🔒 hardest thing with python?

[wanton coral]

i just wanted to ask what was the hardest thing in python in your learning time. i am learning it now so for me till now while break and continue statement are hardest i've came across so far! share some with me so i get motivation that i'm not the only guy stuck in such an easy language

[brisk blade]

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[stone burrow]

hardest thing to do with python is probably solve P vs NP but i think 4D graphics could be up there

[fallen sparrow]

Yo

My friend Leo did this one time successfully

[abstract gazelle]

For me it is recursive statement, it was hard to gut a grasp of how the logic of using recursive

[fallen sparrow]

Do you have a full grasp of it now?

[abstract gazelle]

Yep

[fallen sparrow]

A full grasp of what?

The hardest problem I have come across is the halting problem which I have managed to solve successfully.

[abstract gazelle]

Thinking recursively specifically. That was the hardest part. Because a lot of things can go wrong in a recursive function if not thought out for some edge cases

[fallen sparrow]

Yea so true. But if you had a brain wave moment it’s actually very easy to think recursively in your head in another sense but then yea actually implementing that within python can be challenging.

[stone burrow]

is this the busy beaver stuff?

[fallen sparrow]

No but it is closely related.

Although no you say that I’m so interested

[fallen sparrow]

What do you think about the busy beavers problem bro.

[real pewter]

It is probably the halt problem

[wanton coral]

💀 nahh, im stuck at while and continue while you guys talking about something i don't even understand literally.💀 I'm cooked chat.

[stone burrow]

not really

[wanton coral]

Probably 🥺🥺🙏🏻

I don't feel like practicing while and continue, i just learned it definitionally but didn't practice it good. Can i skip it for now?

[deft mortar]

Honestly, I think the only person who replied to your question seriously was Befell. The other replies seem to be jokes. I wouldn't worry about them.

On what they mentioned, you'll need to learn recursion eventually, but it's an advanced topic. You won't really need it until you get into DS&A.

[stone burrow]

i missed my opportunity to say "divorce" or smth

didnt even read the post right: it was the hardest thing in python i had done

not what you could do

[wanton coral]

Hmm, DSA is looking a bit hard to me from even now, anyway, can i skip the while and continue if i hadn't practice it nicely, just definitionally?

[stone burrow]

and that would probably be to make a shitty version of (neo)vim

[wanton coral]

Whenever i try to practice it i end up making errors that makes my mood go down to practice on it

[lapis depot]

what errors do you make?

[stone burrow]

while loops and the continue statement are pretty simple. just go to the next step

[deft mortar]

You should definitely understand while and continue. Those are fairly fundamental building blocks. Or, at least while is fundamental, and continue is required to fully understand while.

[wanton coral]

I end up making infinite loops sometimes and sometimes i seek help through chat gpt for while and continue codes without error in output so i can learn through it, means i can't close them myself

Hmm, will practice tomorrow its midnight here so

Thanks fo the help guys💗

[lapis depot]

making an infinite loop is not misunderstanding while, its a logical error related to concrete problem you're solving with the while loop
for a loop to not be infinite, it has to depend on some variables that would change inside the loop in a way that at some point, the condition would become false
e.g. if you have

x = 10
while x > 0:
  print(x)

obviously that will be an infinite loop, because x doesn't change in it

[wanton coral]

Yeah, i read that, I couldn't understand this sentence before, didn't matter how simple it was told to me, so i asked chat gpt to break it down (the while and continue statements use) i can now understand what you guys are saying🥹

[wanton coral]

Owhhhh, that's a good point I'll note it

Finally i am able to understand ts , just lazy to practice it now lol

[brisk blade]

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