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well i meant tetration
i think that's the thing
yeah
thank you very much,, wow
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could someone let me know
where im going wrong here in the end
ljke the middle left part
i cant seem to finish up the proof or my algebra is terrible
@cerulean arch
yes
find the min value where x>f(x)-9, then set a minimum for N so x is always greater
then N<€
does this make sense?
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@cerulean arch looking back, the answer I gave you was wrong
you need to express n in terms of epsilon
it should be correct now, I hadnt done epsilon delta in a while, I hope that helps
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Can i make this into simpler fraction by
doing the inner inner outter outter thing
with the fact that there is subtraction?
so 2p / 1-24 ?
make $1-\f{25}p$ one fraction first
hayley is not layla
yee
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A = { {n \leq275 v m=2n| n, m \in ℕ}``` what does v mean in the middle?
do you have an image?
The cardinality of A = infinity
it could mean union?? Im not particularly sure though in all honesty
there is no such thing as V?
(they likely mean "or" here, if the cardinality of A is infinite)
Strange layout though, usually it'd be stated the other way round, "n and m are natural numbers such that n is at most 275, or m is 2n"
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Not sure which one to use, can’t seem to get either one as only a function of x or only a function of y
you can assume the integrating factor is x^n * y^m and multiply your equation by that
then suppose it is exact and set up a system of equations
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Tried it out but there’s no n and m that make my equation exact
Can’t find out where I messed up
you are tricking yourself
i see at the start of the page you have 8y * x^n * y^m, which you differentiate to obtain 8m * x^n * y^m
this is incorrect and at the start instead of 8y * x^n * y^m it would be more beneficial to write 8 * x^n * y^(m + 1)
Tried it again but i still can’t find an m and n that work
Is there a proper way of doing it rather than just guessing it?
there is no guesing here, the problem directly tells you x^n * y^m is an integrating factor
from here, you can algebraically determine the value of n and m
I cant really cancel anything out if I equate the 2 equations tho
the idea i you have to compare coefficients
thats what I tried doing here
but it ends up working for 2 of the terms and not working for the other 2 terms
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I found (18!)^2 in base 10 has 32 digits so I think the problem is to find the largest integer n such that 15^n has less than 32 digits and then add 1 to n.
I know you could do this with logarithms, however I am trying to do it without a calculator.
It might help help you to notice that 15^4 is approx 50000
Ok so 15^8 is approximately 25 * 10^8, 15^16 is approximately 625 * 10^16, 15^24 is approximately 15625 * 10^24. Then 15^25 is about 22000 * 10^25 = 22*10^28, 15^26 is about 33 x 10^29 and 15^26 is about 50 x 10^30, but (18!)^2 is about 40 x 10^30.
So n = 26
and the base 15 number will have 27 digits?
yes
Ok
for this type of problem should I also estimate the margin of error
to see how far my calculations are off by
because I estimated 15^26 to be about 50*10^30 and (18!)^2 to be about 40 x 10^30. Those seem very close and I could easily have rounded too high or too low
Yes, estimating error margins is the main underlying theme for these kinds of problems
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what do i do with the I

I is the identity matrix
(are you meant to find A?)
ah yes sorry i frogot to mention
i did the inverse but idk what to do with I
i thought of just making it -I in the right
The inverse of both sides? If so, then sure 
,, I = \begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 \ 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}
cloud
yes
but the thing
result is this
and idk how even if i -1 the left up and right down
idk hwo to reach this
what did you get for the inverse?
the determinant of the original matrix was -13
double check the bottom right entry as well
yea that too
^
oh sorry
here its corrected
ok thing is
they did the /2 AND THEN
minus the identity matrix
wait
no
Well, if you subtracted the identity matrix first then divided by 2, you will get their answer too
if they /2 and then minus identity
its a different asnwer
Well, if you divide everything by 2, then the identity matrix is scaled by 1/2
Do you have what they did?
when was the last time you opened a help channel? i haven’t seen a syrex channel in ages
school started ig
oh yeah forgot oops\
okay then makes snese
ty!
yesterdy
for a week now i believe
but yes i was gone for like
3 months
O_O
that explains it
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What do you mean "it isn't p(A)"?
basically im not sure what to do here
do i assume x is A?
ah then -2
is it -2 to every entry?
Yep, replace all x's with A's (and any constants with the constant multiple of the identity matrix)
-2I instead 
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$\lim_{x\ \to\infty}\frac{2x-1}{x-2}$
Veni, vidi, perii
Veni, vidi, perii
or $\frac{5}{|x-2|} < \varepsilon$
Veni, vidi, perii
uh, so
$|x-2|> \frac{5}{\varepsilon}$
now what?
so $||x|-2|>\frac{\varepsilon}{5}$
Veni, vidi, perii
so $|x|> \frac{\varepsilon}{5}+2$
Veni, vidi, perii
is this fine
watch your step
wydm
Veni, vidi, perii
so |x|> 5/ eps +2
i dont think this is the most useful route
https://youtu.be/AfrnYS5S8VE?si=e1qhn1WtMR5YUImL try looking at q5
This is the ultimate calculus study guide for your university-level calculus and real analysis class. We will do 24 rigorous proofs for limits, including the epsilon-delta proofs, epsilon-N proofs (when x approaches infinity), M-delta (when the limit is infinity), and M-N proofs (when x goes to infinity and f(x) also goes to infinity) for limits...
(Remember the whole “you can choose N” thing here - in this case, such that you can drop the absolute value bars)
so N= 5+2eps/5
What am I doing wrong
I'm getting N = (5+2eps)/5
Remember you initially had absolute value bars here
To have dropped them, you wanna make an assumption on N
Yep 
Max of 2 and this 
Then reverse your steps 
btw its 3/(x-2) not 5/(x-2)
oops
yeah
thanks
Yup
done
thanks
would doing an epsilon-N proof for this teach me anything

pain, sure
you would definitely need to be able to bound stuff to simplify it
doing it without that would suck
Hmm, I'll think about that
Is that doable in epsilon -N limiits
Can I have a hint
I thought of saying x-1<a and using that to bound everything
ok however you got 1/x
I factored out x^2 from the numerator and denominator
uhm ok
how else am I supposed to bound this?
show your work
$\frac{x^2(1+1/x^2)}{x^2(2-3/x-2/x^2)}$
Veni, vidi, perii
what happened to the 1/2
oops
yeah
ok, using the 1/2
we get
Ok , I messed up
let me try again
so that simplifies to
$\frac{4+3x}{2(2x^2-3x-2)}$
Veni, vidi, perii
ok, no idea
so now you want to bound this by something else which is simpler
and that something else you can then bound by epsilon
so how can you make 4+3x bigger while making it simpler
how can you make 4x^2-6x-4 smaller while making it simpler
and still in a way that the quotient goes to 0
I could probably re-write this as $\frac{1}{2(x-2)}+ \frac{x-2}{2(2x+1)(x-2)} + \frac{5}{2(2x+1)(x+2)}$
Veni, vidi, perii
I could compare the last one to 1/x^2
overthinking
Make the denominator x^2
yes
and the numerator 4x?
so (4+3x)/(4x^2-3x-2)<4/x
yes
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what
$\frac{4+3x}{2(2x^2-3x-2)}< \varepsilon$
Veni, vidi, perii
Veni, vidi, perii
well and N big enough for this
but yes
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i dont understand why it's 12 x 3 x 3 not 12 x 3 x 12
Because you work in the case in which the shirt is pink
And there are 3 possible cases then
For the shirt
yeah so the ties cant be red and the waistcoat cant also be red right
Exactly
so what im thinking is so when shirt is pink thats 12 and no red waistcoat so 3 and no red ties so 15-3 = 12 --> 12 x 3 x 12?
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Find all the complex solutions to $$iz^3=8$$ in both $re^{i\theta}$ and $a+ib$.
Good
what have you tired?
I found that $z^3=-8i$, so that $z^3=8e^{i3\pi/4}$ such that $z=2e^{i\pi/4}$, and the one solution is $w_0=(2e^{i\pi/4})^{\frac13}$
Good
But this didn't give me the right solution.
Is this the right path?
till z^3 its all aright
but $z=\sqrt[3]{8}e^{i\left(\frac{\frac{3\pi}{2}+2\pi k}{3} \right)},k={\ 0,1,2 \ }$
convergence
I saw my mistake, thought 3pi/4 as 3pi/2.
But isn't $z=2e^{i\pi/2}$ and since it's a 3-root, so $w_k=w_0\cdot( e^{i2\pi/3})^k$, $k\in{0,1,2}$
Good
what is $w_0$ here?
convergence
$w_0=\sqrt[3]{z}=\sqrt[3]{2e^{i\pi/2}}$
Good
and no z is not exactly $2e^{i\pi/2}$ its more of a principal branch but ok..
convergence
if you let $w_0=2e^{i\frac{\pi}{2}}$ then you can write $w_k=w_0 e^{\frac{2k\pi}{3}} ,k={0,1,2}$
convergence
But last time I did $z^3=\sqrt{2}(1+i)$ I needed to do this way.
Good
hm?
Or else the solutions didn’t match.
no like how did you get this?
np
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how?
what do you mean "how"
idk how to factorise
the method?
from first line to second
u put the lamda in factor?
what?
This algebra video tutorial provides a basic introduction into factoring trinomials and factoring polynomials. It contains plenty of examples on how to factor quadratic equations.
How To Factor Trinomials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4jANGlJRSY
The Greatest Common Factor:
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watch that
ty
np
ren
can u plz explain me more?
ik what the video is about but it didnt help
ik how to go from second line to first
and from first line to second idk how
okay so basically
factoring is a way to turn a complicated polynomial into well its factors
for quadratics such as this in the form x^2 + bx + c, you try to find two numbers such that r+s = b and rs = c
then the quadratic is simply (x-r)(x-s), which can also be written as (r-x)(s-x)
in situations like these
it's very obvious what r and s are
in others you might use the quadratic formula
since r and s are just the roots of the quadratic equation
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how do i solve this?
can someone to do it visiually for me
i got 8^13/12
but i feel like it can be shortened more but idk how
well, thats it
the solution shows this:
$\sqrt{8} = 2\sqrt{2}$
Astar777
cube root of 8 = 2
so thats 4sqrt(2) now
i dont get how you would take out 2 from the last one to make 4*2 = 8
i found this but i dont get how it goes from 8^1+12 to that
faiyrose
8 = 2^3
Don't go that way, it will be difficult for them to understand
This is better to understand
Gotcha
Just thought we gotta prove LHS =RHS
Breaking 8^13/12 as 8 * 8^1/12
Nah it's fine,that way is even more tricky to understand
They will end up as 2^13/4
Then its
2³ * 2¼
For us it's easy to interpret
Its 2^3 * 2 ^(1/4)
agreed
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An archer shoots an arrow at a 72.0 m distant target; the bull's-eye of the target is at same height as the release height of the arrow.
(a)
At what angle in degrees must the arrow be released to hit the bull's-eye if its initial speed is 31.0 m/s?
answer using vector componenets
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do we assume that the effects of air resistance are ignored
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can someone help me solve the last one
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no
green one?
Proof that for all natural numbers n,
4•6^n+5n-4 is divisible by 25?
yes
what have you tried?
hmmm
then we have to demonstrate that is divisible for all numbers
have you heard of Mathematic Induction?
yes
i think MI is very useful for such questions
we studied it last week but i kinda got questions since on different exercise we use different techniques
oh i see, so you need to use different techniques for this question, am i right?
possibly
i just need to get to the point to see if its divisible for all numbers or not
when we swap the number with n
then you might try modula arithmetic and binomial expansion to show
seems like doable
oh
i can try
4(5+1)^n +5n -4
=4(5^n + (nC1)5^(n-1) + (nC2)5^(n-2) + ... + (n(n-1)/2)5² + 5n +1)) + 5n -4
=4(5^n + (nC1)5^(n-1) + (nC2)5^(n-2) + ... + (n(n-1)/2)5²) +20n +4 + 5n -4
=4(5^n + (nC1)5^(n-1) + (nC2)5^(n-2) + ... + (n(n-1)/2)5²)
which is divisible by 25
what does the C stands for?
ooo, sorry was in another channel,
C is combination
it's in binomial theorem
https://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/binomial-theorem.html
oh i see, it's not actually that hard 😛
yeah but im not sure if the teacher will accept this method
hmmm
any other methods that your teacher is suggesting?
wait imma show how we did other examples
if u don’t understand something lmk
wait hold on i think i mixed with other equations
so many 😆
yeah, this method is taking 2 pages of writing in order to solve
these looks like Mathematical Induction
yes they are
yea, but i thought you wanna use other methods :3
i want this method in order to get accepted from my teacher
ahhh i get it now
so basically you do the initial case
then you assume case k=n is true,
then
(4•6^(k+1)+5n-4) : 25
( 6(4•6^(k)+5n-4) +6(-5n+4) +5n-4) : 25
can you continue from here?
this part is the only part i could actually get done:(, but i cant go further
oh ok
lemme try
6(P(k))-30n+24+5n-4
6(P(k))-25n+20
6(P(k))-25(n+1)+5+20
6(P(k))-25(n+1)+25 : 25
thanks for helping
see if those make sense?
imma ask my teacher to be sure
sure!
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I don't know where to start here
,tex .exp rules
This is an example I'm given for how to solve the above equation:

i mean
the fourth derivative will just be differentiating the third derivative
and you can use the power rule there
since that is merely x^0.75
yes I understand that it's x^(3/4) so far
(or are you saying that's the final answer?)
I was thinking I had more steps
I don't know how to
,tex .diff rules

except n = 0
for obvious reasons
Oops yes thank you
(3/4)x
ren
gotcha
and your answer is correct
gj
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wait can u explain how this proves that every number is divisible
sure, you can open a new channel, we can talk there
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Could someone confirm if my work here is correct...?
for c) "addition" is defined as matrix multiplication. However, matrix multiplication is not commutative, and addition in a vector space must be commutative. Therefore, matrix multiplication cannot serve as the addition operation for a vector space. Thus, it is not a vector space?
i agree with this
true, but you didnt check whether it satisifes the remaining 6 axioms of a vector space
remember, theres 10
c) is correct right?
yeah, agreed, nice
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Factorize $$z^3+8=0$$
Good
I got the roots $(-1+i\sqrt3)$, $-1$ and $\left(-\frac12 + i \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \right)$.
Good
Would it just be $z^3+8=[z-(-1+i\sqrt3)][z-(-1)][z-\left(-\frac12 + i \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2} \right)]$
Good
i think you meant -2
but yeah that's one valid factorisation
(if we're working in $\mathbb{C}$)
LY
for reals tho i would prefer keeping it as (z+2)(z^2-2z+4)
I mean, I made -8 to $8e^{i\pi}$, and $w_1$ gives me -1
Good
If it were -2, why are there no denominator of 2?
why?
i mean -1 is definitely not a root
cus the cube root of -8 is -2 and not -1
nw
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Can someone help we with this problem?
just split it up into 2 integrals
bc its a piecewise
because its f(x)=x when x<1 you can integrate x from -2 to 1 and since f(x)=1/x when x>1 you can integrate 1/x from 1 to 7
and add them
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why is (lg x)^2 / lg x = lg x but ln x^2 / ln x is not ln x but 2?
because ln x^2 = ln(x^2)
i dont understand
wait i kind of understand
but i still dont get why i get different answers
would it be the same if the second task was (ln x)^2 / ln x?
would it then become ln x
it would be ln x in that case
but since its not the whole thing but only x thats ^2 it becomes 2?
yes, because ln(x^2) = 2 ln(x)
so (lg x)^2 isnt 2 lg x ?
it is not
for (lg x)^2 the square is applied to the output of the function, for lg x^2 = lg(x^2) the square is applied to the input of the function
yes, parentheses are important
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smth went wrong but idk what and the answers supposed to be whole numbers help
? idk
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does this work??
i did impartial fraction decomposition and then integrated it but I think i did something wrong
Hmmm looks right to me too
your antiderivatives are incorrect
also is your integrand supposed to be in terms of t while integrating in the domain of x❓ @umbral bramble
I dont know what im doing im just doing it
im trying a different way and doing u sub first
wait
if t is a constant then you dont need to do all of that
can you check what the original question is
what do i do
is it exactly like that from the book or hw
hw
yeah does it say if t is a constant
calc 2
oh ok then
either there is a mistake or the answer is to treat that whole thing as a constant factor
you can try it assuming its a mistake tho
i think its a typo
yeah dont forget your 'du' but from there you can use other techniques to solve it
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Cool
can i U sub thiS?
Yep
You could have just substituted 1 + sqrt(x+1) to avoid doing the u-sub twice
Thank you!!
there seems to be a footnote there, they might explain it more there
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help part a pls i have no idea where to start
oh my gosh what is this
ive def done this before but completely forgot how to do it
probably involves some trig stuff that I've forgotten
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@Sho the answer of part "a"
Here is a brief :
We don't have a rule in math to get the area of a triangle with respect to a raduis
So we will work normally and get the area
The common law
Area of any triangle
= 1/2 * s1 * s2 * sin(angle bet. Them)
I have assumed that the length of XP and PY = L
Thus the area
= 1/2 L^2 * sin angle
There is a basic rule in geometry says that if two radii are opened with an angle on a certain curve (which us XY curve in this case) and two cords are opened on the exact same curve then
The measure of the angle bet. The two cords = 1/2 the angle bet. The two radii
Then angle (XPY) = 1/2 (XOY) = theta
Now we have the area
= 1/2 L^2 * sin (theta)
We need a relation between L and raduis
Take a look at the triangle POY, it's an obtuse triangle we can get a relation between them using the cosine rule
Thus
L^2 = r^2 + r^2 - 2r^2 * cos (180 - theta)
= L^2 = 2r^2 + 2r^2 * cos (theta)
(don't forget that cos(180 - theta ) = - cos(theta) )
Now we have to do substitution and every thing is done
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will the layout be 1/4 x pi x 24 squared?
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you are not getting away with not telling us the answer
the answer is 576 - 144pi
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square both sides
or, just notice that the sqrt of (x+1)^2 is |x+1|
sure can do that
query 1: How is it possible this was square rooted? I am unaware of any method 2x could be reduced by and they managed to fully eliminate it somehow.```
some people are just uncomfortable with absolute values
Define this
?
just ignore my comment if you're not familiar with them
it's just a different way to approach the problem, you'll get the same answer either way
please respond to the prompt```
where
2nd line implies a polynomial of degree 3
Read this, ignore my prior attempt to expand it.
sadly it appears none of you were willing to answer the original question
I may have to search for help elsewhere or recreate the channel due to this.
Lack of formatting + too many answers + sidetracked.
This simply will not do.
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I'm presently stuck on a Calculus I problem that involves finding the derrivative of a function:
I'll show my work soon
My work:
x^2 sqrt(25 - x^2) = x^2 (25 - x^2)^(1/2) <- convert square root into exponent
(x^2/2) [(25 - x^2)^(-1/2)] X (-1/x) <- solve derivatice using identity d/dx (u^n) = n X u^(n-1) X (u prime)
-(x^3/2) [(25-x^2)^(-1/2)] <-final answer
you have to use the product rule
on (x^2 \times \sqrt{25 - x^2})
Invariance
you can't use the power rule on just one part of a product like that
I see
e.g.
[\frac{d}{dx} x^6 = \frac{d}{dx} (x^3 \times x^3) \neq x^3 \times 3 x^2 = 3 x^5]
Invariance
I'll apply this to my work now, and see if that's what the question is looking for. Though, I am confident now that it is.
Took me a few tries but I got it, thanks! 😄
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Simplify $( x\sqrt{x} )$ for $( x \in \mathbb{C} )$
Why is this wrong? $x\sqrt{x} = \sqrt{x^3}$
Alex
Simplify $x\sqrt{x}$ for $x \in \mathbb{C}$ , without removing the square root symbol.
SWR
yes that lol thx
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Consider expressing x in complex polar form and what happens when x³ would exceed 2pi radians
i dont know what is polar form
not familiar with $re^{i\theta}$?
SWR
no, i saw that somewhere but not in my book
hmm. Not really sure how to help otherwise. 
Rewrite x as (sqrt(x))^2
this is not wrong is it?
This is the way to simplify correctly
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how did you mess this up, you did the previous one well :p
$\lim_{x \to 5} f(x) = \infty , \implies , x=5$ is a vertical asymptote
Emily
how is 5 vertical?
you switched 5 and +oo
you wrote as x approaches 5, f(x) +oo
what math level are u in
im not math, im control systems
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Just a quick question, so if i got a table, and it is close to linear, mean that there a few point that is slightly away from the line, and i want to get the slope, but i get a different slope every time when i plug the different point, i had a quiz on that, so is that mean i am wrong or what, cuz my friend got like 50, and i got like 51 point something
Can there be like a range for the slope or it just that I am wrong
Cuz i think i use different number plug in the equation y^2-y^1/x^2-x^1, and i got different result everytime
But it just around that number everytime the result is got
I am a little bit confused
when you have an almost linear table, then yes, choosing two points and getting the slope, the slope will depend on your choice
there are formulas that take into account every point you have, giving you the most accurate slope
In statistics, simple linear regression (SLR) is a linear regression model with a single explanatory variable. That is, it concerns two-dimensional sample points with one independent variable and one dependent variable (conventionally, the x and y coordinates in a Cartesian coordinate system) and finds a linear function (a non-vertical straight ...
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Question:
Let f (x) = Cax + k
Suppose that the function f (x):
has a horizontal asymptote at y = 70,
crosses the y-axis at -5 and
passes through the point (6, 9).
Calculate the value of x such that f (x)=21.
Note: Your answer must be written in decimal with 3 EXACT decimal places of precision.
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i see that f is a straight line
ignore this question can u help me with a different one
and a straight line doesnt have a horizontal asymptote
may i suggest a new channel
i guess it would be better
i will close this channel and then my life
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what is the formula for average velocity?
well its change in distance (displacement) over change in time
what is the change in distance?
distance between the bases are all the same: 27.4m
base lines all form right angles
what does this tell you
what shape has all sides the same length and has all right angles
correct
how so
this is a sqaure
yes
you know all distances between every single base and another
displacement is final coordinate minus initial coordinate
final coordinate is 3rd base
initial coordinate is home
displacement, that is
well think about it, what is the only possible direction you can go from home base to reach 3rd (remember this is average velocity)
think of 2 points
you can only connect them with a straight arrow
how many possible combinations of directions is possible between point 1 and point 2
well you probably need an angle, depends on what your teacher wants
plus you dont know which way "north" is
well if you dont have cardinal directions defined then usually you would use what is in the image
also you need to remember to get average velocity, you only have displacement right now
well that is like incredibly incorrect, and also probably a terrible habit to develop
but if your teacher is fine with it then go with something like "west of north" as direction
more specifically since you are given the angles
45 degrees west of north
dont use that lol
just trust me on this
youll need specific angles later on
using generalization like "north west" or "south east" is a terrible habit
cause you just started out
gonna need them later my man
theyre assuming that the person returns to home base
never says that
anywhere
at all
it says average velocity
not change in distance
dont use north west ;-;
that looks like it was pulled from a 1980's version of a physics book
im going to hope hes just trying to simplify it for you right now
that is crazy
gotta get the average velocity
remember that distance is a scalar unit
doesnt have direction
also you should really say 45 degrees west of north
just for your own sanity later on, dont have to write it down but just keep it in the back of your mind
its just angles
straight line means both sides are 180 degrees
wdym purpose
later on youll need trig
to calculate angles
for direction of vector units
yeah
arctangent and stuff
meh
its like
they give you the equation
but you dont actually gotta know how its derived
i dont think
depends on what physics ur in ig
are you in ap or honors?
ah then maybe
but if youre there then i dont see how you havent learned trig
its just basic trig tho so youll get it
if you already did calculus then ur fine
oh
i guess my school was a bit ahead cause algebra 2 is like
8th grade math
riperoni
makes more sense
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part a?
phrocks?
physics rocks
o
not really, scored 50% in my first lA exam despite knowing enough to get 100
but other than that yeah
hmm
Theorm 2.5.3 has something to do with SNF
$\mqty( I & 0 \ 0 & 0 )$
jan Niku
where I is an r x r identity matrix
which we don't have in our syllabus, so wondering this is doable without the smith normal form
I think if you were very nervous, just use your elementary matrices
I was actually thinking of a geometric approach
write A as some kind of product of a bunch of these
When the ranks of two matrices are the same, they span the same space
wait
that's wrong
hmm
okay
let me try
do you see what i mean about this.
granted, IDK what im doing
no, I don't follow
take rank(A) = rank(B) = r
we do a bunch of rref on A
we end up with an identity matrix, embedded in an otherwise 0 matrix
the identity matrix will have r-many 1s
because the rank is the number of linearhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank_(linear_algebra)
In linear algebra, the rank of a matrix A is the dimension of the vector space generated (or spanned) by its columns. This corresponds to the maximal number of linearly independent columns of A. This, in turn, is identical to the dimension of the vector space spanned by its rows. Rank is thus a measure of the "nondegenerateness" of the system of...
i guess in our case itd be
row rank?

in any case
say like $A = \mqty( 1 & 0 & 1 \ 1 & 5 & 2 \ 1 & 1 & 1 \ 0 & 0 & 0)$
jan Niku
this is equivalent to $E \cdot \mqty( \imat{3} \ 0 & 0 &0 )$
jan Niku
where E is some collection of elementary row operations
we know that these dont change the rank, and they're square
it seems they must be invertible, each on their own
yea i guess we may have something more screwy 
and have everything else in that row be zero
something like $\mqty( 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 )$
jan Niku
but it wont matter
no, you can't
why not
by definition
$\mqty( 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 & 2\ 0 & 0 & 0 & 0 )$
Veni, vidi, perii

this is in RREF


actually, this isnt a problem, is it
the definition of equivalence permits both row and column operations



