🔒 Pip isn't recognized in the cmd prompt

[proud siren]

I'm not much of a coder, but I've been tinkering with local LLMs and Ollama lately. I wanted to test how good they were at coding, and I decided to use python as a test language since I know it's very popular, and I figured it would be nice to have it on my computer. Long story short, none of its code was working and I think its because it was trying to use a library called pygame, and it was having trouble installing it. I went to install it manually, which I'm apparently supposed to do using "pip install pygame" on the console. It didn't work, and I got this error message instead ("'pip' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."). I've been trying to fix this for a while now and I can't seem to figure it out, I think I need to add it to PATH or something (I'm not totally sure what that means), can anybody help me? Sorry in advance if I can't respond right away.

[umbral sun]

@proud siren

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[frigid inlet]

You want:

py -m pip install pygame

[azure belfry]

If using the latest python, pygame might not install. I suggest installing pygame-ce instead. It works the same as the old pygame but is better maintained and updated

[proud siren]

Thanks, I will try that. One question though, why am I seeing everywhere that the correct command is pip install pygame if it’s actually something else? That’s also probably what my ai was trying to do.

[frigid inlet]

Your AI?

[proud siren]

I said that I’m tinkering with ollama (locally run ai) and I was using python as a test language

Is the “py -m pip install pygame” a newer command or something?

[frigid inlet]

pip (when it's there) is traditionally the command to install into your default python.

For various reasons we always recommend:

python -m pip install whatever

(adjusting python suitably, eg py for you because you're on Windows).

First: that runs the pip for that specific python, and therefore installs where that python will find it. When you've got multiple pythons or venvs or whatever, that matters.

Second: these days the "system python" is a managed environment, often supplied by the OS or some vendor. You don['t want to install directly into that, might break things.

Usually you'd make a venv (a kind of personal python based of th system one) and install in there.

Plain pip install is an older way of oing things, now discouraged.

[proud siren]

Got it, thanks! I can’t try that right now, but I will in a while when I’m available.

[umbral sun]

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