🔒 Protobuf version conflict: TensorFlow 2.11 needs <3.20, OpenTelemetry-Proto needs ≥5.0

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@valid elm

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[stray kettle]

does it need to be specifically those versions? Can't you just pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto tensorflow protobuf?

[valid elm]

no need for these versions
I only use tensorflow==2.11.0 in my code
but the other is installed beased on the warning

you mean i should uninstall all these libraries and then install all

with the same line?

[stray kettle]

you could or just upgrade the package that you want

pip install protobuf --upgrade for example

[valid elm]

as of my understaing leting pip to determine the versions will led to an issue and conflicts

[stray kettle]

I doubt that

Because leaving it to pip to detemine the versions will safely rely the current version of Python in the environment and checking the version of the package that is compatible with that environment and install the latest stable version (unless otherwise version number is specified)

[versed tide]

would upgrading tensorflow solve this?

[valid elm]

will test this and let you know

[valid elm]

unfortunately no
i use 3.15.0 and 3.16.1

[versed tide]

of what

[valid elm]

it seems its a common issue

[versed tide]

does the latest tensorflow also limit the upper bound of protobuf?

no, the latest tensorflow requires protobuf>=5.28.0

[valid elm]

yes but thats will make a conflict with opentelemetry‑proto

[versed tide]

why would it?

[valid elm]

i try to find a versions for all these that can works toghter

[versed tide]

you said it yourself: opentelemetry‑proto 1.36.0 requires protobuf<7.0,>=5.0

so where would the conflict come from?

[valid elm]

so install tensorflow with 3.16.1
and

langfuse==3.2.2
opentelemetry‑proto==1.36.0
protobuf==3.20.3

will solve the issue

[versed tide]

uh, no

did you not see what I just wrote? opentelemetry-proto requires protobuf higher or equal to 5.0

[stray kettle]

Install tensorflow==3.16.1, then install the rest without version pinning and it should work™

[valid elm]

i do like this but got this error
tensorflow 2.16.1 has requirement protobuf!=4.21.0,!=4.21.1,!=4.21.2,!=4.21.3,!=4.21.4,!=4.21.5,<5.0.0dev,>=3.20.3, but you have protobuf 6.31.1.

i think we need to specify the version of protobuf

[stray kettle]

uninstall all packages and then install tensorflow==3.16.1, and then the rest without version pinning

[shrewd vine]

Why? How?
If you install all at once (one command with all, or one requirements.txt file), it will try to match all requirements.
Your file doesn't work because it has all requirements set as == and they have conflicting deps.

Removing all reqs (all ==ver) from the file and just running it will be the same as running pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto tensorflow protobuf and will make pip cross-check all dependency requirements and choose versions of all libs that match those (NOT choose newest of each).

(But ONLY if you run it like this together, installing one-by-one means it only checks the lib currently being installed - that might be what you heard.)

After the versions get automatically determined like this, you'd freeze the reqs as a new requirements.txt file or other format you use.

[shrewd vine]

You said 2.16.1 but Q said 3.16.1

[valid elm]

i think he mean 2.16.1

[stray kettle]

I copied what you wrote

!pip tensorflow

[cinder lodge]

tensorflow v2.19.0

TensorFlow is an open source machine learning framework for everyone.

Released on <t:1741741688:D>.

[valid elm]

yes my bad sorry

[stray kettle]

What Python version are you using? 3.12?

[valid elm]

3.9

[valid elm]

this remove all conflicts

but with lower versions

Name: tensorflow
Version: 2.9.0

[shrewd vine]

With highest non-conflicting versions. Which is the point

[valid elm]

no i mean install with. this line
pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto tensorflow protobuf

use a version of Tensorflow

2.9.0

[shrewd vine]

3.9 eol is scheduled for October

[shrewd vine]

And those are exactly the highest non-conflicting versions

[versed tide]

what's that about 2.9.0?

of what

[stray kettle]

Why are you on 3.9?

[shrewd vine]

You could try adding a requirement to tensorflow ONLY with the whole command, but pip will most likely not find anything. (I guess it could still find something if it traded one lib's higher version for tf lower, when one lib didn't have an upper bound on the dep... But that's reallt an edge case)

[stray kettle]

Is this the target Tensorflow version you want?

[valid elm]

a shared project and we use this vresion of python

[shrewd vine]

Laugh react to someone helping asking a valid question? I'm out. Bye.

[stray kettle]

Fair enough

[versed tide]

so is there something preventing you from using a later release of tensorflow, one that's compatible with protobuf 5?

[valid elm]

no no
@shrewd vine suggest that i can install all librires using these line

pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto tensorflow protobuf

when i use it i got no conflicts but the pip decide that the sutable version of tensorflow is 2.9.0

[versed tide]

add -U

pip install -U ...

[valid elm]

still the same

[versed tide]

I find that hard to believe

[stray kettle]

lemme try

[valid elm]

these casue this issue
tensorflow 2.16.1 requires protobuf!=4.21.0,!=4.21.1,!=4.21.2,!=4.21.3,!=4.21.4,!=4.21.5,<5.0.0dev,>=3.20.3, but you have protobuf 6.31.1 which is incompatible.

[valid elm]

i just copy this line
pip install -U langfuse opentelemetry-proto tensorflow protobuf

no magic 😂

[stray kettle]

Because you are still specifying the version in protobuf. You didn't uninstall your packages and the currently installed protobuf is 6.31.1

[valid elm]

no
i did

pip install tensorflow==2.16.1
then
pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto protobuf

[stray kettle]

I've installed Tensorflow 2.16.1. These are the compatible versions with it. This is in Python 3.9

[valid elm]

i have a requirements file
i can specify all versions there also

[versed tide]

I just created a fresh Python 3.9 virtualenv, then did pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto protobuf tensorflow. Everything installed fine, no conflicts.

[stray kettle]

Do you know how to uninstall packages?

pip uninstall ...

[valid elm]

yes i told this

no conflicts

[versed tide]

what's the problem then

[valid elm]

but with version of Tensrflow 2.9

[shrewd vine]

That's literally opposite of what you were told. You were told that if you add any version requirement to do it in the long-ass command.

Also, according to your own error, you did not uninstall the protobuf 6.31.1 you had installed previously. Pip DOES NOT downgrade the packages for you, so it settled for tf 2.9 which didn't have an upper bound for protobuf.

[versed tide]

for the record, tensorflow 2.20.0rc1 is compatible with protobuf 6

[valid elm]

sorry i update it
oriented details

[shrewd vine]

OP didn't uninstall protobuf 6.31.1 they installed previously (see this error #1403016930939506788 message) and thus pip is choosing the newest tf which didn't have upper bound for protobuf - which is 2.9.

Pip doesn't downgrade already installed packages (probably unless you tell it with some flag) so it can't choose newer tf while keeping the installed protobuf

[versed tide]

@valid elm so could you just wipe your virtualenv and start from scratch?

[stray kettle]

[versed tide]

would probably be easier for everyone that way

[valid elm]

can someone validated these versions

tensorflow==2.16.1
langfuse==2.60.9
protobuf==4.25.8
opentelemetry-proto==1.27.0

[valid elm]

yes will do that

but install using requirements file

[valid elm]

got from here

[versed tide]

what's in your requirements file?

[stray kettle]

You can validate it by installing it yourself. Just make a new venv or something

[versed tide]

if it contains exact version pins then this might be pointless

[shrewd vine]

Again, you were told the req file does NOT NEED hard version reqs.
You were told to just run the command in clean environment and then freeze the resulting reqs. Just like Agent Q did there.

You didn't even say what operating system you're using, so using Agent Q's versions might be incorrect

[stray kettle]

🙋 I'm using Ubuntu btw but I don't think that matters

[valid elm]

@stray kettle What is the verison of Tensrflow installed when you run the previous line

[stray kettle]

Guess

[shrewd vine]

Wheels are python ver x OS, so if OP runs a different architecture it may matter.
I'm mostly pointing out that OP is ignoring clear instructions and doing their own thing

[valid elm]

No

I just try to understand what you are saying

but because my mother language is not english i don't do that well

sorry

[versed tide]

(neither is mine)

[shrewd vine]

(Neither is mine)

[stray kettle]

(Malay is my first language)

[stray kettle]

Do the following:

1. Make a new venv
2. pip install tensorflow, protobuf, langfuse, opentelemetry-proto in the new activated venv
3. pip freeze into a new requirements.txt file

[shrewd vine]

*pip install the long command - the one with ALL the main libs and no versions specified

No separate commands, no installing from file. Just that one long command

[valid elm]

ok to be clear
I use Mac as an OS. I worked on a shared Django project
I need to use langfuse to track a LLM

project contains predefained Tensrflow with version 2.11.0

[versed tide]

so change the predefined tensorflow to something newer

[valid elm]

ok i uninstall the tensorflow then install the lateset stable version

whihc is 2.16.1

[versed tide]

no it's not

we already established that

[stray kettle]

Are you running Django inside Docker or something?

[valid elm]

yes

im still new to python my experince is with .net

[valid elm]

i will do
pip install -U tensorflow

[shrewd vine]

No. You were supposed to use the long pip install command with all the main libs. Not install tf separately with your own version requirement

[valid elm]

ok
i need to use this

pip3 install -U langfuse opentelemetry-proto tensorflow protobuf

right?

[warm wren]

It seems that the conflict comes from the incompatible versions of protobuf: Maybe you can

• First uninstall all conflicting libraries:
  pip uninstall tensorflow langfuse opentelemetry-proto protobuf

• Install the compatible version of TensorFlow (for example, tensorflow==2.16.1), because it is compatible with a newer protobuf version:
  pip install tensorflow==2.16.1

Then, install the other libraries without specifying a version:
pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto protobuf

This allows pip to choose the correct compatible versions between them.

50/50 😅

[valid elm]

I do exactly what you are doing

but got this error
tensorflow 2.16.1 requires protobuf!=4.21.0,!=4.21.1,!=4.21.2,!=4.21.3,!=4.21.4,!=4.21.5,<5.0.0dev,>=3.20.3, but you have protobuf 6.31.1 which is incompatible.

do that step by step

[shrewd vine]

Again, you didnt make a fresh environment

The steps are HERE #1403016930939506788 message

First step is to make a new clean environment. New environment won't have protobuf 6.31.1 installed because it won't have any libs installed

[valid elm]

ok
thank you all for your help

[warm wren]

Indeed, protobuf 6.31.1 is installed in your current environment, which causes the conflict with tensorflow==2.16.1.

I advise you to follow these steps in a new virtual environment:

• Create a new virtual environment:
  python -m venv mon_env

Activate this environment:

• On Windows:
  mon_env\Scripts\activate

• On macOS/Linux:
  source mon_env/bin/activate

Then install the packages one by one, as follows:

    pip install langfuse opentelemetry-proto protobuf```

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