voice-chat-text-1

[delicate wren]

desktop or mobile?

[normal dome]

desktop

not sure if i should just stick with vs code and call it a day

[stuck bluff]

In the northern parts of...where?

Aha.

[delicate wren]

seems to work this time

@thin lintel the what was going to happen?

[stuck bluff]

The rapture.

[delicate wren]

what does it even mean

definitely expected "only true believers will know the meaning of"

the Wikipedia article is so poorly written that this looks like some sort of esoteric bs

no wonder, given this exists, some people join cults like scientology

[stuck bluff]

Nevertheless, it is a thing a great many people believe in, thus has bearing on their actions, impacting others.

People in power...trying to bring about the end times so they can go to heaven...

To buggery with everyone else...

Death cult stuff.

[delicate wren]

(remember: scientology is not even a religion, it's a cult, being negative towards it is more than fine)

sue-entology

they should elect Larry Ellison as their Jesus 2

affiliate marketing ✨

@thin lintel do they have, like, a top level lesser Pope or whatever

or multiple

what happens if your recruiter dies

difficult economical questions

[delicate wren]

financially incentivises certain kinds of "accidents"

[stuck bluff]

Heyo Maro.

[delicate wren]

clearly supercomputer is to be recommended

[delicate wren]

play what

https://minesweeper.online/help/gameplay

[misty sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-mcdonalds-mcdogenals-gif-24648142

might keep you awake behind the computer

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff "make an RSS feed with timestamps of past sneezes"

[stuck bluff]

@chilly harness 👋

https://imgur.com/gallery/stabilized-sea-crane-Plf6Mgh

[chilly harness]

how do i talk

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[chilly harness]

a ok

[stuck bluff]

@dawn tundra 👋

[delicate wren]

seasickness intensifier

[dawn tundra]

hello

I am Turkish, I don't understand you very well

[delicate wren]

!d pandas

[coarse hearth]

pandas

pandas documentation

Date: Aug 21, 2025 Version: 2.3.2

Download documentation: Zipped HTML...

[dawn tundra]

Can you teach me Python?

I am writing from translation. I apologize if I am writing incorrectly.

[chilly harness]

@stuck bluff i want to teach me python for my school project

[delicate wren]

we can't guide you through the whole process, but we can help with specific questions

[chilly harness]

can you

[dawn tundra]

If you write it here, I can look at the translation of what you said.

can you teach me the basics?

Do you think Python is easy for me to learn?

I don't understand what you're talking about. I don't know English. Sorry, if you write it down, I can look it up with the translation.

[delicate wren]

Python seems to generally be an easy language to learn

better error messages compared to, for example, C

[grave abyss]

@stuck bluff do you know logging in python or have u used it

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff AI will just link to AI-generated "sources"

[dawn tundra]

I understand

[wooden dome]

It would be great if you could be in VC

[dawn tundra]

Can you direct me to where I can learn easily without spending any money from my pocket?

[delicate wren]

and those don't link to anything

or rather nothing useful

they tend to link to themselves

[delicate wren]

official Python tutorial

also

!resources

[coarse hearth]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[delicate wren]

@dawn tundra

@woeful anchor

[grave abyss]

@stuck bluff Do you

[wooden dome]

@woeful anchor AI is a human invention, maintained by humans.

It can code a website but can it code a website which hasn't been made before?

[delicate wren]

technically LLM can make something that didn't exist before, because it's literally just a random number generator

just a very biased one

[dawn tundra]

Can you help me with my codes in this process?

[grave abyss]

@glad turtle ,How are you?

[glad turtle]

Living my life, as a man

[delicate wren]

if you're stuck during learning or something is broken and you can't debug that after a couple of hours of trying yourself, then consider opening a post in #1035199133436354600

[stuck bluff]

I do teach beginners, however, you may wish to learn from someone proficient in a language common to both of you. Clarity of communication makes it less frustrating for all involved. I'm not unwilling to try, but not right now.

[delicate wren]

most of logging-related stuff I did in Rust not Python

[glad turtle]

@wraith moss did you find a job yet bro?

[delicate wren]

I think I literally read the entirety of tracing's source code at some point

it's a small crate

[dawn tundra]

My dream is to learn this language.

[delicate wren]

@woeful anchor there is a lot of freelance jobs that are about fixing AI code

[glad turtle]

Persian? Mandarin?

[delicate wren]

@woeful anchor what you heard was, to use an industry term, a lie

until you've been doing this for ~20 years, AI will be a net negative for you

[wooden dome]

@woeful anchor If, Ai can do a job of freelancer it can take almost all jobs.

Freelancer is one man business, everything is handled by a freelancer from marketing to product design to delivery

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor do you know what a Holonomic function is?

[woeful anchor]

no

[delicate wren]

slower learning, worse code, and risk of getting looked down upon by people who know better (hello)

[glad turtle]

ok

[delicate wren]

@woeful anchor decades

i.e. you won't learn the whole Python

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor how much time will it take you to learn "all Python" from youtube influencers?

@woeful anchor have you read a single book on Python and solved all exercises?

[woeful anchor]

yea

[wooden dome]

One can learn most of python in 10 days

[glad turtle]

which one?

[woeful anchor]

small projects

cause im begginer

[wooden dome]

It depends on the individual

[delicate wren]

learned the whole standard library? there is CPython API and ABI details
learned that too? now there are all the proposals, forks, alternative implementations, packages, etc.
learned that also? it's been 20 minutes and there's already hours worth of things more to learn

[glad turtle]

I asked which book on Python have you read and solved all exercises in it?

[woeful anchor]

no, i learn form youtube only

[glad turtle]

he learns from youtube

[wooden dome]

You can never ever learn all of python from just a youtube tutorial

[delicate wren]

this is a video about a different language, but please watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL9LANLg5EA

this has a lot more about general learning

YouTube alone is not that efficient

[wooden dome]

I meant all of python

[delicate wren]

most of my C++ knowledge comes from YouTube, 1 big single web page and nearly 0 practice

[wooden dome]

Btw Opalmist has been coding in python for the past 7 years at least

[delicate wren]

more

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor how do you keep notes?

[delicate wren]

(I remember that it was more than in my case)

((8 years))

[woeful anchor]

i made notes on phone

[delicate wren]

I watch conferences not tutorials

[glad turtle]

what happens when you change your phone?

[wooden dome]

Use your mind haiya

[woeful anchor]

oh, i dont know

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff time to learn from Vimeo

does Python's standard library have more functions or methods

[wooden dome]

@woeful anchor Can you learn all of Chinese?

[woeful anchor]

no

[wooden dome]

Most Chinese are not aware of all of Mandarin

[delicate wren]

which Chinese

(rhetorical question)

[wooden dome]

Exactly, language is vast and learn what you need!

[woeful anchor]

oh ok

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor so how will you keep notes in this multi-year journey you are on to learn Python?

[delicate wren]

after ~year of learning, go and scan through the standard library

and just read what sounds interesting in there

[woeful anchor]

maybe i should practice to make all functions remember

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff krzysztof still hasn't done that

[glad turtle]

yes but how will you study, where will you write your notes?

[woeful anchor]

i actually dont know

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff the dataclasses discussion from earlier

it's in the tutorial now also

the tutorial still remains an extremely useful source

@stuck bluff __repr__

yes

[wooden dome]

@woeful anchor Do you need to learn python?

[woeful anchor]

yeah

[delicate wren]

pydantic/attrs are extensions of them

[wooden dome]

For what?

[delicate wren]

iirc there was some other one

whose name I can't remember

[woeful anchor]

for Machine learning

[delicate wren]

no

pyright is a language server

whose closed-source version is pylance

[wooden dome]

before learning python, learn maths for ML

[woeful anchor]

maths????

[wooden dome]

Yes

[delicate wren]

statistics and linear algebra

[woeful anchor]

i already know Maths

[wooden dome]

No you don't

[woeful anchor]

maybe 👀

[delicate wren]

calculus

tbf it's fairly simple calculus most of the time

[glad turtle]

Can you help me understand Holonomic functions and their use-cases?

[woeful anchor]

what u mean, see i know 1+1 = 2

[delicate wren]

like school-level

(for my perspective of school-level)

[woeful anchor]

i dont know im begginer

[glad turtle]

Please also help me understand bipartite graphs and network flow

[delicate wren]

((we did Riemann integrals at school))

[wooden dome]

Good..
You can make calculator

[delicate wren]

and proving how they're conditionally equivalent to those other integrals

whose name I don't know in English

Lebesgue?

yes, Lebesgue

I had to reverse-engineer that from phonetics

[wooden dome]

To learn ML, you need to learn Linear Algebra, Calculus, Probability and other aspects of mathematics

[delicate wren]

Python 2????

"normal input"

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor have you ever implemented a basic arithmetic expression evaluator in Python? because you said implementing a calculator is very easy

[delicate wren]

(((Python2's input() is Python3's eval(input()))))

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor do you know what RPN is or how to evaluate an AST? or what operator precedence is?

[delicate wren]

they already told they're a beginner, no need to guess random topics

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor please explain what Shunting yard is

[delicate wren]

ffs

[wooden dome]

@glad turtle He probably thinks simple arithmetic is calculator

[glad turtle]

@woeful anchor good question, what is Shunting yard. let this question guide you, I think it's a good question.

[woeful anchor]

ok

[wooden dome]

Creating a calculator which makes use of python arithmetic for calculation is different to creating a calculator from scratch

[delicate wren]

WASM

@stuck bluff of course, it's not designed to run, it has no legs

[wooden dome]

https://share.google/voM1DpmVlojrSn4Kx

[silk kindle]

oh hell no

[wooden dome]

@woeful anchor

[delicate wren]

replit have integrated a web front-end to pygame

somehow

[glad turtle]

I think the best way to learn programming is to take the classic curriculum, do DSA, do tons of DSA. No "projects", no "web apps".

[silk kindle]

how to use python to get money

[wooden dome]

He left

[misty sinew]

hello

[silk kindle]

hello

[split moth]

does python have its own virtual machine?

[misty sinew]

Can't speak

[wooden dome]

No

[silk kindle]

normal

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

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[split moth]

like JVM?

[delicate wren]

Jython Applets

[wooden dome]

PVM?

[silk kindle]

how to use python to make money

[delicate wren]

docker

[wooden dome]

https://share.google/UKrDP25rxjCfEr0Qa

[delicate wren]

?

[glad turtle]

https://leanpub.com/insidethepythonvirtualmachine/read

[delicate wren]

docker docker literature containers

[wooden dome]

PVM is different to JVM

[misty sinew]

pycharm, vscode and dockerwhich is more preffered for python programming?

[wooden dome]

https://share.google/pbfI5ANxCsun0jLSL

[wooden dome]

Spyder is good for beginners in DS or ML

[misty sinew]

okay

thx

[misty sinew]

where do I install it from

found two links

[wooden dome]

Google spyder ide

The first link is the official link

[misty sinew]

could you send it

[proven zephyr]

skrt

[wooden dome]

https://www.spyder-ide.org/

[glad turtle]

is that what rappers say?

[proven zephyr]

i just recently started learning python a couple days ago and i really like pycharm over vscode not sure about what docker is

[misty sinew]

me too

[wooden dome]

Unlike pycharm it is open source

[unkempt surge]

@woeful anchor 👋

[wooden dome]

Gtg

[proven zephyr]

this makes it worse

i fucking hate open source shit

[wooden dome]

Good for u

[proven zephyr]

Good for the world

[wooden dome]

Exactly everything should be behind the pay wall?

[proven zephyr]

Yes

[wooden dome]

If you don't like it just ignore it

no One forces you to use open source

[proven zephyr]

i want to force people to not use open source

[misty sinew]

the python discord on git

what is the main use

[wooden dome]

You gotta pay them, why would anyone be interested in your opensource intention

[misty sinew]

and what are those projects

[proven zephyr]

i think that open source causes too much growth and I'm unable to keep up

[misty sinew]

windows protector prevented spyder from running

[wooden dome]

Do you use pro?

[misty sinew]

no

the default

[wooden dome]

Run spyder let defender yell at you

[wooden dome]

You should be paying me to respond to your opensource thoughts

Cynical for Cynical

[proven zephyr]

Sure, please call your senator or MP or whomever and let them know that you want to get rid of open source stuff

just make up bs and say it allows china to steal our tech and mention communist and russia atleast 5 times

[wooden dome]

You sure got a lot of opensource time to talk about opensource

[proven zephyr]

i have no time, i am currently working on a roblox catalog

[wooden dome]

I got no more time as well!
It was nice knowing you!

[proven zephyr]

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[agile heart]

@proper ridge plz give me permisiion of voice

[glad turtle]

#voice-verification

[agile heart]

#voice-verification

[glad turtle]

go there and do it

[agile heart]

is there any java section

[rich scroll]

I remade roblox in python and its kinda cool i think

im trying to add studio and t shirts right now

[delicate wren]

time to add Lua scripting support just like in Roblox, if not already

(Python-Lua integration is quite good)

[rich scroll]

ok

[rich summit]

Hi friends

[warped plank]

hello guys

[copper garden]

Hello @warped plank

[north locust]

hello

had to find the channel

long time no seeee

I was missing you guys 😭

busy :c

[stuck bluff]

@mental iron 👋

@rocky pivot 👋

[north locust]

vampires would hate your household

[delicate wren]

or so the Vampires would have us believe

maybe they want you to eat garlic so blood is easier to drink

it's all a conspiracy

[north locust]

how sleep deprived are you milien

so many people are joining us now

[delicate wren]

@tulip grail not yet

I'll be reinstalling the whole system instead

TPM

I have TPM disabled

however

@tulip grail there are alleged ways to do this even without TPM

[thin lintel]

just 2 nights without good sleep

[wooden dome]

👋

[thin lintel]

some stress

[wooden dome]

How's it going?

[delicate wren]

woohoo I win, I have more: 4

[north locust]

wait a sec... @delicate wren what was your previous profile like?

[thin lintel]

it's AF

[north locust]

ah yes

[delicate wren]

@tulip grail there are ways to bypass, but not necessarily by "fooling" it

I'm not aware of the details

[north locust]

I use mac :c

[wooden dome]

Sound wave superior

Linux is like a decepticon

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel PayPal has always been an unethical business

because Thiel

[north locust]

honey?

[delicate wren]

affiliate fraud extension

also extorted businesses

@unborn marlin no, different

[north locust]

i know the honey drama

[delicate wren]

@unborn marlin it was "pay us, or else you lose money by us doing what we advertise to do"

extortion

[north locust]

markiplier was right :D

are they still talking to me

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel I don't think we have such laws, so companies do that mostly to appeal to customers

(some stores do, some stores don't)

[delicate wren]

prices graphs

[north locust]

my eyes are in a lot of pain (unrelated)

combination of hay fever, terrible hygiene and sleep deprivation

[unkempt surge]

What are you guys talking about ?

[north locust]

maybe I will go sleep undeprive myself...

[delicate wren]

@unborn marlin and then they take down web archive pages because it hurts their business

@stuck bluff and add lawyer budget caps, similar to how political campaign budgets are limited

and maybe also ban lobbying corruption, what a revolutionary idea

[north locust]

anyone good with poetry?

or English in general?

[delicate wren]

ah, so not the package management tool

[delicate wren]

I learned linguistics for some period, but that was long time ago

[north locust]

a bit far... I'm just prepping for a highschool poetry composition assessment

but linguistics is cool I think

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel vibe logic before AI bros took the term

[north locust]

"base 44"

"lovable"

"odoo"

[delicate wren]

extra respect towards odoo for having AI mentioned only once on the front page (and not prominent)

[north locust]

everybody migrated from vc0 to vc 1 🥲

[radiant mural]

just new buzzword

[delicate wren]

I shall resume playing Noctuary again

@thin lintel 23 minutes past the time

[delicate wren]

I streamed it to someone, and everyone present ended up buying it for themselves

good game

[north locust]

idk if anyone here has watched reply 1988 but I feel like I need one of those 24 hour don't sleep study rooms right now

no a physical place

24/7 study room

[delicate wren]

this time with a different voiceover

[glad turtle]

@unborn marlin you surprise me, you read a regression book?

very nice

@unborn marlin i checked my notes, we haven't talked before? how so

[north locust]

I need one of those study rooms because I can't really do anything without bothering sleeping family

[glad turtle]

@unborn marlin so these two?
https://www.amazon.com/Hypothesis-Testing-Intuitive-Making-Decisions/dp/173543115X
https://www.amazon.com/Regression-Analysis-Intuitive-Interpreting-Linear/dp/1735431184

[radiant mural]

just curious which regression book you mean ,
Regression and Other Stories
Book by Aki Vehtari, Andrew Gelman, and Jennifer Hill ?

same thought , nice examples helps to reduce learning curve IMO

[thin lintel]

wtf?

[north locust]

lol?

poetry sucks

[delicate wren]

Convolutional No-idea No-clue

[north locust]

salt die white noise?

:)

have a good night opal

[delicate wren]

data governance sounds like a cursed cross-over of Oracle and EU

[wooden dome]

How many of you do workout?

I just had workout

It is painful

[north locust]

Painful?

[wooden dome]

and all of the body burn

[wooden dome]

Yes

[north locust]

Don't overdo it if you aren't doing it often.

Sure, you'll feel tight and sore in wherever you trained, but it should be bearable and only last for a few days

[wooden dome]

(50 x 3) x 3 weighted jumping rope.
30 pull-ups
Streching and Yoga

[wooden dome]

I have to increase it, it has been 2 weeks stuck on 1 set of 150 reps of jumping rope.
And 10 pull-ups

[north locust]

well don't force it

[subtle pumice]

has anyone heard of nethack?

[wooden dome]

I think I can do more

[wooden dome]

No

[north locust]

If you say so, but don't complain when you get injured...

[wooden dome]

I don't know how but I feel good for the whole day

After workout

My digestion and sleep cycle is good and as well as overall strength

I'll add pushups as well

[north locust]

I know how. It's because you exercised. And contributed towards bettering your health.

[wooden dome]

After yoga, I no longer feel anxiety and urge to use social media at all

[wooden dome]

Do you workout as well?

[north locust]

congrats!

[north locust]

nope

not really

[delicate wren]

@crystal aurora gym bro signal is in the sky

[north locust]

is billybobby still talkin about gym stuff?

and/or food?

[wooden dome]

Nah

I do raw workout

No gym

I have weighted rope

and I use anything to workout

https://youtube.com/@satvicyoga?si=CBT2mGH34RXondrM

I would recommend this channel for Yoga

Quite helpful

[delicate wren]

no, I just happened to have photoshop opened at the time

[wooden dome]

Thanks

I use weighted rope to jump

stretch+ yoga

Pull ups, where ever I can

and walk occasionally 3 to 5km

[mild flume]

@stuck bluff is my mic working?

I'm guessing no. Love you folks

[stuck bluff]

Sorry, I didn't notice your text. Had my screen off.

[mild flume]

All good

Just weird since I've never had my mic not work like that

[elder wraith]

Horray!

[stuck bluff]

@white inlet 👋

[white inlet]

Hi

[stuck bluff]

@viral steeple 👋

[subtle pumice]

https://vimeo.com/2041538?share=copy

[wooden dome]

Is iko good?
He has been streaming email with wise words about company and recruiter based in the US, established in India.

[wooden dome]

@subtle pumice

[delicate wren]

Farming Simulator 2077

@thin lintel Nokia bought Bell Labs

@thin lintel Finland Soviet Union said `no', likely

yeah

Spain joined the wrong server, playing separately from the rest

[stuck bluff]

@pliant falcon 👋

[delicate wren]

playing Noctuary again

big game

[thin lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UOkMIIGp3U&list=RD3UOkMIIGp3U&start_radio=1

[delicate wren]

good game but kind of a not-for-everyone genre I guess
hybrid of VN and somewhat non-trivial combat encounters

@umbral rose can just move to AFK probably

@scarlet cedar you likely have automatic gain adjustment enabled

[delicate wren]

in Discord settings

ah

but anyway I highly recommend disabling automatic gain

I'm at exact 0% AI-generated code in all my projects

buzzword buzzworder

I'd expect having abnormal chromosome set would qualify as a chronic condition, and that's a very clear example of something that can't even theoretically be fixed

[pliant falcon]

Hii 👋

[delicate wren]

time for Torch to go back to Lua

@umbral rose slight audio loopback was happening, Krisp failing?

(for, like, a couple of seconds)

[umbral rose]

coming through my mic?

[delicate wren]

was

unusual

[umbral rose]

thanks for letting me know.

Back to ptt I go

[delicate wren]

likely Krisp can't differentiate well enough

[umbral rose]

Hey @peak frigate 👋

[delicate wren]

@peak frigate 👋

@thin lintel should've used that one model

might explode

I still don't have a CUDAble GPU

well I do have a GTX 1050 Ti but it's weak and not connected to anything

and last time I tried to use that, it refused to collaborate

[delicate wren]

maybe time to buy 5090 Ti

or wait until 6000s

I know they're back

4000s aren't available here

@umbral rose ungrow it

like

have two apples

one is +1

other is -2

can't just global cycle it anymore

[delicate wren]

but that's Monday

🐟 of war
cod of war

@tulip grail I've seen people play it

[tulip grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJtv52GuSWM

[delicate wren]

they went all-in on realistic-looking graphics

made a lot of money

2

yes

oh wait

endless legend 2 is available for purchase in Russia

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel this is like civ but magical space bs included

civ beyond stuff but probably better

ah, it also just got released

bought it

[tulip grail]

https://thehuntercotw.fandom.com/wiki/Ring-Necked_Pheasant

[delicate wren]

I should filter through my wishlist, it's too much of a mess

aaaa

brb downloading the game

(need to unVPN)

[misty sinew]

Hi

[ebon pawn]

ee

[deep mesa]

!voiceverify

[coarse hearth]

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[delicate wren]

@true valley I joined just in time for memory safety puns

@true valley
`unsafe space'
__leak__y heaphones

[shy pike]

hello

[delicate wren]

so I guess those weren't intentional

[shy pike]

i'm gonna go crazy soon, so it's nice to have a bit of background noise while i do so :)

well

it's a vocaloid

not an artist

more like an instrument

whatever, weeb stuff

[delicate wren]

voicebank

pre-AI meant just a collection of voice samples

[shy pike]

it does

that's true

[delicate wren]

so, by that logic RT is anime?

[true valley]

LOL

if they animated the RT I think it would quialify...

[shy pike]

it's...complicated

i...guess?

yeah probably

Avatar the last airbender is an "anime" and it's american

[deep mesa]

Avatar is sort of anime but not Japanese

[shy pike]

i tried to search for a guide on how to run a program and started reading a guide to compile pyhton from source code. close enough

[delicate wren]

@reef granite there's someone who does that regularly to benchmark stuff

[shy pike]

yeah idk, this guy is explaining me how to compile the python interpreter and i'm like "wait that's not... what i wanna do.. but uhhh go on..."

(for reference, in my life i wrote a total of 0 lines of python)

it's just that everyone does anything related to OCR in python for some obscure reasons

[delicate wren]

OpenCV is largely C/C++ but has Python bindings

it's mostly higher-level interface stuff that happens in Python

[shy pike]

https://github.com/kha-white/mokuro there's this guy that trained OCR specifically for manga and it works wonders but it's antique af and doesnt install through normal mediums

[delicate wren]

"yes, AF is very antique"

[shy pike]

(what's A.F.?)

[delicate wren]

joke, for, like, 2 people in the VC

[shy pike]

oh ok

do you "compile" stuff in python?

i'm trying to understand how running programs works, found out what a venv is 2 minutes ago

[shy pike]

n64 mario is super mario 64

no sunshine was gamecube

no i played alll 3d mario games ever

kinda a big mario fan

i did, the one on the wii

[glad turtle]

https://batocera.org/

[proper ridge]

https://vimm.net/vault/?p=play&mediaId=2710

[glad turtle]

i baked a cake for you 🍰

crazy

low-poly pixel 640x480

i never actually played n64

[wooden dome]

@mellow ermine You are parsi?

I met you before

In English Server several months ago

[glad turtle]

@sterile orchid are you related to C.F. Gauss?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Carl_Friedrich_Gauss.jpg/250px-Carl_Friedrich_Gauss.jpg

he looks like this

idk if you've seen him

he's got that batting eyebrow 🤨

[sterile orchid]

oh im a big gauss fan ngl lol

such a dapper gent lol

[glad turtle]

orly, what part of his work did you enjoy

[proper ridge]

His late night ones.

[sterile orchid]

most of his discrete mathmatic work tbh

hmmm im building a nlp app but i dont know how to make a new parsec tree struggling to give words emotion

[tulip grail]

@proper ridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbB0wBNQRRg

[sterile orchid]

that sounds really cool @proper ridge

[sterile orchid]

sounds like a lot of svd work

but thats really cool

i am familiar

yeah you can

LMAO

shitty looking app

i do that for frontend

[proper ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-bell-game-of-thrones-walk-of-atonement-cersei-lannister-gif-16635977892557113898

[tulip grail]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[sterile orchid]

LOL

[proper ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/disneytoons-animation-toons-cartoons-movies-gif-4130061433080881649

[sterile orchid]

no america

[tulip grail]

baustelle

[sterile orchid]

LMAO

[tulip grail]

@quick marsh

[quick marsh]

im suppressed😂 , but yeah it's wolftenstein ET, i grew up with it

yeah, i was looking at the rules for that, i need to wait 3 days too

it's fine, it's a big server

@tulip grail im some-what new to python, i do know some stuff but nothing crazy, now i want to start learning it again bc i hate my current job lol, looking to become a python developer within 6 months

[glad turtle]

I'm going to stream a webinar. This webinar is scheduled to start in 36min.
Anyone is free to join me in watching it.
It's about the effects of AI on the labor market. I'm curious to find out what these
people have to say.

"Topic: Bharat Chandar & Ruyu Chen | Canaries in the Coal Mine? Six Facts about the Recent Employment Effects of Artificial Intelligence"
Paper: https://digitaleconomy.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/Canaries_BrynjolfssonChandarChen.pdf

[tawny lily]

https://www.tawk.to

[glad turtle]

@shell mural hey, watching the talk mentioned above

@shell mural #voice-chat-text-1 message

👍

[vast minnow]

hello

i have a problem...

[glad turtle]

me too, in fact i have several, 150 of them

[vast minnow]

glsd someone responded

u see im trying to start studying python..so i started from programiz...it was simple and very easy to study and understand...until i was told to pay for the course which i dont have the money for....i went through the python resources but lots of names..a page filled with tiny letters overwhelmed me..that i cant even understand where to click

[glad turtle]

So you're looking for free learning/study resources. I think there's plenty, I google a lot for them all the time.
There's a lot of garbage out there, but some resources are good.

[vast minnow]

oh pls be my saviour

are they simple and less overwhelming likeprogramiz

[glad turtle]

I can't even save myself. Will I be able to save you? I don't know about that..

[glad turtle]

I can say I spent days looking for resources, and I found them. After I will finish going through them myself I'll be able to offer an opinion on them and recommend them.
But focusing on resources that have well put-together assignments, and real-world projects is one of the main criteria.
And a lot of courses/books fail catastrophically on this side, or even if they give assignments, they stay too much in the Hello-World level and waste tons of reader time.

[vast fulcrum]

Hello

[vast minnow]

yes u understand...im not good with textbook english....so when i see a course with most of them full of text i just burn my brain....

[glad turtle]

I like to burn my brain and read books. I like to set my brain on fire 🧠 🔥

[glad turtle]

@wooden dome hi

[wooden dome]

Hi

[glad turtle]

this guy is climbing a 52m tree

idk how he's gonna get down tho

[wooden dome]

Live?

[glad turtle]

recording

i think a drone must be filming him

[wooden dome]

Well, I guess he will

I like how he can climb 52 meter

[glad turtle]

his back muscles are evidence that it's not his first time

[wooden dome]

Yep

@glad turtle Could you share me the video?

I would like to watch him climb in free time

[glad turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8-DVJg058A

[wooden dome]

Thanks man

[glad turtle]

doesn't seem to be a drone, seems more like some antenna with a camera attached to him..

[wooden dome]

Could be a 360 camera

[glad turtle]

yes

[wooden dome]

I don't know why but it is satisfying to watch him

As if my mind craves such daring stuff

[glad turtle]

if he makes the wrong decision on which branch/mangrove to climb down and it doesn't support his weight, it's game over

looks like he climbs down the same path he went up

[wooden dome]

But imagine the feeling he would have

Feeling close to death and escaping it

Refreshing pleasure with a hint of addiction

[glad turtle]

a lot of fear

[wooden dome]

Smart move

[glad turtle]

i'm not sure what the humidity is there but it must be humid, slippery

[wooden dome]

I don't know why but I feel quite satisfied and calm

I'm almost epy

It is nice having you iko and thanks for the stream and appealing climbing video

Enjoy and cheers

[stuck bluff]

@ocean kayak 👋

[stuck bluff]

@cursive valve 👋

[fair heron]

hi @stuck bluff

[austere holly]

how can i joing voice text

[delicate wren]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[delicate wren]

(as for speaking)

[austere holly]

please can i talk

i want to helping some thing

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[stuck bluff]

@valid cloud @fathom ore 👋

[fathom ore]

Greetings

[valid cloud]

hi

im supressed

[fathom ore]

@stuck bluff im not able to talk right now

[wooden dome]

She who, who she?

[willow lava]

they covered alot of attention

so i don't think its a flopo

[glad turtle]

@daring scroll brb 2min, kitchen

[buoyant berry]

@daring scroll What did you say sorry?

[stuck bluff]

hoya

[delicate wren]

I don't think it works

[stuck bluff]

Watched Joker because it was on. It hits very strange notes.

It's not a movie you can really enjoy until the end, and it's weird because he's basically a villain and you're made to root for him.

Phoenix.

Nooo, I haven't. I saw a trailer.

A shame, because omg Gaga.

Like, yaaas.

They've got to show off her pipes.

60%?! Filthy degenerates!

I was going to say chicken butt.

[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff while you're away from YouTube, look how its UI is dying:

this is constantly visible in full screen

over the video

I should resume playing Endless Legend 2 at some point

at least to finish the tutorial game

[delicate wren]

@thin lintel so far I'm not yet sure whether it's closer to Civ6 or Civ7

it does have districts just like those

I guess the eras being more distinct is like Civ7

the big difference that I know so far is how it handles the sea

there are no naval units

the ocean gradually dries out

temporary bridges over the rivers is an unusual mechanic

(most unit can build them)

its equivalent of generals, heroes, is more detailed/useful

and also it's a very complex game

I've been ill for something like a month now

cold, couple weeks of coughing afterwards, now cold again

I've just remembered

another computer should arrive near today

hmm, it's getting delayed

(and the new skirt is getting delayed even more)

beep boop explode machine

[austere holly]

hello who is online now ?

[glad turtle]

https://linear.axler.net/LADR4e.pdf

[true charm]

thanks

[cunning viper]

hello

how r you ?

guys

oo

hayluu opal sir

Milien where are you from btw ?

ooh newyork ?

[stuck bluff]

It's up to you, Europe, Europe! 🎶

...I made myself sad.

[cunning viper]

damm aura -111111111

[cunning viper]

howw

[stuck bluff]

Because at this point it kind of is up to Europe.

[cunning viper]

[wooden dome]

I just had a talk with a Ukrainian Man who lost his limbs in war.
He expressed his frustration towards Europeans and Zelensky.
He told me he thinks Ukrainians are trapped in Cage hunted one by one and people won't realise but our country is sold to the US and we are slaves now.

[cunning viper]

wha

[wooden dome]

Yeah I was shocked to know 😮

[cunning viper]

me too now

[wooden dome]

I assumed he would be pro Europeans or Pro American

But it came out different

He told me he gets an extra 5% taxed like most Ukrainian, this tax is called military tax

[cunning viper]

oohkk

[cunning viper]

damm

[wooden dome]

I asked, he should sell his assets and leave Ukraine.
He replied, if I could I would have, but we are trapped in Cage

[delicate wren]

a lot of Ukrainians are pro-EU but are annoyed by EU not doing enough

[cunning viper]

bruhh we are gards of the voice chat garding bugfoot ,fkorsytyzz,iko,dmrs

[cunning viper]

broo kind of sejj

[stuck bluff]

Use your words.

[cunning viper]

?

[delicate wren]

Zelensky publicly acknowledged the overall sentiment within the country is already against him, so not much surprising there

[cunning viper]

what's this ?

[delicate wren]

and the amount of discontent within the EU with EU's own handling of it is quite high too

[wooden dome]

He told me he found it disappointing that Ukraine chose to take sides. According to him, Ukraine should have remained neutral and maintained good relationships with its neighbors, including Russia. He believes Russia is intentionally holding back against Ukraine; otherwise, it could have destroyed the country within a week.

[delicate wren]

Russia forces non-neutrality on its neighbours

USSR did the same, but even more actively

Finland, for example, was only neutral-ish because Russia was temporarily focused on other things after the fall of the USSR

[glad turtle]

I heard deep in the Amazon forest there are Political Pythons 🐍 .
Someone got bit by one and ended up in.. the parliament/gov?

[wooden dome]

Yep

[delicate wren]

during the initial invasion, Russia didn't hold back, the army was just overly arrogant

[wooden dome]

I mean yeah he hates him, as per him Ukrainian Man are forced to be military against the will.

[cunning viper]

wha

[delicate wren]

there is no debate about whether or not it's "against their will", everyone knows it is

that's what mobilisation is

[glad turtle]

How did Zelensky manage to become president of a country.

[wooden dome]

To impose an emergency and not conduct further election

[stuck bluff]

*Putin invades* Omg what about all the bad things Zelenskyy did!

[delicate wren]

no

[wooden dome]

What else could be reason?

[delicate wren]

@wooden dome now you're entering into discussion territory where you know fuck all about, so just shut the fuck up

[glad turtle]

Could you.. name one thing Zelensky did? I find it difficult to do so

[wooden dome]

Nvm

[delicate wren]

don't be entitled to claiming something just because you're ignorant

[wooden dome]

My bad

[glad turtle]

That's how he stays president yes. But how did he become president.
It's just so confusing..

[stuck bluff]

People voted.

[glad turtle]

Votes are so insane these days...

[wooden dome]

Idk man, all I know he is corrupt for sure.
He wears luxury watches, suits,etc being the president of the country in the war zone

[cunning viper]

dont tell me i just said something wrong 💀

[glad turtle]

Idk about watches/suits. But there was an investigation showing he bought 4 mansions during the war.

[delicate wren]

promise of de-escalation, which, as soon as he became president, he fulfilled within the then-Russia-occupied regions

it's the further Russian invasion (~fourth, in 2022) which turned his stance 180

[stuck bluff]

Were you a part of that part of the conversation? I'm not saying you're unwelcome, I'm just struggling to imagine how you thought it was about you at all.

You didn't say anything wrong there.

You're fine.

[wooden dome]

https://share.google/5Hi1c2b1h16pWceH0

[delicate wren]

the entire Ukrainian government is corrupt, it's been that way the whole 21st century, just like in Russia

[glad turtle]

@thin lintel that he also bought 4-5 mansions too

[delicate wren]

this is no surprise at all

[cunning viper]

no no i was just asking kind of overthinker i am so just correcting myself

[wooden dome]

I mean his purchase is latest

[cunning viper]

thankyou sir

[delicate wren]

why "fourth":
first was Crimea
second was Southern Ukraine (where Putin failed completely)
third was Eastern Ukraine

[wooden dome]

Vladimir Putin is corrupt

No doubt about it

[delicate wren]

water is wet

[glad turtle]

@sly pond president of country criticises others for not sending equipment but wears expensive watches and buys many mansions

[cunning viper]

lol

[glad turtle]

@sly pond can you do the math for me?

@sly pond how many mansions is a patriot missile?

[cunning viper]

bruhh i cnt hear anyone

wth

[wooden dome]

https://share.google/gpj45T9FdmX4w4pK1

I don't think he has

[cunning viper]

🤣

[wooden dome]

As per article it is lie

[stuck bluff]

@glad turtle Please adjust your microphone or move away
away from it.

One or the other.

[wooden dome]

Btw the article is based in France so it can be biased

[cunning viper]

bruhh his laugh 🤣

[wooden dome]

Btw I do know he sure owns expensive watches and suits and these are the latest purchase

[glad turtle]

i don't know what i did. i feel like i got debate-jumped and then ppl left.

[cunning viper]

ig so

[delicate wren]

owning doesn't mean having purchased it

[cunning viper]

idk why

[glad turtle]

and then i was accused of trolling

[cunning viper]

mean can be gifted or what ?

[glad turtle]

i was also accused of propaganda, like wtf?

[delicate wren]

like, you literally have no fucking clue what you talk about if you instantly jump to asserting it's a purchase

[glad turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-ong-omg-omg-omg-omg-omg-really-gif-379149084205580229

[cunning viper]

ignored succesfully

[stuck bluff]

There has been some very powerful missing of points.

Big, patently obvious points.

[delicate wren]

do you want to get accused again but with a more thorough explanation?

[wooden dome]

Nvm.
I hope he can end war once and for all.
Because the longer the war is the harder life would be for Ukrainian

[delicate wren]

as soon as the war ends, he leaves either voluntarily or by force

[wooden dome]

Yep

[glad turtle]

i mean a request for citation was made, i myself don't have the energy to pursue that
yes, the burden of making the difference between fact and fiction is pressing on my shoulders, especially when i get cornered by people out of the blue

i didn't really sign up for digging through piles of newspapers archives and documents many of which are written in languages i don't even know

or to fact-check

[delicate wren]

you made a propagandist claim in an assertive way without any certain basis for it

[delicate wren]

then shut up and don't say lies to begin with?

[glad turtle]

i mean.. i wouldn't call that assertive, i am a laid back man, i sit comfortably in an arm-chair

[delicate wren]

.

no qualification of you being non-assertive there

[glad turtle]

so i'm a victim of disinformation and fake news i guess then..

[delicate wren]

victim and accomplice

[wooden dome]

https://share.google/lEGOxNAjvlFD2VeS1

I think he is corrupt

[glad turtle]

accomplice? i am a man sitting on a chair typing on a keyboard.. 😐

[delicate wren]

second part of your message does not relate to the first word at all

spreading hate speech online can be described the same way as "just typing on a keyboard"

ffs grow up and take responsibility for what you say

[thin lintel]

The article does not prove that President Zelensky is personally corrupt, and it does not explicitly claim that he is.

Proof: The article offers no evidence that President Zelensky has personally engaged in corrupt acts, such as taking bribes, embezzling funds, or using his office for personal financial gain. To "prove" corruption would require concrete evidence of personal misconduct, which is absent from this text.

Claim: The article itself, as a piece of reporting, does not make the direct statement "Zelensky is corrupt." Instead, it reports on the actions he has taken and the reactions of his critics.

try again

[wooden dome]

Why would he fear an anti corruption body?

[delicate wren]

what makes you think he fears it?

@wooden dome why are you afraid of cats?

[wooden dome]

I mean he took control of these body

[wooden dome]

To be honest it is complicated, I like them but I hate to pet them

[delicate wren]

tbf I could've picked a more absurd example

[thin lintel]

If you make a claim that 'someone/something IS something' and you post the 'resource' for it is't the point of proving that something/someone IS? If you can't back up claims then say 'I think something/someone MIGHT be this and that'

[delicate wren]

please don't just send .s and random emojis for the sake of qualifying for voice verification,
participate in conversations instead

[wooden dome]

Okay

[glad turtle]

life is hard in Europe(but also other places)

at least i get to sleep and chill

[wooden dome]

Life is hard for the average joe everywhere

[rotund olive]

Yo

[vernal ocean]

yo

wsp

[misty sinew]

I like chezz berber

[sharp totem]

Yo

[lament wharf]

Good

Ooh I didnt knew that

[wooden dome]

Hello iko

[stuck bluff]

@woeful scroll 👋

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[woeful scroll]

Ok

Oh

I need to text every ten minutes?

Alr

What are you up to

Oh

You do graphic design?

Did you make that profile ?

That so cool

I am working on models

No blender

Game mode

Rn its a sword

Katana

And i make some Italian
Brain rot too

Yes

I am going to eat my dinner now

[stuck bluff]

@heady carbon 👋

[heady carbon]

hello

wish i could talk lol

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[heady carbon]

;-;

[stuck bluff]

@agile coral 👋

[agile coral]

hi

[zealous sentinel]

hello @stuck bluff

good how are you?

oh all good man

i would unmute but i havnt been here for long so dont have perms lol

yes i have, i need to be here for 3+ days

hows ur day going anyway

i see.

hope ur doing all good anyway dude!

no worries

i got to go but have a grate rest of ur day mate!

[stuck bluff]

Great.

[zealous sentinel]

lol

[stuck bluff]

@tidal stone 👋

[tidal stone]

Hello

Cant mic xd

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[glad turtle]

@misty sinew #voice-verification

[chrome kestrel]

How to get voice verification

[stuck bluff]

Text activity. Join in conversations, start them, etc, in the conventional fashion. Then, after a time, press the button in #voice-verification . If you don't yet qualify, rinse, repeat.

[chrome kestrel]

Alright cool

[main copper]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[delicate wren]

@stuck bluff technically that role isn't the one which gives permissions, it's just the pingable one

also some admins without mod role exist

[thin lintel]

@wary fable

[unkempt surge]

@next spoke

[tulip grail]

@next spoke

[delicate wren]

ML in ML

match

kind of

match 1 + 2:
    case y if y > 0:
        ...
    case y if y == 0:
        ...

I do not think therefore I do not am

Descartes

[delicate wren]

well, almost ML

Haskell is not really an ML derivative

but

closely related to it

machine learning in metalanguage (pun being both are ML)

Haskell took the type system from ML iirc

I switched from Haskell to Rust 3 years ago

similar type system, but a bit easier for me to write

also performance

I tried benchmarking concurrency in Haskell and it just exploded

like

even Python was better for it

somehow

it's specifically scheduling that I take problem with

Go has arena GC (cleaning up a lot at once) iirc

control of how tasks run

if you want to go fast, then do Fortran

Haskell tries very hard to model IO and concurrency in such a way that you never interact with the scheduler in code

[delicate wren]

, since that's been getting SIMD support in language the earliest historically

and if you really need fast numeric computations, then you need to do that on GPU

[next spoke]

https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/clang-ghc.html

[delicate wren]

it's just not too slow compared to C from what I'm seeing there

also not seeing compilation flags and other details on that page itself

maybe it is somewhere in the source of the benchmarks

!paste @unkempt surge

[coarse hearth]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
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[delicate wren]

I've seen those and similar Haskell benchmarks before

there was some other FP language that got similarly close to C

I think it was Standard ML

some implementation thereof

programming language

ML -> Standard ML -> OCaml
   -> Haskell

(roughly)

Haskell branched off, it has many differences from the rest of ML family (mostly syntactically)

more than it could consume during the benchmark (I had many GB free above the usage)

it ground to a halt because of CPU load

for some reason that scaled non-linearly

at some point it started melting down

absolutely refusing to progress

spawning many (I think 10K?) separate IO things and waiting on them all to complete

until some point, the load grows linearly

but when that point is reached, it just refuses to progress further

meanwhile Python is happily living handling ~100K tasks

for what I was doing I needed very high concurrency, but not necessarily high raw compute power

and the estimated requirements were somewhere around several thousands

[strong ginkgo]

Hey

[delicate wren]

they would be structured as a tree in the real program, yes

[strong ginkgo]

Why cant I speak?

[delicate wren]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

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[delicate wren]

I think I tried doing that benchmark too, but it wasn't successful either

in the end, it's all just epoll anyway, it's going to wait on all of them at once if it's done right

(at syscall level)

Rust allows me to do that trivially and doesn't explode

somehow

(so that's why I switched)

it's not Java-style OO

no inheritance of concrete implementations

[para-dimes]

digm is pronounced dime for whatever reason

"pragmatic FP" also known as "not FP"

elements of functional and object-oriented programming eventually just end up everywhere

though it's important to note that `OOP' as a term is very ambiguous

in SmallTalk's interpretation of OOP, Erlang is more OOP than SmallTalk itself

(as an example)

[strong ginkgo]

Do you generally talk about python in this server?

[delicate wren]

that Haskell program I was rewriting in Rust was previously in Python

[strong ginkgo]

I need to learn a python backend web framework 🙁

[slim hatch]

I’m still team “every loanword from another language should be pronounced with the rules of new language”

I’ve only ever heard paradigm spoken as a native English speaker and that spelling is insane

[delicate wren]

"English does have a consistent pronunciation system,
in fact, it even has several of them"

[slim hatch]

lol

[delicate wren]

@mild flume Haskell is happening

allegedly

[strong ginkgo]

Do non programmers know what paradigm means?

[delicate wren]

I'm trying to remember when `paradigm' was introduced to programming

it was during some turing award speech

[strong ginkgo]

I want to flex that I know what paradigm means because English is not my mother language

[delicate wren]

a year after speech which introduced FP

but

[slim hatch]

it’s a general word for things outside of programming too, google’s first example/description mentions art even

[delicate wren]

since, you can infer from that, during that speech paradigm wasn't yet used

so it was called functional style

`can programming be liberated from <...>' speech

... I just remember these random facts

Dafny is great with AI

(as something to be written by AI)

[strong ginkgo]

Is an OLAP a paradigm of relation databases?

Relational *

[delicate wren]

that's a type of a workload/usage, not of the database itself

[strong ginkgo]

Or no sql flavors an example of a different paradigm db speaking?

[delicate wren]

OLAP NoSQL exists

[strong ginkgo]

I didn't know there was olap nosql

[delicate wren]

@next spoke purely, until you call directly into C, which you can do in Haskell

there are escape hatches in Haskell

it's just they're intentionally hidden and difficult to use

but most of the code won't depend on that directly

[strong ginkgo]

The first time I was introduced to data warehouses that was like a new universe to me so I kind of relate that with a paradigm

[delicate wren]

=> so, yes, can prove in isolation

yeah, that should be external to the rest of the logic

[slim hatch]

man after having a CS professor who screamed the entire time they teached, having two polite people speak about a complex subject in soft voices is like therapy

[delicate wren]

spherical AI cows in CUDA vacuum

[mild flume]

Round cows

[delicate wren]

ceiling cows

[delicate wren]

(roughly history of that went through/will go through)
sync Python -> async Python -> Haskell -> Rust with monads (sync, async) -> async Rust
-> async Python (attempt 2), Java, C++29
(supported, vapourware, abandonware)

[slim hatch]

oh hemlock is an admin

good Pokémon for the team

[delicate wren]

I don't believe C++26 has enough features for what I want to do

so will wait until 29

[slim hatch]

It’s better to consider the position of your conversation partner even if they’re illogical I think. Helps defuse/explain things better

also mood on your wife’s part, it’s hard to escape it on social media

and harder to escape it IRL if it affects you directly

yeah