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[last rune]

Use a venv. "externally managed environment" means system python that doesn't like stuff to be directly pip installed there, as it may conflict with stuff installed via system packages.

Virtual environment will fix that

[frail hill]

just curious, whose server is that?

i should look into codesnack ig

[rapid acorn]

wdym

[rapid acorn]

can u show me what i need to write pls

[frail hill]

Looks like it is a docker container

[rapid acorn]

yh i think

[last rune]

!venv please read this embed. Whole. It will tell you what venv is, how to make one, and how to activate it (<-unless your IDE activates venv for you later, you'll need to do this step)

[whole gorge]

Virtual environments

Virtual environments are isolated Python environments, which make it easier to keep your system clean and manage dependencies. By default, when activated, only libraries and scripts installed in the virtual environment are accessible, preventing cross-project dependency conflicts, and allowing easy isolation of requirements.

To create a new virtual environment, you can use the standard library venv module: python3 -m venv .venv (replace python3 with python or py on Windows)

Then, to activate the new virtual environment:

Windows (PowerShell): .venv\Scripts\Activate.ps1
or (Command Prompt): .venv\Scripts\activate.bat
MacOS / Linux (Bash): source .venv/bin/activate

Packages can then be installed to the virtual environment using pip, as normal.

For more information, take a read of the documentation. If you run code through your editor, check its documentation on how to make it use your virtual environment. For example, see the VSCode or PyCharm docs.

Tools such as poetry and pipenv can manage the creation of virtual environments as well as project dependencies, making packaging and installing your project easier.

Note: When using PowerShell in Windows, you may need to change the execution policy first. This is only required once per user:

Set-ExecutionPolicy -ExecutionPolicy RemoteSigned -Scope CurrentUser

[frail hill]

dammit

[rapid acorn]

and when i will do it one time, i will have to do it again when i restart my app?

[last rune]

Venv will be already created, only activating it will be required.
Unless you add sourcing the venv into .bashrc or whatever shell you're using

[frail hill]

/FKmzpuqUnZ
(bot keeps removing my link 😭)

[rapid acorn]

i can delete this or not ?

[last rune]

Good thing it's removing it. Ask in @cerulean seal to whitelist it as related to programming and official :x

[rapid acorn]

@last rune when i want to activate it doesn’t work

[vapid ocean]

what error do you get

[rapid acorn]

i think i dont write the right thing

can u copy what i have to write

[vapid ocean]

your code is fine

aside from the fact that you havent put in a token

but what is your error

and what are the warnings when you use decorators

[rapid acorn]

show me how to activate the .venv

idk how

[vapid ocean]

well you go in your terminal and run .venv\Scripts\activate

[rapid acorn]

ok i try

[vapid ocean]

forward slashes

[vapid ocean]

run ls

[vapid ocean]

yeah you dont have a venv

[rapid acorn]

wtf

[vapid ocean]

if you want one, it's py3 -m venv .venv

[vapid ocean]

that should be right

[vapid ocean]

it's not in ls

[rapid acorn]

i already did python3 -m venv .venv

[rapid acorn]

yh idk why

[vapid ocean]

so it's present in the file structure but not in ls?

[rapid acorn]

yh..

[vapid ocean]

yeah honestly i'd just use global pip and not bother with venv's if they're failing

[rapid acorn]

np

i try again wait

[rapid acorn]

i try with python3 -m venv venv and it work

its same as .venv ?

[vapid ocean]

yeah same thing

[rapid acorn]

ok perfect

[vapid ocean]

wait does ls not list folders prefixed with .

[rapid acorn]

maybe idk

i can try to add a . before venv?

[vapid ocean]

wait

ls -a will list all files including hidden files (files with names beginning with a dot)

run that and i'm guessing .venv will be there

[rapid acorn]

wait

[vapid ocean]

lmk what you see

[rapid acorn]

yes i see it look

[vapid ocean]

ok remove it then

rmdir .venv

[rapid acorn]

i let the venv?

[vapid ocean]

?

[rapid acorn]

i remove only .venv or venv

[vapid ocean]

wait can you activate .venv

cuz i'd keep .venv

try .venv/Scripts/activate.sh

[rapid acorn]

no

i can retry

[vapid ocean]

edits

[rapid acorn]

ok

dont work

[vapid ocean]

show error

[rapid acorn]

i can try with the other

[rapid acorn]

no such file or directory

[vapid ocean]

hold on lemme try this

does it work with normal venv

[rapid acorn]

same error…

[vapid ocean]

wait there IS no sh

[rapid acorn]

?

wdym

[vapid ocean]

➜ ls
 activate           activate.bat       activate.fish     󰞷 Activate.ps1       deactivate.bat
󰣆 pip.exe           󰣆 pip3.13.exe       󰣆 pip3.exe          󰣆 python.exe        󰣆 pythonw.exe

my ls got me this

there's activate, activate.bat, activate.fish and Activate.ps1

OH

its completely different on linux

[rapid acorn]

lol np

wait

[vapid ocean]

@rapid acorn it's .venv/bin/activate

[rapid acorn]

i maybe found

[rapid acorn]

yes

[vapid ocean]

i assumed they were the same mb

you can rmdir venv then

[rapid acorn]

i do with .venv or venv

[rapid acorn]

not ure fault :)

[vapid ocean]

remove venv, keep .venv

[rapid acorn]

i tried with both

[vapid ocean]

wtf

oh run . .venv/bin/activate

(or source instead of .)

[rapid acorn]

ok wait

it work ?

[last rune]

Because dot-starting files are "hidden files". ls -A to see those

[vapid ocean]

yep works perfectly

[vapid ocean]

(read lower)

[last rune]

This is not Windows. Source the file

[rapid acorn]

now i do pip install discord.py?

[vapid ocean]

(read lower)

[vapid ocean]

yup

[last rune]

And THAT is why I said to read whole embed carefully. The activation here is clearly separated by Windows vs Linux

[rapid acorn]

why i have this

[vapid ocean]

you installed it, right?

[rapid acorn]

yes

[vapid ocean]

nicky would i be right in saying his editor is pointing to the wrong python instance

[last rune]

Probably

[rapid acorn]

it worksss

but i have the warning next to @

idk why

[last rune]

Browse settings. Somewhere in project settings there should be something about interpreter - make it point to python inside the venv

That way IDE will know which python's libs to check for hints like that

[rapid acorn]

python3 app.py

what i need to change for run the code

[last rune]

That's not related to what I said

[rapid acorn]

yh i know

[whole gorge]

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