voice-chat-text-1

[mild flume]

I assure you it's not everyone

[onyx kernel]

No i dont have them for a week or two, I'm just on break until then

[mild flume]

Any that you're super worried about?

[misty sinew]

huh

[onyx kernel]

Networks as well as a maths module

[misty sinew]

@mild flume

[mild flume]

Not sure if I'd call ChatGPT the end all be all of information

@sly pond Surveys

"Do you like this art"

I could see that being whether art is better or not

What's the term... Enshitification?

@ashen willow Yo

@ashen willow Wrong channel, nerd (said with love)

[ashen willow]

HI

[elder wraith]

I’m not sure what I walked into, but I’m here for it

[misty sinew]

Most people say that artificial intellect is developing but I don't think I believe it because when I ask simple questions it leads me to the wrong places and it is best for us to make our own decisions

[mild flume]

Eh... there's going to be poor quality things as development happens

[elder wraith]

Nope

[mild flume]

Narp?

[ashen willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMr3-ShzB08&t=14s

[patent heron]

@fierce merlin just chillin

im just venting over eldorado being terrible

how does a sheet of all your sales not include your net amount???

like every other website

you can sell items from games on eldorado

i have business where i sell game items

im writing a program to combine all the data from all my websites

but eldorado just doesnt have net amount for some reason

like what

even for normal things

you need net amount for taxes???

so you know what fees to deduct from taxes

from the platform

i submit the exported sheets from all the different websites

and it combines them all

gives me metrics

etc

but i cant do that with eldoraado

cuz no net amount

[winged ore]

^Chernobyl humantifier

[patent heron]

i dont know what to do tho cuz it kind of just ruins my program

there is no point in it without one of the websites

data

[patent heron]

@fierce merlin it figures out he best location i believe

it depends on the server operates tho

they can also manually select server

ask deepseek

it starts talking about it

then it gets rid of it

mid way of telling u

"we cannot display this"

[dry geyser]

???

[patent heron]

taiwan is china wym

@winged ore

definitely the tiny island is real china

and the big one is not

central america is north america

buddy boy

not south america

central america is apart of north america

@fierce merlin im pretty sure they are pretty open about being lady boys if u ask. i mean i only saw one video, so idk if its true, but some guy asked everyone on the streets

and they all said they were

(if they were)

[delicate wren]

@dry geyser what would you like to stream?

[dry geyser]

yes

thank you

[delicate wren]

(which project/whatever, more specifically)

[dry geyser]

what ive been working on

[delicate wren]

!stream 1318626588560199692

[coarse hearth]

✅ @dry geyser can now stream until <t:1744663104:f>.

[patent heron]

@dry geyser search up common information in a hospital management system

then make up mock information for patients you will input

save their data, maybe add login screen for "patients"

and they can view their information through the system

im just throwing you ideas

of what i think is in a hospital system

if you would to "ship" this product

Redacted Script Font is my favorite

google font

its not an actual font i was trolling

[delicate wren]

VSCode with Zapfino font is a truly scary combination

[patent heron]

its real, but its not one u use

it is just cursive scribbles. "redacted"

@winged ore i have ukrainian girlfriend

USA

USA

USA

just mute him

[delicate wren]

@winged ore it's being handled

I don't know any ML-related servers

I do know how to make a neural network out of just numpy and basics of how stable diffusion works internally, but not much beyond that

[winged ore]

@delicate wren 🔥

[delicate wren]

isn't it ranking there not rating

codeforces is where rating is

ah

I don't participate in contests in generally

both sites have global ranking
which is just "top N among all users"

I haven't participated in a single codeforces contest since making the account

which was somewhere around 2016/2017

correction: 2018

there are no formal requirements afaik

mods vote on who becomes a helper
admins vote on who becomes a moderator
(approximately)

[winged ore]

the rich help out the riches smh (jk)

[delicate wren]

I think my VPN just died

#roles message

okay it's back to working

[winged ore]

https://imgur.com/cJQyibm

[fair pebble]

i need assistance'

[delicate wren]

with what?

[fair pebble]

programming

[delicate wren]

is there a more specific issue?

[fair pebble]

its an excel question actually xD

VBA i think it's called

[delicate wren]

world's most famous functional programming language
except for the VBA part

yeah, MS Office macro thing is VBA

[fair pebble]

yeah thats where Im having an issue

and my professor doesn't know what to do T.T

face-->desk

[delicate wren]

what are you using VBA for?

and what version of Excel are you using?

[fair pebble]

im making a solver macro

16.94

mac version of excel

I have done the hard part of my project, this macro thing just doesn't wanna work!

[delicate wren]

not entirely sure, but this looks like a version that should be supporting LAMBDA functions and Python

though note that MS Office's Python support is cloud-based, so probably rate-limited

[fair pebble]

yeah I wanna learn how to use python through this in the future, but I wanted to see if you could fix this issue that I'm having if possiable

[delicate wren]

is the current issue that it doesn't work in some environments? or it doesn't work at all?

[fair pebble]

Im just trying to make a basic solver macro. nothing crazy. Everytime I attempt to run the imputs I manually put through the macro, I keep getting a compiling error "sub or function not defined"

I've tried so many different things but I just can't figure it out

[delicate wren]

does it give the name of the subroutine in question?

are you ever using recursion?

[delicate wren]

and are you calling functions on lines which come before the lines they defined on?

[fair pebble]

I don't know the coding lingo to be honest with you xD

[delicate wren]

where is SolverDelete defined?

[fair pebble]

is it not defined in the use of it? what exactly entails defining?

[delicate wren]

code in this screenshot defines a subroutine called solver

it's not clear what SolverDelete, SolverAdd, SolverOk and SolverSolve are referring to

[fair pebble]

that's weird. in the video material we had they had the same thing and it ran fine

[delicate wren]

okay, I found it, it's built-in

[fair pebble]

ah so there is no need to define, it's already defined

[delicate wren]

yes

for those four

[fair pebble]

then why am I getting compiling errors?

[delicate wren]

is it the whole error message or are there more details?

[fair pebble]

ill screenshot it sec

that's all I get

[delicate wren]

have you enabled the Solver Add-in in the settings?

1. Click the File tab, and then click Options below the Excel tab.

2. In the Excel Options dialog box, click Add-Ins.

3. In the Manage drop-down box, select Excel Add-ins, and then click Go.

4. In the Add-Ins dialog box, select Solver Add-in, and then click OK.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/vba/excel/concepts/functions/using-the-solver-vba-functions

[fair pebble]

still not working

apparently in VBA there is a reference thing that you have to enable solver macros I believe

but I can't get to it cause it's greyed out

[delicate wren]

in "Available Resources"?

[fair pebble]

in "tools"

[delicate wren]

Before you can use the Solver VBA functions in the Visual Basic Editor, you must establish a reference to the Solver add-in. In the Visual Basic Editor, with a module active, click References on the Tools menu, and then select Solver under Available References. If Solver does not appear under Available References, click Browse, and then open Solver.xlam in the \Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\Library\SOLVER subfolder. The following functions can be used to control the Solver add-in from VBA. Each function corresponds to an action that you can perform interactively, through the Solver Parameters, Solver Options, and Solver Results dialog boxes of the Solver add-in.

path there looks very Windows-y

also seemingly outdated

hmm

[fair pebble]

OK

I FIGURED IT OUT

WOOT WOOT

[delicate wren]

only 79 warnings left 🎉

[fair pebble]

lol

thanks for your help

hey Should I learn python on Juypter books? @delicate wren my Electrical engineering python book says I should through Anaconda nav

[delicate wren]

I'd prefer this over anaconda
https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/integration/jupyter/

uv is like pip but more venv-aware

you can try out anaconda for comparison but my experience is that it's almost universally a more confusing experience

[fair pebble]

Idk what pip or venv aware is but noted

[delicate wren]

pip is the package manager, venv is a way of isolating environments (installing packages per project instead of globally)

@patent heron ChatGPT is somewhat bad for explanations
you still need to cross-reference the original documentation

LLMs are problematic in how they make stuff up and openly lie

it's like talking to an incompetent psychopath but automated

[patent heron]

i personally think the paid one is pretty good for stuff nowadays no?

versus the free version

[delicate wren]

it fundamentally isn't

it can't be good

with current text-generation mechanism it's biased towards giving you some explanation over giving you only correct explanations

you need a lot of extra procedures to check what it says

if you can't do something without ChatGPT (at all, possibly taking longer time), almost always you won't be able to do it with ChatGPT

it's not an expert

it can lie and you won't notice

and it often does

you can never trust its output

always check for yourself

ask it to quote the relevant parts of docs instead of just shortening

when any text is shortened, some information is lost

there are basically no mechanisms in GPT itself to make sure that loss of information does not result in misinformation

unless you add extra stuff like reasoning model on top of it

[delicate wren]

(this is the main thing about this)

it frequently makes serious mistakes at all levels;
do not trust it; at least, compare results to other models and/or human-written text

[untold fern]

Alisa, by chance, do you know how to set up a decent GitHub?

[delicate wren]

if you're asking it to explain something, that already presumes you have some lack of knowledge;
ChatGPT output can't fill that gap, but you can make it tell you what to look for in the documentation

[delicate wren]

as in?

[untold fern]

I have a GitHub, but its empty. I dont know whats worth posting or what would be the best file types to showcase a project

or how to make it presentable to employers in general I suppose

[delicate wren]

collect everything that you can publish, filter afterwards

for all next projects you develop, start using GitHub from day one

[untold fern]

thats the part I suppose Im having an issue with

file management is far from my specialty :/

[delicate wren]

what IDE are you using?

[untold fern]

I mostly use VS code with a jupyter extension

and prefer R studio if im using R

[delicate wren]

VSCode has built-in Git support

for all projects going forward, do not write any code before you have a Git repository initialised

before committing any code, make sure you have .gitignore set up correctly

[untold fern]

I have to find out how to do all this 😭

how much bash do i need?

[delicate wren]

VSCode allows you to stage files one by one instead of everything at once

you should use the UI for now

you'll only need git CLI for adding a remote initially

when you create an empty GitHub repo it will tell you exactly what to do, in terms of adding a remote to an existing repository

it should be two commands

[untold fern]

uhh

also im not sure if i have the right one?

[delicate wren]

this allows you to both check if .gitignore is correct and to avoid staging half-ready code

!e

print(1.28 ** 12)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

19.342813113834072

[delicate wren]

19x in a year

!e

print(1.28 ** (12 * 10))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

7331559403129.608

[delicate wren]

only 7trillion in a year

(as in 7 trillion the initial amount)

not the cryptoscam levels of return but still

in 3 years it will be more than f64 can fit I think

"born with money, specifically negative amount thereof (born with debt)"

!e

print(2 ** (365 * 3))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

424468290327933077899172321362270868313591827166170171796412396789941591485700577725168502600236268509330570717307730733594960173226091561598610885712519647558930109356449697868214504505146272836463661266444474266024951117879061142292352688506346261899242491635006218284215125127159878846379621107411989327108285904649704773255168

[delicate wren]

hmm

oh wait

!e

print(2.0 ** (365 * 3))

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     print(2.0 ** (365 * 3))
004 |           ~~~~^^~~~~~~~~~~
005 | OverflowError: (34, 'Numerical result out of range')

[delicate wren]

yeah this

hmm

!d math.pow

[coarse hearth]

math.pow

math.pow(x, y)```
Return *x* raised to the power *y*. Exceptional cases follow the IEEE 754 standard as far as possible. In particular, `pow(1.0, x)` and `pow(x, 0.0)` always return `1.0`, even when *x* is a zero or a NaN. If both *x* and *y* are finite, *x* is negative, and *y* is not an integer then `pow(x, y)` is undefined, and raises [`ValueError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#ValueError).

Unlike the built-in `**` operator, [`math.pow()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/math.html#math.pow) converts both its arguments to type [`float`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#float). Use `**` or the built-in [`pow()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#pow) function for computing exact integer powers.

Changed in version 3.11: The special cases `pow(0.0, -inf)` and `pow(-0.0, -inf)` were changed to return `inf` instead of raising [`ValueError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#ValueError), for consistency with IEEE 754.

[delicate wren]

!e

from math import pow
print(pow(2.0, 365.0 * 3))

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     print(pow(2.0, 365.0 * 3))
004 |           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
005 | OverflowError: math range error

[delicate wren]

grrr

why

I want inf

I guess we'll have to resort to JS for that

VSCode/vim/ed

in web I use Outline primarily

I don't remember if I use anything else

vi is broken, nvim too, so I don't use those

except on a phone

there, nvim

just note that this is very rule 5 so we can't help you on that project in any way

[untold fern]

which is rule 5 again?

[delicate wren]

!rule 5

[coarse hearth]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[untold fern]

ohh

[delicate wren]

automation, code injection and item selling generally fall under that

[untold fern]

oh interesting

figured it more so referred to just uh

"ethical" hacking

[untold fern]

how bad would a powerpoint presentation be to throw into a GitHub?

[delicate wren]

how big is it?

[untold fern]

40 slides 😭

[delicate wren]

as in on-disk

[untold fern]

on-disk?

[delicate wren]

how many megabytes

[untold fern]

like kb/mb?

ohh

[delicate wren]

yes

[untold fern]

lemme check

[delicate wren]

either use Git LFS for those, or rewrite the presentation in TeX or some other textual format

[untold fern]

TeX as in LaTeX?

[delicate wren]

yes

[untold fern]

Is it hard to learn LaTeX?

any background I'd need?

[delicate wren]

it's not that hard

you can use Overleaf for it

it also has docs

[untold fern]

Overleaf differs how?

[delicate wren]

it's a hosted TeX rendering service

[untold fern]

and to actually create a LaTeX file do I need to install, anything

[delicate wren]

Overleaf is not installed locally

it's a website

there's also this
https://typst.app/universe/package/slydst/

typst is like a more modern TeX

it's so difficult for me to describe the musical "taste" I have

[untold fern]

why taste in quotes

[delicate wren]

because there isn't really one in my case

I just listen to whatever

yes, that does include things which are almost literally white noise

I think my linkedin profile is not funny enough for how useless it is

I have no memes in the About section, that needs fixing

well except the employment progression

but that's already duplicated in the Experience section so doesn't count

[raven flint]

I just use linkedin to keep in contact with current and former team mates. In case I need help getting a job later

[delicate wren]

I'm basically unhireable currently, especially for foreign companies

[raven flint]

ohh

oh, you're in russia

@delicate wren mind if I send you a connect on linkedin?

[delicate wren]

sure

[raven flint]

sent

[delicate wren]

the eventual consistency is very apparent given how long it took for the invitation to show up

[raven flint]

🤣

they need to get rid of the sleep(10) in the code

[delicate wren]

I'd pronounce that name as either ag-nick or ag-nɨck (ɨ from IPA)

[jovial cradle]

hey peeps

[delicate wren]

: Jason<

sqlx's support for JSON is a bit inconsistent

though mostly works

[untold fern]

its just my initials + nyc 😭

i never really thought about pronouncing it

Most common ive heard is "agency" though

[jovial cradle]

the hell is sqlx

[delicate wren]

so A.G.-nick

[violet venture]

Take a look

[untold fern]

that could work as well

[delicate wren]

compile-time-checked/type-inferred SQL queries

[jovial cradle]

ah nice, yeah i'm reading the docs now

[delicate wren]

0 query building when using macros

it just runs what you give it

does not work well with MySQL bulk inserts

but why would you ever MySQL

works well enough with UNNEST in postgres

[untold fern]

whats wrong with it

[jovial cradle]

i don't understand rust macros well enough tbh

[delicate wren]

and in SQLite you can just insert in a loop

[jovial cradle]

I miss LINQ

[delicate wren]

approximately: takes arbitrary tokens as input and produces arbitrary tokens as output

when they're non-procedural, also makes sure not to mess with variable scope

[jovial cradle]

approximately: takes arbitrary tokens as input and produces arbitrary tokens as output
i'll need to do some reading

[delicate wren]

sqlx connects to the database during the execution of its macros

to check the query

[jovial cradle]

I feel like you're always talking about some new lib, do these tend to be ones you've started using or just been curious about on the day?

[delicate wren]

I've used sqlx for at least 4 separate projects so far

I avoided it for a long time

partially because I don't like writing SQL

but sqlx fixes the main issue I had with it: typing

or rather typing and having to run the query to check it, combined

it just "runs" the query for me during compilation

(it prepares it without executing)

[jovial cradle]

yeah I've been having to write SQL again it's been a while, the worst is having it function with Grafana's special variable syntax that only works in some views

[delicate wren]

it's a bit non-trivial to get sqlx to work with extensions in SQLite

I just gave up because realised I don't actually need the json extension

[jovial cradle]

LINQ in C sharp (hash key broke) was great as it was first class interface

[delicate wren]

octothorp catastrophe

[jovial cradle]

dict.where("key").equal("value).groupby("otherkey")

like that ish

[delicate wren]

PonyORM in Python reminds of LINQ syntax (not the method form)

[jovial cradle]

🇨#️⃣

[delicate wren]

select(p.pw_hash for p in User where p.username = "admin")

something like this

[jovial cradle]

oooo that's ncie

NCIS

[delicate wren]

btw, have you seen pep 750

!pep 750

[coarse hearth]

**PEP 750 - Template Strings**

Status

Accepted

Python-Version

3.14

Created

08-Jul-2024

Type

Standards Track

[jovial cradle]

I've just had to solo manage migrating our influxdb/grafana on-prem stack to GCP bigquery/grafana saas and it's been a nightmare

[delicate wren]

another reason why I avoid MySQL:
postgres and SQLite use the same argument syntax

[jovial cradle]

yes i have! not sure how i feel about them really, one more way to do .format really? but good for lazy evaluation needs?

[delicate wren]

it's not a format-replacement

it's for doing, for example, SQL query interpolation safely

[jovial cradle]

Does it provide validation around the string params?

[delicate wren]

it's like sql`SELECT pw_hash FROM users WHERE username = ${"admin"}` in JS

[delicate wren]

you get string segments and original values

[jovial cradle]

my JS sucks tbh

[delicate wren]

you can do whatever you want with those values afterwards

[raven flint]

@jovial cradle your name is killing me 🤣

[jovial cradle]

ah. so it offers the ability to check template.str_args[0] for instance

[jovial cradle]

Pydantic template strings when?

[jovial cradle]

ty man, glad you enjoy it

[delicate wren]

btw you can do t"" f"" combining different types of strings

string + string -> string
(template|string) + (template|string) -> template

[jovial cradle]

although I really don't want to build SQL queries str by str, it's pretty terrible

[delicate wren]

presumably for SQL it'd just replace with $N and then add an argument

I wonder if it would deduplicate

since some queries use the same argument multiple times

and databases have argument count limits

MySQL has something like 65K iirc

I don't remember what SQLite has

[jovial cradle]

rookie numbers

[delicate wren]

I only remember that it has 1GB query size limit

[jovial cradle]

change of topic slightly, how do you feel about uv?

i've slowly been influencing the platform teams at work so now a couple new tools are using it in CI and for dep resolution

[delicate wren]

I'm using it for every new Python project

and gradually migrating old ones to it

[jovial cradle]

not worried about the corpo rug pull potential?

i'm happy to just downgrade if it's really needed in future

[delicate wren]

forks will happen in that case, as usual

it's already advanced enough to matter for the ecosystem as a whole to be supported by the community

[jovial cradle]

but with how slow the python steering council is and new features are implemented, i can't see uv becoming closed source actually causing "breaking" changes in py repos for a long time

it's saved my ass potentially, i use pants build for our monorepo and the lockfiles generation is so goddamn slow i'm delaying bumping to new version where it's required. but i might've found a way to convert from uv lockfiles to pex lockfiles

[untold fern]

@delicate wren I dont fully follow pep8

what do you think about that?

Like its just the spacing thing

[delicate wren]

because you prefer it styled differently or because it's difficult to enforce the style?

[untold fern]

I use double quotes for everything, and I use more spacing then I see pep8 suggest?

like uh

[delicate wren]

double quotes is default in many formatting tools

you can configure autoformatters to follow styling you prefer

[delicate wren]

if you need to use more than two lines separation in a file, it's a hint that you have an hierarchy that should be expressed with either a class or a module

[untold fern]

sns.scatterplot(data = dataset, x = "column1", y = "column2")

i prefer more spacing

[delicate wren]

ah, this spacing

[untold fern]

i always see things within parameters all smushed

sns.scatterplot(data=dataset, x="column1", y="column2")

is what I normally see^

they might not even use spaces between commas either

that would rly irk me

[delicate wren]

I think this spacing is non-configurable

[untold fern]

meaning?

[delicate wren]

ruff seems to strongly enforce it
https://docs.astral.sh/ruff/rules/unexpected-spaces-around-keyword-parameter-equals/

there is no way to inverse that rule

(no way to make it prefer spacing)

seemingly

[untold fern]

i mean ive never come across an issue from it

[jovial cradle]

for solo project you can do as you like of course, but for collaborative ones you'll most likely end up conforming to one style that a linter/formatter enforces on you

[untold fern]

its truly illegible with a lot of parameters

with no spacing

[jovial cradle]

as people will naturally disagree in what they prefer, so you've gotta compromise with something you all hate 😅

[jovial cradle]

syntax highlighting helps

[delicate wren]

you should be splitting it into multiple lines at that point

usually one parameter per line

[untold fern]

I do

but like

its just so smushed

ig its just a me thing

I'd never prefer no spacing over with spacing

[delicate wren]

another question is why do you have a lot of parameters in the first place

[untold fern]

plotting functions or machine learning functions use a lot

or data manipulation ones, sometimes

[delicate wren]

are you factoring parameters which are repeated across functions out into **kwargs?

[untold fern]

I uh

dont know what you mean by that or how to do that 😭

[delicate wren]

something like this

common = {
  "size": 0.5,
  "style": "dotted",
}

plot(x0, y0, colour="red", **common)
plot(x1, y1, colour="green", **common)
plot(x2, y2, colour="blue", **common)

[untold fern]

oh thats pretty sick, but a lot of the time its all unique

different variables, different column labels, different algorithms, etc

[delicate wren]

@fierce merlin it might be a one-time bug

me and a few other staff members encountered that too even though all the staff is voice-verified automatically

I'm not actually sure on the exact numbers of how long I've been here

there was a 2019-2021 period, I but don't remember the months

[latent adder]

hello, I'm a beginner, I made a game and I'm having a lot of trouble exporting it to itch.io with pygbag, whenever I export it it doesn't work (it works when I run it with a command)

could anyone help me with this problem?

[stuck bluff]

'Lo.

I've been on a little less.

New plugin for a game. Adds a lot of content.

Buried myself in that a while.

A lot of that going around.

Apparently rabbits can eat bamboo.

That was a thing just mentioned.

[jade terrace]

:L

I went to say hello

but your mic was off :L

[stuck bluff]

I was listening.

[stuck bluff]

.

[jade terrace]

:L

I know sorry I got nervous :L

[delicate wren]

what kind of minesweeper satan was I trying to summon here I forgot already

[stuck bluff]

Tree of Life?

[jade terrace]

[delicate wren]

it's like a "what we can and can't distribute" diagram

the match needs to be processed in its entirety on one computer

it may, hypothetically, be de-provisioned and re-provisioned onto another one

but it's better in such case just to abort the match entirely

lobbies would be distributed because they're by-name not by-region

[jade terrace]

and this was for a game of minesweeper?

[delicate wren]

the pvp one

[candid garnet]

dead chat?

[ancient phoenix]

@mild flume I need your urgent assistance

Could you please allow @tight cipher to speak in voice

[delicate wren]

it is speaking presumably

the audio is happening

[ancient phoenix]

okay then it's my end

can't hear anything

[mild flume]

Are you able to hear me speak?

Did.... did you just ditch it down here? @ancient phoenix

[delicate wren]

can the bot survive being forcefully moved?

[untold fern]

it says there's a ton of people in vc

but i only see 2?

[untold tulip]

Python.

[stuck bluff]

@gritty sun 👋

[sturdy frost]

hello

[stuck bluff]

Yahoy.

[fair pebble]

hi

how are you doing?

I can only type atm 😦

Actually funny that you ask, I am currently working on learning C++ XD

[sturdy frost]

Oh, you havn't sent enough messages to get voice permissions

[fair pebble]

NOPE!

I wonder when that'll be the case!

[sturdy frost]

50 non-deleted messages in channels other than the bot command channels
Joined more than 3 days ago
Active for at least three different ten-minute blocks

[fair pebble]

yeah but I don't know how many messages I need to do

they have no counter

[sturdy frost]

read the #voice-verification channel

There is a counter

[fair pebble]

it just says you've not reached 50 messages yet

no counter in there

[sturdy frost]

You can use the ​!user​ command in ⁠bot-commands to see how close you are to meeting the requirements.

#bot-commands

[fair pebble]

AY

we almost there

[sturdy frost]

Yep

[fair pebble]

got 3 more to go 🙂

[sturdy frost]

Coolio

I guess you need to type a few more messages

[fair pebble]

What IDE do you use for python?

[sturdy frost]

I like pycharm

[fair pebble]

Ah I was looking into that one

[sturdy frost]

The community edition is free and works great.

[grave abyss]

but takes lot of space and resources to start -up the pycharm but vs code is much better

[neat mountain]

Vscode will do the same if it gets bloated with tons of extensions...

[misty sinew]

I prefer using PyCharm

It is more versatile

It's probably the best IDE for Python

[crystal rivet]

tf that was exactly the quesion i asked in the other channer

and everyone says vs code

[delicate wren]

PyCharm Professional is good but paid

in case of VSCode, you need to install extensions and other things

because it's not Python-specific

[crystal rivet]

i have the pro one

[delicate wren]

in that sense it is actually more versatile

[misty sinew]

yes

[crystal rivet]

jet brains has a partnership with my uni so i have their products for free

[delicate wren]

if you have a PyCharm license (e.g. from wherever you study that), use it

yeah, then PyCharm Professional is definitely the choice

not because it's better but because you get to try it

[crystal rivet]

i dont see the differance between the pro and the comunity version tho

[delicate wren]

data visualisation, databases, remote development, some other things

[crystal rivet]

damn

far from that level

[delicate wren]

I had the same with my school, switched to VSCode once the license ran out

[misty sinew]

Can someone tell me anything about matplotlib?

[delicate wren]

!e

import numpy as np
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
x = np.linspace(-4, 4, 100)
xp = np.linspace(-np.pi, np.pi, 10)
fp = np.sin(xp)
f = np.interp(x, xp, fp)
plt.plot(x, f)
plt.savefig('out.png')

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[delicate wren]

ig the fact that we support it in the bot counts as "anything"

though this example doesn't illustrate much

I copied it from my earlier message some time ago

was an example of interpolation

[misty sinew]

got it thx

[stuck bluff]

Boop.

You have.

They're cats. It's part of the job description.

You can be standing in a room of people and feel lonely, or in the middle of nowhere by yourself and feel connected to the whole world.

!voice @somber knoll

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[stuck bluff]

When do you?

[somber knoll]

hi i am new in the server

[stuck bluff]

A step followed by another.

[somber knoll]

@stuck bluff thanks for your concern but i dont have voice access in the server

[stuck bluff]

Yes. That ball is in your court. 🙂

[somber knoll]

would you like to be my friend

@stuck bluff

[stuck bluff]

I'm everyone's friend.

(This is a lie.)

[somber knoll]

ok

but i am trying to find some friends with whom i can creat a fun game which might also be published so would u like be be the first member of it

[stuck bluff]

Not especially. 🙂

[somber knoll]

ok

but we can be mutual friends??

[stuck bluff]

Friendship is grown.

[somber knoll]

can you talk strait forward pls

[stuck bluff]

I hope not.

[somber knoll]

ill conside this a yes i guess

[stuck bluff]

A man on a horse asks for a dollar.

[somber knoll]

what does that mean

[stuck bluff]

If wishes were horses.

[somber knoll]

you are weird but in a good way and also really welcoming i kind of like your personality

[stuck bluff]

@sharp smelt @primal totem 👋

[stuck bluff]

You have poor taste.

[somber knoll]

you are making fun of yourself

[sharp smelt]

@stuck bluff hello 👋

[stuck bluff]

It's probably a touch too far away.

[somber knoll]

i didnt got that

[stuck bluff]

Microphone to cat interval.

A little bit

[somber knoll]

can you talk strait forword

bcz i am not getting anything

what you are saying

and accpect my friend request

[stuck bluff]

@glad turtle Two possibilities I can think of. They're giving you a Kobayashi Maru, or they're incompetent.

Or your comprehension skills are lacking...

It does to account for that possibility as well.

[somber knoll]

hi @sharp smelt

[sharp smelt]

hey @somber knoll

[somber knoll]

would you like to be friends with me

i am in class 9 in india and looking for some people whom i can code with in python

looking forward for making a game with a community

[stuck bluff]

There are game jam events from time to time.

[somber knoll]

answer @sharp smelt

[stuck bluff]

Twice a year.

[somber knoll]

ok so

[stuck bluff]

There's a channel open at the moment for it.

[sharp smelt]

I hardly get time for coding.
Hang around for a bit, maybe you'll find someone to code with.

[stuck bluff]

Mhm.

[somber knoll]

ok @sharp smelt

but we can be friends

[stuck bluff]

Mother's lap heaves and lists.

The bed behaves.

[somber knoll]

@stuck bluff you were talking about a channel open at the moment

??

[stuck bluff]

#pyweek-game-jam

[somber knoll]

hi @thin lintel

[stuck bluff]

What genre of game are you interested in creating?

[somber knoll]

i havent given too much thought on this but a platformer type

but one thing is for sure it would be very difficult to win it

[stuck bluff]

@rotund flint 👋

What is the purpose of a game?

@pure forge 👋

[rotund flint]

hello

[somber knoll]

i have not decidea much things and that is why looking for a community to brainstorm

hello @rotund flint

what i want is to post shorts of the incomplete game on youtube and take the publics openion whild developping the game os that ilready have a customer base

[stuck bluff]

I mean to say, the general idea behind a game is fun. A game can provide fun by being challenging. However, care must be taken to not make it so challenging it becomes more frustrating than fun.

[somber knoll]

yes

it has to be frustrating

so that people smash their devices while playing it

i should be labled internes hardest game

full of surprise and unexpexted things

[stuck bluff]

I think that title may currently belong to Getting Over It.

[somber knoll]

i want to get over getting over it

a new game

may be multiplayer

@stuck bluff accpect my friend request so that we can work on it i want people like you to help me

[stuck bluff]

I will not be accepting your friend request at this time.

I am often able to assist.

If you have a problem, ask.

I will either know the answer, or, if I don't, can probably guide you to somewhere you can find out what you need to know.

[somber knoll]

ok thanks

but i do need a community so guid me

[stuck bluff]

!resources

[coarse hearth]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[stuck bluff]

!kindling

[coarse hearth]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[stuck bluff]

#❓｜how-to-get-help

[somber knoll]

thanks @stuck bluff

hi @thin lintel

[stuck bluff]

@keen socket 👋

[twin haven]

@thin lintel u know data engeering..?

bad response exit

[silk hill]

data engineering kinda tough

[twin haven]

i did'nt know i'm not advertising it

[stuck bluff]

!rule 9 🙂

[coarse hearth]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[twin haven]

anyways

[rotund flint]

whats up

ipconfig / all | findstr DNS

[stuck bluff]

@twilit vault 👋

[twilit vault]

Hm

Yo what you guys doing here?

@stuck bluff

[rotund flint]

chiichiitaputapacacu

i grade

bruh anyone here

[patent heron]

32 3801 45 123

• 698 - 2 + 43 + 49

---

[delicate wren]

turns out I accidentally muted the discord tab

makes sense why I couldn't hear anything now

I know I'm coming from somewhat of a mathematical education eco-chamber, so this question might sound weird, but:
do schools teach set theory?

e.g. Cantor's diagonal argument

proof that each set is smaller than the set of all its subsets

even if it's infinite

I think we had that in 8th grade

like I actually don't know what "normal" mathematical education is like

yeah, vsauce mentioned that in the context of real numbers

veritasium recently too

[delicate wren]

several years ago

[delicate wren]

this year

I think, where I live, basics of set theory are taught as part of the IT classes in addition to mathematics

[delicate wren]

though we weren't taught the entirety of ZFC in the special school

[patent heron]

elif split_problem[0] is int:

[delicate wren]

isinstance

!d isinstance

[coarse hearth]

isinstance

isinstance(object, classinfo)```
Return `True` if the *object* argument is an instance of the *classinfo* argument, or of a (direct, indirect, or [virtual](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-abstract-base-class)) subclass thereof. If *object* is not an object of the given type, the function always returns `False`. If *classinfo* is a tuple of type objects (or recursively, other such tuples) or a [Union Type](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#types-union) of multiple types, return `True` if *object* is an instance of any of the types. If *classinfo* is not a type or tuple of types and such tuples, a [`TypeError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#TypeError) exception is raised. [`TypeError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#TypeError) may not be raised for an invalid type if an earlier check succeeds.

Changed in version 3.10: *classinfo* can be a [Union Type](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#types-union).

[delicate wren]

is checks if two objects are the exact same object

[delicate wren]

things like induction were just kind of a given

[delicate wren]

this is same as elif int is split_problem[0]:

i.e. it doesn't do type checking like in C#

can't you just int() it then check for equality

what is the desired result?

[tawny void]

its been 3 month since i join here and im still unverified

[coarse hearth]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @tawny void until <t:1745170728:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[delicate wren]

!tvmute 1080961374731112538 2w the answer to your question is no, you can't spam

[coarse hearth]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @tawny void until <t:1746379759:f> (14 days).

[delicate wren]

@patent heron you actually need a different method

!d str.isdecimal

[coarse hearth]

str.isdecimal

str.isdecimal()```
Return `True` if all characters in the string are decimal characters and there is at least one character, `False` otherwise. Decimal characters are those that can be used to form numbers in base 10, e.g. U+0660, ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT ZERO. Formally a decimal character is a character in the Unicode General Category “Nd”.

[delicate wren]

@patent heron it is not a solution if you're dealing with more than ASCII

some digits are not decimal

!e

print(int("৪୨"))  # answer to everything

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

42

[delicate wren]

all digits are numeric
all decimals are digits
int() accept a digit as valid if an only if it's decimal

if it's a digit but not decimal, it will fail

generally

@surreal bolt which type of packages?

have you considered using Docker?

@surreal bolt use uv

with venv

or is it breaking even with venv currently?

!d re

[coarse hearth]

re

Source code: Lib/re/

This module provides regular expression matching operations similar to those found in Perl.

Both patterns and strings to be searched can be Unicode strings (str) as well as 8-bit strings (bytes). However, Unicode strings and 8-bit strings cannot be mixed: that is, you cannot match a Unicode string with a bytes pattern or vice-versa; similarly, when asking for a substitution, the replacement string must be of the same type as both the pattern and the search string.

[delicate wren]

@patent heron

@patent heron for game development there is arcade and ursina and many other non-pygame things if you ever do proceed with it

pygame isn't really a game engine, it's more of a simple rendering and event processing framework

@surreal bolt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_rotation_scheme#Tower_of_Hanoi

@surreal bolt wdym "install an environment"

that doesn't entirely parse as a sentence

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle this, right?

"old days" in question:

[glad turtle]

lol yeah, it's still in use

[delicate wren]

(different vendors)

[patent heron]

dont spam

thats how u got banned

[delicate wren]

participate in conversations naturally, do not spam

[patent heron]

bro

its not hard to get 50 messages

also "Active for at least three different ten-minute blocks"

[tawny void]

what is "blocks" means?

[delicate wren]

!u 1080961374731112538

[coarse hearth]

kiyas

User information

Created: <t:1677791675:R>
Profile: @tawny void
ID: 1080961374731112538

Member information

Joined: <t:1736302735:R>
Roles: None

Activity

Messages: 6
Activity blocks: 4

Infractions

Total: 2
Active: 1

[delicate wren]

activity blocks are 10-minute blocks when you send at least one message

you already passed that requirement

@fierce void 👋

[fierce void]

@delicate wren 👋

[delicate wren]

@glad turtle I'm not enough like Maroloccio to comment on how amusing this exchange is

[patent heron]

cmon man!

[glad turtle]

@surreal bolt ^^

[delicate wren]

@surreal bolt consider using Docker, as I said previously

if you want to isolate the deployment from the rest of your system, it's one of the best options

also

if the question is about setting an environment variable:
use .env file and load it

I think there is some level of confusion there

@surreal bolt at what exact step does the internet break?

I can get it troubleshooted and fixed but I'm getting ignored lmao

step 0: stop using ChatGPT

you won't get anywhere otherwise

you'll only going to get more confusion if you do AI

it's not the situation to resort to such actions

but it is sometimes the right approach

(as in OS reinstallation)

[delicate wren]

venv initialisation, activation, package installation or running the code?

@glad turtle not here

[glad turtle]

@delicate wren i guess i'm the real troll here. i will return to my cave.

[surreal bolt]

You're a big troll

Tell me to uninstall windows and install Linux instead to fix a problem

[glad turtle]

was suggesting windows reinstall

[delicate wren]

you're not, but you should just drop the suggestion instead of replying to them asking you about it

do not let the topic drag on

[glad turtle]

you're right

[surreal bolt]

Yep that's what I said

[delicate wren]

and you should've stopped further asking about the reinstall;
just "I won't reinstall the OS" is enough -- no explanation for why is required

[glad turtle]

it kinda relates to what i had said about having disposable environments. in windows people have hyper-v which should even allow GPU passthrough with ease for AI stuff..

[delicate wren]

https://docs.docker.com/desktop/setup/install/windows-install/
https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/integration/docker/
https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/guides/writing-pyproject-toml/
assuming you need to run the code with access to GPU:
https://docs.docker.com/compose/how-tos/gpu-support/

pyproject.toml is a modern replacement setup.py and requirements.txt

uv allows to manage it in an easier way

uv add both installs a package and adds it to pyproject.tom

i.e. if you avoid using uv pip, your installed package list will exactly reflect pyproject.toml and uv.lock

all installed packages and their dependencies, with version and hash, are included in uv.lock in addition to pyproject.toml

uv run, when used in a project without a venv present, automatically initialises the venv and installs all required packages

[surreal bolt]

Thank you

[glad turtle]

and if the packages had made changes to the OS in a non-self-contained manner?

[delicate wren]

then that's a bug in the package, you shouldn't be using it

if you want isolation, pair uv with docker

[glad turtle]

would there be a way to pinpoint or narrow which package would have done that?
to remind, he was suspecting a network driver corruption had taken place.

[delicate wren]

during installation or during execution?

[surreal bolt]

think the problem with numpy I think and I think it's also a problem with urllib3

[delicate wren]

(I never got the answer to that question)

[surreal bolt]

also cleaning the pic cache

Could have been a better solution to recommend

[glad turtle]

either

[surreal bolt]

py -m pip install -U pip setuptools wheel

Using this to help

[glad turtle]

the isolation is very suitable here. achievable by docker as you mention becuase all changes are limited to the confines of the container.
Hyper-V would have also worked, or a different VM that allows GPU passthrough.
for docker on Windows, is there a need to do GPU passthrough?

[surreal bolt]

That's a good suggestion

I might try it

[glad turtle]

sorry, I'm talking to Alisa, not you.

[surreal bolt]

No I'm just documenting my Experience Just like you document here experience when you reinstall windows

think of it like Stack overflow

[dull thistle]

Okok hello

Sorry i don’t have permission to talk

I’m trying to learn python but it’s been a crapshoot so far. I’ve been using chat GPT to help me code and explain how things work but idk it makes a mot of mistakes :/ i know it’s not the best tool but a start is a start

[glad turtle]

maybe you like one of these books #pedagogy message

[dull thistle]

I’m working on a chatbot called Latrell but it’s been hard. I find one fix then 20 problems pop up

it’s pronounced Lah - trell

:/ it’s a common name here in america

Fak hold on lemme open my computer

Im a complete noob man

Also thanks for helping me

It’d be easier if i showed you

I’m from the US 😭

YES!

[surreal bolt]

Do you speak English

Call me

[dull thistle]

Okok

[misty sinew]

@jade terrace Hey how you doing, It is Jigar Gupta.
Did you bought the book and wrote some fantasy in it?

[jade terrace]

hey, naughty naughty. Yeah I got the books and I've strated brainstorming stuffs

[silk hill]

@glad turtle sup

[glad turtle]

well, i failed my interview so now I'm thinking about next steps.
what's up with you?

[silk hill]

tiring day at work, just gonna relax for a bit

maybe learn something

[glad turtle]

it's great that you can find work, good luck

[silk hill]

dont worry ur gonna get one soon too brooo

hoping the best for u

[misty sinew]

.

<>

[delicate wren]

dynamodb's pricing incentivises the use of color over colour

american technology

this far into reading the developer guide currently

wtf is this spacing

[edgy chasm]

appears to be a mix of 4,8 and 12 space tabs... weird

[untold fern]

wym by pricing?

[untold fern]

what language is this? or is this just markup?

[delicate wren]

https://aws.amazon.com/dynamodb/pricing/on-demand/
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/amazondynamodb/latest/developerguide/read-write-operations.html
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/amazondynamodb/latest/developerguide/CapacityUnitCalculations.html

[delicate wren]

JSON

[untold fern]

yaaaa.... as someone studying data, since im unable to learn or gain free access to some non-opensource software, im sorta discouraged from learning them

My school can get a license for a lot of software - but the capabilities are either pretty limited, you have to be enrolled in a certain class, and there is still a lot of software not available

[delicate wren]

self-fulfilling prophecy coughing

@main garden we are in VC1 not VC0 therefore this channel

[sly pond]

https://tenor.com/la04QkZOfiu.gif

https://tenor.com/1q8a.gif

[delicate wren]

easy to remember number

oi

ignore that

16 * 111

that

!e

print(16 * 111)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

1776

[delicate wren]

I somewhat swapped digits

!d numpy.fft

[coarse hearth]

numpy.fft

Discrete Fourier Transform

The SciPy module scipy.fft is a more comprehensive superset of numpy.fft, which includes only a basic set of routines...

[delicate wren]

... meanwhile two people even older

I sometimes forget that Instagram exists

I'm too asleep to deal with this

💥

[west mantle]

no please

hi

[west mantle]

gn guys

[misty sinew]

@fluid canopy How are you doing?

It's okay!

@fluid canopy Being rejected ain't bad!

Yes

@fluid canopy How about statring own business?

[mild sluice]

Hi guys

[misty sinew]

Think about it, you earn in Euros.
You can literally start the small business in developing country

Or much better than company

I got better idea

Why don't you invest in commerical real state in developing country

You would have direct cash flow

It is much better than having business

as Risk almost none

Yeah but commercial real state gives you direct cash flow

You can take money in advance

So if business fail

you can kick them after contract expire

In country like India you can get commercial real state for 5 to 10K euro in market place and cash flow is 1K

@fluid canopy No I don't have microphone

Exactly

Think about it developing country will emerg more and more

so your real statet value will increase as well

and you will have cash flow at the same time

as commercial real state is good way to invest and have cash flow

It won't be possible to do so in Norway as it has really expensive property

I'm 20

I'm graduated

I guess you know me

[misty sinew]

This is only thing that kept me alive in hard time

If I never had this I won't be talking to you in my hard time

As I won't be able to afford basic thing like water, electricity and wifi

Okay no problem

@fluid canopy I feel sorry for him

I hope he can get a better life

But develop country has some benefit for unemployed folks seeking job

In India, individual is at mercy of life

I got offer from nvidia

But I'm not sure, it is real or not

No just mail

never applied to it

@fluid canopy Let me share it

Check your DM

Yes

Check again

Nah

I know you

I won't be sharing this things to them

They are asking me to move to taiwan

Yes

They asked me to share my resume

and the job position is in taiwan

Yes they are verified

@fluid canopy Let's not talk about it!
How about you?
Do you have any plans for future?

I think it is just automated mail from AI

So It has no value to me!

@fluid canopy I hope you can recover!
If I can help you, I would help you!
But I'm helpless my self

Tbh In this hard time I've learned it was all ego which was in hurt

As long as I have basic ingredients in my life, I can be self content

Yeah it's okay!

But sonner or later you have to learn to be happy in present moment!

@fluid canopy I think your parents had much more problem than you?

And worst part about a desi in norway is that you can not get management level role like native whites

it is way way more difficult for person of color to be in management

Management pays well and is much better in terms of work life balance

Manager managing software dev is obviously earning way more than software dev!

At the present moment I'm learning web development

And I hope I can earn passive income

from past few weeks didn't had single client

on fiverr

Okay no problem

Bye

[stuck bluff]

Yes? What's up?

@wide cloak

@slate garnet @little zephyr 👋

@fair heart From being able to sell you the water.

Terminator?

https://tenor.com/view/bird-drinking-alcohol-thirsty-gif-27077648

An hour?

"Get on with it!"

Probably.

I haven't been to a lot of comedy shows, but yes, the focus was on the comedian.

Bo Burnham's Outside was a real maturing of his artistry.

Welcome to the Internet. Chef's kiss.

But also, The Chicken.

White Woman's Instagram.

Facetiming With My Mum.

Fuck. Inside. Not Outside.

Oh, Goodbye...masterful

I get goosebumps when it cuts back to "a little bit of everything all of the time"

[proper ridge]

It's not wrong though. It's about building gratitude for the small stuff.

"You will sleep at 7 PM sharp, or no games tomorrow."
It was necessary parenting. "Eat this or you'll be weak." True, you need to do alot of stuff you don't want that are good for you.

[stuck bluff]

A teacher told me of the nuns that would force him to drink milk that had gone off in the sun and hit him on the knuckles with a ruler if he disobeyed.

National milk in schools program or something.

[little zephyr]

Hello

[stuck bluff]

Osyra: You can groom your cat if you lick the brush.
Bisk: Yes! I've done it!

Brush, cat, whatever.

[proper ridge]

Cartesian

[stuck bluff]

I've got a big bag of crabs here... 🎵

I'm gonna put them in my mouth, oh yes.

Yes.

I've got Morrowind.

Tamriel Rebuilt is still being made.

Maaaaaageyyy!!!

Yeeeee!

[marsh lodge]

Good to see you Opal!! :)

[stuck bluff]

Unfortunately, I am the High King of Skyrim.

Go for the eyes, Boo! Go for the eyes! Rargh!

https://tenor.com/view/disapproving-look-disapprove-no-nope-not-gif-4432360

@glad turtle

Bisk, that's sneeeeakky...

"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I poop on company time."

Not in Lua.

Lua is 1 indexed.

Python is 0 indexed.

[misty sinew]

👋

[stuck bluff]

Biker dude.

[proper ridge]

@thin lintel "You are a senior developer. Make a full stack website with ..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2C2CNmK7dQ&t=1s

[stuck bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-afternoon-good-evening-good-night-hello-gif-22572201

Communion. @misty sinew

[thin lintel]

Sorry, phone rang and discord kept me as a hostage

[brazen nimbus]

thanks for sharing

ITT

WIll you go to ITT

[stuck bluff]

Mal bulge but o instead of u

I believe.

Sexy singles are looking for Python programmers in your area.

Oh sigh rah

[bright plinth]

yo

[stuck bluff]

@woven thorn 👋

Osyra is a guy.

@misty sinew

Osyra is a regular here.

[umbral rose]

!rule 6 9

[coarse hearth]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[umbral rose]

You cannot ask for work here. please delete this and any other place you've posted it.

[marsh lodge]

@covert fractal #voice-verification

[fair heron]

!voice @covert fractal

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[stuck bluff]

#voice-chat-text-1

[fair heron]

@covert fractal I am here ❤️

[covert fractal]

THANKS

yaha

I am here too

thanks guys

ICE CREAM

bing qi lin

[covert fractal]

我也喜欢冰淇淋

芒果还是草莓

what is 500.... a cone?

[fair heron]

"I also like ice cream."

[fair heron]

"Mango or strawberry?"