voice-chat-text-1

[thin lintel]

you don't know the situation

[slim hatch]

how so Milien?

[thin lintel]

more complicated

[slim hatch]

I’m agreeing with her if that’s not clear in my message, not sure if you disagree with his wife

“mood” is a way to say “I feel that” in a modern way but I guess it is kinda dumb/confusing, now that I’m thinking about the actual definition of mood

[modern grotto]

so what do you think about python 3.15

3.14

[delicate wren]

I got Pixel 8 because slightly more open OS compared to other Androids

(and Pixel 9 was a bit too expensive)

[slim hatch]

not sure how political of a question this is but I heard that Apple is like, pretty bad to buy in Russia because they enforce censorship/remove VPNs

does that sound accurate to you yuya or more overblown?

trying to find reasons to convince my family not to buy Apple phones in a month

[delicate wren]

most App store apps are paid and you can't buy them in Russia

so it's dubious to buy anyway

[slim hatch]

gotcha

[delicate wren]

macOS stuff should be fine

to me, putting food into water actually sounds more like something plant-eating animals would do
(like to make it edible at all, when plants are dry)

@thin lintel "except Chihuahuas, those hate everything"

[next spoke]

lmao

[delicate wren]

❌ "cleaning up broken input set"
✅ "data nurse"

[shell mural]

Are you Portugese ? @slim hatch

[delicate wren]

ceremoniality

[slim hatch]

american-native but I'm fluent in PT!

[shell mural]

Oh, ok great ^^

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-gif-17093263173337631154

At the moment, I tested Stable diffusion turbo ! I love this generator Photo IA

[delicate wren]

(yes, the only dictionary listing this word is OED and it lists it as obsolete/rarely used)

[shell mural]

picture excuse me mdr

[delicate wren]

seemingly not, still an open model

they just want to see the world burn

stable diffusion brought actually nothing positive to the world

like LLMs are not as bad, even

ThielGPT

[delicate wren]

the only use case that is potentially okay is generating training data for smaller recognition models from a way larger diffusion model

but that is, like, internal corporate stuff

everything public and productised is just plainly making the world worse

(in the context of image/video generation)

[delicate wren]

(I haven't seen anyone claim to do this yet)

only heard similar things in the context of natural language processing

where they train big models with small data set, then generate bigger data set and train small models with that

"more data => faster learning" somehow

[delicate wren]

the learning results are better (more aligned with the input), if you do that intermediate step of inflating the data set

recognition and predictive models are clearly net positive for businesses overall, unlike generative AI,
but one still needs to be careful about their applicability (AI is biased by design)

diffusion: image, text -> image
recognition: image -> text

stable diffusion is a description-guided noise remover

[misty sinew]

yo guys wasup

[delicate wren]

so technically each step there is more like:
image, text, % noisiness -> image

1-(how much information is preserved)

or something similar

like you gradually add noise to an image, and train the model to invert each such step

Yuya or AF (global display name remains unchanged)

[delicate wren]

previous to that, models were trained through some sort of adversarial pairing where one was trying to fake a real image, and another was trying to detect whether it's fake

kind of

[cinder grail]

wt ??

[delicate wren]

it's one of the attempted ways to do generation

[arctic dirge]

what we talking about

[delicate wren]

however I think there was something more realistic prior to diffusion

[delicate wren]

like not as knuckleheaded as this approach where you kind of just hope it works somehow

@arctic dirge the interesting question there was:
can you enhance training of recognition models using diffusion models?

by inflating the training data

I know they do it to LLMs

@arctic dirge iirc you were trying to do it without involving LLMs? or, like, without big pre-trained ones

I might be misremembering

[cinder grail]

@arctic dirge you sound like you just hate your job

[delicate wren]

since that challenge is kind of not entirely textual

[cinder grail]

oh cool

[delicate wren]

afterwards you can convince investors to give you even more money

couldn't reproduce the paper
someone vibe-TeXed the paper

SchönGPT

based on whom would they even learn that

you have to outperform humans to be viable

pick the right humans to compare to

Grok already intellectually outperforms an average Twitter user and the platform owner

combine LLMs with TLA+/Dafny

"this code is bad, but here's also a formal proof of how bad it is"

[cinder grail]

if we think about it google has a lot of data why cant they make gemini better ?

[delicate wren]

vibe-onomics

@arctic dirge so, Larry Ellison 2?

let a central AI decide everything: neurocommunism

it's, like, a typical average normal bubble, not, like, 100% delusion bubble

it becomes a bubble retroactively if/when it bursts

(however we can't rule out a possibility of it going out of fashion slowly instead)

what DB did it use?

MongoDB?

WEB SCALE

both should be in containers, but, yeah, sounds relatively sane

I have a bot which is spread over, like, 4 separate containers

[arctic dirge]

sharded guilds u mean

[delicate wren]

(microserviced not sharded)

[calm tusk]

@umbral rose gimme screenshare

[delicate wren]

@calm tusk Hemlock is no longer the Voice Lead

[split aurora]

😂

[delicate wren]

Mindful is now the Voice Lord

[calm tusk]

@mild flume

what happened

why you get demoted

🙁

@umbral rose how dare you demote hemmy

[delicate wren]

there's a high probability that Chris will literally just ignore these pings

oh, wait, I though I started doing bots in December of 2017

turns out, no, it was October

I think I remember times before Cogs

I had to invent/figure out live-reload modularity myself

[arctic dirge]

yeah for sure ...remember red bot

[cinder grail]

what do you guys think about n8n

[delicate wren]

(<2 months after using Python for the first time)

[split aurora]

it's amazing

[delicate wren]

tf's a n8n

[split aurora]

ai agents and automation platform

[cinder grail]

drag and drop

[delicate wren]

their website's scroll is slightly buggy

I did something and it broke

[split aurora]

you could do that on the local machine or a server that's great for automation

[delicate wren]

🚀🚀🚀

[arctic dirge]

i just use zapier...is n8n free?

[split aurora]

you'll have to do that on your local host

it's like available for 14 days or so

on cloud

[delicate wren]

is the AI running during the workflow or just generating the workflow code?

because if it's the former, that is uneconomical and unreliable

[split aurora]

yeah you could integrate multiple agents, give them tools or any access you want for building the workflow

[delicate wren]

AI running in a ground hog day seeing errors over and over again

having to do the same thing but slightly differently

[split aurora]

yeah

[delicate wren]

using AI for code de-duplication is potentially useful I guess?

we already have a lot of code duplication in the wild

and AI is basically just that but amplified

[split aurora]

it's not only ai you could automate your computer with it as well....

do a http call

webhooks or anything plus llm

[delicate wren]

and potentially for finding guesses of code provenance

[split aurora]

no code way

[cinder grail]

yeah it is really easy create chatbot and all

[split aurora]

fr

[cinder grail]

with n8n

[delicate wren]

chatbots are using humans to self-replicate

actual parasitic organisms

[split aurora]

it's great for someone to explore apis and all and see it working and gain a bigger picture n8n is definately a good tool

[slim hatch]

it is really funny to think about how torturous some of the things we ask AI would be if you looked at it like as if it was an actual conscious being

[delicate wren]

lazygit vibegit

[arctic dirge]

vibe-rator

[arctic dirge]

totally innocent

[delicate wren]

$200/month doesn't sound like that much of a brag

[cinder grail]

$200 just with vibe coding 😢

[cinder grail]

it is bro i am grinding everyday still cant get a single internship

[delicate wren]

grind less, sleep more

will get better results

[cinder grail]

i sleep too

[split aurora]

let' s say we code for fun ✨ and not make anything

[cinder grail]

fun is one thing and money is another

[delicate wren]

when I code "for fun", that does often end up being 20 hour writing sessions

[split aurora]

i think personal projects are waste of time

[delicate wren]

.vibeignore, list of files to hide from an AI agent

[edgy chasm]

is that an actual thing?

[delicate wren]

what do you mean by a personal project?

if you make it to solve a problem you have, it's not a waste of time

[cinder grail]

yeah

[split aurora]

yeah i mean money wise

it takes a lot of time

[edgy chasm]

!paste

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[delicate wren]

I actively utilise results from all big projects I had prior to employment to help me at work

and doing a lot of things that are initially for fun/experiment but then end up being useful there too

but, like, you need some big coherent view of what you do so you can yield benefits from it

this is not normal, as far as I saw

[cinder grail]

yea thats what i hate about ais they add tons of emojies

[edgy chasm]

my teacher literally gave us an assignment generated by AI

every title had an emoji

[delicate wren]

omfg the umbrella is so true for those AI emojis

just WHY

vibe symbolism

☂️ reloading the service

docker-compose restart

[edgy chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/lalalalalala-cat-cuh-cat-cute-cat-lovely-cat-gif-14081580233990812137

[cinder grail]

evertime you get a error you just say please fix it

[delicate wren]

messages designed to hurt

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[delicate wren]

                    except Exception as e:
                        error_message = str(e)

quick quiz: why is this bad

[cinder grail]

that is called errors

[edgy chasm]

“The resont of thas quetion is that it may be diffulct to undestand the exact implimantion of the data, but in general it can be consided as an exmaple of the proces.”

-# (dont ask how i generated this)

[delicate wren]

(answer: ||str(e) is often just ""||)

[cinder grail]

😂

bro is trolling

[split aurora]

erro handling 😂

[edgy chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/say-it-to-my-face-cat-gif-3656044573809066013

[cinder grail]

damnnn

[delicate wren]

(you'd normally do f"{e.__class__.__name__}: {e}" there instead, just in case someone downstack called raise RuntimeError)

[cinder grail]

its not even a code its english

[delicate wren]

it is happening within a loop

for filename in os.listdir(admin_path):

[coarse hearth]

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[delicate wren]

ONE HUNDRED AN TWENTY ONE KILOBYTES?

omg it's so horizontal

ANY($1::bigint[])

[cinder grail]

😂

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[cinder grail]

@calm tusk do you know what git is ?

[split aurora]

i couldn't have build that with this little understanding so that's impressive for me he made it work 👏

[cinder grail]

yea

he is trolling

[delicate wren]

@arctic dirge ban the user?

they can't see their data is corrupted

after that

problem solved

[split aurora]

yeah throw in the error !! 😆

[delicate wren]

business speak, yes

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[delicate wren]

🚀

[split aurora]

Tell GPT to fix it and build a RAG then 😆

[delicate wren]

you don't need to know if it's broken if you're not going to fix it anyway

[cinder grail]

or just use claude

[cinder grail]

exactly

[split aurora]

but he saw the bigger picture and told the ai to build what he needed, that's a good approach....

[delicate wren]

automate the fun part and manualise the tedious part

[split aurora]

did he successfully debug all that

and make it working

🫡

"say yes"

[delicate wren]

True American Dream

"Access is kind of like Excel,
and Postgres is kind of like Access"

[grim valve]

Hello

Guys

I'm finding

[delicate wren]

data swamp

[grim valve]

Some one to talk

[cold delta]

Hiii

[grim valve]

I'm korean

My English is little bad

[delicate wren]

pgadmin

[warm kettle]

???

[grim valve]

I'll try it

[cinder grail]

just gpt it

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[grim valve]

Aaaaaaaa

25 messages to talk

Nooko

Moooo

[delicate wren]

don't spam, won't work

just participate in conversations

[grim valve]

What's

• You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks.
  ?

[grim valve]

What it is meaning?

[delicate wren]

code didn't go through ruff presumably

[grim valve]

ruff

[delicate wren]

yeah, this part is kind of against spamming

so your messages aren't sent all at once

[cold delta]

anyone new to python '?

[delicate wren]

talk to people for ~1.5 hours instead of just focusing on sending many messages

[grim valve]

Okay
.. that's too long haha

[delicate wren]

are you learning Python? or already using it at work/wherever?

[grim valve]

Umm not good at it

I learned it little bit

But not good at it

[split aurora]

where's the backend?

[grim valve]

I like blockcoding 🙂

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[grim valve]

It's 4am in koreaaaaa

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[grim valve]

I'm sleepy

[delicate wren]

didn't you also have an aiohttp server somewhere in there?

[delicate wren]

visual programming?

[cold delta]

whats that

[delicate wren]

kilobyte
kibibyte
🥝byte

[warm kettle]

kiwibyte :D

[grim valve]

Yes

Do you know entry?

[delicate wren]

not sure what that'd mean in this context

what's plain text;
very philosophical question

[split aurora]

yeah

[cinder grail]

Yeah

[delicate wren]

I know way too much to tolerate AI doing anything in terms of code

[cinder grail]

why dont you use copilot

[delicate wren]

(I just end up being disappointed in AI each time)

[cinder grail]

yeah man

[slim hatch]

mood

[cinder grail]

i feel ai is soo overhyped

[delicate wren]

(we talked about this an ~hour ago)

[cinder grail]

yea

ik

[split aurora]

he needs to learn system design a bit and vibe code

[delicate wren]

Authorization: Vibe {}

[coarse hearth]

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[delicate wren]

use FastAPI instead of Flask, ChatGPT will just copy-paste the tutorial

(FastAPI tutorial includes auth)

[delicate wren]

Authorization: Vibe ✨

unhackable

too cringe to hack

for in C is a mistake

[edgy chasm]

for loop?

i have no issues with it :P

[delicate wren]

it's just a slightly different while in C

[edgy chasm]

oh yeah...

[delicate wren]

different mostly in how it handles continue

C++ has a different for variant

[edgy chasm]

yeah for (type var : iter) {}

[delicate wren]

// bad?
for (auto item : collection) {}
// bad but differently?
for (auto&& item : collection) {}
// good?
for (item : collection) {}

[delicate wren]

remove type is the newer guideline iirc

[edgy chasm]

"bad but differently"

didn't know you could do item : collection

[delicate wren]

you almost never should be doing anything other than auto or equivalent there

it can and will fuck up everything so much when you try

for example, try iterating over std::vector<bool>

you can't bool& it

why?

because std::vector<bool> isn't std::vector

[edgy chasm]

huh??!?!?

C++ really is weird after all

[delicate wren]

it just happens to have a similar name

std::vector<bool> is a bitset

[edgy chasm]

to save memory right?

[delicate wren]

yes

at the cost of everything else

[edgy chasm]

yeah that kind of makes sense, but yeah at the cost of everything else

[grim valve]

Korean block coding

playentry.org

[delicate wren]

if you wanted maximal speed instead, it depends on the length and how you access it

std::vector<int> is optimal sometimes iirc

if you do a lot of individual random accesses iirc?

getting a bool out of std::vector<unsigned char> takes extra effort for the CPU

[edgy chasm]

i love Rust's loop {}

[delicate wren]

break value;

I think it's possible to add else to Rust's for and while

you can already emulate that kind of

@arctic dirge AI coding is the opposite of DRY

vibe debuggers when

[edgy chasm]

im the best rust developer

[delicate wren]

@slim hatch @slim depot that's just the way he is, judging from earlier interactions

[grim valve]

I bought nitro rightaway

I feel I'm scamed

I bought light nitro

Bruh

😭

[delicate wren]

@slim depot @slim hatch jokes asides, don't claim to plan to record people, that has historically been insta-voice-ban here

[warm kettle]

for i in range 5:
print(i)

[delicate wren]

||SyntaxError||

[edgy chasm]

for a second there i was like "what syntax error" then i saw it...

range 5

[arctic dirge]

https://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest

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[arctic dirge]

The "Fizz-Buzz test" is an interview question designed to help filter out the 99.5% of programming job candidates who can't seem to program their way out of a wet paper bag. The text of the programming assignment is as follows:

"Write a program that prints the numbers from 1 to 100. But for multiples of three print “Fizz” instead of the number and for the multiples of five print “Buzz”. For numbers which are multiples of both three and five print “FizzBuzz”."

[delicate wren]

the vibechain is fizzing and buzzing

!e

# I'm not sorry
from typing import Callable

def compose(*functions):
    def composed(x):
        for f in reversed(functions):
            x = f(x)
        return x
    return composed

def fizzbuzz(n: int) -> str:
    def test(d: int, s: str) -> Callable[[Callable[[str], str]], Callable[[str], str]]:
        def tmp(x: Callable[[str], str]) -> Callable[[str], str]:
            if n % d:
                return x
            else:
                return lambda _: s + x("")
        return tmp
    return compose(
        test(3, "Fizz"),
        test(5, "Buzz"),
    )(lambda x: x)(str(n))

print(*map(fizzbuzz, range(1, 101)))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1 2 Fizz 4 Buzz Fizz 7 8 Fizz Buzz 11 Fizz 13 14 FizzBuzz 16 17 Fizz 19 Buzz Fizz 22 23 Fizz Buzz 26 Fizz 28 29 FizzBuzz 31 32 Fizz 34 Buzz Fizz 37 38 Fizz Buzz 41 Fizz 43 44 FizzBuzz 46 47 Fizz 49 Buzz Fizz 52 53 Fizz Buzz 56 Fizz 58 59 FizzBuzz 61 62 Fizz 64 Buzz Fizz 67 68 Fizz Buzz 71 Fizz 73 74 FizzBuzz 76 77 Fizz 79 Buzz Fizz 82 83 Fizz Buzz 86 Fizz 88 89 FizzBuzz 91 92 Fizz 94 Buzz Fizz 97 98 Fizz Buzz

[split aurora]

i saw that in the concurrency section in the leetcode ig

[delicate wren]

https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition

[calm tusk]

2025-07-06 23:20:51.625520

+can we change this Missing required argument: duration: str to do an explanation of the command, and modify the error messages involving strings to explain the commands for any command

[delicate wren]

guess what language this is translated from

(not Klingon)

[arctic dirge]

a functional language prolly

[delicate wren]

very specific one

[arctic dirge]

elixir?

[delicate wren]

the classics of fizzbuzzery

[edgy chasm]

is this fizzbuzz:

for i in range(1, 100):
    print(i, end="")
    m3 = i / 3
    m5 = i / 5
    if m3 == round(m3):
        print("Fizz", end="")
    if m5 == round(m5):
        print("Buzz", end="")
    print()

[delicate wren]

https://themonadreader.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/fizzbuzz.pdf

[arctic dirge]

ahh haskell

[edgy chasm]

MULTITHREADED?

[calm tusk]

2025-07-06 22:54:33.074128
+~ban @calm tusk
+Subbot
+APP

• 10:30 PM
• Missing required argument: reason: str lets make it so if you put no reason, it still works, but states no reason given.

2025-07-06 22:55:32.024030

+/architect

2025-07-06 22:56:22.042505

+make the default for ban, no reason given.

2025-07-06 22:58:08.061314

+/ask

2025-07-06 23:20:51.625520

+can we change this Missing required argument: duration: str to do an explanation of the command, and modify the error messages involving strings to explain the commands for any command

[delicate wren]

this is somehow not entirely a joke

[edgy chasm]

oh wait instead of the number... ahhh

[delicate wren]

the way they do processing is useful in other places

[arctic dirge]

writing a DSL for a fizzbuzz seems a bit excessive and funny at the same time!

[delicate wren]

In this tutorial, we ask if we can accomplish
this without having to check the conditions for the previous actions twice; in other
words, if we can make the control flow follow the information flow without loosing
modularity.

you check divisibility only once per each part of the string

[tulip grail]

arent strings the stuff my chicken meat is made from?

[delicate wren]

vibe injection

prompt injections work because AI can't tell instructions and data apart

(at least, that's the common explanation for that)

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[grim valve]

Hey guys

Do you know

[slim hatch]

lmao

[edgy chasm]

i don't

[grim valve]

Do you know any servers that can make free calls?

[arctic dirge]

I'm IN!

hacking noises

[delicate wren]

would that be green matrix beep boop noises or just furious typing

[arctic dirge]

brb, another server is having a paper discussion

[delicate wren]

and now realise stuff like this is regular occurrence

[edgy chasm]

chat is this good fizzbuzz

for i in range(1, 100):
    m3 = i % 3 == 0
    m5 = i % 5 == 0
    if m3 or m5:
        if m3:
            print("Fizz", end="")
        if m5:
            print("Buzz", end="")
    else:
        print(i, end="")
    print()

i both hate and love this

[delicate wren]

too many ifs

[edgy chasm]

theres like 4

[delicate wren]

!e

for i in range(1, 100):
    m3 = i % 3 == 0
    m5 = i % 5 == 0
    if m3:
        print("Fizz", end="")
        i = ""
    if m5:
        print("Buzz", end="")
        i = ""
    print(i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/X5PESJJLMYH2QDR3ZZRXFN42CE

[edgy chasm]

wait i just thought of something

for i in range(1, 101):
    output = ""
    if i % 3 == 0:
        output += "Fizz"
    if i % 5 == 0:
        output += "Buzz"
    print(output or i)

check that out

also idk should 100 be included or

[delicate wren]

should be

[edgy chasm]

yeyeye

bruh theres a fly in my room

!e ```py
for i in range(1, 101):
output = ""
if i % 3 == 0:
output += "Fizz"
if i % 5 == 0:
output += "Buzz"
print(output or i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/Y6Q2VMF4CXBR7QQNTN5HKLWGPY

[delicate wren]

!e

for i in range(1, 101):
    print((i % 3 == 0 and "Fizz") + (i % 5 == 0 and "Buzz") or i)

hmm

doesn't work

!e

for i in range(1, 101):
    print((i % 3 == 0 and "Fizz" or "") + (i % 5 == 0 and "Buzz" or "") or i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NGYSZ2XNH6TCYF5FRRFAKLV7BE

[delicate wren]

ah, wait

[edgy chasm]

how do you just manage to do it in 2 lines ._.

[delicate wren]

!e

for i in range(1, 101):
    print(((i % 3 == 0) * "Fizz") + ((i % 5 == 0) * "Buzz") or i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/QQFRMPWX6J7SSYIUJA6UULC4TU

[edgy chasm]

now you're just flexing 😭

[delicate wren]

!e

for i in range(1, 101):
    print((not i % 3) * "Fizz" + (not i % 5) * "Buzz" or i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/UGYAQAUP4P3XDPNRVFOWKQAJZY

[delicate wren]

ugh idk what to do with that next

[edgy chasm]

hardcode it

[1,2,"Fizz",4,"Buzz", ...]

!e ```py
print("\n".join(map(lambda i: "Fizz"(i%3==0) + "Buzz"(i%5==0) or str(i), range(1, 101))))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/MZIHVO3SMHZ42IQHJ3HG7GIIJA

[edgy chasm]

checkmate.

!e ```py
import('sys').stdout.write('\n'.join(["Fizz"(i%3==0)+"Buzz"(i%5==0) or str(i) for i in range(1,101)])+'\n')

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/RRLDFFPSYGIVND7MKEMMCCKR3A

[edgy chasm]

!e ```py
for i in range(1,101):print((i%3<1)"Fizz"+(i%5<1)"Buzz"or i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/QPLHBAQQ7NKRMWEJV5WIQSNJHA

[delicate wren]

!e

from itertools import cycle
from operator import add
print(*map(max, map(add, cycle(["", "", "Fizz"]), cycle(["", "", "", "", "Buzz"])), map(str, range(1, 101))),sep="\n")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/LZV6L2CO5KGOUHMEX736CU62EE

[edgy chasm]

wait thats fucking genius

[arctic dirge]

!e

print("1\n2\nFizz\n4\nBuzz\nFizz\n7\n8Fizz\n\Buzz\n11")

🙂

[delicate wren]

after 8

something exploded

[arctic dirge]

yeah just noticed lol

[delicate wren]

\Fizz
\Buzz

new escape sequences

[arctic dirge]

lmao

[delicate wren]

!e

print("\N{skull}")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

💀

[delicate wren]

!e

print(*map(max, map(str.__add__, ["", "", "Fizz"] * 100, ["", "", "", "", "Buzz"] * 100), map(str, range(1, 101))), sep="\n")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ZC36JF7QGTT4J745OSY6RQYHGE

[delicate wren]

no need to import somewhat

[tulip grail]

!e

for i in range(1, 12): print("Fizz"*(i%3==0)+"Buzz"*(i%5==0) or i)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ZLZFCYPV3GI2HT4NSU4FDF3NME

[slim depot]

!e from builtins import print as p;p([(f:='Fizz'(i%3<1)+'Buzz'*(i%5<1))or i for i in range(1,101)])

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1 2 Fizz 4 Buzz Fizz 7 8 Fizz Buzz 11 Fizz 13 14 FizzBuzz 16 17 Fizz 19 Buzz Fizz 22 23 Fizz Buzz 26 Fizz 28 29 FizzBuzz 31 32 Fizz 34 Buzz Fizz 37 38 Fizz Buzz 41 Fizz 43 44 FizzBuzz 46 47 Fizz 49 Buzz Fizz 52 53 Fizz Buzz 56 Fizz 58 59 FizzBuzz 61 62 Fizz 64 Buzz Fizz 67 68 Fizz Buzz 71 Fizz 73 74 FizzBuzz 76 77 Fizz 79 Buzz Fizz 82 83 Fizz Buzz 86 Fizz 88 89 FizzBuzz 91 92 Fizz 94 Buzz Fizz 97 98 Fizz Buzz

[delicate wren]

x for x in map(f, a, b, c)
f(a_, b_, c_) for a_, b_, c_ in zip(a, b, c)

(those are equivalent)

[slim depot]

!e
exec("for i in range(1,101):print((i%3<1)'Fizz'+(i%5<1)'Buzz'or i)")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/EFQDKZ4FO3Q3YSFQP2LQNFRJHY

[arctic dirge]

!e

print(list(map(lambda x: x**2), [1, 2, 3]))

[edgy chasm]

!e ```py
for i in range(1,101):print((i%3<1)"F"+(i%5<1)"B"or i,end="")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

12F4BF78FB11F1314FB1617F19BF2223FB26F2829FB3132F34BF3738FB41F4344FB4647F49BF5253FB56F5859FB6162F64BF6768FB71F7374FB7677F79BF8283FB86F8889FB9192F94BF9798FB

[delicate wren]

I'm going for no loops or lambdas, not code size

[arctic dirge]

!e

print(list(map(lambda x: x**2, [1, 2, 3])))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[1, 4, 9]

[tulip grail]

!e

print('1,2,Fizz,4,Buzz,Fizz,7,8,Fizz,Buzz,11'.replace(',','\n'))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ZIL5KSF4Y7ICMODBA2CT4K4RUE

[split aurora]

and the winner is ...............

[edgy chasm]

!e ```py
print("\n".join([
1, 2, "Fizz", 4, "Buzz", "Fizz", 7, 8, "Fizz", "Buzz", 11, "Fizz", 13, 14, "Fizz""Buzz", 16, 17, "Fizz", 19, "Buzz", "Fizz", 22, 23, "Fizz", "Buzz", 26, "Fizz", 28, 29, "Fizz""Buzz", 31, 32, "Fizz", 34, "Buzz", "Fizz", 37, 38, "Fizz", "Buzz", 41, "Fizz", 43, 44, "Fizz""Buzz", 46, 47, "Fizz", 49, "Buzz", "Fizz", 52, 53, "Fizz", "Buzz", 56, "Fizz", 58, 59, "Fizz""Buzz", 61, 62, "Fizz", 64, "Buzz", "Fizz", 67, 68, "Fizz", "Buzz", 71, "Fizz", 73, 74, "Fizz""Buzz", 76, 77, "Fizz", 79, "Buzz", "Fizz", 82, 83, "Fizz", "Buzz", 86, "Fizz", 88, 89, "Fizz""Buzz", 91, 92, "Fizz", 94, "Buzz", "Fizz", 97, 98, "Fizz", "Buzz"]))

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 5
002 |     "Buzz", "Fizz", 67, 68, "Fizz", "Buzz", 71, "Fizz", 73, 74, "Fizz""Buzz", 76, 77, "Fizz", 79, "Buzz", "Fizz", 82, 83, "Fizz", "Bu
003 |                                                                                                                                   ^
004 | SyntaxError: unterminated string literal (detected at line 5)

[edgy chasm]

ohhh

!e ```py
print("\n".join([
1, 2, "Fizz", 4, "Buzz", "Fizz", 7, 8, "Fizz", "Buzz", 11, "Fizz", 13, 14, "Fizz""Buzz", 16, 17, "Fizz", 19, "Buzz", "Fizz", 22, 23, "Fizz", "Buzz", 26, "Fizz", 28, 29, "Fizz""Buzz", 31, 32, "Fizz", 34, "Buzz", "Fizz", 37, 38, "Fizz", "Buzz", 41, "Fizz", 43, 44, "Fizz""Buzz", 46, 47, "Fizz", 49, "Buzz", "Fizz", 52, 53, "Fizz", "Buzz", 56, "Fizz", 58, 59, "Fizz""Buzz", 61, 62, "Fizz", 64, "Buzz", "Fizz", 67, 68, "Fizz", "Buzz", 71, "Fizz", 73, 74, "Fizz""Buzz", 76, 77, "Fizz", 79, "Buzz", "Fizz", 82, 83, "Fizz", "Buzz", 86, "Fizz", 88, 89, "Fizz""Buzz", 91, 92, "Fizz", 94, "Buzz", "Fizz", 97, 98, "Fizz", "Buzz"]))

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print("\n".join([
004 |           ~~~~~~~~~^^
005 |     1, 2, "Fizz", 4, "Buzz", "Fizz", 7, 8, "Fizz", "Buzz", 11, "Fizz", 13, 14, "Fizz""Buzz", 16, 17, "Fizz", 19, "Buzz", "Fizz", 22, 23, "Fizz", "Buzz", 26, "Fizz", 28, 29, "Fizz""Buzz", 31, 32, "Fizz", 34, "Buzz", "Fizz", 37, 38, "Fizz", "Buzz", 41, "Fizz", 43, 44, "Fizz""Buzz", 46, 47, "Fizz", 49, "Buzz", "Fizz", 52, 53, "Fizz", "Buzz", 56, "Fizz", 58, 59, "Fizz""Buzz", 61, 62, "Fizz", 64, "Buzz", "Fizz", 67, 68, "Fizz", "Buzz", 71, "Fizz", 73, 74, "Fizz""Buzz", 76, 77, "Fizz", 79, "Buzz", "Fizz", 82, 83, "Fizz", "Buzz", 86, "Fizz", 88, 89, "Fizz""Buzz", 91, 92, "Fizz", 94, "Buzz", "Fizz", 97, 98, "Fizz", "Buzz"]))
006 |     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
... (truncated - too long)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/IGSMA2JW4EB3VVMYV4LUT3R2PM

[edgy chasm]

ohhh

[delicate wren]

!e

# time for seriously dubious stuff
print('12F4BF78FB'.replace('','\n').replace('F', 'Fizz').replace('B', 'Buzz')[1:-1])

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz

[delicate wren]

somewhat doesn't scale

beyond 10

[arctic dirge]

!e

exec("for i in range(1,101):print('Fizz'*(i%3<1)+'Buzz'*(i%5<1)or i)")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/USRIHBMMC5UFWU6CC43Z6Q4OEQ

[delicate wren]

why put that inside an exec?

[edgy chasm]

!e ```py
print(["1", "2", "Fizz", "4", "Buzz", "Fizz", "7", "8", "Fizz", "Buzz", "11", "Fizz", "13", "14", "FizzBuzz", "16", "17", "Fizz", "19", "Buzz", "Fizz", "22", "23", "Fizz", "Buzz", "26", "Fizz", "28", "29", "FizzBuzz", "31", "32", "Fizz", "34", "Buzz", "Fizz", "37", "38", "Fizz", "Buzz", "41", "Fizz", "43", "44", "FizzBuzz", "46", "47", "Fizz", "49", "Buzz", "Fizz", "52", "53", "Fizz", "Buzz", "56", "Fizz", "58", "59", "FizzBuzz", "61", "62", "Fizz", "64", "Buzz", "Fizz", "67", "68", "Fizz", "Buzz", "71", "Fizz", "73", "74", "FizzBuzz", "76", "77", "Fizz", "79", "Buzz", "Fizz", "82", "83", "Fizz", "Buzz", "86", "Fizz", "88", "89","FizzBuzz", "91", "92", "Fizz", "94", "Buzz", "Fizz", "97", "98", "Fizz", "Buzz"])

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

['1', '2', 'Fizz', '4', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '7', '8', 'Fizz', 'Buzz', '11', 'Fizz', '13', '14', 'FizzBuzz', '16', '17', 'Fizz', '19', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '22', '23', 'Fizz', 'Buzz', '26', 'Fizz', '28', '29', 'FizzBuzz', '31', '32', 'Fizz', '34', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '37', '38', 'Fizz', 'Buzz', '41', 'Fizz', '43', '44', 'FizzBuzz', '46', '47', 'Fizz', '49', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '52', '53', 'Fizz', 'Buzz', '56', 'Fizz', '58', '59', 'FizzBuzz', '61', '62', 'Fizz', '64', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '67', '68', 'Fizz', 'Buzz', '71', 'Fizz', '73', '74', 'FizzBuzz', '76', '77', 'Fizz', '79', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '82', '83', 'Fizz', 'Buzz', '86', 'Fizz', '88', '89', 'FizzBuzz', '91', '92', 'Fizz', '94', 'Buzz', 'Fizz', '97', '98', 'Fizz', 'Buzz']

[edgy chasm]

!e ```py
print("\n".join(["1", "2", "Fizz", "4", "Buzz", "Fizz", "7", "8", "Fizz", "Buzz", "11", "Fizz", "13", "14", "FizzBuzz", "16", "17", "Fizz", "19", "Buzz", "Fizz", "22", "23", "Fizz", "Buzz", "26", "Fizz", "28", "29", "FizzBuzz", "31", "32", "Fizz", "34", "Buzz", "Fizz", "37", "38", "Fizz", "Buzz", "41", "Fizz", "43", "44", "FizzBuzz", "46", "47", "Fizz", "49", "Buzz", "Fizz", "52", "53", "Fizz", "Buzz", "56", "Fizz", "58", "59", "FizzBuzz", "61", "62", "Fizz", "64", "Buzz", "Fizz", "67", "68", "Fizz", "Buzz", "71", "Fizz", "73", "74", "FizzBuzz", "76", "77", "Fizz", "79", "Buzz", "Fizz", "82", "83", "Fizz", "Buzz", "86", "Fizz", "88", "89","FizzBuzz", "91", "92", "Fizz", "94", "Buzz", "Fizz", "97", "98", "Fizz", "Buzz"]))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 1
002 | 2
003 | Fizz
004 | 4
005 | Buzz
006 | Fizz
007 | 7
008 | 8
009 | Fizz
010 | Buzz
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/M3XSXLULBTHUMXMNHJNFATVJWA

[delicate wren]

perfectly aligned

there is no goal

[split aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-ribbon-first-place-1st-place-winner-gif-18811138

[arctic dirge]

i'm trying to golf..won't i have to use newlines..

[delicate wren]

next exercise: factorial

!e

print((lambda: lambda f: lambda: (lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())()(lambda: lambda x: lambda: f()(x()(x))())())()(lambda: lambda g: lambda: lambda x: lambda: 1 if x() == 0 else x() * g()(lambda: x() - 1)())()(lambda: 100)())

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000

[edgy chasm]

what the actual fuck is that

[warm kettle]

!e

[delicate wren]

(I'm just trying to remember the historical cursed code I made and sent here)

factorial

!e

from math import factorial
print(factorial(100))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000

[delicate wren]

same result

[delicate wren]

implementing recursion without calling the function itself by name

[edgy chasm]

print("\n".join([((i%3<1)*"Fizz"+(i%5<1)*"Buzz")or str(i)for i in range(1, 101)]))

[delicate wren]

!e

print(int("৪୨"))  # answer to everything

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

42

[delicate wren]

another fun one

[edgy chasm]

why is "৪୨" 42

৪୨

[arctic dirge]

!e

f=1;for i in range(1,101):f*=i;print(f)

[warm kettle]

89

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1
002 |     f=1;for i in range(1,101):f*=i;print(f)
003 |         ^^^
004 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[arctic dirge]

dnag, can't do semicolon

[delicate wren]

!charinfo ৪୨

[coarse hearth]

Character Info

\u09ea : BENGALI DIGIT FOUR - ৪
\u0b68 : ORIYA DIGIT TWO - ୨

Full Raw Text

\u09ea\u0b68

[arctic dirge]

lemme try walrus

[delicate wren]

you can try several

so it becomes walri

[glad turtle]

@slim depot https://www.amazon.com/Joys-Hashing-Hash-Table-Programming/dp/B0DBKQS2WF

[arctic dirge]

!e

[f:=f*i for i in range(1,101)];print(f)

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     [f:=f*i for i in range(1,101)];print(f)
004 |         ^
005 | NameError: name 'f' is not defined

[arctic dirge]

dang... sad..but it's defined

[delicate wren]

you need some amount of deferred evaluation

[arctic dirge]

is there a recursive way to use walrus i wonder

[delicate wren]

the way Y-combinator does it, it re-creates the function on each next descent

[delicate wren]

!e

print(f"{1:0<{1:0<10}}")

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(f"{1:0<{1:0<10}}")
004 |             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | MemoryError

[arctic dirge]

lmao

[delicate wren]

@slim depot it does count removed lines too, right?

I think the most code I wrote in a relatively short period of time was still when I was doing 1 line per minute on average

(it was for, like, 11 days)

[delicate wren]

(per minute of time passing including sleep, not per minute of coding sessions)

I rounded down

I so want to make a 2008 joke about bubble sort and just can't come up with one

which Java

there is so much Java 8 still happening

"Python is the second best language for everything"

I prototype software in Rust, I'm not normal

Rust is the easiest to compose existing software in

you can even do async-await in embedded Rust

and there you pretty much need global state for it to work

[tulip grail]

@stuck bluff 👋

[stuck bluff]

@plucky jackal 👋

[plucky jackal]

hii

im unable to join voice chats since im new to the server

[teal crane]

print(hello World)

!e

[coarse hearth]

Missing required argument

code

[teal crane]

!eval [python_version] <code, ...>

[stuck bluff]

@grave marsh 👋

@sacred mango 👋

[grave marsh]

🎉

[stuck bluff]

@obsidian ferry 👋

[hazy jolt]

Hi

[delicate wren]

@zinc rain valid as in <...>?

and do you need to log it or actually reject the request on invalid input?

also don't use Flask

use something that declaratively expresses those requirements

for example, Pydantic; iirc it can be applied to query params too

[zinc rain]

like i am sending a string using postman, lets say "storage_path" , on reciving end i wanna check ifstorage path is in request , is not empty or blank

[zinc rain]

I know but i am stuck with the project

Helping a frnd

I think FASTAPI is much better

[delicate wren]

with Flask, it seems like you'll have to do that in code yourself

[zinc rain]

Haha yes thats what i am doing

[delicate wren]

also, you can use Pydantic anyway there

since what you receive can be trivially converted to just dict[str,str]

which Pydantic knows how to parse

and, iirc, it even parses numbers out of that, even though that's a bad idea in other contexts

[zinc rain]

Searching stackoverflow

:pv

[delicate wren]

there are some infrequently used packages for that too

@thin lintel at most, I might've heard the name

@thin lintel "no ads because no one watches it anyway"

[thin lintel]

True

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel new ice breakers are getting built or just Finland doesn't need as many ice breakers any more because climate change?

there was some trending video from recently about how <10 countries can still build big ships

something like 4 or 5

oil money, yes

sell them to penguin empire

[stuck bluff]

The Soup Bowl. Instead of football, people eat soup.

[delicate wren]

lack of "playing" before "football" there makes it sound like "eat soup instead of eating football"

[thin lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-27561865

[delicate wren]

🇵🇱

@thin lintel or characters aren't supposed to age as much

problems with shows running for way too long

[stuck bluff]

"I had plastic surgery, I had amnesia, there was an aeroplane crash and I was stranded on a desert island! It wasn't my fault!"

The company would still be around.

Telenova.

https://tenor.com/view/telenovela-tv-residence-eva-longoria-me-its-me-gif-16206151

[delicate wren]

Power

[tulip grail]

bakkie?

[gleaming vale]

whats that?

[thin lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/billiesrazor-bucees-mexican-tribal-gif-17209379776846183067

[stuck bluff]

It's going to be awkward when they start using them the way they used to be used.

[noble forge]

well...

[delicate wren]

so randomised

[delicate wren]

"give children guns" Vermont

[thin lintel]

"Question"

[umbral rose]

Hey all 👋 My headset's cord is messed up again, so my mic is intermittent.

[gleaming vale]

youll have same audio as mine lol

[umbral rose]

I have to balance the cord on my head to make the curvature required to have the mic pass through

It wasn't great for all the clients I had yesterday haha

[delicate wren]

I stopped using the headset mic entirely some time ago

for all the work calls and whatever, using a standalone mic

[gleaming vale]

did i just saw a random nepl flag..

[stuck bluff]

I haven't shown her yet.

But I will.

[thin lintel]

Ah

[gleaming vale]

hemlock was here...

[thin lintel]

Is*

[umbral rose]

How else would they defend against the hoards of wild pigs that roam around terrorizing the lands?

[stuck bluff]

Lifehack: You don't need to feed them.

(This is facetious.)

[gleaming vale]

i would just remove that species on the face of the earth so everyone is safe

[thin lintel]

"Bro-pain"

[gleaming vale]

https://tenor.com/view/propane-accessories-hank-hill-gif-13079833

[amber agate]

[delicate wren]

when capitalism happened

[umbral rose]

It's not just going to magically go away haha

the cord is messed up

[delicate wren]

proxy server decided to randomly crash

brb

google is refusing to answer my questions

MIT?

Stanford is California too, apparently

SASS SaaS: compiling CSS on demand

while True:
    sleep(1)
    print("DO NOT TURN YET")

[delicate wren]

optimal T-34 driver

@elder wraith maybe helix or other vim derivatives

"I truly like eding my .yamls"

JSON can be just parsed as YAML

@thin lintel Christian Rap 🚀

[sly pond]

Christian Gangster Rap

THat's my favorite genre in the winamp genre list

https://mutagen-specs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/id3/id3v1-genres.html #136

my bad, it's gangsta

[delicate wren]

I forgot that was actually real

[sly pond]

Yea, it was my favorite genre to select

not to lsiten to

If they believe people deserve death for existing, I have an issue with it

I generally recommend food

makes for a good lunch

[delicate wren]

do NOT eat those crosses

[sly pond]

https://tenor.com/HOaw.gif

"restaurant"

fast food

lol

Ooh, chicken with a side of hate

Who doesn't love a hate filled sandwich

[delicate wren]

yeah I started questioning my vague understanding of what Arby's is too, for a moment

[sly pond]

IDK I haven't had it in a while, do they maintain the quality?

[delicate wren]

®

[sly pond]

I've been enjoying Dave's Hot Chicken as of late

They seem to have a pretty large footprint

They even have fried cauliflower for vegetarians

[delicate wren]

pizza with cauliflower

pizza with broccoli

"doing meth in my head"

[sly pond]

Dave's HOT NOT chicken

So clever

It tastes great, the wife is a vegetarian

[delicate wren]

I remember I ordered some combo thingy which had those two

[sly pond]

so it's nice that there's food for her

How far is rabbit driving today?

[delicate wren]

I'm not vegetarian/"healthy eating", but consuming meat and fried food annoys me very quickly for whatever reason

[toxic oracle]

hello guys

[delicate wren]

eating fast food out of masochism

I found some place that delivers square pizza

and the only one I liked there was pepperoni
(best out of any pizza I ever ordered in this city)

[sly pond]

Lose a court case? Just ask SCOTUS to save the day

err, ruin the country

Supreme court ignores all precedent if it's regarding Trump

[delicate wren]

do I remember correctly that Trump said something about wanting to jail people for complaining anything about supreme court?

[sly pond]

And even if this causes their family members to die, people will still vote for him for a third term

https://tenor.com/bJrQN.gif

[delicate wren]

just do what Putin did, make it technically 1st term

for some re-definition of "technically"

[sly pond]

Just gotta ask tell SCOTUS to

[delicate wren]

0th term, even

[sly pond]

With his health and age, I don't think he has the time for another term, but time will tell

[delicate wren]

do you think they won't elect a corpse?

[sly pond]

They will bernie the shit out of htat corpse

Every accusation is a projection

Autopen Biden?

They ahve a room full of autopens for trump

Elections are fucked anyways, a republican is buying Dominion?

America is falling too fast to be caught

[delicate wren]

Trump admitted to that openly iirc?

but, like, will still accuse Biden, obviously, regardless

[sly pond]

https://tenor.com/8AOY.gif

can't forget the root of all republican problems

https://tenor.com/0wdy.gif

Nice

lol

He is trying to start a civil war

how the fuck is that gonna earn you a peace prize?

At least someone stood up to the fuck

A venezuelan woman

HHAHAHAHHAHAA so good

Trumps mortal enemy, Venezuela

what a headline

a snub

el oh fuckin el

He didn't deserve it, so he was snubbed, of course

[delicate wren]

Nobel War Prize

[sly pond]

He wouldn't even deserve that, Putin gets the war prize hands down

[stuck bluff]

There is another contender, of course.

Comparing tragedies is often a bit sad and pointless.

[delicate wren]

great weekend plans: sleep 20 hours, learn TLA+, sleep 20 hours, play Civ6

YAMLs to yell at

[delicate wren]

I have some software in need of TLA+ing it

do any universities teach TLA+

seemingly https://discuss.tlapl.us/msg02805.html

[sly pond]

I grabbed BG3

[delicate wren]

I don't remember what I bought

Transport Fever 2 and X4: Foundations

I'd still probably prefer OpenTTD over any other transport game

just because multiplayer

@unborn marlin

3 accounts 3 characters
typical EVE player

I'm likely going to spend something like 20~40 hours on a single boss battle in one of the games just because I want to beat it with hardest conditions possible

there is a slight complication: it's unbeatable by plot

@unborn marlin I have the same but I'm just not creative enough at purchases

like I'm too lazy to shop

I just can't spend money that fast somehow

I absolutely can't spend money on courses

this is one of those cases where I just know upfront this is a total waste

(unless it's from some entertaining author)

I don't consume educational content for learning

just not the way I do that; entertainment first and foremost

... yes, I do find things like this entertaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3P_Lmq6pw0

this is like total clickbait

I buy some brand-ish thing but only when on sale and often I find out only afterwards

[thin lintel]

@sacred quest can you mute your mic or use Krips, we hear everything

[sacred quest]

( it's already open )

please don't get me BAN FOR SECOND TIME

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel chemical product opera

going back to the original topic

[sly pond]

REgulations are bad, the yget in the way of snake oil salesman

won't someone consider the snake oil salesmen?

[delicate wren]

I remember someone was debating with someone else and their argument was:

regulation is bad for business

like

[sly pond]

If a company is speaking to me, they're lying

[delicate wren]

"ok?"

[sly pond]

welcome to marketing

bad businesses are bad for society

so they shouldn't fucking exist

FDR was a fuckin boss

Now we only elect cowards

and puppets

That's a business that shoudn't exist. Can't pay living wages? Get fucked

you don't deserve our time

[delicate wren]

same person publicly praising Putin and hypercapitalist meglocorps

[sly pond]

lol

Comical to say it's difficult

"it might make it harder for that billionaire to get richer!"

OH FUCKIN NO!

Watch me not shed a single fucking tear

It's actually really simple

we only elect pieces of shit

therefore we can't do it

no spines in congress

[delicate wren]

society has come to a point where taxes are a taboo topic amongst the rich

well unless they complain about how high they are

(approx 0%)

[sly pond]

Taxes? I thought people love that hsit

That's why they cheer for record tariff earnings

YAY TAXES ON THE MASSES

STRAIGHT FROM THE PRESIDENTE

@tidal reef I don't think intentionally misgendering people is allowed.

[delicate wren]

@tidal reef you never met a woman before?

[tidal reef]

😅

[tidal reef]

I thought he is a boy

[sly pond]

Have you been talking?

[sly pond]

It's been clarified

you continue to misgender

can you stop?

[tidal reef]

K

[sly pond]

She is not a boy

it's not a hard concept to show respect

And if that is too hard, don't disrespect

[delicate wren]

"respect my authoritee"

[sly pond]

IDK about htat, I think people start with a default bit of respect

being a bad person makes you fall off the baseline and you gotta earn it back

but by default people deserve a level of respect

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel given belief in reincarnation, death punishment would be an option still

@thin lintel local KGB HQ?

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel "peace process" sounds like a euphemism for war

said Chris

unwatch

[solid matrix]

Hi

Sorry

[misty sinew]

Hey

I am in 11th grade and I took computer science as one of my electives

So I am here to find someone who is Willing to help me solve my doubts in python

[delicate wren]

smart beep beep machine

I had noticeable arrhythmia somewhen earlier this year

also what a horrible word to spell

extra r, extra h, extra h

also y for whatever reason

ugh

[delicate wren]

in a typical me fashion, I just ignored that happening

@thin lintel "to my mom, and all moms of my friends"

[sly pond]

Y'all watched daytime TV on primetime?

[delicate wren]

I remember having to live with 180 pulse for a ~week~~, sure was fun~~

(this was, in fact, not fun)

[delicate wren]

"we printed all the posters on this poor quality paper, now we have to make the series itself look like that"

[tidal reef]

Halo

[crisp rampart]

🤣

[safe bison]

I can help solving your doubts in python

[misty sinew]

Thankyouu

[inland herald]

@sacred quest

[sacred quest]

Yooo wsp bro

[inland herald]

Yooo

[onyx rain]

Hello good morning everyone

[sleek cedar]

good morning

[tulip ice]

good mornin

[delicate wren]

now yes

[quaint pagoda]

yo i gave a interview on full stack web dev yesterday

[delicate wren]

no, only GTA6 source code

anyway, yes, cannot ask for stuff like that

[quaint pagoda]

he asked me about all backend dev
like authorization how do i implement ?
my answer was just store the users what can they do and just check them is that correct
and also authentication i told that it works by secret keys,public keys is that correct?

[delicate wren]

authorisation part is right

authentication not entirely

authentication is generally the step where you need to figure out who accesses the resource

[quaint pagoda]

like for example consider mongob i store users right?

[delicate wren]

public/secret keys is only the case for PKI-based authentication

there are also tokens (of various sorts) and password-based methods

[quaint pagoda]

ok you mean jwt authentication

[delicate wren]

not necessarily

[quaint pagoda]

i started by backend journey bc of you @delicate wren

you told me about microservices

[delicate wren]

OAuth2 is somewhere in those categories too

OAuth2 is more than just "sign in with <...>" functionality

@stuck bluff `on the fly' pun intentional?

given the earlier phrases

[stuck bluff]

next?

[quaint pagoda]

and he asked how do you fetch the api i told we use requests library

[delicate wren]

I might've misinterpreted previous context

[stuck bluff]

Sorry, I don't understand

[delicate wren]

((talking like plane staff + `fly'))

[delicate wren]

requests is less used nowadays

primarily httpx

[delicate wren]

"less used" in projects which actually researched which deps to use

[quaint pagoda]

and he asked how do you fetch the data from 3rd party apis
and told that we need api keys and all the documentation of api if they are public right?

[stuck bluff]

@gilded plinth 👋

[gilded plinth]

haha hthanks bro

its actually a real place whereI live

I got some Dab pens

THC yeah

These arent legally in ireland either but you can buy the stuff online to make them

I cant type todayu

Yeah northern ireland

hahahaha yeah

ITS REAL TO ME THO

Once my vc gets approved u can hear my accent and its not proper dublin accent

RIP QUEEN LIZZY

Yeah she was an icojn

We had lunch together

!userr

!user

[coarse hearth]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[gilded plinth]

Broken languages

English is the best

but I like swedish aswell

[tame leaf]

... Bruh

[gilded plinth]

Lol

German = shouting

Same with Russian

I got bro cooking by accident

Yeah same with like spanisyh?

Ahh oka

I only know english swedish and some spanish

I like sweden just

Wanna move there

Spannish goes well in music

Nah the only finnish people I like are the Dudesons

the youtube group from years ago

23

I'm self taught in most my stuff I left school at 16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w1xRQEjHTY

[stuck bluff]

@thick lichen 👋

[thick lichen]

yoo

[stuck bluff]

#voice-verification

[thick lichen]

ik

[gilded plinth]

Adios guys talk tomorrow

[tranquil swan]

I didn't know i was unmuted

[glad turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0TpWitfxPk

[misty sinew]

i can't talk

[edgy chasm]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[delicate wren]

you can probably message @crisp hazel, since you were previously verified, Chris or Hemlock might recognise you (or just ask one of them directly)
((rare exception for relatively active voice participants))

[misty sinew]

k thanks will do

no luck yet

[mellow osprey]

my python code

is so buns 😢

[formal plinth]

hello! lol I don't have enough time in the server to speak apparently lol

[carmine fiber]

@umbral rose I dont have permission to talk yetr

unfortunately.

[fair heron]

@weak rock did you fix it

[stuck bluff]

@tame leaf

@distant cloak 👋

[frozen echo]

i am. writing a tasklist using fastapi

[stuck bluff]

@frozen echo 👋

[frozen echo]

hi

no i said a thing!!

just i can't speak

lol

[distant cloak]

i dont have speaking permissions

[frozen echo]

ok i came here bc i wanted to get AWAY from this convo

back to the other channel?

[distant cloak]

i cant speak 🗣️

i cant speak 🗣️

[tame leaf]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[distant cloak]

Voice Gate failed
You are not currently eligible to use voice inside Python Discord for the following reasons:

You have sent less than 25 messages.
You have been active for fewer than 9 ten-minute blocks.

literally 1984

[tame leaf]

Nope

[distant cloak]

yes

for what is my crime

eating a meal

a succulent chinese meal

[tame leaf]

Tbh it's because of people who spammed slurs on vc

[distant cloak]

how does it even track the 9 ten minute blocks

[sly pond]

❤️ redefining words.

especially the word literally, to make it mean anything but

[stuck bluff]

Send a text message, that starts a ten minute timer. Every message you send in those ten minutes is part of that one activity block. After, the next message you send starts another activity block and so on.

The long and the short of the requirements is they can be fulfilled by engaging in text conversation in the conventional fashion. There is no need to think much about the details.

It's a minor pain in the arse, but a surmountable one. Its implementation made the voice chat something people could enjoy instead of being bombarded by voice trolls every twenty minutes.

Small negative to eliminate the bigger negative.

I don't like the voice gate either, but given givens, it's better to have it than to not

[formal plinth]

yes I got this instantly; it makes total sense as it's a professional space perse; there's nothing worse than joining a voice channel with a bunch of 13 year olds spamming soundboards

[stuck bluff]

Calling it punishment is a flawed and absurd characterisation.

Collective punishment would be banning everyone in the voice chat every time something actionable occurred.

Adding the event to everyone's records.

Holding them responsible.

[tame leaf]

Sorry, i didn't think it that deeply when writing this

[polar narwhal]

Man I had pretty good english grades, but when yall start to talk about code I dont understand anything.

[prisma basin]

@atomic arrow

[atomic arrow]

damn

unmute me fgs

what kind of server does such things

[sly pond]

You should check out #rules

it's a cool thing

then #voice-verification

[shell mural]

😜

[atomic arrow]

i need to send at least 25

so

i

shit

lmao

[shell mural]

25 messages more ?

😂

[atomic arrow]

roughly

i am not into that

i used to

but

i stopped

[mild flume]

Phone call froze my phone

[stuck bluff]

@coarse aurora 👋

@quick root 👋

[coarse aurora]

Enter mistakenly homie but ur nice guy for Wlc me

[stuck bluff]

@manic spoke 👋

@ember frost 👋

[reef granite]

https://github.com/nim-lang/nimony

[gleaming vale]

// a call back function for events on 
std::vector<
    std::pair<
        std::string, // event type
        std::function<
            void(Window::Interaction_states)
        >
    >
> call_back;

this one looks dumb...

[delicate wren]

what size is that vector? (approximately)

for small sizes linear search is often faster than hashing/tree search

https://youtu.be/M2fKMP47slQ

[gleaming vale]

i changed the code

// a call back function for events on 
std::unordered_map<
    std::string, /* event type*/
    std::function<
        void(Window::Interaction_state)
    >
> call_back;

discord didnt parse the comment properly bruh

[delicate wren]

this now has at most one callback per event type

if you want more than one, apparently there is std::multimap

(I don't have all C++ standard containers memorised, so this one I just guess-looked-up, and apparently it exists)

[delicate wren]

or std::unordered_multimap

[delicate wren]

additional benefit of moving: I now can hear without a VPN

VC0 to VC1

Rotterdam to Amsterdam (server-wise)

[stuck bluff]

@modern flume 👋

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel turning into Rabbit

[gleaming vale]

uhhh what is the use case for multiple event listener listening in same events?

[delicate wren]

see JS's EventTarget, where you can addEventListener multiple times, which in a sense fans out same events to several handlers

@thin lintel trumpify

[gleaming vale]

why yould you have multiple event handler for single event from a object?

[stuck bluff]

@junior tangle 👋

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff should've also pronounced the spaces

@thin lintel Spotify also steals artists' music in favour of AI

[junior tangle]

hi

[delicate wren]

having multiple other objects depending on it, e.g. for UI reactivity