🔒 Is taking help* from ai not learning?

[tropic wasp]

I just wanted to ask all of you is taking help from ai as in guidance and not just give me everything i need thats copy paste is this not learning i if happen to ask something thats if things i found werent taking me somewhere ask for how to do it step by step but with no code provided atmost just pseudocode?
Is this fine?
Am i still learning stuff?

[vocal notch]

@tropic wasp

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[buoyant vine]

If you're copying directly without even understanding it then, yes and if you're taking notes on what each element does and making your own, then you're not....
Vibe coding is always bad you can't develop the capacity to navigate libraries....

[plucky cove]

If you think you can now do it again without the AI to help, then you are learning

If you keep asking the same thing again and again, then you are not

I will warn you tho: the AI may not be perfectly up to date, and can provide advice that are outdated

You should double check without other sources

(or easier, start by checking other sources :))

[gray plover]

A programmer is more than a pseudocode-to-syntax translation machine; arguably that is the easiest part of the process.
The actual important thing is to think in a programmatic way, to be able to come up with ideas for how to write a program to solve a particular problem. By getting AI to write the pseudocode for you, you're outsourcing the actual important part.

[tropic wasp]

Well its not i prompt it to give the code i really dont wanna get the code itself but to get a better idea of what i am facing ? Is that the same thing?

[gray plover]

"a better idea of what you're facing"? what does that mean? what is the AI actually giving you?

[tropic wasp]

Like sometimes i am confused asf dont even know where to start so the start point is what i meant

[gray plover]

Whenever you get AI to do something for you, you lose a chance to build that skill yourself.
If you get AI to give you the "start point" for every problem, you will not develop the ability to start solving problems on your own. Which I think is important.

Either

1. Sit with that confusion. Think about the problem, for as long as it takes. Play with the problem on pen and paper. Solve it manually (without a program) and observe your process.
2. Pick easier problems. This is not a bad thing, you just need to work your way up.

[balmy sparrow]

In my opinion that starting although hard is most probably the most important part

Problem solving is a big part of programming. It's not just about memorizing algorithms and writing syntax.

You can take help if you get stuck somewhere but then you should make sure you actually understand how the solution works and that you can do it yourself the next time. Maybe try something similar but slightly different

[tropic wasp]

I do agree with your point i also dont copy the code the chatgpt gives and its also very rare i actually go to chatgpt or any other ai to ask for it to just give the code for me to copy

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