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mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:20 AM

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for some reason LinuxMint does not come with Tkinter so I always have to run:

sudo apt-get install python3-tk

in order to get Tkinter on Linux Mint (and I indeed can run Tkinter apps from my Terminal)

With that being said, now I'm not only using VSCode (which installs its own interpreters) but it's Flatpak Version so I'm stumped.

With a flatpak, the point is to sandbox the software so wouldn't choosing a system interpreter be the opposite of what I would want to do?

If so, how do I install Tkinter to a interpreter that is built-in to VSCode if its not available on pip? or is it? I'm lost.

topaz widgetBOT Mar 25, 2024, 5:20 AM

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mint spire for some reason LinuxMint does not come with Tkinter so I always have to run: ``...

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glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:23 AM

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mint spire for some reason LinuxMint does not come with Tkinter so I always have to run: ``...

VSCode (which installs its own interpreters)
it doesn't

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it uses any available interpreters it finds

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:23 AM

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when i added the Python extension, it shows a Python 3.11 version.. i dont have 3.11 on my computer so I had to have gotten it from VSCode

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supposedly if you run this command:

 ls /usr/bin/python*

you can see all of your python installations?

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this is what I have:

/usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python3.10-config /usr/bin/python3-qr
/usr/bin/python3.10 /usr/bin/python3-config

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:25 AM

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mint spire supposedly if you run this command: ```bash ls /usr/bin/python* ``` you can s...

yeah

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that is your system python

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:26 AM

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yeah see so I don't have 3.11

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but its in VSCode

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:26 AM

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mint spire but its in VSCode

you're probably talking about pylance

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:26 AM

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glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:27 AM

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mint spire

that's interesting, you have 3.11.8 at /bin

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never seen that before

fast stirrup Mar 25, 2024, 5:28 AM

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Doesn't seem that isolated to me

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:28 AM

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ikr

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Microsoft spooks me

fast stirrup Mar 25, 2024, 5:29 AM

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You could use the 'enter interpreter path'?

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:30 AM

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hm yeah maybe.. which path should i try

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:30 AM

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back to your original question, if that's actually a new python installation then it should already come with tkinter

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tkinter doesn't come with system pythons since it's usually unnecessary

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:31 AM

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im just assuming its a new python installation.. because i definitely dont have 3.11 on my computer

fast stirrup Mar 25, 2024, 5:31 AM

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Why not?

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Oh

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3.12?

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:31 AM

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no i just use whatever comes with the OS

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it came with 3 and 3.10

fast stirrup Mar 25, 2024, 5:32 AM

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Interesting

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:33 AM

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this is from using:

/usr/bin/python3.10

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:34 AM

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mint spire this is from using: ```bash /usr/bin/python3.10 ```

yeah idk what's going on here, here's what my vscode shows for python interpreters

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it shows my system python and the interpreters i installed using pyenv

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:35 AM

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how'd you manage to get 3.9

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pyenv? from the terminal in vscode?

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:35 AM

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mint spire how'd you manage to get 3.9

i use a python version manager called pyenv that allows me to install any version of python i want

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it's a shell program

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:36 AM

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hm if i installed that would i install it from within my flatpak'd vscode?

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if i created a virtual env.. i dont even know if i would choose a path inside the vscode's directory or my own path in /home

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:39 AM

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mint spire hm if i installed that would i install it from within my flatpak'd vscode?

interpreters installed using pyenv are stored in your home directory and vscode should be able to locate them by default
although if you do decide to use pyenv then be aware that it actually compiles the python interpreter from source so you'll need to install all of python's build dependencies first, which can easily be done through apt-get

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:39 AM

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not that i can install tkinter to it but still

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Enter a command: sudo apt-get update
Ign:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com virginia InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security InRelease
Hit:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy InRelease
Hit:4 http://packages.linuxmint.com virginia Release
Hit:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates InRelease
Hit:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-backports InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Enter a command: sudo apt-get search pyenv
E: Invalid operation search
Enter a command:

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glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:43 AM

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mint spire Enter a command: sudo apt-get update Ign:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com virgini...

oh i forgot to tell you, you don't install pyenv through apt

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https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv

GitHub

GitHub - pyenv/pyenv: Simple Python version management

Simple Python version management. Contribute to pyenv/pyenv development by creating an account on GitHub.

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:44 AM

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ah ok

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:44 AM

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mint spire ah ok

curl https://pyenv.run | bash

they provide an installer script

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you also need to install necessary build dependencies

sudo apt install build-essential libssl-dev zlib1g-dev \
libbz2-dev libreadline-dev libsqlite3-dev curl \
libncursesw5-dev xz-utils tk-dev libxml2-dev libxmlsec1-dev libffi-dev liblzma-dev

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 5:49 AM

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im not all that familiar with flatpak, but according to their github you can apparently get additional tools into its environment using SDK extensions
https://github.com/flathub/com.visualstudio.code/blob/master/flatpak-warning.txt#L31-L42
whether there's an SDK for python that includes tkinter, im not sure

topaz widgetBOT Mar 25, 2024, 5:49 AM

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flatpak-warning.txt lines 31 to 42

This Flatpak provides a standard development environment (gcc, python, etc).
To see what's available:

  $ flatpak run --command=sh com.visualstudio.code
  $ ls /usr/bin (shared runtime)
  $ ls /app/bin (bundled with this flatpak)

To get support for additional languages or tools within the Flatpak, you have to install SDK extensions, e.g.

  $ flatpak install flathub org.freedesktop.Sdk.Extension.dotnet
  $ flatpak install flathub org.freedesktop.Sdk.Extension.golang
  $ FLATPAK_ENABLE_SDK_EXT=dotnet,golang flatpak run com.visualstudio.code```

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:52 AM

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idk, i'm not a fant of installing stuff outside of the repository

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-t

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i'm trying to ask in the linux mint irc but idk if i'll get a response tonight

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:56 AM

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topaz widget `flatpak-warning.txt` lines 31 to 42 ```txt This Flatpak provides a standard dev...

today i learned

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:57 AM

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mint spire idk, i'm not a fant of installing stuff outside of the repository

why not install vscode from the .deb? it's perfectly safe

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:57 AM

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i literally just had my google account compromised 3 days ago so i'm kinda sketched out

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took a hammer to my phone last night because even after factory reset i still had malware in it.. i dont want to go down that path anymore

glass pollen Mar 25, 2024, 5:59 AM

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mint spire i literally just had my google account compromised 3 days ago so i'm kinda sketc...

yikes sorry that happened to you, but i don't think i can help anymore with the flatpak version of vscode as i don't use it

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 5:59 AM

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its all good ty for your help.. i'll probably use the .deb version because i dont have any choice really

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either that or give up Tkinter all together and maybe go pygtk?

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kind of sad though because i've put years into learning Tkinter and haven't even made anything out of it really

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 6:05 AM

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i havent done much GUI work outside of some tkinter recently, but if you're curious, the project i recently worked on was a kind-of-an-IRC application using my own network protocol, and i went with tkinter for the client GUI

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i was more interested in the networking and code architecture so i didnt put too much effort into making the GUI look outstanding

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:07 AM

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you did good imo.. its clean and works.. thats about all I'm really good for tbh

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wrap='none' on your big text widget on the right maybe? so you dont have to deal with that horizontal scrollbar

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idk

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err actually other way around lol not none

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wrap='word'

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in order to colorize people's names and other stuff in your text widget, you need to create like tags

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 6:15 AM

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there's a minimum length of 800, if the window was bigger itll autowrap to match the window size

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and im using labels nested in a frame nested in a canvas rather than a text widget

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:18 AM

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if it were me, i would give the left side with your listbox a fixed width but the right half just not provide a width.. just use a relative width.. then you dont have to worry about determining what the user's resolution is.. and it'll grow when they maximize the window anyway

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because a text widget has a fixed size by default anyway

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:19 AM

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regal wing and im using labels nested in a frame nested in a canvas rather than a text widg...

ah ok

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like a scrolled window

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so you're kinda stuck with choosing a width then

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well maybe whenever you insert the people's chat messages, you could programatically choose your width from there

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canvas.winfo_width()

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 6:22 AM

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yup, it does that with a minimum of 800px

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perhaps i could lower it but i dont want to excessively break up the content

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:23 AM

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the people's names are 1 label and the messages are another label?

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and which layout manager are you using

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someone said in the conversation of that picture "why does tkinter look so bad".. but it doesn't have to look bad if you use images

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and making your own widgets ofc

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 6:26 AM

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the structure is essentially: ChatFrame ├── ChannelList ├── SendBox └── MessageList └── ScrollableFrame └── Canvas └── Frame (inner) ├── MessageView │ ├── Label (nick) │ └── Label (content) └── ... and everything is laid out with grid (besides the inner frame)

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:31 AM

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what is this messageview widget.. is it a treeview?

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custom widget? maybe another module?

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if it was Treeview, that's what i would go with

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then your names and messages are lined up

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81 degrees in my room and my floor heater is set to 70

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 6:34 AM

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just a frame

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i like that they're not lined up

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:35 AM

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ah so you have a frame in a frame

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i would put the entire thing in a paned window and then you could collapse the left if you wanted to.. not necessary but just an idea

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panedwindow
    leftframe
        listbox
        vertical scrollbar
    rightframe
        treeframe
            treeview
            vertical scrollbar
        messageframe
            entry
            submitbutton

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 6:44 AM

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ye thats seems like a fair design

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i think the last time i used a panedwindow, the sash between the panes wouldnt show up so i couldnt resize it

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 6:45 AM

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sashwidth='10'

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sashrelief='groove'

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 7:10 AM

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huh, it seems to work fine now...

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 7:10 AM

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no run button in my VSCode by default =\

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 7:10 AM

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yeah, that comes with the python extension

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 7:12 AM

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yea i already installed it and selected interpreter

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lol button shows up when i screenshot it

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i guess i had to threaten it with a screenshot

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we have success

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oh wow now i know why the run button wasn't there.. when I click onto the left window.. the "Welcome" window, it goes away

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 7:25 AM

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oh huh, you're right, the buttons only show for whichever tab you're focused on

mint spire Mar 25, 2024, 7:26 AM

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doesn't take much to confuse me

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lol

signal flint Mar 25, 2024, 7:33 AM

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glass pollen that's interesting, you have `3.11.8` at `/bin`

on most distros /bin is just a symlink to /usr/bin I believe that's the case in debian, and by extension mint

regal wing Mar 25, 2024, 7:35 AM

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signal flint on most distros `/bin` is just a symlink to `/usr/bin` I believe that's the case...

supposedly they are actually separate directories:
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/blog/classic-sysadmin-the-linux-filesystem-explained

But many modern Linux distributions just put everything into /usr/bin and have /bin point to /usr/bin just in case erasing it completely would break something. So, while Debian, Ubuntu and Mint still keep /bin and /usr/bin (and /sbin and /usr/sbin) separate; others, like Arch and its derivatives just have one “real” directory for binaries, /usr/bin, and the rest or *bins are “fake” directories that point to /usr/bin.

signal flint Mar 25, 2024, 7:36 AM

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regal wing supposedly they are actually separate directories: <https://www.linuxfoundation....

huh, guess I misremembered stuff, but symlinking is the posix standard afaik

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