voice-chat-text-1

[mild flume]

Get to do a postmortem regarding the compromised account from yesterday. Should be an interesting talk

HA

@stuck bluff Yes. Yes it would

Cantrip

[wintry sinew]

yeah all my homies hate discord mods

[hearty heath]

Did someone there get phished?

[mild flume]

Yeeeeeep

She's beating herself up pretty hard about it

She's normally really good about it

I doubt she'll make the same mistake again

We had damage control done quick enough that it wasn't a big issue

They didn't get access to anything other than her email password, which they couldn't use without the MFA

[wintry sinew]

I'm a random person from the internet so I doubt it'll change much for her, but I can say as someone who explicitly works in anti-phishing, it can happen to anyone, it isn't a reflection on you if it happens once, shit happens, life circumstances make it more likely sometimes

[mild flume]

Buuuuuuuuut.... she was typing into a fake Microsoft OAuth. Thing about it was, the URL didn't change, so it wasn't a proper OAuth. And the top-level domain of the url? .ru

And yeah, we're still doing the fake phishing for training

There were specific circumstances for her that made this harder to catch at first

[faint dock]

https://tenor.com/view/sailor-neptune-gif-21368922

[mild flume]

It came directly from a client who had been compromised. And she was also expecting a different kind of email from them because they're changing their bookkeeping software

So I can't be too mad, but it does mean I need to give additional training

[clever sage]

hey i wanna get hired as a software devoloper

[mild flume]

@true valley Hai and bye. Gotta go to a meeting

[oak pewter]

Homomorphic encryption

[clever sage]

i am pretty serious

give me job

🤓

[oak pewter]

Please dm me.

[clever sage]

i msg u

bro what are typing

☠️

[oak pewter]

Does anyone knows any resources for mathematics for physics of the laws of nature and the Universe at large?

[oak pewter]

Something to explain the the physics, and somethings to be used for coding.

[hearty heath]

https://cstack.github.io/db_tutorial/

[oak pewter]

Kql

Database systems architecture

Databases engine

[shut storm]

https://i0.wp.com/user-images.githubusercontent.com/57737777/87615215-0ac9a480-c6c7-11ea-9c3b-5d32762c4c58.JPG?resize=4032%2C3024&ssl=1

https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/github-archive-program-the-journey-of-the-worlds-open-source-code-to-the-arctic/

[hoary citrus]

Tabs also have four spaces. no?

[timber zenith]

tabs are equivalent in size to 4 spaces, but the tab character is inherently different from 4 spaces

[hoary citrus]

Oh Thanks!

[delicate wren]

8

(depends)

[mild flume]

Always depends

[timber zenith]

damn you exceptions

[hoary citrus]

I meant 1 tab

[delicate wren]

"use errors as values instead: error (tab) should have a value of four spaces"

[delicate wren]

many systems have tab shown as 8 spaces by default

[mild flume]

But moving a file from one to another doesn't guarantee that the tabs will be the same size

Tab characters are all lies

[hoary citrus]

oh

[delicate wren]

or if you're in yaml/js land

[hoary citrus]

Okay.

[delicate wren]

"which of 5 and 7 is more cursed?"

[hoary citrus]

Thanks!

[delicate wren]

I've seen 3-space indentation before, so that seems at least remotely sane

[timber zenith]

just because you've seen it before doesn't mean it's remotely sane

three????

[delicate wren]

at least not 5 or 7

[mild flume]

This is like the how many "chug-a"s before the "choo choo" debate

[delicate wren]

twenty three and a half

[thin lintel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laestadianism

[delicate wren]

only as initial indentation, iirc

so, like, for a format without nesting

thanks, internet

seems like for markdown and rest there's a >=3 spaces requirement for certain things

4 being the expected number and 3 being allowed because, in the spirit of HTML, there are no syntax errors

[stuck bluff]

Call me The Tingler.

[mild flume]

Back in a bit

[hearty heath]

Did anyone here watch Weebl and Bob? 😄

[stuck bluff]

'Lo.

[hearty heath]

lo bob

[stuck bluff]

@misty sinew 👋

[misty sinew]

👋

[misty sinew]

How r u?

[stuck bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-9112913

[austere knot]

https://c.r74n.com/converter/gen-alpha

[stuck bluff]

DeepAI.

Translate the following into a generation alpha brainrot dialect: Welcome to Python Discord, the foremost Python programming community on Discord.```

Yo, what’s poppin’ fam?! Welcome to the PYTHON DISCORD fam, the ultimate Python squad in the Discord universe! Let’s get coding, fam! 🚀🐍💻```

[tame leaf]

My school is startmaxxing at 8

[austere knot]

I finna rotsmaxx in Ohio educational institution at 8

[tame leaf]

i'm gonna move my gyatt to the schoolpilled institutionmaxxing

[mild flume]

https://tenor.com/bJ9wB.gif

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10005673

[austere knot]

okay that's good

[timber zenith]

!stream 886227712056885309

[coarse hearth]

✅ @velvet musk can now stream until <t:1728920772:f>.

[timber zenith]

py -0

py -3.9 pip -m install -r requirements.txt

py -3.7 pip -m install -r requirements.txt

py -3.7 -m pip install -r requirements.txt

[velvet musk]

python engine-TTSVoiceWizard.py

[timber zenith]

py -3.7 engine-TTSVoiceWizard.py

[tame leaf]

Ґґ Гг

[raven orbit]

ѓ

ќ

бајрактар

[turbid silo]

@stuck bluff hey hi

wasup

long time

I have a question

is this the right time to ask @stuck bluff

or are you tired?

[stuck bluff]

It's late for me, yes.

[turbid silo]

oh it's ok good talk

see you

[spiral ingot]

hello

[terse sierra]

Is that cast iron pan ????? @raven orbit

pot...

linguistics .. mmm

[misty sinew]

Hey boys and girls

@tame leafSup

@raven orbitYo

@thin lintel I was gonna

[terse sierra]

Mili from Finni , with the the kittys @thin lintel

[misty sinew]

Ah yes Clari

[raven orbit]

Charmander, you're a nasty boy, nasty boy, nasty boy
Charmander, you're a nasty boy
Why you gotta pick on, pick on, pick on, pick on, pick on
Pick on Pikachu?
When you turn into a Charizard
What we gonna do?

[raven orbit]

yes

[terse sierra]

does it have a lid ? @raven orbit

[misty sinew]

🙄

[raven orbit]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f05tATQICwA

[raven orbit]

yes

[austere knot]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-slideshow-bouba-bouba-slideshow-gif-22444546

[terse sierra]

saw a way to use a pot like that to bake bread in the woods @raven orbit

[raven orbit]

nice

[raven orbit]

at 1:52

[terse sierra]

yes that vid , pot flipped over , on fire to bake @raven orbit

notch in tree to hold cast iron fry pan good also

[raven orbit]

that's a good idea

how do you get the tree to not catch fire though?

[terse sierra]

at 6:52 mark , used once , in a forest of trees , plenty more to use , Think its his backyard in Aberbajon ( spelling ) @raven orbit

9:35 Baking

I heard a munchkin

[misty sinew]

@proper ridgeYo

Do you have any more resources for learning python?

[raven orbit]

do you have a link to the video?

[terse sierra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9RqTAPHOys

[raven orbit]

thx, I'll take a look later tonight

[terse sierra]

theres 3 or 4 of them , related somehow , and they do rustic cooking , even using cast iron woks , doing stir frys - they grow rosemary , oranges all sorts of stuff in back yard @raven orbit

[stuck bluff]

@fresh bramble 👋

[fresh bramble]

hey

new to python

anyways

[misty sinew]

voice verification on this discord is a bit of a pain for new people lol

[fresh bramble]

im trying to use an github auto typer

for discord

can soemone show me how to download

it

and use it

yes im using powershell

idk how to use powershell with python

pplease

plase

plase

aspelasease

no

its just my acc

[misty sinew]

@misty sinew are you busy at all

@misty sinew are you familiar with this python module called curses?

nope sorry

[misty sinew]

no prob

@misty sinew Do you have a strategy on what to do when facing a problem with a python module in general?

It's really weird. The script just stops for no reason with no errors

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

@misty sinew Oh yeah I'll use that ty. I did post about the problem twice in the help forums but it got locked both times with no responses, even though I tried to format everything correctly. Would you be alright if I just post the problem with the video here?

yea i guess but itd probably be easier for me to run the code myself

I will paste it all

dw

from time import sleep
from byuimage import Image
try:
    image = Image('abs1.png')
except:
    image = Image('testing//abs1.png')

def main(stdscr):
    palette = ['██', '▓▓', '▒▒', '░░', '  ']
    cells = []

    for i in range(image.height // 49): # the height of each cell image is 49 pixels, so the reel height is divided by 49 to separate the cells properly
        cell = ''
        for y in range(49):
            for x in range(image.width):
                gray_val = image.get_pixel(x, y).color[0]
                if gray_val == 255:
                    cell += palette[0]
                elif gray_val == 0:
                    cell += palette[4]
                elif gray_val == 64:
                    cell += palette[3]
                elif gray_val == 128:
                    cell += palette[2]
                elif gray_val == 192:
                    cell += palette[1]
            cell += '\n'
        cells.append(cell)

    for cell in cells:
        stdscr.addstr(0, 0, cell)
        stdscr.refresh()
        sleep(2)


wrapper(main)```

The problem is that the program simply stops after the first printed animation cell (the full reel is attached as "abs1.png"). Also keep in mind in order for the code to run properly, the terminal must be close to or at fullscreen, otherwise Curses will return an error. @misty sinew

Have any questions about byuimage? It's just a modification of the Pillow module that simplifies some tasks, like getting the colors of each pixel.

yes

pip install windows-curses

yeah

you got it

I cannot hear very well over discord, so if you have anything to ask, please put it here :)

Its a whole screen yeah

it's supposed to animate every cell

if you look at the reel image, there's about 22 of them

at a rate of one frame per 2 seconds (going slow to make sure the program works)

so

Idk, that's the issue I'm asking about

so are you trying to slice the image into these individual frames and animate them in sequence?

[misty sinew]

Yeah

Awesome!

[main steeple]

hi, do you have an example of this? and does that basically mean the board shifts after each move, adjusts the minecount, what happens?

[hearty heath]

This is a literal implementation of what I said, although it's not very fun 😄 https://www.glaielgames.com/adversarialminesweeper/
I really should have said it guarantees you'll hit a mine if you click a square whose value is not deducible, except for on the first turn.

[main steeple]

lovely

are they trying to imply i have to go for a corner?

apparently so 😭 thats a bit silly

what??

[hearty heath]

I guess a way you could implement it is to implement a solver, and at each step solve the game (there might be multiple solutions given partial information). If there are both: a solution where the square the user clicked has a mine, and a solution where that square doesn't have a mine, then choose the solution that does have a mine.

[main steeple]

i mean i am currently stuck on trying to implement a solver

i am torn between using matrices or a backtracking approach

thing is i dont really know how id implement a backtracking algorithm

[hearty heath]

Yeah it's definitely a tricky problem!

[main steeple]

but if i use a simple + csps, it can be way more efficient than using matrices

[hearty heath]

A generic (not very fast) constraint satisfaction problem solver looks something like this: ```py
@dataclass
class State[Var, Val]:
possible_values_of: dict[Var, set[Val]]
unsolved_variables: set[Var]

def solutions(state):
state = deepcopy(state)
make_deductions(state)
if solved(state):
yield state
return
if unsolvable(state):
return
variable = state.unsolved_variables.pop()
for value in state.possible_values_of[variable]:
state.possible_values_of[variable] = {value}
yield from solutions(state)

def solved(state):
return (
not state.unsolved_variables
and all(
len(possible_values) == 1
for variable, possible_values in state.possible_values_of.items()
)
)

def unsolvable(state):
return any(
len(possible_values) == 0
for variable, possible_values in state.possible_values_of.items()
)

def make_deductions(state):
... # problem-specific

It might be cool to try implementing a minesweeper solver using the Z3 theorem prover, although I'm nto sure how practical that would be: https://github.com/Z3Prover/z3

[main steeple]

yeah speed is quite a big factor for me haha, what is deepcopy and the for value in state.possible mean?

[hearty heath]

from copy import deepcopy
``` Just to make sure the function isn't mutating its input.

deepcopy is for when you want to make a copy of mutable nested data structure.

So like, if you have a list of lists, the list gets copied and so do the sublists.

[main steeple]

oh ok thats interesting

i mean do you think matrices or csps would be faster?

i am planning a levelled approach basically
so you first have simple "e.g. x1 = 1" ok thats a mine
then u have csps / matrices

[hearty heath]

A well-optimised CPS solver will definitely be fast. What would be the matrix approach?

[main steeple]

are you familiar with how minesweeper works

this is how i tried explaining it

and then by putting it in RREF, you can get some detail and then backtrackk

but i am so confused how the whole process works

[hearty heath]

Oh right, so like set up a system of equations and solve it.

[main steeple]

yeah

and idk how to solve it using csps

[hearty heath]

You could do that using Z3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9eXcmWWEyA

[tame leaf]

@stuck bluff 👋

wrong chat

[stuck bluff]

bbiab

[delicate wren]

omg

another minesweeper

[delicate wren]

you should

in a normal game

[delicate wren]

I'm somewhat interested in testing different bots in a time-sensitive environment (1v1 game)
so, if yours is open-source, I can add it to the pool

[mild flume]

Just me. What're you working on?

Yo MeTer

[rotund bough]

test cases for my controller function 😦

[mild flume]

Having fun?

[hoary citrus]

Hey!

[rotund bough]

having headaches

[mild flume]

Due to the code or having an actual headache

Yo ACE

[rotund bough]

it's the code

test failed

[mild flume]

Was about to ask what language but then I saw the file extension. Doesn't seem super fun

@last crest Yes I can

I prefer books

[last crest]

Book is called introducing HTML 5

and other one is called

learn php,sql and javascript

ik very creative names

[mild flume]

What's the publisher? Like O'Reilly or No Startch Press or the like?

I hadn't heard of those two specifically

[last crest]

wait a sec

author is Robin Nixon

[mild flume]

I just really prefer sites or books so that I can go at my own pace. I don't really like courses and videos because they either go too fast, too slow, or they don't have detailed enough info

[last crest]

for js and sql one

[mild flume]

Gotcha

[last crest]

same it doesnt hold my attention

[mild flume]

Ah it is an O'Reilly text. They usually put out good stuff. But I'd kind of prefer texts that focus on one subject or language at a time

When it's scatter shot like that one it can kind of lose focus and only give you a smattering of knowledge

[summer kiln]

Hi

Neat

[mild flume]

Back in a sec. The IT needs are strong today

[main steeple]

i play no guess mode

so i can go anywhere

tho i do understand yeah in a normal game, corners are often best to start with

[summer kiln]

What up how’s the coding going

Because don’t send meny text

What is good for skeletons and free and for making character pixelated. On a raspberry pi 5 . No blender no asprite no smash studio

[terse sierra]

hard to find good books , especially for MATH

Math + programming = Graphics

[summer kiln]

Yeah sometimes I find programming books in those take a book leave a book boxes people make

[mild flume]

So much IT

So... SO much

[rotund bough]

free the process handles ❌
turn it back off and on again ✅

[delicate wren]

minesweeper.online or some other place?

[main steeple]

minesweeper classic retro
and there

[delicate wren]

I'm still actively losing the same high difficulty mode

meditative experience

I no longer play NG as much as in the beginning

still not good enough

(Evil NG)

[delicate wren]

hmm

yes, yes, a visual appeal of improvement

[summer kiln]

😓

[polar radish]

since the chip is so big, that's kinda an easy recovery right? just gotta order a replacement and heat gun it off

[summer kiln]

😔

[hoary citrus]

@thin lintel Hey! How are you doing?

Great! Can you send some pics of kitten? If you want.

[hoary citrus]

@polar radish Yes, I can. Hi!

Making a note taking app.

Sorry! Can you say that again

For learning.

Making from scratch.

Desktop app

Hmm.

[thin lintel]

What’s the difference between Universities and Universities of Applied Sciences in Finland?
The main difference is that Universities of Applied Sciences focus on providing education and conducting research that ties into professional working life. The key differences are:

Study programmes at UAS’s often include practical training or work placements.
UAS’s also focus on regional development. Many campuses are located in smaller cities or regions outside of metropolitan hubs.
Admission requirements are usually a bit less demanding, at least for undergraduate degree programmes. Admission to Master’s programmes at a UAS commonly requires at least three years of relevant work experience.

[hoary citrus]

@mild flume Hi, how are you doing?

[mild flume]

I'm okay. Yourself?

[hoary citrus]

All good.

[gentle estuary]

omgggg

[mild flume]

How

HOW

[gentle estuary]

hey hi

[mild flume]

The fact that it has happened again is concerning, and it's advisable that we hand it off to our MSP for them to look at it. It's probable that they'd have to send it off to HP for work on it since it's still under warranty. I do not know how long it would take for them to figure out and fix the problem.

The only available spares I have are the travel laptops. They have Windows 11 Pro on them and they're on the domain. However, we'd still need to add the software we'd need on the machine along with any files or links you'd need from your current machine.

[summer kiln]

How lol yes how is good question by why lol , why would someone do this!!! I found these lol it was free totally worth it haha 😆

[mild flume]

I'd be surprised if the mobo wasn't fragged

[mild flume]

Yeesh

[summer kiln]

This one isn’t as damaged as the other two

[mild flume]

The capacitors near the power connector in the top left hand look a little wonky. Rest of it seems fine

Dusty, but fine

[summer kiln]

Yeah they are great I wanna get em all repaired

[mild flume]

@faint dock Sup?

[faint dock]

I just pop in to say hi

[mild flume]

Ah fair enough. Hello!

[summer kiln]

I think they are all 1990 boards maybe one is from 2000

[polar radish]

these are really easy repairs if you have the schematics and the right tools

at least it all looks like large components

[mild flume]

https://youtu.be/4zMmbgOLHRg?si=cok_N676X_hGpagy

@stuck bluff In here, nerd

[stuck bluff]

Crap.

@proper ridge

[mild flume]

@misty sinew Yo

[misty sinew]

Oh crap here

[mild flume]

I do it all the time

[misty sinew]

Hi

[summer kiln]

Hi

[faint dock]

ello

[summer kiln]

I purchased a used drawing tablet but the pen is missing a little metal pin is there a way to trick the pad into using pen without pin anyone know

[stuck bluff]

I don't know the answer, so we might have to, you know, put a pin in the conversation for now.

However I sincerely wish you every success in the matter.

[sterile phoenix]

sup

hi

i like how hemlock check 1st, before just going !voice

hehe

and you did too!

what r u up2?

what time do u usually wake up/

[misty sinew]

@tame leafYo

[thin lintel]

tabac

[gentle estuary]

yooooo

[summer kiln]

What

[delicate wren]

minesweepering rn

https://minesweeper.online/game/3856064712

single complete game is expected to be around 40 minutes I think

100/100/1000 is ~15 minutes

that one has low mine density
https://minesweeper.online/game/3856030822

suprising given all the waste on flags in the end

[proper ridge]

Very impressive.

[delicate wren]

!e

print(821.338 / 60)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

13.688966666666666

[delicate wren]

an attempt
Enterprise™️

[unborn nova]

        bool back_wheel_collision = absolute_position_wheel_back.Y >= terrain_gen_function(absolute_position_wheel_back.X + car_position.X);
        bool front_wheel_collision = absolute_position_wheel_front.Y >= terrain_gen_function(absolute_position_wheel_front.X + car_position.X);

[delicate wren]

gaming

[delicate wren]

clearing the thing in spiral works

also the field starts to feel somewhat small

[proper ridge]

I feel sth like a scale would work well for this.

[gentle estuary]

[delicate wren]

we're assuming wheels aren't bouncy, right?

windows presentation foundation?

or whatever it's called

[proper ridge]

https://github.com/dankelley2/sharpPhysics

[delicate wren]

https://github.com/codingben/box2d-netstandard

codebullet used to use box2d

[delicate wren]

there are no graphics here afaik

you use it just for maths

very weird solution that I think of trying to implement:

1. simulate the car as if no ground exists (this is just base case for `4)')
2. add the ground back in
3. if a wheel intersects with ground, assume it's touching the ground (this is just base case for `5)')
4. re-simulate with wheel accelerating the car (and ground accelerating the wheels)
5. if more wheels intersect with the ground than expected, add it to `3)' and redo `4)'
6. for wheels assumed to be touching the ground, rearrange the car so it's the case

don't overuse branches, name temporary branches for specific features;
this will slightly mitigate the situation

• never rebase main, only rebase extra branches and forks

... and the sound died again

[delicate wren]

as soon as the feature is merged, delete it

[delicate wren]

(because of the VPN I'm using)

now works again

https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/configuring-branches-and-merges-in-your-repository/managing-protected-branches/about-protected-branches

what a giant link

[unborn nova]

can't no github pro i could because edu but yeah

[delicate wren]

private repo?

[unborn nova]

y

[delicate wren]

GitLab might have branch protection for free private repos

you can have multiple email addresses in GitHub

Codeberg has that too, but they're somewhat opposed to private repos a concept

[jovial cradle]

You a big GitLab user Alisa? We're moving to it from GH

[delicate wren]

I use Forgejo

both have some feature advantages and disadvantages compared to GitHub

[jovial cradle]

Damn hipsters (joking)

We're also moving to GL CI in the saame breath, that should be fun

[delicate wren]

Forgejo has the most extensive package manager support out of the three

https://forgejo.org/docs/latest/user/packages/

so no need to have a separate thing like artifactory

• it supports GitHub Actions but self-hosted

[jovial cradle]

Our Artifactory setup is the bane of my existence

I wrote a custom tool to handle setting up user's auth for them because it was such a mess

We use GCP Artifact Registry but will most likely be using GitLab AR also once we migrate

[delicate wren]

for detailed auth, Forgejo probably isn't the way

it's as flat and primitive as possible

defined at organisation level

no fine-grained permissions yet

[jovial cradle]

Yeah our CI pipelines can be fairly complex, lots of C++ software being passed around in fairly janky ways

Flat and primitive can be very beneficial I'd imagine

Our GCP org owners are of the mind that auth/access/permissions should be as minimal as possible by default. Which is a sound concept, but means that I spent 2 days waiting for various perms/roles to be merged for my account this week 😅

[delicate wren]

example of what I currently have:

1. one repo, upon tagging, gets shoved as a subtree of another repo, and creates a tag
2. that other repo, upon tagging, builds a release
3. release is published in one host
4. then, through a VPN and a self-written auth-rewriting proxy, publishes to another host

auth-rewriting proxy is there to limit what accounts can go through it

blocks all cookies and requires the password is signed by it

[fair heron]

!paste

[coarse hearth]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[delicate wren]

!pypi pyside6

[coarse hearth]

PySide6 v6.8.0.1

Python bindings for the Qt cross-platform application and UI framework

Released on <t:1728990313:D>.

[fair heron]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ZPTQ

[delicate wren]

official Qt bindings

you can do backend in Qt if you're brave enough

[unborn nova]

thx for the advice

[fair heron]

category headers are behind the buttons

[jovial cradle]

Never messed around with subtrees (subrepos?), always heard they were somewhat magicy but maybe I've heard wrong

[delicate wren]

submodules are pain

subtrees are different

submodules die when the upstream dies

[jovial cradle]

Ah yeah that's what I was thinking of

[delicate wren]

with subtrees, you bring everything in

[jovial cradle]

Submodules equivalent to symlinks, subtree equivalent to a smart copy ?

smarter*

[delicate wren]

subtrees bring the whole history over and keep track of what is where when merging new changes
(compared to just copying)

[delicate wren]

yes

@proper ridge I recently saw an ad for a somewhat interesting AI tool;
it's working like an overly initiative code reviewer (nitpicking everything it can)

[proper ridge]

That seems like a nice tactic tbh. Let it nitpick, and hope at least a few of them are valid.

[delicate wren]

basically just for catching random dumb stuff that was missed

[proper ridge]

KRRT has been working on qickit with codeflash. It's nice.

[jovial cradle]

I've had so many issues with GPT completely making up an API call, config value etc. when querying it recently

[faint dock]

https://tenor.com/view/good-vibes-only-good-vibes-stay-positive-positive-vibes-positivity-gif-208834640158088906

[proper ridge]

Hallucinations are normal for generative models.

[jovial cradle]

Yep, I've just noticed a steep rise in my own recent experience - potentially because of the different tools I'm working with nowddays maybe

[fair heron]

@umbral rose

[delicate wren]

all my attempts to generate anything of use with GPT have so far been in vain

4o seems to finally be capable of writing Rust

[proper ridge]

That's nice to hear.

[delicate wren]

the first model I saw understand associated types to be related with function outputs

[jovial cradle]

4o ?

[delicate wren]

gpt 4o

or whatever it's called

[jovial cradle]

gotcha

[proper ridge]

Yeah, the newest one.

[faint dock]

my life goal is to be a helper in this discord & to use the phrase "Nobody outpizzas the hut" in daily conversations

[jovial cradle]

what's the gold standard currently for LLM for dev?

[proper ridge]

Nice.

[proper ridge]

I don't know tbh. I feel the way they're used is inflated. I think eventually they'd be more useful for review and testing.

Check out codeflash. It reads your code, and generates property-based testing with fuzzing. It's not there yet, but quite an interesting way to utilize generative models for devops.

[jovial cradle]

I've found them useful as first wave search engines for tools I'm not comfortable with yet or tools with shoddy docs

[proper ridge]

I for instance use copilot mostly to save me time typing repetitive stuff.

But it still needs something to learn from, and will usually make mistakes.

[jovial cradle]

I found it useful as a terminology cheatsheet of sorts. Every service uses diffferent words for the same shit so

[delicate wren]

@quasi widget is this one still a valid answer to that question? ((has it ever been?))
https://deepseekcoder.github.io/

[proper ridge]

My prediction is:

• Search engine
• Test generation for devops
• Review for code optimization
• Business writing
• Automated content creation

[delicate wren]

if I ever do need something from AI, I'm content with something like phind.com in the state it was in 2023

[fair heron]

that one has a huge context

[delicate wren]

the thing can search and summarise okay-ish-ly, so seems fine for many things

[proper ridge]

Yeah, I used to use phind all the time until it got region banned in my region.

[delicate wren]

free or paid?

or both were banned?

it's not banned in Russia somehow

4o mini is very fast and considerably capable and free for now

the best thing: asking it to explain something using emoji only

[proper ridge]

I'll try it out. Thanks for lmk.

[delicate wren]

(different FSes)

now I need to see if it can reconstruct the original code in any way at all
https://gist.github.com/afeistel/b1aae3191af26fad9d709cadd0fc4550

why is it writing Python

okay, the emoji compression-decompression experiment failed

[mint abyss]

@umbral rose can i get stream perms? i wana stream my coding?

[stuck bluff]

Yords.

[delicate wren]

I made something terrifying

it's still generating

@umbral rose @proper ridge
https://gist.github.com/afeistel/6fff994e35817c97a02391a17e97ad06

what a surreal sight

why are there unicorns

this sure looks like APL

🔗 { ⬅️, ➡️: 🔋🍏 }

????

given I don't remember the code myself, this is very crypting

🗂️ Shared<📦> {
    💔: HashMap<🗝️, Waker>,
    💔💔: HashMap<🗝️, Waker>,
    📦: Vec<📦>,
    🔄: usize,
}

whale

(🐳, 💻)

lmao

[umbral rose]

!paste

[coarse hearth]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[delicate wren]

I asked it to rewrite it again and it turned 💔💔 into 🥀 for some reason

[umbral rose]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/NUSA @fair heron

[delicate wren]

this is the type of cursed I'm aiming for

📦 State<📦> {
    #[default]
    🌊,
    📥(📦),
    🚀,
}

if only State and default weren't there

[mint abyss]

such a beautiful code to see

[fair heron]

pyside6

[jovial cradle]

what word would you use to describe a metadata file that describes a "run"? in this case a k8s workflow of which the metadata would include the run command, result summary, metrics etc. ?

manifest isn't right imo

[delicate wren]

maybe if it's a workflow then just call it a workflow[ file]

trying to remember if there's a more generic word

there's "script"/"scenario" as a description of "what to do"

@thin lintel "they aren't asking but he's willing to send anyway"

[jovial cradle]

I think workflow_metadata.json will work for now

[mint abyss]

pls tell?

[delicate wren]

brb

back

[proper ridge]

Welcome back.

[delicate wren]

a what

🌍 std::{
    🔒::🍀,
    🌀::🌀,
    🎈::🔑,
    🔐::🌟,
    📜::{🍀, 🍀, 🌈},
};

🌍 🚀 {
    🔑::🔑,
    🍀::🌈,
    🌀::{🍀, 🍀, 🍀},
    🚀, 🍀, 🌈,
};

🍀 🌀<🦋> {
    🔑: 🍀<🦋>,
    🔑: 🍀<🦋>,
    🌻: 🍀<🦋>,
    🌊: usize,
}

🍀<
        🌼,
        🦋: 🍀,
        🔑,
        🦋: 🍀 + 🌈<🦋>,
        🍀: 🍀<🔑>,
    > 🌀<🦋, 🦋, 🍀> {
    🍀 🍄(self: 🌀<&mut Self>, 🌈: &mut 🌈<'_>) -> 🍄<Result<(), 🔑>> {
        let this = self.🌀();
        let mut 🍦 = this.🍀;
        loop {
            if *this.🍦 {
                break 🍦.🍄(🌈);
            }
            🍀!(🍦.as_mut().🍄(🌈))?;
            *this.🍦 = true;
        }
    }
}

so cursed

[fair heron]

https://www.emojicode.org

[delicate wren]

I can't get it to generate this dense again

another attempt
https://gist.github.com/afeistel/8111f8b84de7ecfd0b68c23c15ea87dc

not as good

[stuck bluff]

Heya

[fair heron]

🏁 🍇
  🍺 🔢 ➡️ 🔢 🍇🔢 n🍉 🍇
    ↪️ n ⚖️ 0 🍇
      🍎 1
    🍉
    ↩️ n ✖️ 🍺 🔢 🍇n ➖ 1🍉
  🍉

  🔢 5 ➡️ 🔢 🍇5🍉 ➡️ result
  📝 🔤Factorial of 5 is: 🔣result🔤
🍉

[delicate wren]

noway
an in-game event

[umbral rose]

Ooo trying out 4.5 I see

[delicate wren]

there's only a single difference

one used 🌊 another used false

so the one on the left is more correct

okay maybe 500 lines is too long

highlights

self.🌳.🦋🦋🦊(🍭)
self.🍂[🍙].🍭 = 🍃;
let 🦋_🍭 = &mut self.🌳.🦋🦋🦊(🍃)
🍭🍉!(🦋_🍭.is_none());

https://gist.github.com/afeistel/7e63f433f1930c9a9dc22b352d65f12d

oaky this seems fairly consistent/varied

time to reverse

for some reason it forgets the same part each time

#[🌿]
fn 🦋(&mut self, 🦋: 🦋, 🍀: 🍀) {
    🍭🍉!(🍀 < 🍙);
    self.🥨[🍀] -= 1;
    let (🍭, 🦋) = match 🦋 {
        🦋::🍂 => {
            self.🍂[🍀] = 🦋::🍂;
            return;
        }
        🦋 { 🍭: 🍂, 🦋 } => {
            let 🦋 = self🌳.🦋🦋🦊(🦋).expect("🦋 not found");
            let 🦋 = 🦋.🍂[🍀].as_mut().expect("🦋 not linked");
            let 🍭 = &mut self.🍂[🍀];
            (🍭, 🦋)
        }
        🦋 { 🍭, 🦋: 🍂 } => {
            let 🍭 = self🌳.🦋🦋🦊(🍭).expect("🍭 not found");
            let 🍭 = 🍭.🍂[🍀].as_mut().expect("🍭 not linked");
            let 🦋 = &mut self.🍂[🍀];
            (🍭, 🦋)
        }
        🦋 { 🍭, 🦋 } => {
            let (🍭, 🦋) = self
                .🌳
                .🦋🦋🦋(🍭, 🦋)
                .expect("🍭 or 🦋 not found");
            let 🍭 = 🍭.🍂[🍀].as_mut().expect("🍭 not linked");
            let 🦋 = 🦋.🍂[🍀].as_mut().expect("🦋 not linked");
            (🍭, 🦋)
        }
    };
    🍭.🦋 = 🦋.🦋;
    🦋.🍭 = 🦋.🍭;
}

^ this one is missing in the two attempts of reconstructing I did

[proper ridge]

Interesting.

[hearty heath]

Hey

Sorry I didn't hear you guys. People with loud gardening equipment outside my window 😄

Just closed the window

[delicate wren]

original:
https://docs.rs/ruchei/0.0.95/src/ruchei/collections/linked_slab.rs.html#68-101

and a slightly refactored version
https://github.com/parrrate/ruchei/blob/680c04860c8497ac599e6a233a6a3ce286884c20/src/collections/linked_slab.rs#L68-L109

[stuck bluff]

@lucid kettle 👋

https://tenor.com/view/computer-90s-vintage-retro-start-gif-13284186

[hearty heath]

I remember the star field being a popular choice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ps3wngQspE

We had one of these I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_II_family

We still have an original iMac kicking around we need to get rid of.

Did you have Mavis Beacon? 😄

https://tenor.com/view/mavis-beacon-teaches-typing-game-gif-20229001

[umbral rose]

I loved commander keen and kings quest

[hearty heath]

Did anyone play this game called Yipe III?

Yeah I think it was Mac only 🤔

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Y9tYaS_fKKw

The sounds from that game are etched into my brain

There was a warcraft movie?

Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about games being adapted into films 😄

@mild flume 👋

That would just be like, a war film I guess

[delicate wren]

huh

also, I think, first time seeing more plays in youtube music than on the official music video

... and webrtc is dead again

[delicate wren]

(normally videos generated from audio provided by distributors get less views)

[mild flume]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

Focusing on the young soldier who lied about his age to join the war stuck sweeping for mines to keep his brothers in arms safe

[delicate wren]

or not

idk

[delicate wren]

^ funny Australian vegan music

[hearty heath]

You're just a nerd

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[hearty heath]

I definitely heard that 😄

Yeah I've noticed peoples mic levels being low for a few days

[stuck bluff]

@clever kestrel 👋

@native mauve 👋

https://tenor.com/view/walk-the-dinosaur-was-not-was-80s-music-dance-choreography-gif-18688046

[sterile phoenix]

I can't do webdev lol

I would like to think that I'm doing fine

but I don't have a job yet for next year

so there's that lol

[delicate wren]

the sound stopped at "... walks into a bar"
I'll just assume it was the end of the joke and not the VPN failing

[proper ridge]

Two guys walk into a bar, third guy ducks.

[delicate wren]

Opera has a VPN
"no it doesn't it's a myth"

there is a way to reactivate it in Russia

[mild flume]

I wouldn't use it regardless

[delicate wren]

but it doesn't connect

[mild flume]

I'm just glad you're still able to be here

[delicate wren]

just curl it

[mild flume]

You mean iwr?

[delicate wren]

curl is funnier, especially when an hour-long build step crashes because you forgot to install it

along with openssl

[midnight dagger]

I have some crazy shit to tell

[sterile phoenix]

@mild flume sounds like you are one step away from reccomending foot binding

[mild flume]

Do note, I'm possibly saying the origin, not that it's what I say is good

[mild flume]

Sup?

[proper ridge]

Dress for the occassion?

[sterile phoenix]

fair enough hahaha. There is a jest in my tone that I think was missing

[mild flume]

I getcha I getcha

[proper ridge]

King bling feels like a cool way to say it hehe.

[sterile phoenix]

HAHAHAH CALLED IT!

[proper ridge]

bling meant dress right?

[sterile phoenix]

Poor blue collar workers like neurosurgeon and astronaut

[delicate wren]

I really dislike typing with fingernails cut very short

[mild flume]

I prefer it

[delicate wren]

sound doesn't really matter in my case because the keypress itself is way louder

[mild flume]

Huh.... Opera has a built-in crypto wallet

Learn something new every day

[delicate wren]

telegram does too

and used to have a built-in proxy too

[crimson peak]

why are there 500 people in vc damn

[mild flume]

So I'm not saying you can't count, buuuuuuut....

[delicate wren]

last time I used a membrane keyboard I noticed just how much force I apply to the keys, it's as loud as a mechanical one

[stuck bluff]

Join.

[delicate wren]

1325

[stuck bluff]

See what the fuss is about.

[crimson peak]

sounds like i'll be bad at python

[mild flume]

Nah, that's why you have Python to do the math for you

It's why I do it

[delicate wren]

or, like, split 13-25 and there's 38 in total

[mild flume]

True

[crimson peak]

i just found out my computing degree barely touches python the entirety of it

will have to self learn

[delicate wren]

what, if any, programming languages are there?

[stuck bluff]

Such is often the way.

[crimson peak]

its apparently 80% javascript

[crimson peak]

oh im glad its the norm then

[delicate wren]

JS is fine

[crimson peak]

cuz otherwise disadvantaged professionally

[sterile phoenix]

can I DM you @mild flume ?

java also means people

and langauge

and island

and culture

[mild flume]

I don't mind

[sterile phoenix]

HAHAHAHA

@stuck bluff they misseed the jokeeee!!!

good one

I feel like, the best joke is when exactly only half of the people get it

yes definitely

[rotund bough]

narc

[sterile phoenix]

I drink coffe and tea

[rotund bough]

who invited the narc?

[mild flume]

@umbral rose Can't use Opera. It doesn't have the extension for the password manager I use for work

Kind of bummed, looks nice

Oh no wait hold on

Dafuq, it didn't show up previously

[carmine heath]

i'll right back in a sec wait

AFK

[mild flume]

THIS TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES

[umbral rose]

Sounds like it's there

[mild flume]

Yeah I just went to their site and it was sitting there staring me in the face

Huh looking at my extensions, that's really the only one I need

Weird

Thought I used the other ones more but nope

[delicate wren]

"El Salvador has Bitcoin"

[sterile phoenix]

That actually make sense

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_Confinement this is a great idea! Something serious enough, but still does not ruin someone's life. Let them keep their job or something like that

[wary fable]

I still think we should overhaul community service so it can be used to teach blue-collar skills that can be used to get a job. This way the person is punished by working for free, but can also be rehabilitated by gaining skills that will make them a functioning, contributing member of society.

[terse sierra]

mold = blue rice ?

[delicate wren]

- vertical monitor to make reading test case names easier
- did you mean horizontal?
- no, vertical, you read it like a book
@mild flume

[mild flume]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

I miss my portrait monitor....

So nice for documentation

[wary fable]

https://pkg.go.dev/log/slog

[delicate wren]

log, slog and tracing in Rust all support some structure too

although in log it's experimental

also minitrace or whatever it's called

so many

[wary fable]

https://pkg.go.dev/log/slog#JSONHandler it would be nice if we could get something like this added to python's logging so I don't have to copypaste from my notes app every single time

[delicate wren]

I might've at some point went through ~20 pages of logging-related crates at some point

just to see what exists

[mild flume]

Is slog a streaming log?

[delicate wren]

structured

log has KVs

tracing and minitrace allow nested contexts

(Rust)

[sterile phoenix]

hi

[delicate wren]

I've made FFI bindings for tracing and minitrace but haven't published them yet

not entirely sure if those are valuable at all

webrtc is experiencing a loss of stability event

both have a singular commit in them

0.0.0-0

[summer kiln]

Hi

[proper ridge]

BRB

[delicate wren]

WebRTC being UDP is quite a pain recently

(cannot avoid packet inspection generally)

oh, and Tor disables it completely

[delicate wren]

@mortal stone having to figure all that out is part of learning how to program (and general "struggling to get something done");
so it's not clear whether very high availability of knowledge is definitively better for education;
at some point students/beginners need to realise that, at times, intentionally limiting yourself in terms of what you look up online is useful

@viral leaf it stands for:
away from keyboard

[viral leaf]

Ohhh ty

[delicate wren]

availability of information is good, but following the happy path of "everything is available online, I can just look it up, I can just the LLM" should be cut very early in the learning process

lack of information forces learning through struggle and hard work

step 1:
forget C++ exists, don't go that way until you absolutely need to

[viral leaf]

Okey

[viral leaf]

Yes true
But there r many resourses available online soo which one should i choose

[viral leaf]

Okey i got u

[delicate wren]

learn C and Python in parallel, those languages are very close in some ways, because of:

1. CPython being built in C and being quite a leaky abstraction
2. Python is one of the main ways to get easier access to C/C++/Fortran/Rust libraries in a scripting language

and, while being close in that way, they're still very different as languages

[viral leaf]

Okey

[mortal stone]

Very correct! Kudos

[sly pond]

CPython is

https://www.jython.org/

[delicate wren]

is it still 2.7?

[sly pond]

yea, lol

still "work towards 3"

[delicate wren]

still "2 (sorry)"

there's a Rust reimplementation of Python interpreter also

[sly pond]

https://github.com/RustPython/RustPython

Was on the tip of my clipboard

[delicate wren]

and ironpython for .net, iirc

stuck at 2 too

oh, wow, not anymore

[sly pond]

Ooh, 3.4

Fstring in 2030?

[delicate wren]

"by that point everyone will switch back from .NET to JVM"

I wonder if Java will ever end up having async-await;
it no longer has a reason to have it, but who knows what might happen

given it's a language with ~43 interfaces to describe function-like objects

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/util/function/package-summary.html

[sly pond]

Britney Spears was on the Mickey Mouse Club

Were you a costar?

With a musical career?

Just like Britney?

I'm aware of the case surrounding her

I don't think it's the same as yours

as that one was 100% about her money

There was a conservatorship

[mortal stone]

@viral leaf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-_bwXOj8B8&t=373s

[delicate wren]

(just note that Jake Tran is not a trustworthy channel)

[sly pond]

The video image clearly shows a bit of bias

[sly pond]

Have you worked in software? Work hard and fast, get more work, work slow and lazy? Get the same pay for less work.
That exterior entity is your employer. @hot patrol

[mortal stone]

btw Krystof

https://www.google.com/search?q=china+communist+party&sca_esv=a705397e3bbcc753&udm=2&biw=808&bih=649&sxsrf=ADLYWIKrW21Examil_et75aDzbEOotJgCA%3A1729344812044&ei=LLUTZ9u2Ap-Yi-gPude6oAk&oq=china+comm&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiCmNoaW5hIGNvbW0qAggAMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABEiyM1DqGliDKnABeACQAQCYAYUBoAGQBaoBAzkuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCCqACqAWoAgDCAgoQABiABBhDGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAg4QABiABBixAxiDARiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYigXCAhAQABiABBixAxhDGIMBGIoFmAMBkgcDOS4xoAeKMw&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#vhid=-bEluXMAxGJqaM&vssid=mosaic

[sly pond]

Sounds great in theory, in practice, take a loo kat America

[mortal stone]

You said China is not communism?

[sly pond]

Yea

It's not

[mortal stone]

True it's not communism but it's labelled as communislm

That's what i was saying

[sly pond]

Just like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not Democratic, a Republic, nor is it for the people

Just like America is labeled land of the free, where the government has the ability to take away our life without recourse

Not sure how free I am, other than to be slain by my government for no reason

@mortal stone https://steemit.com/philippines/@lapaer06/the-blinking-lavoisier-experiment

[mortal stone]

That's legit what i said

[mortal stone]

Modern goverments don't do that anymore

[sly pond]

lol

America

[mortal stone]

Were speaking about the 1800's

[sly pond]

I'm talking about the country I live in

Today

[mortal stone]

Yeah actually America is one of the only countries with death row

[sly pond]

Not about death row

[mortal stone]

Europe doesn't do that

[delicate wren]

it's even more of "fight for yourself, government isn't going to help you" than Russia/US

[sly pond]

America, land of the corrupt

Microsoft is not run by Bill Gates

Satya Nadella is CEO and Chairman of the board

CEO a decade, chairman for 3 years

I never understood that shit

the chairman of the board is the final authority for the CEO

Literally he has his job, and he is his own boss

Bill Gates owns 1.3% of MIcrosoft, Ballmer (former CEO) owns 4%

[delicate wren]

"can't ban => regulate"

[delicate wren]

"can't regulate => ???"

("can't ban" being it will still happen often and openly anyway and the ban is unenforcable)

[tender bison]

I want to be a devil's advocate here and say that Trump is a climate denier however he is someone who says this without any bias. While biden-kamala are someone who says things that they don't make any sense.

[sly pond]

unaware of what's going on

SCOTUS

president picks justices

[sly pond]

What?

[tender bison]

Biden once called Ukarain President as President Putin so it's safe to say he has lost his mind. I think this is the reason why Elon sided with Trump so that he at least gets a proper reply. Elon is someone who has lots of potential if bureaucracy lets him do as he pleases however there needs to be check and balances.

[sly pond]

Elon has been shifting further and further right for the last like 5+ years

I don't think it has anythign to do with Biden's diminished mental capacity

Like, at all.

[delicate wren]

Trump has lost his mind way before Biden did

[sly pond]

I don't think Elon is scared of being called NotElon

by an elderly man

Elon wants to make more money

Money

the reason is money

Less regulation for his businesses so he can extract a larger % of the wealth produced by labor

[tender bison]

Let's say he did lose his mind but there is no alternative from the republican party.

[sly pond]

What?

They had a choice, the Republican voters wanted another go with Trump

[tender bison]

True cause less regulation and position of power can make things happen faster. But some of the things he adovcates for truly make humanity thrive let it be moving to Mars or making life easier on Earth we get to see new tech and better products cause of his innovation.

[sly pond]

Yea, who cares if more people die. Why bother with ethics, speed of improvement matters more.

That'll never happen with the current system

We need publicly funded elections for that to happen

[tender bison]

That's how things have been for decades and no one has the balls to come out with a plan and effort to change the process.

[sly pond]

Do you read Any of the bad news out of his companies?

or only the visionary "in 2 years" stuff that's stil l2 years away

and was a decade ago

How's that $40k Cybertruck coming along?

I see it starts at $81k

quite the lie he sold us

I do use my one vote every year

well, two generally, primaries and general

No, but there is

[proper ridge]

If I beg you, will you not discuss politics for one day guys?

[sly pond]

but we've been having a fun chat that somehow got here, I didn't even take us here 😲

Have a lovely day

❤️

[mortal stone]

Man don't leave

Pls

[sly pond]

It was time

kids got activities

can't do them in my pjs at the computer

for loops are great conversation starters, while's can sometimes get infinitely stuck

[tender bison]

So now that we are back to coding talk what do you think gork is running on ?

No matter how much you deny politics is what runs the counties and policies everywhere you good that we are talking about this but this is not the place to talk politics.

@mortal stone What coding languages are you good at ?

Are you learning something right now ?

[proper ridge]

I am not forcing to talk about coding (as much as I would like people to discuss it given this is a python server), but anything besides politics. This war going on is fucking up many countries, some of which are not even going to exist in a few years.

Hearing about it daily is quite frustrating, and I don't think it's fair to be punished for this whenever I join the vc to talk with my community.

There's literally a server called politics and religion, where they talk about exactly these (I can even see them going on about US election right now).

[tender bison]

I have seen many youtubers suggesting not to go for cisco certification as its a niche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egksNbkEtMI

Have you seen a video from linus taking the compt ITA exam and recommending not to take it as it not relevant anymore.

compTIA**

Where are you taking this course from is it a paid course ?

Can you suggest that course for me ? Do you have a link or something plus what are the salary we are looking at once you get a job ?

Let say I'm in the IT field for some time now and I have been troubleshooting computers. So where should I go from here out to get a good job.

Networking Engineer + Cyber Security Analyst

Yeah fundamentals of operating system, Network OIS model little bit of programming as well.

[sterile phoenix]

Can you give me a job as well? lol

[tender bison]

I know some cloud IAM, EC2, S3, EBS and also hardware I'm familiar with Desktop changes

So what is the road map ?

[sterile phoenix]

What I REALLY want to do, is to make tailor made deep learning architecture and framework, and then hand it to the engineers.

[tender bison]

In short you want to build chat gpt

[sterile phoenix]

yeaaa AI

[mortal stone]

https://www.netacad.com/courses/introduction-data-science?courseLang=en-US

[sterile phoenix]

No, I want to make a new AI that will be better than chat GPT for the client's specific requriements

[sterile phoenix]

I don't want courses tho, I want a job lol

[tender bison]

What are your skills ?

[sterile phoenix]

@mortal stone How about networking. Do you know anyone who wants someone like me?

[sterile phoenix]

make tailor made deep learning architecture and framework, usually for timeseries data.

[mortal stone]

https://www.netacad.com/courses/networking-basics?courseLang=en-US

https://www.netacad.com/courses/python-essentials-1?courseLang=en-US

https://www.netacad.com/courses/linux-unhatched?courseLang=en-US

https://www.netacad.com/courses/computer-hardware-basics?courseLang=en-US

https://www.netacad.com/courses/introduction-iot?courseLang=en-US

https://www.netacad.com/courses/c-essentials-1?courseLang=en-US

Only take this course if you have taken all of the above :

https://www.netacad.com/courses/introduction-to-cybersecurity?courseLang=en-US

[tender bison]

Are these free to take or do we need to pay for these ?

[mortal stone]

https://www.netacad.com/career-paths/cybersecurity?courseLang=en-US

[mortal stone]

all free

Yep

[tender bison]

Hey thanks will go through all of them and possibly apply for a job. Thanks a lot

[mortal stone]

Anytime :;D

[tender bison]

These are in-depth I can't

File Transfer Protocol.

I guess it send message protolcol

Basically deals with how a message is sent from one place to the other

By the way Happy Birthday @mortal stone hope you enjoy the rest of the day.

[mortal stone]

Thanks

😄

[tender bison]

Alright dropping off for now enjoy the rest of the day.

[summer kiln]

Hello everyone

[sly pond]

Hello

[viral leaf]

@serene quail u would tease me

on my accent

@serene quail

accent

[thorny rover]

hello

I am not able to speak bacause I do not have more than 50 messeges lol

what are you guys even discussing?

computer manufacturing compnies?

[viral leaf]

hiii

[viral leaf]

its fine dw

[viral leaf]

not really
u got any topics to talk about?

[thorny rover]

naah, I just heard you guys talking about networking and then you quickly moved on company names lol

that's why was wondering what you guys are talking abt

[viral leaf]

ohh he forgot his wifi password

trying to help

[viral leaf]

yes u heard that correct

[thorny rover]

ahh lol

[viral leaf]

Sir I need help

[viral leaf]

yep

[viral leaf]

check ur status on #voice-verification

soo u can

[thorny rover]

press reset button on router for more than 10 secs

it'll reset password

noo

then you can login on 192.168.0.1 (gateway) using default username and password

[viral leaf]

sir please check ur status on #voice-verification

[thorny rover]

which is present on router's back sticker

[thorny rover]

checked, I'm on 14-16 messages rn lol

[viral leaf]

alr np

[viral leaf]

type only one word at a time and do it quickly

[thorny rover]

password must be mentioned explicitely

[viral leaf]

so we can talk

[thorny rover]

hehe spamming is the way then

[viral leaf]

yep ikr hehe

lol

[thorny rover]

lol

[viral leaf]

check it there as well

nice

[thorny rover]

now

[viral leaf]

lol

[thorny rover]

we

[viral leaf]

hehe

[thorny rover]

i

hate

this

[viral leaf]

friends?

[thorny rover]

hehe

sure

[viral leaf]

ty

[thorny rover]

43

[viral leaf]

nice

[thorny rover]

messages

do

[viral leaf]

come

now do

[delicate wren]

what does #voice-verification say on that matter?

[serene quail]

Pls help some1

Im a failure

[thorny rover]

bruuvv sleep

[thorny rover]

able to speak now (after spamming more than 50 messages lol)

[elder wraith]

We can fix that tomorrow with the mods

[thorny rover]

💀

I can't even comment on that

[delicate wren]

I recommend learning to read through the rules and instructions, that's a useful skill to have

[thorny rover]

Ig it would detect spamming if I have sent same message multiple times (maybe more than or equal to 50) but I have had few interactions earlier (14 messages) so it didn't counted as spamming? Even though sadly it was

[delicate wren]

^ this is spam

splitting messages into single words specifically to achieve the message count is spam too

[delicate wren]

unless you were referring to the number of lambda inferfaces Java 8 has

[thorny rover]

Yes I know. That's why I said "it was"

I am not proud of that either

[thorny rover]

That's like the weirdest number to remember lol

[serene quail]

Still trying

Its still not working its not firewall

Its the port setup

Port forwarding

[subtle cedar]

What we talking about?

[thorny rover]

Bro was trying to setup personal minecraft server

[mild flume]

# Function to monitor the Windows service
def monitor_service(service_name):
    while True:
        try:
            # Check if the service is running
            service = psutil.win_service_get(service_name)
            status = service.status()
            
            # Update the GUI based on service status
            if status == 'running':
                set_value("service_status", "Running")
            else:
                set_value("service_status", "Not Running")
        except Exception as e:
            set_value("service_status", f"Error: {e}")
        
        time.sleep(5)  # Check every 5 seconds

@worthy stump

[mortal stone]

Hey guys idk if i am allowed to say this Hemlock can correct me, but i'm live in Twitch.
Currently refreshing my memory on Python :
https://www.twitch.tv/cyberdevil669

[stuck bluff]

@proper ridge I did some practical experiments.

The bogo has 1.7 reshuffles on average on top of the initial attempt. Holds up with whatever the sequence length is, which I suspected would be the case. Worst case, it runs until the end of time, but it's actually fairly manageable, statistically.

Except for lengths 2 and 3.

They're around 1 and 2 respectively. Statistics!

@visual rampart 👋

@misty sinew 👋

[mild flume]

#voice-verification

[misty sinew]

@stuck bluff 👋

[visual rampart]

k thanks lol

[stuck bluff]

@misty sinew 👋

@last crest 👋

[misty sinew]

yes?

[last crest]

@mild flume sorry mate can i get my voice role back cuz some bot entered my acc left all my servers.U prob remember me for saying books >> courses

[stuck bluff]

Hello.

[mild flume]

Give me a bit, eating food

[misty sinew]

Hello

[last crest]

ok

[mild flume]

Should just need to leave and rejoin the chat

[last crest]

ok i left

[mild flume]

... and rejoin the chat

Crap, brb. I have to do shred

Knew I was forgetting something this morning

[stuck bluff]

@main crane 👋

[delicate wren]

https://docs.astral.sh/uv/getting-started/installation/

[stuck bluff]

@edgy pewter 👋

[delicate wren]

and/or Docker if you have that installed

or just py if it's installed

[steady finch]

Py -m pip install <pkg name>

[hearty heath]

Hey

Looks can be deceiving 😄

With Linux you usually end up spending tonnes of time configuring things

But you can get it set up just the way you like so 🤷‍♂️

Be right back

[fair heron]

linux can update all tools at the same time

[stuck bluff]

@tropic jungle 👋

[tropic jungle]

Hello Everyone

[delicate wren]

recently noticed that I, at times, start speaking very fast with better pronunciation than normal, and I just cannot replicate that out of context

like the brain happens to "precompute" what's needed to do, or something like that

[proper ridge]

FINALY!

I'm gonna go drink water. I got too stressed HEHEHE.

[delicate wren]

I'm radically opposed to ever viewing AI in its current state as a teacher

GPT has no experience, it only has "knowledge"

(and LLMs in generally)

the "is this response okay?" feedback does not count, for obvious reasons

reminder: if you use AI-generated code without at least leaving a note that it's AI generated, be ready to take all the blame for how bad it is, because, well, deserved

[proper ridge]

The time it takes to explain the task to the AI, and check its work, you'd be able to just do it on your own in usually a better way.

I honestly can't say it's done anything beyond a year old developer.

[delicate wren]

at a certain complexity level, no one and no thing can generate working and actually useful code without running it along the way

and, yes, that level is not that low

These tests have independently concluded that there was a bug in the script, due to a minor typographical error, rendering the algorithm in its original state unusable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_G

[delicate wren]

you can, if you memorise, write B-Trees from memory, but if you or AI need to make some unusual adjustments or optimisations, that's going to fail instantly

[sleek thunder]

Right, but it can still speed up the process, in many ways

[delicate wren]

or, quite often, slow it down

[sleek thunder]

That depends on the way we use it

[delicate wren]

not entirely

"oh, you're just using AI wrong" is the new "you're just investing in the wrong cryptocurrency tokens"

"if you pay me, I'll sure sell you the courses on how to do it right"

[sleek thunder]

No way that's an totally different thing

[delicate wren]

some problems are just not fit for AI

there is no way to use it right at times

[sleek thunder]

Well not all but many are

Like u have to create a like post feature in a new app, since these kind of feature already there in market
It can create the model for that and all the required api's in 1-2 min and then human may take 10-15min to test

Instead of thinking and writing those logics by own

[delicate wren]

or you can use an existing library/app instead of asking AI to reinvent the wheel

and if there's no existing library/app, surprise surprise AI has no clue how to do it

[sleek thunder]

but again researching for that library takes more time

feature like Likes are really small

or lets say report feature

It's really difficult to get a library that integrate well with current code structure

[delicate wren]

tests aren't enough

you need to actually review the code

[sleek thunder]

like which library gonna give me like models integrate with my post model, also licensing comes in the place with library and there mantainance as well

[sleek thunder]

Thats what the Human Intellegence is for
We need to use it for library as well sometimes