Anyone ever heard of micropython?
#voice-chat-text-1
arctic olive
Is it like python, but bit sized?
arctic olive
Ok...
delicate wren
Anyone ever heard of micropython?
it has built-in berkley db implementation, surprisingly
(or something like that)
delicate wren
https://docs.micropython.org/en/latest/library/btree.html
rugged veldt
aaahhh
elder wraith
delicate wren
@north shadow
these depending on the task
https://github.com/PyO3/pyo3
https://github.com/RustPython/RustPython
if it's a service, those should probably be two separate services, I guess
oh
it's an app
(hypothetically you can launch a subprocess if you can't get direct bindings working)
stuck bluff
@misty sinew 👋
delicate wren
"FSB"
rugged veldt
Anybody here into flipper zero?
delicate wren
seems like more general-purpose
(but does include some potentially less legal capabilities)
rugged veldt
they say you can write programs for it in c, micro python, and c#
jagged hawk
AF hows minesweeper btw
delicate wren
not much progress this season (peak was top 948)
was spending way less time on it
as for coop minesweeper remake, it's at 0 lines of code written so far
jagged hawk
that would be cool
misty sinew
<@456226577798135808> 👋
still muted
misty nymph
stuck bluff
!voice
coarse hearthBOT
rugged veldt
I need to get my msgs up
stuck bluff
The planet is your limpet.
mild flume
I'll be back on in a sec, I have to check on a copier
Because anything that puts toner on paper hates me
rugged veldt
haha
coarse hearthBOT
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | -2
002 | -2
003 | -2
what does this do?
hearty heath
Yes yes I totally understand what you're talking about 😄
Ah right
Mahjong seems pretty complicated 🤔
Oh right
Ah right yeah
delicate wren
I was a little surprised to find out it's free
https://www.jetbrains.com/mps/
it's Java specifically, yes
AST seems more useful to modify/analyse existing python code
not sure if it's useable for DSLs
hearty heath
Yeah, for that you'd probably want something like Lark.
delicate wren
disclaimer just overlays part of the site
hearty heath
I'm watching a video about the rules of mahjong 😄
I'm not getting it tbh
Oh yeah, that was the top-comment on the video lol
"POV: you're trying to get 100% completion in yakuza"
The tiles look kind of edible, like blocks of fudge or something
delicate wren
I'd probably just describe the rules using classes
(and mostly in declarative way rather than imperative)
maybe add priorities to rules or something like that
not necessarily numerical
delicate wren
accidental speedrunning in minesweeper
(100 beginner games)
where are you running python?
on the server?
you're probably looking for RPC if you want "function calls"
FastAPI good
Flask is worse for large application
far worse
hearty heath
Ah Hemlock just left I think
delicate wren
Flask is worse for large application
it's not async
that's quite an important factor
GPT is not a tutor in any way
that's like
the opposite
it's irresponsible
and dumb
weight != mass
there's, like, too much nuance to phrase that riddle correctly
misty sinew
delicate wren
it's probably overinferring the context to be about 1kg vs 1kg
delicate wren
Haskell looks like magic sometimes
Haskell doesn't like mutability or side effects
delicate wren
Haskell looks like magic sometimes
syntax like that
f Just x = ...
f Nothing = ...
Haskell actually tries to avoid referencing that "whole machine" object
misty sinew
Monad
delicate wren
that sounds like trolling
misty sinew
wise depot
"simple"
delicate wren
that sounds like trolling
> read C.T. definition instead
> C.T. definition: monad is a monoid in the category of endofunctors
guess what is a monoid?
it's not a monoid
delicate wren
in Haskell morphisms would usually be functions and objects would usually be types
you can define monads on higher-level objects (e.g. functors)
but I'm not sure Haskell allows that
probably doesn't
I mean
generics over Functors
delicate wren
in Haskell morphisms would usually be functions and objects would usually be typ...
Haskell does have other categories
(... for example, Functors)
classes are like categories in Haskell
delicate wren
generics over Functors
it is possible both in Haskell and in Rust
but
Rust has at least three different primitive categories
delicate wren
guess what is a monoid?
it's not a monoid
and category theory analogue for algebraic monoid is called monoidal category, not monoid
"get confused"
misty sinew
=> The natural numbers and + are a monoid
delicate wren
Rust has at least three different primitive categories
(corresponding morphisms)
FnOnce(A) -> B
Clone + Fn(A: Clone) -> B: Clone
Copy + Fn(A: Copy) -> B: Copy
I pretend FnMut doesn't exist
"if computer complains about your maths proof, your proof might have some issues"
yolo-oriented programming
misty sinew
Prolog
delicate wren
yolo-oriented programming
wget http://.../install.sh && chmod +x ./install.sh && yes | sudo ./install.sh
http instead of https to complete the joke
I should
implement Monad for stackless evaluation
enum Stackless<T> {
Done(T),
Pending(Box<dyn FnOnce() -> Stackless<T>>),
}
Rust
I have a similar thing in Python
dynamic dispatch
in more pythonic description (if only python allowed enums or generic type aliases)
Stackless[T] = (Literal['Done'], T) | (Literal['Pending'], Callable[[], Stackless[T]])
you just call on Pending until you get Done
3.12?
delicate wren
I have a similar thing in Python
I had to do that because I was making a parser
for quite large files
and I was kind of too lazy to rewrite recursive code with a proper data structure
no mutable stuff, perfect loop
while True:
pass
def f(): f()
or in Rust:
loop {}
there is some very long one
misty sinew
oh, it refuses
spaces doesn't work
doesn't C require main?
depends on flags yes
one of IOCCCs was won by an empty C file
and compiler flags
delicate wren
```rust
enum Stackless<T> {
Done(T),
Pending(Box<dyn FnOnce() -> Stackle...
that model was wrong
I'm slowly starting to realise how much difficult the thing I'm trying to do actually is
error! returns ! probably
(Infallible)
or never
delicate wren
I'm slowly starting to realise how much difficult the thing I'm trying to do act...
I need a deque which looks something like
[FnOnce(A) -> B, FnOnce(B) -> C, ..., FnOnce(Y) -> Z]
it is common on Rust discord
delicate wren
I need a deque which looks something like
```rust
[FnOnce(A) -> B, FnOnce(B) -> ...
would probably have to use trees
"leak memory properly"
https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/boxed/struct.Box.html#method.leak
north shadow
fresh sky
drifting nimbus
nice
livid juniper
lilac wedge
yeah
twilit moss
tacit jetty
delicate wren
reading through this
https://learnyousomeerlang.com/
rustic turtle
did you guys know this?
In recent years, there has been a movement to change the name of the default Git branch from "master" to "main" or another more neutral term. This is because the term "master" has been criticized as being insensitive to the history of slavery and oppressive power dynamics.
That being said, there is no technical reason why you cannot use either "master" or "main" as your default branch. It's largely a matter of personal preference and cultural sensitivity.
If you decide to switch to "main" as your default branch, here's how you can do it:
Create a new branch called "main" based on your current "master" branch: git branch main master.
Switch to the "main" branch: git checkout main.
Push the "main" branch to the remote repository: git push -u origin main.
On GitHub or other Git hosting service, change the default branch for the repository to "main".
Delete the "master" branch: git branch -d master.
Note that if you have any integrations or scripts that rely on the "master" branch name, you may need to update them accordingly.
very interesting
I was like... why use main or master.. lol
yah totally not a big deal at all, just interesting
parent child in my house is master/slave LOL
jp
oh man that is the truth.. I am the slave aren't I LOL
perhaps bad terminology
I don't use words like that around the little ones fyi
delicate wren
```
In recent years, there has been a movement to change the name of the default...
this is a little bit of bs but, eh, no much really wrong with changing it
rustic turtle
I've been exploring the wonderful world of git via wsl
I cleared all the old garbage out of my github, prettied it up a bit and now I'm happily pushing commits directly from wsl 🙂
I'm gearing up to be able to work with people who have actually coded in groups, its all new to me and we have SVN in place now I think?
SVL ? ....
like git but old school
no it is SVN
delicate wren
SVL ? ....
subversion
rustic turtle
they're all PLC and FB and mySQL
and SVN for version control
although frankly, they're not terribly excellent with that
I should go to bed its too late.
talk to you fine individuals on another day
stuck bluff
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GlobalInterpreterLock @candid garnet
ashen harness
Hello
i
need
to send
50
messages so i can
talk to ppl
😦
its so weird
when
ppl are talking
and i cant talk to
them
lmao
verbal coral
lmao
thats just something they implemented to prevent abuse in the vc I think
everyone has to meet the requirements if I recall correctly idk
quaint cape
lol
same
here
I can't
talk
on
voice
chat
but
anyways
how's
everyones
day?
stuck bluff
@quaint cape @floral lagoon I've watched people have to wait for two weeks because of trying to do it that way.
You do you, though.
coarse hearthBOT
:ok_hand: applied timeout to @floral lagoon until <t:1680858346:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam – sent 8 messages).
The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
stuck bluff
Let it not be said I didn't warn you.
floral lagoon
Let it not be said I didn't warn you.
i didnt realise i would get muted lul i only did it cause they were doing it i was verfied for vc a while ago
twin pelican
who came up with 50 message for speaking permission?
like why not 49
or 51
so basically I need 47 now right?
ops it got to 46
may I continue to 0?
is it against the rules that I'm doing this?
by the way it's 43
stuck bluff
@late raptor@misty sinew👋
stuck bluff
!voice
coarse hearthBOT
misty sinew
!voice
coarse hearthBOT
misty sinew
<@409668765727457290><@456226577798135808>👋
hii
bro the system is so bad
why i need 50 msg to tallk
we are free
stuck bluff
Alas, it's something that became necessary on account of voice trolls who would come in and scream.
misty sinew
freedom
misty sinew
Alas, it's something that became necessary on account of voice trolls who would ...
yes your true
🙂 thers another sulotions
anyway i hope i get the acces soon as possible
stuck bluff
Yes. There are solutions. This is a speedbump, not a brick wall.
stuck bluff
This system requires that people engage in some social investment and have a measure of patience. This is something that is generally repulsive to the sorts of people who come in here to scream and make arseholes of themselves.
Having voice trolls come in every ten minutes is not pleasant and this system puts a stop to 99% of it.
While still allowing people in.
It means that you can't just do all 50 messages in 10 minutes.
Or less.
There has to be three ten minute windows in which there is activity and a total of 50 messages over those three periods and possibly beyond.
My suggestion is that you don't try to race toward it. Just slow down, smell the flowers, chat casually with people and enjoy yourself.
It will happen on its own, organically.
rotund shadow
hello sohaib
paper phoenix
Hiii @mild flume 
quaint cape
<@266030641382948865> <@864568638898700308> I've watched people have to wait for...
i was already verified yesterday
ornate moon
Morocco
light blaze
stuck bluff
@light blaze Perhaps your server needs to respond differently. Web browsers typically expect to be served up webpages.
I would talk to #web-development, because they'll be more practiced at doing this stuff.
Well, help post, then.
The one time I wrote anything webservery, it was a Frankenstein's monster.
gaunt falcon
@misty sinew good?? hbu
stuck bluff
@wanton flume Could you please say that again?
wanton flume
Hello Jay,
I hope this email finds you well. I am a big fan of your work and I admire your mission to spread wisdom and positivity to the world.
I am writing to offer you my thumbnail design services for your YouTube channel. I am Milki Wasihun, a professional thumbnail designer and the founder of Oropyt, a creative agency that specializes in YouTube optimization.
I can work with various niches, such as personal development, health, and spirituality. I have noticed that you don’t change your thumbnails very often and I think I can help you attract more viewers with some eye-catching and engaging designs. I can also help you test different thumbnails and see which ones perform better.
I would love to work with you and help you grow your audience and impact. If you are interested, I can offer you a special deal: I will change 10 thumbnails for you every month for 50% off!
This is a limited time offer, so don’t miss this opportunity. If you want to see some samples of my previous work and my portfolio, please let me know and I will send them to you.
If you prefer, we can also hop on a voice call and discuss your needs and preferences in more detail. Just let me know what time works best for you and I will be happy to talk to you.
Thank you for your time and attention. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely, Milki Wasihun
stuck bluff
Your microphone is at decent volume, you don't have any noise, your audio is a little bit muffled when you speak, but the main issue is not all of the audio seems to be coming through.
wanton flume
looks like a scam?
which ones should i change exactly
misty sinew
<@456226577798135808> good?? hbu
great tnx for asking
stuck bluff
Well, I can hear you fine, so. One sec.
You look like you're writing at a level where I'm not going to be able to tell you anything you don't already know.
Why wouldn't a company want people?
People mean opportunity.
What about up?
Yeees?
I am.
@unique raptor
No it is not.
Took you long enough.
I only go out for medical reasons.
I don't discuss that.
What percentage of the year needs to be completed before it's "almost the next year"?
What percentage?
Or number of months.
So....January, February, March, April...so three and change.
Three and change out of twelve months, Kemal.
Ta ta.
Hey hi.
@barren steppe 👋
Which word?
Ah, yes.
It's a Britishism.
One ta is thanks.
Spoken.
That's right.
@misty sinew👋
@cursive pier👋
cursive pier
<@820606662406045717>👋
?
stuck bluff
My message was intended as greeting.
stuck bluff
I can speak, but the rain might have caused my internet to be a bit shitty. I can hear people fine, but other people were complaining, so I'm just listening and typing.
The voice verification command needs to be performed in the voice verification channel.
It will tell you that you haven't met the requirements.
@supple orbit👋
cursive pier
The voice verification command needs to be performed in the voice verification c...
i need to be at least 3 days
right
ty for the help
appreciate it
stuck bluff
Yo, 80.
Yahoy.
Mic check successful, 8080.
@pseudo raven
@ivory rampartHey hi. You're really noisy.
@wheat raven👋
There was something familiar about the noise pattern, though.
@pseudo raven If you get disappeared, I'll be sad.
I've not been talking because the rain might have fucked things up. People were complaining.
So I'm just listening.
and typing
@dire cave👋
"How do I shot web?"
@night quarry👋
dire cave
hey
ivory rampart
Sorry
stuck bluff
@candid wolf👋
80, I'm always genuinely surprised you don't already have one.
There is an alternative to fracking on people's land.
Eminent domain.
Then it's not happening on their land.
Yes, I'm being facetious.
Oh, what, fracking reduced the value of your property? So sad.
gaunt falcon
anyone intersted in clash of codes
stuck bluff
I am pleased.
stuck bluff
Cooking.
stuck bluff
Risotto.
gaunt falcon
i have heard of it
don't get offened
is it mashed rice
and seasoned to perfection
stuck bluff
Not mashed, no.
gaunt falcon
why
stuck bluff
Not that I make a habit of watching Masterchef.
gaunt falcon
people have it before death
stuck bluff
Because it trips up a lot of the contestants.
gaunt falcon
They call it The Death Dish, here.
why
stuck bluff
It takes a practiced hand to do it well.
There's a fine line between soggy and chalky.
gaunt falcon
ok so you get that fine line
stuck bluff
But you can still have it soupy without being soggy.
stuck bluff
Depending on the region of Italy you're in, you may or may not want it soupy.
gaunt falcon
i wnat to have it
stuck bluff
It won't be anything special to look at.
gaunt falcon
i will take a print out on edible paper and then have it
stuck bluff
I don't claim mastery of the dish, but I can do it a way I enjoy.
stuck bluff
@rancid moth 👋
rancid moth
Ok
verbal hazel
OK
coarse hearthBOT
delicate wren
I'll be back in a couple of minutes
(need to stare into the abyss of fractals for some time)
azure knoll
whats im doing ?????????
dude explain me whats you ant exaclty ?
i swear my god im not trolling
dude
just explain me whats your proplem is ? @crystal aurora
just type your proplem
thats is it
i dont understand english man
then i can copy your proplem and i will go to google traduction
peak frigate
is everything fine here?
feel free to submit a @crisp hazel report with more context
azure knoll
is everything fine here?
idk whats happends with this guy
they want mute me for no reseon
there a staff here explain your proplem ! @crystal aurora
jaunty trench
is it just me or is gofek's voice robot-like
azure knoll
just tell me mute yourself thats is it
delicate wren
@crystal aurora a |= b for dictionaries shows more serious differences
(because it shows how it's not a = a | b)
delicate wren
solving this
https://www.codewars.com/kata/5a331ea7ee1aae8f24000175/train/python
I made an O(NlogN) solution
now I'll try to make it O(N)
ChatGPT is very good at proving wrong statements.
delicate wren
!e
def iadd(a, b):
a += b
example = 0
iadd(example, 1)
print(example)
example = [0]
iadd(example, [1])
print(example)
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 0
002 | [0, 1]
every Python object is passed "by reference" in C context and "by value" in Python context
__iadd__ for list/dict returns self
misty sinew
!e
```py
def iadd(a, b):
a += b
example = 0
iadd(example, 1)
print(example)
...
was that the answer
or is that for something else
delicate wren
`__iadd__` for `list`/`dict` returns `self`
and mutates the value
plush shadow
lol
delicate wren
or is that for something else
something else
misty sinew
oh ok
delicate wren
how do i convert a string to an operator
"+" -> operator.add?
there are two things that are usually correlated for __iadd__
mutability and returning self
yeah, it's quite good at lying about programming concepts
delicate wren
it wasn't python syntax
misty sinew
oh
plush shadow
that sounded like chat gtp
delicate wren
!e
def iadd(a, b):
a += b
class C:
def __init__(self, x):
self.x = x
def __repr__(self):
return f'C({self.x})'
def __iadd__(self, other):
self.x += other
return self
class D:
def __init__(self, x):
self.x = x
def __repr__(self):
return f'D({self.x})'
def __iadd__(self, other):
return D(self.x + other)
example = C(0)
iadd(example, 1)
print(example)
example = D(0)
iadd(example, 1)
print(example)
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | C(1)
002 | D(0)
@candid garnet
delicate wren
!e
```py
def iadd(a, b):
a += b
class C:
def __init__(self, x):
...
the whole difference is __iadd__ implementation
fuck ChatGPT. no one cares what it says.
think for your fucking self.
plush shadow
oh wow.... wtf i just learned something
misty sinew
`{"+": operator.add}`
thanks but how do i use it
delicate wren
there is no concept in python of "passing by reference vs passing by value"
delicate wren
!e
```py
def iadd(a, b):
a += b
class C:
def __init__(self, x):
...
@candid garnet look there.
plush shadow
I'm relatively new to programming, and went briefly into memory efficiency, but never really seen an application appear like that. So kinda wild
delicate wren
the difference is only whether or not __iadd__ mutates the object
object can be mutable in both cases
for immutable objects, __iadd__ can't be mutating
for mutable objects, it is not guaranteed to be mutating
delicate wren
for mutable objects, it is not guaranteed to be mutating
class CustomList(list):
def __iadd__(self, other):
return self.__add__(other)
just to display it
!e
class C:
def __repr__(self):
return 'C()'
print(C())
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
C()
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
<__main__.C object at 0x7fe65d828110>
this is not recursive
a += b
a = a.__iadd__(b)
!d operator.iadd
coarse hearthBOT
delicate wren
@crystal aurora could you repeat?
I'd probably look into how TikZ does geometry in PDFs
(although it lives several layers of abstraction above PDF itself)
some suggest this
https://xournalpp.github.io/
it's GPL 2
I completed the kata
(no spoilers because it's quite good and other people should attempt it)
there exists such thing as a selection bias.
weaker in what sense
I know what's more powerful than C++
C
even in C you can "pass by value" but still have the structure mutated
because it may have pointers
coarse hearthBOT
@candid garnet :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 1 ['a', 'b']
002 | 1 ['a', 'b']
basically just brute-forced the solution without much thinking
!e
from os import urandom
s = urandom(32).hex()
print(id(s))
s += "a"
print(id(s))
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
001 | 140333271212848
002 | 140333271212720
I forgot how to do that
coarse hearthBOT
@candid garnet :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1 ['a']
sometimes ids are the same
sometimes
because
strings are mutable
if there is only one reference
delicate wren
this shatters any idea of trying to apply principles of mutability/"passing by reference" to __iadd__ behaviour
if you want something that has strict += semantics, use Rust
delicate wren
if you want something that has strict `+=` semantics, use Rust
which requires owning being able to mutate the value
!e
def real_pass_by_reference(__reference, __locals):
__locals[__reference] += 1
example = 0
real_pass_by_reference("example", locals())
print(example)
@delicate wren :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.
1
idk how to make it better
@pastel rapids colab is free with limitations
I just use JupyterHub
(self-hosted)
apache httpd?
Rust broke everything
who the hell now knows what's low-level, what's high-level when it exists
interesting type signature, tbh
https://www.codewars.com/kata/54e6533c92449cc251001667/train/rust
delicate wren
interesting type signature, tbh
https://www.codewars.com/kata/54e6533c92449cc251...
T is not Copy/Clone
@pastel rapids the whole point of colab is the VM that you can access from anywhere
if you want something similar locally, you'd probably use JupyterLab
jaunty mauve
i am trying to make a subprogram which loops through an array
to try and find the corresponding grade
But i cant seem to find what my error is
it would be great if someone could help
fair heron
sup
delicate wren
["A", 83]
it throws an error because you compare 50 to "83" instead of 83
also, you don't need range
you can do
for grade_letter, grade_score in grades:
if user_in >= grade_score:
return grade_letter
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The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.
peak frigate
!tvmute 473940630716940299 2w don't spam to get voice verified, as the guidelines clearly state.
coarse hearthBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied voice mute to @misty sinew until <t:1682470090:f> (14 days).
topaz fractal
Why I cant speak in the voice chat?
delicate wren
!voice
coarse hearthBOT
topaz fractal
Do you know why my nickname is 'Dobro Opt'?
topaz fractal
Do you know why my nickname is 'Dobro Opt'?
It is because 'Dobro' in Russian Language means 'goodless'
delicate wren
did you mean "goodness"?
topaz fractal
did you mean "goodness"?
yes
coarse hearthBOT
untold plank
discord being discord
@delicate wren i want to connect domain can you help me out to web site
delicate wren
DNS configuration?
delicate wren
that usually depends on the specific registry you use
untold plank
i will share the screen
delicate wren
can we make a private call
no
untold plank
ok
delicate wren
that usually depends on the specific registry you use
usually there are per-domain settings on the provider's site
untold plank
that usually depends on the specific registry you use
i get confuse in that lot
yes
delicate wren
you would probably need A record if you have IPv4
if you use something like AWS, there might be simpler options
untold plank
If you already own a domain, please make these 2 changes in your DNS settings (should be found on your registrar's account):
Add an empty (@) A record with the value 34.96.116.138 (delete any other A records you have)
Add a 'www' CNAME with the value of im-router-service.com (without the http:// prefix)
If you are still not sure what to do you can just forward this email to your domain registrar and ask them to make the changes for you.
If you have any questions or need assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us by with your domain name, and 'Editor URL' (copy the URL from address bar while in the editor).
i have to do this
i have go daddy domain
i have domain name
delicate wren
you have IP already, right?
delicate wren
of that form, yes
untold plank
if i able to share screen then we can do it easly
delicate wren
there are two different types of a record
untold plank
i see some video on that but it didn't work
delicate wren
there are two different types of a record
(mentioned there)
A and CNAME
A is domain -> IP
CNAME is domain -> domain
stuck bluff
@runic knoll Come test here?
runic knoll
how to test it here?
stuck bluff
The other voice channel.
runic knoll
ooh ok lol
runic knoll
The other voice channel.
i thought you meant test the match/switch, I was confused lol
delicate wren
I'm thinking about whether I should publish the data base thing I was building on PyPI
idk if it would be useful to anyone
though it might be
the main thing that goes for it was the ease of use
it's just a key-value store which requires almost zero configuration
"just use json" easily fails on power cuts
delicate wren
the main thing that goes for it was the ease of use
and also that it's python-native in-memory data base storing everything in the same process
basically, it's just a dictionary backed up on disk
stuck bluff
"Building compilation database compile_commands.json"
delicate wren
and also that it's python-native in-memory data base storing everything in the s...
works very good for small projects
works very bad for big projects
ig
delicate wren
the main thing that goes for it was the ease of use
setting up the Db is just one async with statement
import pathlib
from library import DbFactory, KVJson
async def main():
async with DbFactory(pathlib.Path('example.db'), kvfactory=KVJson()) as connection:
await _main(connection)
it doesn't even have proper name yet
another appealing thing is that all reads are sync
and writes can be either sync or async
async def _main(connection: DbConnection):
value0 = connection.get('increment-0', 0)
await connection.set('increment-0', value0 + 1)
value1 = connection.get('increment-1', 0)
connection.set_nowait('increment-1', value1 + 1)
await connection.commit()
sync writes don't guarantee consistency until commit exits
delicate wren
works very good for small projects
works very bad for big projects
it's kind of used for the specific niche of one-process small applications/services
hypothetically, a more robust, distributed solution could be built on top of it
delicate wren
I'm thinking about whether I should publish the data base thing I was building o...
another difficulty is that I'd have to maintain two separate versions of docs
because the current one has some specific details that aren't perfectly suitable for public docs
history of development and projects that use the that library
Erlang's built-in DB has quite a good name
Mnesia
as in opposite of amnesia
delicate wren
I'm thinking about whether I should publish the data base thing I was building o...
should attempt porting it to Rust in some capacity
(that would help improving the Python implementation too)
the implementation I currently have is not as far away from clean state-machine-like code as it was in the early stages of development
undone grail
long pendant
hollow umbra
<@924010347264897024> https://imgur.com/gallery/h4eofgk 🔊
LOL
delicate wren
unions are rare due to extreme unsafety
hearty heath
Yeah that's a lot nicer.
eager tinsel
brb
wintry sparrow
What are we doing 😄
oh
i was muted 😄
Poor foreign women, who are actually for real 😄
wintry sparrow
What projects you working on? 😄
I work on my website & networking security...
https:// for secure...
& working on my own API
For twitch etc... in Python 😄
dusty jetty
cool story
dusty jetty
What projects you doing? What you doing?
sorry the cool story wasnt to you. was to the talkers
dusty jetty
didnt mean to b rude
wintry sparrow
didnt mean to b rude
What you doing mate?
What you progamming?
You in school?
Self study?
I self-studied myself...
dusty jetty
no i just code for fun
wintry sparrow
Ah, i dont do it for fun, i'm a developer 😄
dusty jetty
nuffin right now
wintry sparrow
What you going call the language 😄
Set the API headers and parameters
headers = {
'Client-ID': 'client',
'Authorization': 'auth'
}
params = {
'user_id': user_id
}
Check if the user is currently streaming
streams_response = requests.get(streams_endpoint, headers=headers, params=params).json()
if 'data' in streams_response and streams_response['data']:
# If the user is streaming, get information about the most recent video from that stream
video_params = {
'user_id': user_id,
'first': '1',
'sort': 'time',
'type': 'archive'
}
videos_response = requests.get(videos_endpoint, headers=headers, params=video_params).json()
if 'data' in videos_response and videos_response['data']:
# If the user has recent videos from their stream, you can use the URL of the first video to broadcast it
video_url = videos_response['data'][0]['url']
print(f"The user is streaming and their most recent video is available at {video_url}")
else:
print("The user is streaming, but there are no available videos from their stream")
else:
print("The user is not currently streaming")
thats where im at related to python 😄
i have auth key but it dont work...
i have another code, it works if i put helix/stream
but not if i put my own client /stream
If i have 2 computers only & 1laptop...
What i do i need 2 linux, i want windows on laptop for school...
Harddrive! 😄
mild flume
I don't follow, are you asking what you would need to do to install Linux onto one of the computers?
wintry sparrow
Noo, im just considering how to set my eniovrement i have ubuntu but want a kali...
But there is so much data on the ubuntu now...
wintry sparrow
yeah...
Where i put kali, on my laptop?
Can i use it for web development school then?
Not my gaming PC...
stuck bluff
Ninjas are for Halloween, not for the workplace.
mild flume
You have Kali as a virtual machine or installed on a flashdrive or something
stuck bluff
Don't develop on Kali.
wintry sparrow
Kali works for school?
I might start in august...
& wouldnt it be difficult getting windows back?
I dont have bootable windows...
stuck bluff
Kali is something you throw onto a bootable usb or dvd and you boot up into it when you want to use its tools.
misty sinew
Kali is something you throw onto a bootable usb or dvd and you boot up into it w...
Or virtual box in my opinion
stuck bluff
Or virtual box.
wintry sparrow
not a fan of virtual box
misty sinew
Yeah it's easier I'm my case I don't have to carry anything
wintry sparrow
Diffferent OS, different hardware...
misty sinew
Diffferent OS, different hardware...
Yeah good point
stuck bluff
not a fan of virtual box
QEMU, then. Virtualbox is easier.
mild flume
I have dozens for that reason
wintry sparrow
They leaving to focus on progamming...
wintry sparrow
I have dozens for that reason
Yes every man needs an usb pen 😄
stuck bluff
Bakers' or standard?
wintry sparrow
Perspective.. 😄
mild flume
@terse osprey I might bend your ear about some SNES stuff
wintry sparrow
I so want to travel like my father...
Tech, that's easy enough, aren't it...
You know, chill...
mild flume
Looking into doing that as well, ideally being able to read from my carts to run from them directly
wintry sparrow
But now adays, alot is stationairy isnt it, home work...
mild flume
wintry sparrow
I could put a kali on laptop...
It's just data, what if i need to reset on school...
mild flume
wintry sparrow
They should teach in linux..
That's exspectations raised...
We raise the wrong exspectations probably
stuck bluff
Sauce-pouring emulation comes in two distinct forms: Open sauce and closed sauce.
wintry sparrow
If youre not willing to reinstall your pc...
Or maybe they dont know, country matters..
Nobody knows what a linux are..
Of course they dont learn it where i go...
mild flume
stuck bluff
!e ```py
class MyBool(bool):
pass
MyBool()```
coarse hearthBOT
@stuck bluff :x: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 1.
001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 | File "/home/main.py", line 1, in <module>
003 | class MyBool(bool):
004 | TypeError: type 'bool' is not an acceptable base type
true valley
👋
dawn nova
@candid garnet what are you making? i am not allowed to voice chat yet
coarse hearthBOT
dawn nova
yeah, i dont have enough of the criteria met
it was working for me
@ornate cobalt can you explain what a bucket is in this context, i feel like i understood this at one point but forgot.
ahh okay so normally does it just remake the entire map if it needs more buckets?
@ornate cobalt ahh okay so normally does it just remake the entire map if it needs more buckets?
dawn nova
@ornate cobalt is it fast tho
@ornate cobalt yeah but is it fast c
@ornate cobalt millions of things per second or ur not even C plus plussing
@ornate cobalt i agree with Krzystof, we need bucketception
dawn nova
@sly pond stream some python for us
dawn nova
like the srvr wont let you?
sly pond
Besides, I don't have anything to do with Python anyways, I use it like 2x a year for PyWeek
and occasionally for some automation of a boring process
dawn nova
what do you normally program in?
sly pond
flutter and php
❤️ SQL too
I generally try to stay away from the PHP, but when something needs done
dawn nova
i only know python, just started programming 4 months ago
i hope these messages count towards my 50 messages needed to enable voice chat
dawn nova
ai gonna take over the world soon, then all we need is python to program the ai
some1 needs to make a voice changer that mimics the robot lag voice
if it isnt already out
sly pond
Yea, it's a strange effect
dawn nova
earlier you said something about intellij and it didnt sound positive, is there something i should know? i use pycharm
ahh i see
i genuinely havent seen anything that impressive about vim but im still new so : /
sly pond
I love the console
and the fact that vi is accessible in near every terminal you ssh into is convenient
dawn nova
i'v watched some videos where people are like: "look at this think you can do really fast in vim" and i can do it pretty much just as fast in pycharm
sly pond
once you know how to maneuver in vim it's quite fun
sly pond
just like CI then something
to swap out a string, contents of a function
it's a whole different way to navigate your code
it's like code surfing instead of just walking
unique bane
A great language to start with IMO
sorry for asking this so suddenly, i'm learning python so i can get a job ( currently i'm 15yo, next month i will be 16yo ), can i get a job just with python if i'm good at it?
unique bane
never heard about it
sly pond
learn containers, learn git, learn the tools as well
unique bane
but i'll be taking notes
sly pond
how to deploy and maintain projects
but if you stick with it, you can definitely find yourself a jobnn
I highly recommend trying pyweek, every 6 months the server hosts a weeklong game jam
just wrapped one up
dawn nova
how long have you been programming DINO?
unique bane
i'm learning through a book, i think the english name is "Think Python", i've been saving my version of every exercise in the book so i maybe publish them on git for future purposes
unique bane
how long have you been programming DINO?
3-4 days but i'm very pleased with the results
am i allowed to send some scripts i made here?
dawn nova
i have no idea, i would assume so. it is a python discord and i see code linked in other places
sly pond
!paste
coarse hearthBOT
sly pond
easiest way to share lots of code
unique bane
k
sly pond
!code if they're short feel free to embed
coarse hearthBOT
ornate cobalt
unique bane
pls don't mind the language, i'm brazilian
sly pond
you're doing great
unique bane
def draw_line(x):
if x > 1:
print("+ - - - - "*x + "+")
else:
print("+ - - - - +")
def vertical_line(x,y):
while y >= 1:
if x > 1:
print("| "*x + "|")
y -= 1
else:
print("| |")
y -= 1
def draw_square(x):
y = (x)
if x == 1:
draw_line(x)
vertical_line(x,x*3)
draw_line(x)
elif x >= 1:
draw_line(x)
while y >= 1:
vertical_line(x,3)
draw_line(x)
y -= 1
while True:
x = (input('Escolha um valor: '))
if x.find('.') == 1 or x.find(',') == 1:
print ("Você precisa definir um valor inteiro")
break
x = int(x)
if x <= 0:
print ("Você precisa definir um valor positivo.")
else:
draw_square(x)
break
that was the first code i've created
it generates proportional squares with a value you give it ( the code refuses the value if it's a float or a negative )
sly pond
Wonder if I can find my first scripts
unique bane
the first language i've tried to learn was Java but i was taking so long to learn so little
unique bane
```
def draw_line(x):
if x > 1:
print("+ - - - - "*x + "+")
else...
being able to build this by myself in the first day with Python pleases me a lot
sly pond
Ooh, found one of my really old ones
unique bane
may i see it?
dawn nova
i only really make stuff that helps me understand python better
unique bane
i only really make stuff that helps me understand python better
oh, like docs?
dawn nova
im not sure what you mean by docs, what i mean is for example, i recently realized i didnt understand how slicing with negative indices worked so i make a function to visualize it
sly pond
def get_initial(name, force_upper=True):
if force_upper:
initial = name[:1].upper() # Gets first from name, upper cases it
else:
initial = name[:1]
return initial # Returns the initial
print(get_initial('john'))```the oldest script I found on this computer
unique bane
im not sure what you mean by docs, what i mean is for example, i recently realiz...
now i get it, i should follow your example and do the same, but i'm trusting myself not to forget what everything does XD
sly pond
from datetime import * # Calls datetime Library
now = datetime.now()
day = now.day
hour = now.hour
minute = now.minute
second = now.second
micro = now.microsecond``` has this gem of a commentthat rlly isn't bad for a first script
unique bane
where did you started learning?
sly pond
I used automate the boring stuff, kaggle, Real Python
to start
went through until I got stuck, then moved to the next one
then went until I was stuck and moved to the next one
then went until I was stuck and went back to where I left off on the first one
at which point I would wonder why I even got stuck at all, and push forward a few more chapters
dawn nova
automate the boring stuff was too boring for me :*(
sly pond
then get stuck and move to kaggle, then brush up on Real Python
and repeat
Utilizing multiple resources really hammered the concepts in
unique bane
my problem is that i know the code, but i dont know what to do with it, so i need the book to give me exercises
sly pond
Make a game
dawn nova
i'v been doing stuff in pygame
sly pond
have you done hangman / tic tac toe / connect 4 in the terminal yet?
unique bane
Make a game
i was thinking about making a full ASCII game with Python while taking a shower
unique bane
have you done hangman / tic tac toe / connect 4 in the terminal yet?
nope
sly pond
good ones to do
unique bane
but that's a good idea
sly pond
start with rock paper scissors
but drawing and managing the tic tac toe / connect 4 board is fun
drawing a stick figure is a lot of fun too
I recommend raw strings, but you do what you want 🙂
unique bane
start with rock paper scissors
i think i can code this one rn
sly pond
yea, that one shouldn't take too long
You can also make an ATM / bank
no need for persistent storage
but let people make accounts
deposit money
withdraw money
check balances
give em a pin
or let em pick
unique bane
not so sure how i would make tic tac toe, i don't know how to make an app interface, neither a good control for selecting the square on the console
unique bane
but let people make accounts
i will be taking note of these so i can have something to post on my git when i start using it xd
sly pond
look into it
I'd do it in the console firsrt
just draw the board on multiple lines
>>> x = ' | | \n-----\n | |\n-----\n | |'
>>> print(x)
| |
-----
| |
-----
| |
>>>```Then there's the fancy box characters
unique bane
understood
unique bane
probably the user would choose the input on a to c, 1 to 3 format
sly pond
That'll work
unique bane
if i'm allowed to ask, how would you do it? ( the selection part )
sly pond
I went with numbers
unique bane
like x, y?
sly pond
displayed 1-9 initially in the grid
unique bane
ooooh
sly pond
then replaced em with X's and O's as you play
unique bane
that's neat
sly pond
I felt it was pretty intuitive
unique bane
like a dial from an old phone
sly pond
yea
unique bane
I felt it was pretty intuitive
yea it is
that's the exercise i'm doing rn
def uses_only(palavra,lista_negra):
for letter in palavra:
if lista_negra.find(letter) == -1:
return False
break
return True
You should try naming things in English, it's easier to collaborate, and then you'll be brushing up your English while programming
the keywords are all English anyways, it's the defacto language of code
unique bane
You should try naming things in English, it's easier to collaborate, and then yo...
yea, since i'm on a english server that would be the best way to go
sly pond
I speak english fluently, been speaking all my life, and even I struggle naming variables
come suffer with us in English 🙂
You'll learn a lot of fun words along the way
unique bane
I speak english fluently, been speaking all my life, and even I struggle naming ...
TheLocationWhereICanFindGoodCoffeButPayingLow = 0
sly pond
although_python_likes_snake_case
PascalCase for classes
I think the rest goes snake_case
whereas Dart, what I normally work with is camelCase for variables, PascalCase for classes, and snake_case for files...
unique bane
def uses_only(word,black_list):
for letter in word:
if black_list.find(letter) == -1:
return False
break
return True
can u understand it better now?
sly pond
it returns True if only the black_list letter is used in the word? aaaaa returns true with a
rough hawk
is anyone aware of any japanese coding languages?
unique bane
it returns True if only the black_list letter is used in the word? aaaaa returns...
absolutely
rough hawk
Who is familiar with Dolittle?
sly pond
🚋 💥
unique bane
sly pond
I guess it looks like black_list could be a list even
or a longer string
can you pass ab into 34?
if it looks like a 🦆
unique bane
can you pass ab into 34?
you've got me confuse now
sly pond
line 34
unique bane
Oh
sly pond
print(uses_only('aaaaaaab', 'ab'))``` would that return true?yes
sly pond
it would
!e```py
def uses_only(word,black_list):
for letter in word:
if black_list.find(letter) == -1:
return False
break
return True
print(uses_only('bananas', 'ba'))
print(uses_only('bananas', 'bans'))```
❤️ this server
sly pond
so fun
unique bane
i get rlly happy by spending time solving exercises on it
sly pond
Yea, the AI makes it even more fun, but you gotta learn what you're doing first
then you can let the computer do it for you
unique bane
i will be working hard on Python this year, i live on a small city, so if i find a job it needs to be a remote one
sly pond
It is a worthwhile endeavor
unique bane
and i think that having the privilege to work from home must be only to good developers
sly pond
You can be self employed, help local people with programmatic solutions
automate processes
unique bane
that's a valid option too
unique bane
as long as i'm getting paid, i would accept it
unique bane
I imagine people still use computers out there
yes xd
sly pond
You can automate many processes
that people who don't quite know how to use a computer take hours, to take seconds or less
sly pond
I bet using the word spam in more messages will help your situation
dawn nova
will it -_-
unique bane
i will be heading to bed rn, i need to wake up at 5am for school so i need some zzz's
bye 👋
sly pond
sleep is critical
dawn nova
pce
sly pond
goodnight
unique bane
goodnight y'all
coarse hearthBOT
dawn nova
board = [["_"] * 3 for _ in range(3)]
map_commands = {
"top left": board[0][0],
"top": board[0][1],
"top right": board[0][2],
"left": board[1][0],
"middle": board[1][1],
"right": board[1][2],
"bottom left": board[2][0],
"bottom": board[2][1],
"bottom right": board[2][2],
}
while True:
player_input = input("choose: top, bottom, left, right or top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right: ")
map_commands[player_input] = "X"
for row in board:
for char in row:
print(f'{char: >3}', end="")
print()
i think it doesnt work the way i planned because the char is immutable
i think it should work if the value in the map is a mutable datatype
but then its not simple
dawn nova
@keen magnet mCoding has a good video on generators and the yield from keyword: https://youtu.be/tmeKsb2Fras?t=785
board = [[list("_") for _ in range(3)] for _ in range(3)]
map_commands = {
"top left": board[0][0],
"top": board[0][1],
"top right": board[0][2],
"left": board[1][0],
"middle": board[1][1],
"right": board[1][2],
"bottom left": board[2][0],
"bottom": board[2][1],
"bottom right": board[2][2],
}
player = 0
while True:
player_input = input("choose: top, bottom, left, right or top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right: ")
if player % 2 == 0:
map_commands[player_input][0] = "X"
else:
map_commands[player_input][0] = "O"
player += 1
for row in board:
for char in row:
print(f'{char[0]: >3}', end="")
print()
finished
@pale pivot the way you are showing them the yield from keyword is just a substitute for a for loop, which is not what it was introduced into the language for, according to mCoding. i linked a video earlier if you want to watch it.
pale pivot
<@378279228002664454> the way you are showing them the yield from keyword is jus...
I wasn't implying that, I showed off some coroutines with it so I'm not sure what you mean
dawn nova
@pale pivot maybe i missed that, also im new to programming so i could be wrong.
covert arrow
your wild man this shit is impressive, how long have you been coding?
real monolith
what r u coding ?
north nacelle
@ornate cobalt what are you trying to build?
umbral rose
!stream 500168097852948482
coarse hearthBOT
✅ @terse osprey can now stream until <t:1681789501:f>.
terse osprey
oh, times up lol
fathom scarab
what are you guys building?
a game fellas?
delicate wren
didn't notice it's vc1 not vc0
@misty sinew @ornate cobalt next will be JS only
or JS, Python, Ruby, so no complaints
I'm not risking adding Perl to the list
are this settings OK for the next one?
Ruby is so cursed
it's way better for code golf than Python
oh
both are imperfect then
ik how to make it 42
now
I'm going to lose to Ruby
misty sinew
I haven't used Ruby in a while, am a bit rusty, don't you worry
