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[ashen spruce]

@sleek creek

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[sleek creek]

Ai is saying this is wrong

[south nexus]

Do you know the difference between = and ==?

[sleek creek]

Yeah

[south nexus]

You shouldn't need AI to tell you this. It's already underlined in the code

[sleek creek]

The error messages are hard to understand

[south nexus]

What does it say?

[sleek creek]

I’ll have to open my pc and check but to prevent me using ai for debugging

Would u explain me the different types of errors

[south nexus]

In the beginning, I would recommend asking here or googling if you have a specific error. Odds are, you're not the first person to run into that problem, and there's almost always an explanation of what went wrong

If there's a word in your error that you don't understand, then you can do a bit of research as well to try and learn what it means

you likely ran into a NameError in your code above

which is when you try and use a variable that has yet to be assigned

!e

print(x)

[ashen spruce]

:x: Your 3.14 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(x)
004 |           ^
005 | NameError: name 'x' is not defined

[sleek creek]

So whenever I get that error you’re telling about, I always need to check that case?

That applies to other Python errors too and its cases

Correct?

[south nexus]

you will eventually see them enough times that you become familiar and can debug it yourself without looking it up

"what the error means" and "why your code caused it" can be two different things to work out

NameError means you didn't assign a variable. You thought you did, so you need to understand that trying to use == here does not work to assign a variable

[nimble spoke]

Also, if you're new to python I recommend not using AI, it makes you think much less

[sleek creek]

I use it to teach me

[nimble spoke]

Not the best resource out there, I recommend checking out the resources here instead

[sleek creek]

It explains me the code

Then I try to do it myself

[nimble spoke]

!learn

[ashen spruce]

Go-to beginner resources

Here are the top free resources we recommend for people who are new to programming:

• Automate the Boring Stuff — an online book (also available to purchase as a physical book)
• Harvard’s CS50P course — video lectures (slides and notes provided) with exercises
• Python Programming MOOC 2026 course — text-based lessons with exercises
• Corey Schafer's YouTube playlist

For a full, curated list of educational resources we recommend, please see our resources page!

[nimble spoke]

I recommend using the Python progamming MOOC 2026

[nimble spoke]

That's the main issue, it removes the thinking part

[sleek creek]

It doesn’t if you learn and do the problems your self

[nimble spoke]

Well if you solve them yourself then sure, but you've been debugging using AI
And it will surely miss stuff when teaching you.

[sleek creek]

Because i use ai to save time when i tried the problem my self and i cannot do anything else

[nimble spoke]

Is it saving time tho?

In my opinion it's not

It's just another way to "cheat" your way into solving the problem

[sleek creek]

I guess that’s true

[nimble spoke]

From my experience, the best thing you can do is actually sit and "break your head" on these type of problems

because that's when you actually learn

[nimble spoke]

It's not that you can't do anything else, you just didn't try anything else

[sleek creek]

But if I do enough problems and when I do get stuck I could use ai to debug but I’ll still be able to increase my toolset

[nimble spoke]

Let me give you a scenario

Whenever you get stuck you use AI to debug

you keep on doing that

but then you stumble upon a problem that AI doesn't manage to solve

What will you do now?

All the "toolset" you know is using AI to solve the problems

[sleek creek]

My course is not advanced so it should be able to

Not very advanced

[nimble spoke]

That's not the point..

If you'll use AI now, you won't acquire the skills necessary for debugging bigger problems in the future.

[sleek creek]

So what should I be doing instead

[nimble spoke]

You mean, how do you solve problems when you're stuck?

[sleek creek]

Yes

[nimble spoke]

Well, you could start by googling your errors

In your case it would've solved it

Another thing you could do, is open the python documentation

Another thing is actually debugging and viewing what happens in the code

[sleek creek]

Fair point

@nimble spoke well can I send the task here I’m a bit stuck

[nimble spoke]

Sure

[sleek creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1505962967991058482/1505995495879737474/image.png?ex=6a11445a&is=6a0ff2da&hm=c851cf24a3f7fd838c28425c21949790fa369021c5cbe2555549748625204886&

I’m doing this task

[nimble spoke]

Where's your code?

It seems to be relying on other code

[sleek creek]

And I did this much but I don’t think everything is right yet

[nimble spoke]

Please send your code as text and not as images

you can wrap it in three ` from both sides to make it pretty

!code

[ashen spruce]

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[sleek creek]

👍

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/RNUQ

and the given data

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/62YA

[nimble spoke]

Where is the preferences form?

[sleek creek]

It should be in the code

[nimble spoke]

is it your_restaurants?

[sleek creek]

No

[sleek creek]

This is the server I’ve been working in

There is a form

[nimble spoke]

If it's not the your_restaurants endpoint then I can't seem to find it.

[nimble spoke]

It is your_restaurants...

[sleek creek]

Yes

That’s the filtered

[nimble spoke]

Here you said it's not it tho

Alright

[sleek creek]

Because u said form but that’s not a form

Its results page in other words

But yea

[nimble spoke]

Alright

Now that I understand, what's the issue?

I see you haven't printed the matching restaraunts

[sleek creek]

Essentially I wanna complete this task

[nimble spoke]

What's stopping you? Elaborate

[sleek creek]

Im tryna display the preferences on the route your_restaurants

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1507264142082441306/1507280379151646720/FEB13B01-C0C6-434D-A322-94E000C36CBC.png?ex=6a1153be&is=6a10023e&hm=acfa581000f7848420c0e1c2faa8ad44f63bce125244c47dc3e72df3b38151d2&

According to ai this is some how wrong

[nimble spoke]

Correct, Fashoomp already helped you with that didn't he?

Or did you not understand

[sleek creek]

He only asked if I know the difference between = and ==

and I know that

[nimble spoke]

Ok, so what's the differnece between them?

[sleek creek]

Just guide me how to complete this exercise and point my mistakes

[sleek creek]

One is

Assigning and the other is checking if the other is if they are equal

[nimble spoke]

Okay, and what did you use in the line price == False

[sleek creek]

If price is equal to false?

[nimble spoke]

Yep

[sleek creek]

Even with options = false?

Why didn’t u mention that

[nimble spoke]

Because here you use one = sign

it's assigning it false

which is a legitimate syntax

[sleek creek]

Ohhhh

then

what do I do next

[nimble spoke]

You continue the question?

[ashen spruce]

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