voice-chat-text-1

[delicate wren]

yes

[mild flume]

My second guess was Fart

[delicate wren]

"which of the copilots"

[mild flume]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers

Neat

[delicate wren]

these emojis in terminal output are confusing me

[mild flume]

Last one maybe todo?

The snake feels obvious...

Origin for the satellite maybe...

Yeah no idea, actually

[wary fable]

Damage survey continues, January was a doozy

[umbral rose]

!stream 239917638656983040

[coarse hearth]

✅ @wary fable can now stream until <t:1718127628:f>.

[umbral rose]

!stream 958057865032106045

[coarse hearth]

✅ @ashen willow can now stream until <t:1718127643:f>.

[delicate wren]

okay so the test project seems to work

@wary fable
single player Diplomacy would truly be an experience

0 player is the best option for CNA

Valefisk is trying

"refund policy: can't claim it's a bad experience until you've completed the game"

[proper ridge]

Where do you usually put workspaces in Ubuntu?

Clari's real handome. Damn.

[mild flume]

Back later

[thin lintel]

Felip, love the profile pic

[umbral rose]

!stream 958057865032106045

[coarse hearth]

✅ @ashen willow can now stream until <t:1718129121:f>.

[raven orbit]

the train

[wary fable]

I should use this area as my garden, lots of good soil

[wary fable]

I wasn't expecting that tbh

But thank you

[rotund bough]

relax. "handome" isn't even a word

[proper ridge]

I meant handsome, my apologies.

[proper ridge]

You are most welcome sir.

[wary fable]

Men panicking upon receiving a compliment, what else is new?

I wonder how crazy it would be if I screenshared my phone while operating my drone...

DJI Mini 2 uses your phone as the screen for the RC

[unborn marlin]

Any game devs in here?

[rotund bough]

more like you didn't get the slapstick humor in "handome is not a word"

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_components/Using_shadow_DOM

[ashen willow]

['aaaaaaaaaa', 'aaaaaaaa', '########, '######']

[rotund bough]

👋

fine

how old r u

🍻

relax n hav a beer

🚬

sorry had to get the door

pardon?

do u code

implicit conversions are evil

it can produce bugs

conversions not conversations

narrowing conversions are especially evil

[stuck bluff]

@kindred zodiac @crisp gust 👋

[crisp gust]

hello how can i help?

[stuck bluff]

@frank fern @copper canyon 👋

@sly rivet 👋

[copper canyon]

Hey

[stuck bluff]

@grave pier 👋

[copper canyon]

not too often do i see simulated quantum computer circuits in the channel

are you using qiskit?

using qiskit is your job?

[stuck bluff]

@floral meteor 👋

[floral meteor]

hello

[stuck bluff]

https://youtu.be/7l8hxPC_91Q?feature=shared

The pitch peaks higher than this, but it's about right.

[copper canyon]

what are you programming

where do you find these bounties?

whats the name of the event

[proper ridge]

UnitaryHack

[copper canyon]

awesome

i understand

its beneficial though for incentivising creation of software

is quantum computing overrated

[wicked flicker]

Hello folks

How are you doing today?

[copper canyon]

so it does the same exact thing as classical computers, but the fact that it uses superposition rather than 0 and 1 makes it rapidly faster than classical super computers ?

[delicate wren]

the idea is to have less separation between development and operations

e.g. by having that done by the same person/team/org

1though often that ends up being just operations

[delicate wren]

in simplified view, it's closer to what GPUs do: parallel processing of things that don't require conditionality/branching/etc.

[copper canyon]

we should start mining bitcoin using qiskit algrithms on the IBM premium plan lol

[delicate wren]

getting it to work in classical computer way is too hard

linear computations are faster, non-linear computations are excessively harder (for quantum)

yeah, the big equation is for continuous field stuff, and for computation it's usually more discrete stuff that matters

discrete as in finite number of dimensions that describe the system

[copper canyon]

thank you that was a very informative

[delicate wren]

sequential

[copper canyon]

so the quantum computers computational structure is more effecient because it will do everything at once rather than one at a time

[mild flume]

Bingo

[delicate wren]

similar difference to CPU vs GPU

[copper canyon]

so like a maze instead of trying each path once , a quantum computer will try all paths at the same time

so what im thinking is every classical computer will direct to a quantum computer in the future

[delicate wren]

can't mine Monero on quantum

(their mining algorithm is made to be runnable only on CPU)

privacy-centred cryptocurrency

[copper canyon]

crypto is a good technology

its just crazy rn wild west type of thing

[delicate wren]

I still, when I see "crypto" as a technology, thing of cryptography not cryptocurrency

I refuse to change

[elder wraith]

Just like physics spherical cow they claim that is out there.

[delicate wren]

cryptocurrency here and now solves one and only one problem okay-ish-ly:
an alternative money transfer mechanism (for cases where regular money transfer is impossible)
like, that's all

it's not a good place to save up money, it's not a system to build whatever even remotely good enough logic/protocols on top (like what ethereum tries to do)

@mild flume

the this

[mild flume]

https://leptos.dev/
https://yew.rs/
https://sycamore-rs.netlify.app/

[delicate wren]

or react/others+electron
whatever works

[mild flume]

https://v1.tauri.app/

[delicate wren]

> v1.

[mild flume]

v2 is in beta

Neat thing is that they have a auto migration tool to take you from v1 to v2 https://v2.tauri.app/start/migrate/from-tauri-1/#automated-migration

Although I'm sure the jury is out on how effective that is

[copper canyon]

Complex Simulations:
Chemical Reactions: Simulating molecules and chemical processes, helping scientists discover new medicines.
Material Science: Understanding the properties of new materials for better technology.
Optimization Problems:
Route Planning: Finding the shortest or most efficient paths, like optimizing delivery routes or scheduling.
Resource Allocation: Distributing resources (like energy or products) in the most effective way.
Cryptography:
Breaking Codes: Solving complex encryption problems, which could make or break secure communication.
Secure Communication: Developing new ways to keep information safe using quantum encryption.
Machine Learning:
Training AI: Helping in faster and more efficient training of artificial intelligence models.

[delicate wren]

SIDH right now is easier for classical than for quantum to break

lattice cryptography is the promised solution

SIDH is dead

[copper canyon]

Lattices: These are mathematical structures like grids, but in higher dimensions (imagine a grid extending into space in all directions).

[delicate wren]

ECDH

ECDH rn is considered more quantum safe than just DH

SIDH is dead even on classical

sidh: singular isogeny

ecdh: elliptic curve

[copper canyon]

so ECDH is difficult to crack by both computers

[delicate wren]

ECDH is not considered fully quantum resistant

it's just that there is no clear alrogithm for reversing it yet

ECs directly nowadays aren't that widely used

Edwards curves are the isomorphic equivalent to them which is preferred

rrrrrrr

I don't remember

it's more complex geometrically but numerically it's trivial

where is it

no

wait why is PyNaCl not in !d

rrr

[copper canyon]

Sheeeesh

[delicate wren]

it's non-trivial to traverse docs of

https://pynacl.readthedocs.io/en/latest/signing/#ed25519

[mild flume]

!source

[coarse hearth]

Bot's GitHub Repository

Repository

Go to GitHub

[delicate wren]

on the whole nacl.signing page there is no mention of conversion methods

being unable to get signingkey from verifykey is just an interface nuance, if I understand correctly

[copper canyon]

pySodium

[delicate wren]

PyNaCl

bindings to libsodium

of a NaCl library

pronounced "salt"

[mild flume]

reqwests

[delicate wren]

ureq

no u

[mild flume]

[copper canyon]

pyNACl is meant for Crptography and not chem?

[delicate wren]

there was a method with a name so cursed scipy had to rename it

whereas matlab kept it as is

* function

[delicate wren]

@mild flume have you seen that one?

[mild flume]

https://github.com/python-discord/bot/tree/main/bot/exts/info/doc

[delicate wren]

now it's cumulative_trapezoid

[delicate wren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper canyon]

anyone here ever created a NN?

yes

[delicate wren]

using just numpy? yes
using just python itself? yes

why? yes

[copper canyon]

ice cream is super stupid

haha

[copper canyon]

i want to make one

where was your source of info to build one

[delicate wren]

MIPT's course

[copper canyon]

what type did you make

like a CNN or ANN

[delicate wren]

convolutional news network

[copper canyon]

Convolouted Nueral network good sir

[delicate wren]

I did try making an RNN

it somewhat worked

[delicate wren]

wasm wasm

I can't remember what was the name of that Rust framework that Primeagen uses

I always forget it

something starting with L, that's all I can remember

yes

[copper canyon]

what do you guys make in rust?

[delicate wren]

currently trying to decide whether to make asyncio-to-async-rust bindings portable or only for systems with eventfd (no Windows)

[copper canyon]

log rocket?

[delicate wren]

use Rust's async fns inside Python

!d asyncio.loop.add_reader

[coarse hearth]

asyncio.loop.add\_reader

loop.add_reader(fd, callback, *args)```
Start monitoring the *fd* file descriptor for read availability and invoke *callback* with the specified arguments once *fd* is available for reading.

[delicate wren]

pyo3 has experimental support for it

https://pyo3.rs/v0.21.2/async-await

and
https://pyo3.rs/v0.21.2/ecosystem/async-await.html

[copper canyon]

async just means that specific function takes priority and is read first by the computer right

?

[delicate wren]

they aren't yet sure they're stable enough

pyo3 right now are transitioning to new API

so obviously not stable enough to be 1.0

yet

[copper canyon]

swag

[delicate wren]

serde had >80 versions before 1.0

... and 204 bersions since 1.0

it's at 1.0.203 currently

(so 204 including 1.0.0)

[delicate wren]

backwards- and future-compatible because all updates are patch-only

typical dtolnay moment

there is no real way to add features

[copper canyon]

python is using rust?

[delicate wren]

another

[delicate wren]

many packages and build tools nowadays do

[copper canyon]

oh ok

[delicate wren]

it got into spec

dict ordering

[copper canyon]

OCD

[delicate wren]

JS and C# allow overriding how it works, to some level

[visual crypt]

how to make a macro in python

what are you coding now?

[delicate wren]

JS example:
https://vercel.com/docs/storage/vercel-postgres/quickstart#add-data-to-your-table

(look at sql`...` specifically)

it's sanitised SQL even though it doesn't look like it

[copper canyon]

let mut my_vector: Vec<i32> = Vec::new();
my_vector.push(1);
my_vector.push(2);
my_vector.push(3);
========================= let my_vector = vec![1, 2, 3];

[delicate wren]

and in C# there is a thing about how format strings providing extra details

[copper canyon]

literally omg like like

[delicate wren]

(but there it's more implicit and might be less stable/guaranteed? idk)

[visual crypt]

what @ do in python?

[delicate wren]

!d decorator

[coarse hearth]

decorator

A function returning another function, usually applied as a function transformation using the @wrapper syntax. Common examples for decorators are classmethod() and staticmethod().

The decorator syntax is merely syntactic sugar, the following two function definitions are semantically equivalent:

def f(arg):
    ...
f = staticmethod(f)

@staticmethod
def f(arg):
    ...
```...

[visual crypt]

what are you doing now?

[delicate wren]

@mild flume look at what JS can do

[mild flume]

No

Nooooo no no no no

No

Why

[copper canyon]

thats nasty

[delicate wren]

for stuff like this

[visual crypt]

do functions need to return value in python

what staticmethod do?

[copper canyon]

!d staticmethod

[coarse hearth]

staticmethod

@staticmethod```
Transform a method into a static method.

A static method does not receive an implicit first argument. To declare a static method, use this idiom:

```py
class C:
    @staticmethod
    def f(arg1, arg2, argN): ...
```  The `@staticmethod` form is a function [decorator](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-decorator) – see [Function definitions](https://docs.python.org/3/reference/compound_stmts.html#function) for details.

A static method can be called either on the class (such as `C.f()`) or on an instance (such as `C().f()`). Moreover, the static method [descriptor](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-descriptor) is also callable, so it can be used in the class definition (such as `f()`)...

[delicate wren]

!e

class Example:
    @staticmethod
    def f():
        print(123)

Example.f()
Example().f()

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 123
002 | 123

[visual crypt]

d' is not recognized as an internal or external command,

[delicate wren]

!e

def return_none():
    return None

def return_nothing():
    return

def no_return():
    pass

print(return_none())
print(return_nothing())
print(no_return())

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | None
002 | None
003 | None

[visual crypt]

!d staticmethod

what languages do you use beside python

return_none()

[copper canyon]

i use rust js html tailwind swift

[delicate wren]

"tailwind is now a language"

[copper canyon]

lol no

[unborn marlin]

@mild flume One of the best books...

[mild flume]

Sure but as a book for the major?

[copper canyon]

NeoVim is the best lang

[unborn marlin]

@rotund bough Do you run a business?

[delicate wren]

Black Friday, the marketing term, is definitely a thing here

[copper canyon]

cybermonday has gotten more popular i think

[delicate wren]

(not US)

huh
wikipedia is finally bringing back the wide UI

[copper canyon]

bearish is down

[visual crypt]

what is name ?

[delicate wren]

@mild flume what you talk about probably is shark

not bull/bear

[visual crypt]

what is "name"

[mild flume]

__name__

[delicate wren]

!e

print(__name__)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

__main__

[copper canyon]

!e ```if name == "main":
print("Hello")

[delicate wren]

for directory-based modules (packages), there is __main__.py thing

!e

def main():
    print("stuff")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

stuff

[delicate wren]

sqlite3 module has __main__ since 3.12

[copper canyon]

[delicate wren]

draw.io is looking great after the update

me with my singular "pay all taxes" button

[visual crypt]

"parse" is not defined

[delicate wren]

what are you parsing

[visual crypt]

parse(argv[1])

[delicate wren]

!d argparse

[coarse hearth]

argparse

Added in version 3.2.

Source code: Lib/argparse.py

Tutorial

This page contains the API reference information. For a more gentle introduction to Python command-line parsing, have a look at the argparse tutorial.

The argparse module makes it easy to write user-friendly command-line interfaces. The program defines what arguments it requires, and argparse will figure out how to parse those out of sys.argv. The argparse module also automatically generates help and usage messages. The module will also issue errors when users give the program invalid arguments.

[delicate wren]

hmm

not exactly that but similar

[copper canyon]

anyone interested in nuclear fusion

[visual crypt]

argparse" is not defined

do i need to import it?

[copper canyon]

microblackholes are the new wave of batteries

[delicate wren]

if you're using modern Python, it will tell you that you need to import it

!e

argparse

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 |     argparse
004 | NameError: name 'argparse' is not defined. Did you forget to import 'argparse'?

[delicate wren]

Did you forget to import 'argparse'?

[copper canyon]

!user

[coarse hearth]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[copper canyon]

what yall do for work?

what field

[unborn marlin]

What are some good tools to get into game design? Should I just start with unity?

[proper ridge]

Best to ask in a game dev server.

If you mean 3D development, then try the Blendr discord.

[unborn marlin]

action platform

2d

[copper canyon]

or unreal

true

or create it from scratch using c++

jp

[unborn marlin]

Thank-you!

[copper canyon]

thats insane

i have to take assembly this summer

its gonna be fun

[unborn marlin]

is C# okay in Unity for action platform ? I just want to have fun... Not make the most efficient.

[copper canyon]

C++++

[unborn marlin]

How do I spell that?

[mild flume]

Godot

[unborn marlin]

TY

@mild flume Be comfotable with the pause.

[copper canyon]

dont forget to have swag

[unborn marlin]

I'm sure there's a plethora of public speaking courses.

[copper canyon]

minecraft is the best game for learning

[unborn marlin]

Do y'all play Rust?

[copper canyon]

with all the right mods you can learn anything

[mild flume]

True

[copper canyon]

no but i want to

[delicate wren]

minecraft+opencomputers

[copper canyon]

I heard its insanely addicitng

[delicate wren]

I have a better Rust to play with

[unborn marlin]

It is!

[delicate wren]

my next big PC project will end up costing me at least $500

but that's for a server

[proper ridge]

500 isn't that much yeah

Most high end pcs are around 3k.

[delicate wren]

that's for used CPU, used motherboard and used RAM

those total to $420

[proper ridge]

Gotcha. Yeah, the GPU is half the price.

[unborn marlin]

@rotund bough Where are you from?

[delicate wren]

I have the GPU already

the best GPU, 1050 ti

but it'll be there only for initial setup

[copper canyon]

follow your dreams

[delicate wren]

I might keep GPU there because it's technically CUDA-compatible

@mild flume or odroid h3/h4 which are cheap enough while being not arm

raspberry pi isn't enough for some stuff

[delicate wren]

x86-64

hundred dollars single board

... not including ssd/ram

for $200 they also give a board with four ethernet ports

[copper canyon]

any suggesstions on what i should make in rust

what problems need to be solved!!!

[delicate wren]

or no, wait, no, sata not ethernet
or both

I don't remember

they all have at least two

[copper canyon]

yeah feels lik everything has been solved idk whats out there anymore

[delicate wren]

my current has two ethernet ports

[copper canyon]

thats so true

[delicate wren]

I've seen enough things that haven't been solved

[copper canyon]

example please

or make it better @mild flume

[delicate wren]

to make ubuntu fail to boot

[copper canyon]

welp ima checkout qiskit

[delicate wren]

ffi support for tracing crate for Rust

[rotund bough]

Whos asking

[copper canyon]

ill try it out

[delicate wren]

@proper ridge echo might be caused by automatic gain

[wraith portal]

i think he is asking

[proper ridge]

I enabled krisp, hopefully it'll help. If not, I'll mute.

[wicked flicker]

Are Udemy Python courses any good?

[mild flume]

Depends on the person

I personally don't do well with courses, but I know others that love them

The Udemy ones aren't too bad

[wraith portal]

naw

[wicked flicker]

Looking for any good courses, which I can use

[delicate wren]

realpython if you really want to pay

[wicked flicker]

Even if I have to pay cash, I'll learn Python

[wraith portal]

learn python.org

read doc

[wicked flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-i-will-not-be-defeated-never-give-up-gif-22740130

[proper ridge]

MIT OCW 6.0001 and 6.0002

[wraith portal]

learnpython.org

[mild flume]

You don't have to pay

[copper canyon]

i reccomend tackling a elemntary project and watch youtube videos

python is easy to learn

[mild flume]

Like there's tons of free resources out there, and the community can help clarify any concepts or questions you have

!resources

[coarse hearth]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[proper ridge]

No no, then he's gonna be the guy who says what is this error
module numpy not found.

He needs to learn the basics first before moving to a project.

Projects just flesh out the learnings.

[copper canyon]

okie doke

[delicate wren]

open source open contribution

[proper ridge]

I made a blender mesh as logo for qoin.

And no one here starred my repo.

I am...heartbroken * princess pose

[mild flume]

https://www.qemu.org/

[copper canyon]

hes tryna become irobot

@ashen willow use nmap

[mild flume]

https://puppylinux-woof-ce.github.io/

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/redfin/

[delicate wren]

... and this is how you docker on android

[mild flume]

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/host-a-web-server-on-android

[wicked flicker]

Is it OK, if I run Python 3.11 instead of Python 3.12?

[rotund bough]

yes.. unless some lib has a 3.12 dep

[wicked flicker]

I installed Python through Microsoft store, I installed 3.11 first

How do I set it to 3.12?

I have VS code

As my IDE

[hearty heath]

You can install both at the same time, just download the installer from python.org

I recommend not using the version from the Microsoft store

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3119/

On Windows, Python comes with a small utility called py, which you can use to select a python interpreter or see which python versions you have installed on the command line.

[wicked flicker]

I just installed 3.12 again

It seems to work

[hearty heath]

Oh ok. Sometimes you may find around October-ish some libraries don't work with the newest version of Python because they haven't been updated yet.

But 3.12 has been around for a while now so most actively maintained libraries should work with it.

[wicked flicker]

I bought an Udemy course on Python

I know we have free resources, but I still need to be tutored somehow

[hearty heath]

Oh cool, which course?

[wicked flicker]

Gimme a sec

[wicked flicker]

https://www.udemy.com/course/beginner-python/?couponCode=ST21MT61124

[hearty heath]

I've not seen that one but it seems well reviewed

Honestly any course is pretty much as good as any other for the basics, as long as it's reasonably good.

[wicked flicker]

I chose it, mainly because they are using VS code

[hearty heath]

Ah ok

[wicked flicker]

But I'll learn the basics here hopefully

Is it possible to write a wallpaper switcher app for desktop?

In Python of course

[hearty heath]

You should be able to. It would involve interacting with the windows API using python, which is not something I've done personally

[wicked flicker]

What's an API?

[wraith portal]

https://suno.com/song/c2f3d134-514d-4d96-8628-74e1379e440b

[visual crypt]

!d api

[coarse hearth]

api

Similar names: discordpy.api, disnake.api, more_itertools.api, attr.api, pandas.api, msgspec.api, requests.api, requests.doc.api, pyside2.api, flask.api, nextcord.api

[rotund bough]

it's an interface that allows one program to be called by another program

[edgy chasm]

decided to make a vampire survivors clone

idk why

saw someone make one in 10 lines

but that was godot

this is some really bad code..

trying to fit the entire game in 50 lines

or less

BRO

WE HEAR U

sure

@small plaza here

😭

yea

oh no

cant help with react

dockerize?

never used docker before

[edgy chasm]

no

wtf is rollup linux

[hearty rover]

Hello

[edgy chasm]

hi

[hearty rover]

Im trying to learn python and i got stuck on something simple... can you maybe help me really quick?

[delicate wren]

what is the issue?

[delicate wren]

rollup is a bundler and -linux-x64-musl is a build target

[hearty rover]

Im trying to make this program and i cant figure out how to, i have this
code:
name = 'World'
line = ''
for char in name:
line = line + char
print(line)

Using the website futurecoder.io if you know it

[delicate wren]

musl being there is one of potential issues

[delicate wren]

so it prints only the last thing?

!e

name = 'World'
line = ''
for char in name:
    line = line + char
    print(line)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | W
002 | Wo
003 | Wor
004 | Worl
005 | World

[delicate wren]

or was it a screenshot from somewhere else

[hearty rover]

i meant i need to add "-" as the number of characters at the bottom

lets say it says World so its 5, i need 5 times -

[delicate wren]

do you how to get the length of the string?

[hearty rover]

Not yet

[delicate wren]

!d len

[coarse hearth]

len

len(s)```
Return the length (the number of items) of an object. The argument may be a sequence (such as a string, bytes, tuple, list, or range) or a collection (such as a dictionary, set, or frozen set).

**CPython implementation detail:** `len` raises [`OverflowError`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#OverflowError) on lengths larger than [`sys.maxsize`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/sys.html#sys.maxsize), such as [`range(2 ** 100)`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#range).

[edgy chasm]

!e

name = "World"
line = ''
for char in name:
  line += char
  print(line)
print("-"*len(name))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | W
002 | Wo
003 | Wor
004 | Worl
005 | World
006 | -----

[delicate wren]

as for repeating the same character c n times there is multiplication via *

(as shown above)

[delicate wren]

space around *

[hearty rover]

Thank you all!

[delicate wren]

(pep8)

[edgy chasm]

its not world ending

[hearty rover]

https://tenor.com/view/no-oh-youre-the-best-gif-12989609

[edgy chasm]

!e

name = "World"
print(f"{name}\n{"-" * len(name)}")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | World
002 | -----

[edgy chasm]

cool

[delicate wren]

!e

name = "World"
print(f"{name}\n{'':->{len(name)}}")

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | World
002 | -----

[delicate wren]

lol

value:fill_character>length

[edgy chasm]

wait hwat

[hearty heath]

It's like how two different computer programs talk to each other. In this case, you want your program to talk to windows to tell it to change the desktop background.

[buoyant dagger]

1050 for initial setup only, why?

[sly pond]

I imagine because they will upgrade later, but getting it up and running is more important than having it running as fast as it ever will

the 1050 ti is a bit dated

[buoyant dagger]

Old for a simple setup? You kidding?

[sly pond]

Depends on the needs

[buoyant dagger]

😅

You don't need 1050 for that

[sly pond]

For what?

[delicate wren]

there is no integrated GPU

(and I don't really need a GPU for that thing; so, if after everything is set up it can boot without it, then why not take it out)

[wicked flicker]

Hello there

I can't wait to speak with you guys on VC

I'm not yet allowed though

I bought a Python course on Udemy

Watching it through

I know

But I need tutoring

[proper ridge]

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/6-0001-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-in-python-fall-2016/

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/6-0002-introduction-to-computational-thinking-and-data-science-fall-2016/

[wicked flicker]

Well, it was on a discount

[turbid silo]

hey thanks for sharing

[proper ridge]

My pleasure.

There's also some really really good books on these.

[wicked flicker]

Thanks for sharing

[turbid silo]

does anyone as has any opinion on this ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1dejvr0/mixture_of_agents_can_beat_gpt4o/

[delicate wren]

there was SICP somewhere on the stream lol

I should finish reading that at some point

> at a lower cost
seems like that is the main point there

@proper ridge yes, one of the courses

Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

[wicked flicker]

I just saw a junior/mid Python programer job, and it's salary is around 999-2783 € after taxes

[turbid silo]

hey the other day
I setup a master llm on my laptop and slave ai agent on my frnds laptop
and then I let them talk to each other over the internet
it was watching then solve sorting algorithms...
@proper ridge

[delicate wren]

(I wasn't hallucinating)

[wicked flicker]

My goal is to learn coding to get a well paid job, so I can get a loan to buy myself a house

[delicate wren]

I don't remember if they've re-made it for some other language

as in not Scheme

(tbf Scheme is kind of central to that, so would be unlikely)

[turbid silo]

does anyone has done anything similar to this?

[wicked flicker]

You mean like a Python CSS course?

How do I paste my code into the chat?

[coarse hearth]

System Python

Why Avoid System Python for Development on Unix-like Systems:

• Critical Operating System Dependencies: Altering the system Python installation may harm internal operating system dependencies.
• Stability and Security Concerns: System interpreters lag behind current releases, lacking the latest features and security patches.
• Limited Package Control: External package management restricts control over versions, leading to compatibility issues with outdated packages.

Recommended Approach:

• Install Independent Interpreter: Install Python from source or utilize a virtual environment for flexibility and control.
• Utilize Pyenv or Similar Tools: Manage multiple Python versions and create isolated development environments for smoother workflows.

[wicked flicker]

Like this example

[proper ridge]

!paste

[coarse hearth]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[proper ridge]

!code

[coarse hearth]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[delicate wren]

!code

[wicked flicker]

!e print('Hello, World!')

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello, World!

[stuck bluff]

@lusty hull 👋

[proper ridge]

Sertraline

Zoloft

[wicked flicker]

!code

py print('Hello, World!')

[delicate wren]

newline right after py

first line must be exactly this for it to work:
```py

[wicked flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-bacon-bye-bacon-bacon-elias-harger-max-fuller-gif-15142867

[delicate wren]

still missing newline right after py

that was because of extra space

discord wants exactly ```py<newline>

idk why

this works:
```py
print()
```

this doesn't work:
```py print()
```

this doesn't work:
```py
print()
```

[wicked flicker]

name = 'Dominykas G'
age = 29
is_registered = True
print(name)
print(age)
print(is_registered)

[stuck bluff]

@tame leaf

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-racoon-sad-gif-7373600486630252615

[proper ridge]

God those are soo cute.

I cried watching this movie man.

[fair heron]

@proper ridge did @\Vanity answer the questiong correctly?

[proper ridge]

The MPO one?

[fair heron]

yes

[proper ridge]

Nooohhh hehehe

[fair heron]

seems legitr

[hearty heath]

Waterthing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lTYPvArbGo

[stuck bluff]

Yaaas.

@graceful burrow 👋

[fair heron]

is thi sstill required as llama3 for Lexi?

<|begin_of_text|><|start_header_id|>system<|end_header_id|>
You are an AI assistant designed to assist mortgage brokers by answering their questions and providing essential information efficiently and securely. Your responses should be informative, non-biased, and maintain a positive tone. Where necessary, ask for clarifications to ensure accurate assistance.
<|eot_id|>

<|start_header_id|>user<|end_header_id|>
Using the context below, answer the question in <QSTN></QSTN> tag.

Context: 
... (long context with chunks retreived via rag)

<QSTN>Does ING support foreign income?</QSTN>

<|eot_id|>
<|start_header_id|>assistant<|end_header_id|>

@proper ridge

[proper ridge]

You should use COSTAR prompting structure. Maybe it'll work better?

[fair heron]

demo

[hearty heath]

"Woke" originates from AAVE I think yeah

[fair heron]

this @proper ridge ?

[proper ridge]

Yeah

[hearty heath]

The phrase stay woke has been present in AAVE since the 1930s. In some contexts, it referred to an awareness of social and political issues affecting African Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

[proper ridge]

It's an interesting framework. Although, the issue seems to be it repeating its prompt, I'll have to look at your code again to see why it's happening.

[fair heron]

the model was found here

[stuck bluff]

@jagged raft 👋

[hearty heath]

Give me your money and I will safely dispose of it for you

[delicate wren]

@tame leaf
would non-fungible humans be fungi resistant

most uses of NFTs I've seen claimed are themselves worse than not using NFTs for the same thing

NFTs as replacement for tickets, for example

that serves only a singular purpose: move money from users to speculators

[stuck bluff]

@elfin saffron 👋

[delicate wren]

plural

archaic feminine plural

it actually has somewhat ambiguous semantics, region-dependent

how about Chapayev game but with chess pieces

another good version of chess

[stuck bluff]

@devout elk 👋

[devout elk]

hi

[delicate wren]

basically it initially emerged as synonym to just plural, but then ended up drifting into random directions away from regular meaning

[buoyant dagger]

Fair enough

[north locust]

yum yum

[odd talon]

We live in a society.

[north locust]

luxembourg is very rich nation

[odd talon]

Where Iran

[north locust]

It was this

[odd talon]

I see resource rich and not economical GDP rich

[north locust]

which is what he meant

by "fifth richest"

[odd talon]

I just heard rich and assumed the usual term for "rich"

[north locust]

lol

America best country

https://tenor.com/view/kilometers-can't-measure-freedom-freedom-usa-america-murica-gif-8776986503198367525

[odd talon]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[odd talon]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1198970/I_Am_Jesus_Christ/

Steam

I Am Jesus Christ

Go back in time over 2,000 years and follow the same path as Jesus Christ, from his baptism to the resurrection. Inspired by the New Testament stories, ‘I Am Jesus Christ’ is a simulation like no other.Are you prepared to fight with Satan in the desert, cure the sick and help the needy? Perform over 30 iconic miracles from the feeding of the 5,0...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

But what about this game

[wicked flicker]

What's up folks?

[wicked flicker]

I've been practicing control flow right now

[umbral rose]

Nice! Are you feeling loopy yet?

[wicked flicker]

A little bit 😄

With all those else, if, elif statements

[thin lintel]

Antioxidants like beta carotene help reduce or prevent oxidative stress in the body. Plenty of research shows that diets rich in antioxidants can boost health. By reducing oxidative stress in the body, antioxidants may help protect against conditions such as: certain cancers.

[buoyant dagger]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1264390/Dreamjob_Programmer_Simulator__Learn_Programming_Games/

Steam

Dreamjob: Programmer Simulator - Learn Programming Games

Dreamjob: Programmer is a super easy and fun way to get you started with programming. With hundreds of missions, each one carefully adjusted to your level of expertise with coding, you will get into the shoes of a real programmer! Soon you will know how to create and monetize enough assets to buy a home, an exclusive yacht, or even a private isl...

Release Date

To be announced

▶ Play video

[mild flume]

https://bitburner-official.github.io/

[hearty heath]

Ah I think there's a name for this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

@buoyant dagger

[proper ridge]

Nature will always take the path of least action...

Being happy or sad is an excited state, being ok is the ground state. It's only natural we go towards our groundstate slowly after every excitement.

[hearty heath]

I think it differs from person to person

[proper ridge]

Different systems, different environments, but they will all go to the ground state eventually.

[hearty heath]

@misty sinew you're really quiet

[mild flume]

!stream 327179626306863104

[coarse hearth]

✅ @tame leaf can now stream until <t:1718289326:f>.

[hearty heath]

[misty sinew]

yea my mic has health issues

[hearty heath]

Is your rabbit called Hemlock?

Majestic! 🐰

[stuck bluff]

@slow cargo 👋

[slow cargo]

hi

is the voice channel also broken for you guys?

[stuck bluff]

!voice

[coarse hearth]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[slow cargo]

no but like discord broken

its stuck on RTC connecting

[mild flume]

Might be a location thing

Thinking

Try refreshing the client

[proper ridge]

@tame leaf

@tame leaf

Guess what.

[hearty heath]

Ever heard of black pudding?

[proper ridge]

That sounds disgusting all of a sudden.

It's blood in the form of pudding?

Eww.

[mild flume]

Pudding isn't a dessert in this case

[hearty heath]

It's a sausage made from pigs blood (I think). It's actually quite nice though 😄 I think there's a similar thing in south-east asia.

[misty sinew]

ok ive fucked my mic

nothng is working

its on max volume in there

[proper ridge]

Beer sounds like that Viking in modern era

[buoyant dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-braveheart-yell-yelling-roar-gif-19285824

[mild flume]

!kindlings

[coarse hearth]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[hearty heath]

In the UK they have like pictures of smokers' lungs on the package

I got IDed today at the shop 😄

How'd you get ransomware on your phone?

[mild flume]

Makes you feel like an adult

[hearty heath]

Sorry, you're going to what? 🤨

[ornate knot]

hello hello

[proper ridge]

You think you can block my shtoyle?

You can't take my data haha.

zzzhhhh poooww kaaakhhh

[ashen willow]

from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
return str(a)

def split(c):
try:
b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
k = b[0]
j = b[1]
except:
k = 0
j = 0
return k, j

Flask constructor takes the name of

current module (name) as argument.

app = Flask(name)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
global info
info.append([])
playerindex += 1
players.append(message)
print(playerindex)
print(players)
return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
# [[to update],[index]]
global p2
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global info
info[message[1]] = message[0]
return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
players.pop(int(message))
playerindex -= 1

main driver function

if name == 'main':
app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")

[tame leaf]

like this 

[coarse hearth]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[hearty heath]

```py
like this
```

[ashen willow]

'''from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
return str(a)

def split(c):
try:
b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
k = b[0]
j = b[1]
except:
k = 0
j = 0
return k, j

Flask constructor takes the name of

current module (name) as argument.

app = Flask(name)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
global info
info.append([])
playerindex += 1
players.append(message)
print(playerindex)
print(players)
return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
# [[to update],[index]]
global p2
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global info
info[message[1]] = message[0]
return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
players.pop(int(message))
playerindex -= 1

main driver function

if name == 'main':
app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")'''

[hearty heath]

The ` key is usually above the tab key on your keyboard

[ashen willow]

^^^from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
return str(a)

def split(c):
try:
b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
k = b[0]
j = b[1]
except:
k = 0
j = 0
return k, j

Flask constructor takes the name of

current module (name) as argument.

app = Flask(name)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
global info
info.append([])
playerindex += 1
players.append(message)
print(playerindex)
print(players)
return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
# [[to update],[index]]
global p2
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global info
info[message[1]] = message[0]
return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
players.pop(int(message))
playerindex -= 1

main driver function

if name == 'main':
app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")^^^

°°°from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
return str(a)

def split(c):
try:
b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
k = b[0]
j = b[1]
except:
k = 0
j = 0
return k, j

Flask constructor takes the name of

current module (name) as argument.

app = Flask(name)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
global info
info.append([])
playerindex += 1
players.append(message)
print(playerindex)
print(players)
return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
# [[to update],[index]]
global p2
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global info
info[message[1]] = message[0]
return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
players.pop(int(message))
playerindex -= 1

main driver function

if name == 'main':
app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")°°°

[tame leaf]

```
```

[ashen willow]

```
from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
return str(a)

def split(c):
try:
b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
k = b[0]
j = b[1]
except:
k = 0
j = 0
return k, j

Flask constructor takes the name of

current module (name) as argument.

app = Flask(name)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
global info
info.append([])
playerindex += 1
players.append(message)
print(playerindex)
print(players)
return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
# [[to update],[index]]
global p2
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global info
info[message[1]] = message[0]
return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
data = request.get_json()
message = data.get("post")
global players
global playerindex
players.pop(int(message))
playerindex -= 1

main driver function

if name == 'main':
app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")
```

[hearty heath]

[ashen willow]

```
```

[tame leaf]

\

[ashen willow]

from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
    a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
    return str(a)


def split(c):
    try:
        b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
        k = b[0]
        j = b[1]
    except:
        k = 0
        j = 0
    return k, j

# Flask constructor takes the name of
# current module (__name__) as argument.
app = Flask(__name__)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
    data = request.get_json()
    message = data.get("post")
    global players
    global playerindex
    global info
    info.append([])
    playerindex += 1
    players.append(message)
    print(playerindex)
    print(players)
    return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
    # [[to update],[index]]
    global p2
    data = request.get_json()
    message = data.get("post")
    global info
    info[message[1]] = message[0]
    return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
    data = request.get_json()
    message = data.get("post")
    global players
    global playerindex
    players.pop(int(message))
    playerindex -= 1

# main driver function
if __name__ == '__main__':
    app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")

''' py

[ashen willow]

'''py

from flask import Flask, request

def combine(x: int, y: int) -> str:
    a = str(f"{x:0>4}{y:0>4}")
    return str(a)


def split(c):
    try:
        b = int(c[0:4]), int(c[4:8])
        k = b[0]
        j = b[1]
    except:
        k = 0
        j = 0
    return k, j

# Flask constructor takes the name of
# current module (__name__) as argument.
app = Flask(__name__)
players = []
playerindex = -1
info = []

@app.route("/connect" , methods=["Post"])
def connect():
    data = request.get_json()
    message = data.get("post")
    global players
    global playerindex
    global info
    info.append([])
    playerindex += 1
    players.append(message)
    print(playerindex)
    print(players)
    return str(playerindex)

@app.route("/update" , methods=["Post"])
def update():
    # [[to update],[index]]
    global p2
    data = request.get_json()
    message = data.get("post")
    global info
    info[message[1]] = message[0]
    return info

@app.route("/leaveing" , methods=["Post"])
def leaveing():
    data = request.get_json()
    message = data.get("post")
    global players
    global playerindex
    players.pop(int(message))
    playerindex -= 1

# main driver function
if __name__ == '__main__':
    app.run(host="0.0.0.0",port="5000")

import requests
from socket import getaddrinfo, gethostname

adresess = [i[4][0] for i in getaddrinfo(gethostname(), None)]
length = len(adresess)
print(length/2)
for i in range(0, int(length/2)):
    adresess[i] = 0
for i in adresess:
    adresess.remove(0)

realip = ""
name = input('What is your name: ')

#ip_address = input("Please write the local ip from host: ")
# find open ip
for ip_address in adresess:
    try:
        url = f"http://{ip_address}:5000"
        print(url)
        headers = {'Content-type': 'application/json', 'Accept': 'application/json'}
        latestResponseFromServer = 0
        latestResponseFromServerAsString = ""

        SendData = {"post": f"{name}"}

        latestResponseFromServer = requests.post(url + "/connect", json=SendData, headers=headers)
        latestResponseFromServerAsString = latestResponseFromServer.text
        index = int(latestResponseFromServerAsString)
        if index > -1:
            realip = ip_address
            break
    except Exception as E:
        print("no")

url = f"http://{realip}:5000"
headers = {'Content-type': 'application/json', 'Accept': 'application/json'}
count = 0

#start game
while True:
    latestResponseFromServer = 0
    latestResponseFromServerAsString = ""
    count += 1
    SendData = {"post": [[],index, count]}

    latestResponseFromServer = requests.post(url + "/update", json=SendData, headers=headers)
    latestResponseFromServerAsString = latestResponseFromServer.text
    print(latestResponseFromServerAsString)

[hearty heath]

Idk don't worry about it 😄

[mild flume]

I friggin' love that song

!paste

[coarse hearth]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[ashen willow]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ODSA

[delicate wren]

@mild flume "do you ever expect this to consume 100% of a CPU core constantly?"

#[async_std::main]
async fn main() -> async_tungstenite::tungstenite::Result<()> {
    let listener = async_std::net::TcpListener::bind("127.0.0.1:8080").await?;
    let (stream, _) = listener.accept().await?;
    async_tungstenite::accept_async(stream).await?;
    Ok(())
}

someone somewhere broke something

[mild flume]

Is the listener just polling constantly?

[delicate wren]

accept_async hangs

it wakes repeatedly

this breaks on async-std but not async-net version 2

it's websockets

[mild flume]

Ah right right

[delicate wren]

there is a nuance to how async-tungstenite polls the stream

which might be the issue

not sure

async-net version 1 works too

[mild flume]

Right which is what I was wondering. Whether it was because what you had there was using async_std vs async_net

Like does the std just not handle websockets well

[delicate wren]

I've opened an issue on async-tungstenite's repo 1) so that they know this happens 2) because I can't yet replicate it for async-std in isolation

[mild flume]

Makes the most sense

[hearty heath]

Same

[delicate wren]

also async-tungstenite targets async-std as its main compatibility thing

[mild flume]

Gotcha

[delicate wren]

(and whatever example there is to prove this happens will likely be simpler in that setting)

oh, and also all that happens only in --release

[hearty heath]

I feel like ADHD, Tourette's, and OCD are related in some way in the brain 🤔

[delicate wren]

which, I think, means it's some race condition

[mild flume]

That sounds likely

[delicate wren]

because another thing that makes it fail this way is:

async_std::task::spawn(futures_util::future::pending::<()>());

and "fix" sometimes is to slow down, add extra overhead, etc.

[mild flume]

Slightly reduced polling rate yeah

[delicate wren]

it seems to rely on something happening between two polls yet still busy-wakes

[hearty heath]

The internet? 😄

Back later 👋

[delicate wren]

I don't work on UIs apart from Web

[mild flume]

Fair

[proper ridge]

!e

binary = format(5, '05b')
print(binary)
print(reversed(binary))

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | 00101
002 | <reversed object at 0x7f93ceeeb580>

[terse sierra]

howdy doody

[delicate wren]

so, I guess, that means whatever I made is fast enough that it causes this bug to surface

[mild flume]

You're just that good

[delicate wren]

the thing is only a bit faster than a million messages per second

[terse sierra]

was that Ramstein lyrics ?

[thin lintel]

yes

[delicate wren]

3M is optimal (on my current hardware)

"optimal" being how much the underlying library's throughput is

[mild flume]

True. What're you creating?

[terse sierra]

little round managable poops

[mild flume]

It is convenient

Same with guinea pigs

[terse sierra]

did you tain for litter box

[tame leaf]

yes

[delicate wren]

thing to represent many websocket streams as one

depending on representation, either distributing outgoing messages or multicasting

[mild flume]

So it's meant to be stress testing

[terse sierra]

wild bunnys love dandelions

[delicate wren]

one of the implementations behaves somewhat cursed for whatever reason
1 stream: 2s
2 streams: 8s
3 streams: 64s

[delicate wren]

sounds worse than exponential

it used to be one of the fastest ones I had, idk what broke

exponential would be 32s

[terse sierra]

attack cats

[delicate wren]

oh, okay, so it was that same bug again

the thing is fine

[wicked flicker]

def output_welcome_text(first_name, 
                        last_name, 
                        age, 
                        location, 
                        returning_user=True):
    '''Output welcome text with users details'''
    if returning_user:
        msg_start = f'Welcome back {first_name} {last_name}!'
    else:
        msg_start = f'Welcome {first_name} {last_name}!'
    msg = f'{msg_start} You are {age} and from {location}.'
    print(msg)
    
    
    output_welcome_text(
        'Mark', 
        'W', 
        age=31, 
        location='London',
        )                       

[delicate wren]

indentation

last line seems too much inside

was this the intention?

def output_welcome_text(first_name, 
                        last_name, 
                        age, 
                        location, 
                        returning_user=True):
    '''Output welcome text with users details'''
    if returning_user:
        msg_start = f'Welcome back {first_name} {last_name}!'
    else:
        msg_start = f'Welcome {first_name} {last_name}!'
    msg = f'{msg_start} You are {age} and from {location}.'
    print(msg)
    

output_welcome_text(
    'Mark', 
    'W', 
    age=31, 
    location='London',
    )                       

otherwise it'd call itself repeatedly

[ashen willow]

def output_welcome_text(first_name, 
                        last_name, 
                        age, 
                        location, 
                        returning_user=True):
    '''Output welcome text with users details'''
    if returning_user:
        msg_start = f'Welcome back {first_name} {last_name}!'
    else:
        msg_start = f'Welcome {first_name} {last_name}!'
    msg = f'{msg_start} You are {age} and from {location}.'
    print(msg)
    
    
output_welcome_text(
        'Mark', 
        'W', 
        age=31, 
        location='London',
        )                       

[delicate wren]

select lines 15~20
shift+tab

call to the function should be outside the function itself in this case

[wicked flicker]

Thanks Alisa

It worked

[wispy estuary]

Hi

[tame leaf]

https://vxtwitter.com/Riva_k86/status/1800123346128163211

[solid fiber]

cute bunny

[odd talon]

!e

funny_nan = {
  int('1') : 'It found me',
  float('nan') : 'It found me',
}

print(funny_nan[int('1')])
print(funny_nan[float('nan')])

[coarse hearth]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | It found me
002 | Traceback (most recent call last):
003 |   File "/home/main.py", line 7, in <module>
004 |     print(funny_nan[float('nan')])
005 |           ~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
006 | KeyError: nan

[misty sinew]

hlo

[north locust]

[misty sinew]

is there anyone can help me to setup my java in vsc.
i watch so many video as well i tried many time but it could not be solve:(

[peak grove]

@thin lintel @stuck bluff Vc2?

or 1

[thin lintel]

not now, sorry, headache

[wintry sparrow]

Stop worrying about what other people have, unless you're going to help them

[hearty rover]

Hey guys how are you?
where is my mistake here? keep getting heads

import random
heads_or_tails = random.randint(0, 1)
if heads_or_tails == "0":
print("Tails")
else:
print("Heads")

[stuck bluff]

Strings are never equal to integers.

!e py print('0' == 0) print(0 == 0)

[coarse hearth]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | False
002 | True

[hearty rover]

Thank you!! 🙂

[stuck bluff]

I would also investigate the use of random.choice.

[hearty rover]

Oh yeah im sure there is much better alternatives
im just following the course for now

[willow girder]

hello guys

I have problem in importing file in python

[floral notch]

Python imports are a breeze for bingchat lol

[stuck bluff]

Howdy howdy.

Sorry, no Optal, here.

@wind ridge You've got a non-negligible amount of noise coming from your end.

[wind ridge]

sorry, a 3-d printer is running in the background

[misty sinew]

헿

헤헤ㅔㅎㅎㅎ

[wind ridge]

english please

[misty sinew]

저

한국인인데

koay

okay

sorry

[stuck bluff]

@misty sinew👋

[wind ridge]

how is evryone's day

[stuck bluff]

LX.

[stuck bluff]

Quieter than usual.

Which is good.

[north locust]

interesting call from my viewpoint

seems everyone is muted

[wind ridge]

there is much noise on the background

[stuck bluff]

Well, that's what happens when the Desktop app stops working and I have to use the web.

Which sounds crap, usually.

So I don't bother.

[wind ridge]

thats not so good

[stuck bluff]

I can type.

[north locust]

lol

so ig there is no need for me to join the call

[wind ridge]

there is no one talking atm

[wicked flicker]

Let's stay in voice chat, wait for more people to come

[wind ridge]

there is to much noise in the background so it's better for you to stay muted

in the settings?

notification?

is it only youtube or is it also insta, X (twitter) or facebook?

does it pup up in firefox or as a notification on hte pc even if firefox is not open?

I self don't use firefox

the pop out this video pop up?

[buoyant dagger]

I'm working on a new function for my Discord bot. Any thoughts?

    # Fetch the last message from the channel history if not already stored
    last_msg = last_user_message.get(message.channel.id)

    if not last_msg:
        try:
            async for msg in message.channel.history(limit=1, before=message):
                last_msg = msg
                last_user_message[message.channel.id] = msg
                print(f"Fetched LFG message for #{message.channel.name} (ID: {message.channel.id})")
                break  # Break out of the loop after fetching one message
        except discord.Forbidden:
            print(f"Error: Missing permissions to fetch message history in #{message.channel.name} (ID: {message.channel.id})")
        except discord.HTTPException as e:
            print(f"HTTP error while fetching message history: {e}")

    # If there is a stored message and it's from the same user, delete it
    if last_msg and last_msg.author.id == message.author.id and last_msg.id != message.id:
        try:
            await last_msg.delete()
        except discord.NotFound:
            pass  # If the message is already deleted or not found

    # Update the most recent message for this channel
    last_user_message[message.channel.id] = message```

[wind ridge]

your loggin messages?

[buoyant dagger]

Most recent message, yes

[wind ridge]

whats forbidden in the terms, if you log all messages not the latest

[buoyant dagger]

It won't allow same user send two messages after each other

[delicate wren]

do you have a lock that prevents concurrency issues

[buoyant dagger]

No

[delicate wren]

possible situation

msg 1 received, task 1 spawned
msg 2 received, task 2 spawned
task 1 sees no message stored
task 2 sees no message stored
task 2 stores the last message
task 1 stores the last message

[buoyant dagger]

True. You mean with like asyncio.Lock()?

[misty sinew]

korea`

is great

I am korean

oh~!!

[delicate wren]

also that is a very terrible idea, don't do this

[misty sinew]

?

[buoyant dagger]

It's for a LFG channel were I want to keep things clean. What's your solution?

[delicate wren]

user 1: asks a question
user 2: answers "yes"
user 1: asks a different question
user 2: answers "yes" again, and gets their message removed

[buoyant dagger]

So you mean based on message content

[delicate wren]

you need to prevent spam, not repetition

those are very different

[buoyant dagger]

user 1: i'm looking for a support
user 1: i'm looking adc <- user 1 is no longer looking for a support, delete previous message

[delicate wren]

there's at least three different classes of stuff you need to deal with:
burst spam of similar messages
burst spam of different messages
long-term spam of big same messages, possibly across multiple users

[wind ridge]

spam protection you mean

[delicate wren]

that is better implementable through dedicated commands

there's going to be some level of formalisation anyway if you're drying to dedup messages in any logical and not "just guessing" manner

[buoyant dagger]

Should I use the same lock for both on_message and on_message_delete? OR two different locks?

[delicate wren]

anything that accesses the same data in a way that's potentially conflicting

[proper ridge]

Greetings Alisa, didn't see you join. Apologies.

[buoyant dagger]

Makes sense

[delicate wren]

also for some actions, since it's asyncio and there is no need to keep real thread-safety, you can skip the lock

lock for consistency, no lock for availability

though in case for processing a sequence of messages, it probably makes more sense to just have a task per user-channel pair that pulls messages from a queue

(which is started on-demand)

or just have a singular task that handles all the messages and is the only task with access to the state

[wind ridge]

how many messages does it remember?

like if 2 poeple spam in the channel does it detecxt the spam?

[delicate wren]

rn trying to optimise some solutions to the game that was posted in #voice-chat-text-0

"Human Resource Machine"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/375820/Human_Resource_Machine/

for now levels are mostly just ASM-like stuff

5,74 in my case

Turing Complete is cheaper but is teaching a more low-level stuff

also waiting for any updates on the PR to futures-rs's will_wake test branch

there is a fix that might work currently (at least it works locally for me)

or in the case of futures-task specifically

almost everything that uses futures::task::{waker,waker_ref} is somewhat broken

since late February

and their CI has been broken since just after Rust 1.78 got released

[wind ridge]

which of the 2 do you prefer? human resource machine or turning compete

[delicate wren]

Turing Complete is more in-depth

and provides more options to build on top of what you've made previously

[wind ridge]

more proggramer side, and while true(?

no?

why

np

https://store.steampowered.com/app/619150/while_True_learn/

Steam

while True: learn()

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1724140/Craftomation_101_Programming__Craft/while True: learn() is a puzzle/simulation game about even more puzzling stuff: machine learning, neural networks, big data and AI. But most importantly, it’s about understanding your cat.In this game, you play as a coder who accidentally found out that their cat is e...

Price

$12.99

Recommendations

6007

Metacritic

73

▶ Play video

I'm young and want to learn programming in a good but stil fun way

I game to much

[delicate wren]

I haven't tried that one yet, but from what I see it's somewhat too high level, abstracting many details away

[wind ridge]

yeah, so for a proggramer based game you say turning complete

[delicate wren]

this dev has many good programming-related games too
https://store.steampowered.com/developer/zachtronics

I've only played TIS-100 for long enough so far

I can't type

it's near r

and dictionary doesn't catch the error because it's a valid word

[delicate wren]

SHENZHEN I/O is good too

[wind ridge]

I don't know any of the games, my parents are so bad, they don't let me buy one of the games mentioned earlier

[delicate wren]

a game that comes with a 47 page manual

one of the pages is styled to be a printed version of some 90s website lol

[wind ridge]

I see it but the only problem is that my parents say that I can't spend money on games

[wind ridge]

that's old

I wasn't even back tehn

[delicate wren]

8 a.m. during the winter might now have sun, but it's definitely late enough to be morning

[buoyant dagger]

It should only prevent the same user from sending consecutive messages. So it will always keep the last message for the specific channel. If the new message is from the same author, it should delete the previous message to leave only the most recent message. If two different users post messages one after another, that is fine, as long as the same user does not send two consecutive messages.

[delicate wren]

huh

[buoyant dagger]

This is why we only need to store the most recent message per channel

[delicate wren]

"forenoon" replaced it as "after sunrise before noon"

@crystal aurora I've only read the docs for Zig so far, haven't written any code myself

[wind ridge]

no no late acording to chatgpt

[stuck bluff]

@willow cedar 👋

[sly pond]

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/05/googles-ai-overview-can-give-false-misleading-and-dangerous-answers/

[delicate wren]

this is all very latitude- and timezone-dependent

[sly pond]

https://www.timeanddate.com/

[delicate wren]

for example, Spain where everything is offset by an hour compared to what it's supposed to be

[stuck bluff]

@delicate mango 👋

[proper ridge]

Someone hands a burger to Opal after Elon touched it.
Opal: "Ewww it's musky!"

[stuck bluff]

@lapis crest 👋

[sly pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogg2tx4MmkQ

[stuck bluff]

@exotic lava @sharp thunder @shell haven 👋

[buoyant dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ropn_kwpFDU

[stuck bluff]

@errant turtle 👋

[sly pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfp8a5Ocu5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMocgoeWzuQ

[wicked flicker]

https://www.udemy.com/share/103WwO3@xnj4OfwBKWtoCWmyEJ0pqsy35uIzpI7vyq74nMZUPMZL46LqclSPbby22r8aBomNfg==/

[mortal stone]

[]

'[]'

[wicked flicker]

{}

num1 = float(input("Enter first number: "))
op = input("Enter operator: ")
num2 = float(input("Enter second number: "))

if op == "+":
    print(num1 + num2)
elif op == "-":
    print(num1 - num2)
elif op == "/":
    print(num1 / num2)
elif op == "*":
    print(num1 * num2)
else:
    print("Invalid operator")

[mortal stone]

products =[ {'name'},
]

[wicked flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-pepe-burp-tired-lazy-gif-14755186883912796421

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-3252771952814323409

[proper ridge]

Yeah. This picture is really nice to have an idea of how quantum computing works in terms of the pipeline.

[obtuse valve]

quantum computer = rich man's GPU?????

[proper ridge]

I'm gonna hop off. Cya guys later.

[ashen willow]

for i in aplhabet: print("i - random.randrange(1,2)")

what is the output

[clear fox]

the is no f-string in the print statement

[delicate wren]

NameError

[sage mesa]

agree it should be with f

print(f" {str}")

and not

print(" {str}")

[stuck bluff]

@real mirage @halcyon lark @fiery sage 👋

[stuck bluff]

@rich veldt 👋

[fair heron]

@misty sinew here

[misty sinew]

Do you code discord bots?

[fair heron]

yes

[ivory sparrow]

!e
print(2 + 3 * 3)
print((2 + 3) * 3)

[misty sinew]

Vouch bot

/vouch (user) (reason) (stars 1-5)

[fair heron]

I don't understand, you want a command that takes 3 arguments, guild.member, string, and int?

[misty sinew]

A command that vouch a user

Ill show u

Like this @fair heron

[stuck bluff]

@open mantle 👋

[open mantle]

Hello 😃

[pseudo raven]

👋

[buoyant dagger]

What do you think of this idea?

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/DJLQ

[delicate wren]

not granular enough but fine for a prototype

it will fail if you have too many messages incoming

especially across many channels

[stuck bluff]

@gray swallow 👋

[misty sinew]

@fair heron

[fair heron]

hi

[misty sinew]

Hi

[fair heron]

hey

[misty sinew]

Can you do this?

@fair heron

[fair heron]

this?

[misty sinew]

Yes

[fair heron]

like this

[misty sinew]

Yea

Like that

[misty sinew]

.

[fair heron]

programically what should this do?

[misty sinew]

Can you code that

[fair heron]

your response is not an answer to the related question

please reply to this

[misty sinew]

Can you code a vouch bot

[misty sinew]

With these commands

[proper ridge]

Where did you go?