🔒 are there any bugs inside of my code? (i dont recommend reading it, it has no comments)

[limber cedar]

just test by running it if you want to

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[limber cedar]

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[ancient gyro]

I dont believe so

[cerulean rover]

i dont recommend reading it, it has no comments
Comments are really not necessary here. The code is very easy to read, which is great! The only thing that gets in the way is its cyclomatic complexity, but at this level, it doesn't need anything more.

[wheat lynx]

that is the opposite of what people should be doing
no one should be executing/running code that they get from some random person on the internet without understanding the code, especially not after such a statement

[limber cedar]

huh/

[limber cedar]

idk i think comments are a thing on pep8

iv never read it tho

[limber cedar]

its just a quiz thing to help with studying/learning concepts

[limber cedar]

i said dont read it if you dont want to for a reason. i dont know how messy it is

[wheat lynx]

yeah, i see that

[wheat lynx]

you might want to put the othere strings (and other data) in a data structure too and then loop through them so that you don't have to repeat your code over and over

[limber cedar]

whats a data structure

[wheat lynx]

a collection of data with a certain structure, which structure depends on the data and the goal of the program

[limber cedar]

this confuses me

i just started two days ago

[wheat lynx]

you are already constructing simple data structures in the form of tuples right now in the code, but you could make them a little bit more structured and not have to repeat you code so much

[wheat lynx]

for two days in that looks like pretty good progress 👍

[limber cedar]

side question, are dictionaries just meant for keeping organized code? that way you can just use the key of it and with that get the value

[wheat lynx]

have you programmed in any other language before?

[limber cedar]

i learned a bit of lua over like a week by just watching tutorials mostly

i already know some basic concepts, and i decided i liked programming recent;y so i decided to learn python

[wheat lynx]

it's to organize information, but you can also affect program flow depending on such information

[limber cedar]

i wanted to make a chat bot next. would using a dictionary be better then making a bunch of tuples

[wheat lynx]

it looks like you are doing very well so far, keep it up 🙂

[limber cedar]

thanks!!

im going to spend this week learning everything about basic concepts, then i want to try moving on to intermediat stuff

[wheat lynx]

just a "mechanic" chat bot without any intelligence, just prepared a responses, sure you could do that if you want too

[limber cedar]

alright

[wheat lynx]

do expect the basics to take longer than that though

[limber cedar]

i want to try giving it combined resposnes, and a limit system so that it doesnt repeat itself after saying one thing once (like hello)

[wheat lynx]

when you have learned dictionaries you might want to see how you could improve the code that you posted earlier so that you don't have to repeat the logic of the script so much

[limber cedar]

ill try that. i want to optimize everything eventually and add an entirely different part of the quiz for intermediate stuff

also fix the feedback messages

[wheat lynx]

you could even improve this code without using dictionaries (or class of some sort might be even more appropriate)
but without such things the code would get prone to bugs if the data structure isn't exactly what the program expects, and it would be easy to unintentionally get a bug in there

a good exercise would be to build upon this c9de and improve it step by step when you learn new things that you can apply to this code

[hexed zealot]

Anyone else mention that every question responds with either

print("Correct! a conditional is checking if things are (any operator) to other things.")
``` or
```py
print("Wrong! a conditional is checking if things are (any operator) to other things. ")
``` ?

[wheat lynx]

you're right, wrong response strings for all but one question since they are all copy-pasted

[hexed zealot]

So yeah, if you started with some structure like

data = [
    {
        "question": "What are data types?",
        "answers": ["int", "float", "str", ...],
        "final": "Data types include int, str, float, ...",
    },
    ...
]
``` then you could have one object per type of question you want to ask, you randomly select that object, and then work from it dynamically.
You don't need to know ahead of time how many possible answers there are per-question, you don't need new variables, and everything stays together.
```py
challenge = random.choice(data)
response = input(challenge["question"])
if response in challenge["answers"]:
    result = "Correct!"
else:
    result = "Wrong!"
print(f"{result} {challenge['final']}")

Just build on from there, take note of the number of answers you have (len(challenge["answers"])) if you want that, and so on.

This would be my approach to DRYing up the code, as an example. Recognize the patterns that are in the code you have, and distill that down to simpler code with less repetition.
The smaller and less repetitive it is, the more unique features you can have in there.

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