🔒 i made a very shitty average calculator and i know there are better ways to do it but need help | Python | Page 1

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:20 PM

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so i just made a very shitty average calculator and as the title says would like to know how to improve it

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sullen heron so i just made a very shitty average calculator and as the title says would like...

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@sullen heron

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sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:21 PM

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improve it as in the code

hollow patio Sep 14, 2025, 1:22 PM

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sullen heron improve it as in the code

we cant really suggest improvements to code that we dont see

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:22 PM

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what was the format thing again

hollow patio Sep 14, 2025, 1:22 PM

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!code ?

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sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:22 PM

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def avarage_calc2(a, b):
    return a + b

def avarage_calc3(a, b, c):
    return a + b + c

def avarage_calc4(a, b, c, d, e):
    return (a + b + c + d) / e

print('Welcome! please enter your subject below')

subject = input(' > ')

if  subject != '':
    print('please enter the amount of grades you wanna enter')
    grade_number = input(' > ')

    if grade_number == '1':
        print('???')

    elif grade_number == '2':
        print('enter below!')
        grades = int(input(' > '))
        grades2 = int(input(' > '))

        print('the avarage of ', str(subject), '=', grades, '+', grades2, '=',avarage_calc2(grades, grades2,))

    elif grade_number == '3':
        print('enter below!')
        grades3 = int(input(' > '))
        grades4 = int(input(' > '))
        grades5 = int(input(' > '))

    elif grade_number == '4':
        print('enter below! WARNING: at last answer enter amount of grades u entered')
        grades6 = int(input(' > '))
        grades7 = int(input(' > '))
        grades8 = int(input(' > '))
        grades9 = int(input(' > '))
        grades10 = int(input(' AMOUNT OF GRADES > '))

        print('the avarage of ', str(subject), '=', grades6, '+', grades7, '+',grades8, '+',grades9, '=', avarage_calc4( grades6, grades7, grades8, grades9, grades10))

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i js hopped on my pc and typed whatever looked logical

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its not finished i know that

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i was just brainstorming if i could like array the inputs then / it by the array index?

hollow patio Sep 14, 2025, 1:23 PM

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sure, use a loop or some other construct for repeating things
no sensible program hardcodes the code for each amount of inputs

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:24 PM

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huh

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:25 PM

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do you know how to do forand/or while loops?

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:25 PM

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i know how to start one and how it works

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but im ngl i have no idea how to implement a loop into this

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:26 PM

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so, what rules do you want to apply to the input?

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what should be the minimum and maximum allowed values?

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:26 PM

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sullen heron i js hopped on my pc and typed whatever looked logical

Great way to start coding, even greater u came here seeking advice to improve it, good job pithink

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:27 PM

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celest jackal so, what rules do you want to apply to the input?

well this code is about grades so im guessing min input is 1 and max is 10

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:27 PM

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abstract lily Great way to start coding, even greater u came here seeking advice to improve it...

i didnt wanna watch a 5 hour video about python and then know nothing so i js watched a 10 minute video of someone explaining the VERY basics and then i got to work

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:28 PM

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sullen heron well this code is about grades so im guessing min input is 1 and max is 10

so, then you want to convert the input to a integer (whole number) between those two numbers (inclusive)

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:28 PM

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One of rare cases where a tutorial might just work out for some1 huh

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:28 PM

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celest jackal so, then you want to convert the input to a integer (whole number) between those...

huh wdym im a little slow

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:28 PM

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sullen heron i didnt wanna watch a 5 hour video about python and then know nothing so i js wa...

yeah, i would stay away from the really long videos

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:29 PM

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abstract lily One of rare cases where a tutorial might just work out for some1 huh

i wrote everything he explained like variables datatypes loops etc and then js did wtv

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with prior javascript knowledge but i forgot most of that bc during lectures i js chatgped it all

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:29 PM

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sullen heron huh wdym im a little slow

evenything that you input at the input() prompt is returned as a string of text, you can't do any math on it directly

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:30 PM

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i have int(input())

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:30 PM

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you need to convert it to a number, and for whole numbers that is int (an integer)

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:30 PM

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sullen heron with prior javascript knowledge but i forgot most of that bc during lectures i j...

So from that u prob learned that if u want to learn u shouldnt rely on ai like chatgpt i hope pithink

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:30 PM

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abstract lily So from that u prob learned that if u want to learn u shouldnt rely on ai like c...

i did its exactly why im here rn lol

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i regret using chatgpt for everything so im here asking to stay away from it

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:30 PM

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sullen heron i regret using chatgpt for everything so im here asking to stay away from it

good decision and learning 👍

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:31 PM

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i try my best

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but the code i wrote is very unconventional im guessing

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hope i wrote that correctly

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alot of repeating

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:31 PM

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yeah, we are going to address that

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:31 PM

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if i learned 1 thing from tutorials its minimum code for max output

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:31 PM

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using loops

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:32 PM

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sullen heron but the code i wrote is very unconventional im guessing

For beginner code i would give it 8 or 9 out of 10

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:32 PM

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❤️

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:32 PM

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Just because it isnt how experienced people would do it doesnt mean its bad code

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:32 PM

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well i know if i finished the code it does the job

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but if i try to implement more advanced stuff ill get more advanced

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usually i hate coding but after hearing my symfony linux classes i wanted to code more

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:33 PM

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you want to have int() around this one as well

grade_number = input(' > ')
```and then we'll change the if statements

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:33 PM

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i also wanna go different directions with IT

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:33 PM

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celest jackal you want to have `int()` around this one as well ```py grade_number = input(' > ...

oh right ty

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:33 PM

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since you are asking for the number of something we do want to convert it to a number as well

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:33 PM

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guessing i should have int(input()) infront of everything where an integer is needed

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:34 PM

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then there are many ways to solve the loop

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:34 PM

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was the str(subject) a smart move

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i felt proud after writing that

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Idea was but its a bit redundant, u can print non-strings

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:35 PM

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sullen heron guessing i should have int(input()) infront of everything where an integer is ne...

to start off with, but later you probably want to do it a slightly different way for proper error handling, but that is for when you are at that level of coding

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:35 PM

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abstract lily Idea was but its a bit redundant, u can print non-strings

😔

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:35 PM

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celest jackal to start off with, but later you probably want to do it a slightly different way...

alrighty

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:35 PM

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sullen heron 😔

Dw a lot of beginners dont get that at first either pithink

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:36 PM

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input() returns a string by default, so you don't need to convert that to str manually

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:36 PM

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i felt like i was in a hacker movie when i wrote that str()

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:36 PM

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celest jackal input() returns a string by default, so you don't need to convert that to str ma...

ah

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that makes sense

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thats probably also why if i typed 2 4 5 i got back 245

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before adding int

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solved that by peeking at the calculator i built by snooping on google

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:37 PM

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how long have you been learning python?
i'm asking because other then the repetitions i think it's not bad at all for a beginner

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:37 PM

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well i started learning python 3 or 4 days ago

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all by myself

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in school i took a year of javascript classes

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:37 PM

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that is very good progress in that short amount of time 👍

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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but i didnt do alot of coding with js

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i did it all with ai

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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ah, that helps

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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celest jackal that is very good progress in that short amount of time 👍

tyt y

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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having experience from another programming language

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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actually 6 months because the other 6 months were spent on php

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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oh, so you have two other languages under your belt 👍

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:38 PM

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Php is def a fun language

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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i know html css js and php

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its not like im a master at those

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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oh, doing it with ai, that way you don't learn very much

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i see where you are coming from now

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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yeah

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i know very little about javascript and how to work with itt because i never did

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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good decision to skip ai this time around

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:39 PM

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i know what does what

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but i couldnt implement it myself

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if i use ai its for like a random line that has an error and im completely lost

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but yeah learning python was out of nowhere

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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have you worked with lists in python yet?

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:40 PM

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ever since ive been replaying watchdogs 2 i wanted to learn more cyber security and hacking and stuff

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but i also wanted to learn python

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to get into coding more

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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celest jackal have you worked with lists in python yet?

i can send my 3 little projects

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those are the only things ive done so far

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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lets concentrate on this one project for now

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:41 PM

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oops

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okay lets do that

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:42 PM

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sullen heron okay lets do that

So what u know about lists

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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nothing pretty sure

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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so, we should be about here right now

print('Welcome! please enter your subject below')

subject = input(' > ')

if subject != '':
    print('please enter the amount of grades you wanna enter')
    grade_number = int(input(' > '))

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:43 PM

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yes

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:44 PM

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you want to start with a loop that does something a certain number of times

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let's go with a for loop to start with

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do you know about range()?

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:44 PM

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for i in range(4):
print()

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prints it 4 times

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right

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i feel like a master programmer

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:45 PM

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great, you can use this for the input of the grades as well

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we don't need the number right now, so you can change the i to _ in there, it's usually used as a through away variable, like "we are not going to use this value" and then instead of 4 in there, you want the variable with the answer from the last question

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what do you think that code look like?

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if you can give me that line of code

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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hmmmm

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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because we want to ask for the input for the grade that number of times that they input just before that loop

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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so no using i

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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you can, but you don't really need it (that's why we skip it and put something else there instead)

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:48 PM

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ill do it for simpicity

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lemme think

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where should i add the for loop?

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in the elif

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..?

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 1:49 PM

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you can have the i there for now if you want to

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but you won't really need that variable or that value

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as you just want to do the loops that number of times

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and don't really care which iteration of the loop you are currently in

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:50 PM

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sullen heron nothing pretty sure

Well for starters, lets think of a list as a street, our elements are our houses and our indexes are the houses' adressess

# the [] and , are important
some_list = [1, 2, "3", 4]

So here we have 4 elements (1,2,"3" and 4) and respectively they have the indexes 0,1,2 and 3 (always integers starting the count from 0)

# indexes our list with 0 to get 1st element
print(some_list[0]) # will print 1

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Im post this for later since i finished writing it but focus on that loop for now

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pithink

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:51 PM

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okay i think im over complicating the loop

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brainfart

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i actually have no idea how to make a for loop for this instance

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i think im thinking too hard

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:53 PM

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abstract lily Well for starters, lets think of a list as a street, our elements are our houses...

oh so an array?

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:54 PM

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sullen heron oh so an array?

If u know arrays then they close enough ig

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They a lil different but very similar

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:56 PM

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fair

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wheres the other mr

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i need him to help me with the loop

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🥹

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because i have no idea

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 1:58 PM

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sullen heron because i have no idea

Do u see any line(s) that is basically spammed over and over

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Replace that with a loop

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 1:59 PM

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    elif grade_number == '2':
        print('enter below!')
        for i in range(2):
        grades = int(input(' > '))

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like this?"

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:00 PM

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sullen heron like this?"

On right track, u need to indent stuff to be inside loops

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Just like u do with if

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Also this doesnt store / do anything with the input

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:00 PM

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i also heard indents are important for python

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:00 PM

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So once user inputs once, its gonna be lost next loop iteration as u just ask them again for input and store on same var

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:01 PM

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sullen heron for i in range(4): print()

take this loop and modify it a little bit

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:01 PM

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isnt that what i did above

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:02 PM

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sullen heron i also heard indents are important for python

indents are used in python instead of curly braces to group lines together into a block of code

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:02 PM

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oh

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ohhhh

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i was wondering how it knew which codes are together without like {}

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:04 PM

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many languages use curly braces, others use a specific word like ifreversed as fi (posix-like shell scripting for example) others use something like done, end or endif, python uses the indentations instead

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:04 PM

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U gonna be very well acquainted with fi approach if u gonna be on linux

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:04 PM

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well i have to learn linux for school

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i also wanna dive into linux myself so im glad we get the classes

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:05 PM

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are you on windows right now?

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in that case just start by using wsl

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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i am on windows yes

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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it's good enough for many things

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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wsl?

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im still lost on the loop..

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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celest jackal in that case just start by using wsl

wsl --install archlinux u do that by just typing this into console

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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windows subsystem for linux

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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sullen heron wsl?

Wsl is literally a mini linux instance/terminal but running on ur windows

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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ubuntu will probably be more user friendly for a beginner

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:06 PM

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abstract lily `wsl --install archlinux` u do that by just typing this into console

isnt archlinux like linux final boss

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:07 PM

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no, there are others that are more like a final boss than that

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:07 PM

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sullen heron isnt archlinux like linux final boss

Nah

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Installing arch from scratch is def not something i recommend

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But getting used to it from wsl would be surprisingly not bad

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:08 PM

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"linux from scratch" is a dist where you do everything yourself, it's really useful to learn the ins and outs of linux when you already know quite a lot for example

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:08 PM

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Then there is people like me who use gentoo

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:09 PM

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gentoo is more "from scratch" then arch for example, many gentoo people have moved over to arch now though

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Which is the 2nd last boss or so to speak

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:09 PM

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damn

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..

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idk i wanna use linux to look like a hacker

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thats a joke

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im interested in linux

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isnt kalilinux used for hacking tho

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youtube autoplay does wonders

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:10 PM

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sullen heron isnt kalilinux used for hacking tho

More specfiically pentesting

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:10 PM

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you also have things like NixOS and Guix

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:10 PM

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And its awful for daily driving

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Not even made for daily driving

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:10 PM

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okay where does a baby coder like me start with linux

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:11 PM

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celest jackal you also have things like NixOS and Guix

And on the other end of spectrum u got distros like uwuntu

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:11 PM

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yeah, many people come here with kali linux installed 🤦
don't do that

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:11 PM

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okay i wont

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:11 PM

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mint is apparently a good starting distro

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:11 PM

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sullen heron okay where does a baby coder like me start with linux

Get ubuntu or debian if u want to daily drive it like u would with windows else imo get archlinux on wsl

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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delete system 32

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sudo

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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it's ubuntu with more things out of the box

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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😎

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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but ubuntu will be fine too

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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abstract lily Get ubuntu or debian if u want to daily drive it like u would with windows else ...

well its not like i wanna use linux for gaming or everyday things necessarily

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i just wanna know more

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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Why did i suggest debiab

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I meant fedora

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:12 PM

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i wanna dive into the world of computers

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lowk be a coding geek

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:13 PM

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personally i don't like ubuntu much, i'll rather just use debian or something else, but i guess it's good for beginners

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fedora is nice too

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:13 PM

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sullen heron i just wanna know more

Then i suggest installing archlinux on wsl

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Arch wiki is hella nice

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:13 PM

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archlinux it is then

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:13 PM

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fedora = for developers by developers

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:13 PM

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started trying to fix my code left as a member of linux

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:13 PM

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that was their tagline for a long time

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:14 PM

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celest jackal fedora is nice too

Its what i shoved on my 2015 macbook air when i got sick of macos

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:14 PM

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is wsl like a mini computer

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isnt linux an os

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:14 PM

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sullen heron is wsl like a mini computer

Do u know what virtual machines are

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:14 PM

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yes

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computer in computer

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:14 PM

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Basically what wsl is

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:14 PM

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that was the word i was looking for i js forgot it

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:15 PM

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Except it doesnt take huge resources to run

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:15 PM

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aaaaah

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okay how to wsl myself into archlinux

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this took such a big turn of events im dying

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:15 PM

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sullen heron okay how to wsl myself into archlinux

Just install it with command i said earlier

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:15 PM

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it uses a light version of microsofts hyper-v for virtualization

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:16 PM

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Then u can just type wsl to enter

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:16 PM

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its starting

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it closed itself

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:17 PM

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The only thing a lil weird about archlinux wsl image is that it doesnt come with a user but thats easy to fix

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:17 PM

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anyways, shouldn't we be working on your code? 😆

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:17 PM

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right..

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i gotta leave in 25 minutes btw

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..

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:17 PM

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celest jackal anyways, shouldn't we be working on your code? 😆

Oh right this #1035199133436354600

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:17 PM

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why isnt wsl opening

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grr

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why does it look like a penguin

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antartica animal

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did i break wsl

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:22 PM

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so, the loop, it should look something like

    print('enter below!')
    for _ in range(grade_number):
        grade = int(input(' > '))
```but right now we aren't saving the numbers besides the very last one as we are overwriting that variable over and over

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:23 PM

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could u also explain like why u do some things

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helps with understanding

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:23 PM

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so you would want a list and the append that to the list for each iteration

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:23 PM

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yes i thought about that

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but with an array

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where u append the grades into an array

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:24 PM

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as you wanted

print('enter below!')
```before all the inputs, but only once, we but that outside of the loop, before the loop

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:24 PM

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sullen heron where u append the grades into an array

Try it

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:24 PM

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no.

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:24 PM

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then we want a list too and append things to the list

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but to focus on the loop, this is what range()gives you

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!e

print(list(range(5)))

brave lanternBOT Sep 14, 2025, 2:26 PM

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celest jackal !e ```py print(list(range(5))) ```

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[0, 1, 2, 3, 4]

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:26 PM

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so if we put that in a loop we instead get

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!e

for _ in range(5):
    print(" > ")

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celest jackal !e ```py for _ in range(5): print(" > ") ```

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 |  > 
002 |  > 
003 |  > 
004 |  > 
005 |  >

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:27 PM

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we get the prompt printed five times

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we didn't need the number here, so i'm "throwing it away" by assigning it to _ (it's only by convention, it's not really thrown away, it's assigned to a variable named _, but we typically don't use it and just use it to communicate that "we are not going to use this value anywhere in the code")

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:30 PM

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so 5 is assigned to _?

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:31 PM

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instead of just printing the prompt we use input() instead to be able to ask the user for input, but the Python bot here can't handle input() as there is no real terminal for it to read from

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:32 PM

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ah

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    elif grade_number == '2':
        print('enter below!')
        for _ in range(grade_number):
            grades = int(input(' > '))

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:32 PM

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sullen heron so 5 is assigned to _?

yes, the first time 0 is assigned to _, the second time 1 is assigned to it and so on until 4, which is the fifth value as it starts from 0

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:32 PM

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this is what i copied from u so far.

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:33 PM

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you don't need the if statement there anymore

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so you don't need to check the number they input

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:33 PM

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OH

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:33 PM

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we can add some checks to have limits on the value later, but for now we don't need it

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it will run as many times as they tell it to

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this is why you want a loop

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:34 PM

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ahh so i can delete all other statements

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:34 PM

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and in python you generally use lists rather then arrays unless you are doing very specific things

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:34 PM

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sullen heron ahh so i can delete all other statements

yeah, and the repetition of code

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this is why we use a loop here instead

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:35 PM

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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my code just became half the size

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:35 PM

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do "this" (the indented code block under the for loop) x number of times

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:36 PM

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ahhh

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and how do i do the math part..

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same way?

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:37 PM

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sullen heron and how do i do the math part..

I still dont get what that part is accomplishing

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:37 PM

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we can do it right away if you are just going to calculate it and never use the values one by one

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:37 PM

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abstract lily I still dont get what that part is accomplishing

well i need to use math to calculate the average no?

abstract lily Sep 14, 2025, 2:37 PM

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There is 2 sum functions and then a sum and a division

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:37 PM

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i'm guessing calculating the average grade

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no need really

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just add to a total

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so, you want a total = 0 above the loop

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:38 PM

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wait i sparked a thought

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what if i add everything and then devide by the GRADE_NUMBER

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im so smart

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:38 PM

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and then you can add the grade to the total within the loop for each iteration

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:38 PM

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celest jackal so, you want a `total = 0` above the loop

oh alright

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why?

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:39 PM

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because you need something to hold the values that they put in, either a list that you later sum up or a total that you can calculate as you go

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:39 PM

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ah fair

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:40 PM

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then you take the total and divide it with grade_number

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:40 PM

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yes

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smart

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also when i press enter sometimes it registers double is that a pycharm thing or a keyboard thing

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:42 PM

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so you have the basic syntax of

total = total + grade
```or you can do both operations at the same time with the combined operator `+=` (no space in between them and in that specific order) which looks like
```py
total += grade

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:42 PM

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whats the difference

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:43 PM

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no difference other then more compact syntax when the variable that you assign to is the same as the variable in-front of the operand like you have in the first one there

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:44 PM

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ah

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    print('enter below!')
    for _ in range(grade_number):
             grades = int(input(' > '))
             total += grades

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what i have rn

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:46 PM

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so, we should be about here right now

print('Welcome! please enter your subject below')

subject = input(' > ')

if subject != '':
    print('please enter the amount of grades you wanna enter')
    grade_number = int(input(' > '))

    total = 0

    print('enter below!')
    for _ in range(grade_number):
       grade = int(input(' > '))
       total += grade

    print(total / grade_number)

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something like that at least

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there is a lot more we could do to make this code better, but it should be a good start for now

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:47 PM

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yues ty

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youre so goated

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im glad my initial code wasnt that bad either

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but this cleared it up for me

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and made loops more clear

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off topic

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do yk why wsl wont start anymore

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:48 PM

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the best way to learn something is to do mistakes

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:49 PM

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make break repair

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something along the lines

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:49 PM

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you don't learn very much by success

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at least not until you made a lot of mistakes first to get there

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:49 PM

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ofcourse

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:50 PM

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sullen heron do yk why wsl wont start anymore

..?

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well i gtg anyways thats a bother for later

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if u know why please dm me incase this little chat gets closed or deleted

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THANK YOU and have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!!

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:51 PM

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sullen heron ..?

would need more time too look into that

sullen heron Sep 14, 2025, 2:51 PM

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ofcourse

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it happened after the wsl line and it installed shit

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:52 PM

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sullen heron if u know why please dm me incase this little chat gets closed or deleted

chats are archived as read-only after you close them or they are automatically closed by the Python bot after an hour without any new messages in the thread

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but you can save a link to the thread or a specific message and read it any time you like later on

celest jackal Sep 14, 2025, 2:54 PM

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sullen heron THANK YOU and have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!!

you're welcome and thanks, you too
welcome back here to open a new help thread any time you have another python related question

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@sullen heron for reference, here is a version that gathers the answers up into a list and sums them

print('Welcome! please enter your subject below')

subject = input(' > ')

if subject != '':
    print('please enter the amount of grades you wanna enter')
    grade_number = int(input(' > '))

    grades = []  # create an empty list

    print('enter below!')
    for _ in range(grade_number):
       grade = int(input(' > '))
       grades.append(grade)  # append each grade to the list

    print(sum(grades) / grade_number)  # sum up the grades in the list and divide the sum with the number of grades to get the average
```but for just calculating an average this isn't really needed unless you are going to use the values from each answer for something else (like presenting them or something), so for now i would prefer the earlier implementation

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i would put this into a function and turn the if statement into a if-guard statement instead for example

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then add an if-guard to the grade_number to check that it's within the range of allowed numbers

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just for starters

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