Option to disable the ability for people to see your bought/sold auctions on coflnet

[wheat peak]

ie, the manipulation

[charred ether]

I doubt that as I haven't found any of my finders surfacing that for 5m to higher flip

[wheat peak]

#🐛bug-report message

[icy sluice]

Its a drop from blaze slayer that is useless, it being worth 10m makes 0 sense

[wheat peak]

oh fun buyer

[charred ether]

which are ignored for the flip finders, I go off sales like this https://sky.coflnet.com/auction/7201b69dc1a544cd8785df5d60590ff9

[wheat peak]

thats a tier 3 rune

[charred ether]

that rune is not listed as being valuable so all levels are one median

[sly sparrow]

hey the recombed shelmets are back too

[charred ether]

are they recombobulated?

[wheat peak]

ah well then that's probably part of the issue

yes, the shlmets are recombed

[icy sluice]

Yes
Default rarity is rare these are epic

Well craft cost is 5m but that doesnt mean they are worth 5m
Having a recombed shelmet doesnt make change anything

[charred ether]

well then the craft cost is worth more than 5m

doesn't mean it makes much sense

[wheat peak]

yeah be realistically no one is paying more for it

those references/targets only exist bc they were sold for hundreds of millions

[sly sparrow]

and it's still an objectively worthless item that only has price references due to manip

[wheat peak]

^

[charred ether]

how about limiting any single modifer - like recomb or enchant - to at most the item clean value?

so chimera II on a wooden sword would be ~5k

[wheat peak]

well that would cause problems for items that do gain value from a single recom

like talismans for example

which are a very common flip

[charred ether]

so that rune is worth more than 1m at every tier?

[wheat peak]

t1 is around 500k normally

currently the sales/targets are messed up due to the manipulation

to be fair some of that can be blamed on bm

[charred ether]

the median for the item is currently at 1.6m

[wheat peak]

i see

isnt snipe supposed to be limited to a % over median?

or is it a % under active lbin

1.6 is fine enough as the median though

[charred ether]

it might have just gone down from the flip you showed

[wheat peak]

ah

ok well we definitely managed to get off topic from the suggestion 😅

[charred ether]

yeah the anti manipulation is kicking in

[wheat peak]

nice

[charred ether]

the volume based I should add, it takes a few sales for it to switch to lower estimations

spliting the rune into its levels would maybe help

[wheat peak]

could you give a brief explanation of how volatility works

[charred ether]

how about runes always being split into their levels?

[wheat peak]

like would blacklisting a high volatility be a viable thing to stop the manips if they do happen?

[wheat peak]

would maybe cause some issues with the super cheap ones since they would technically be new items that im sure all the upvoters will attempt to manip as soon as u do lol

[icy sluice]

Some runes are worth more in diff levels such as music runes which are rare from fishing, and then u have lava runes which drop from any runic drops who arent worth anything at all levels because they are so common

Fiery burst lays in the middle of these, while they are a rare drop from blaze slayer, there are alot of drops since blaze slayer is good for making money and people do it alot

[sly sparrow]

also that a t3 rune can swing from being worth about 25 t1s to only 9 t1s

[wheat peak]

i believe there are 0 valuable runes under epic base rarity if that helps at all

[spring tendon]

If this is the case won't this feature just drive traffic to competition

[icy sluice]

Yo no way joe biden is here

[spring tendon]

Joe Biden on slow mode, also I didn't realize y'all was talking about runes now F

[charred ether]

it builds 2 additional medians, second-short term, and oldest
next to long term (last ~60 sales) and short term (last 3-5 sales)
They are averaged and normalized. Ie. no matter the price of the item the volatility is compareable in % terms
Then they are squared and the difference to the average is summed up. This is done so further movement form the average is a bigger effect.
Then the result is reduced again to fit within 0-120
The description on the filter gives you an example of what difference results in what volatility
here are all the tests for it: https://github.com/Coflnet/SkySniper/blob/implementation/Services/SniperService.Tests.cs#L2090 a b and c are price movements and expected is the expected volatility that can be filtered

[charred ether]

each lower level is capt at the higher level, the higher level could in theory be manipulated but I can also cap that at its craft cost - from lower level - if you are worried about that happening and nobody else crafting one

[wheat peak]

its easy to do its probably worth capping

[spring tendon]

So like It just checks the interquartile spread of the data

[charred ether]

do music runes drop on higher level than 1?

[icy sluice]

How would u calculate craft cost when its random?

Reply: no

[wheat peak]

no

[charred ether]

does, means that can be ignored 😄

[charred ether]

such as?

[icy sluice]

Basically every "standard" rune is worth nothing except music

[spring tendon]

I have no clue who the competition is, kunuck said there were other sites that u can use to bypass the block

So I thought that in that case, feature would incentive use of competition

[charred ether]

sine my rune filter revamp yes
https://github.com/Coflnet/SkySniper/issues/173

[charred ether]

mostly yes but people might not know those technical terms

[spring tendon]

F for highschool mafs

[wheat peak]

thats mostly only covered in stats to be fair

which usually isnt required

[charred ether]

referring to the higher level.
The assumption is that level 1 can't be manipulated because it has to much volume.
Then how can lvl 2 and 3 be prevented from being manipulated although they have less volume.
-> cap them at 3.5x of the lower level

[wheat peak]

ok well thanks for the explanations and responses, i go bed now

[charred ether]

it costs me a few MB to store each level of every rune instead of combining it, so the chance to split away the expensive lvl 3 from the lvl 1 so not to overvalue the lvl 1 is probably worth it

[charred ether]

good night 🙂

[spring tendon]

Valuing runes and rune crafting is odd cuz there's a chance of loss involved in them, like generally it's 35% succeed 65% fail and u lose one of the runes if u fail.

[sly sparrow]

the rates are known and it's not super hard to extrapolate value based on the probability, which is how prices typically fall anyway

[wheat peak]

one last thing, i would recommend exntending thsi to barn skins as well #📝dev-log message

[spring tendon]

No cuz then there's also the value of time and lazyness involved which normal items have too and it becomes a lot to take into account

[wheat peak]

id: "AUTUMN_HUT_BARN_SKIN",

seems to be currently havign the problem with diff rarity being counted as a diff item

[charred ether]

it is by deefault, the issue was that it was excluding PET

[wheat peak]

oh hm

[charred ether]

I suspect its mostly tfm surfacing weird things currently

[wheat peak]

https://sky.coflnet.com/auction/83ac22db745b41988521b261e62851bb this had an 80m target

[charred ether]

which I am not sure should be changed because TFM is meant to behave the same as it did last year

[wheat peak]

worth about 17m

[charred ether]

that looks like the flipper

[wheat peak]

which is certainly from this

[charred ether]

yes target 83809523

[spring tendon]

Oh yeah did u figure out the crochet tiger stuff? It didn't even have manips on it and was still flying in price

[wheat peak]

i assume barn skins wouldnt be in unapp pet skins category? if not i suggest a barn skin item category 😄

[charred ether]

good question, checking

[spring tendon]

What I did is just bl using "item name contains" and caught all skins with 1 shot

[charred ether]

"category": "COSMETIC"

[wheat peak]

ah

[charred ether]

that is what helmet skins are also in I think

[wheat peak]

yes i believe so

[charred ether]

thats a category set by hypixel, pet skins are also in there but I separated them out because you might want to select them separately

[wheat peak]

yeah i just did this anyways

[charred ether]

most straight forward yes

[spring tendon]

I'd say do this for all skins and runes etc, cuz none of those should be recombed, or maybe it would be easier to black list all recombs and whitelist specific ones that make sense

[wheat peak]

well skins wont be affected anymore

runes yeah prob

[wheat peak]

i think this category could also have base and rarity upgrades merged

should*

[icy sluice]

What category are dyes under?

[charred ether]

you mean https://sky.coflnet.com/item/DYE_PURE_BLACK?range=day ?

[icy sluice]

Think this would also make sense for dyes if they are under a different category

Yes these dyes

Ye i think the recombed price should be the same as the non recombed price since i can see holly dye easily being manipulated if its recombed

[charred ether]

in filters they are in the category ArmorDye

[uncut garden]

Then at least do it this way

[jade spire]

this literally has -6 upvotes rn, almost half of them from staff, why add it?

[cedar epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/dolla-spongebob-money-gif-5621823

[charred ether]

+more people using up CoflCoins
-people not using up CoflCoins don't see history of people that do

not sure who established the down-vote principle or how that would affect people using that feature

[jade spire]

as many people said, this would get like 10 users max, I don't think 18k cofl coins is worth adding this when clearly many ppl dislike it

[jade spire]

well that's mostly how suggestions work, you either downote or upvote whether you like it or not

[charred ether]

200€/month would pay relatively quickly for that feature actually, half a year

[spring tendon]

I thought 18k cofl coins was like 80 euro

[charred ether]

depends on how high quantities you purchase them. but yeah, its probably lower

[crude forge]

If this gets added

1. Are they hidden from /cofl lb?
   2.are they hidden from the API?
   3.what will show up if I click on their sale when looking at an item?
   4.How will I know what to blacklist? Currently I just check what people like Kunuck buy and blacklist it

[swift flame]

with /cl bl add forceblacklist=true seller=ign you can blacklist sellers. (replace ign with the sellers name)

[jade spire]

how does this bring in 500e/month? I thought it would be a one time purchase

and that would be like 80 euros

[spring tendon]

I think the feature would be gud if cofl was the only one with access to the API but it's not.
Most likely, someone else will make a bot to show what's hidden, and those who pay to hide will end up becoming more of a target for ppl snooping then they are now, so they will stop paying for the feature.
I know some of the ppl advocating for it are banking on the fact that this doesn't happen, but i think it will.

Not inherently a bad thing to grab some money even if the flow does stop but it has the potential to cause more problems than it's worth for cofl and for the users of the feature.

Another factor is the ppl chosing to hide are most likely doing it out of malice towards other cofl users, obviously there may be exceptions but that's what the community thinks. Especially when most of the supporters already skimmed a few billion off of us and only got caught because their history was public.

[plush fox]

Is there any safe guard to manipulation in the works? Couldn’t it be like an item has a safe limit.

[spring tendon]

Dawg not the right channel and there's a lot more than that rn. U can use the volatility filter to set ur own safe limits.

[plush fox]

Yeah mb just salty, I’ll take it elsewhere

[plush fox]

Also I agree with this, I see no practicality to make history private, to many problems could arise for users, but from akwav pov more 🤑🤑 which is fair enough in its own sense.

[charred ether]

1. no
2. from /api/player/xy/bids and /api/player/xy/auctions yes - that is the change
3. Don't quite understand, no change
4. Why do you blacklist random items somebody buys?

[charred ether]

no, would require you to have prem+

[plush fox]

You blacklist mass bought items known manipulators mass buy, since they will then use these items to dunk on you. Essentially your just blacklisting the item before they manipulate it

[charred ether]

if you know the manipulator why don't you blacklist him

that sounds very tedious, shouldn't that be automated?

[plush fox]

It’s not one person, so you may not know all the manipulators involved, thus you still get dunked on. They manipulate in groups of like 8 or smth or more

[charred ether]

don't show me any item that x bought in the last day

besides the point that no matter what they do it shouldn't show up. Thats kinda my job for the flipping service, what you pay for and what I do first in a day before breakfeast or drinking

[plush fox]

Yeah I get that and I’m sure you are preventing a lot, but the community is prolly down billions, personally I’m down close to a billion.

[charred ether]

why is there no message from you in #🐛bug-report then?

you get the equivalent of 2 weeks of prem+ for reporting a flip miss-valuation first, *in an understandable/reproducable way

[plush fox]

Ok yeah I didn’t know that was a thing, I will keep that in mind. But usually I just blacklist the items, and all users involved.

[charred ether]

thought about that but reasoned there would just be different accounts used so it makes little sense blacklisting induvidual (alt) accounts

[plush fox]

Problem is since I use a paid config, they may not have all the blacklisted items/users so when I update the cfg I usually get screwed. It’s basically a skill issue for me that I don’t just make my own.

[charred ether]

there is a suggestion for that, to mark some entries that will stay when another config is loaded

[plush fox]

Yeah saw that

At the end of the day it’s block game so can’t be too mad, I’ll just let y’all do your thing

[jade spire]

oh, then it would bring in basically nothing, cuz all the users interested in this have prem+ already

also, if the only requirement is prem+ then more users would use this "for fun" or just to test it out

[jade spire]

multiple ppl and alts

[charred ether]

I don't think the two emails I received from people not in this server have prem+ already

[jade spire]

what two emails?

[charred ether]

random people wanting to hide their history

considering the overall amount of support emails received a lot of people are interested in it that probably don't have prem+

[jade spire]

oh then probably irlers

and I severely doubt they'd want to constantly pay 8 euros per week to hide it

like they want this feature, but not that badly to pay 8 euros a week

[crude forge]

Because they sell the item to others who then resell it

[charred ether]

do you know how the anti manipulation system(s) work?

How about we change the terms so manipulators are blacklisted from (hiding their history)?

[little imp]

Idc, they will probably still happen, hiding our ah would only prevent random people from figuring out what to do. It wouldn’t affect us much

[jade spire]

doesn't seem like it worked well

now maybe

[jade spire]

that would work

but still would kinda go against the idea of cofl providing all data to everyone

[little imp]

Macroing was against the whole point of cofl, people still do it

[jade spire]

no?

where is that said lol

[little imp]

Akwav never wanted macroing to be apart of cofl, it just got so bad that he couldn’t do anything about it

Also as you said, providing data to everyone

[jade spire]

he knew very well that there will be macroers, as they existed even before cofl

[charred ether]

it does until somebody finds a bug, then I fix it. Considering binmaster still buys overvalued items I think I am rather successful

[charred ether]

I knew people snipe things off ah and purposfully made a flipper no sniper, just that most people wanted to pay me for building a sniper so I did

[jade spire]

yeah as I said, it didn't work well but now it seems like it's pretty good

[charred ether]

Was mostly a compoundig error with multiple causes.
I am not done with all measure against overvaluations, currently on furniture

[wheat peak]

And the people mentioned all already purchase prem+ regularly

So really it’s no extra coins spent

[jade spire]

..

[wheat peak]

Ah yeah did t read everything

[jade spire]

👍

[icy sluice]

Are u sure they would be interested in spending $8 a week just to hide their ah history tho?

[charred ether]

No but I also was certain that nobody would spend more than $5/month on a flipping service and here we are

[icy sluice]

From flipping you're atleast gaining money, i dont see what there could be gained from hiding ur ah history for $24 a month

[charred ether]

The original tier plan was to have different modules where the highest tier can use all and the lower has to choose, so you could choose between the flipper, flip tracking, advertising your auctions, some others or hiding your history

On prem

[icy sluice]

Yea but alot of people just dont care about the flipping part

Especially the investors and the collectors i talked about previously

[charred ether]

There were hours spent on discussing if and how often you could switch the modules

[charred ether]

They would only hide their history with premium

[icy sluice]

Thats still $8 a month tbh i dont see many new people paying that but i guess we have different visions

[charred ether]

Flips are limited in quantity, but selling hiding you auctions has no limit

[icy sluice]

You can always ask tbh, there are servers like collectors hub with a lot of skin investors etc, maybe u can ask for their opinion on if they would pay $8 a month for this service

[charred ether]

I would more expect them to want to filter the full au history for things

[icy sluice]

Wdym?

[charred ether]

That I would expect collectors to be interested in filtering all almost 5 years of auctions instead of just a month

700m auctions

[icy sluice]

Ohh like what core asked for before?

[charred ether]

It's asked for about as often as hiding the history

One hiding reason is so your friend doesn't see your amazing flips

From one of the email s

[icy sluice]

U can make a poll for this tbh, channel hasnt been used in some time
Just something along the lines of
"Would u be interested in spending around $8 a month for premium to hide you auction history"

[cedar epoch]

So we can hide being on lb? >:)

[icy sluice]

Or u can also ask collectors hub admins to make a poll there to ask about it but i am not sure
Its a big server with around 1500 members

Contacting the owners is pretty easy and they respond fairly quickly if ur interested

[charred ether]

The leaderboard is decoupled from that.
I think you are in fact only on the leaderboard when somebody requested your flips

[cedar epoch]

So if i hide my flips history, i will never be on there?

[charred ether]

I think half of it already exists just no way to call it, and probably some bugs

[charred ether]

Unless you look at them yourself yes

[cedar epoch]

This change might not be that bad afterall

[icy sluice]

What is "it" in this context? The history hiding?

[charred ether]

The item history querying

The hiding itself is 5 min of work, having a way to enable, disable and circumvent it for yourself is what's complicated

[distant dragon]

Chat how are we still talking abt this

[icy sluice]

I mean its a nice feauture but i see more people abusing this to hide suspicious shit than people who are actually using this to hide investments

[wanton island]

Make it so prem+ can see hidden ah users ?

[icy sluice]

Already been considered (somewhere up in chat idk)

[spring tendon]

Its a very self sabotaging feature tho, like if it gets too successfull it can ruin cofl or it stays a small amount of bread.

Maybe you could make it slotted? U could even auction off the slots idk

[wheat peak]

i mean everything has been considered atp 😭

[spring tendon]

Something like this might actually be a decent idea, Like allowing all prem and above users to hide their profile from just public. Would unlock a new market of customers who either just wanna hide there stuff or see other ppls stuff.

But i wouldnt put these features behind prem+ bc i doubt ppl are ready to fish out that kind of money for just visibility when that could be done for free with more effort.

[wanton island]

nah it should just be prem+

but also if you choose your ah to be hidden allow certain people to see it too, like friends and other people. or the opposite and hide it for certain people aswell

[jade spire]

this is just for manipulators 😭

(ppl who abuse cofl and it's users)

[wanton island]

even if people who manip use it, you can still see the manipulated item in chat... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spring tendon]

If u go on an item and auctions are hidden there, then yeah it is 100% for manipulators

[wanton island]

akwav said if you search up the item even if the player disabled their ah views then it'd still show if you go look for the item (i think)

[jade spire]

no

the item is shown there

[near bane]

Yay my namesake was used

[jade spire]

after it's too late lmao

and ppl who macro (most of cofl users) don't look at chat 24/7

[wanton island]

depends how good ur macro is ig

[jade spire]

how is the macro supposed to do anything?

[wanton island]

who is more likely to win an auction, baf or ct macro

[spring tendon]

I wouldnt say thats too bad tho, all i was worried about was that manipulators will transfer bread to alts and be hidden, but if we can spot their usernames on the manipulated items, start tracking them using a different service, then it shouldnt cause too much more of an issue.

[jade spire]

both

[crude forge]

What

That’s crazy

[wheat peak]

why do people keep saying this like it matters

i dont understand

[jade spire]

cause the same item shows up a lot of times

and yeah

[wheat peak]

they are the exact same thing 😭

[jade spire]

it doesn't matter lol

[wanton island]

lmfao they're not the same at all

[spring tendon]

nah baf has better ms cuz headless

[wheat peak]

how is ct better

[crude forge]

Yea fr

[wanton island]

baf has delay?? you should know that

[spring tendon]

Hol up, ct is better than baf?

[twin salmon]

baf =/= mineflayer

[crude forge]

What is the socket

Baf*

You can just make it use the non baf socket

[wheat peak]

you can also make ct use the baf socket

[wanton island]

why would ct macroers do that tho the point of it is to make as much coins as possible
also can you disable the slowmode or atleast turn it down a bit

[wheat peak]

the thing its coded in has nothing to do with that

[jade spire]

me when normal socket

[wheat peak]

thats the point of all macroing?

some people just prefer not headless

[spring tendon]

hes trying to make the point that the delay is not dependant on which one u use

[wheat peak]

only akwav can change it 😭

[jade spire]

fallback will be killed

btw

in like a week

[wheat peak]

how so

[jade spire]

well not 100% killed

[wheat peak]

but yeah baf can be edited (not very easily to be fair) to use normal socket

[jade spire]

captchas every 30 mins

[wheat peak]

would def just be easier to recode it

[jade spire]

and one on start

[wheat peak]

and ct can be made to use baf socket

[wheat peak]

ah

[spring tendon]

wait what is this about

[jade spire]

abt how ppl who macro will receive way more captchas

to make the fallback thing not be useable anymore

cuz its kinda delay bypassing

[spring tendon]

idk what the fallback thing even is 💀

[wheat peak]

start on normal socket until catpcha then go to baf

[crude forge]

Isn’t that the point of call macros

[wanton island]

why does baf use its own socket then (by default)

[wheat peak]

for relisting

and fully afk things

and no captchas

thats why u cant just simply switch baf code to normal socket bc a lot of it relies on information the socket sends as well as things u send to the scoket

[jade spire]

because that's the socket for macros

no captchas in return for added delay

[jade spire]

I love call macros!

[mellow sail]

I feel like this suggestion is to aid with manipulating

[charred ether]

I still see little issues in that since fixing my bugs

[wanton island]

if there were like 0 manips then i think this would be less of discussion lmao

[wheat peak]

Yes bc this thread wouldn’t even exist 😄

[crude forge]

Sorry my phone didn’t know the word cofl

[wheat peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-gif-24408204

[spring tendon]

but there were and the militant supporters of this suggestion are all the ppl who ran them.

Idk why yall are tryna spin this to be some like privacy thing, the intent behind this is so obvious.

U guys noticed that u was getting almost no sales and its bcz ppl spotted u buying and selling a flower pot for 500m before the median changed

we have caught their manips before they finished multiple times, and they dont have an infinite supply of alts + transfering money between alts is hard. If u look at their cofl while its still public u will see almost all of the manips on their accounts.

[mellow sail]

^

Caught multiple manips b4 hand cuz auction info is public

[wanton island]

Idk it seems cool, I also think I'd be nice but I do understand why people don't like it

[jade spire]

he's friends with the manipulators

it is

the whole point of this is manipulating

[charred ether]

You see a pattern where none is, barely anybody spots anything because most people aren't deeply invested in the tool

[wanton island]

I am friends with the manipulators but I do think it's a cool thing if it happens

[cedar epoch]

Thats just wrong, many people have been stalking auction history of people who are usually involved in manipulation every now and then to be prepared

[heavy gulch]

yep, but it isnt a good feature anyway tho, AH is public by Hypixel, it is not Cofl's job to try to obscure things, if u care about ur privacy then like play iron man and turn ur apis off

[willow sierra]

Doesn’t mineflayer have some input delay

So ct would probably be faster

[wheat peak]

Not to my knowledge

[spring tendon]

Its not mineflayer, its the different socket that macros use to connect to cofl which gives them access to macro features like auto listing which has more delay

[willow sierra]

I’m not talking about the socket

[gilded dagger]

you can use any socket using ct or mineflayer

which baf uses mineflayer

[spring tendon]

i dont think ur able to do macro commands without using macro socket

Mod would be disallowed on hypixel otherwise.

[gilded dagger]

well yeah these commands ur talking about simply dont work because that's a built in functionality of baf, the mineflayer program

the socket just sends it target prices and requests for the client's inventory

which if you dont use baf's implementation then it just doesnt function

it'll still request such things but ur client won't have the implementation of handling such requests so the socket just gets confused

but it still continues to work without that

The socket doesn't tell your client how to act, your client just recieves data and is asked to send data and handles such requests however you've already told it to

[spring tendon]

im pretty sure baf doesnt list on its own.
It uses cofls commands and gui to buy and list. Obv the gui is available on both sides

[gilded dagger]

well yeah... it takes the target price i just mentioned and lists the item

[spring tendon]

No like the functionality to list isnt built into baf itself. It uses the mod. To my knowledge

[gilded dagger]

yes it is

wdym "the mod"

baf is mineflayer, it doesnt use the mod

[spring tendon]

r u sure about that? from what i heard its built with the same mod adapted for mineflayer and uses the commands from the mod to do things like list. The mod has the capability to list items and baf just tells it to after each flip received.

I could be wrong, i havent looked into it myself but it makes sense aswell cuz the listing price is uaually not even the same target price given by the flip finder when the flip was purchased.

[gilded dagger]

do u know what a socket is

the mod is just the communicator between the socket and your client

the mod is completely irrelevent

the mod = baf

baf = mod

baf is the communicator between your client and the socket

the same as the mod

[gilded dagger]

the mod cannot list items or it would not be provided in #⬇︱mod-releases as that is literally a macro

[gilded dagger]

the socket is what provides every single price and item

the mod and baf r completely separate things

they are not related in the slightest

[charred ether]

Create a notification

[near bane]

My guy does not know what mineflayer is I think

[jade spire]

huh

[raw pewter]

1.3k msg 💀

[spring tendon]

Ah ok i understand now, i thought the way baf worked was that they adapted the mod to be usable with mineflayer rather than just make baf worlk like the mod.

[raw pewter]

-10 votes

[charred ether]

Baf has its own mod version with different format and some logic to send it listing recommendations for things in your inventory.

[spring tendon]

Oh wait so was a right then 💀

im lost now F

[charred ether]

No you were not, there is no mod in there.
There are different adapters supporting different mod versions and their features.
Eg 1.5.5 uses the BinGui adapter that sends the required info for TFM and Cofl GUIs

BAF has its own version on the socket, it doesn't get formatted messages but it does get "list item X for Y" because that is what BAF needs

[wanton island]

since baf is headless it needs extra code to tell it things

[spring tendon]

and the listing process is done by the program based on the information?
Ok yeah thats what i was confused about

But doesn't that mean it would still lose its functionality if it connects to normal socket

[charred ether]

Yes, I only send it prices for sellable things in the inventory. Unless sellinventory is called then I just try to find a price for all

[charred ether]

If you change the socket version to another one you will receive things your actual version may not understand (except you use lower version)

[spring tendon]

also another question, ppl are saying theres extra delay on the baf socket which makes it worse. Is that intentional to help manual flippers or is there another reason for it?

[charred ether]

There is intentional delay on some flips to reserve them so that normal mod users can get them

Part of the fairness system and a compromise

[spring tendon]

Fair enough ig, how bad is the delay tho?

[wanton island]

extremely bad, it's +10 seconds of delay

[jade spire]

?

what 😭

[wanton island]

sarcasm

[spring tendon]

Time to switch to binmaster 💀

[raw pewter]

bruh

[charred ether]

0.05s per 1m estimated profit, none below and less on things other service also find

[spring tendon]

That's actually quite a bit 💀
So we have like 0 chance of catching 10m flips if we aren't on CT

[charred ether]

if they are not generally obvious flips I would call it unlikely yes

flips are getting very obvious above 50m-100m profit or 10x

[distant dragon]

That’s why everyone complains about the baf socket

Or more like ct macroers

[jade spire]

that's why fallback will not be an option anymore

and all macros will be the same

well pretty much the same in terms of buy speed

[charred ether]

BAF is only supported to the extend to be better than other services. I still don't encourage using it.

[charred ether]

indeed, about an hour

[distant dragon]

Fallback to the baf socket for ct macroers?

[jade spire]

nice

[jade spire]

yeah

for all macroers

[distant dragon]

Interesting
And how was that work

[jade spire]

what

[distant dragon]

How will it not be an option

[jade spire]

you'll see in an hr

I think I've said it in this thread

[charred ether]

if you switch to the normal socket you will be asked for a captcha

[gilded dagger]

yeah like akwav said above me, people who use ct also use the baf socket because they'll get a captcha otherwise

baf loses captchas for a tradeoff of extra delay

so baf and ct is the same thing

except baf has the ability to autosell

unless you make autosell in your ct module

[jade spire]

ct times beds

they're not exactly the same thing

[spring tendon]

i mean edited baf can spam bed so i still wouldnt say its that much faster

[crude forge]

So does non edited baf

[spring tendon]

unless we consider tick delay, at perfect efficiency im pretty sure it can only spam 10 a second or smht

[crude forge]

It can only do 5

That’s why hypixel lets you do

That’s the reason timing exists

[gilded dagger]

ct is a method for programming

baf IS a program

how can u just compare more or less a programing language with a program

[jade spire]

and it clicks once lol

[jade spire]

ok ct macros

happy?

[spring tendon]

dont act like u dont know what we are talking about man. Its very obvious that we r using ct as a substitute for automated cofl mods coded with ct

[gilded dagger]

Well yes but how can you say "ct times beds" that makes no sense

[spring tendon]

"so baf and ct is the same thing"

[jade spire]

just because it's easier to type

and yeah

you said it yourself

[gilded dagger]

yes. Their cofl performance is the exact same as it uses the exact same socket to function

[jade spire]

that's not what we are talking abt rn

[gilded dagger]

which at the time the subject was socket

[gilded dagger]

😱

really!

[jade spire]

yes!

[gilded dagger]

now you are talking about the macros in each, baf is literally a program open for download, ct somebody needs to make it themselves

so how can u generalise every single person who makes a macro in ct

[jade spire]

..

there isn't that many ct macros

[gilded dagger]

bro what does that even mean

[jade spire]

??

[gilded dagger]

send them all in here

[jade spire]

what

[gilded dagger]

?

[jade spire]

?

[gilded dagger]

baf is a singular open source publicly available PROGRAM, how can you know of and have access to every single program built with chattriggers

[jade spire]

whatever

[jade spire]

how may you explain this sir?

[gilded dagger]

i dont know because these guys started talking about the baf socket

[gilded dagger]

Wht?

[jade spire]

and this?

[gilded dagger]

What about it

[jade spire]

you used the same keyword ct sir

maybe not all users fallback?

[gilded dagger]

We were comparing baf and ct, not baf and ct with cofl forge mod

if you are using ct without cofl then you are going to be using a socket

😱

[jade spire]

no we were comparing ct macros and baf 😭

[gilded dagger]

no?

[jade spire]

ct has nothing to do with cofl

[gilded dagger]

yes you began talking about ct as a macro

but during that conversation it was ct

[jade spire]

you literally talked about ct as a macro before me

[gilded dagger]

What

[jade spire]

ok so how is ct and baf the same?

one is a program to develop modules and one is a client for cofl

[spring tendon]

Most of us assumed with common sense that he means the most commonly used ct macro. Why are you trying to catch ppl on their words? This isn't a court room. ppl can use their brain in convos pls.

[gilded dagger]

I literally explained that, if you were comparing ct as a baf alternative then it's cofl performance is identical

[spring tendon]

wouldnt you compare ct and mineflayer in this scenario?

[jade spire]

I do not see how a program that's made for developing modules for minecraft has any cofl performance sir

[gilded dagger]

yes... mineflayer connects to the socket

therefore to compare them, we can say ct also connects to the socket

and in that scenario THEY ARE IDENTICAL

[gilded dagger]

bro do you realise u can connect to a socket with chattriggers

[spring tendon]

i know we arent talking about that anymroe, im saying u litterally did what ur calling out this bro for

[gilded dagger]

How

[jade spire]

yeah with a chattrigers module....

not just chattrigers lmao

[gilded dagger]

so?

[spring tendon]

honestly this argument isnt worth having with u. U already understood the point we r tryna explain to u and wont admit it. No point in continuing to talk.

[jade spire]

yeah

[gilded dagger]

u literally thought a socket could click inventory slots on your client

i dont think you have any idea what's going on

[jade spire]

so you see how just pointlessly arguing over words when we all know what it means is very stupid???

[spring tendon]

no i thougth that mineflayer ran with the mod and the mod clicked on inv slots and connected to socket. I was confused in that sense and it got cleared up.

[gilded dagger]

he began the comparison between ct and mineflayer(baf in this case) and so therefore began the assumption that the ct program also connects to the socket

[jade spire]

you began this argument with this

[gilded dagger]

bro what

[spring tendon]

no i was just refering to ct moduels for cofl as ct and the rest of the ppl here werent too dense to understand

[jade spire]

????

[spring tendon]

convo started here, we abreviated ct macro to just ct and everyone understood what it meant

[jade spire]

yup

but then you decided to nitpick on the word ct when I used it

[gilded dagger]

#1240434384759291977 message

yes then it involved socket

and socket in ct

[gilded dagger]

bro you are yapping, you are invisible

[jade spire]

what lmfao

that's not a very good argument 😭

[gilded dagger]

I am literally not even considering anything u said in any of my responses

you're an after the fact

[jade spire]

I love just trying to insult the other person when I very clearly lost the argument

are you 14?

[gilded dagger]

Who is insulting anybody

we are talking about a conversation before this

[jade spire]

what lmao

no one is talking about the conversation before this

[gilded dagger]

yeah we already estabalished that, you just keep yapping

[spring tendon]

*After thought
also you are HURT dawg. Get off discord itl be ok

[gilded dagger]

no, after the fact.

😄

[jade spire]

are you actually okay

[spring tendon]

this would make him an after thought

[gilded dagger]

yeah... when you two were talking it was about cts as an auction macro, which i added mentioning the socket which was previously mentioned to which u said "no we are talking about macros" and then joe biden cosplay cried about apparently NEVER talking about sockets

and then i showed that it was previously about ct as a cofl socket

and that is where we are now 🙂

[spring tendon]

when? "Cosplay cried" Lmao

[spring tendon]

never said we didnt talk about sockets, i was telling you that we were using 'ct' as an abriv for ct macros since the convo started

[gilded dagger]

okay and this is you quoting something from when the topic was sockets

[jade spire]

yes!!!

[spring tendon]

u complained about ais not using the right term and comparing baf (a program) to ct (a language) and i was calling out that u did the same thing, once again, never said we didnt talk about sockets.

[gilded dagger]

okay? and it evolved into ct as cofl, versus baf as cofl

[jade spire]

and coyu nitpicking on the word started the whole pointless argument

[gilded dagger]

as i showed you

not by me

[jade spire]

what???

[gilded dagger]

what

[jade spire]

not it didnt

please stop

[jade spire]

????

[gilded dagger]

.

[jade spire]

and how is that relevant here?

[spring tendon]

even at that point everyone but you was assuming ct meant ct macro, that would make more sense in the context too.

[wheat peak]

💀

Ppl who don’t understand what ct is should stop saying it like putting chattriggers in your mods folder = super duper cool ah macro

[jade spire]

...

[distant dragon]

When people say chat trigger they’re referring to macros coded in chat triggers

Which is what the leaderboard uses and typically those macros have the most features like timing beds, automatic fall back etc

[wheat peak]

I know 0 ct macros with fallback and baf literally has more features than most ct macros (baf also times beds) 😭

wdym "what the leaderboard uses"

[uncut garden]

HEY GUYS IF U DIDN'T KNOW IF U HAVE CHATTRIGGERS MOD INSTALLED IT MAKES UR COFL DELAY 0 BY DEFAULT!

ALSO X3000 FASTER THAN BAF CONFIRMED!

as proven beforehand by @gilded dagger :

ct.ct.ct lots of ct
delay ct.delay = 0
ct
return ct;

you guys really need to realize baf is faster than ct
in every way imaginable, one's headless and one's not

[distant dragon]

Majority of the leaderboard uses a macro programmed in ct or a macro other than baf or skyskipped

Also oven baf literally has a built in delay like .05s per million of profit of something like that

[uncut garden]

"Majority of the leaderboard uses a macro programmed or a macro other than baf or skyskipped"

where the fuck is this false information from?? why do you think this way??

2. then modify the code urself to use the alpha socket and have fun with captchas if that makes u stop crying
   " like .05s per million of profit of something like that" also incorrect btw

[distant dragon]

@uncut garden

Also I meant to say programmed in ct
I used a ct macro and was number one on lb 😭

[uncut garden]

mb about the .05 but that's miniscule

bro,
ct AND baf literally are the same language, baf is TS which gets converted into JS upon compilation.

also, proof?

[distant dragon]

The language isn’t what makes it faster, it’s the features and baf has a lot of unnecessary delay like the socket

[uncut garden]

@distant dragon this is code from baf:

async function useRegularPurchase(bot: MyBot) {
    bot.addListener('windowOpen', async window => {
        let title = getWindowTitle(window)
        if (title.toString().includes('BIN Auction View')) {
            await sleep(getConfigProperty('FLIP_ACTION_DELAY'))
            clickWindow(bot, 31)
        }
        if (title.toString().includes('Confirm Purchase')) {
            await sleep(getConfigProperty('FLIP_ACTION_DELAY'))
            clickWindow(bot, 11)
            bot.removeAllListeners('windowOpen')
            bot.state = null
            return
        }
    })
}

it creates a listener waiting for windows to open,
it then fetches the title of the window upon a window opening
if title matches bin auction view then sleep delay[delay can be 0]
then clicks on the nugget[slot]31

then also checks if title is confirm purchase, if it is click slot 11
then it cleans up after itself to not create memory leaks

in what way is CT different ???

ct is literally

if bin view open
click 31
else if confirm open
click 11

basically the same thing???

[distant dragon]

.05 per 1mill, so you’re at 150ms of delay at 3 mill profit, a chat macro not on baf socket wins like 80% of the time

[wheat peak]

so edit baf to not use baf socket?

why is this a problem with ct

[charred ether]

the first time, then you have 0.7 delay

[wheat peak]

what youre complainign about isnt ct macros

[uncut garden]

okay okay, how about you then recode baf yourself, get rid of all the features that require the AF socket and use the alpha socket instead?

@charred ether also PLEASE get rid of the slowmode 🙏

[wheat peak]

its default socket

[distant dragon]

Either way it makes a big enough difference to win
Yeah you can edit baf to use the normal socket, but most people don’t know how to do that and it requires a lot more than just changing the websocket link

I don’t know why I’m arguing tbh I’m just arguing to argue

[uncut garden]

@wheat peak how about we make a BAF that uses the alpha socket for this guy and for likeminded people

[distant dragon]

I already have it 😭

[uncut garden]

you enjoying the captchas?

[distant dragon]

I don’t flip anymore

[forest yoke]

why is this still active

[wheat peak]

u should release it so ppl stop complaining 😄

[uncut garden]

if no flip then why cry, or release it as this wonderful individual just said

[wheat peak]

abt "ct macroers"

[distant dragon]

I’m not crying, I just think you guys are misunderstanding what people are complaining about and I’m trying to explain it

[wheat peak]

no i think you guys are misunderstanding what youre complaining about

[uncut garden]

you have to realize the fact there's literally no difference between BAF and CT also whatever mrfuzzball said

[distant dragon]

Chat what have I complained about 😭

[wheat peak]

youre complaing abt ct macroers but what youre rly complaining abt is that baf uses normal socket and most ct macros dont

[distant dragon]

THERE IS
Default baf uses the baf websocket which has added delay, a chat trigger macro beats the baf macro almost every single time

[wheat peak]

the delay of baf socket?

[wheat peak]

NOT A CHAT TRIGGER MACRO

ANY MACRO USING NORMAL SOCKTE

[wheat peak]

.

[uncut garden]

EXACTLY AS WHAT WE SAID, YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT

[distant dragon]

Yes, you’re right, but a majority of macros are chat triggers that I know of

[distant dragon]

I’m not complaining I barely even use it, I’m just explaining what other people are complaining about
Because you don’t seem to understand

[uncut garden]

"chattrigger macros" can be modified to use the AF Socket just as BAF uses the AF Socket

as how BAF can be made to use the alpha socket, so can CT
is it this hard to understand

[distant dragon]

BAF requires quite a bit of modification for it to work
But yes you’re right, it is for sure possible, a large majority of people don’t have access to a version that does this tho

[uncut garden]

ok then why don't they blame themselves, it's their fault.
akwav, me, hannes, mrfuzzball, and whoever is related do not owe you guys anything

if you guys want to cry or complain about anything then do it about your own skill issue(s)

[distant dragon]

You’re right once again I don’t even know why I’m arguing

[forest yoke]

this is only because you stored flips of for like 2-3 weeks then sold all at once, no?

[distant dragon]

No, i only sold what I bought, and I couldn’t even sell everything of what i bought

You can go thru the webhook and check yourself if you’re in fires server

The goal was to flip as much as possible and see how much I can make in that time period alone @forest yoke

[uncut garden]

ok then give everyone you know that CT macro, go on if you wanna stand up for them this badly. be their hero

[distant dragon]

I didn’t make it 😭
That would be really rude if I did that

[uncut garden]

doesn't matter, still give them it. be their hero

fixed WHAT exactly, what problem is there with baf @distant dragon

[distant dragon]

There’s no point in this conversation

[uncut garden]

you're the one that doesn't have a point, not me 😐

[uncut garden]

also regarding this @distant dragon
if you come in contact with 'these people' tell them i'd be glad to make them a BAF that uses strictly the alpha socket,
but for payment in cofl coins for example

wait is that allowed @charred ether

if not cofl coins then some other way i guess

[charred ether]

I was more referring to you circumventing BAF delay

[uncut garden]

naturally it'd just be a normal macro
no relisting, no other AF essential features

just in mineflayer too, similar to what QF was

don't think there should be a problem

[obsidian monolith]

This is actually like the most downbad shit ever

[near bane]

1500 messages 😭

[heavy gulch]

1548th ❤

[willow sierra]

And 90% of the messages aren’t even about the actual suggestion

[cedar epoch]

well they were until akwav decided to shut down the entire thing and ignore the 25 people who hate the idea 😭

[charred ether]

suggestions don't have downvotes, you could make another suggestion to not add this instead where you an argue against it, this is a suggestion for it

[spring tendon]

I made the thread

[charred ether]

cool.
What if I told you that I have been hiding some accounts for about 20 months btw?

And that there are quite a few auctions missing from the public website

[spring tendon]

i would be surpised u just told that to everyone
and would ask for some context

[charred ether]

The request to hide ah history comes up about once every 3 months

[spring tendon]

what have u hidden them for. Like manipulators ah?

[crude forge]

Probably investors

[charred ether]

I don't get why you are so into manipulation issues, there still wasn't any manipulation that I didn't work against the a few hours after it got reported

also the argument that it harmd macroers is on the same level as it supporting manipulators

[spring tendon]

im into it because i get hit almost every time

[charred ether]

I support neither and work against them as much as possible

[charred ether]

and you really think stalking player ahs is what help you when something gets manipulated?

Are you aware of the fact that only one sample is used from each player? one player can not move the price estimation in a profitable way

[spring tendon]

I wouldnt say this is correct, because manipulators take advantage of exploits to makes its features inaccurate, meanwhile the macroers just use the featuers directly.

The main feature that ppl are paying for is that accurate pricing and cofls ability to give them legitimate flips. Manipulators make that feature not work.

Also yes stalking kunucks ah has allowed me to catch a lot of them before they finished

[charred ether]

also why the heck didn't you use the notification feature to stalk ahs

[spring tendon]

Yes, but i only need to see 1 auction of an item worth 10 coin going for 500 million to know hes trying smth

[spring tendon]

i didnt know it existed or what it does, i just check their ahs every once in a while. Especially while their active.

[charred ether]

If thats your only worry why don't we just blacklist manipulating accounts from hiding their history?

[charred ether]

bottom right button

[spring tendon]

I dont think we will always be able to accurately tell, they might move to alts, then we could find those alts through a manip that worked but wont be able to see their history up until the feature is deactivated from here.

Notif feature is cool i should use that haha.

but if u can bl manip accounts accurately than im all for it

i know now that cofl is gonna be much better at stopping manips when they happen, but it only takes a few order to go through for a large amount of money to be lost. And like they have done before they can always find ways around it.

[charred ether]

the first makes the experience worse for normal users and so does the second.

I can agree to that, hence I suggested blacklisting those accounts if they do it repeatedly, little interest in that arose.

would be solved by a blacklist

[crude forge]

Yes if manipulators get blacklisted then I think this suggestion is OK

[spring tendon]

My only concern here is that it cant be done accurately

[crude forge]

I have a list of current manipulators if you’d like

[charred ether]

it would require an account to be involved in manipulating first. But I was also told its hard to move enough coins to manipulate on another account so don't see it as a big issue.

[spring tendon]

Like red sand stone was a really big shot they took and that one was enough to wipe half my nw clean, similar thing with recombed runes, celeste leggins. Yes it will be hard and take time for them to organize everything but it is possible. im afraid cuz it only takes one proper shot to cause a very large amount of damage.

[crude forge]

    'YoureEarly', 'OrangeCrusher18', 'Versatilities', 'Blessah', 'MROOOOWL', 
    'VividDreams', 'IdkWhoWaterIs', 'KunuckL', 'KunuckW',  
    'ugotcuteankles', 'minerwarpro300', 'unotsadus_', ‘Iodinz’
]```are there more i sohuld add?

[spring tendon]

yes there are a few
i know ur missing the wessam account
There were a good amount more beyond this too

also i didnt know fire was one of the manipualtors

[icy sluice]

Iodinez

[charred ether]

Related question, if we assume that is hard to move coins to manipulate with, what argument speaks against ignoring their auctions in price comparisons?

[crude forge]

Eh /coopadd doesn’t take too much effort

[spring tendon]

Only argument here is that it only takes 1 shot

That argument tbh doesn't apply on this suggestion either because even without this being implemented a big shot can be taken. It's just that this would make it a whole lot easier for them.

But if u do black list their mains and make them not participate in price comparisons, I'm not against this.

[charred ether]

and you would remove the other account from the coop? all auctions have all coop members

[crude forge]

Oh

Never mind then

Yea it does take effort to move then

[charred ether]

only active/new auctions have them, not the sales but I would persist a flag somewhere from when its listed till its sold

[frank hornet]

This is awesome

[charred ether]

Cool that you have a javascript array of them 🙂

[crude forge]

What about it

Tbh I didn’t make it lol

Akwav I do see some issues

If there’s an instant sell that is too high then these accounts could abuse it forever

[charred ether]

who did then, are you just yoinking somebody elses stuff?

[crude forge]

Well no I made the list of accounts

And I helped make the program

[spring tendon]

what program

[crude forge]

This

[spring tendon]

where dat

how can i get this

[crude forge]

Private

[spring tendon]

F

[frank hornet]

Spidey bot

[obsidian monolith]

https://discord.com/channels/267680588666896385/1241346204386721812

[distant dragon]

Why is Drysalad on this?
Drysalad has never participated in a manipulation, check the history yourself

[crude forge]

Sorry, thought you did tbh

What account is it on then 🙃

[distant dragon]

Mroooowl
Which you already have on there

[crude forge]

Oh

It’s gone now

[charred ether]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[crude forge]

Yea Akwav maybe you shouldn’t go off that list tbh but I think it’s a good start

[spring tendon]

Ive got one

ugotcuteankles
KunuckW
YoureEarly
VividDreams
VividCreams
blessah
KunuckL
IdkWhoWaterIs
OrangeCrusher18
Versatilities
MROOOOWL
lvxlr
Wessem_pro_
OlsPooKyoNe
IodineZ
93xk
TheHanlun
thefartyguy
Feidis
BrownAtik
DraftWaffles
Trxkr
uNotSadUS_
minerwarpro300
joking_robin
King_Aura
Packet1337

These are just usernames I've seen from 2 groups of manipulators on all the manipulated items i have looked into

[crude forge]

Pretty sure that includes people that just resell

You have to look at the start

[spring tendon]

im looking at everyone who appears twice
Buying and selling to smn else who also appears twice in that way

Everyone on this list has appeared on more than 1 flip aswell, cuz i go on their cofl and check, im making sure and trying my best not to get ppl who r maybe just riding the wave or smth

[crude forge]

You gotta find the people who trade the items a ton at first

the 500M sales

[spring tendon]

which person on the list rn looks like they might not be one of them?

[latent arrow]

Like over half of them lol

Xmas_bagels😭😭😭

[crude forge]

Yea

[wheat peak]

uh he definitely does it

[crude forge]

Hello wurv

[wheat peak]

or at least sells them

[wheat peak]

hi

[swift flame]

https://tenor.com/view/hola-hallo-hello-penguins-wave-waving-gif-16163630

[latent arrow]

Nah he js hardcore macros and tries to get in anytime

[crude forge]

He sells them honestly blacklist them all in config but not from changing price for sure

[crude forge]

Tfm staff 😔

[wheat peak]

yeah ik

need dimez to get on dc and say that he was heartbroken i deleted his report ):

[wheat peak]

cute bot

[latent arrow]

What happen

[wheat peak]

just joking around in vc last night

[spring tendon]

Check his cofl bruv

[wheat peak]

and i was deleting his bug report when he tried to make it and putting his id

[latent arrow]

Ah

[latent arrow]

I can promise u over half those guys ain’t ever start one they js join in😭 but ig idm if u bl them

[spring tendon]

yall are buying from them, they are 100% involved in the manipulation proces

[latent arrow]

That rune was never manipped😭😭😭
They dk what they’re doing

[lyric plaza]

that's like saying i'm a maniper cuz i joined in on one

[wheat peak]

it was attempted

i believe

well obviously it was attempted

but yeah i dont think it worked

[crude forge]

Good job making it!!

[spring tendon]

more than 1, he has quite a few

[latent arrow]

Yuh but they dk how 😭💀

[crude forge]

It’s actually pretty accurate now ngl

[wheat peak]

yeah i mean the concept was good it just needed someone not lazy to fix the thing 😄

[latent arrow]

That’s god roll💀💀 do u play this game that’s a “flip”

[distant dragon]

I think manipulating is pretty dead now anyways

[crude forge]

I updated it again I’ll send it later

[lyric plaza]

henry what do i need for flipper role i feel so poverty

[wheat peak]

i mean 6 attempts all failed last night

what did u add

[crude forge]

Now it requires 2 people to flag

[wheat peak]

oh yeah

[spring tendon]

oh ignore that 1 but i saw him there like in 3 different ones that were legit manips

[wheat peak]

ill add the double add for same seller buyer

unless u alreadyd id that

[latent arrow]

Ok 1/2 failed cs akwav and the other failed cus one person is special

[crude forge]

I didn’t it’s pretty easy though just update count once

[distant dragon]

There were 6 attempts last night?

[wheat peak]

maybe exageration

but a lot

[latent arrow]

Only 2 happened 2 failed no 2 happened = 2 failed so 2 total

[crude forge]

So 4?

[distant dragon]

Can I see a list or nah
Hayden other ppl could’ve tried

[wheat peak]

perfume, wither leggings, end sword, bonzo staff

iirc

[latent arrow]

Oh word ya we did do more, I forgot was tired😭😭

[distant dragon]

Yeah that sounds right, two of them weren’t targeting cofl tho

[wheat peak]

yeah was very late 💀

[crude forge]

Oh end sword and bonzo were real?

[latent arrow]

Ya we moving on from cofl, all helps accepted if yall wanna help us💀💀💀💀

[crude forge]

You tried to manip cofl last night

[distant dragon]

It was so scuffed bro
End sword and bonzo was real but kinda a stupid idea and wasn’t targeting cofl

[latent arrow]

Not directly on half them

[twin salmon]

you guys are quite smart!

[wheat peak]

hey dimez

[latent arrow]

Thanks man

[wheat peak]

i need to be exonerated

[charred ether]

https://tenor.com/view/good-one-not-unamused-dont-gif-18223141

[little imp]

💀

[spring tendon]

wym u r moving on from cofl

[twin salmon]

@charred ether may @wheat peak be acquitted, it was a silly joke

[latent arrow]

#💬︱general message
We moved on sir

[wheat peak]

🐝 🇲

[crude forge]

Hooray wurv is mod

[spring tendon]

fair

[distant dragon]

beem

[wheat peak]

🎉

[charred ether]

well I fixed my bugs, would be confused if it didn't/still worked

[distant dragon]

Do you guys like cashews

[crude forge]

Eh

[latent arrow]

Lock in

[crude forge]

Used to

[spring tendon]

I thought bm still got price estims from cofl, they just didnt catch their flips from u guys

[crude forge]

Oh wait

Cashews

Yes I do

I was thinking pistachio

[distant dragon]

Pistachos are mid but cashews are fire
Akwav can we get rid of the slow mode

[charred ether]

what?

[spring tendon]

bro what r u on about pistachios goated

[crude forge]

Pistachos are good when something is like pistacho flavored

[little imp]

Nah, there’s some wired things with attributes on bm, trying to crack down on them

[lyric plaza]

salted peanuts on top

[latent arrow]

@dense frost

[distant dragon]

I haven’t had one in awhile
I love cashews and almonds tho

[latent arrow]

They need us

[lyric plaza]

😭

[spring tendon]

almonds r proper mid, cashews it depends

[distant dragon]

I love nuts

[spring tendon]

some spots sell cashews that will make u vomit, others u could eat for hours

[lyric plaza]

guys can i have flipper role and no more poverty 🙏🏽

[random copper]

Theres 2 things you have to make sure you have done

1. Make sure your verified on Coflnet (search your name at in the search bar at the top of the website https://sky.coflnet.com and then if you are not verified click 'You? Claim account.')
2. Make sure your discord account is linked to your hypixel account https://youtu.be/Gw1F7cYt_aQ?t=11

[spring tendon]

salted peanuts cant be spammed

[latent arrow]

What the hell

[spring tendon]

its like doritos

[distant dragon]

What

[spring tendon]

They taste nice but u cant have a lot, the taste dies

[distant dragon]

Cashews can be spammed

[latent arrow]

You love nuts

[spring tendon]

salted peanuts

[distant dragon]

My breakfast is cashews and strawberries and blue berries every morning

[lyric plaza]

salted peanuts can be spammed cashews lowk to creamy

[spring tendon]

im opposite to that

[latent arrow]

I eat raw eggs and cow liver

[distant dragon]

Lock in

[spring tendon]

salted peanuts feel like their cutting my mouth at one point, cashews demolish

im having breakfast rn its 9 pm

[distant dragon]

@crude forge opiniones

[latent arrow]

Opiniones

[wheat peak]

prem?

[lyric plaza]

i have prem+

[spring tendon]

bro actually got it

[distant dragon]

Spanish keyboard moment

[lyric plaza]

💙 @wheat peak

[latent arrow]

Lock in what the hell

[lyric plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/im-locked-in-mark-phillips-rdcworld1-im-focused-im-honed-in-gif-26500733

[latent arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/real-life-batman-gif-18344577568836981509

No way we can send them now it’s not just a link let’s go

[distant dragon]

Hayden should I get rust

[latent arrow]

I would say yes but it depends like idk how long these guys will play and rust solo is a shit show

[little imp]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-gif-5274024

[dense frost]

dude 25 downvotes holy

what happened here since i left

[spring tendon]

p diddy ragdolled his wife

[distant dragon]

I think the ppl who don’t want it care a lil more..

[dense frost]

very moderate take

[versed orchid]

;\

[mellow sail]

Now if manip becomes nonexistent then this wouldn't really be as bad a suggestion

[spring tendon]

-- The manipulators

[frank hornet]

nope i need the leaderboard and auctions for research

also that completely destroys the point of cofl

[mellow sail]

I am not a manipulator, in fact I said exclusively if manipulation becomes impossible, ONLY if it's impossible

[mellow sail]

#1240434384759291977 message

[spring tendon]

One of the guys who did manipulate said the same thing idk

[mellow sail]

.

[mellow sail]

.

You can check my ah history if you don't believe me

I may have attempted to ride the wave of some manipulations before but they didn't even work so