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queen herald
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Yes

quaint field
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btw how do I check the answer using wolfram

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I guess I can try a specific value of the radius

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but how do I make it calculate the flux

queen herald
quaint field
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the thing is that I am not 100% confident my integral is right

queen herald
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Unfortunately I don't know any tools that calculate the flux given the vector field and the contour

quaint field
queen herald
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That's clearly not the case

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Nvm it is

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Calculating divergence in head isn't always successful from the first try XD

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,w Integrate[(R^2 + R Cos[t])/(1+R^2+2 R Cos[t]), {t,0,2 Pi}]

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queen herald
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Good news is that we get the same answer, actually

queen herald
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I checked 😅

midnight plankBOT
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quaint field
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oh wow

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it's always 2*pi for R>1 and 0 for R<1

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how is that even possible lol

queen herald
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Clearly visible from this integral times R

quaint field
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so I guess you can just use green's theorem and the problem is 100% easier then

queen herald
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Yes

quaint field
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damn

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that is one powerful theorem

queen herald
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Tbf it depends on luck

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No one guarantees that div(F)=0

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It could be some scary expression which you would have to integrate over the unit disc

quaint field
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the only issue is at (0,0) the denominator becomes 0

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which makes sense because I don't think the divergence would be 0 there

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it would be positive since the vector field is radiating outward?

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how would I calculate it though

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oh, the way they did it was genius

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they considered a small circle around the origin, for which the flux is easy to calculate

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and then the rest of the region just has div being 0

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so it's just becomes the flux of the small circle, which is 2pi

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wow

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thanks for the assistance btw, @queen herald, I appreciate it

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queen herald
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Gives vibes of complex analysis

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How do I rotate a picture here?

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deep junco
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I need to rotate some picture

hazy parrot
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,rotate

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deep junco
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Turn it to the left side please

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Thx!

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latent elk
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what language is that

hazy parrot
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i think

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He is done turning the image

hazy parrot
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yeah

worthy wing
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By the context

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So his question is just doing that?

hazy parrot
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yes

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xD

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This is so hilarious

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.closee

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sorry guys

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naive aspen
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hello i need help im in factoring cases and doesnt matter what i do the answer never matches with the answer keys so please help

worthy wing
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You can use the fact that (x-1) is a factor

naive aspen
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yes i did try that but at the end it doesnt match with the answer key

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i asked everyone but all they did was dissapear the -2 for no reason and they got the answer so idk

worthy wing
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Can u write here the denominator?

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I cant read well

naive aspen
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x4 + x3y - x + y

worthy wing
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You can’t factor that

naive aspen
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the numbers are exponents

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you can factor it by grouping

fallow scarab
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x(x^3-1) + y(x^3-1)

naive aspen
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gcf by grouping

worthy wing
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Oh it is exponent

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I see

naive aspen
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wait

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what happened to the -2

fallow scarab
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To save some time take a picture of the original problem

naive aspen
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i wrote it right

worthy wing
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Do you have a picture of the original book?

naive aspen
fallow scarab
naive aspen
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alr

fallow scarab
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Oh the - is on x^3 y term

worthy wing
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That makes more sense

fallow scarab
naive aspen
fallow scarab
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x(x^3-1) - y(x^3-1)

worthy wing
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Copy the exercise correctly random

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And try again

naive aspen
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what?

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BRUH

worthy wing
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-x^3y

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Not +

fallow scarab
naive aspen
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yeah uhhhh

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im blind

worthy wing
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I was upset lol

fallow scarab
worthy wing
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Xd

naive aspen
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lol

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ok

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i still need help in the numerator

worthy wing
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(x-1) is clearly a factor

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Do long division

fallow scarab
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-2 =-1-1

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And x^6-1 = (x^3-1)(x^3+1)

naive aspen
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ok wait

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wich factoring case is that?

worthy wing
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a^2-b^2

fallow scarab
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Verify my hints. Then figure out your problem with the hints

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,calc -1-1

grand pondBOT
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Result:

-2
naive aspen
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alr

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and then what happens to the x to the power of 3?

worthy wing
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What do u mean

naive aspen
fallow scarab
naive aspen
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ik

worthy wing
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You have this $x^6+x^3-2$
Which is the same as $x^6-1+x^3-1$

grand pondBOT
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Samuel

naive aspen
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hmmm

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so the x to the power of 3 -1 is another case then

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because i cant divide the exponent by 2

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thx

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i already know what to do here

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barren parcel
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how did they get their answer?

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viral dagger
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do you know the geometric progression formula and your supposed to apply it here, or are you supposed to work your way to figuring out the geometric progression formula?

barren parcel
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i think im supposed to apply the geometric progression formula?

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but then wouldnt that be 3(1/10)^n-1?

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how do they get from that to 3.1^(1-n)

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robust prism
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i think the answer is wrong? for example to verify, n=1 doesn't even give us 3 with that formula

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that checks out

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pastel wyvern
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how to do 13a

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ans is (0,2,12)

west iron
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Do you know how to find the point on the line closest to (8,5,7)?

pastel wyvern
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i tried finding parametric form of the line

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and then dot product with the Q-P

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but im not getting a value for the parameter

west iron
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You aren't supposed to know what Q is

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So why would you use it

pastel wyvern
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oh crap i meant dot product with the point closest and p

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using those two vectors

west iron
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So you're taking a point R(t) on the line

pastel wyvern
west iron
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You should be taking the dot product of PQ with the direction vector of the line

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The direction vector shouldn't depend on lambda

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And the dot product of two vectors isn't a vector, it's a scalar

pastel wyvern
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ohhh crap

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so i need to add all the results

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bruh i got confused because of cross product

pastel wyvern
west iron
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Yeah add the products of corresponding elements

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<2, 3, 5>

pastel wyvern
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why?

west iron
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from the multiples of lambda in the parametric form

pastel wyvern
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hmm but why does that become the dir vector of the line? im sorry but idk how it translates

west iron
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Also works if you take any 2 points on the line and subtract their position vectors

pastel wyvern
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for eg

west iron
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Yeah

pastel wyvern
west iron
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Idk just intuition

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Every time you increase lambda by 1 you move (2,3,5) along the line

pastel wyvern
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oh opk

pastel wyvern
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alright so my method here would work but it would take longer, i should just let Q be (x,y,z) and do dot product of PQ and the dir vector of the line = 0 to find Q

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i think i got it

west iron
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It wouldn't really work

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You need to use the direction vector of the line, not the position vector of a point on it

pastel wyvern
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Oh yeah, okay

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Thanks a lot

west iron
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Np

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Hey, there - I have a problem with understanding basic solutions. Given a linear problem in standard-form

$A = \begin{bmatrix}
1 & 3 & 1 & 0 \
-1 & -1 & 0 & 1
\end{bmatrix}
$ and $c = \begin{bmatrix}
12 & 2
\end{bmatrix}^T
$

I have a question, which is asking for the number of max. possible basic solutions to this problem. My intuiton told me, that, since I need an invertable matrix for a basic solution, all possible pairs of the columns of a could lead to a basic solution.
Using the binomial coefficient, I came to 6 basic solutions to this matrix and (n choose m) solutions for a general m times n Matrix.
is this approach correcT?

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Edlingem

runic hamlet
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in general not every choice of m columns will give an invertible matrix

spiral talon
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Yes, but if I only got a general matrix without any information, I can't restrict the choices any further, can I?

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The question, in this case, asks for what the maximum number of basic solutions is

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pallid vortex
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Hi , help me with c pls, combinatorics

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next rover
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c is the opposite of no 1 and no 7

earnest pike
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add 6C2+6C2+5C1 to get 35

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chilly cobalt
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Consider parallelogram ABCD, where point E and F are the midpoints of BC, and CD respectively. Let P and Q be the intersection of BD with AE and AF. Show that P and Q split BD into 3 equal parts ( using vectors)

keen saddle
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Diagram pls

chilly cobalt
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rn my idea is to let BP : PQ : QD = m:n:p

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dont really know what ot do

mighty viper
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is this also for mental help 🙂

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!occupied

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(ik it aint)

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keen saddle
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Lmao

chilly cobalt
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anyone have ideaass

keen saddle
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Join AC

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Maybe that will help in m=p

chilly cobalt
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and?

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oh

tepid field
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It will not ig

keen saddle
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Try letting PE = QF = x

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Then use triangle law in ABP, ADQ, ABD

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whats triangle law?

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oh

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oh okay

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prime hornet
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I’m confused by your confusion kongouderp

last slate
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😭

prime hornet
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you only care about finding an N st a_n < e whenever n > N

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why do you think your choice of N does not work?

last slate
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it could be complex

prime hornet
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wait hold on

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okay yeah, it seems like we’re gonna need to break this into two cases, find an N for each one, and then take either the max or the min

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note that if eps > 1/3, then a_n < eps always

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yeah

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it’s the case when eps <= 1/3 that’s hard

last slate
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thanks

prime hornet
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sorry, I’m still working the estimate myself cat_happycry

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should work

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if $\varepsilon < \frac{1}{3}$, then

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why

grand pondBOT
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higher!

prime hornet
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ahh

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the point is that the N works if you write it out KEK

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let me try to figure out why my TeX doesn’t work

last slate
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okk

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\begin{align*}
n > N \implies \frac{1}{n^2 + 3} & < \frac{1}{N^2 + 3} \ & < \frac{1}{\left(\sqrt{\frac{1}{\varepsilon} - 3} \right)^2 + 3} \ & = \frac{1}{\frac{1}{\varepsilon} - 3 + 3} \ & = \varepsilon
\end{align*}

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there we go

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I hate everything

last slate
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hahahah it works but im hoping i dont have to check & show that it does

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lol

prime hornet
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maybe

grand pondBOT
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higher!

prime hornet
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finally KEK

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but yeah, you can confirm it works like this

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thank you

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prime hornet
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sorry that took me so long haha

last slate
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npnp f this school and this class

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have a great day! happy

last slate
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u too

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I need help understanding matrix reflections and how they can be expressed/found through equations. These are examples of the types of questions.

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yeah mb

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it wasn't registering

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so i thought it didn't work

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livid sonnet
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ok mb

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bacc (unhelpful)

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you can rewrite the left side applying matrix multiplication

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bacc (unhelpful)

dawn dagger
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Now compare

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a)

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to find a,b,c and d

livid sonnet
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can i write it like this?

dawn dagger
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a)

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are you doing b)?

livid sonnet
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yes

dawn dagger
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not quiet

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you need to switch some positions

livid sonnet
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do i just switch the 2 columns?

dawn dagger
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yes

livid sonnet
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ok so x coefficients come in first column

dawn dagger
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yes

livid sonnet
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and then what do i do

dawn dagger
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You found the transformation matrix

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aren't you done?

livid sonnet
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ok so i think the question here is incomplete. There's an answer which i need to get to and i need to understand the logic behind it

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i have the ansewer scheme

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can i share it

dawn dagger
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yes

livid sonnet
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so for b that were doing rn

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y=4x is the answer that i need to get to

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but how do i get there

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Im pretty sure it involves something about using tan theta = sin theta/ cos theta but

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there's this inequality that i need to consider that goes like: pi<2 theta<3pi/2 or smth

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and im not sure how to proceed with all this

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and for reflection of matrices the formula is given as:

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where a is just theta

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What does it mean for A and B to be independent given C?

grizzled elbow
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usually id expect to see this in parentheses but there are none in this case

merry pewter
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,, P(A\cap B | C) = P(A|C)\cdot P(B|C)

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Can someone explain how this works

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I dont get why its ak

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Can someone explain this

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Help

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Can someone explain how this is simplfied to
[ 1 ak
0 1]

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Can u explain

fallow scarab
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How you get the answer

fallow scarab
limpid slate
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Btw ive started matrices

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Are you talking about proof by industry or something else

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*induction

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So do i test k for positive integer values

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past wraith
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This is the exercise

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This is the explanation

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And I get all thr steps until the fourth step. Idrk what their doing

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How did they get to this equation they are solving?

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ik what parameter form is, but how would you turn equations for a plane into parameter form

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like which is the origin and which is the direction

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find the relationship, plug in, and solve for the parameter form

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youll know the direction from the coefficients

icy spoke
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ok ik the direction is <1,1,1>

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your direction vector might not be correct and you have a syntax issue

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why is the direction/normal vector not right?

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is it not just the coefficients of xyz \

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The direction vector is <1,0,-1>

Also Syntax error, you can write

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I don't get how you got it

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Can anyone figure out what's going on here? Why is average force force of gravity = ma?

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!original

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(This isn't mine, I was absent the day the class did it so I'm asking a friend what he did but he claims he doesn't know what he did even though he literally wrote this all out???)

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From what I'm understanding he's done mg=Fg, then ma=F and those combined are the average force? Is that like a thing??

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Isn't that just all the forces acting while jumping? Would that not be like net force instead of average force?

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I give up I'm just gonna copy whatever he did. The teacher didn't mark it wrong on his so maybe he was onto something

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But yes , gravitational is kind of the only force here

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drifting root
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im a bit lost on how to set up the integration to find the volume rotated on y axis

thin slate
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when its spun around the y-axis

drifting root
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yea

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im testing uh

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the integ of x from 0 th e then minus the chunk rn

thin slate
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this area

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me personally I would calculate

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*volume

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and subtract the triangle bit (which is a cone)

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this volume is a cylinder + the curve of 1/x from 1 to e revolved around y-axis

drifting root
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how would i calc that

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i trief thinking that way but couldnt set an eq for it

thin slate
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also instead of a cylinder

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and subtracting the volume of the cone

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you can consider the interval from 0 to 1 the volume of revolution of f (x) = x around the y-axis

drifting root
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what way is there to set up an eq for this using y values

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the part thats throwing me off is the xy=1

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xy = 1

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y = 1/x

drifting root
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like

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an integral eq

thin slate
drifting root
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the 1 to e doesnt make sense to me

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how can i make an eq with it

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if i make an eq, its easy for rotate on x

thin slate
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what's the formula for the volume of revolution around the y-axis?

drifting root
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how to do for rotate ony

thin slate
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for some function f(y)?

thin slate
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and set the bounds accordingly

drifting root
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why tho?

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im rotating on y axis

thin slate
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oh my bad

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read again

drifting root
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ik formula for volume

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how can i set up my integral tho

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i cant find a nice way to cut the shape so i can calculate

thin slate
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find the volume of the black shape + red cone - red cone

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the volume of the shape is equal to the red area from -1 to -1/e revolved around the "new x-axis"

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  • a cylinder whose height and radius are known
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I'm trying to prove every real number , lies between two consecutive integers

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So essentially, let $a \in \Z; x \in \R$. so $a \leq x < a+1$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

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twilit field
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That would work for positive reals

civic scroll
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If x is negative, you can consider -x

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mhm

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I was actually thinking of using the completness axiom

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(how are you trying to prove it? What's available to you - e.g. the whole "[least] upper bound" thing?)

twilit field
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I mean now that I have proven it , yeah

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and that $\Z$ doesn't have a lower bound in $\R$ , along with the completness axiom

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

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That would also work

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I was thinking of first considering $A =(- \infty,x) , B=(x ,\infty)$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

twilit field
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Then firstly by the completness axiom , such an x exists

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And I then find $\Z \cap (A \cup B)= \Z$

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twilit field
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Oh right

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

twilit field
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now let's consider two arbitrary integers a and b, a \neq b b>a

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There is the case x \in Z

twilit field
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I think I'll first deal with the case wherein $x \notin \Z$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

civic scroll
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The other case is trivial anyways

twilit field
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yeah

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what am I doing

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sorry

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wait, by the ordering of the real numbers , and the fact that the integers aren't bounded from below, I can say there exists an integer $s$, such that $a<x$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

twilit field
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After showing that $\Z$ isn't bounded from above, we can show that $\exists b$ st $a<x<b$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

twilit field
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So firstly this shows that every real lies between two integers

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Now we know that $b>a$. We also know that $\frac{b+1}{b} \geq 1$ so $a<x< b+1$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

twilit field
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nvm

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Again, we know $a<x<b$ ; $b>a$

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Mr bean is not $\R \setminus \Q$

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OOh

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shit

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so im finding the volume of the shaded area rotated around the y axis

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im pre sure this gives the right answer

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hi how do i do this?

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drifting root
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ik $f’(x) = 1 + ln(x)$

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drifting root
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but idk what to do after

sinful trout
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therefore what do you think the integral of ln x is?

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note that x' = 1

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and -x' = -1

drifting root
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sorry im not familiar with the x’ terminology

sinful trout
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that just means the derivative of x

drifting root
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ah

sinful trout
drifting root
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gimme a sec

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it makes sense to me if i do this

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but cause its a definite integral

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idk how to deal with f(x)

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F(x) = int(ln(x)) + int(1)

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novel lion
last slate
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Bro gonna get + c1 & c2 no?

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Why u isolating ln(x) doh

drifting root
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hence why i left out the limits

last slate
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Just + c1 +c2

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$\int_{1}^{e} ln(x)dx = [f(x)]{1}^{e} - \int{1}^{e} 1dx$

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Astar777

drifting root
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oh

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actual?

last slate
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Why did u input these limits

drifting root
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i just sub in the limits to f(x)?

novel lion
last slate
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I see

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This is ez if i can remember ibp

novel lion
last slate
novel lion
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$\int_{0}^{1} 1dx = [x]_{0}^{1}$

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Astar777

novel lion
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same thing here

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Yurp

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oh

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need help

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what's the conic, the focal point and the summit

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Hi, what is the minimum number of elements in a List such that range and interquartile range will be distinct?

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4?

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Consider [1,2,3] then the IQR is 3-1 = range = 2

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mmm

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hi

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kinda need help i dont rlly understand his last step ik the derivitive of sec^2 is tan but how the did the intergral and du just dissapear?

shrewd tundra
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cuase he didn the integral

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so derivative of tan x = sec ^2 x

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integral is the opposite

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of differentiation

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so hes going back from

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sec^2 x and asking, what function if differentiated gives this

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this is nkown as the primitive function

dry ore
shrewd tundra
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yes its right

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the du dissaperas cause he did the integral

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like he actually integrates it

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think of like activating a machine and getting the outpute

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before he was tinkerring settings inthe machine (subbing stuff in the integral) then he pessed the button and got the result (tan u) and doesnt care about the machine anymore

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no the du dissapeared

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cause he integraetd it

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how do i explain this

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like he did the integration

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like actually did it

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he got the answer

worn blade
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if you integrate integral(xdx) it's just x^2 /2 not that and dx

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ohhh ok tks!

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am i doing something wrong?

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upper void
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,rotate

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upper void
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are you stuck on what to do next?

last slate
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yes

upper void
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i would do a substution and replace x with u^2

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and also make it so the y is on its own

last slate
upper void
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so let x equal some number u^2

last slate
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ohhh

upper void
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then replace all the x's in your equation with u^2

last slate
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like this?

upper void
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,rotate

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upper void
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almost but it wouldnt be -10u^2

last slate
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what is it]

upper void
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if we had root(x)

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and we replace that with u^2

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it becomes root(u^2)

last slate
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so 10 root (u^2)

upper void
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what is root(u^2)

last slate
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x

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root x

upper void
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yeah but in terms of u

last slate
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that would be u

upper void
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yes

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so we would have -10u

last slate
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yeah

upper void
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so all together we have u^2 - 10u + 25 +20root(2) = y

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does that remind you of anything

last slate
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quadratic formula

upper void
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yes

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so we can use quadratic formula to solve for u

last slate
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okay

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wait so is c 25 plus 20 root 2

upper void
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yes

last slate
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it says maths error

wintry shoal
upper void
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yeah sorry i just realised my method wouldnt work

wintry shoal
upper void
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but im not sure how you would solve this as we just have an equation of a line so i dont know how were meant to get to positive interger values for x and y

upper void
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i was trying to solve for when y=0 but thats not what we want

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it feels like were missing some information for this to be solved

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but i might just not know how to do it tnh

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tbh*

last slate
wintry shoal
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Wait

last slate
upper void
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ive done up to alevel

last slate
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damn

wintry shoal
upper void
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how

last slate
wintry shoal
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(5-sqrt(x))^2
5•5=25
5•-sqrt(x)=-5sqrt(x)
5•-sqrt(x)=-5sqrt(x)
sqrt(x)^2=x
25-5sqrt(x)-5sqrt(x)+x

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=25-10sqrt(x)+x

upper void
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yeah

wintry shoal
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Oh I didn’t realize you replaced x for u^2

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I thought you did x for u

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My bad then

last slate
upper void
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yeah its not the way you would solve this i dont think

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ok i got the answer but im not to sure on the method

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i dont know how valid a method this would be so you might want to check with your teacher but ill explain anyway

last slate
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okay

upper void
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so we know we want two interger/whole number so we need to cancel out the 20root(2) on the right hand side

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so we need the value of (5-root(x))^2 to end up with 20root(2) as well leading them to both cancel out

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so that means after expanding when we get -10root(x) we need this to equal -20root(2)

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so root(x) must equal 2root(2)

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see if you can solve it from there

wintry shoal
upper void
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no cause the 25 is a whole number and were only concered with the square roots

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the 25 will just help give us the value of y at the end

wintry shoal
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Hm

last slate
upper void
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did you get a value of x though?

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by solving root(x) = 2root(2)

last slate
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25 + (2root20)^2 = y?

wintry shoal
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Nope

upper void
last slate
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if root x is 2 root 2

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then x is (2 root 2)^2

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am i wrong

wintry shoal
last slate
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yes

upper void
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yes that is right

wintry shoal
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Oh wait yeah you’re right

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Sorry, misread what you said

upper void
last slate
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y is 33

upper void
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yes

last slate
upper void
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so the two values are 8 and 33

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I'm just going to claim this and I'll write down the questions since it's long

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  1. 33^2x - 3^2x times 3^-1 = 18
  2. 3^x+2 + 3^x = 1-/81
  3. (2^x2/2^5x) = 1/16
  4. 4^2x - 20.4^x + 64 = 0
  5. 0.001^x = (1/10)^x-3
  6. (2/5)^x-2 = (5/2)^3x+2
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I don't understand how to answer these questions

last slate
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18

keen sphinx
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ok so its 33^2x-3^2x x 3^-1 =18

keen sphinx
last slate
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WAIT IM SO SORRY

keen sphinx
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whats wrong

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  1. 3^2x - 3^2x times 3^-1 = 18
  2. 3^x+2 + 3^x = 10/81
  3. (2^x2/2^5x) = 1/16
  4. 4^2x - 20.4^x + 64 = 0
  5. 0.001^x = (1/10)^x-3
  6. (2/5)^x-2 = (5/2)^3x+2
keen sphinx
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that makes it easier

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ok so lets start with the first one

last slate
keen sphinx
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you're familiar with the laws of indices correct?

last slate
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kinda yes

keen sphinx
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so when I say a^-1

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what do i mean

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if i expand the indices what will it look like

last slate
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okay idk

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I only know laws of exponent

keen sphinx
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heres an idea

keen sphinx
last slate
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Welp this is going to be a challenge

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We weren't taught about laws of indices

keen sphinx
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laws of indices and laws of exponents are the same thing buddy

keen saddle
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$3^{2x} - 3^{2x} /mul 3^-1 = 18$

keen sphinx
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dont stress on it

grand pondBOT
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Wumpus Man

gaunt otter
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use a latex code generator if not familiar with texit

keen sphinx
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wait then why r they giving you that exercise

keen saddle
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$(3^{2x} - 3^{2x} )\times 3^{-1} = 18$

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is this your eq?

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this seems wrong

last slate
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Wumpus Man

keen sphinx
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so to put it simply

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$3^{-1} = 1/3$

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lol i tried

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anyways

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it's just 1/3

keen saddle
keen sphinx
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huh yea that doesn't look right

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mompwomp

last slate
keen sphinx
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yea

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so that means you have

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$(3^{2x}-3^{2x})/3=18$

last slate
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Okay

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mompwomp

keen sphinx
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cross multiply

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$(3^{2x}-3^{2x})=18\times 3$

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mompwomp

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$(3^{2x}-3^{2x})=54$

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mompwomp

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bro LHS in zero

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RHS is non zero

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the ques is wrong

keen sphinx
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yea

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ik

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i realised that

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faiyrose

last slate
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yes

keen sphinx
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yea

last slate
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im so sleepy I can't concentrate properly

keen sphinx
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no

last slate
last slate
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but my quiz is tomorrow

last slate
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wait my head hurts..

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nvm

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I'm not able to help you rn cause I have class pandaohno

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guys, some modulus functions like |2x-5| > |3-x| can be solved by just squaring both sides right, but i remember there are some modulus functions that can't be squared. what is it and why?

dawn dagger
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since modulos is always non-negative, squaring should be fine

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at least in the realm of real numbers

fair kayak
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what if one side has modulus and the other side don't

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like |2x-1| = 3

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i can't square it right?

dawn dagger
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that works as well since 3 is positive

fair kayak
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oohhh

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how about |x-4| = 2x+1

dawn dagger
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if you have a negative side then it's critical

dawn dagger
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then it is

fair kayak
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i can't square it?

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bcs x is unknown and it can be both positive or negative?

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OHH i seee

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okayyy thank you so much bacc and alberto

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You would basically introduce a new additional solution, since you squared both sides, but that solution wouldn't hold for the equation prior to squaring

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You can test it and see for yourself

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just saying, if you solve for when both sides are equal

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then use a sign diagram

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you can't go wrong

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What’s the difference between constant function, where different x values give one y and y^2 = x not being a function because one y can’t be determined by two x values? It’s kind of stupid question xd

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,w plot y=5

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,w plot y^2 = 5

dim dagger
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But why isn’t y^2 = x a function

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Its so Basic I cant wrap my head around it somehow

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Like I get it but don’t

heavy wagon
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,w plot y^2 = x

dim dagger
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It fails the vertical line test right

heavy wagon
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correct

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A function is specfically defined as one-to-one

dim dagger
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How Can √1 be y = 1 and -1 at the same time

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Sorry for Basic questions catthumbsup

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Thanks for answering I think I finally get it

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I need help with convergence of fourier series. The situation I am in is that I have an assignment. And my teacher keeps failing me on it, due to him not recoginizing my argument or the theorom I'm using apparently doesn't exist in our course literature

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Since he doesn't consider that showing that the function f, satisfies the dirichlet conditions to be valid argument, to why the function converges to all values of f where it is continous

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you want us to change your teacher's mind?

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No, I want help with a theorom I found in my book

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and see how I can apply it to my function

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since for me it currently isn't making sense

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show the theorem then

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It's in Swedish, but I'll try to translate it

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The theorom says: Assume that f is C^2 and T-periodic. Then the fourier series converges uniformally towards all f(t)

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C^m means that the function f and all of its derivatives up to order m exist and are continuous.

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This is my function

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And my issue is that it's a piece wise function, which is not continous

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and if I take the derivative, I'll have a f that is not continous

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I don't really know if I can maybe work with anything here? Maybe prove that it's contious piecewise, and then explore the points of discontinuity with the left and right-hand limit at that point over 2

fallow scarab
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yea the last idea about piecewise is right

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Okay so show that this theorom is true for each piece of the function

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Now what conclusions can I draw using the method of left and right hand limit over 2?

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at these points?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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No, my question is what conclusion I can draw by doing that?

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what conclusion are you asked to draw

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I need to show that the fourier series converges to the function

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taking the first derivative, I'll have 4 points which are discontinous, on my function f

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Can I do something with the theorom? show that it is continous piece wise? but then what?

fallow scarab
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show the original question

wintry eagle
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You want the fourier series as well?

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you should provid all information you know that i don't

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that's relevant to your questions and original problem

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I mean, I don't really know what is relevant to my question since I am lost

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But sure

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That's f(t) and that's the fourier series

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I don't think we need the fourier series for my question

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just looks like t=0 unless there's more in swedish you're not translating

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Point t=0 is discontinous yes

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that's the only point in the function

fallow scarab
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so plug t=0 into the series

wintry eagle
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which is discontinous

fallow scarab
wintry eagle
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how come?

fallow scarab
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Yes? I need to show that it converges for all values, my question is how verifying it at t=0 will do that

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sure, we need to explore the point of discontinuity, but what about everywhere else where f is continous?

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find all positive integers triples (a,b,c) such that abc=2^4×5^2

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idk why but im blanking on this

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wtf why is the next question an imo 2023 one 😭

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find the smallest n such that
$\tau(n^2)=3\tau(n)$

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Skill_Issue

viral dagger
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so like if tau(n)=(a1+1)(a2+1)....(ak+1) then tau(n^2)=(2a1+1)(2a2+1)...(2ak+1)

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thats where im stuck

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tau(n) is ammount of factors of n btw

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not sure if thats stsndard or not

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runic hamlet
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given that you want to find the smallest solution, it would be a good idea to limit the amount of prime factors to a small number and then see what you can do with that

astral bough
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Brute-forced a solution, it's 144. Not sure how to properly get to it tho.

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I'd wager a guess that tau is a function of the powers of the prime breakdown. All numbers with this ratio up to 1000 have 15 divisors and factor as x^2*y^4.

astral bough
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Checked up to 100k, something like 40 numbers satisfy this, all with 15 divisors.

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So the problem is showing that only one multiset of numbers, namely $S = {2, 4}$ satisfies $\prod_{i}^{a_i \in S}{\frac{2a_i + 1}{a_i + 1}} = 3$

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LooseEthics

runic hamlet
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no no

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the problem only asks for the smallest solution

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that is way easier than all solutions

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if k=1 then you can quickly check that there is no solution

astral bough
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If you don't care about how you arrive at the solution, then that's 144.

runic hamlet
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if k=2 then you quickly find (4,2) as a solution which leads to 144

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if k>=4, then your number is at least 2*3*5*7=210, which is too big

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so then you only have to think about k=3

astral bough
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What about (3, 3)?

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Nevermind, the smallest there is 216

runic hamlet
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anyway, @viral dagger isn't here anymore anyway

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fuck sorry forgot i made this