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iron escarp
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iron escarp
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apparently it's not a mistake but I dont' understand

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unkempt stratus
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I didn't get help with all sections of this last night but I did not see section D.

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Can you please help me figure out the equation for section d? Those are the correct answers I just need to know how to find it I know how to do a -c

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@ me pls

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When u see this

summer terrace
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@unkempt stratus same way as you did with c)

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just this time, you dont want the population to be 8M

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you want it to be double the initial population

unkempt stratus
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6.14e^0.0238t•2?

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Or 6.14(7.1)^0.0238t

summer terrace
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neither

unkempt stratus
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Oof

summer terrace
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just translate the words into math 😛

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you want the population to be twice the initial population

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let me ask you, what is the initial population?

unkempt stratus
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6.14

summer terrace
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right, so we want the population to be double of 6.14

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we want it to be 12.28M

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now, the population is modeled using the function you found in a)

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so, just set P(t)=12.28

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and find out what t has to be

unkempt stratus
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12.28=6.14e^0.0238t

summer terrace
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yes, now just solve it

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isolate the time t

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that would be the number of years that have to pass in order for the population of the city to become 12.28

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entiendes

unkempt stratus
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29.12..etc

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Okay tty very much :F

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😄

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spiral ravine
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spiral ravine
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I can’t wrap my head around how I would word this

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Like 5 times the distance from 2x + 3 ???

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The wording is so confusing

odd lagoon
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the distance from chenoas school is x?

spiral ravine
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i dont know

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the wording is throwing me off so much

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I dont know how I would write it down

odd lagoon
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if so i think you typed it right

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if you call that x

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you could say 2x + 3

spiral ravine
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How is it 2 + 3

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2x+3

odd lagoon
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+3 because 3 times more

spiral ravine
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twice the distance would be 2x

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?

odd lagoon
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they should say 3 times further

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yes

spiral ravine
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but thats only from the coffee shop to the school

odd lagoon
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exactly

spiral ravine
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so how do we know what x is referring to

odd lagoon
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yes so that is one expression

spiral ravine
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its only referring to the distance from the coffee shop to the school

odd lagoon
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we can look at the next part

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i gotta read it rq

spiral ravine
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this is where im at

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would it be this

odd lagoon
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sorry now it threw me off too kekw

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the second part anyway

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you might need multiple variables and do some kind of equation system

spiral ravine
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it shouldnt

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its only unit 1 of geometry

odd lagoon
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ah alright

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hmm

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you might need a different helper sry i couldnt assist you further

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i wanna see how to solve this as well

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last slate
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Ye?

odd lagoon
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i guess for me my personal question is if you would need an equation system or not

last slate
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I see

odd lagoon
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then if camarozzz wants to ask for more help then by all means he should

last slate
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It would be 1 equation

odd lagoon
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yeah ok then that answers my personal question

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so thanks for that

spiral ravine
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ofc it would be 1 equation?

last slate
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No worries bro

spiral ravine
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wait I think I got it

odd lagoon
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i just didnt know i am not familiar with what 1 unit of geometry means

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language barrier or new concept for me

spiral ravine
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this should be right think about it

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home to coffee shop is 3 miles more than twice

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so that means the coffee shop to school is half minus the 3 miles

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and the home to school is 5 times coffee shop to school which is 2 miles

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so 10x

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6x+3=10x

odd lagoon
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sounds like you meet the condition with that yeah

spiral ravine
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but I just used random numbers

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that made sense

odd lagoon
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damn

spiral ravine
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I could have used

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20x+3 and 10x and 50x

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probably not equivelant

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so im stuck

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OOOOH

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I got it

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it would be 2x + 3 + x = 5x

odd lagoon
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in sorry i just figured out that x is the distance from coffee shop the school opencry

spiral ravine
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lol

odd lagoon
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but nice good job man

spiral ravine
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the wording is really challenging

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I had to get it wrong to see the explanation but I was on the right track :/

odd lagoon
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still good job but sad you didnt just logic it all the way

spiral ravine
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its only 1 point out of 80 anyways

odd lagoon
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at least u have more experience now

spiral ravine
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( its a lot of questions )

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yeah

odd lagoon
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big win have a nice day good luck with the rest

spiral ravine
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thanks man

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How did I get this wrong

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3x+1 is equal to 2x+8

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if you solve for x you get 7

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then do 3(7)+1+4(7)-6+2(7)+8

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and get 22+22+22

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so 66

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Is this right?

small jasper
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how about this?

small jasper
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thank you

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twilit field
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could I have a hint?

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twilit field
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So the first thing I did was to find the number of possible combinations, which is c(100,10)

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next the possible digits in each places

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So The sum of the first 90 natural numbers has 4 digits

small jasper
twilit field
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The sum can be bounded by chosing the 10 largest numbers in the set , for that will give us an upper bound

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we then find the summation of the 10 smallet numbers in the set

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and that gives us a lower bound

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the lower bound is 55

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the upper bound is 1045

hard shard
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sus

twilit field
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,w sum of first 10 natural numbers

hard shard
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oh that part is fine

twilit field
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,w sum of natural numbers from 91 to 100

chrome vessel
twilit field
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ahh

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955

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oops

hard shard
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another way is add 90 to each term

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55+90*10=955

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how do you get from ten terms summing to 55 to summing to 56

twilit field
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I don't follow

hard shard
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which part?

twilit field
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how do you get from ten terms summing to 55 to summing to 56

hard shard
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what ten terms sum to 55?

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i should say elements

twilit field
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First 10 elements

hard shard
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what ten elements sum to 56?

last plaza
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can anyone help me

small jasper
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twilit field
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elements from 2 to 10 +12

hard shard
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check that sum

twilit field
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oops

hard shard
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note that you only need to add one to one of the elements

twilit field
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Yeah, I realise that. I have to add one element and remove one element

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so remove say 9, add 11

hard shard
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removing 9 is the same as doing what to the total?

chrome vessel
twilit field
hard shard
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and then putting in 11 does what?

twilit field
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increases it by 2 units

hard shard
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its +11

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the net effect is +2

twilit field
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yeah

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That's what I meant

hard shard
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so how can you make the net effect +1?

twilit field
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I would add 10, but 10 would be repeated then

hard shard
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yes

twilit field
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So you can't achieve 56

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57, yes

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58,no

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59 , yes

hard shard
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which element can you remove and then put in the +1 version without repeating?

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stop

twilit field
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I can remove 10 and add 11

hard shard
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yup

twilit field
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hmm, so every number between 955 and 55 can be achieved

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so the answer is 900?

hard shard
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fence post

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how many integer in 10 to 20 inclusive?

twilit field
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11

hard shard
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what about 55 to 955?

twilit field
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901

hard shard
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yup

twilit field
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Thanks

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hard shard
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youre welcoem

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twilit field
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so Induction I would guess?

chrome vessel
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specifically, when you reach 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, 100 what do you do now?

chrome vessel
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if you have $a_1,\ldots, a_{10}$ that sums to $k$, then can you create a set of distinct numbers that sum to $k+1$?

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suppose the $k$ is not 945

grand pondBOT
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qwertytrewq

twilit field
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Remove say $a$ and to that add $a+1$

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(why am i here )= idk

chrome vessel
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what if a+1 is 101?

twilit field
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et the last element be $d$ , then we have $k=d-a$ we we add the number d+k

grand pondBOT
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(why am i here )= idk

grand pondBOT
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qwertytrewq

twilit field
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I think I'll come back to this in a bit

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Maybe after I become a bit more familiar with induction

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sorry

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junior flower
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what did you guys come up with for final answer?

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901?

chrome vessel
junior flower
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cool

last slate
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LAYLLAAAAAAAAAA

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hi

junior flower
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why the fuck is your name sweatyballs_123

last slate
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idk

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how have u been

junior flower
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bad

last slate
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💔 i hope things get better for u soon

junior flower
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that would be nice

last slate
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🙏

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this is part of my friends solution

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im confused on where the 1 went from the -2a^2k+1

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oh nvm she just wrote it wrong

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wary thorn
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perhaps your sir divided through by "a"

drifting root
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it actually had 2k+1 a's to be divided by

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😂

drifting root
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then there would be inconsistency in the first term tho

wary thorn
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Indeed

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your sir made a typo

drifting root
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yea probs

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is there any manipulation used cause I’m stuck

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uncut cloud
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is the exponent 11?

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in x^? = 1

chilly cobalt
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x^11

viral dagger
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x isnt real :(

chilly cobalt
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fr

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no?

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complex

merry pewter
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11th root of unity

uncut cloud
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do you know the name for a value like x is?

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that lol

chilly cobalt
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just wondering how 1/1 + x + x^2 would even simplify

uncut cloud
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burnt flame
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$\f{1-x^{3n}}{1-x^{n}}=1+x^{n}+x^{2n}$

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🫎 Moosey 🫎

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hoary drift
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which set is this?

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runic hamlet
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natural numbers including 0

hoary drift
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why didnt they just write W 💀

runic hamlet
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because nearly no one cares about W

hoary drift
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ok

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Please help understand this question.

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@delicate helm Thank you for your help yesterday!

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I would like to show how it works, but I am a bit confused, if it works at all.

We have the usual propositions:
φ, ψ, θ in {false, true}

So one way of composition of logical and operators, or functions would be:
(φ ∧ ψ) ∧ θ

Here the result of (φ ∧ ψ) is used as input in another and function … ∧ θ

A proposition is a subset P ⊆ X of subsets of X, for which P holds.

The logical and operation is an intersection of such subsets P ⋂ Q ⊆ X

For instance, if X is all the possible states of a potato, and P means boiled, while Q means cooked, then P ⋂ Q are all the states of a potato when it is both boiled and cooked.

⋂: A → B
⋂: (P, Q) ↦ ⋂(P, Q)

and: Boolean × Boolean → Boolean

Boolean is the set {false, true}:
and: {false,true} × {false,true} → {false,true}

∩: P(X) × P(X) → P(X)

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and seems to be analogous to multiplication in integers modulo 2.

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from sympy import symbols, And

# Define abstract Boolean variables
a, b, c = symbols('a b c')

# Compose the logical AND function using symbolic variables
result = And(And(a, b), c)

print(result)  # Output: And(a, b, c)
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So can we do the following:

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$and \circ and$

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shut canyon
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I think and(a, b) could be composed like this: and(and(a,b), c)

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We can compose two functions if they have the same codomain and domain:
dom g = cod f, so dom f = dom(g ∘ f) and cod(g ∘ f) = cod g

dom ∧ = {false, true} × {false, true}
cod ∧ = {false, true}

Perhaps this is why we can't compose, because the domain of and has a different form, than codomain of and.

shell wigeon
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It's a partial composition

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pearl idol
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Yeah I wouldn't use this notation for it, as it's ambiguous if the right AND is occurring in the first or second argument of the left AND

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I am stuck on this proof. I don't know where to begin
If 10^x = 2 then x is irrational

exotic pelican
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a simple proof by contradiction should work. Assume that x = p/q for integers p and q

elfin fox
exotic pelican
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oh no dont use any logs

novel lion
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try taking log with base 10 instead, if log

exotic pelican
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$10^{\frac{p}{q}}=2$

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exotic pelican
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theres one simple thing you can do from here

elfin fox
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Raise both sides to q/p is the only other thing I can think of

exotic pelican
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raising both sides is good, try to just get rid of the fraction

elfin fox
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Raise both sides by q?

exotic pelican
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yeah

elfin fox
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Lhs and rhs are both integers now

exotic pelican
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$10^p = 2^q$ and just think about whether this is possible or not

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elfin fox
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I see
5 is a factor of the left and not the right?

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Thank you

exotic pelican
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right (unless ofc p is zero but that can be excluded)

elfin fox
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Oh true yeah thank you

exotic pelican
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also negatives

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Why only when it converges?

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When it converges the limit will have a finite value

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I am guessing that's the reason

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Even if it is I don't understand why

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Help?

shadow schooner
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take point 1. the limit is a real number with a special property, then if either the limit of the a_n or b_n does not exist as a real number then adding these limit will not make sense.

last slate
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Oh

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Yeah

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Makes sense

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A lot

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Same with the rest of the properties too right?

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Division with infinity as denominator won't make sense

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Okay

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could someone tell me

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how did they go to xsquare+ysquare=y

cinder basin
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I think "start with y = r sinθ" is typo, should be start with r = sinθ ,this is a circle

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ok got it

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twilit field
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${(x,x+y) : x \in R, y\in \Z}$

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grand pondBOT
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(why am i here )= idk

twilit field
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is this just $\R^2$

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Y/N

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(why am i here )= idk

runic hamlet
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why do you think so

polar mortar
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hmmm, doubt it.

twilit field
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I mean say x=2, it maps to (2,3),(2,4),(2,5) \dots (2,2+y)

polar mortar
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what about when x = 0?

twilit field
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it maps to (0,1),(0,2).....(0,n)

polar mortar
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so, how would you get something like (0, pi)?

twilit field
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hmm, you can't

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I mean it isn't R^2

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But It surely isn't a standard curve either, is it

modern sapphire
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can you try a small plot for a constant y?

twilit field
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Y/N

modern sapphire
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Put y = 0 and see what you get

twilit field
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For a constant y , it'x x=k

modern sapphire
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you mean (k,k)?

twilit field
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oh yeah

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my bad

modern sapphire
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and is that a standard curve?

twilit field
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yeah

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y=x

modern sapphire
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and what if y = 1

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whats the pair you get

twilit field
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(x,x+1)

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y=x+1

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oooh

modern sapphire
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and so on for all y

twilit field
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Why didn't I see that

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😭

modern sapphire
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if you see a countable set, try enumerating the set element by element if you dont get a clear idea immediately

twilit field
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so It's the family of curves parallel to x=y

pearl idol
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Wouldn't that just be all of R^2?

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All of R^2 is contained on some line that's parallel to the line x=y

modern sapphire
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yeah, it's a family of curves. Saying the is a little strong

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or you need more qualifiers on that set

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Could someone please give an example opposite to the case shown here.

grim vector
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Both are not the same?

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I thought since they both were proving that the limit exists,they are the same

tribal temple
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Hmmm, "the same" how?

grim vector
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So you want an example where the limit doesn't exist ?

last slate
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Yes

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I'm very bad at proving stuff through definations

grim vector
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You can try with (-1)^n

last slate
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Okay I will try

last slate
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No

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Like

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What shpuldni take the value of L as ?

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Should*

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I

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@grim vector ?

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Funny

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The next example

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Is the one you gave

grim vector
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I cant write a lot actually, but its explained here

last slate
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Ty

grim vector
south seal
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Yes it is alternating sequence

last slate
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@grim vector

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?

last slate
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Instead of 1/3 if I had chosen something greater than 1

last slate
grim vector
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Can you show the whole ?

summer ravine
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how is 1 <1/3

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oh that's the question

last slate
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grim vector
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Ye

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Is it because the definition says "for every epsilon >0"?

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So we have to take every case

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Just taking some epsilon >1 won't do

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Am I right?

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@grim vector ?

grim vector
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If epsilon is greater than 1 that would work indeed

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But making it tends to zero

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It became wrong

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Moreover this is true cuz all value of (-1)^n are between -1 and 1 so the abs value is < 1

last slate
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Epsilon

last slate
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I didn't get you

grim vector
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Epsilon, in the meaning iirc has to tends to zero, with that, at a certain point you have all the values of the sequence/function close to the limit, but since epsilon tends to zero and has to be greater than 1 its not logical so limit does not exist

last slate
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Oh

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I didn't know that epsilon should tend to zero

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But

grim vector
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Thats how i see it

last slate
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Okay so 0<epsilon<1 ?

grim vector
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Since you need counterexample

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Ig it works

last slate
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Am I wrong again?

grim vector
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(That will probably works the same with cos(n) and sin(n) as well)

grim vector
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Epsilon has to be little cuz otherwise we cant figure the limit out ( imagine it being like epsilon = 3, it means that all the terms are around the limit with a max distance of 3 at a certain step. So its better to have a little distance rather than a big one, its more precise

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so using chain rule for z_t I get

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z_t = f_x(x_t) + f_y(y_t) = f_x(2ts) + f_y(2)

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whats the next step

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z_ts = f_x(x_t)(x_s) + f_xy(x_s)(y_s) + f_y(y_t)(y_s) ?

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oh wait is it:

z_ts = f_xx(x_t)(x_s) + f_xy(x_t)(y_s) + f_yy(y_t)(y_s) + f_xy(y_t)(x_s)

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-2(2ts)(t^2) + 5(2t)(3) + 2/3(2)(3) + (5)(2)(t^2)

0 + 0 + 4 + 0 = 4?

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shit idk

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brain died a bit

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craggy owl
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What am I doing wrong?

viral dagger
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x is correct

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huh, i got the same

craggy owl
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could it be asking for something else?

viral dagger
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oh

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reread the q

craggy owl
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yea?

viral dagger
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whats it asking

craggy owl
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the amount of cell phones will minimaze the cost

viral dagger
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mhm

craggy owl
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hmm

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i thought my math was represting that

viral dagger
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so, is that asking for the cost?

craggy owl
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no

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the phone amount

viral dagger
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right

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and whats the variable we use for phone ammount?

craggy owl
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13.8, right?

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wait x

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and x is 13.8

viral dagger
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yea

craggy owl
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my first answer was 13.8 *1000

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but that was wrong as well

viral dagger
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its asking in thousands

viral dagger
craggy owl
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ah

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so by 100

viral dagger
craggy owl
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like 13.8 *100

viral dagger
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no

craggy owl
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so itd be in thousands

viral dagger
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err

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you got x=13.8 thousand right?

craggy owl
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well x is 13.8

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at least how i solved for it

viral dagger
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yeah sorry

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fuck how do i say it

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if i say the answer is just 13.8 will you understand me

craggy owl
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alr

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just this part

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was making me rethink everything

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ah

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omg

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isee

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im dumb

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thank you

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the thousand is already in the answer-----

viral dagger
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yeah thats what i wanted to say i had no idea how

craggy owl
viral dagger
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good job

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thanks

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bye

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Find the amount of (A,B) such that A and B are subsets of {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6}
and. |A| |B| = |AUB| |AUB|

chilly cobalt
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I got that A = B and |A| = 1,2

small jasper
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Are you sure? A=B={1,2,3,4,5,6} is possible.

nova yoke
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any A=B works
and with a bit of effort you can show that A=B is necessary as well

small jasper
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Is $|A \cup B|$ actually written twice on the right hand side?

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Civil Service Pigeon

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for what class?

hard shard
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heres a hint: the function of air density is based on what?

floral apex
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hello?

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bawangs hint is good

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you could think about this as maybe like, what'd be the easiest way to do this?

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and to me, itd be easiest to add up all these slices

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if in each slice, the density was the same all over the slice

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because if we have something like idk $\sum _{\text{slice}} \text{density}(s,w)$

grand pondBOT
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jan Niku

floral apex
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where s and w are the other two variables describing some point on our one dimensional slice

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this is pretty not so bad if density is constant over that slice, i think

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does that help at all

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yeah its f

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how to express U(n) in function of n? I want a brief demonstration if possible.

queen ermine
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Try

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Like

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Computing the first 2

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for n = 0 and n = 1

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and n = 2

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and look at what you have

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Oh nvm I dun goofd

twilit coyote
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i did that

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but where now

floral apex
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are you sure its possible thonk

twilit coyote
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what makes u doubt that

floral apex
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well i mean it wouldnt be hard to write down a recurrence relation you cant solve just like its not hard to write down a differential equation with no solution

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just asking though

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nothing poking at it seems straightforward but im pretty bad at math

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have you tried oeis?

twilit coyote
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im pretty french bud, soz

floral apex
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1 sec

twilit coyote
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hm?

west iron
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Looks like a Mobius function

twilit coyote
west iron
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Could be overkill

floral apex
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numerator appears to be OEIS A060819

west iron
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I'd start by trying polynomial division

plain osprey
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it involves creating a new sequence

feral sedge
twilit coyote
twilit coyote
floral apex
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and the denominator is a shifted version of the top

twilit coyote
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this isnt a special sequence

plain osprey
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work it out from there

twilit coyote
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how will i do that

floral apex
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$U_n = \frac{ (n+7) }{ \text{gcd}(n+7, 4) }\frac{ \text{gcd}(n+4,4) }{ (n+4) }$

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jan Niku

twilit coyote
floral apex
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hmm might be off by 1

feral sedge
floral apex
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i think i am, actually

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nah, I'm just stealing from OEIS

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this is where i'd start

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PERSONALLY

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only because im bad at math

plain osprey
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then express Vn in function of n since its arithmetic

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then substitute it

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in

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using equations

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solve for Un

west iron
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,w x = (5x-1)/(x+3)

twilit coyote
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wtf

floral apex
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it has some fixed points

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oddly

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right

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do ap usually have fixed points

twilit coyote
floral apex
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i dont remember

west iron
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It's not an ap

floral apex
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i didnt think so

west iron
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Maybe the numerator is at least in an unreduced version

plain osprey
west iron
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anyways

twilit coyote
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im trying it rn

floral apex
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it appears that the numerator is a translated version of the denominator

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why not try starting there

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if u really dont want to just rip the sol from oeis

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altho i should scribble to make sure its actually helpful

twilit coyote
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the hell is that

west iron
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It probably works but there's 0 motivation

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wait

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don't you want Un-1 on the bottom anyways

grand pondBOT
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jan Niku

plain osprey
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.

floral apex
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cause u can express those in terms of n

floral apex
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use a computer to calculate whatever, 25 terms, put them into oeis

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it tells you some esoteric function that generates that sequence

plain osprey
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idk what this is

floral apex
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check the next 75 terms or so and see if theyre right

floral apex
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theyre translated off each other

feral sedge
plain osprey
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maybe im js not as

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thoughtful

twilit coyote
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why am i so dumb and i cant understand anything

plain osprey
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cause yes

feral sedge
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since the discussion here is a mess. it's not ur fault

twilit coyote
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reuz

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true*

west iron
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So it's probably not his fault he can't follow

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oeis is an online encyclopedia of integer sequences

floral apex
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i guess i figured theyd have googled it i'm not super together tonight the obvious thing to do would be just explain, thats my bad

twilit coyote
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no

twilit coyote
west iron
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yes

floral apex
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it is

twilit coyote
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but

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i am supposed to show my work

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am i gotta link a site in my

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proof

west iron
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yeah oeis probably not the way to do this

plain osprey
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do that

floral apex
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you do what the other people are suggesting

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this is something youd do when you need the answer for some other reason

plain osprey
west iron
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shouldn't it be -1 and not +1

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in the denom

plain osprey
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did i say +1

west iron
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yes

plain osprey
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uh

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let me recheck

plain osprey
west iron
plain osprey
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its what my school does

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and wants us to do

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its also a method

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lets see

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+1 doesnt work

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yeah -1 probably

twilit coyote
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do i js follow ur method

plain osprey
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did u understand tho

twilit coyote
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eh

west iron
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my intuition is that the sequence harmonically converges

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checking fixed points shows it would have to converge to 1

near eagle
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i think it does

west iron
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so subtract one and now it converges harmonically to 0

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take the reciprocal and now it's an AP

plain osprey
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basically what i said

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but shittier

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and also with random algebra

west iron
plain osprey
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no i was

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mb

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i was referring to mine

west iron
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Ah

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I see

plain osprey
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i sincerely apologize

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lmao

west iron
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np lol

twilit coyote
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hahah

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funny thing guys

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i

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i

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heh

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what were yall talking abt rn

plain osprey
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ur cooked

west iron
twilit coyote
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😭

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ill js

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find smt else

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west iron
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rip

plain osprey
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we did all we could man

near eagle
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i think it converges to 2

plain osprey
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we provided algebra

near eagle
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:/

plain osprey
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we even pulled calculus

west iron
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It would be weird to converge to something that isn't a fixed point

near eagle
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yeah

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what was the closed form again?

plain osprey
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@twilit coyote if u want the answer tho based on what i did

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uh

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am i allowed to tell him

west iron
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Idk I won't tell

plain osprey
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i got struck by a certain 77^2 guy after i answered for smn

near eagle
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how do you aproach this type of problems

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?

plain osprey
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ill dm ya

near eagle
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thnks

plain osprey
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nvm i cant

near eagle
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why?

plain osprey
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friend first

near eagle
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done

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what have you tried?

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for part c

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do you know what a left hand riemann sum with dx=1 means

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@grave haven

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i was typing at the same time as you 😭 where could you possibly have gone

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floral apex
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sure

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but you can write x_i better

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theyre evenly spaced right

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whats x_0?

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whats n?

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oky

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that doesnt answer the question though catthink

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whats x_0?

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these should go what, x0, x1, x2, ...

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and theyre evenly space

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I guess, maybe you could explain how early into this you get stuck, don't let me drag you along

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unless you are stuck now

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you have a sequence in your sum

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I'm asking you to define it

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I'm telling you its arithmetic lets say

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$x_i = x_0 + i \cdot d$

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floral apex
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whats d? whats x_0?

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do you believe that this is the form for x_i?

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evenly spaced along some interval?

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okay

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Are you able to answer my questions? or what's giving you trouble

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this what?

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they're numbers

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Yea

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delta x is given right

floral apex
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but you have stuff written there you havent defined

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you need to define n

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and you need to define x_i

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then, everything in your answer is just a number

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instead of some general form

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I'll be honest you're racing the clock against my sleeping pill @grave haven

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Is there any way you can decrease the latency a little here

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what's wrong with my domain?

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sharp coral
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the domain of the inverse function is the same as the range of the original function

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ahh

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so [3, inf)

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Please solve Q8.

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subtle minnow
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The answer k=2

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Please explain how they got this answer

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mystic patio
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what have u tried

subtle minnow
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Firstly I don’t understand how it has 3 solutions

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Then put t= mod of x-2

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And made the equation quadratic in terms of t

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Then I checked the solution.

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Well here’s the solution for you

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Please explain the solution

mystic patio
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that's quite neat of a solution

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have u tried writing the roots out in terms of K ?

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i think the root 0 would give u some possibilities and the root positive is your condition of k

subtle minnow
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No idea

mystic patio
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delta

subtle minnow
mystic patio
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really? lemme try 1 min

subtle minnow
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Got it!!!

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We made the equation quadratic in terms of t

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And t is mod x-2

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Thus mod of x-2 has 2 solutions

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Which means x has 4 solutions in total

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Now, for 3 distinct solutions for x

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2 values of x must be equal

mystic patio
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that's right but how do we solve for k

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I thought u got that already Xd

subtle minnow
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That’s not the difficult part

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For what value of mod do we get equal solutions

mystic patio
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0

subtle minnow
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Mod = 0 right?

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Yeah

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So one root of t=0

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Now f(0)

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=0

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-2k+4=0

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K is 2

mystic patio
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ah haha

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i was finding x using the delta

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that's nice

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grats

subtle minnow
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Yeah

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But one case im still getting confused with

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Let’s say the equation in t has two roots t1 and t2

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Each t1 and t2 will give 2 values of x

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Let’s say t1 gives x1 and x2 and t2 gives x3 and x4

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So for 3 distinct solns 2 of the xs must be equal

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Why can only x1 = x2 or x3=x4

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Why can’t it be x1=x3 and we’d still get 3 solutions

mystic patio
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cause t1/2 don't always give 2 xs

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t = 0 only gives 1 x

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and since u proved that one of the t has to be zero

mystic patio
subtle minnow
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Also is this true that mod gives equal roots only when it is equal to 0?

mystic patio
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mod of a linear equation ye

subtle minnow
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Ok thanks

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That’s the entire question

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It was only tricky

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Almost all the questions here have some trick behind them and they don’t even require bulky solutions

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Will it be k=2 always

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Even for the other non zero root of t?

mystic patio
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oh hold up

mystic patio
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K would have to be 2 cause f(t=0)=0 is not a possibility but a true equation

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k would change if it is either f(t=0)=0 or f(t=other t)=0

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but in your case, both have to happen at the same time

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twilit field
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I feel like I've screwed up big time here (Y/N)

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The stray -2 in the z -column is going to cause problems IMO

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ooh

modern sapphire
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the stray is 3

twilit field
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I can fairly easily eliminate the -1 and 3

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got it

modern sapphire
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you just need to reduce -2 to 1

twilit field
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I multiply R_1 by -3/4.5 and add it to R_3

modern sapphire
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yeah

twilit field
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Okay, got it.

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Oops

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really stupid question

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thanks

modern sapphire
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Also, why not follow the algorithmic process? Like from leftmost column to rightmost?
That leaves less chances to be confused

twilit field
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The guassian algorithm that is?

modern sapphire
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Yeah

twilit field
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That's the next section in my book

modern sapphire
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Ohh

twilit field
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I think the aim is to motivate a need for the guassian algorithm via such examples

modern sapphire
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but yeah, if you convert it to upper triangular or any triangular, it makes the process more mechanical and you get easier time doing it

twilit field
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Yeah, I'll probably do that soon.

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Like this weekend

modern sapphire
twilit field
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Does this look about right?

modern sapphire
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seems alright

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But I wouldnt rely on me. Just verify with any random online calcs

hard shard
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my god

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simplify and make things consistent lmao

twilit field
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,w solve 2x+y+z=-1;x+2y+z=0;3x-2z=5

hard shard
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also btw you only need to make it upper triangular

twilit field
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Well, I've messed up somewhere

modern sapphire
hard shard
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step 3

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you forgot to add 2.5

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to the right column

hard shard
twilit field
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Oh shoot

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Thanks

modern sapphire
hard shard
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im having a stroke reading fractions of decimals

twilit field
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Eh, I'll leave it for now. I got the concept right.

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Or is that a bad idea?

hard shard
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dont build bad habits now

hollow oyster
twilit field
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Is this better?

twilit field
hollow oyster
twilit field
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Have a tutorial on sets tomorrow

hollow oyster
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i see ,wait what tutorial?

twilit field
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On notation for sets

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roster and set builder form

hollow oyster
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iirc dont you know that already

twilit field
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I do

hollow oyster
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well enjoy your classes

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also are you getting along with your classmates

twilit field
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Right so far?

twilit field
hollow oyster
twilit field
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Does this look fine? The solutions seem to check out

hard shard
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still lacks consistency

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math checks out according to wolfy up there

twilit field
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I'll work on improving my consitancy

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*consistancy

modern sapphire
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Now make the left hand side identity matrix (I wanna see 0.5/4.5 on right hyperhonk )

runic hamlet
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dont use mixed fractions

twilit field
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sorry

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thanks everyone

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twilit field
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Chat could any of y'all give me some questions similar to question 50?

twilit field
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Or even similar to 49

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