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rose trout
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So then what do you have putting all of it together

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Yess

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That's pretty much it I think

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dark locust
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hellooo guysss in order to do graphical method, and find the graph of a function

i need to have two limits to evaluate right??

For example:

lim as it approaches to 4
and lim as it approaches to -4

and then i can check if the limit exists or if its DNE

or is it okay if i only evaluate one? Like only lim as it approaches to 4?

dark locust
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the question is weird i know but our task is to create word problems so i have questions abt this haha

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thank u guys

snow pumice
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Not sure I understand the question. You mean that if you were given, for example arctan([x^5 - x^2]/6), how to go about graphing it? As in, you need the asympotes etc?

dark locust
snow pumice
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btw thank you!

snow pumice
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npnp

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fair elbow
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can someone explain why we choose min of delta_1 and delta_2 instead of the maximum, specifically, would we not want the maximum such that |x-x_0| < delta, so we need the maximum for both to satisfy this?

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spring wave
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basically you want both f(x) and g(x) to be within range

fair elbow
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oh yea, forgot about it being an interval

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dawn dagger
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I was thinking of stating by factorising the curve

dawn dagger
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factorising the curve?

twilit field
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yeah

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(2x^2-xy-y^2)

dawn dagger
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oh bruh

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haha mb

twilit field
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$2x^2-2xy+xy-y^2 = 2x(x-y)+y(x-y) = (2x+y)(x-y)$

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?

grand pondBOT
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What a wonderful world!

dawn dagger
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seems right

twilit field
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Then I start with 2x+y = u, and x-y=t

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u=4, y=7, t=2, t=-1 become teh limits

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so $\int_{4}^{7} \int_{-1}^{2} ut du Jdt$

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?

grand pondBOT
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What a wonderful world!

dawn dagger
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how did you come up with that sub?

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but yea seems right

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but it should be dt du

twilit field
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dt du

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okay

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yeah

twilit field
dawn dagger
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was it suggested or you came up with that yourself?

twilit field
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I came up with it based on experience

dawn dagger
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I see

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you are now experienced

twilit field
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I've literally spent the entire week crying over vector calc lol

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last slate
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so [
N = (D < 1.5) \times (A \in [30^\circ, 45^\circ]) \times (T < 1) \times (P \geq 8)
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grand pondBOT
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𝕺𝓷𝓮_99x 💥

drifting birch
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? what

last slate
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[
N = 1 \times 1 \times 0 \times 1 = 0
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3x = 🐟 + 🍎 + 🍰

last slate
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$c_1(x-1) +c_2(x-1)^2+c_3(x-1)^3 = b_1x^3+b_2x^2+b_3x^2+b_4x+b_5$

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radiant roost
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would anyone be willing to check this?

next rover
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intuitively there should be like 4 things you can do

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left or right or a or b

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maybe i'm missing other

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yeah i guess there's more

radiant roost
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left is the sixth table and right is the eighth
a is the first and i think b is isomorphic to that

next rover
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max and min

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so at least 6

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trying to think of other

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like "bx = a, ax = x" is that a new one

radiant roost
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<@&268886789983436800>

graceful drum
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SCAM

kindred dagger
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steamncommunnuty

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W spelling

radiant roost
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i think max and min are isomorphic to the fifth table

radiant roost
next rover
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i don't get it

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like if you relabel 5th, it's not the same as itself

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you get 3 b and one a

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i can't even name an example where i see it's isomorphic tbh

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well 5th stays itself okay

radiant roost
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but if you have a table for max and a table for min, and you switch the labels in one of the tables, it will turn into the other table

next rover
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ah

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i'm lost

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ok you didn't list b

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so that makes sense

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no special letters yes special sides

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next rover
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here is min, max and "opposite of min"

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maybe two of them are equivalent but all three?

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ok sorry i'll give up

radiant roost
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thanks for taking a look

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i think the third one is different

next rover
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you have number 2 as "opposite of max"

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so that's fine

storm spindle
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I think 10 should be right. Looking through each of them, there seem to be 6 for which inversion results in a different structure

next rover
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how is 3 and 4 different if aaaa ≠ bbbb

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i mean =

radiant roost
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thanks 🙏

storm spindle
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Neither of them are isomorphisms between 3 and 4

next rover
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10 is right i googled it

storm spindle
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3 is isomorphic to the opposite of 4 and vice versa, I think

next rover
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why not have
ba
ab

storm spindle
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Isomorphic to
ab
ba
by inverse isomorphism

next rover
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nvm

storm spindle
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I think the intuitive idea is to invert every result and then switch upper right with lower left and upper left with lower right

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If it stays the same then the equivalence class has only one element

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If not then it has two

next rover
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thanks

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oh it's like
1 nothing
2 opposite when equal
3 right when different
4 left when different
5 same when equal
6−9 left right and opposites
10 "is equal?"

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prime hornet
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oops

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The base of a right parallelepiped is a rhombus with side 2. The angle between the planes of the side faces is 60°. The larger diagonal:
the parallelepiped makes an angle of 45° with the plane of the base. Calculate the volume of the parallelepiped.

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guys help me

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i dont understand

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:(((

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maybe reopen your channel first?

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rose mesa
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i do not know where to begin, i thought i did the correct thing doing 50% = 100(.975)^t and solving for t

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but that was incorrect

robust isle
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how do you end up with 28.87 ?

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@rose mesa

rose mesa
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50/100 = (.975)^t

ln(1/2) = ln(.975)^t

ln(1/2)/ln(.975) = t

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28.5~ was my original answer

robust isle
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yeah 28.5.. is what I got

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are you sure they don't want you to put an exact answer

rose mesa
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i tried 28 and 29

robust isle
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or maybe 3 correct decimals idk

rose mesa
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i tried that as well

robust isle
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idk what your software is

rose mesa
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webwork

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zinc leaf
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using x=6sintheta

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i did it but for some reason everything cancels out and i just get 1?? but the answer is pi/6

rain wasp
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show your work?

zinc leaf
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uhh like basically dx/dtheta is 6costheta and then

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u sub in x

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this

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and then u factor out the 36

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and bring it outside of the square root so its 6root 1-sin^2x

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and doesnt that equal 6cosx...

silent elbow
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I think you forgot to change integration boundries when you did the substitution

dusty portal
zinc leaf
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oh yeah oops i forgot that but like doesnt the bulk of it just cancel out to 1??

dusty portal
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It's meant to cancel out.

zinc leaf
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oh.

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wait then uhm.

dusty portal
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$\int\frac{1}{\sqrt{36-x^2}}dx=\arcsin(\frac{x}{6})+C$.

zinc leaf
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yar

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but how do i get that from like

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the cancelled out

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.

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dusty portal
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Try to solve for the antiderivative first.

zinc leaf
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like this is what i got

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.

dusty portal
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Yeah.

zinc leaf
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.

dusty portal
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Again, change the bounds of integration.

zinc leaf
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WAIT

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uhh

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OH HELP I FORGOT

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OK THANKS

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lol

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lucid rivet
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Solve 24

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I write on my page 108/2=54 for a and b

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Would this be correct?

sleek cloud
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I cannot see what are a and b labelled as

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There @sleek cloud

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oblique gyro
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I’m so close i just keep on getting -sinx is there somewhere where i could’ve gotten rid of a sign so it gives me sinx not -sinx/cosx

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sharp wave
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can someone help im pretty sure we have to complete the squares but how do i start?

sharp wave
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no shit bruh

old rampart
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ok so do it

sharp wave
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i did it after taking all the terms to the rhs how do i proceed

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lhs*

old rampart
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can you send your work

sharp wave
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i havent done much tbh i just expanded and took them all to one side thats where i need help

white gate
sharp wave
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yes

white gate
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hence, substitute x = 3b and y = 5c

sharp wave
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wont that require a 10ac term?

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or a 6ab term

white gate
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no?

sharp wave
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if youre trying to do (a + 3b+ 5c)^2?

white gate
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15bc + 5ac + 3ab = (5b)(3c) + a(5c) + a(3b)

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then it becomes a^2 + x^2 + y^2 = ax + ay + xy

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im sure what you can do now

sharp wave
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(a/sqrt2 -x/sqrt2)^2?

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and similarly for the other 2 terms

white gate
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yea

sharp wave
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ok, i can proceed from here

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thank you so much

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royal vigil
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help again

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royal vigil
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if A, B and C are angles of a triangle

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$\cos A+\cos B+\cos C-1=4\sin\left(\frac{A}{2}\right)\sin\left(\frac{B}{2}\right)\sin\left(\frac{C}{2}\right)$

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prove this

visual tiger
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im supposed to use factor formulae here i just have no clue how

visual tiger
royal vigil
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like idk what im even supposed to be grouping

visual tiger
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we can start with that

visual tiger
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like I'm not against trying to use those

buoyant yoke
royal vigil
visual tiger
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but I think linearization is much easier

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basically

visual tiger
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look at the RHS

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4sin(A/2)sin(B/2)sin(C/2)

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let's take 2sin(A/2)sin(B/2) for example

visual tiger
royal vigil
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Dude ik the second set

visual tiger
royal vigil
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its like

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2sinAsinB = blahlah

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But idk how u could even

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Like ok ur gonna do the first pair

visual tiger
royal vigil
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and then sinC/2 is left alone

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when i searched linearization on google it showed me calculus stuff sooo

royal vigil
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sinC/2 ends up alone

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say u have

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(2sinA/2sinB/2)(2sinC/2)

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second term doesn't have a pair

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u can't use a formula on it

visual tiger
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and wait until you apply product formula on the first

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so

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apply formula for 2sinA/2sinB/2

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what do you get?

royal vigil
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cos(A - B)/2) - cos((A + B)/2)

visual tiger
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ok

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so we now have

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$\left(\cos\left(\frac{A-B}{2}\right)-\cos\left(\frac{A+B}{2}\right)\right)\left(2\sin\left(\frac{C}{2}\right)\right)$

royal vigil
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2sinC/2

grand pondBOT
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rafilou is not not born in 2003

visual tiger
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yes sorry

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so

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do you see now?

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how to continue

royal vigil
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idk

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hold on

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let me try

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(cosA + cosB) / 2cos(A + B)/2) - (cosA + cosB) / (2cos(A - B)/2)

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idk

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it doesn't look like a solution

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$\left(\cos A+\cos B\right)\left(2\cos\left(\frac{\left(A-B\right)}{2}\right)\right)-\left(\cos A-\cos B\right)\left(2\cos\left(\frac{\left(A+B\right)}{2}\right)\right)$

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royal vigil
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its too complicated lol it does not make sense

visual tiger
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I don't understand what happened here

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it's maybe a bit too complicated

visual tiger
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you should expand the product

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(x+y)*z

royal vigil
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y tho

visual tiger
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to linearize again?

royal vigil
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o

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wait

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i see it

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well

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kinda

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idk

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nope

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still nothing

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$\left(\sin\left(\frac{\left(C+A-B\right)}{2}\right)+\sin\left(\frac{\left(C-A+B\right)}{2}\right)-\sin\left(\frac{\left(A+B+C\right)}{2}\right)+\sin\left(\frac{\left(A+B-C\right)}{2}\right)\right)$

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royal vigil
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This is what u end up w

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which makes no sense

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its 4 terms which idk how to convert to cosA + cosB + cosC - 1

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this is what chatgpt does which doesn't seem too bad

visual tiger
visual tiger
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remember what A+B+C =

royal vigil
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oh

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180

visual tiger
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and reexpress each term as sin or cos of a single angle

royal vigil
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sin90 = 1

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right

visual tiger
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yep

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now

royal vigil
visual tiger
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it doesn't hurt using A+B+C = 180 again

visual tiger
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A+B-C is close to A+B+C too for example

royal vigil
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so

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we don't know what c is

visual tiger
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we don't need to know

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what's the difference between A+B-C and A+B+C

royal vigil
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one of them is 180 and one of them isnt??

visual tiger
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yeah, and the other one

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how do you get to A+B+C?

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in the easiest way

royal vigil
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wdym

visual tiger
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what do you change to A+B-C

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to make it A+B+C

royal vigil
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+2C

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y wont my message send lord help me

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+2C.

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It wasn;t meant to be I;m not meant to solve this

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nvm yes it was

visual tiger
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yes it's +2C

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so

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A+B-C = A+B+C - 2C

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now use that

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and do the same with the other terms

royal vigil
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so

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do i add 2c

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oh

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Bro whys my internet fucking up omg

royal vigil
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how does this help

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sin((A + B - C)/2 + 2C)

visual tiger
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no

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you're not supposed to change anything

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you can rewrite stuff tho

visual tiger
royal vigil
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so

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sin((A + B + C - 2C)/2)

visual tiger
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yes

royal vigil
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how does that change anything

visual tiger
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that is sin((A+B-C)/2)

visual tiger
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what's A+B+C

royal vigil
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180 but

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the -2c is still there

visual tiger
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so we keep it

royal vigil
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wait

royal vigil
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thats still 2c though

visual tiger
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no

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2C/2

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= C

royal vigil
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oh

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wai

visual tiger
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idk how you got 4C even

royal vigil
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whered the

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Oh

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woops

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Ohhh

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i see the pattern

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so u js do that for the rest like

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C + A - B = A + B + C - 2B

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cosB

visual tiger
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yes

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yes

royal vigil
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ah okay

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finally after like 30 minutes solved this

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thank u sm

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manic bison
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How to apply combinatorics here?

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modest star
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think about 98 balls and 3 barriers

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G1 | G2 | G3 | G4

manic bison
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Huh?

modest star
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treat x1,x2,x3,x4 as 4 groups

manic bison
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Okay

modest star
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if we take a smaller example, say x_1 + x_2 + x_3 = 7, i want to count all ordered triplets

manic bison
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2 barriers?

modest star
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yes!

manic bison
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Okay so what to do next?

modest star
manic bison
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ohhhh

modest star
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then, notice that all you need to do is find the number of ways to arrange these objects

manic bison
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Number of permutations?

modest star
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yes

manic bison
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Could you explain with an example

modest star
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sure

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lets take a small example so we can manually enumerate all possibliites

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x_1 + x_2 = 3

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one barrier

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manic bison
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oh!

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So we shift the position of the barrier?

modest star
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yes, or you can think of it as permuting AAAB

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there are 4! ways to do this

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but we dont want to overcount the permutations where the A's switch places

manic bison
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4! / 3!

modest star
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yes

manic bison
modest star
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yes

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the original question is a bit different since it says we need to deal with positive odd integer

manic bison
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Yeah

modest star
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the reg stars and bars thing accounted for nonnegative integers

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so find a way to transform positive odd -> nonnegative

manic bison
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maybe assume 2n-1?

modest star
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i would suggest 2n+1 though

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just so when n = 0, we get positive numbers

manic bison
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Oh i see

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And then just permute the barriers and balls i guess

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Thanks a lot

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yes

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I tried using $\abs{r(t)} = \sqrt{r(t) \cdot r(t)}$

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What a wonderful world it is !

twilit field
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But to no avail

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what happened ?

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Are you sure, that works pretty fine

twilit field
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Like that gave me $\frac{1}{2 \sqrt{ r(t) \cdot r(t)}} (r(t) \cdot r(t))'$

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|x| = (x²)^(1/2)
Use power rule:
y' = 1/2 (x²)^(-1/2) * 2x

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yeah and the derivative of that dot prod is exactly 2 r(t) . r'(t)

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Nah nvm that's more wrong than I thought

modern sapphire
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break into cases, and the first half is just sgn(r(t))

last arch
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Should give you $\frac{2 \cdot r(t) \cdot r'(t) }{2 \sqrt{r(t) \cdot r(t)}}$

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the product rule is actually true for the dot product also

twilit field
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Ah

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$\dv{}{t} \left(f(t) \cdot g(t)\right) = f(t) \cdot \dv{g}{t} + \dv{f}{t} \cdot g(t)$

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in general

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it's not too hard to prove from the usual 1D product rule

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I have trouble understanding how these 2 equations work.

The question I got asked was, show that cos(-60 deg) = cos(660 deg). How could I prove that with these equations?

kindred dagger
formal shore
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600

sharp wave
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are you sure

formal shore
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or 720

kindred dagger
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Its also good to know know that $\sin$ and $\cos$ have a period of $360^\circ$.

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formal shore
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So now I've found the difference between them, how could I proceed with proving that they're the same?

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because the only way I can currently 'prove' it

kindred dagger
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I like to believe i do, the only way I could describe is if alpha here is 60 degrees, and we were to go 360 deg around, we'd end up in the same spot

umbral mesa
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-60 % 360 == 660 % 360

formal shore
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Do that 2 times and you get 660 degrees

kindred dagger
formal shore
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But how could I mathematically write this down?

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Ah alright

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So it doesnt even really need to be done with an equation?

kindred dagger
formal shore
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2x

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Cosine has a period of 360 degrees so I’ve always just modulo it

kindred dagger
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So in your equation $\cos(v + n \cdot 360^\circ) = \cos(x)$, what variable is $2$?

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King Leo

formal shore
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n

kindred dagger
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$$\cos(v + 2 \cdot 360^\circ) = \cos(v)$$

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King Leo

kindred dagger
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And what is v

umbral mesa
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And -60 and 660 modulos are the same

formal shore
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Ah alright

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So

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I'm not sure if this is allowed, but we can take out the core which we can put as

660 = -60 + n * 360, and then simply solve for n

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And if you find that n is an integer, then you can say the cosine of both angles are equal

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Yeah right, thanks, helps to discuss those kinds of question haha

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How do I finish this?

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No l'hopital?

dusty aspen
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I don't know hot to continue

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Is approximation allowed

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Might be a bit cheaty

dusty aspen
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No? Maybe I start wrong.

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How to solve this?

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try writing it in e raise to something

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since it’s 1^inf form

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i mean he's trying

sharp wave
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oops

dusty aspen
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this is good start or no?

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The (x+2) is kinda hurting my eyes, so try taking ln both sides

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The thing in bracket is also obviously simplify-able

dusty aspen
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we must have (1+1/x)^x to get e

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so how do I do this

white gate
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You can take ln both sides and evaluate an entirely new limit

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which i think might be easier

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I did all like this and feel better continuing doing it the old way 🙂

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I know the procedure roughly, just stuck

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RHS might be easier to do now ig

dusty aspen
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How do I do it with e

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you just need to evaluate the RHS limit then e^ everything

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RHS approaches -2, so L -> e^(-2)

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(does that count as an usage of e?)

dusty aspen
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don't I need to change x in the exponent to match one in denominator?

white gate
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why do you have to be so hesitant about simplifying the thing in the bracket

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all can be divided by 2

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wouldn't that make the calculation easier

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anyways if doing it your way then:

dusty aspen
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why did you change the task

white gate
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No?

white gate
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I have emphasized that so many times yet you treat it like its nothing

dusty aspen
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sorry, I am brain-fried also, just had an exam

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oof

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I get it now

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you factorized

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yeah

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$(-1) * (-1)^2 * (-1)^3 * (-1)^4 * .... * (-1)^{2019}$

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Simon James B

vocal mauve
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idk how to solve this or what to do i never did problems like these before

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i need guidance

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i don't know how to solve problems with ... at all

runic hamlet
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cut off the ... and everything after that

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what happens if you only have the first four terms

vocal mauve
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what if you also have the next term

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i.e. the (-1)^5

vocal mauve
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-1

runic hamlet
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what if you include the (-1)^6 ?

vocal mauve
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-1 final answer

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not even exponent?

runic hamlet
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not quite sure what you mean

vocal mauve
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the power of the last term

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is odd

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so we get -1

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?

runic hamlet
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no

vocal mauve
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ok. if you include the next one

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1

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then ^7 gives us -1

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^8 gives us 1 again

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and so on

runic hamlet
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can you write a table?
number of terms | result

vocal mauve
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or not on discord?

runic hamlet
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just write the rows as individual messages

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dont worry too much about the formatting

vocal mauve
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ok

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or shift-enter for newline without sending it

vocal mauve
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Power | result
1 | -1
2 | 1
3 | -1
4 | 1
5 | -1
6 | 1
7| -1
8| 1
9 | -1
10 |1

runic hamlet
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no

vocal mauve
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?

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i don't understand

runic hamlet
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if you have two terms, what is the result

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youre trying to jump too fast at guessing the pattern

vocal mauve
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(-1)(-1)^2 = -1 * 1 = -1

runic hamlet
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yes

vocal mauve
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(-1)(-1)^2 (-1)^3 = -1 * 1 * -1 = 1

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(-1)(-1)^2 (-1)^3 (-1)^4 = -1 * 1 * -1 * 1 = 1?

runic hamlet
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yes

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(-1)(-1)^2 (-1)^3 (-1)^4 (-1)^5 = -1 * 1 * -1 * 1 * -1 = -1?

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(-1)(-1)^2 (-1)^3 (-1)^4 (-1)^5 (-1)^6 = -1 * 1 * -1 * 1 * -1 * 1 = -1 ?

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(-1)(-1)^2 (-1)^3 (-1)^4 (-1)^5 (-1)^6 (-1)^7 = -1 * 1 * -1 * 1 * -1 * 1 * -1 = 1

runic hamlet
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yes

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so with each new odd exponent, what happens?
with each new even exponent, what happens?

vocal mauve
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i don't see it

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With each odd it gets positive?

runic hamlet
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no

runic hamlet
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write the table again

vocal mauve
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Type | result
even | -1
odd | 1
even |1
odd | -1
even |-1
odd|-1
even | 1

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i don't understand this at all srry

runic hamlet
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thats not the table headings I gave you

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and the second to last row is wrong

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1 | -1
2 | -1
3 | 1
4 | 1
5 | -1
6 | -1
7 | 1
8 | 1
9 | -1
10 | -1
11 | 1

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the firt number means the number of terms right?

runic hamlet
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yes

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12 | 1

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and so on

runic hamlet
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what is the pattern?

vocal mauve
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2 negatives 2 positives

vocal mauve
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let me think

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first odd exponent gave us -1

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first even exponent gave us (-1)(-1)^2 = -1 * 1 = -1 still -1

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that means the next odd exponent will give us 2 negatives and the next even exponent will give us 2 positives? maybe i am wrong

runic hamlet
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wdym give 2 negatives

vocal mauve
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like the next 2 exponenets will be negative

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^1 = -1
^2 = -1
^1 gave us 2 negatives
^3 = 1
^4 = 1

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the first even gave us 2 positives

runic hamlet
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but the 2 gives you the -1

vocal mauve
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this confuses me so badly

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don't tell me i gotta do this until 2019 cuz imma explode

runic hamlet
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so, the first term gives us the -1

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then the next term doesnt change it, still -1

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the third term changes it to 1

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the fourth term doesnt change it, still 1

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the fifth term changes it to -1

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the next one doesnt change it, still -1

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then change to 1 again

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so at each odd exponent we switch

vocal mauve
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yes

runic hamlet
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and at each even exponent we stay the same

vocal mauve
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i see it

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that means

white gate
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what

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he understood it right

vocal mauve
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i got it

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2019 is odd so we switch

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but what is the sign we switch from

white gate
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I mean the whole (-1)(-1) doesnt matter since there is always odd (-1) if the exponent is odd

runic hamlet
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we need to count how often we switched

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aka, how many odd numbers we have encountered

vocal mauve
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i swear there would be a formula for this

runic hamlet
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there is

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but its ok to not know it immediately

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we can again write a table

white gate
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can i see the formula-

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i doubt in my exam i will take 1 hour to check for the pattern-

runic hamlet
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n | number of odd numbers encountered
1 | 1
3 | 2
5 | 3

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can you guess a formula from that?

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you need to learn do analyse patterns like this. there is no use in me telling you the formula

vocal mauve
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let me think

runic hamlet
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if you cant guess it yet then continue the table

white gate
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wait am i missing something

Cant u just do sum of all the powers

runic hamlet
vocal mauve
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let's continue the table i do not see any formula

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not a formula we learned at least

white gate
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well i just spoiled one

white gate
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1+2+3+...+n

vocal mauve
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nope idk

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It's the gauss thingy but i forgot the formula

runic hamlet
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forget that sum idea for now

vocal mauve
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fine

runic hamlet
vocal mauve
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1 | 1
3 | 2
5 | 3

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n is the odd number?

runic hamlet
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yes

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you can also include the rows with the even numbers but I think that would be distracting

vocal mauve
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7 | 4

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9 | 5

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?

runic hamlet
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yes

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11 | 6
13 | 7
15 | 8

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can you guess a formula now?

vocal mauve
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i need to think of a common rule

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but idk how to formulate it for the formula

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nope no idea

runic hamlet
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nothing?

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vague ideas are fine

vocal mauve
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no ide

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idea

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i am so dumb i am sorry

runic hamlet
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the left number is always nearly twice the right number

vocal mauve
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nearly

runic hamlet
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in fact, left = 2*right-1

vocal mauve
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2 * even - 1

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?

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but no

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yes actually nvm

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but how does this help to figure it out for 2019

runic hamlet
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2019 = 2*right -1

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what is the number on the right

vocal mauve
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i can't

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i can't do this i am to non-logical

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my brain gave a error

runic hamlet
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adding 1 on both sides gives
2020 = 2*right

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dividing by 2 on both sides gives
1010 = right

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so the number on the right is 1010

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2019 | 1010

vocal mauve
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what is the formula for the sum

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it's easier

runic hamlet
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$(-1)\cdot(-1)^2\cdot(-1)^3\cdot(-1)^4\cdots(-1)^{2019} = (-1)^{1+2+3+4+\ldots+2019}$

grand pondBOT
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Denascite

runic hamlet
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by exponent laws

vocal mauve
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yep

runic hamlet
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1+2+...+2019 = 2019*2020/2

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which is even

vocal mauve
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(n*n+1)/2?

runic hamlet
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yes

vocal mauve
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gauss formula?

runic hamlet
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parenthesis please

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yes

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n*(n+1)/2

vocal mauve
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yep

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is all of n*(n+1) /2 or just n+1

runic hamlet
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doesnt matter

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same thing

vocal mauve
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this one is much easier

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i don't think i will ever understand ... problems

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I have lots more problems like this and i will never get them right

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ty

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Let $G$ be a finitely generated group such that every normal subgroup of $G$ is either trivial or finite index. Prove that $G$ is either finite or simple.

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Just a quick confirmation i need about this, but if G is not simple then there exists a unique maximal normal subgroup M such that G/M is simple and finite, is that correct?

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@smoky coral

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I think the structure must eventually collapse to either a unique maximal normal subgroup or a simple quotient no matter

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u r gonna have an infinite chain of infinite normal subgroups right

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but it wont be unique

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at least one maximal normal exists

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oh yea

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ok this makes snese

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my head flew somewher eelse

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is the rest fine tho

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you need that G f.g. + M f.i. => M f.g.

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so like

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Ok wait i think im a bit unconvinced still

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so lets assume G has two distinct normal subgroups M_1 and M_2 right

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their intersection must also be normal in G

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but isnt M_1 \cap M_2 a proper normal subgroup of each M_i? so like u contradict the fact that they are maximal unless they're nonunique

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how does that contradict maximal

gaunt jetty
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<@&268886789983436800> lmao

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ty hayley

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i get it now dw

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is a = 1.5

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since r is max when sin pheta is -1

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a = 1.5

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Looks correct

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can u also help me with this

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oh shruber doobers

karmic trench
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@rigid zenith i assume i just sub the equivlanet of 5cos3pheta + cos5pheta

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wait which one r u doing

karmic trench
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part c

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Yeah honestly idk 😭 it’d take me a while to figure this out

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Also how in the world do you show such a thing

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have u learnt de moivres theorem

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Nope not yet

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I kinda skipped precalc 😢

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Might wanna go back to that in the near future

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well then you probably havent learnt about expressing sin and cos in terms of cosnx or sinnx

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it has you scratching your head a lot

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But idk

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I can’t really help you out confidently with this one

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Sorry 😞

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but maths wouldnt be interesting if it was not difficult

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does this make sense?

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i cant help but feel like its totally wrong

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and then i tried to apply a conversion factor but is 6400cm^2 a reasonable number?

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i dont have a lot of experience with this

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can't tell without the question

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oh the research question was to determine if larger leaf surface area was correlated with a larger tree height

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so like to determine if trees have bigger leaves so they can photosynthesize more and grow taller than other trees

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like as an adaptation

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Do a P test then

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Then do a P test to determine whether to accept or reject the null hypothesis

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@vocal briar

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quick question here shall i make two transition graph for each process ? i have posted my attmept to sketsh the system

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@remote halo Has your question been resolved?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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i wanna also calacute the number of reachble states

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i have calacuted the number of states for each comp shall i add or multiply them ?

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any hint ?

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last slate
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Then you connect them to a global transition graph using the shared events

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you mean the internal connection

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hiii nice meet you im newer here xd i could make a question this is like my frist time in discord, i want to make a proyect with mathematics, the unific of theorems xd i will like to said so many theorems and use togheter for have an analysis more specific, is possible???

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check another unoccuiped help channel

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it is occuiped here

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i wanna also to formally justify the ack1 transition in addition one tau transition

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slr

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thanks alot bro

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Can someone please help me on this question:

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I don't how to get started because idk how I'm supposed to draw it out

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Ok Mr Ramen

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Now do you know the volume of a cone ?

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mint ravine
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Yes

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What is it ?

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$\pi \cdot r^2 \cdot \frac {h}{3}$

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RamenNoodleMan21

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Nice

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Now let's focus on the base of radius r ...
Can you tell me anything about that base ?

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What information do we know about it ?

mint ravine
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side length of triangle is 14

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so radius is 7

brisk iris
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So what does the side of a triangle become in your cone

mint ravine
brisk iris
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Your basis

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look at how it's formed

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How is the basis of the cone formed

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?

mint ravine
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the equilateral triangle was revolved about an altitude to make the cone

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so the base of the triangle and the base of the cone is equivalent

brisk iris
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can you find the radius ?

mint ravine
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two times the right triangle makes our equilateral triangle, right?

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Look at the base

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we're not thinking about the height yet

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Can you find a formula for r ? the radius of the base

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the circumference of your base is equal to one side of the triangle. Can you see it ?

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we can find h if we know radius = 7 using the formula

brisk iris
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Look at the little circle in the base. That used to be a triangle side

dusty portal
brisk iris
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I know, but if you wan tot know the volume, you need to figure out the radius of the base AND the height

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Since you already asserted that one side length will be the slant height, what can we do to find the height?

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Dude

dusty portal
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brisk iris
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The radius is NOT 7

brisk iris
dusty portal
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The circle will have radius 7. Read the problem again.

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<@&268886789983436800> spam

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<@&268886789983436800> If it’s not supposed to be pingable, sorry.

brisk iris
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2Pir = 14
r = 7/Pi

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14^2-7^2=147

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take the square root and you can root 147

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Or, @mint ravine , how do you interpret it?

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I just imagined that the side lengths of the triangle and the cone stayed constant and equivalent throughout the entire process of being revolved about the altitude

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I just sort of imagined the triangle being like rotated in a 360 degree to form a cone

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Which is what I thought as well.

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I don’t know how else this could be interpreted, really.

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Anyways, if you want to continue with my method and see if it’s right, go ahead.

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ok!

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Your radius and height are correct; all you have to do is plug it in now.

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got it

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thanks i got the answer 622 and it was correct

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thanks for helping

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hello, can someone explain to me why this set of choices is not correct?

faint tree
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the answers i chose either have zero volume in R^2 or they are not part of the event space Σ

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here's the definition im using

cobalt nest
faint tree
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yeah this is apparently incorrect

cobalt nest
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which one

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no idea

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it just says incorrect

ancient ridge
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Is C true the way you have it set up?

cobalt nest
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Omega is the square

faint tree
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if it's outside the square then it's not in the event space right?

cobalt nest
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apparently

faint tree
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so i thought the probability should just be 0

ancient ridge
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I'm asking if a vector outside of the square is sigma measurable, of if your definitions just by default assign it a probability of zero

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*or if

cobalt nest
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$1=P(\omega) = 1 - P(\omega^c)$

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Goëtia

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actually if it's outside the square it is in Σ because Σ contains the empty set

cobalt nest
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but whats the probability

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i dont know