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[prisma crypt]

hey

it was for me

[simple widget]

Hey eivl

[prisma crypt]

post the code again for reference

[simple widget]

Okay

[simple widget]

def game_is_over:
    if (1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 !=  ' '):
        print('game finished')
    if [[1 and 2 and 3 == 'x' ] or [1 and 4 and 7 == 'x'] or [2 and 5 and 8 == 'x'] or [3 and 6 and 9 == 'x'] or [4 and 5 and 6 == 'x'] or [7 and 8 and 9== 'x'] or [1 and 5 and 9 == 'x'] [3 and 5 and 7 == 'x']]:
         print('x won')

Here is it

[prisma crypt]

thanks. lets start from the beginning

lets say you want to check if one thing is true or false

[simple widget]

Okay

[prisma crypt]

if 'hello' == 'world':
    print('hello is equal to world, this must be wrong')
else:
    print('the two strings are not equal')

we can do something like this

[simple widget]

Yes

[prisma crypt]

what is wrong with this check?

[simple widget]

Nothing

[prisma crypt]

does it work?

[simple widget]

It will print the two stribgs are not equal

[prisma crypt]

so it will never be True

[simple widget]

Hm

[simple widget]

Yessssss man

[prisma crypt]

so the if check does nothing

[simple widget]

Nah

[prisma crypt]

the point of an if check is for it to be either True or False depending on the situation

[simple widget]

Hm

[prisma crypt]

i could just replace all those lines of code with this

print('the two strings are not equal')

[simple widget]

Hm

[acoustic needle]

hey
the 1st if statement seems logically incorrect

when you do

if 'hi' and 'hello'=='hello'
    print('False')

it will print true

please fix that

[simple widget]

Yeah i studied it todaybso sorry man

[prisma crypt]

we are talking about this here for a reason

[feral flower]

xd

[prisma crypt]

so does Hm mean yes?

im still waiting for a real resonse @simple widget

[simple widget]

Yes

[prisma crypt]

i see.. lets continue

if you compare a number with a string, would that number ever be equal to a string?

[simple widget]

I think its not possible

[prisma crypt]

i would agree

[simple widget]

It will provide u a error

[prisma crypt]

3 == 'x' so what does this mean?

3 will never be equal to the string 'x'

[simple widget]

Yeah a error

Syntax error

[prisma crypt]

no i mean, what do you mean by that?

[prisma crypt]

no, its just False

[simple widget]

Yes

[simple widget]

Its false yeah

[prisma crypt]

so what did you mean by this? what do you want that check to do?

[simple widget]

My mind had been blown

Its illogical thing man

Who can think like this

[prisma crypt]

you are pointing to eivl and Starman and expecting the two names to be equal

[simple widget]

They both are not equal it will return u a false

[prisma crypt]

your function is called game over, so im guessing it checks some game state

[prisma crypt]

but they will never be equal, they cannot be, so the check is pointless

[simple widget]

Yess i sm building tic tac toe

[prisma crypt]

and what does the numbers mean?

[simple widget]

Position

There are s grid of 3 by 3

[prisma crypt]

but they are not position, they are just numbers

[simple widget]

So it hsve 9 squares

[simple widget]

Yes

[prisma crypt]

so the numbers will never be strings

[simple widget]

Yes

[prisma crypt]

you need variables that change if you want to check if that variable has a value or not

[simple widget]

Ah finaaly man

Thank u so much now i got what i was tryinh to do and what is happeing there

[feral flower]

eivl

what is a one way trip in python?

[prisma crypt]

this is a help session, you can ask me about things later

[feral flower]

ok

[prisma crypt]

if you used variables instead, this code would still not work 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 != ' '

you are only doing one equality check here

[simple widget]

Ah i forgotten these things i was in my imaginary world

[prisma crypt]

and that is 9 != ' '

!or-gotcha

[patent relic]

The or-gotcha

When checking if something is equal to one thing or another, you might think that this is possible:

# Incorrect...
if favorite_fruit == 'grapefruit' or 'lemon':
    print("That's a weird favorite fruit to have.")

While this makes sense in English, it may not behave the way you would expect. In Python, you should have complete instructions on both sides of the logical operator.

So, if you want to check if something is equal to one thing or another, there are two common ways:

# Like this...
if favorite_fruit == 'grapefruit' or favorite_fruit == 'lemon':
    print("That's a weird favorite fruit to have.")

# ...or like this.
if favorite_fruit in ('grapefruit', 'lemon'):
    print("That's a weird favorite fruit to have.")

[prisma crypt]

favorite_fruit == 'grapefruit' or 'lemon' is incorrect

favorite_fruit == 'grapefruit' or favorite_fruit == 'lemon' is correct

see the difference?

[simple widget]

Okay u were told me this for first if statement

[simple widget]

Got it msn but i hsvr s query

[prisma crypt]

ask away

[simple widget]

I got it this that i was doing illogical code but i dont know how can i make the position , those are just numbers

[prisma crypt]

how do you store the game board state?

[simple widget]

I had been not did it yet i just use for loop to create a table

[prisma crypt]

show me the table

a list is a perfect way to store your game board state

thats what i would use

[simple widget]

print('its a tic tac toe')

for i in range(3):
    print('_______|' *3)

Here it is

[prisma crypt]

you are missing a way to store the game state, what is your plan to do that?

game state just means where all the X and O are located

[simple widget]

How can i store them

[prisma crypt]

there are many ways, what was your plan?

[simple widget]

How to chage user im tic tac toe i am foinh like this but it is not a good way

print('its a tic tac toe')

def changeuser():
    if user == 'X':
        user =='0'
    elif user == '0':
        user=='X'

Btw This was my function to change user

[prisma crypt]

i see.. but how are you going to store the board?

[simple widget]

Honestly i had not any idea to store them

[prisma crypt]

i ask because that is the only important detail of this

[prisma crypt]

what are your options?

could you use a string?

[simple widget]

Hm

[simple widget]

My plan was to ask the user for column and row and print that

Just

[prisma crypt]

well, do you know a datastructure that lets you access rows and columns?

[simple widget]

Nah

[prisma crypt]

so what are your options?

you must use one that you know

i cant just recommend you something unfamiliar and hard

[simple widget]

Rows and columns

[feral flower]

you can use for loops?

[prisma crypt]

but lets think about my question above, could you use a string?

[simple widget]

For loop

?

[prisma crypt]

to be honest, you can use any datatype, but lets unpack this a bit

[simple widget]

Okay unpack it

[prisma crypt]

i have asked you one question twice now

[simple widget]

What was that question string

[prisma crypt]

could you use a string to store the game data?

[simple widget]

This one

[prisma crypt]

yes

[simple widget]

Can i use list

[prisma crypt]

i would argue that you should use a list

and not use a STRING

strings are immutable, and lists are mutable

do you know what those words mean?

[simple widget]

Yeah

Change

[prisma crypt]

yes

the game will change every round

[simple widget]

We can make change

[prisma crypt]

so you should store your game state in a datatype that can change

a list is perfect for that

is you make one list, you would not be able to get row and columns

[simple widget]

Datatyoe mesnsnfor loop?

[prisma crypt]

how could you make rows and columns using lists?

[simple widget]

Um.....

[prisma crypt]

no, datatype is int str list float tuple and so on

[simple widget]

Ah

[prisma crypt]

it is the type of the data you want to store

the number one can be written 1 1.0 '1'

same numer, differnt datatype

[simple widget]

Hm

[prisma crypt]

so, if you want to use rows and columns, how can you do that?

[simple widget]

Cam i use fumctions of list

Indexing

[prisma crypt]

ofc, thats why you use lists, because they have behaviour you can use

['', '', '', '', '', '', '', '', ''] you can have one list

but this does not give you row and columns

it gives you index 0-9

[simple widget]

Hm then how can i get

Hm

[prisma crypt]

could you use more then one list?

[simple widget]

So this list should have a variable

[prisma crypt]

each row could be a list of its own maybe

maybe like this?

[simple widget]

More than one yed

[prisma crypt]

board[0][0] would be the first row and first position in that row

dont get sidetracked

how would you assign 'X' to the middle possition in this board?

[simple widget]

Ok

[simple widget]

board[1][1]

[prisma crypt]

indexing starts at 0

[simple widget]

Sorry man

[simple widget]

Is it right now?

[prisma crypt]

yes,. no worries. so board[1][1] = 'X' would assign the middle possition

[['', '', ''],
 ['', 'X', ''],
 ['', '', '']]

so if you use lists to save the possitions of your game you can do all the checks you need

do you have enough info to continue ?

[simple widget]

Ok now my game had been complted

[simple widget]

I got it man

[prisma crypt]

great

[simple widget]

Thanks a lot man

[prisma crypt]

my pleasure

[simple widget]

I appreciate your work

[prisma crypt]

close this channel once you are done with it!

[simple widget]

Ok i will create it in 2 to 3 hours

And will close it

[merry zephyr]

Oh btw

You should not check each position manually

You should do it automatically with a loop

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