2x+3$, but thats not useful

grand pondBOT
buoyant yoke
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because we need to fill in positive y into the other equation

main frigate
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why do you need to do that

buoyant yoke
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the most useful form actually owuld be $2y=4x-6$

grand pondBOT
buoyant yoke
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look at the other equation $2y-x=9$

grand pondBOT
buoyant yoke
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there is a 2y

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and we know 2y=4x-6

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thus, we can substitute

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$\left.\begin{aligned}2y-x&=9\2y&=4x-6\end{aligned}\right}\implies (4x-6)-x=9$

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buoyant yoke
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make sense?

main frigate
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what are we even doing can we quick restart

buoyant yoke
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we are substituting

main frigate
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right

buoyant yoke
main frigate
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No I do know I just want to restart so I can see it from the begining

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it looks too messy

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HELLOOO

buoyant yoke
main frigate
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I dont know where you started solving for 2y = 4x -6

buoyant yoke
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we have 2x-y=3

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we want to isolate y

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can you do that for me?

main frigate
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right

buoyant yoke
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(write it as y=...)

main frigate
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okay

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y = 2x - 3 right

buoyant yoke
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yes

main frigate
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so now we add it to the second equation right

buoyant yoke
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now, fill that into 2y-x=9

main frigate
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wait i need to write this down its a question from my mathbook

buoyant yoke
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you werent writing along?

main frigate
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nop

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okay i did it

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like i solved it

buoyant yoke
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what did you get

main frigate
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i got x= 5 y = 7

buoyant yoke
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thats correct

main frigate
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yee

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thanks

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can u show me the other method

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you know where you multiply the first equation by 2

buoyant yoke
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its the same thing

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but instead of plugging in y, we plug in 2y

main frigate
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???

buoyant yoke
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its just changing in which step you do the *2

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i genuinely have no clue how youre confused

main frigate
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wasnt it some other method where you would combine both the equestions and make it to 1 solo equastion

buoyant yoke
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no?

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i did the same thing

main frigate
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whyd he say it was diffret

buoyant yoke
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what?

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who said it was different

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its the same thing

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just written differently

main frigate
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it wasnt u bruh

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either way to you get it?

buoyant yoke
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why didnt you say so then

main frigate
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i dont understand

lone whale
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que

buoyant yoke
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i thoguht you were talking about mine

main frigate
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i thought it was u

buoyant yoke
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but its adding the equations

sudden yacht
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Ohh that's completely another method, called reduction

main frigate
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exactly

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ye i wanna learn that

buoyant yoke
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you explicitly said with substitution

sudden yacht
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The one of Bonk is called substitution

main frigate
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yeah but it seemed intresting

sudden yacht
sudden yacht
lone whale
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do u want me to explain it or r u covered

buoyant yoke
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personally, i wouldnt ever solve this with substitution

main frigate
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just ur method

main frigate
lone whale
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ok so have you added equations before?

main frigate
main frigate
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is it like where you make everything = to y and combine them

sudden yacht
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No no

lone whale
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do u wanna explain?

sudden yacht
buoyant yoke
main frigate
lone whale
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right so in order to add equations together you need to choose a variable that will cancel out

sudden yacht
lone whale
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yall like

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the side convo here

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continuing, you have 2x-y =3 and 2y-x = 9

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to get a variable to cross out, you need the coefficients to match but their signs to be opposite (ex 2y and -2y)

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we already have 2y in the second equation, but not in the first

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so in order to change -y to -2y, we multiply the entire equation by 2

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2x-y=3 turns into 4x-2y=6

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now we can put the equations on top of each other to add them together

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lemme write it out so its easier to see

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now we add each variable in columns, add the ys together, the x together, and the other side of the equation

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the +2y and -2y cancel out, giving you 0

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2x + (-x) = x

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and 3+9 = 12

main frigate
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wait wait wait what did you do with 4x - 2y = 6

lone whale
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holy im tweaking

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one sec

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(u were supposed to use the altered equation lol)

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ok now u have 3x = 15, which solves to be x = 5

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then you can plug x=5 into either equation to solve for y

main frigate
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that was way easier

lone whale
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ye i like it better too lol

main frigate
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ur good at explainging

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ur american r ight

lone whale
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thanks lol

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yep

main frigate
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how does gpa work

finite karma
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very smart americano

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only if trump was as half smart as u

lone whale
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gpa is different depending on the school you go to

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in my school, gpa goes to a scale of 4.4 - A+ = 4.4, A= 4.0, A- = 3.7... etc

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when someones says weighted and unweighted what does that mean

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each letter grade in the courses you take corresponds with a number on your schools scale

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weighted GPA means your gpa is affected by the rigour of your classes

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if you take all honors and APs, you get more points by getting a good grade

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unweighted is only based on your grades, not on which courses you take

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and A in low math and A in high math would amount to the same

main frigate
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so having a 4.4 weighted is best

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its a fake stat

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only if u're applying for something

lone whale
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for my school, 4.4 is unweighted and corresponds with A+

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yeah its for college mainly

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your school might be different tho, youll wanna check out how your school does gpa

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how do you solve for your number

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I think its good

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and also why do you guys have so many extra clubs and things

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cuz its not enough to get into college with just grades now lol

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ye ye 100%

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sadly

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how long is a school day for ur grade

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i dont get this

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what is table 8.8

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o

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so their p = p1 and phi = mi1 so i guess you wan show that p o phi for example equals some element of p0, p1, ... m1, ...

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it seems like rho is working differently in these two cases

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yeah i can say rho * phi = rho1 * mu1 = mu3

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yea i realized mb

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cant read

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but it sounds like i'm supposed to draw a picture?

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yes

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your example with the triangles is good

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just need to understand

radiant roost
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i relabeled the vertices according to the permutation
but like rho is supposed to correspond to a rotation? but in the first case it's clockwise and in the second case it's counter-clockwise

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is it supposed to be like that?

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i think you applied it wrong

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applying p, which is p1 means 1 -> 2, 2 -> 3 and 3 -> 1 which would give you the rotation

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like it should be
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1 2

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phi is our mi1 okay

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yes

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yeah

dawn dagger
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now applying rho

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would rotate it ccw

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once

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1 -> 2 and 2 -> 3 so 1 -> 3

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i think writing it down phi o rho would help

radiant roost
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oh this is rho o phi

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cause they said i should apply the one on the right first

dawn dagger
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you have phi and apply rho so phi o rho

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1 -> 2 and 2 -> 3 so 1 -> 3
2 -> 3 and 3 - > 2 so 2 -> 2
3 -> 1 and 1 -> 1 so 3 -> 1
wait this basically just swaps 1 and 3

radiant roost
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rho o phi should swap 1 and 2 i think

dawn dagger
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1 -> 1 and 1 -> 2 so 1 -> 2
2 -> 3 and 3 -> 1 so 2 -> 1
yea

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i'm confused because this is a group action but we haven't defined the action

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you mean what u do with rho and phi?

radiant roost
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yeah how it affects the triangle

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actually....

dawn dagger
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i think the action is clearly applying one to the other, like rho o phi

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you apply phi onto rho

radiant roost
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this is what they say

dawn dagger
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but it should be reversed actually phi o rho

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the binary operation is composition

dawn dagger
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yea

radiant roost
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they said different authors use different orders for that

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really? hmmcatfone

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how do you have it defined

radiant roost
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yeah it says WARNING: some texts compute a product sigma mu of permutations in left-to-right order, so that (sigma mu)(a) = mu(sigma(a))

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bruh

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ok but then you still should end up showing it correctly

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if you decide for one

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oh wait so your rho * phi means phi(rho)

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uhh

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i kinda want to skip this question

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ok i see what u mean lol

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i think this only works if you apply it with itself

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that it resembles rotation

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whats the question? @radiant roost

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like how do i answer this?
were any of the images i posted correct?

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bottom right

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like rho tells u to swap 1 with the 2, the 2 with the 3 and 3 with the 1

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eeeh, looks tedious

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it said it here too

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that's what i'm saying, it's a group action

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yes

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ideally you open a channel with a quesiton

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no question as of now

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so whyd you open a channel?

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you can open a channel when you have a question

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ngl I still have imposter syndrome

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its discussy

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yeah I have perma-studying for 5 months lol

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whats the difference between perma-studying and studying

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perma-studying is requested by the mods and studying is just self-role

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you cant remove it?

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you can get rid of it at anytime

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yeah I cant lol

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after 5 months

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ohh liek that

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you set a timer

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the mods did

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yeah thats what i meant

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ok this is getting off-topic I should stop now opencry

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the channel should probably get closed because its unused

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noo

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i usually do

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youre not supposed to claim a channel when you have no question

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ok here it talks about using one model

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I guess they are considering 4 diff models, Im not sure whats happening tho, so eacg model has one feature?

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i think so?

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ok so just adding a new feature to create new model

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and you select best one before adding each feature

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Can someone explain this change in indices?

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Also, I'm very terrible in general with these indices changes, does anyone have tips/tricks?

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this equality is not true

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try it with n=2

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it would be true if it were $$n \sum_{k=0}^{n-1}\frac{1}{n-k} = n\sum_{k=1}^n \frac{1}{k}$$

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that's just summing the same terms in forward order vs reverse order

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(Linear Algebra) Hate to be a bother, but could someone help me with (e), I'm not sure why it's being so confused.
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Finding the dot-product. If we where to consider the vector y and z, they are of different dimensions, with y = 4 x 1 and z = 3 x 1, however, aren't we allowed to tranpose a vector to get the columns of vector y to be the same as the rows of vector z? such that y = 4 x 1 and z^T= 1 x 3?

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Is that a legal thing we can do, and then we can find the dot-product with that, even when the dimensions are not the same?

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the fact that the two vectors are of different dimension already means addition is not defined, let alone dot product

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Yeah, I just realized that. I'm not sure why I got confused so much. Much love big man

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how do you simplify (1-x^2)(1/2 square root x)

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rationalize, what I mean is, multiply sqrt(x) in the numerator and denominator of 1/(2sqrt(x)) to bring the square root to the numerator, then distribute

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like this?

tidal turret
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you added an extra 2sqrt(x) in the numerator next to the 1-x^2

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should be (1-x^2)(2sqrt{x})/((2sqrt{x} • 2sqrt{x})

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i dont understand how it is just times 2sqrt(x) because don't you multiply it by 1/2sqrt(x), or is it because it already has the same deminator so you only need to multiply the 1-x^2

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this is multiplication is not addition. so for example
a/b • c/d = (a×c)/(b×d) even if the denominator is not a common multiple, we multiply whats in the numerator with what it is in the numerator and we multiply what it is in the denominator with what its in the denominator

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Hey, unfortunately two transformations in the proof above are unclear to me. I suspect it's because the textbook I'm working with leaves out many steps and presents them in a compressed manner.

  1. When estimating row 1 to 2, I don't understand why the first row member is multiplied by the other row members. Shouldn't it be added up?

  2. In the 3rd line, the conversion to b^-m is a bit too quick for my understanding.

Maybe someone can give me a slightly more detailed explanation. Thank you very much

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,rccw

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solve xy''+y'=x

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ok first off the prime symbol is supposed to face the other way. you've got it more like a backtick

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anyway u := y' is good

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but then afterwards trying to integrate the thing as $\int \paren{-\frac{u}{x} + 1} \dd{x}$ will lead you nowhere

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ann.in.a.teacup

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hmm

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yeah..

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i thought so

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but what do i do then

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actually you can notice that $xu' + u = [xu]'$

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ann.in.a.teacup

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oh yeah.

lyric charm
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so you get $[xu]' = x$

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ann.in.a.teacup

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thus $xu = \frac12 x^2 + C_1$

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ohhhhhhhh

lyric charm
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calling it C1 because you will also have a C2 from integrating to get back to y

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(but divide by x first)

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mhm

finite karma
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u can slo just transform it to u'+(1/x)u=1 for x!=0 which u can solve with the general formula

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ohh

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yes

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then take for x=0 u will get y'=0

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which mean y=Constant

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since u solved earlier for y in geenral form

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if he asked u for a solution in the whole domain

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u just stretch the function

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meaning u take the limit for x=0 and see where y goes

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if its not infinity

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then its stretchable

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since the condition for the general solution was x!=0

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okok!!

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yw

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wait i have another question nvm...

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solve y'' + a^2/y^3 =0

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solve y'' + a^2/y^3 =0

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im kind of stuck i tried subbing y' as u?

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ohh no its fine dw dw

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soz

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wait sorry also for this question

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you find the orthogal trajectories of the family of curves y^2 = 4cx

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why do you have to replace dy/dx by -dx/dy

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Since m=-1/m_1 if m_1 is a perpendicular slope

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thanks

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And vice versa

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I'm trying to figure out the oblique asymptote for x to -inf, which is equal to y=-2x-2, as confirmed by geogebra. However, I get y=-2x. I do it as follows: for a, I just take the limit for f(x)/x = 2|x|/x, meaning a=-2. For b though, I take the limit x->-inf of f(x)-x= f(x)+2x . if I calculate the limit of f(x), I end up at 2|x|. Plugging that in for b I get 2|x|-2x=0 , which would mean y=-2x for the asymptote.

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What am I missing?

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f(x)-mx

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show how you computed the limits?

wintry tinsel
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I forgot the m in my explanation, you're right, but I did include it in my calculations (a)

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show them

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you mean limx->-inf f(x)? for x -> -inf, constants can be ignored so you get -(4x^3)/(-x) in the sqrt, simplifying to 4x². Taking the sqrt gives 2|x|

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so for f(x)/x it would simply be = -2, which gives m in y=mx+b. for f(x)-mx that would give 2|x|+2x= -2x+2x= 0 for x=-inf?

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is log gamma of exponential type

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By Stirling's approximation we have Γ(1+z) ≈ √(2πz) (z/e)^z

Taking log of both sides we get

ln(Γ(1+z)) ≈ ln(√(2πz)) + ln(z^z) - ln(e^z), which is asymptomatically log-linear in z. @wind oxide

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Only because it has poles. Otherwise it would be.

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so why do they matter

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Because |z| -> inf, not z -> inf

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For the first one I suppose I can just do something like:
$$A_1 = {a_{1,1}, a_{1,2}, a_{1,3}, \cdots }$$
$$A_2 = {a_{2, 1}, a_{2, 2}, a_{2, 3}, \cdots }$$
$$ \vdots$$
$$A_n = {a_{n, 1}, a_{n,2}, a_{n,3}, \cdots }$$
So then, define the set $A = A_1 \cup A_2 \cup A_3 \cup \cdots \cup A_n$:
$$A = {a_{1,1}, a_{2, 1}, a_{3, 1}, \cdots a_{n, 1}, a_{1, 2}, a_{2, 2}, a_{3, 2}, \cdots, a_{n, 2}, \cdots , a_{n,n} }$$

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that ending is a bit troublesome

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it feels as if you are stopping at just the first n elements of the n'th set

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also in general this notation is kind of treacherous

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Hmm

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you should instead work explicitly with bijections

verbal pumice
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How would I do that?

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also you should definitely say that the A_i can be assumed disjoint, and argue why it can be assumed so

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ok first

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does your N start from 0 or from 1

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1

lyric charm
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damn ok thats gonna be mildly annoying

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whatever

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ok so suppose all the $A_i$ are disjoint (we will figure out how to ensure this later on).
let the bijections $f_i : \bN \to A_i$ be given for each $i \in 1:n$, and also let $A := \bigcup_{i=1}^n A_i$.

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ann.in.a.teacup

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our goal will be to construct an explicit bijection f: N -> A

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Oh

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your idea of taking the first elements from each set followed by the second elements from each set and so on (where e.g. the element we reckon as first in A_i is f_i(1), the second is f_i(2) etc.) is fruitful

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Interlacing is always powerful

lyric charm
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so what you want is that 1, n+1, 2n+1, ... map to elements of A_1

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2, n+2, 2n+2, ... map to elements of A_2

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etc

verbal pumice
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Wait isn't this literally Hilbert's hotel thing

lyric charm
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it kind of is yes

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it's how to accommodate a finite number of countably-infinite buses of guests

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(taking the people already at the hotel as a bus in their own right and not otherwise giving them any special treatment)

verbal pumice
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i do not know the level of formality expected of you here

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Fair

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I guess I'll just say something like

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For the $k$th element in $A_i$, let $f$ map $f_i(k)$ to $in + k$

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verbal pumice
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works?

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i... think you've mixed a few things up

verbal pumice
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wait

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n - 1

lyric charm
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a lot

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first off it's N -> A

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k(n-1) + i ↦ f_i(k) is what you want

verbal pumice
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does it matter if its a bijection

lyric charm
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of course it does...

verbal pumice
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Let me write it up properly

simple field
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you can have X injecting into N to show countability

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Assume $A_i$ for $i \in {1, 2, 3, \dots, n}$ are disjoint countably infinite sets. Thus, there exist bijects $f_i : \mathbb{N} \to A_i$ for each $i$. Define $A = \bigcup_{i=1}^n A_i$. Our goal is to show that $A$ is also countably infinite. \
Consider the function $f$ that maps the positive integer $k(n-1) + i$ to $f_i(k)$.

simple field
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verbal pumice
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spacing 😵‍💫

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Wait I'm having trouble convinving myself that this is a bijection

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Okay wait nvm I was thinking of this wrongly

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@lyric charm for the second part will it do to just let n --> infinity

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Define a sequence of sets A_i

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no

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you do not "let n -> ∞"

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you're not doing limits

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that is not a thing you can do here

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you need an actually radically different construction

verbal pumice
lyric charm
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for this, i recommend first thinking about a bijection between N^2 and N.

verbal pumice
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I already have one

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From when I was proving the rationals are countable

simple field
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the issue with the idea of letting n->inf is that you would never reach k > 0, i.e. you would be stuck only choosing the first elements of each set

verbal pumice
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But n is still finite?

simple field
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no

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there isnt really an n, because we have infinitely many sets

verbal pumice
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Hmm

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What can be done then?

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Interlacing will no longer work

simple field
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well as ann said you need a totally different appraoch

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i would suspect you have seen the idea you need to use at some point in your lectures / textbook or however youre learning
if not its a bit cruel of a question but not impossible

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so i would say go back over your notes see if anything clicks

simple field
verbal pumice
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This isn't a regular class so there's actually no lecture textbook/notes

simple field
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so go and have a look at that and see if you can adapt it to this

verbal pumice
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It's complicated 😭

verbal pumice
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You have a finite number of elements in an infinite number of sets

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This is infinite elements, infinite sets

simple field
verbal pumice
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The way it was done was

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Arranging N^2 in a matrix

grand pondBOT
verbal pumice
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Which is essentially the diagonal elements

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Each of these sets had finitely many elements

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So you could just count them

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It was the number of sets which was infinite which didn't really matter

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But for this case it's the number of the elements in the set itself that's infinite eeveethink

simple field
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ah ok, let me draw you a picture of the more standard way this is presented

verbal pumice
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yeah I'm aware

verbal pumice
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sorry I should have made that clear

simple field
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sure nws

verbal pumice
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Oh wait

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Ohhhhhhh

simple field
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got it?

verbal pumice
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I can regard each column as a set

simple field
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yep !

verbal pumice
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And traverse in the same way

simple field
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perfect

verbal pumice
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I actually am interlacing but in a different way

simple field
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sometimes you just need to look at a picture haha

verbal pumice
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Yeah you're right 😭

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I think I got it from here

simple field
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nice

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I only have one more question, for which I'll open a new channel

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Thanks a lot!

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alpine cedar
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Hello I am having a bit of a hard time proving this lemme

\textbf{Lemma 1: }If $\gcd(a,b) = 1$ then $\gcd(a,b^n) = 1$

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Find Me

alpine cedar
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can someone push me on to the right track

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so far i tried contradcition but i feel like it doesnt work well

mortal sleet
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What course is this

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?

alpine cedar
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are you in hs?

mortal sleet
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Yh

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😭

alpine cedar
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what are you planning on studying @mortal sleet

mortal sleet
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Engineering

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Civil

alpine cedar
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what type

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oh ok sick, are you from the states

mortal sleet
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Albania 💔

alpine cedar
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are you planning on applying abroad or no

mortal sleet
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I think ill finnish university here in albania

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Might go to italy after tho

alpine cedar
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thats fair, its expensive to study abroad

mortal sleet
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My long term plan is either europe or usa

alpine cedar
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like western europe?

mortal sleet
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germany switzerland and so

alpine cedar
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i see

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my dad went to eastern europe for the un

mortal sleet
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Which country

alpine cedar
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he worked in kosovo so he knows a tad bit of albanian

mortal sleet
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Yooo actually?

alpine cedar
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ion really remember, but i think he visited greece, macadeonia, and some other countries

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yea, they speak albanian in kosovo no

mortal sleet
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Yea

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Was he born there ?

alpine cedar
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no

mortal sleet
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Oh 😅

alpine cedar
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<@&286206848099549185>

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been 15 minutes

mortal sleet
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Btw what are you studying

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This seems very high level

alpine cedar
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its not high level

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its an entry level proofs course

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like discrete math, math for cs

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my prof describes discrete math as the art of translating one thing into another thing

mortal sleet
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What major

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Math?

alpine cedar
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no im in cs

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second year cs

mortal sleet
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Whats cs

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Computer science?

alpine cedar
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yes

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theres literally no one showing u

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<@&286206848099549185>

mortal sleet
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Lol

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What would gcd(a,b) mean

alpine cedar
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its just saying the greater common denominator of a and b

mortal sleet
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Oh

alpine cedar
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yeah, its fairly simple and in proofs

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there is different ways to define it

mortal sleet
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Its seems simple to prove but lmao i cant imagine how to

alpine cedar
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and you prove different things with it

alpine cedar
mortal sleet
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Yh

alpine cedar
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even some of the simplier things have a pretty rigourous proof if you look at it

alpine quiver
alpine cedar
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and just direct proof

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i have been playing with bezouts for a bit, i havent gotten anywhere tho

alpine quiver
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ah idk sorry

alpine cedar
alpine quiver
mortal sleet
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If gcd of 2 numbers is 1 that means they are prime between each other?

alpine cedar
mortal sleet
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Well then

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I was thinking of something lol

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But its wrong i think

alpine cedar
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its all good

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i think you use bezouts

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wait lemme play around

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@alpine cedar Has your question been resolved?

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@alpine cedar

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If a,b are coprime

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Would that also mean that a,b^n are also coprime

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last slate
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Hi

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polar star
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hello

dawn dagger
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greetings

last slate
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Are these answers correct? Also I have no idea how to go about the last question

polar star
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(-m)^2 ≠ -m^2

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for part a

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4*4 ≠ 8

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your idea for part b and c is correct but fix part a to get the right answers

polar star
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m^2-16m

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for the last part, use the vertex formula
x = -b/2a

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you will get the x value at which max height is achieved. then plug it into the quadratic to get the max height

polar star
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why do you have n in your equation