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lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:15 PM

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So i'm trying to create this bot but i'm can't pass the venv wall. i'm super newbie and i'm trying my best to understand all the knowlegde i skiped. I think i was able to create a venv inside the folder programing/testing. And i placed a .env file in the token in the programing folder. the bot.py is also inside the programing folder. I don't know if i'm using the wrong interpreter or if i'm running in the wrong place but for some reason i can't make it work.

fleet flameBOT Aug 28, 2025, 3:15 PM

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lyric slate So i'm trying to create this bot but i'm can't pass the venv wall. i'm super new...

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lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Trouble with venv.

dapper chasm Aug 28, 2025, 3:28 PM

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okay. and what happens when you do python bot.py from the ~/Programming directory?

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:30 PM

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i'm not sure if you asking me this

dapper chasm Aug 28, 2025, 3:31 PM

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yes, that

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now try python -m pip install discord-py
perhaps you had it installed outside the venv

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:32 PM

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lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:32 PM

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dapper chasm now try `python -m pip install discord-py` perhaps you had it installed outside ...

ok

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:33 PM

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lyric slate i'm not sure if you asking me this

You need to activate your venv before being able to run its main file with all the dependencies. Are you sure you've activated it here? I might be confused, but it doesn't look like it to me

dapper chasm Aug 28, 2025, 3:34 PM

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ugh, right. VS Code doesn't activate the venv in its terminal automatically

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yeah, you're gonna need to do that

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:34 PM

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exotic lava You need to activate your venv before being able to run its main file with all t...

i don't think i did no. i activated on Programing/testing

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:35 PM

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What's testing?

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:35 PM

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exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:36 PM

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Oh it's the name of the venv

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:36 PM

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oh i'm sorry guys it's just a mess

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:37 PM

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lyric slate i don't think i did no. i activated on Programing/testing

So activate then try running bot.py again

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Like go back to dir Programming then type

source testing/bin/activate

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:41 PM

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exotic lava So activate then try running bot.py again

ok let me try

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how can I @exotic lava . in the terminal i seem to be stuck on the (venv). i tried by using cd.. or cd Programing but i'm stuck.

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i'm trying to do it in the VScode terminal btw

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:44 PM

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Show the console window

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cd ~/Programming
``` should work

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:46 PM

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and it did!

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exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:47 PM

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Anyway it looks like the venv is already activated so run python3 list to see if discord.py was correctly installed

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:50 PM

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should i run it inside of ~/Programing?

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exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:52 PM

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Oh my bad run pip3 list

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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seems to be

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:54 PM

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Perfect now try python3 bot.py

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:55 PM

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exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:56 PM

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Oh right you seem to use another package which you evidently didn't install

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:56 PM

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am i trolling or something? i know there's a file called .env with the token inside.

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:57 PM

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Yes but from dotenv import load_env only works of you installed the dotenv package

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 3:58 PM

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oh damn... the youtuber must already had installed

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:58 PM

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Go ahead and install it then

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 3:59 PM

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stupid question why are you using python3/pip3 inside a venv

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:59 PM

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Also last time I checked discord.py YouTube tutorials are horribly outdated

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 3:59 PM

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lethal oracle stupid question why are you using python3/pip3 inside a venv

Um why

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:00 PM

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aren't python3/pip3 usually the systemwide installations in cases where systems still ran python 2 and python 3 alongside each other

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:00 PM

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exotic lava Go ahead and install it then

dude i just love you bro

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:00 PM

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if you have a venv you should be able to just use python

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:00 PM

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Noted

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:01 PM

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and i'm actually suspicious now that you're not doing anything in the venv and doing everything in the user installation

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:01 PM

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oh do you think so?

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:02 PM

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can you show me the output of pip list (not pip3)

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:02 PM

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I am also not doing anything in Linux, I use Windows
Linux environment things are still foreign to me

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:03 PM

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lethal oracle can you show me the output of `pip list` (not pip3)

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:03 PM

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Oh cool so from now on you can do python bot.py and pip ... whenever you activate your venv

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Still haven't installed dotenv

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:04 PM

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exotic lava Still haven't installed dotenv

python-dotenv is there

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:04 PM

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You're right 💀

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:05 PM

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it's there but i installed using pip3 no problem right? it1s theere anyway

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:05 PM

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well python venvs are confusing but it's better to keep project specific dependencies to the venv rather than the system installation, that's why I want to be careful

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last thing to check, run deactivate, then do pip list again

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:06 PM

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ok

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lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:08 PM

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ok seems everything is fine

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reactivate your venv now

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by the way usually the venv directory is called .venv so it's easy to tell where it is without guessing what "testing" is

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:10 PM

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lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:10 PM

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lethal oracle by the way usually the venv directory is called `.venv` so it's easy to tell whe...

sure i'll change it

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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i don't remember if it's ok to just rename it, you might have to recreate the venv for it to work

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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lethal oracle i don't remember if it's ok to just rename it, you might have to recreate the ve...

i mean the process that i just learn with you awesome people i'll just do all over again.

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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well hold on then

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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Some scripts are installed with a shebang line with an absolute path so best recreate if you want to rename

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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the correct process is to have your main dependencies written down somewhere so you could recreate a venv very easily

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specifically, create a requirements.txt file first where you can write discord.py and whatever else you use with their versions

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specifically you can run pip freeze and copy the lines of the stuff you use directly

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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so with a pip freezei would have the main dependencies writed down for me? i'm leaning the words still

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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It creates a requirements.txt file with all the packages installed in the environment

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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no, pip freeze will give you the list of all packages installed and their versions, not all of these are main dependencies, some of them are installed because your dependencies depend on them, you don't need to save them

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so you have to pick out the stuff you're using directly to copy to the requirements.txt

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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Which I believe are just discord.py and python-dotenv in your case so far

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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yeah yeah i just saw it

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yo guys thank you very much once again. for your time and care. thank you so much

exotic lava Aug 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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You're welcome

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:22 PM

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@lyric slate did you create the file?

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:25 PM

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yes i think i did just like u said. i created a requirements.txt file and added the things i installed

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like this

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lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:26 PM

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now if you delete your old venv and create a new one (called .venv), you'll be able to install all the same stuff by running pip install -r requirements.txt

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:26 PM

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oh really? that's awesome!!

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thank you officer. you guys are just great

lethal oracle Aug 28, 2025, 4:29 PM

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that's why these days we hold that venvs should be cattle, not pets - you should be able to delete them and recreate them easily

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that's why we expect them to be in .venv

lyric slate Aug 28, 2025, 4:30 PM

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lethal oracle that's why these days we hold that venvs should be cattle, not pets - you should...

ooh alright. that's a good way of picturing it. cattle got no names

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dude i'm getting beaten down by linux and python bro. but it's just awesome to see how things works.

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god bless the community for real

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