#Utilizing Player API
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pretty sure the "player auctions api" doesnt actually exist
it was just a name for pageflipper
i think a lot of users wont want this since it just means they'll get beat by the people that afk macro faster than them
im speaking for the majority
im not even playing rn
it would prob help me if it was added
big upvote 👍
I don't see a reason to not add this
however i doubt it would beat the normal api refresh of 60 seconds
it would
don't even need to request auctions
grab ign and use api to search for other auctions
from ign
how long would it be between ah list and the auction being able to be seen on that api
because then a lot of users lose the majority of their profits
cofl will just find more flips
i literally don't see a reason for akwav to not add this
more flips for the select few to get
the cofl delay system in question:
It doesn't matter if people lose one of their money making methods, cofl will find way more flips if it gets added
what matters is keeping the users happy
i would be pretty damn happy if cofl found more flips
the users want more flips 😊
cofl users are already buying all those
😊
the only difference is this will give them to the afkers
the delay system in question
not on beds
the captcha system in question
there is delay on beds
tbh this will just help the people that afk macro more than anyone else because then they dont even have to stalk ah's or anything
think we should give other people a chance aswell
just my opinion
some people actually play the game and check seller's AHs
and?
the captcha system in question:
not cofl users so why do we care @hasty saddle
💀 💀
they should have priority over the afkers
that priority is called the god damn captcha system
12 second delay if you dont solve it
that doesn't work very well
and the delay system
i didn't have prem+ for the past 5 days
if this gets added i think 3s+ delay should be possible
i don't see how that's relevant here
i just do captchas when i can do them
when i sleep i just leave them there
not very hard
and you still get stuff when sleeping, point is captchas dont stop afking
like a 100% decrease of the stuff i get though
it works fine imo
nah it would just be part of the normal pre api
prem+ gets once b ed is over, just like with rn
people buy if they think itsworth
what pricing does lore use
this would honestly be VERY good for a prem+ feature
just monopolize more of the flips
i heard it was stonks but i cant recall
we don't care if people that don't use cofl stalk peoples ah for flips
that reminds me
people will buy pre if this is added
i doubt it would be enough to revive pre
you dont care yes
and its people that use cofl
so imagine you were a prem+ user now
no one that doesn't use cofl stalks effecively
this would help me
but it doesnt help most people
really
well im sure they make much less then the cofl users
why does there have to be a whole argument about this
it actually does, surprisingly
it does
I don't see a single reason why this shouldn't be added
just means cofl has more value to give to their customers
who gives a fuck if bear and livid don't make 4b a week 😭
livid doesntp lay
Premium+ only tho
its just an example
it has more value to give to a select few
there is a macro delay
pre-sniping should become a cofl feature
yes
you can always join the "Select few" just get a macro bro
and a vps
not very difficult
not everyone wants to do that
and why are you making a "select few"
fair
look at the profit leaderboard for example
nevo pretty sure youre #1 in cofl lb this week
its clear who is winning the stuff
but there is one i swear i remember seeing a video of it
im #2 rn iirc
there's a select few
1sec
i thought #1 was some dead obvious irl trader
that trades with attributes
and this will just increase the difference between the select few and the average user
we don't do anything special really, but still let's not stride away from the topic. I don't see a single reason to not add this
im #3 yeah
look a bit above
^
do you not agree?
the average user will also get profit boosts
so I don't know what is your point really
more flips = more coins for everybody
eh idk about that
well yes there are reasons for that
Config
vps
macro
or 100ms after
just like the current system
pre users still get the stuff as beds
well it provides a big incentive to buy prem+
normal prem would be rare to find especially if this is added
Or make it a new plan, premium++ smh
to prem+ ofc
he probably would just add it to pre and give it to prem+ at a delay, but akwav if you read this please don't 🥺
ig it depends on how much the pre users would actually win
since people stalk
but there's also the fact that cofl finds a lot of stuff before api through player descriptions and stuff
it could then find other stuff from the sellers before api
very cool
so the pre users could get a bunch of stuff before the api updates in the first place
pretty complicated topic
a no-fail pass on the sun the moon the stars[17 minute almost 8* map] 🥲
circle clicker 3000
yeah it only gets a small percentage of the stuff
placebo i geuss
and he will see it faster
at a later time maybe
let this suggestion shine
for now
i don't even know half the people on cofl lb
probably godpot baiters
#1 is remo45 godpot baiter
most arent real profit
people crafting hypes and selling etc
crafting hypes with legitimately gained scrolls
lol
yes
yeah but the profit calc isnt right a lot of the time
mfw ban
blud is trying to take us down with him
i dont think pageflipping just hypes is even worth it rn
You just reminded me that refresh sniping doesnt ban
the days of lbin scrolled is long gone
go do then
not that hard to click blacklist seller
i mean i wouldn't call it stupid if you are new
then people would just never buy the first
Yes tax on 500 coins is expensive man
lol
they just dont know how it works yet
anyone pinged the akwav yet
@heady shadow yes
Calling @civic sundial
WHAT
you're calling him brotherman
i didnt mean to ping him 😭
GG
Lmfao
I made the bot kill itself
i am bored so i can give you a 25 minute run
master moder 6
hey not joking
imagine playing the game.. ew
well i am
huh i hear carries
I honestly think he shouldn’t do this because he doesn’t gain more customers from it…
hcaptcha legitimately makes me wanna cry
theres TWO pandas TWO animals
i CLICK ON BOTH
IT SAYS TRY AGAIN
Its the bottom one
give me a few minutes
tf?
hey man im asking you what that is
its a travel scroll to crystal hollows 👍
WYSI OMG
The world’s biggest profit
but like how much is that worth
I’m pretty sure obtaining it is a req to use it so probably nothing yk
Req being 750 comms done
Afaik
those have been selling for 30m+
cool
i think in chat it said 30mil
Why????
i saw it
Oh wait
@stoic hemlock join our convo american boy
Theres new Godflipper
Lemme send you new Godflipper
🙀
big brain
Fr (my pc is broken)
I can’t release the file on GitHub so I’m just not releasing it, its also not completely done
Lemme dm you the file neon
I’m working on the user finder shit
But lile
ur only now working on user?
user finder kinda weird ngl
getting pretty late into the game
No I just didnt work on it much before
I’m aware
@sick trench Check dm
Check again
Fr
free cookies
neon get on
what floor 😄
m4 takes ages no?
idk
also i dont think i can even join m6
you can’t
neon is on
ok we can do m4 after that
i can only join up to m5
you can only join m4
i can do m5 aswell
need m4 comp for m5
im good
you want this to happen
so i wont defend you
😋
now that i think abt it
api ratelimits might become an issue
assuming cofl is using 1 api key
It already is, I am checking player auctions when you buy a flip, any flip in fact, not just 10m
Both to update your purchases and to get potential other flips
If no pre API user is on the flips are forwarded to prem+ without delay (before the bed ends)
But then you don't get flips, do you?
im not a fan of this idea o.O my profit will go from 30m a day to 0 if this happens
how would people snipe divan pieces tho with little competition
This idea is basically already the case
has it always been implemented? or just recently
Gonna check if I messed up somewhere but I don't think I did
well pre sniping is still very effective
I think 2-3 weeks ago I corrected it
it should check the players auction repeatedly every like 6 seconds until 60 seconds passed by
I think he should leave it as is
cause mostly people wont list 4 flips in a second yk
now i get escrowed on everything
That was the rich keep getting richer and the poor stay poor
Capitalism
#📝dev-log message
On every 10m flip?
when i am on ratters ah
i get flips
How commonly do you see people listing multiple flips?
atleast like 2-3 times per day
Cause when I checked it was almost never
like i said its usually divan miners selling their whole divan set
for low prices
i also see people selling their recombed accessory bag
for non-recombed price
also pretty good profit
I guess I have some API quota left so gonna put towards checking every few million profit flips seller again if another source didn't already
api quota as in api keys?
Yes, as you might know that is limited
I am actually search for more hints of people listing new auctions
Depending on how many i can check all online players every minute 🙃
I thought hypixel would have removed those API keys by now
So didn't continue with that plan
a trial run with some throwaway api keys could help in deciding what you can and cant get away with
Even with 100 players I "only" have 6000 checks per minute that's lower than the Skyblock player count, still can't rely on brute force
I guess I need to check for patterns
bro what
are you pulling that number out of your ass?
Just take the api keys of cofl users
alot of cofl users would give their keys up willingly
but then again
how many cofl users can be on at once
Yes but hypixel disables them if you use multiple from the same ip
Use a ton of proxies then i guess 🤷♂️
Http proxies are?
ah i just got to what i was thinking
like most other mods just use the user as a proxy
Sounds like a waste of time to brute force and also isn't liked by hypixel
yea
The mod can already do that
nice
I mean I could narrow down who to request by looking at their Skyblock level couldn't I ?
Under level 60 would probably not have expensive items?
I mean you could also just not do it at all and give non macroers more profit from presniping
this would be a killer prem+ feature tho
yep!
Idk i feel like its a good idea but would kinda kill regular premium because macroers get access to automatic presniping for them
i mostly make my money from pre sniping
Then boom less flips for regular premium and also less flips for legits
And less money for people who invest their actual time
This is not how this works, I am adding every possible method to make coins
speaking of coin making
is the bz flipper still in development
i swear i heard of like
a bz flipper
I thought I would add bazaar tracking first but yes
cool
but like
with the amount of macroers
pre sniping is the only way non macroers that use cofl can make money
I am gonna bump the macro delay on those flips
sounds good
Actually now I am wondering, do you buy those auctions by hand?
i doubt it
no but like
Aaaaah
instead of afk macroing you just active macro
ratters and irlers can be under
But they would mostly be catched by them listing multiple things
What does appear offline do in this context
he can’t see all of the online players
He can catch the people that appear offline with 1 api refresh cant he?
If they list an auction
he was talking about checking every online player on sb
I don't want to spend another API call on checking that, I query their level once in a while and use the rest of my data to guess if they are online or not
we could just wait for hypixel to hand out high-limit api keys
As bait to list something for high price, by accident, to sell it fast, or if i’m a ratter
i usually instasell when i go under 200m purse
if you don’t know prices
or when i got chests full of shit
sell fast = i get coin fast
or in a ratter's mind,
sell fast = profile die faster
divan nons grossly undervalue their full perfect set sometimes
But to have an item with chambers they would probably have used it for a while and then decided to sell
ppl who are focused on mining dont rlly care about prices
they just want that funny yellow thing for stats
people in master mode have full master starred gear and no gem chambers
when the gems make a bigger difference than the stars
Red > gems
My dirt block is 9billion, and my hyperion is 4 coins
Dw
I’m a professional neu user
Pricing stuff is not as straight forward as it seems but that's another issue.
I am trying to figure out what causes you to create an auction.
Like one would be low purse want to buy something else - what could cause low purse all of the sudden
Another thing is I got another better item - would you say a drop causes you to sell your current item or that you bought a better item from ah
track people that sell sets and stuff
for example their 3/4 storm and wither gogs or full divan
because that indicates they're switching to something else
i would mostly just do expensive sets
if they bought a necron’s handle
they might sell their Midas staff
usually you would sell it before though
is there a way to track player names in bazaar
I can find that through just checking people that created two or more auctions.
My surveys so far concluded that most auctions are a one off thing
tracking ppl who buy scrolls would be cool
If the other side uses the cofl mod yes
Otherwise not really
i believe it doesnt atm alex
Aww
Not yet
Oooo
can’t it be faked
That means it will soon 🙏
Soon™️
._.
Actually I currently work on getting the price paid of trades to show in flip tracking
I’m could probably trick trade tracking too
That's even more complicated that I thought
also /cl trades is a bunch of stuff I never did
Wait trades factor in for the obtain on the flip tracker?
soon apparently
Possible yes, would be even interested in having a sample to filter for that
That's the plan
I meant to add “will” to that statement
i don’t think there’s a sample you can check to make it not work
Planning on “buying” my flips in trades for 1 coin then selling them
pretty much anything can be faked
Yep
then just bl coop trades
Irl trader
Donttt i want to get #1 first mang
Irl traders dont use trade menu
skyskipped does
WHAT?
Whats their method
So you trade it, sell it and then trade it back?
???? ???? ??????????? What why
I mean I was talking about faking it with a mod
i think he means like to forge trade flips
but sure that works
You trade it, trade it back, then sell it probably
Thats what i was thinking of
Huh, I will just deduct the item and take the last purchase price
I don’t think you can beat this
Also remove you from the leaderboard probably
No :cryfade:
Depends on what you do, the current plan is to check both parties inventories after the trade to check the item moved
what if they have api off?
So both parties have to have cofl?
Oh wait
You meant check api not ask the mod
Nvm
No, one has, and at least one has to have API on, if not that transaction is ignored in other systems like the flip tracking and leaderboard
no point in checking if one has api on
what if I fake the trade with chat msgs then chest the item
Trade away with api off, trade back buying for 1 coin with api on, then sell it to ah
1 -> 1.7b hype flip
check if the receiving player has api on then
and base decisions off of that
Did you just only trade 20m coins?
fake chat msgs with a mod
to show any item and coins
I can put coins somewhere else
too many factors in this jee
And the other person's purse did not change?
Bc you can check banks too
I can buyback something from npc
well if I really wanted to do this for some reason
they could put their coins somewhere
At that point why would you fake the trade
idk
false profit to sell my shitty config
oh yeah that
It's gonna be highlighted that it's not from ah
trade flips should have a big red text
yea
like tfm finder in the website it should be a warning
of some sort
there’s always gonna be someone that wants to fake it just to be on the leaderboard
Split flip tracker on website then so that ah net profit & overall flipping net profit are displayed separately
There are gonna be flags for each flip, if it's the same buyer as seller and if it's from trade or not, I currently don't think that anybody will take the time to actually insert wrong data and I first want to try finding that before I am switching the (main) leaderboard to ignore trades
The leaderboard system is built to support 10k scores per second
in the future looks like hypixel is sending out high limit api keys
for mods like neu that take in LOTS of data
We ask that mod developers start transitioning to a backend solution similar to other external tools that don't rely on the player-based keys and instead use a single API key for all requests for the mod, along with the required caching.
perhaps they could give one if they deem cofl as tos abiding
It is tos abiding dw
they won’t allow it
since cofl is for profit
doesn’t change the fact that they won’t like it
Already have a higher key, it's lower than I hoped for
dam
They really don't want to serve API calls
I have enough calls to check each listed auction but not random guessing
It gets put into a queue to be checked which can vary a bit but should start the check about 1-2s after the purchase.
That's 21s+ after the other auction was created and should be enough time for another listing to have been added
d a m n
Wdym?
Well it's required for all flips otherwise I run into the issue that your flip sells before the API update and the flip tracker could use the wrong purchase
neat
Reminder for @civic sundial
throw high profit seller names to auction checking
That’s why you have to remove cofl if you’re pageflipping 😭
yeah im definitely gonna pageflip 🔥
qfpf soontm