off-topic-lounge-text

[near wren]

Just do more coding

This is the basics but

I recommend watching YouTube videos

Such as code bro

Maybe like

[summer karma]

im using solo learn

website

[near wren]

No

[summer karma]

5$ a month

[near wren]

Websites suck

[summer karma]

why

[near wren]

Do not pay for any shit

[summer karma]

im learning really well

[near wren]

Nothing will help you

Well

I don’t recommend it

[summer karma]

alright

[near wren]

Here

You want a really good

Tutorial?

[summer karma]

yes

absolutely

[near wren]

This tutorial is 10 hours long

It takes a lot of time

You think you have the passion for it?

[summer karma]

im trying to get into files etc, like cyber security, managing files etc

[near wren]

Yeah

[summer karma]

absolutely bro

[near wren]

There’s the basics of files in here

Here’s the video

[summer karma]

alright

[near wren]

Let me get it

There’s some file working at hour 7

Here let me get it

[summer karma]

alright

[near wren]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKHEtdqhLK8&pp=ygUPQ29kZSBicm8gcHV0aG9u

If you watch through this video

You will be able to somewhat understand even advanced lines of code

It’s pretty cool

I watched this a while back

I learned a lot

[summer karma]

so how many parts of it do i watch a day?

[near wren]

Well

[summer karma]

i code for 2-3 hours a day

sooo 2-3 hours?

[near wren]

This is what I recommend

No

Don’t watch it

[summer karma]

alright

[near wren]

For 2-3 hours

I recommend you watching it

For 30 minutes including paying

Pausing

And while you’re doing it

[summer karma]

alright

[near wren]

If you have any like ideas that use the topic

Try to make it

If you fail to do so

Use chat got

Gpt

And then try to understand why it works

Ask questions

[summer karma]

i only use chat gpt to help me with something i dont understand or how i can fix my answers. i dont make it solve it

[near wren]

Stay curious and you will win

Well

Sometimes you need to make it solve it

In order to understand

Not always tho

[summer karma]

so let it solve it and then try to understand or make it explain it?

[near wren]

Well

[summer karma]

only if im stuck on a script for a while?

[near wren]

If you feel like you won’t be able to solve of yourself

It

[summer karma]

alright

[near wren]

Then I recommend making it solve if for you

It

[summer karma]

thank you bro

[near wren]

No problem

If you want to learn the basics of file usage

It should be at around hour 7

But I believe at hour 4 it covers the re import

This includes deleting files

Permission work

Error managers

It’s pretty cool

Enjoy

Also

If you want

There’s a thing called messenger box

It’s an included Python package

Just do import message box

Work around with that

Anyways see ya man

[summer karma]

it includes os, file pathing, etc?

see ya bro, thx

[opaque acorn]

hey

[open isle]

print("hi")

[south pendant]

x = NANI?
print (f"Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru": {x})

[near wren]

What

[primal bison]

gg permissions.

[primal bison]

text

[true grove]

whats the website she is using to learn how to code

its free right

<@&267628507062992896>

[frigid sable]

Hi, please don't ping the Admins unless the server is borked

[grand current]

hi

[trim cypress]

can someone help me learn me the basics of python

on mac

[night lily]

I commonly recommend Corey Schafer's YouTube playlists.

!resources

[timid fjord]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[trim cypress]

@night lily thx!

[opaque grove]

Why can't I stream in Live-Coding?

[weak socket]

also why I can't speak on voicecall?

[violet kiln]

You need to spent a certain amount of time to get premision it is a rule to avoid trolls.

[violet kiln]

If you hang out for 2 days in the chat you will gain voice premmision

[night lily]

#voice-verification

[violet kiln]

https://www.google.com/search?q=bible+verse+for+those+who+do+not+believe+in+god+being+friends+with+them+u+can+go+to+hell&sca_esv=22ec9f761c63f1b9&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn0-nhD2sSFzzmSL8lAx-q2YoLvfd6g%3A1714516059439&source=hp&ei=W3AxZpbLF6iX9u8PzqqS6AM&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZjF-a56fA0lhKaV5OzWsJNI8ECiOq52f&ved=0ahUKEwjW5LmF_uqFAxWoi_0HHU6VBD0Q4dUDCBY&uact=5&oq=bible+verse+for+those+who+do+not+believe+in+god+being+friends+with+them+u+can+go+to+hell&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IlhiaWJsZSB2ZXJzZSBmb3IgdGhvc2Ugd2hvIGRvIG5vdCBiZWxpZXZlIGluIGdvZCBiZWluZyBmcmllbmRzIHdpdGggdGhlbSB1IGNhbiBnbyB0byBoZWxsMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABSL-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&sclient=gws-wiz

Jesus said no one is good but God:

Luke 18:19 So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

absurd

[dense holly]

What you guys are doing in Voice Chat??

[past jay]

bro

[eternal schooner]

trying to solve a question

[long wyvern]

marhaben ya haji

[ripe meadow]

someone here ?

i just want to complete my 50 messages to use the voice chat

[primal bison]

ok

[primal bison]

To find a woman you need time and money therefore:
Woman = time x money

2. time is money so:
   Time = money

3. therefore
   Women = Money x money
   Woman = (money squared)

4. (Money sqaured) is the root of all problems

Money = problems

5. Woman =problems (squared)
   Woman =problems

[maiden mesa]

Your math is wrong

[runic girder]

Bro copied a TikTok and still somehow got it wrong

When money squared (m) is the root of all problems

It means m == sqrt(p)

Where p is problems

Meaning that w = p directly

[shadow sequoia]

Also the flaw in this reasoning

Needing food and water does not mean needing food * water

They r different units time and money

[spare sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[slow wind]

@neon portal what are you working on?

[neon portal]

Just a tensor computation package.

[primal bison]

hello

i need to send 50 texts

[obtuse void]

bad fo you i guess

[visual path]

Whats this about?

[visual path]

And this

[bronze stratus]

hello, my grid wont stretch the entire length of the screen and im not sure why

import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import ttk

window = tk.Tk()
window.geometry('2000x2000')
window.title('diet tracker')

breakfast_label = tk.Label(window, text="breakfast")
breakfast_label.pack()

breakfast_menu = tk.Button(window, text="add breakfast item")
breakfast_menu.pack(fill='x')

my_frame = tk.Frame(window, width=2000, height=400)
my_frame.pack_propagate(False)
my_frame.pack()

my_frame.columnconfigure((0,1,2,3,4), weight=1)
my_frame.rowconfigure((0,1), weight=1)

protein_label = tk.Label(my_frame, text="protein")
calories_label = tk.Label(my_frame, text="calories")
fat_label = tk.Label(my_frame, text="fat")
carbohydrates_label = tk.Label(my_frame, text="carbohydrates")
sodium_label = tk.Label(my_frame, text="sodium")
protein_label1 = tk.Label(my_frame, text="protein")
calories_label1 = tk.Label(my_frame, text="calories")
fat_label1 = tk.Label(my_frame, text="fat")
carbohydrates_label1 = tk.Label(my_frame, text="carbohydrates")
sodium_label1 = tk.Label(my_frame, text="sodium")

protein_label.grid(row=0, column=0, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
calories_label.grid(row=0, column=1, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
fat_label.grid(row=0, column=2, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
carbohydrates_label.grid(row=0, column=3, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
sodium_label.grid(row=0, column=4, sticky="nsew", pady=10)

protein_label1.grid(row=1, column=0, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
calories_label1.grid(row=1, column=1, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
fat_label1.grid(row=1, column=2, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
carbohydrates_label1.grid(row=1, column=3, sticky="nsew", pady=10)
sodium_label1.grid(row=1, column=4, sticky="nsew", pady=10)

window.mainloop()

[bronze stratus]

can anyone shed and light on what im doing wrong? 🙏

[primal bison]

I'd reccomend putting this in a pastebin or using Discord's code formatting feature, it's quite hard to read. Thought it might help you find someone who can help, I'm not familiar with this.

[cloud drift]

Don't you need like a sticky NEWS or something

idk Im a newb

[wicked nova]

hey, anyone available to help me

[undone shell]

with what?

[wicked nova]

i am making a chess application using tkinter and python. I have made a chess board with pieces which are able to move, but for some reason the box's for the chess board are different sizes to the other buttons. Only the box's with a image of the piece on the board initially are the wrong size. But once a piece from that box is moved, the box becomes the normal size (width=10,height = 5)

[undone shell]

not very experienced with tkinter, but can try
Can I have a look at your code?

[wicked nova]

how can i give u the code?

i am trying to send a txt file but its not sending for some reason

[undone shell]

https://pastebin.com/

paste it here

and share the link

[wicked nova]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/3UVQ

ty

@undone shell you found the logic error?

[undone shell]

trying

[wicked nova]

k ty

[undone shell]

I mean there's no difference in the way you are initializing the rows with the pieces and the rows without them
Plus, after initialization, the method that you are using to update the image for each of the buttons, that same method is working fine when any piece is moved from its initial position
Things are symmetric, if something was wrong, it should'nt have occurred just for these specifc rows 🥲

[wicked nova]

yh idk why thats happening either

imma continue trying tho, ty for ur help

[undone shell]

can you join VC and share your screen once?

[wicked nova]

is it ok if i do it in 1 hour

as i am in skl rn

and i have to leave

[undone shell]

that's fine, up to you, no issues

Btw, ideally create_buttons() shouldn't be concerned with updating the button image, from the design perspective

@wicked nova remove line 57
instead, add the nested loop pair at line 44 and call update_button_image() there

This might resolve the issue as well
because this is the one of the differences, when you are putting image in row 7, row 8 buttons haven't been created yet

try it once @wicked nova

[wicked nova]

On my way home, sorry I just turned my laptop off

[undone shell]

It's fine buddy 😅
just tag me once you try that out

[wary sinew]

can someone help me with a quick coding please

[daring yoke]

hope i would be able to pull this of)
whats the problem?

[weak snow]

anybody know how to fix this?

[urban sky]

hello everyone
i have a simple idea about eye protection

check it out this post for further information
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ahmedhassan731_eyecareassistant-ℹ-python-activity-7191503377678135297-1CqZ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

[meager hound]

Hi

[urban sky]

hello

[prime oriole]

Exception : List indices must be integers or slices, not str

I've been creating plotly dash apps its a python interactive visualisation tool, backend data for the dash app comes from aws, so this dash app has two tabs and two views/ queries are to be retrieved. To begin with when do this error occur and I'm unable to find where the error is occuring, based on port number the views are extracted from aws, after extracting its populated and loaded into a dataframe (filtered_df), need help I will explain more about the dash app and its structure but have to clear this exception and load data first.

[bitter latch]

Chease is cheese

[late delta]

boom

bam

bap

badaba boom

paw

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-sad-cat-snaugz-gif-25724376

ee

[timid fjord]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @late delta until <t:1715684388:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @late delta until <t:1715685240:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[grave grove]

Yo wassup everybody

[earnest stirrup]

Hello Armin !

[timid fjord]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @reef dock until <t:1715859667:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[last geode]

can I have some help with my python code?

[primal bison]

how do i install pip on mac

i cant run code

[tawny trail]

u can put it in #1035199133436354600 and ask

[wintry sundial]

python help

[jolly jewel]

Hii 👋

[vernal zealot]

hey I need little help with my deep learning project anyone would like to join vc i can explain it .Explaining it on text is quite difficult for me

[late delta]

hey, anyone familiar with an easy way to make a timer in python/pygame?

i just want a simple timer that counts seconds

[sacred stone]

@cedar wyvern

[lean pine]

what😂

[floral jetty]

Hi I have some questions about a github repository, where can I find people to help me

[weak socket]

multithreading

[remote whale]

what is your doubt

[dense current]

Umm, can anyone cooperate with me to make a pygame project?

Dude you have a mic?

You guys have a mic?

[dull anvil]

existing project?

[weak socket]

ok

[dense current]

yeah

[smoky flame]

yess

[modern dirge]

hello

[native root]

Are folks here interested in learning to contribute to Python Core?
I spent last week at the pycon sprints and did mostly triage of docs pull requests.
I'm happy to do live coding to show what the process is like.

[vital parrot]

i = input("how long? ")

while True:
  f = int(i -= 1)
  print(f)

[vital parrot]

go into vscode and click terminal>new terminal and put the pip command in there

[vital parrot]

I can help what do you need

[frank quail]

@night lily im supresseed :(((

[dull anvil]

👍

[native root]

Most of it is this kind of stuff:
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/119445

I'm not at the point where I can do:
https://github.com/encukou/cpython/commit/1b5662ebcc3f44770add7ff8f579f3c6703d7d3f
but probably @dull anvil is.

[humble robin]

Hello am new here

[maiden maple]

@humble robin hi

@violet kiln hi

[grave nova]

@humble robin me too,

hello

[primal bison]

hey

[lunar kite]

how to fix this anyone help me please

[stable adder]

guys who can help me in my kivy program

[quiet sparrow]

I havent been learning kivy but I was learning PyQt6

whats the problem

I can try to help you

Can someone help me with problem wich occurs while opening python file converted into exe

I'll be waiting

I use PyQt6

[lament aspen]

Hello peoples!

[forest copper]

Hello everyone

[hidden blade]

They are telling you to install Microsoft Visual C++ 14.0 or greater

[lunar kite]

ok

[lunar kite]

how to get it

[hidden blade]

They have given the website in the error message you can go there and follow an instruction guide on YouTube if you cannot figure it out

[bold wing]

raise ImageNotFoundException # Raise PyAutoGUI's ImageNotFoundException.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
pyautogui.ImageNotFoundException

any1 knows why i get this error altho my code and images are perfectly fine ?

i never got that before

always been working just fine

[lunar kite]

command 'C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\2022\Community\VC\Tools\MSVC\14.40.33807\bin\HostX86\x64\cl.exe' failed with exit code 2

how to resolve this

[hidden blade]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76764042/error-command-c-program-files-x86-microsoft-visual-studio-2022-buildtools-v
Look at the solutions here might help you

[lament aspen]

@buoyant kestrel

@fallen topaz

[queen temple]

does anyone here use idle or is good with it?

[dull anvil]

I use it occasionally

[flat sable]

how can I get a permission to turn on my mic

[night lily]

#voice-verification

[half flower]

is there some that can help me with my class work?

I finish coding but i have 6 warrning errors

https://github.com/junlum2023/Course-Project-Phase-4-of-week-9.git

[half flower]

I cant figure out

[fiery umbra]

Print("LOL")

[fiery umbra]

Hai

[lilac halo]

Sup

!code

[timid fjord]

Formatting code on Discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[broken wasp]

hello, is there anyone knows how to make discord bot on line? my python terminal reads: raise client_error(req.connection_key, exc) from exc
aiohttp.client_exceptions.ClientConnectorError: Cannot connect to host discord.com:443 ssl:default [信号灯超时时间已到]

[stone basin]

lmao

[civic glade]

I majorly use only IDLE. Not sure if I'm good with it, but what's up?

[minor cradle]

!compile

How can I compile the code here?

[tardy narwhal]

!e

print("Hello, world!")

[timid fjord]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello, world!

[radiant seal]

any free apis(without limitations for the number of input) to check whether the input ip addresses is using vpn,proxy,etc or not??

[arctic crypt]

hi @primal bison

https://html5up.net/

[astral badger]

New way to stream 💀

[arctic crypt]

@astral badger what you mean

[astral badger]

I mean with camera

[arctic crypt]

it removes live announce

[astral badger]

Nice

[faint tartan]

Hy

[final pewter]

hey guys

can someone tell me what is docstring in py

[unreal shoal]

!e

x = requests.get('https://w3schools.com/python/demopage.htm')

print(x.text)

Damn!

[primal sinew]

print("hello world")

!e

[ocean cloud]

Can i consider this as an api?

[dense current]

???

huh

[dense current]

Isn't requests module just a module for requesting web info or am I wrong at python for thinking this way(I 100% think this way)

[left coral]

hi guys

I have some queries in dictionary in python

[earnest spade]

hello

how may i help

[lunar kite]

can anyone help how to fix this issue

[dull anvil]

which version of aiohttp are you installing?

https://github.com/aio-libs/aiohttp/issues/7229#issuecomment-1663772882

[lunar kite]

I don't know anything I just got a code from one of my friends he told me how to make it work and it's throwing an error

[solar gyro]

kek

[dull anvil]

simplest option I see right now is to just use python 3.11

allegedly this issue has been fixed on aiohttp's side but I don't know if new version with the fix is even released

[dull anvil]

is there a requirements.txt file?

[shy hare]

https://github.com/zayys-services/bookmarks

How do I make the scrollbar go closer without the other window making it dissappear? Whenever I have resize enabled and I make it smaller it goes under the box where the bookmarks are

[lunar kite]

yes

[dull anvil]

what version of aiohttp is specified there?

[worthy scarab]

Anyone can help how to do math formula for python?

[pseudo flax]

print('hey')

[indigo scaffold]

print("cool")

[umbral sapphire]

which formula?

[worthy scarab]

Any formula, there is a way to build formulas to use in exercises for python, I know the order of precedence

[fiery basin]

hate it when "wheels" are gone

[fiery basin]

@primal bison let me show you something

#user input
age2 = input("what is your age?")
print("your age is: " + age2)

age3 = input("what is your age?")
print("my age is: " + age3)```

[lunar kite]

how to fix

[fiery basin]

idk

[lunar kite]

🥲🥲

Not one knows how to fix this issue

[fiery basin]

uh

reset your pc

reinstall python

uhm

fixed?

[ocean cloud]

Yeah i was wrong

[dense current]

Thks for letting me know

And wasn't that an aold post?

[glad fulcrum]

we love python les go

!

[bleak trellis]

what is functionallity of your bot can i get the code u are working on

[viscid yarrow]

Hi @night lily i am voided

I just changed my name

[queen temple]

@buoyant kestrel hey bro r u here?

is there anyone here who can help me

[swift moon]

@fiery basin let me show you something

#user input
age_2 = int(input("what is your age?"))
print(f"your age is: {age_2}")

age_3 = int(input("what is your age?"))
print(f"my age is: {age_3}")```

[stray quartz]

hello everybody nice to meet you all.
I'm doing a small restaurant app but i"m getting trouble in the backend side and that's the error: ```
db = DBase()
NameError: name

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/unknown-10/Desktop/restaurant/gui.py", line 13, in <module>
db = DBase()
10/Desktop/restaurant/.venv/lib/python3.10/site-packages/mysql/connector/connection_cext.py", line 705, in cmd_query
raise get_mysql_exception(
mysql.connector.errors.DatabaseError: 1205 (HY000): Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction ```
I tried killing it in database and deleted all data can i know how to fix it please.

[sand jolt]

hi

[spring horizon]

any one here to help me for one little problem in python ?

please

hello

help me please

[glossy laurel]

Can someone help me with my python Project? I pay 25€/h

If interested pn me 🙂 tell me the hours you need and i send you cash after finished work.

[minor cradle]

Can I do a pip3 install command or is it forbidden?

[steady gazelle]

just send the code i see what can i do

[steady gazelle]

hello

[steady gazelle]

just send the code

[sand jolt]

hi why is django-admin not working in my terminal even though i have installed django

[steady gazelle]

try adding the file django-admin.py to your python path

[left coral]

hi guys

[midnight silo]

could someone help me find the problems with my code

[fiery basin]

Where is bro programming 💀

Notepad--

[calm flower]

you should definitely get a new code editor

or at least ctrl+n to make an actual file

and you should learn the syntax

cause what you wrote is like 5 programming languages combined

[astral stag]

InvalidValue
google.auth.exceptions.InvalidValue: Token used too early, 1719438629 < 1719438630. Check that your computer's clock is set correctly.
how do i fix this guys

[brittle grail]

!paste

[primal bison]

Bro is this in Python or what because this is kind of mixing pseudocodes with Python syntaxes

[primal bison]

idle is goated

[candid raven]

hi

[hidden surge]

Hi

Hi

Hi

[primal bison]

hello

would you like to test a game i made

on python

tell me any improvementes i can make on it too

[sour star]

hi all

[halcyon fjord]

hi

hello

[rigid prawn]

hi what is happening in voice today

[fathom flame]

hello

[vernal field]

Oh wow, my laptop is still chugging while streaming..

ugh, this is stupid

[warped siren]

It's better to use a vscode, it highlights the particular error

[midnight silo]

I have to learn it for my school cause thats what they make us use in our exams

[shrewd trellis]

can I have permission to speak on the voice chat?

please

I need to speak to @fallen topaz

[night lily]

#voice-verification

I see you have it.

Nevermind. My bad. 😁

[magic hazel]

This scammers don't stop even if u hack their network

They destroyed so many lives

[short forge]

guys can you help me

for installing chatterbot

[primal bison]

this is hilarious haha

[hidden osprey]

hi everyone

i have a python script when i run the code in vscode it's working fine but when i convert to exe it gives me errors

[primal bison]

How you're covering it and what errors are you facing

[primal bison]

that"s sounds strange

[loud moon]

this is my code

Online Python - IDE, Editor, Compiler, Interpreter

import random
party = open("party.txt").readlines()
murderer = random.choice(party)
guesses = 3
print("Welcome to the Caveat Mansion!")
def mansion():
while guesses > 0:
print("You are all enjoying dinner.")
print("The lights go out.")
killing
print (party, " are still alive")
print ("Who do you think is the murderer? (case sensitive")
choice = input()
if choice == murderer:
combat
if choice != murder and choice in party:
guesses = guesses - 1
print("Wrong person. You have", guesses, "guesses left.")
mansion
else:
print ("ERROR WITH INPUT, PLEASE ONLY TYPE A VALID MEMBER OF THE PARTY. BACK TO MANSION SEQUENCE.")
mansion
def combat():
chance = randint(1, 20)
print (murderer, "REVEALS A PISTOL. ")
print ("QUICK. YOU DRAW YOUR CONCEALED CARRY")
print ("IF THIS NUMBER IS ABOVE 10 YOU HIT THE SHOT")
print (chance)
if chance > 10:
winner
if chance < 11:
failure

    def killing():
        dead = random.choice(party)
        print ("When the lights come on, ", dead, "is dead." )
        party.remove(dead)
        mansion
failure

mansion
def failure():
print ("YOU LOSE. PLEASE RESTART PROGRAM TO PLAY AGAIN")
def winner():
print ("YOU WIN. PLEASE RESTART PROGRAM TO PLAY AGAIN")

It wont run def mansion

@primal bison

ill pay u 5 bucks to help guide me

[green cargo]

it seems youre missing () after your function calls? also "if choice != murderer* and choice in party:" did you mean murderer instead of murder?

[green cargo]

Hello to those who join, it seems i dont yet have permission to speak, i think ineed to send a few more messages.

I'm going to be writing some code to get back into python, this time using tkinter, ttkbootstrap and integrating my old hangman game into something more visual

I can't share

ah, im still 20 messages away from being able to talk. Oops!

[green cargo]

Oh so you cant share at all! Wow that kind of sucks

[past harness]

@still flicker george carlin

[primal bison]

@waxen ember

come here

[waxen ember]

HELLO 👋🏽

[primal bison]

hi

[primal bison]

can you understand this?

code

[waxen ember]

wait

bunedi gijd

[maiden maple]

@inner terrace

[inner terrace]

'''py

[maiden maple]

!paste

[timid fjord]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[maiden maple]

@inner terrace

#❓｜how-to-get-help @inner terrace Get help from there

[inner terrace]

@maiden maple thanks

[maiden maple]

Np

[patent shuttle]

how do u know?

[empty night]

this is epic

@fossil juniper

i might be making a game in c++ rn

[patent shuttle]

[stark crown]

hi sorry maria my mic is blocked on this server idk why

[night lily]

#voice-verification

[pure minnow]

tough life out here

[plucky temple]

coding Live(actually learning)

[patent shuttle]

h,,

[low prism]

hello everyone

[tropic copper]

holle

[spiral nest]

Hello everyone

!voice

[timid fjord]

Voice verification

Can’t talk in voice chat? Check out #voice-verification to get access. The criteria for verifying are specified there.

[maiden maple]

@woeful surge ?

[patent shuttle]

hey

[spiral nest]

Hey

Guy's

[spiral nest]

Hello

[patent shuttle]

hey

guys

hello

[uncut quail]

Heu

[void talon]

What are y'all workin on?

[fathom flame]

.

[shrewd trellis]

I want to build a very simple and small web with python without using any frameworks at all

just vanilla python and the web core technologies

what do you advice me?

[coarse kettle]

Who can help me with this
And is all about coding

[sullen vector]

Is this all based on python

[static coral]

naw it says visual basic, and even i dont hate myself enough to wanna do that

[sullen vector]

Lol

[sullen vector]

Im new to python
So how should I start learning it

@static coral

[static coral]

Bro. How would ik how you learn, idk I did it by doing it. I just read code and figured it out.

[sullen vector]

Ah okay

[mystic breach]

i need help can someone help me in dm

[cosmic holly]

There's always #1035199133436354600

[torpid granite]

Hi

[hidden spindle]

hi

[tranquil plank]

Hey

[tame compass]

Sup

[sharp slate]

hi all,
Can someone tell me what am I doing wrong?

What does this error mean?

[upbeat mirage]

https://darkreader.org/

[empty night]

hi

im coding

me!

:)

👍

[upbeat mirage]

!pip metpy

[timid fjord]

MetPy v1.6.2

Collection of tools for reading, visualizing and performing calculations with weather data.

Released on <t:1712075998:D>.

[neon portal]

def encode_state(state: NDArray[np.complex128],
                 num_layers: int,
                 max_error: float,
                 bond_dimension=1024) -> tuple[Circuit, float]:
    mps = MPS(statevector=state, bond_dimension=bond_dimension)

    circuit = sequential_encoder.prepare_mps(mps, num_layers=num_layers)
    statevector = circuit.get_statevector()

    fidelity = abs(np.dot(state.conj(), statevector))

    while fidelity < 1 - max_error:
        print(f"Fidelity for {num_layers} layers, {bond_dimension} bond dimension, with {max_error} max error is : {fidelity}")
        encode_state(state, num_layers*2, max_error)

    return circuit, fidelity

sequential_encoder = Sequential(QiskitCircuit)

def generate_random_state(num_qubits: int) -> NDArray[np.complex128]:
    data = np.random.rand(2**num_qubits) + 1j * np.random.rand(2**num_qubits)
    data /= np.linalg.norm(data)
    return data

def encode_state(state: NDArray[np.complex128],
                 num_layers: int,
                 max_error: float,
                 bond_dimension=1024) -> tuple[Circuit, float]:
    mps = MPS(statevector=state, bond_dimension=bond_dimension)

    circuit = sequential_encoder.prepare_mps(mps, num_layers=num_layers)
    statevector = circuit.get_statevector()

    fidelity = abs(np.dot(state.conj(), statevector))

    while fidelity < 1 - max_error:
        print(f"Fidelity for {num_layers} layers, {bond_dimension} bond dimension, with {max_error} max error is : {fidelity}")
        encode_state(state, num_layers*2, max_error)

    return circuit, fidelity

def generate_plot(max_num_qubits: int,
                  max_error: float) -> tuple[list[float], list[int]]:
    num_qubits = range(1, max_num_qubits + 1)
    fidelities = []
    depths = []

    for qubits in tqdm(num_qubits):
        state = generate_random_state(qubits)
        circuit, fidelity = encode_state(state, num_layers=8, max_error=max_error)
        fidelities.append(fidelity)
        depths.append(circuit.get_depth())

    return fidelities, depths

!paste

[timid fjord]

Pasting large amounts of code

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After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[neon portal]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/G2DQ

[empty night]

i think i compiled it wrong or something

[neon portal]

num_paths = [2**i for i in range(5, 10)]
paths = []
amps = []

for path in tqdm(num_paths, desc="Running..."):
    qpi = QPI(initial=np.array([0, 0]), final=np.array([0.1, 0.1]), bisection_level=4, number_paths=path, n_filtrations=0)
    probability_amplitude, path_list = qpi.calculate_fpi()
    paths.append((path_list[0], qpi.time_steps))
    amps.append(probability_amplitude)

[left helm]

what's the project about ?

[upbeat mirage]

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2023JC020801

[night lily]

@primal bison 👋

@north beacon 👋

[primal bison]

@night lily hi

[maiden maple]

@primal bison Hi';

[iron grotto]

it's not discord

it's my tool

under developing

[tropic copper]

hello

[maiden maple]

@fossil juniper Hello

@wheat crane

This is what I think this code do

[tropic copper]

hello

[devout stag]

@buoyant kestrel I give permission

facts

@leaden adder Muted without proof love it

[leaden adder]

That's wild asf

Make an appeal

[devout stag]

I'd rather donate 1,000,000$ to millan

[leaden adder]

LOL

[maiden maple]

@fossil juniper I need to install docker in wsl?

Can you help me?

[fossil juniper]

follow the website instructions: https://docs.docker.com/desktop/install/windows-install/

[maiden maple]

#voice-chat-text-1 message what's wrong in this?

[fossil juniper]

never blindly trust anyone on the internet.. check the official website and follow the instructions from there

if the official website does not name that package in their instructions, do not install it

it is just safe practice

docker.io is named as an unofficial package on their website.. so it should be safe
although it might be for ubuntu and not wsl as it is listed for ubuntu installation
sometimes wsl acts weird and packages can't be accessed from win to wsl

[maiden maple]

Ok Thanks @fossil juniper

[dense thunder]

If anyone is bored and got literally nothing to do and would want to do something feel free to create a countdown bot for me that is talking in vc like this: 3 minutes til countdown
2 minutes till countdown
1 minute til countdown
30 seconds til cluntdoen
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1
Go

30 sec wait time till repeat

Pls help me with this bot i need it for my server. It will pop off ong
Dont rpely if u js gon say no one gon do it pls
I need this person who can do it so pls help me when ur bored

[ocean cloud]

Have any one worked in upwork before?

[empty moat]

no

[torpid cradle]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/3SWA

guys what do you think of it I just want to implement the fuction that the user can play again, but I just tsarted to learn python and programming and this is my first own project I build without any help, just full knowledge of mine

[sage dune]

!pip django

[timid fjord]

Django v5.0.7

A high-level Python web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design.

Released on <t:1720534028:D>.

[timid fjord]

requests v2.32.3

Python HTTP for Humans.

Released on <t:1716997069:D>.

[sullen vector]

Ask this in #python-discussion they will surely help you

@dense thunder

[primal bison]

you should try to explore the conditions which keep your game loop open. as in, while the user wants to play the game, it runs etc..
right now, you have it so that as soon as you hit a condition on that hand, the while closes and your game is done.
you could modify it to consider other states, ie the desire for the user to play again
this could potentially exist as another while loop, or multiple conditions on an existing loop. I'm not sure what the cleanest, most efficient or "pythonic" way is, but it gives you a start to explore options.

[astral wren]

Hello guys

Am trying to create a calculator app but am findings it difficult in bringing an index or statement that if you type a letter instead of a number it should give you an error when doing calculation .

this is the code

import Calculator

name = input('Enter your name: ')

while True:
op = input('Enter sigh (+,-,*,/,%,): ')

if op in ('+','-','*','/','%','^'):

    num1 = float(input('Enter first number :  '))
    num2 = float(input('Enter second number :  '))

    if op == '+':
        result = Calculator.add(num1,num2)
    if op == '-':
        result = Calculator.sub(num1,num2)
    if op == '*':
        result = Calculator.mul(num1,num2)
    if op == '/':
        result = Calculator.div(num1,num2)
    if op == '%':
        result = Calculator.mod(num1,num2)
    
    print('Result =', result)
else:
    print('invalid option!')
    continue

next_calculation = input('Would you like to continue. (yes/no): ')
if next_calculation != 'yes':
    print('Thanks you ',name, 'for your calculations!')
    break

[torpid cradle]

Calculator

#Add
def add(n1, n2):
return n1 + n2

#Subtract
def subtract(n1, n2):
return n1 - n2

#Multiply
def multiply(n1, n2):
return n1 * n2

#Divide
def divide(n1, n2):
return n1 / n2

operations = {
"+": add,
"-": subtract,
"*": multiply,
"/": divide,
}

def calculator():
num1 = float(input("Whats the first number?:"))

for key in operations:
    print(key)

on = True
while on:
    operation_symbol = input("Pick an operation")
    num2 = float(input("Whats the next number:? "))
#Meine Lösung
##match operation_symbol:
#    case "+":
#        solution = add(num1, num2)
#    case "-":
#        solution = subtract(num1, num2)
#    case "*":
#        solution = multiply(num1, num2)
#    case "/":
#        solution = divide(num1, num2)

#Lösung von Doezentin
    calculation_function = operations[operation_symbol]
    solution = calculation_function(num1, num2)
    print(f"{num1} {operation_symbol} {num2} = {solution} ")

    if input(f"Type 'y' to continue calculating with {solution}: , or 'n' to restart") == "y":
        num1 = solution
    else:
        on = False
        calculator()

calculator()

maybe helps you

this was my first calculator

[torpid cradle]

...

[torpid cradle]

you could use the type() function,

like:
if x.type() != float:
print("This is not a number) or smth like thatz

I hope it helps you I am still a beginner

[crude crescent]

fr

[obsidian cape]

also you can use isinstance function. isinstance(object, type) example: isinstance(5, int)

[obsidian cape]

but there is no attribute type, there is function type(object) that return object type

[primal bison]

Hellurr

[nimble belfry]

hello people

[silver granite]

Hi people

[ebon dragon]

bitchinn

[fickle frost]

lol

[gentle kite]

‘

[primal bison]

sup

[astral wren]

thanks alot

[astral wren]

let me try and see

[astral wren]

that a good idea

[odd crown]

Does anyone know how connecting a pptp gateway to a vpn server or proxy works? Perhaps there are some libraries for switching via a json file

[primal bison]

anyone interested in bug bounty hunting and I need a companion while I'm learning this

[median tiger]

hello

Why can't I talk in the voice chat 0 channel?

[maiden maple]

#voice-verification

[astral wren]

i use but it gave me an error

[primal bison]

0_O

[muted eagle]

Why cant I share screen on LiveCoding

[night lily]

Screen sharing permissions are available on request of voice-regular moderator-level-and-above users at their discretion. Ask when you see them already present in the voice chats.

The reason for this restriction is previous abuses rendered open access to streaming in the server untenable.

[vale sage]

-_-

[fast sentinel]

How do I get access to speak in voice?

I've been in this server for years!

But I guess I haven't messaged much

At all.

How do I see how many messages I got?

@void talon

@primal bison

[primal bison]

#voice-verification

[fast sentinel]

I don't have 50 messages

Okay so I have 43?

Oh, sorry. Wrong channel.

[warped escarp]

main.py type args

[vapid saffron]

click

[finite linden]

python main.py arg1 arg2 arg3

[warped escarp]

main.py arg1,arg2,arg3

[vapid saffron]

import click

@click.command()
@click.option('--count', default=1, help='Number of greetings.')
@click.option('--name', prompt='Your name',
              help='The person to greet.')
def hello(count, name):
    """Simple program that greets NAME for a total of COUNT times."""
    for x in range(count):
        click.echo(f"Hello {name}!")

if __name__ == '__main__':
    hello()

def foo(func):
   def wrapper(*args, **kwargs):
      print('hello from wrapper')
      return func(args, kwargs)
   return wrapper

@foo
def hi(*args, **kwargs):
   print("hello froom function")

[finite linden]

``import sys

def main(args):
if len(args) < 3:
print("Usage: python main.py arg1 arg2 arg3")
sys.exit(1)

print(f"Argument 1: {args[0]}")
print(f"Argument 2: {args[1]}")
print(f"Argument 3: {args[2]}")

if name == "main":
main(sys.argv[1:])
``

[untold moss]

are you guys saying anything ?

[vapid saffron]

yes'

[untold moss]

why can't i hear then

[unborn sorrel]

Check your sound settings

[untold moss]

done bro, my settings were off, now i can hear

[vapid saffron]

https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv

https://github.com/pypa/pipx

[unborn sorrel]

!ban 1057973172529528872 Racism is not tolerated

[timid fjord]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @lime basin permanently.

[unborn sorrel]

We hear you @warped escarp

[vapid saffron]

first check discord's output, then windows.

i can hear you

[warped escarp]

WslRegisterDistribution failed with error: 0x8004032d
Error: 0x8004032d (null)
Press any key to continue...

[cursive meteor]

@night lily i havent talked to you in ages how are you

[weak bloom]

wratesyrftigulhi;jo'kp

[ocean zealot]

!screenshare

[warm umbra]

can I say everyone

?

[night lily]

I think you just did, though if you mean the @ everyone thing, it won't ping everyone and you'll get told off by the bot, which I think pings the mods.

[hollow mesa]

But you don't hear me buddy,
I was making a complex program u didn't listen to me.

[still peak]

bruh

[tight ridge]

encrypted = Ac5QACw1ZfR9H7buiBzEoaiVkejr3IKqAV9I2U8SWMsqc6omHGYKkmku+KMNjl/+vZ3cenX7W5OWH3RUkIgaLvUr7kX1bvJakBtHMt7ZFa63scTeDpASxSL16xF+k8NMeLbpH8HBM9sKlg==

pub key = bf068f6671aba421870d94d144c37161fd382ef36112f2c6079f4831979c056b

how to decrypt that aes_gcm please

[vale crag]

But why

[still peak]

?

[patent sable]

Hello

Whos online

[full bone]

not me

[little sequoia]

anyone got proxy scraper tool? or where can i get free proxies/buy

[hushed delta]

interstellar, on github

[remote wadi]

how to join people who are in room

[queen temple]

hii guyss

[spiral prairie]

hello i cant talk xP

[sick mountain]

go to #voice-verification

[oblique sand]

Hey anyone kind enough to provide me some resources on how to learn data structures with python?

[toxic grove]

Hi

[obtuse nacelle]

Hey

[primal bison]

little known website called youtube idk if you heard of it

its kind of niche

[night lily]

!resources

[timid fjord]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[night lily]

Here's the standard information we give to people asking about learning Python. Now, as for data structures and algorithms, let me have a look to see if that's at all pertinent.

Hm, yes. There is a data structures and algorithms component.

Good.

[night lily]

While reading documentation and information is a skill to be recommended and learned, there are kindly ways of recommending it and there are less kindly ways.

🙂

Tact is an exercise in social lubrication.

[gentle slate]

Hello everyone! I just joined. Looking forward to contributing to the community.

and learn.

[terse wharf]

bro

[timid fjord]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @terse wharf until <t:1725457619:f> (10 minutes) (reason: burst spam - sent 8 messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[toxic grove]

is any one share his/him code ?

or is there any time like event ?

[night lily]

@hollow blade 👋

[dull anvil]

@neon portal I have more funny CSS:

.something {
    --two: 1 + 1;
    --three: var(--two) * 2;
    --four: (var(--two)) * 2;
}

[neon portal]

Teehe

[delicate vector]

x = float (input ('Βαλε θεση'))

how can I make it if they say 1 to print a text?

x = float (input ('Βαλε θεση'))
if x = 1:
print ('Περασες')

is that right?

[shell schooner]

I think it will be this:

x = float (input ('Βαλε θεση (1): '))
if x = 1:
print ('Περασες')

you have to add 1 in the initial input

also add double equal marks

@delicate vector here this works:

[timid fjord]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied timeout to @hallow thunder until <t:1725584059:f> (10 minutes) (reason: duplicates spam - sent 4 duplicate messages).

The <@&831776746206265384> have been alerted for review.

[echo eagle]

Do you use py charm also

[shell schooner]

yep

[echo eagle]

Preofessinal or community

[shell schooner]

community

I'm broke 😅

[echo eagle]

Same

[shell schooner]

and you?

lol its nice honestly

when I have enough cash I'll buy professional

to support the developers

[whole portal]

Hi. I.need some one for help . Statistic and econometrics with python

[ember saddle]

lol me aswell

[ember saddle]

same issues

[woven marten]

brb

[empty gale]

no permission

[stuck nacelle]

Hey, can anyone here help live with a script im triyng to run?

My terminal is struggling to find tesseract

[jaunty mist]

How can I make an explorable map in pygame?

like one where as soon as you start going off screen, the map expands

or the map follows the sprite

?

[faint cloud]

рп

[gloomy tartan]

hello, i need help with a counter strafe script, can i enter voice ?

[maiden maple]

don't need to ask to enter voice

It is public vc

[gloomy tartan]

i don't have permission to talk, it seems ...

hello 🙂

if you push the power button, do the cooler start to rotate?

i mean the interior ventilator

if not, that means the power supply is not working

[maiden maple]

@gusty heart tell your problem here

[dull anvil]

@fallen topaz buy it

I think by the first time I opened Turing Complete, I didn't know about Godot yet

[unkempt escarp]

Good saturday morning my coders from another bug 😄 ❤️

[neon portal]

I haven't used pygame but I would imagine you would make the camera object have a boundary condition (boundary condition is when the sprite goes out of the screen, for OG games they used to loop back from the other side of the scree) to move further to one direction.

[unkempt escarp]

this might be a stupid question but im just asking for a simple answear. if i want to take part in the AI revolution. let's say i want too further develope on AI within chatbot. and i use a pre trained model like gpt2 from transformers/pytorch or whatever. is it possible for me too add deep learning functions into my gp2 model too customise it better then lets just say gpt4 (im not saying i can do that, far from) but could anyone participate like that if they (did have the experience)

[neon portal]

I'm not following, do you want to fine-tune a gpt model you mean?

If so, yeah sure, but it takes hundreds of hours of GPU times, which gets really expensive for an individual.

[dull anvil]

fine-tuning an existing model may give you better results than more advanced general ones, yes

[grizzled plaza]

Oh

[dull anvil]

afaik fine-tuning and some other adjustments can be done relatively cheaply

tbf "hundreds of hours" is relatively cheaply compared to training from 0

[neon portal]

Yes, but relatively cheap for a company, not a single person.

[unkempt escarp]

Yea i want too fine tune it too become good at one specific area that's right. im doing that. kinda testing for fun. and im very new too python and AI so jumping right too my question is wrong iknow but i just want too know if i (hyptecnically had the experience) could i just add deep learning code, or invent some code into my gp2 model and its possible too make it better then a gpt 4. like or is it some sort of base code i can't access and i will never create anything better then a gpt4 model using gpt 2

[dull anvil]

by now you should probably be using something like ollama, not gpt2

[unkempt escarp]

okay thanks so i can take part of the ai revolution by being creative with a gpt 2 model and not being part of a big firm even tho that would have better odds

thanks

[neon portal]

Deep learning code sounds a bit too vague, have a look at fine-tuning llms to see how it's done at a Layman level. You can definitely fine-tune open-source LLMs and GPTs, but as I said you have to consider the hardware cost as well.

[unkempt escarp]

okay thank you A.C

[neon portal]

This as well, ollama seems like a better choice for importing and using these models.

[last zenith]

bro do anyone know how can i get api of any anime website

[dull anvil]

afaik there are models that are smaller and better than GPT2

[misty current]

here is a tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCc8FmEb1nY&list=PLAqhIrjkxbuWI23v9cThsA9GvCAUhRvKZ&index=8

[dull anvil]

read that website's API documentation

[unkempt escarp]

thanks!

for answears

[dull anvil]

to the point where Google are trying to embed AI into Chrome

that one isn't necessarily better than GPT2 but still good enough to run on-CPU in-browser

[neon portal]

Definitely. Have a look at HuggingFace, check for 1.5B parameter models, and look at the benchmark results. They show a good measure of how useful a given model is for a given task.

[dull anvil]

and good enough at that as to not be a total embarrassment to the company

@fallen topaz many of them depend on blockchain machinery

normally you'd test them on a temporary local chain, or on some even more limited environment if possible

note that most cryptobro projects pick Rust because they see it as hype not for actual characteristics

[hushed cloud]

Hmm you must prefer Solidity?

@dull anvil

Seems like we both have same side projects 😉

[dull anvil]

I'm radically opposed to ever working on a cryptocurrency projects that don't use an unbounded (by width) semi-lattice for state history

until the industry recognises that "chain" is fundamentally the wrong approach, I'm not going there

serialised transaction history works well enough only in centralised setting

Ethereum are experimenting with non-serial history for block rewards

[hushed cloud]

I think there was a project prior also that did semi-lattice

[unkempt escarp]

2 nice crypto projects i believe in. pulsechain and kaspa, i was in the first week of kaspa, no im not rich i FK up. anyways that's another story. people are so fixed on crypto chains, people don't realise that the new created projects that are real and not a scam with a background check is the once that is capable of doing well. BTC is just alot of aura and just popular cause its well known? or is btc still the best code, i dont beleive that?

[hushed cloud]

BTC is due to security in relations to preventing a attack through PoW vs other consensus concepts developed

[unkempt escarp]

i see

[hushed cloud]

BTC is there cause its slow but secure

while other projects are testing around

[dull anvil]

note that BTC's slowness isn't because of security but because of corporate influence on the protocol voting process

[unkempt escarp]

Yea because experience create better stuff and after btc people have learned alot of experience, so that's why i think investing in newly created good developing project is the best

but it would be unlocig too think otherwise cause of it evolving so mutch. its like having an iphone 5 and iphone 13, both doo the samething but old and new tec

[dull anvil]

BTC and Ethereum both have mechanism for protocol upgrades

almost anything that survived for a considerable time does

[hushed cloud]

Ehh when it comes to the storage of money what they want is something that is sound and secure like BTC, BTC can be upgraded yes but it won't do so without exceptional testing, you can cross-chain you have SOL as well after FireDancer your going to see SOL touching on different areas quicker honestly

So I see @dull anvil is team ETH while I am team SOL 😉

[unkempt escarp]

well im team kaspa and pulsechain. man im exited about AI's future, we either enxtinct our self or we travel too the future of 1000 years.

[dull anvil]

I would never touch Ethereum, the whole premise of decentralisation and reliability has long been broken

[unkempt escarp]

alisa read on pulsechain the difference from eth

[dull anvil]

I'd rather wait another 10~20 years than go back to doing anything with cryptocurrencies

the only one I might ever need in near future is Monero

how tf did I misclick that

[unkempt escarp]

😄

[dull anvil]

(I was trying to click on an empty space but someone left VC so that empty space got replaced with AFK channel)

[unkempt escarp]

hmm life be like that sometimes

[hushed cloud]

Hmm Monero lol

Privacy Reasons?

Thought it was trackable

[unkempt escarp]

i thought soo too, it was known for not being trackable

[dull anvil]

under right circumstances, all cryptocurrencies are trackable

Monero is just more open about what threats they do and don't mitigate

if users are careless enough, the whole chain is under risk

[hushed cloud]

@dull anvil

While the semi-lattice model could, in theory, scale better than chain-based systems, it introduces many points where security could be compromised, either through the introduction of bugs or through malicious actors exploiting the structure's inherent complexity. Blockchain security relies heavily on simplicity, determinism, and cryptographic verification, and introducing a non-linear structure undermines some of those security guarantees.```

What do you say on this statement?

[dull anvil]

> blockchain
> determinism

the only actual real concern is double-spending on merge of diverging forks

[hushed cloud]

There's a project that was working on merkle tress as concensus wasn't there a long time ago

What happened to that project can't recall the name rn

Started with like H or something

@dull anvil but my point is around 51% attack Semi-Lattuce walks away from that isn't it introducting the same problem as sharding in a sense?

In a semi-lattice, the system sacrifices this unity of validation for efficiency through parallel processing, but at the cost of splitting the validation effort across multiple paths. 

If a path is only being validated by 10% of the total network, an attacker might need to control only 6% of the overall validators (rather than 51%) to compromise that path.```

[dull anvil]

second paragraph is not true

you don't need to opt out of full verification in a non-linear history

nor are you required to validate everything in a chain by design

[dull anvil]

shallow verifiability is another part

assuming all previous nodes (akin to parent commits in Git) are valid, it must be very cheap to validate a new node

full history must not be required for the process

thus you only need to store hashes of nodes you verified

and their contents you fetch from untrusted sources

(each blob is hash-addressed and you validate it by recomputing the hash and comparing upon fetch)

[dull anvil]

is this AI or quoting from somewhere?

[hushed cloud]

AI with my own words and knowledge, but now going back to full validation which is the first thing I look for in a blockchain what about this point

In theory, the parallel processing capability of a semi-lattice model suggests faster transaction throughput, but in practice, it can lead to delays when merging the parallel transaction paths back into a unified state. If we take into account that all validators (or even subsets of validators) still need to reach agreement, this merging process could offset the potential speed gains from parallelism, leading to a result that may not be significantly quicker than a traditional linear model.```

[dull anvil]

speed and parallelism is completely irrelevant, you can do that with a chain too

[hushed cloud]

I mean if not speed and security why go the route of Semi-Lattice?

[dull anvil]

allowing for graceful forking and merging

[hushed cloud]

If all validators must participate in the validation process, whether in a semi-lattice or a linear model, both systems still require full consensus at key points. This means that the ultimate speed is governed by the slowest step in reaching consensus—whether it’s processing blocks sequentially (in a linear model) or merging states (in a semi-lattice model).

The core issue is that if all validators must reach agreement on the final state, the time it takes to gather and verify the data from different paths (in the semi-lattice model) could end up taking as long, if not longer, than sequentially validating blocks in a linear model.

Ah ok for graceful forking and merging

But it doesn't seem like a huge importance really rn with core issues but yeah

Over-Engineering for Rare Problems: While the semi-lattice model’s ability to handle multiple paths, forks, and merges might sound like an advantage, you’re right that this is a rare use case in blockchain. Most blockchains don’t need to support multiple paths at once because their primary goal is to maintain a single source of truth. Forks are typically seen as anomalies to be avoided, not features to be encouraged.

Added Complexity Without Clear Benefits: The merging process, parallel transaction paths, and the need for validators to resolve divergent states add unnecessary complexity to what is otherwise a straightforward system. If blockchains are built around the idea of a single chain of trust, why introduce a system where multiple chains can exist temporarily, only to be merged later? The overhead of managing this complexity could, in practice, negate any potential scalability benefits.```

Why the Linear Approach Works
Finality and Clarity: A linear model ensures that once a block is added to the chain, it’s final, and all participants in the network can agree on the state of the ledger. There’s no ambiguity about which chain is “true.”

Simplicity = Security: By keeping transaction history linear and sequential, the security model is simpler and more robust. Each block builds on the previous one, and validators focus on one unified history, reducing the chances of bugs or attacks.

Forks Are Solved Efficiently: Even in the event of a fork (which can happen, especially in systems like Proof of Work), most blockchains have mechanisms to resolve them quickly by discarding the shorter or incorrect chain. This approach is simpler and more efficient than maintaining multiple paths that need to be merged later.

Honestly glad ETH is working on Semi-Lattice seems like they are wasting time again and fell into a trap

[dull anvil]

one of the ways to achieve that is to store the index (in DB sense) as part of the structure

[dull anvil]

> There’s no ambiguity about which chain is “true.”
this is called naïvety lmao

also known as not understanding the fundamentals of distributed systems

I've seen humans make the same claim

(as in not only AI can produce this level of faith in magic)

[hushed cloud]

In the end you decide which chain is true and which isn't

You choose which path to follow

Based on others who have obtained the same results as you

[dull anvil]

yes, ambiguity exists and needs to be resolved dynamically

network partitions can and will happen; forks can and will grow arbitrarily diverged

[hushed cloud]

Honestly ETH has a lot more other stuff to figure out thought then to play with Semi-Lattice it doesn't seem that important right now your talking about like the last thing someone would want to look at in blockchain tech?

ETH starts playing with semi-lattice lol they ain't going to recover from it especially with shards and etc etc

It's just going to be all bad

[dull anvil]

just burn it all down already

cryptocurrencies were always mistake

(only half-joke)

[hushed cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-jigsaw-puzzle-smash-gif-16752652

This would be ETH working on Semi-Lattice rn 😅

[dull anvil]

if it makes ETH die, then even better

it won't work for them also because contracts assume linearity

CAP-Theorem-Violation-as-an-Industry

[hushed cloud]

I want a drink to go with coding today qq

[dull anvil]

I would put an "unless I get paid a lot of money for it" there but unfortunately I know that not paying employees is the norm in that space

right now busy doing absolutely nothing

I would continue developing the project adjacent to this all if I didn't find many better uses for the tooling and underlying libraries I made along the way

[dull anvil]

@violet wing non-compete agreement?

aren't those banned in Europe?

[violet wing]

I dont know

it is stated that I cannot do other kind of work

[dull anvil]

though these are more about not working even after you leave the job

[violet wing]

I am not alloweed to work for my competitors 2 years after I quit my job

[dull anvil]

ah, it's not a member of EU

so there seems like non-competes are slightly more legal

(EU restricts them)

[violet wing]

i have given up on my rights

in the end we are slave to money and our bosses

I have seen that you can tell your bosses your rights and then he will start emotionally isolate you

In Norway they use crazy amount of emotional weapons

the weapons they are using is to elusive that you cannot directly pinpoint

[dull anvil]

legal communication should be through a lawyer if you can afford one;
talking to the company's lawyer if you're sure they're infringing on your rights is a suboptimal strategy

this is more about freelance than direct employment, but still useful:
https://youtu.be/jVkLVRt6c1U

[violet wing]

HR and company lawyers are there to protect the company

[dull anvil]

(and that's why you'll have to hire a lawyer when things come to legal disputes, to protect you)

[violet wing]

I feel like it is easier to walk away

why fight, just go away and find something better

[dull anvil]

yeah, only fight back if they are the ones starting obnoxious actions (refusing to pay, claiming non-compete infringement, etc.)

[dull anvil]

((and if that lawyer tells you the company is in the right, find a more capable one))

@slate axle what tech stack have you chosen for that project so far? (if any commitments on that have been made already/what are you considering using)

[hushed cloud]

Got it 😁

[dull anvil]

@vagrant quarry I have stuff to test the AI on but I have no access to the AI

idk what robustness requirements are for your program, but what you described didn't sound like a good fit for Python if you have high correctness requirements

I wonder if AI brought that up too

for testing AI it's fine, yeah

[dull anvil]

(just this is the question)

[hushed cloud]

@hallow jasper can you provide stream access to @vagrant quarry really quick over here with @dull anvil wanting to see live coding help in #off-topic-lounge-text

[dull anvil]

I suggest not pinging mods/admins

[hallow jasper]

i cannot lol

i am not a moderator

bot won't even let me

[hushed cloud]

Ah ok thank you

[dull anvil]

did the voice server die

[vagrant quarry]

i dont think so

[dull anvil]

or was is just me

[vagrant quarry]

might be you

[dull anvil]

benchmarking everything on these
https://parrrate.github.io/exercises/

waiting for AI to be able to solve at least ~5 of them without much guidance

so far the record is around 2

these four I've seen AI pass

[dull anvil]

hmm
this is something new

wow that was fast

but wrong

[vagrant quarry]

This is a quick example to show the services talking to each other. In this example I have 4 processes; a time service, a signal generation service, a time controller app, and a plotting app.

[dull anvil]

I'm testing on this https://exercises.parrrate.ru/exercises/bool_stream.html

I wonder where it got 1.68 from

I'm quite sure it's 1.58 lol

@vagrant quarry you can turn all the state transition into a function of this form:

def transition(
    world: World,
    previous_time: datetime,
    next_time: datetime,
) -> World: ...

(this might sound memory inefficient but that's a concern for future optimisations, and might just be good enough forever)

[dull anvil]

that's almost how I made it for the PvP minesweeper

the key thing is to have all the access to time extracted, so simulation is just a (somewhat complex) state machine

[vagrant quarry]

yes

[dull anvil]

I don't remember who it was but there's quite a good video about how using radar/sonar for detection relates to Fourier transforms and uncertainty stuff

just like in quantum you can only know well enough one of position or speed

(tradeoff-ish)

[vagrant quarry]

depends onthe signal you use

[dull anvil]

yeah

iirc
short signal -> position
long signal -> speed

and also both measurements are outdated regardless of signal travel

I've learned some amount of quantum mechanics in school, and this is somewhat related

[vagrant quarry]

Imagine this:

Here, the red ring indicates the position of the signal (width = 5 seconds of travel time), and the blue rings indicate the position of the reflections off the targets (width = 5 seconds of travel time)

I want the position of the targets to be unknown to the "ship" (i.e. the transmitter / receiver pairs).

But when the reflection is received, the time it took and the direction the reflections are coming from is available

In this app, everything is pre-determined; I load in a scenario and can traverse through time

I want to create an app that does this in real (or sped up) time.

This is why I'm repurposing a distributed application framework I previously wrote like 2 years ago; I am creating a time controller that posts the current time (like what Alisa Feistel suggested), and then I need a simulation engine to create the acoustic data that the receiver would pick up.

I want to be able to distribute the simulation load, while also distributing the signal processing required to turn the acoustic data into usable information, like "Oh I found a reflection coming from the south that took 3 seconds to travel to me. Target must be located at position X"

[dull anvil]

impl Game {
    pub fn handle(
        // Mutate in-place because we don't have interdependent state:
        &mut self,

        player: Active,            // Which player,
        action: Action,            // does what action,
        instant: Instant,          // at what time.

        // Callback for events:
        events: impl FnMut(Event),
    ) {
        /* ... */
    }
}

yes

Python has useful libraries like numpy

[dull anvil]

over WebSockets, I've seen this process around 100K messages per second (with JSON processing for actions and events)

you can also embed Rust into Python for compute-heavy things

there's a relatively easy way to generate Python bindings to Rust

which is also GIL-aware

(as in it knows when it can and cannot do something with GIL released)

py.allow_threads(|| {
    /* here GIL isn't held */
});

Python::with_gil(|py| {
    /* here GIL is held */
});

I only know that Docker on Mac does indeed have some installation/operation nuances

as for how to resolve those -- idk

what's hdiutil

[primal bison]

https://nerd-bear.org/projects/pyweek-38/

[dull anvil]

S in SSH stands for
go to Sleep

[dull anvil]

htop is lagging so hard

[primal bison]

who is htop

[dull anvil]

I might be doing something wrong about my deployment practices

[dull anvil]

htop is the htop 1 program that shows up when you run htop

CSS is fun until the browser is outdated

[primal bison]

https://tenor.com/view/powrót-do-przyszłości-car-neon-light-gif-14643317

[dull anvil]

waiting for php to show up there

php-fmp: pool on its way to starve the system out of resources

okay it's not as bad anymore now that I'm sending data three times less frequently

!paste

[timid fjord]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[vagrant quarry]

x = v*t

[dull anvil]

me in my happy world where databases are not my concern

JS is just doing its mediocrest to make type coercion work

more consistent than it seems

[primal bison]

me in a not so happy world working with SQLite, PostgreSQL and javascript (React native with tailwindcss)

[dull anvil]

empty object not set

`${}` is just f"{}"

btw

` behaviour is customiseable

which is how you get

async function insertUser({ name, age }) {
  const users = await sql`
    insert into users
      (name, age)
    values
      (${ name }, ${ age })
    returning name, age
  `
  return users
}

without SQL injection issues

https://github.com/porsager/postgres

in Python, afaik, this is impossible

in C# it's possible but impractical

you can put any function before `

and then all the fragments and values get passed in as arguments

so you get

console.log(['1', '3', '5'], 2, 4)

tailwind integrates into the build process

which is the difficult part, mostly solved by [not you] (bundlers and npm themselves)

[dull anvil]

lmao

what a funny graph

[primal bison]

!kinling

!kindling

[timid fjord]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[primal bison]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-man-megaman-shoot-your-gif-14877225

[dull anvil]

2001

hmm

[primal bison]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-kylo-ren-its-time-to-let-old-things-die-let-the-past-die-let-the-past-go-gif-21938539

[dull anvil]

"probably whether the code exists at all should be included in measuring if it's good"

[primal bison]

This is part of our private discord announcement

@full bone

https://tenor.com/view/machine-learning-artificial-intelligence-gif-24276483

[dull anvil]

most secure

[primal bison]

@full bone

[dull anvil]

you run this flash app and it installs Kaspersky Antivirus on your system without you even clicking anything

[primal bison]

# prints hello world
print("Hello world!")

[dull anvil]

Oracle version

print("Hello World!")  # Display the string.

[primal bison]

class SneakyOutput:
    def __init__(self, message):
        self.message = message
    
    def __repr__(self):
        return self.message

exec("SneakyOutput('Hello World')")```

[dull anvil]

thanks, AI, for repeating the same thing

[primal bison]

_=(lambda x:x);code=type(_.__code__);_.__code__=code(0,0,0,0,0,0,b'\x97\x00d\x00d\x01l\x00Z\x00d\x00d\x01l\x01Z\x01d\x00d\x02l\x02m\x03Z\x03\x01\x00G\x00d\x03d\x04\x84\x00d\x04\x83\x03Z\x04e\x03e\x04_\x05d\x05d\x06\x84\x00Z\x06e\x07e\x06\x83\x01\x01\x00e\x08d\x07\x83\x01D\x00]\x0bZ\te\ne\x0bd\x08\x83\x01\x83\x01\x01\x00q(e\x00\xa0\x0c\xa1\x00\x01\x00d\x01S\x00',(),(),(),(),'','',(),())
eval(compile(_.__code__, "<string>", "exec"))

[dull anvil]

the fast dumb model

I'm not logged in

wait is it auto-inferred from the browser

I'm viewing that through Tor

okay back to Rust exercises

[primal bison]

import base64
(lambda __, ___, ____, _____, ______, _______, ________:
    getattr(
        __import__(True.__class__.__name__[_] + [].__class__.__name__[__]),
        ().__class__.__eq__.__class__.__name__[:__] +
        ().__iter__().__class__.__name__[_____:________]
    )(
        ______(base64.b64decode(((lambda _, __, ___: _(_, __, ___))(
            lambda _, __, ___:
                bytes([___ % __]) + _(_, __, ___ // __) if ___ else
                (lambda: _).func_code.co_lnotab,
            _ << ________,
            (((_____ << ______) + _) << ((___ << _____) - ___)) + (((((___ << __)
            - _) << ___) + _) << ((_____ << ____) + (_ << _))) + (((_______ <<
            __) - _) << (((((_ << ___) + _)) << ___) + (_ << _))) + (((_______
            << ___) + _) << ((_ << ______) + _)) + (((_______ << ____) - _) <<
            ((_______ << ___))) + (((_ << ____) - _) << ((((___ << __) + _) <<
            __) - _)) - (_______ << ((((___ << __) - _) << __) + _)) + (_______
            << (((((_ << ___) + _)) << __))) - ((((((_ << ___) + _)) << __) +
            _) << ((((___ << __) + _) << _))) + (((_______ << __) - _) <<
            (((((_ << ___) + _)) << _))) + (((___ << ___) + _) << ((_____ <<
            _))) + (_____ << ______) + (_ << ___)
        ))))
    )
)(
    *(lambda _, __, ___: _(_, __, ___))(
        (lambda _, __, ___:
            [__(___[(lambda: _).func_code.co_nlocals])] +
            _(_, __, ___[(lambda _: _).func_code.co_nlocals:]) if ___ else []
        ),
        lambda _: _.func_code.co_argcount,
        (
            lambda _: _,
lambda _, __: _,
lambda _, __, ___: _,
lambda _, __, ___, ____: _,
lambda _, __, ___, ____, _____: _,
lambda _, __, ___, ____, _____, ______: _,
lambda _, __, ___, ____, _____, ______, _______: _ lambda _, __, ___, ____, _____, ______, _______, ________: _)))

[dull anvil]

hmm
which do I do next

okay it's competent enough to make RcChars

without unsafe

this time

[primal bison]

https://tenor.com/view/2a-2-a-2nd-amendment-benjammins-right-to-bear-arms-gif-13026468012319803475

[dull anvil]

I can't login to claude website

and for self-hosted I don't have CUDA-able GPU

[dull anvil]

@primal bison wouldn't three hours to respond be suboptimal given timezones?

huh
the AI doesn't know about Vec::append

it has a somewhat unusual signature

append(&mut self, other: &mut Self)

alleged by AI

and apparently true

whereas extend takes arbitrary iterable

so this ig counts as a pass

bad solution but okay

for this one
https://parrrate.github.io/exercises/exercises/anystr.html

okay this is a complete regression

it does not understand Fn vs FnOnce

what a loser model wtf

where's the FnOnce

[meager oak]

XD

[dull anvil]

okay this literally feels like trying to explain to a junior that can't learn

it took me literally writing out code so it could understand where to put extra lifetime

[hollow wyvern]

is that GPT 4o or o1?

[dull anvil]

the dumber but faster one (4o mini)

so it doesn't really outshine GPT 3 (not even 3.5) in terms of knowledge overall

unsurprising, given the reduced size, if I understand correctly that mini stands for, well, mini

[hollow wyvern]

Can you try this with O1 preview? It’s the new model that just came out if you have gpt plus you already have it. I don’t know how much better it is but I would like to see how it does.

[dull anvil]

I'm not paying for any of ClosedAI

[hollow wyvern]

Well I don’t know how much better it is with problems like this one. Looking at the benchmarks it’s super good. But this is just a preview not the full o1 model they will release later

[hollow wyvern]

Oh

[hollow wyvern]

Can you give me what you asked gpt

[hollow wyvern]

Earlier

[dull anvil]

exercise that phind.com aced first-try without hints and compiler output
https://parrrate.github.io/exercises/exercises/bind.html