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[full kestrel]

hello im 5 mins old into codng. i am watchng a youtube video for some excersises and for some reason the run function is not allowing me to test my simple code. s someone free for a vdeo call to help me figure it out?

[flat relic]

@full kestrel

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[agile ravine]

i might be able to help you here over chat, but i don't do any voice or video calls of any kind

[full kestrel]

im fne to try but i dont know many terms or really how to describe what is going on

[agile ravine]

can you show the code that you are trying to run?

[flat relic]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[full kestrel]

ok one moment

[agile ravine]

or you could even post a screenshot to begin with in this instance (normally we prefer code to be posted as text, but when there is problems with how to run things a screenshot of what you are trying to do can sometimes be more helpful)

[full kestrel]

first = input("First: ")
second = input("Second: ")
sum = int(first) + int(second)
print(sum)

[flat relic]

Hey @full kestrel!

Please edit your message to use a code block

```py
print('Hello, world!')
```

This will result in the following:

print('Hello, world!')```

[full kestrel]

im watching a video by programmng with mosh and ths is the exact code he inputs but when i click run i get an error msg ill get the ss now

[agile ravine]

the code looks correct to me

[full kestrel]

is there somethng wrong on the ss

[open marten]

the code is correct

[full kestrel]

this is my very frst input and as im struggling to grasp it i hope i can contnue today before bed and not have to walk away for now

[dire elbow]

It's looking for an interpreter in a different folder than your current project

[full kestrel]

how do i fix. in kindergarten terms plz lol

[dire elbow]

"PycharmMiscProject" vs "Pycharm_New world"

Personally, I would not recommend using pycharm to begin with. It's a bit bloated for a beginner imo

[full kestrel]

bloated? meaning too much?

i opened a youtube video and did what he said to get my frst taste about an hour ago

[dire elbow]

Yeah, it does a lot behind the scenes, making it you don't understand what's going on

[agile ravine]

@full kestrel have you moved or renamed the directory for the project?

[dire elbow]

Also, if that's the first code they show, they already do something which is quite bad (overwrite sum function), so I wouldn't put too much faith into it

[open marten]

vscode is the best

[full kestrel]

no dea what that means

[dire elbow]

I can hop in a call if ya want and help you set up

Gimme a few mins tho if you want that

[celest surge]

Have you installed Python at all?
But yes, if PcCamel can help interactively that would be quicker.

[full kestrel]

hit your inbox

[full kestrel]

yes and im on pycharm via the video im mmicng

[dire elbow]

@full kestrel

You opened powershell and typed python --version right? What does it show?

[dire elbow]

Okay good, so python is installed correctly

Somewhere on your PC make a folder called something like "Code"

[full kestrel]

exit ps?

[dire elbow]

Yes

[full kestrel]

code" created

[dire elbow]

And make a new folder in there called something like first_project

[full kestrel]

done

[dire elbow]

Open vscode and select that folder:

[full kestrel]

done

[dire elbow]

You can open a new terminal with ctrl + `

Send a screenshot when you get there

[full kestrel]

ok

[dire elbow]

Not like that, you just opened powershell separately again

Click in vscode (make the window active), and then press ctrl + `

or

Again send a ss if you did that pls

[dire elbow]

Okay nice, you might want to make vscode fullscreen, it's pretty cramped right now

At the bottom you now see a terminal has hopened

This is basically also powershell

You can type python --version to try it out

[full kestrel]

Same result

[dire elbow]

For every python project, you want to make a virtual environment. You can do this with the following command:

python -m venv ./.venv

This makes a folder in your current directory (./) called .venv

[full kestrel]

That e book you sent is free on oceanofpdf

[dire elbow]

The book is free anyways. It's nice if you have an ereader, but you can view the entire book on https://automatetheboringstuff.com/

[dire elbow]

Is there a new folder now in the directory?

[full kestrel]

Weird when I clicked it said 2 different prices. I didn't scroll any either

[dire elbow]

Better to send a ss, difficult to see when you make a pic

[full kestrel]

seems so

[dire elbow]

Yeah perfect, so there is a .venv folder now. This folder will also contain python.exe

[dire elbow]

Now press ctrl + shift + p and type the following:

Click on the Python: select interpreter

Send me a ss of what it shows

[dire elbow]

Python: select interpreter

Can you find it?

[full kestrel]

i hit enter

[dire elbow]

Oh hmm, one sec

On the left, click the 4 squares

Then look up "Python"

Install that one

[full kestrel]

done

[dire elbow]

Alright, now go back to your files

[dire elbow]

And try this again

[dire elbow]

See the bottom one? That's in the .venv folder we just created

Select that one

Then make a new file in the folder called "tmp1.py` f.e.

(right click in the file explorer)

SS when done pls

[dire elbow]

Took that a bit too literally lol

tmp1.py

[full kestrel]

i have to as i know nothing rn lol

[dire elbow]

Yeah mb

Did you make tmp1.py?

[dire elbow]

Alright, type the following code:

print("Hello world!")

Then click on the run button:

And ss when done

[dire elbow]

Coolio, it works

So that's how you run a .py file.

Next time you want to continue coding you:

1. open vscode
2. open the folder

And then you are able to run code with the run button

[full kestrel]

i greatly appriciate your patence and clarity sir

[dire elbow]

Sure nws.

There's one more thing

In tutorials you will also find them wanting you to run python in "interactive" or "shell" mode

In the terminal section you can click on the + to open a new terminal

You will see it will add another terminal in the list on the right

And then simply type python

ss when done

If it works, you should see >> and you can type f.e. 1 + 2 then enter, and it will show 3

[full kestrel]

i believe it opened the agent

[dire elbow]

You can close the agent

The + in the image above

[full kestrel]

sweet got it

[dire elbow]

You were able to type the 1 + 2?

[full kestrel]

no ss incoming

alrght i t worked

[dire elbow]

Cool

when you type python in powershell, it opens python in interactive mode

If you see >> you are in "Python interactive" mode

You can type exit() to go back to powershell terminal

[dire elbow]

So you now know how to run python in two ways:
1) Interactive mode: open a terminal -> type python
2)run a python file: Create a .py file, click the run button (triangle)

That's it

Whatever book you use, they will use one of the two modes to run their code in whatever IDE they use (PyCharm, Vscode, w/e), and you can do that too now.

[full kestrel]

awesome. so now im back to the vdeos and book?

[dire elbow]

Jup. I would really recommend following a structured course like automate the boring stuff or some other course

Videos are nice for passive learning, but stuff won't stick when you watch someone else program

I know, because I've tried 😛

[full kestrel]

on it🫡

[dire elbow]

It's a noob trap

[full kestrel]

im the same way. thats why i was doing the same he was in the vdeo to follow along rather than try and retain

very grateful sir

[agile ravine]

no, it's not free, if you find it there it is an illegal copy of the book

[agile ravine]

no, it's not, it's only free in the html version on the authors own site, otherwise people needs to buy it if they want to keep things legal

[agile ravine]

it's better than not following along, but just following along isn't enough to really learn properly
if you want to learn for real you need to modify the code from the tutorial and learn what happens when you change the code in different ways, experiment with things, don't worry if you break it, then you get the chance to learn how to fix it and you'll learn much more from it

[grizzled moth]

Your screen is small or your UI is just super large???

[agile ravine]

@full kestrel the more code you write yourself without just retyping what someone else has written is what is really valuable
because programming is about problem solving and how to break down big problems to smaller and smaller problems until you can solve each one by themselves and then put everything together again
and don't use AI while you still learning, if you outsource the thinking you will not learn how to do it yourself

[full kestrel]

Idk it's on a pc

[full kestrel]

I completely agree

[flat relic]

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