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@velvet token

[sinful violet]

@dire pasture

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[velvet token]

so what does ur vsc window look like can ya share

[dire pasture]

is something wrong with it

it seems to be workin fine now

i was trying to follow this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5KVEU3aaeQ&ab_channel=ProgrammingwithMosh

[velvet token]

nah

just gotta share 2 things

1. the lil tab at the top

if u type something inside file

u should see a lil white ball like one i drew

that indicates that file has unsaved changes

2. the lil thing at bottom right, thats ur interpreter if u click it u can change/view wat it is

[dire pasture]

oh so ill have to save it everytime i use a command

[velvet token]

thats important when u doing stuff with pip or watever

[velvet token]

any change u make u should save if u want it to apply next time u run file

yes

[dire pasture]

got it

how do i get rid of it now

oh i jus had to click it

if i hide somethin how do i unhide it again

i hid the botto right bar

bottom

[velvet token]

u mean the terminal ?

[dire pasture]

yup

[velvet token]

ctrl shift `

ctrl shift `

[dire pasture]

wait mybad ididnt mean the terminal

i meant the 3.13

32 bit

do u think this is a good course for beginners?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5KVEU3aaeQ&ab_channel=ProgrammingwithMosh

what should i do after this in your opinion

[velvet token]

i dont like yt videos as courses cause they cant force u to practice alongside them

and also >90% of them are shit

[dire pasture]

oh

what do u suggest

[velvet token]

there is some good material on yt tho

[dire pasture]

i tried

[velvet token]

rare but exists

[dire pasture]

Codecademy

[velvet token]

are u trying to learn how to code or learn python

[dire pasture]

im trying to learn to code

well im not sure

[velvet token]

https://pll.harvard.edu/course/cs50-introduction-computer-science

if u not sure then learn how to code before deciding wether or not u getting into python

and for wat reason

[dire pasture]

ill start college this year in couple months and thought to major cs so just wanted a head start

[velvet token]

in that case what i sent is prob best

a lot of universities dont do python for cs major

most do c/c++

some even do java

[dire pasture]

oh

[velvet token]

there are a few that do python

[dire pasture]

i heard python is good for machine learning/ai which seems interesting so ithought it would be a good start

[velvet token]

but ye tl;dr learn to code, then u can adapt to any language u might need

[dire pasture]

ill follow cs50 if u say so

[velvet token]

in my case i can code in c/c++/c#/python/java/lua or watever not cause i know those languages but cause ik programming so learning a language just a matter of syntax

althought mainly i progran in python so ig i can be considered a python dev ?

[dire pasture]

what ur tryin to say is i shouldlearn how to code first than try different languages

[dire pasture]

thats cool

[velvet token]

learn how to code then figure out what u want to do with code then pick language from there

[green venture]

the hardest part of programming isn't the words, it's the ideas

[dire pasture]

i read my college curriculum they do have python in it

[green venture]

I know english pretty well, but that doesn't mean I can just whip up a great novel

[dire pasture]

i understand what yall mean

[green venture]

learning how to be a good writer is a separate skill from learning the language

[dire pasture]

ididnt really know where to start thats why i just though it would be a good option to learn python

[green venture]

python is a good place to start because it has simple syntax

[dire pasture]

but ill follow cs50 from now on

[green venture]

which lets you focus more on the programming concepts and not get bogged down by the language

[dire pasture]

yeah java and c++ seemed a little harder

[green venture]

but then they would be easier to learn once you have programming fundamentals

[dire pasture]

yup exactly why ishould learn how to code first

it makes sense

[green venture]

all languages are going to have concepts like variables, loops, functions, etc

they just implement them in their own way

[dire pasture]

so what difference do they have except the syntax

[green venture]

mostly it's about level of control

[icy lotus]

Some language have feature that other doesn't have, which make something take more step to make in other languages than this and vice versa

[green venture]

C++ requires you to manage your own memory, which is great for optimizing if you understand it

[velvet token]

the big ones are syntax/features

[icy lotus]

But it would have basic that you should able to do the thing you needed

The feature is just an attempt to make your life easier in some part

[dire pasture]

so for different projects different languages could be more suitable for it

[green venture]

yeah

[icy lotus]

Yes

[dire pasture]

cooll

[green venture]

for example, python isn't really meant to be used for compiled executables

but that doesn't mean it isn't useful

[dire pasture]

what is it used for

the most common uses atleast

[green venture]

data science is a big one

[velvet token]

there are projects that use like 5+ different languages as well

[dire pasture]

i jus find it interesting cos i find machine learning interesting and it seems easy haha

[icy lotus]

Server side code

[dire pasture]

thats insane

[green venture]

machine learning is not easy

just because python is easy and it does machine learning, doesn't mean that it's easy

[dire pasture]

yeah it prolly isnt i was talking about pyython tho from the looks of it

[icy lotus]

html, css, js, ts, python?

[green venture]

I use python for game development

but not for actual gameplay features

[velvet token]

take gcc for example

[icy lotus]

Oh well

[velvet token]

there is other projects that arent as hyperspecific as gcc who needs to support multiple languages but still use multiple languages tho

[dire pasture]

so according do yall CS50 would be the best for me rn

to*

[green venture]

Everyone is different. That would be a good place to start, but if you're not liking it, feel free to try other resources

[icy lotus]

gcc have gcc machine description is funny

[velvet token]

!res <- for the aforementioned other resources

[sinful violet]

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[dire pasture]

ill give it a shot!

[green venture]

asking questions is important too. If you're not understanding a concept, do a bit of research and if you still feel stuck, come here and ask questions

[dire pasture]

i kinda have a better direction now i was very confused before thanks alot

[dire pasture]

iwll it always help

[sinful violet]

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