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delicate sage
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It does

timber arrow
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so if i wasnt counting for it it wld be 5 x 4/2

dreamy lichen
timber arrow
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if they said as a precondition, that A B is the same as B A then i would do 5 x 4 divided by 2

dreamy lichen
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it would be 5 * 4 / 2

timber arrow
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im a bit confused how does 5 x 4 count for the double

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AB and BA

dreamy lichen
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So it counts AB

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There are 5 ways to choose a first letter. So we can choose B. Then there are 4 ways to choose the other letters, so we can choose A

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so it counts BA as well

timber arrow
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_ _ _ _ _ so i can put A B C D E in the first _ and then in the next one i only have 4 options

timber arrow
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i can put any of the 5 letters in the first, any 4 in the second

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nice thanks

dreamy lichen
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then any 3 in third, any 2 in fourth and the last one goes to the fifth

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so it would be 5 * 4 * 3 * 2 * 1

timber arrow
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yeah exactly but if they said that order doesn't matter

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u divide by 2

dreamy lichen
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if you were choosing 3 things, you would have to divide by 6

timber arrow
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oh yeah cuz it becomes permutation

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so like npr so n!/(n-r)!

dreamy lichen
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and ncr is without order

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that's when you are additionally dividing by r!

timber arrow
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i alw get confused whats the diffewrence between without and with order

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if it says order doesnt matter

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AB = BA

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?

dreamy lichen
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and we would count that with ncr

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if order did matter, we use npr

timber arrow
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so order doesnt matter we have fewer total combinations or more

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than order does matter

dreamy lichen
timber arrow
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um

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yeah

dreamy lichen
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you said doesnt matter twice

timber arrow
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so

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oh yeah i meant than order does

dreamy lichen
timber arrow
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Order doesn't matter = NCR so n!/(n-r)!r! - we have fewer combinations as AB = BA
Order does matter = NPR so n!(n-r)! we have more combinations because AB and BA are distinct combinations

dreamy lichen
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you could say it like that

timber arrow
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cuz each time u add an object u add more repeats

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yeah that makes sm sense

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rigid turret
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is A correct

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thanks for the answer

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timber arrow
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im not sure about how to begin

noble elbow
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So for example, Monday and Tuesday are 12 tickets. The cheapest combination is a book of 8 tickets and a book of 4

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Which costs $8.80

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Wednesday and Thursday are 9, which can be 8 + 1 tickets

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For a cost of 6.60

timber arrow
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cuz

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cant we buy 8 tickets on Monday, have 3 spares which we can use for Tuesday. Then we have 4 left to buy on tuesday. We can buy another 8 so we have 1 left on wednesday to buy. Then we can buy 4, 4 and 1 final on saturday

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so B

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i think its B

cursive pawn
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Didn’t mean to reply

flat veldt
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Discord bug

noble elbow
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since you use your tickets every two days, then it's most efficient to calculate what the cheapest pairing of days is

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as in

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the ones that you can most easily split up into 8 or 6 or four tickets

timber arrow
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ohh thanks

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yeah i misread

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timber arrow
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im not rlly sure

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what the q is asking

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high hill
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yoo

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high hill
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ight we back

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so the answer key is saying the domain is -infinity to 1

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But how I don’t understand? does the graph not end at infinite too

blissful totem
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since the gradient is defined for the 2 piece wise that meet at x=1, it will continue extending infinitely towards the left side

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hence domain of (-inf,1]

high hill
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wait so since it’s two lines

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you have to mark where it bounce

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?

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i’m so cooked

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but i think im getting it no cap

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high hill
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sure

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tame quarry
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How do I evaluate this integral?

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unique stream
tame quarry
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Ah i never thought about that

unique stream
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wdym

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deriving e^(x * ln(a)) gives you ln(a) * e^(x * ln(a))

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and integrating e^(x * ln(a)) gives you 1/ln(a) * e^(x * ln(a))

tame quarry
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scratch what i said

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sorry lol did it wrong

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I’m a little confused on the integrating e^(x*ln(a))

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i thought the e would remain and i would divide it by its exponent +1

unique stream
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deriving e^(a * x) always gives you a * e^(a * x)

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which implies that integrating it instead divides by the factor a

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@tame quarry mostly clear? 🙂

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vast pine
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can someone explain/help me understand trigonometric identities i dont know what there for

vast pine
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or how to use them

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twilit field
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Prove that the limit of x^3 at a is a^3

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twilit field
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so $|(x-a)(x^2+ax+a^2)|< \varepsilon$

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hmm

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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so I can re-write (x^2+ax+a^2) as $(x+a)^2 -ax$

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tribal temple
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You could, if you wanted to Foxy_Popcorn

twilit field
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Would that help?

tribal temple
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It might (the idea I have is different, but I shall not spoil it for now catGiggle)

twilit field
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I think I'll try variations of f(x)=x^2 first

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I don't think I fully understood that in the first place

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let's say x^2+x insetad

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I want to prove the limit is a^2+a

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$|a^2+a| < \varepsilon$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

tribal temple
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(I shall say that doing so would be very close to the proof of showing both x^2 and x have their limits, and "the limit of a sum is the sum of the limits"...)

twilit field
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Yeah, I know

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$|a(a+1)|<\varepsilon$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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I ;ll eat now

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bb soon

tribal temple
sinful topaz
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I’m assuming you want to prove it via this epsilon delta definition

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Otherwise you could just prove that all polynomials are continuous via proving that if f and g are continuous then so is fg (probably by sequential continuity)

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And then that being continuous at a is basically just equivalent to having the limit exist at a

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Ie lim x^3 = f(a) = a^3

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twilit field
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Trying to find the limit of $x^2+x$ at any a \in \R

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twilit field
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so I have to find a delta such that for any $\varepsilon$, there exists a $\delta$ st $|f(x)-L| < \varepsilon$,, there exits a $\delta $ st $|x-a| < \delta$

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?

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
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indeed

twilit field
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so this gives me $|x-a||x+a+1| < \varepsilon$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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now I know $|x+a+1|< |x+a|+1$

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Which doesn't help me much

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
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do some scratch work first

twilit field
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ooh

prime hornet
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usually, the way these go is to "know" what L is, assume the inequality |f(x) - L| < eps, and then find a delta by doing some algebra

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
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then you can start writing your proof

twilit field
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wait, that doesn't help

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I need a minus

prime hornet
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I'm a little confused by what you're doing kongouderp

twilit field
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I'm trying to find a < inequality involving |x+a+1|

twilit field
grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
twilit field
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wait

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so I have $|x^2+x-a^2-a| < \varepsilon$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
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correct

twilit field
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righ

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so $|x^2-a^2+(x-a)| < \varepsilon$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
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right, okay

twilit field
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so continuing from here

prime hornet
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hm, I see

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what've you done from here?

twilit field
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Was thinking of writing |x+a+1| as |x-a+2a+1$

prime hornet
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hm.. I can't exactly see where you're headed here eeveethink

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you still need to find an explicit delta kongouderp

twilit field
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I'm kind of just shooting in the dark at. this point

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I'm lost tbh

prime hornet
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may I suggest doing the following?

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turn $|x^2 + x - (a^2 - a)| < \varepsilon$ to $-\varepsilon < x^2 + x - (a^2 - a) < \varepsilon$

grand pondBOT
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higher!

prime hornet
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you can do this by the definition of the absolute value

twilit field
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Yes

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wait

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one minute

prime hornet
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okie

twilit field
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I think I have an idea

prime hornet
twilit field
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we can say that $|x+a+1|< \varepsilon$

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right

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

prime hornet
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why can we say that?

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the product of two terms being less than a number does not mean each term is less than that number

twilit field
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I know

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1*0.01 is an example

prime hornet
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indeed

twilit field
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I think, on seeing what I did for x^2, I have the right idea, but have to work on justifying this

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so |x+a-(-1)|

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wait, I also know that $|x+a+1| < \frac{\varepsilon}{|x-a|}$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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or alternatively

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$|x-a| < \frac{\varepsilon}{|x+a+1|}$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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Can I have a hint

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or ykw

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let's do something even simpler

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limit of x+1 at a\in R

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twilit field
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prove that the limit of $x+1$ at any $a \in \R$ is $a+1$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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so I have $|x+1-(a+1)| < \epsilon$

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so $|x-1| < \epsilon$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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so $\delta = \epsilon$

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?

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sharp coral
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that doesn't look quite right

twilit field
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Now?

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

sharp coral
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yes

twilit field
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OK. Now I'll try $x^2+x$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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at $a \in \R$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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$|x^2+x-(a^2+a)|<\varepsilon$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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$|x^2-a^2+x-a|< \varepsilon$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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$|x-a||x+a+1|< \varepsilon$

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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<@&286206848099549185>

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so I'm guessing I have

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$|x-a| < \frac{\epsilon}{|x+a+1|}$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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now I want $|x+a+1|>1$say

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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so $|x+a|>0$

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uh

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Veni, vidi, perii

twilit field
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this makes no sense to me

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Could I please have a hint

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<@&286206848099549185>

quiet hinge
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You are trying to prove that the limit x->a x²+x = a²+a and in order to do that, it seems like you are using the epsilon delta definition of a limit

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However you are not correctly using the epsilon delta definition, so write it out in its entirety on a piece of paper and keep it next to you

quiet hinge
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Ah wait nvm

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Thank yoi

solid iris
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its usually phrased like this

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if $0<|p-x_0|<\delta$ then $|f(p)-L|<\ep$

grand pondBOT
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RokettoJanpu

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quicdoom

quiet hinge
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Okay, so you are given f, L and x_0 here. Your job is to find delta (for a given epsilon) such that for all points (not x_0) in a delta width neighbourhood of x_0 satsify |f(p)-L|< epsilon

quiet hinge
twilit field
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yes

quiet hinge
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Okay, so for what delta will
|x²+x -(a²+a)|<epsilon for a given epsilon (keep in mind 0<|x-a|<delta)

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And your delta must be in terms of epsilon , since you want that inequality to hold for all epsilon

twilit field
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so I was thinking of |x^2-a^2|+|x-a|

quiet hinge
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What do you plan to do next?

twilit field
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not sure

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oh wait

quiet hinge
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Try finding an upper bound for |x²-a²|+|x-a| in terms of delta and a, since then you can choose delta so that the upper bound is lesser than epsilon

twilit field
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|(x+a)(x-a)|+|x+a|$

twilit field
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so $|(x+a)||x-a+1|< \varepsilon$

quiet hinge
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Hmm, please recheck

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Veni, vidi, perii

quiet hinge
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Okay, so you have simplified the expression

twilit field
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ooh

quiet hinge
twilit field
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I know use that $|x-(a-1)|>|x|-|a-1|$

grand pondBOT
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Veni, vidi, perii

quiet hinge
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Wouldnt it be better to split it as |x-a+1| \geq |x-a|+1

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Because you know |x-a| < delta, you would have found an upper bound for the |x-a+1| factor (|| delta +1 is an upper bound||)

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Now find an upper bound for the |x+a| factor (keep in mind the upper bound must be in terms of delta, a and other constants because only then can you control it to be as small as you like)

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twilit field
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Hav a class now, will come back to this in a bit

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Proove that in any scalene triangle this is false: lenght of IH=2024 and GH=2023, where G is the center of gravity of the triangle and I is the center of the inscribed circle

delicate helm
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and H?

sweet spire
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H-orthocenter

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Sorry

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@delicate helm do you have an idea?

delicate helm
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no

sour stirrup
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Huhu

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Is this close?

sweet spire
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What do you mean by close )))

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delicate helm
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After playing around with this for a bit i think this question is a red herring

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And in fact IH <= GH in any triangle

sweet spire
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Hmm okay

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Is this theory?

delicate helm
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conjecture

sweet spire
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how do I write this?

delicate helm
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I suspect that this can be proven using copious amounts of vector algebra

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it is enough to show that GH² - IH² >= 0

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which i would guess is possible

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That said i don't recommend this method unless you wanna kill entire day expanding alebraic expression

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But i also don't know a better method

sweet spire
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wow

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I ll take a look

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deep hollow
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hello

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what are you having trouble with ?

deep hollow
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do u at least have a drawing or a graph

sweet spire
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This could help

deep hollow
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sorry algebra isnt my strongest of works im good with calculus

sweet spire
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Oh okay

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radiant trout
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its still not nice but simplify it and see if you can get somewhere

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jaunty canopy
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it looks like u have an expression for IH and GH so you might be able to prove GH > IH from that

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i was never really any good at olympiad geometry but a better place to ask for help might be the maths olympiad discord server

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u'll be able to find ppl who can actually do oly geometry that'll be able to help u

radiant trout
sweet spire
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I tried multiple things but didnt got too far

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I also tried cos theorem in IGH triangle

radiant trout
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what about the inequality

sweet spire
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nope

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I dont know where to start proving the inequality

radiant trout
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what is the inequality though after simplifying

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im too lazy to

pure hollow
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A(x)= root of x to the fourth power simplify

sudden yacht
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bleak steppe
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does it have something to have with euler's line?

sweet spire
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I got the answer

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Thank you for your help

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It was something with the angle GIH which has to be less thank 90°

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And euler s line

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slender talon
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Can someone help me w this one?

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slender talon
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Not sure if I even did the other questions right but I got the answer… all I did was (in previous questions) was to calculate what would make RHS turn into LHS

wild fern
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Did you check your answer?

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To see if +4 was right?

slender talon
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Wait gimme a sec

slender talon
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It’s 37/7 units right

wild fern
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Not sure bc I can't do the calculation atm

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But basically do the first line again

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But don't move the numbers around

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Just calculate the right side

slender talon
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Okay thank you! Lemme try that

wild fern
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Left side should be y

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And then you're left with y = some fraction

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Then add (or subtract) the appropriate fraction to get
y + (something) = 3/2

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2f(x)f'(x)= (f(x))^2+(f'(x))^2 (after differentiating)

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from the equation I can only understand that this type of function is impossiple. because if of the highest degree of lhs is x^(2n-1) then the highest degree of RHS will be x^2n which is contradictory

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2•f'/f = 1 + (f'/f)^2

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Let u(x) = (f'/f)(x)
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I get y'=y^2/(2y-1)

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ok I made a mistake

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I get (f(x)-f'(x))^2=0

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I didn't notice it makes a perfect square

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I only thought of polynomials

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Yes, you figured out that it can't be a polynomial. But ofc it doesn't have to be

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Well done 👍 You almost solved it immediately on your own

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I just overlooked it

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We still need to handle the initial conditions. It could be C•e^x for any C in R.

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if you simplify you get f(x)=f'(x)

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i wasnt taught diff eqs yet

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how to check convergence if x is the power?

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comparison

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use uhhhh x^2 + 5^x > 5^x for all x > 1

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which is the dominant value?

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,, \forall x>1

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thats if for the denom

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but what about the numerator

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try to find something similar

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so I pick 3^x?

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not that similar

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so I choose x alone?

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you should pick something that's BIGGER

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if old numerator / denominator < new numerator / denominator and the latter still converges, then so does the former

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but I still need to do the P test to know if I need to use a bigger or smaller number right?

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yes this problem is more than just 1 step

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what do you mean by picking something bigger? choose any number or only from the equation?

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something that's bigger than the numerator for all x

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so any number is fine?

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like say 3^x+1 is that ok?

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no

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old numerator = x + 3^x + 2

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i dont get what you mean for picking the new numerator

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so you saying like pick bigger i adjust numerator?

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if so how I adjust it

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probably should have said that 30 minutes ago

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what would be approximately the value of x^x/(1-x!) at x = 500?

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how does that definite integral turn into e^2x - C^2

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how did the solution set i get the pi/4

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how to get range fort his

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this is how the graph looks like

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i mean

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(0, infinity)

lofty chasm
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no

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the function is $g(x) = \frac{1}{x}$ with bound $x \in \mathbb{R}$ and $x \geq 3$

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so x can only have values ranging from 3 to infinity

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so 1/3, 1/4, 1/5 .......... 1/inf

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starting point of range is 1/3

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and end point is 1/inf which approaches 0

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the range is 0 < g(x) </ 1/3

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so range is (0, 1/3]

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my bad sorry

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Solving the given equation I got x=7/2y

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i dont think x = 7/2 y

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$\frac{x}{y} = \frac{14}{3}$

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Sorry it was a silly mistake

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now on to $\frac{x^2 + y^2}{x^2-y^2}$

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What to do further?

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u have value of x/y

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-x ²/y² + y²/X2

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what

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take y^2 common from both numerator and denominator

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you'll be left with $\frac{y^2(\frac{x^2}{y^2} +1)}{y^2(\frac{x^2}{y^2} -1)}$

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y^2 cancels out, then just substitute the value of x/y

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Ok

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thats right

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im very confused as to why the value for Rb is wrong

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i used wolfram alpha

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maybe this site is weird and expects 0.001613

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didnt work lol

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ill bring it up with the prof i guess

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(without rounding any value, it comes out to 0.00161246976619…)

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hi

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if 1<a, b, c

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hi

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Hello

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then is this true

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hi

last slate
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and 1/a = 1/b + 1/c
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If a, b, c > 1
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yeah

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if a>b, then what about 1/a and 1/b? is 1/a > 1/b? Do you need 1/a > 1/b?

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what are they trying to sya here

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matrix multiplication is not commutative in general, but some matrices "commute" in the sense that AB = BA

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so in this case, they are saying that polynomials of a particular square matrix have this property, that they commute with each other

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Need help with the last one

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so the contradiction statement would be $P \implies \neg(P \land Q)$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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so $P \vee \neg(\neg(P \land Q))$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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or $P \vee (P \land Q)$

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Now what

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I mean this is just $( P \vee Q)$

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what's wrong with this

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nothing? What should be wrong with it

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got my mistake

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I'm really confused

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what columns would teh truth table have here

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P,Q, \neg P , P \implies \negQ, \neg Q \implies P, P iff \neg Q, P \lor Q, P \land Q

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anything else

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If you want to prove this using truth table, then it should have at least P <=> -Q and (P v Q) ^ -(P ^ Q)

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you can include few more columns that will help you in building the truth table

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I think the truth table will be overkill here

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yeah, it might be

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so $P \iff \neg Q$ is the same as $ (P \vee \neg (\neg Q)) \land (\neg Q \vee \neg P)$

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that's interesting approach

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so $P \vee Q$is true

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Yep, if P <=> -Q is true, then P v Q is true as well

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the second part can be further simplified to exactly what you need btw, through a certain rule I wont spoil

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If A is true, \neg A must be false

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what is A?

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so this is the same as $\neg(P \land Q)$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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now I know \neg(P \land Q) is true

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so $P \land Q$ must be false

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Yes, (-Q v -P) is same as -(P ^ Q), by ||De Morgan's law||

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Veni, vidi, perii

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So basically here I have to show that $\implies$ and $\iff$ can be expressed in terms of $\land, \lor, \neg$

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right

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Veni, vidi, perii

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Like can a statement form have $\exists$?

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Veni, vidi, perii

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or $\forall$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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that's not in propositional logic

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ah, okay

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you dont need to worry about it

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This is going to be hard

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hmm

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Like I can have a string of n nested implications

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oh

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not too bad

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A -> B -> C does already contain only negation and implication

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the thing is, you need to deal with statements like A ^ B, A v B, A <=> B

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Yeah, this is a good question IMO

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either that or I'm just bad at this

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How formal is your book?

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Does it define well-formed formulas by recursion?

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Not sure if we've defined well formed yet

dreamy lichen
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I mean that's not too hard

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just a minute

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So $A \land B \equiv \neg(\neg(A) \vee \neg B) \equiv \neg(\neg A \implies B)$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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Similarly $A \vee B \equiv (A \vee \neg(\neg B)) \equiv A \implies \neg B$

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Veni, vidi, perii

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there is a small mistake

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in the second step

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yeah they're both somewhat wrong

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try putting in that A and B are both true and you can see the equivalence doesn't quite work because the expressions you ended up with are false

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A -> B is equivalent to -A v B

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not A v -B

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someone help i got the answer as yes but idk bc its 4 marks

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he doesnt have enough cement to make 180kg concrete mix

night gyro
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how

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1 : 3 : 5

night gyro
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ye

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if weight of cement required is x

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then sand and gravel would be 3x and 5x respectively

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in total this all should add up to 180kg

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wait isnt cememnt 15

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so x+3x+5x = 180

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x= 20

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so he needs 20kg of cement

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but only has 15kg

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hence he doesnt have enough to make the concrete mix

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ooo ok

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but thats the amount he has

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its not the amount required to make 180kg of concrete mix

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tht wht he has oooooooo

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what i did was to find how much cement he would need for 180kg of concrete mix

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ok

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i see

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so questions like this u have to involve x

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wht abt this i was savin this to ask

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but none responds

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idk if its correct but we do 6x1.8

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yes

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find area of the rectangular wall

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which is 10.8

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and also area of the tile (in m^2)

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10.8m squared

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then we do tile

novel lion
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not the rectangular wall

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nvm

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my bad

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yes

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its 10.8 m^2

night gyro
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yh

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then w convert 60cm and 30cm to m

novel lion
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and area of a tile is 0.18 m^2

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now find how many total tiles will be used to cover that wall?

night gyro
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yh

novel lion
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so that will be?

night gyro
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10.8 devide by 0.18

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?

novel lion
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yes

night gyro
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60

novel lion
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right

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but thats total tiles

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u need the number of tiles of each color

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see what information is given that could be used for that

night gyro
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so 60 times 3/5

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number of white tiles?

novel lion
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yes

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36

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white tiles

novel lion
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so how many tiles left after that?

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60-36

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24

novel lion
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right

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now u need to split those 24 tiles between green and blue

night gyro
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yh

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how will you do that?

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check the question, do you see any information that can help here?

night gyro
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green to blue is 1:3

novel lion
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yes

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24/3?

novel lion
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no

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1:3

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so basically 4 parts in total

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yh

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right?

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wait how 4parts?

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3+1

novel lion
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1/4 : 3/4

night gyro
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24/4

novel lion
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yes

night gyro
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which is 6

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6 green tiles

novel lion
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yes

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and 18 blue tiles

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omggg

novel lion
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correct

night gyro
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less gooo

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what

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bro how do u think

novel lion
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wot

night gyro
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like as soon as i talked to u i understood everything

novel lion
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skillz

night gyro
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this type of questions wht do u look for?

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u solve it easily

novel lion
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well, firstly you had dimensions of wall and tile given

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so you can find the number of tiles

night gyro
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yh

novel lion
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thats it

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for the rest part info was given

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like 3/5 while tiles

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so u just multiply 60 with 3/5

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and 1:3 green to blue tiles

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so u use that to find green and blue tiles

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question solved

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my brain started tweakin yesterday bc i couldnt solve this

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thanks man i have exams soon so im doin much questions as possible

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Show that if G is simple and bipartite then epsilon<= v²/4 wut

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Suppose the partitions have m and n vertices respectively (so m+n = v)

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what's the most edges you can have in this graph?

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for what values of m and n is that number maximised?

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wut and in the next ques they ask to generalize this

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To derive a formula for k-partite graph

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@frail carbon they have used this formula in the answer key any hints over this que wut

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do the brackets [.] and {.} refer to floor and ceiling?

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as in the two integers closest to n/m (unless n/m is an integer in which case just n/m)

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sorry I had to leave for a while. If a vertex is in a subset with i vertices to maximise the number of edges in the graph you want an edge for each of the n-i vertices not in the same subset. You can also then explicitly find how many subsets are of what size

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U there ? @frail carbon

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Each part has k = [n/m] vertices, or possibly one more

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you can explicitly write n = kr + s for some r, some s < k

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then in terms of r and s find the maximum number of edges, and then rearrange the result to get the formula

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you are asking for hints for 2.9 now right? or have I misunderstood

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@frail carbon i believe I was able to do it algebraically
But I still don't get the intuition behind it and the result looks like a combinatorial counting
Can you explain how can we arrive at the result intuitively

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I don't have an intuition for this either I'm afraid

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There probably is one

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But I just don't see it

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sully dam np
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I would not

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Hmm

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I also asked a prodigy frnd of mine he couldn't find one either

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Require help the b part of this question

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last slate
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$$\frac{dT}{dr} = \frac{-q}{2 \pi k_{\text{insulation}} r_3}$$

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Edmund Cloudsley

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if we integrate this, we should get

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$$\int dT =\int \frac{-q}{2 \pi k_{\text{insulation}} r_3} dr$$

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Edmund Cloudsley

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$$T = \frac{-q}{2 \pi k_{i}} \ln{r_3} + C$$

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Edmund Cloudsley

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we can equate temperature to 50 degs celcius, we know q, we know k_i

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how do we find C?

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unlike part (a) wherein we can find C by using the temperature at r_1 however here, the equation doesn't share the same k as r1 and r2

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The worked solution in this book, they have simply utilised the C value derived from part (a). But I am unable to make sense of it.

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since in part (a), we utilise $k_{\text{pipe}}$ instead of $k_{\text{insulation}}$

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feel free to ping me, I would be on another tab!

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yup

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So the intial condition they have utilised involves a different value of k

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x^3-15x^2+68x-96=0

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Solve by factoring

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In general, when you're given a cubic to solve by hand, there's generally going to be at least one integer/rational root

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you can use the rational root theorem to narrow down your possibilities and then test them

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what the hell

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bro theres so many factors of 96

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i dont wanna do allat 😭

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ye thank u but how tf u get that answer

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I MEANT WORKING OUT

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delicate sage
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ur kidding me

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Or proceed by making the cube depressed

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so i have to go through all the factors of 96

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and see if they work

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delicate sage
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Else I said , go ahead to make it a depressed cubic

feral sedge
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i.e. start with smaller numbers

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100% of the time you will not need to test much to find a root

turbid nova
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ok

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lesson learned

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trial and errror

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fuck me man

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fuck maths

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last slate
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what is the derivative of x pentation n

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last slate
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x^x^x^x^x^x........ n times

delicate sage
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n tends infinity?

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well maybe you can do something with induction but I doubt this has a nice formula

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i don't really have a proof for this but i assume this is what a general formula would look like

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(let me type it out)

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let $^n x$ be the nth tetration of x (if you were talking about pentation it would be a different story)

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$\frac{d}{dx} ,^n x = ,^n x F(x,n-1)$\
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$F(x,k) = \begin{cases}\log(x) + 1 \text{ if } n=1 \ \frac{^{n-1} x}{x} + ,^{n-1} x \log(x) F(x,k-1) \text{ otherwise}\end{cases}$

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