pyweek-game-jam

[viscid cloud]

i remember teh rules stating the the game logic should be coded during the jam

what does this exactly mean?

does it mean something like collisions should be coded during the jam or before it

?

[proud ruin]

Hey @viscid cloud!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[viscid cloud]

if i had an engine like this one, would it be fine?

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ehumibumar.rb

[hybrid pike]

The exact rules are on the website: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#entries-are-to-be-written-from-scratch

basically: document it properly, publish it as open source a month or more before PyWeek, and don't implement specific game logic (i.e. make a framework, not a game)

[viscid cloud]

isn't a framework pretty much the same as an engine though?

[hybrid pike]

Pretty much, yes.

[viscid cloud]

sorry if im annoying you again, but, basically what your saying is, some thing like collisions in the framework is completely fine? as long as it does not have something like if collisions == true make the character dance or something? but it can have simple collisions, am i right?

Thank You Very Much In Advance!

[hybrid pike]

Yes!

[ruby quarry]

yea

[lusty wasp]

@viscid cloud by game logic it is meant logic specific to a particular game, I think. The point is that the library code should be able to be used by any other entrants as well. A general-purpose collision library doesn't fall under game logic.

[vestal tangle]

hi

[dense sundial]

when is the next game jam starting?

[lusty wasp]

It's not yet known, I think

[dense sundial]

ok

[rare lynx]

can anyone understand me what is game-jam

[random sinew]

It is a short event during which you have to make a game around a theme, given by the organizers

[rare lynx]

is there any jams right now

which going on

[random sinew]

Not sure, next PyWeek will be in March, I don't know about other game jams, but I'm sure you could find some online

[lusty wasp]

There are always jams going on: https://itch.io/jams

[thick minnow]

Hi.. So let's say I am new to game development with python (not new to python), where do I start so that I may take oart in the next game jam?

[onyx basin]

You could do a tutorial using arcade or pygame. They have good tutorials.

Setting up the game loop, animations, and physics engine have their intricacies but it's pretty straight forward if you are familiar with oop.

@thick minnow

[dull quartz]

@coral mist hi man

[warm nimbus]

is this fun

[dreamy tapir]

when is the next game jam?

[onyx basin]

idk

[leaden kettle]

#pyweek-game-jam message

[clear turret]

#python-discussion

[elder sun]

pygame is really good

[tiny mesa]

"March 2021" 🙂

[pale brook]

...

[south fable]

last 5 msgs 5 different odd dates lool

[lavish comet]

lets keep that goin then

[royal coyote]

hey

any events are going or what
i wanna participate
can I

Plz tell

[modern dust]

did an even start yet?

[wicked robin]

tkinter

[wicked robin]

agreed

[proud ruin]

Hey @wicked robin! I noticed you posted a seemingly valid Discord API token in your message and have removed your message. This means that your token has been compromised. Please change your token immediately at: https://discordapp.com/developers/applications/me

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[wicked robin]

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` Why is this not working

[pearl oxide]

not the right channel

#discord-bots or #❓｜how-to-get-help

[elder sun]

put your token in client.run("")

[clear turret]

hi all i am sai prabhav i want to participate in pyweek but dont know how to can some one help me start plz....

[onyx basin]

check thet pings... in ended ig

[clear turret]

is the next jam not startewd

[onyx basin]

also check the channel description

[clear turret]

where is it

[onyx basin]

smh nvm here
PyWeek 30 is over! Try the entries at: https://pyweek.org/30/entries | PyWeek 31 coming March 2021 | PyWeek Game Programming Challenge | https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[clear turret]

ok

i thought we have a game jam every week as name was pyweek

[onyx basin]

anyone here planning to join pyweek and forming a team? i don't really have any experience with pygame, but if you're willing to include someone who's looking for experience, feel free to dm me 😄 .

[tepid topaz]

can i make a text based game as a discord bot and then submit it?

[onyx basin]

it is the truth

[pale escarp]

what is this channel bout

[pale escarp]

oh nvm

[random sinew]

It is about the PyWeek game jam!

[pale escarp]

yeah what is it

hackathon kinda?

[random sinew]

A binanual Python game jam

[pale escarp]

game jam?

[random sinew]

You have one week to create a python game

[pale escarp]

1 week lol

alr thx

[onyx basin]

👁️

[autumn cobalt]

that would be every two years, whereas it's twice a year. So semiannual, yes?

[random sinew]

It is written bi-annual on their website

[modern dust]

if it's bi-annual will the next one be in spring?

[gusty hearth]

The title says March 31 2021 I think :D

[modern dust]

oh cool

[elder oyster]

hello

[split kestrel]

Hi.

[indigo portal]

what's this?

[topaz scarab]

i didnt know python had game jam

pretty cool

[polar torrent]

so its called pyweek bc the competition lasts 1 week not bc theres one every week?

i feel like that name can be misleading

[hybrid pike]

I don't think it's misleading. Your birthday (or any holiday) is also a day, you don't have one every day.
Also, discussion about the name is about 15 years too late...

[wet dirge]

Are there regularly events by this server? I have only participated in Advent of Code

[pearl oxide]

Code jams

[visual glen]

We do try to organise regular events and we'd normally have a code jam right about now. However, our old format didn't scale well given our recent growth and we're currently working on making it more scalable. We've recently attracted an Events Lead who's planning to set up more regular events and make sure things like Code Jams are actually doable.

[random sinew]

Hey @woeful tree, the SSL certificate for pyweek.org has expired

[fickle patio]

what's game jam??

[raw sandal]

is the date for the next pyweek already known? @woeful tree ?

[past nebula]

There is a topic given and you need to make a game based on that theme

[fickle patio]

Oh wow. And thanks for explaining

[onyx basin]

Has the jam started

[modern dust]

it'll start in March

[pearl oxide]

https://pyweek.org/ and https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Please have a look at these two sites before asking your questions 😄

[ancient pumice]

idk if relevant, but pyweek.org gives me a safety warning. i will ignore it ofc but maybe something should be fixed about iy

Websites bestätigen ihre Identität mittels Zertifikaten, welche für einen bestimmten Zeitraum gültig sind. Das Zertifikat für pyweek.org ist am 29.1.2021 abgelaufen.
 
Fehlercode: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE
 
Zertifikat anzeigen

bla bla bla certificate expired on the 29th of january 2021

@woeful tree sorry for the ping but it appears you are the authority on this that might fix this

[pearl oxide]

SSL certificate for pyweek.org has expired

it is known

[flint steeple]

umm

[bitter wing]

The ssl certificate expired. Someone is currently taking care of it

[vapid hatch]

someone share the source code of the snake game pls

[pearl oxide]

!e

print("Do it youself, checkout the help system if you come accross any problems or issue while solving it")

[proud ruin]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[proud ruin]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[strange pasture]

LOL😂

[stray sage]

you can just draw a backend grid with a moving sprite

[boreal dock]

does the game need to be written in python (this is a stupid question but... )

[covert seal]

yes it does

[modern dust]

does the game need to use the pygame module? For example can I use Ursina instead of pygame?

[visual glen]

No, you don't have to use a specific framework or module. What's important is that it's a python event. There's a bit more info here: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#target-platform

[fringe badger]

Hi

[sour hedge]

@visual glen , first of all sorry to mention you but just wanted to ask around how many people take part in this?

[naive mirage]

It says on the most recent jam that there were 45 entries https://pyweek.org/30/entries/ @sour hedge

Some of these would be teams though

And I'm not sure if they all ended up submitting

[sour hedge]

Ah I see

When will I be able to participate?

[naive mirage]

The next one is in march, I'm not sure of the exact dates

[sour hedge]

Thanks

🙂

[onyx basin]

I think there were like 30 submissions in the last one

no, it was the 30th bi annual pyweek

[royal coyote]

But how to participate

[ancient pumice]

they'll probably tell us in February, if it's not on the website

[dark scroll]

wait

is it a pygame game jam?

[sour hedge]

You can use any of libraries in python that can be used to make games(Ursina Engine,arcade,pygame etc.)

[random sinew]

Hello @regal ingot, if you want to talk about your event, please contact us through @lavish cipher (simply DM the bot), it looks quite interesting but it isn't the right channel for that

[gilded bay]

what is subject ? have jam started ?

[cerulean parrot]

Oh thanks! I needed that question answered too.

[lusty wasp]

@gilded bay there is no active PyWeek at the moment. The next date is to be announced.

[austere rain]

so when is the next game jam happening!

[naive mirage]

Some time around March, as was said the dates haven't been announced yet

[regal tiger]

is it for bots or a literal game jam

[tiny mesa]

just to clarify here: the entries page only lists entries with final submissions once the week is over

[gilded bay]

@lusty wasp you are Pyweekchamp could you send me or here your game project?

[lusty wasp]

@gilded bay they are here https://rdb.itch.io/

[ancient pumice]

it might be a bit early for this but when the jam happens, will we be able to form teams from within this discord? as i'm good with python but never made a game before

[gilded bay]

@lusty wasp did you make bbo's Descent with Pygame : O

oh panda3d

[onyx basin]

any russian coders

lol

[onyx basin]

when will Pyweek 31 start?

my game for pyweek 30

https://www.pygame.org/project/5205

[hexed folio]

YO

[visual glen]

The date hasn't been set yet, but we'll try to keep you posted. I think we'll at least post an announcement here in the community when the dates are known.

[onyx basin]

ok, thx

[sour hedge]

This is gonna be my first jam

[ancient pumice]

same same

[onyx basin]

When is it?

[vale apex]

How do I play this

[onyx basin]

U go to the link, press space to begin, press a to start and punch, move around with arrow keys

[humble oak]

What is this channel for?

[atomic lake]

What is the name of this game?

[vale apex]

This one @atomic lake

[atomic lake]

Okay

[daring sleet]

This probably isn't the place to discuss all this...

[vestal tangle]

yeet

[balmy fractal]

How does it shows you the logo of pycharm when you play it and mine it doesn't works......

[vestal tangle]

do you have the discord integration plugin?

[balmy fractal]

No

[vestal tangle]

in ycharm

[balmy fractal]

I do I add it

How*

[vestal tangle]

you have to download it

one sec

[balmy fractal]

Where can I see it?

I was trying to see if discord is getting it, It is but it's not showing me like the symbol of PyCharm & The Python like what you have

[vestal tangle]

go to your settings page and u should see a plugins menu

[balmy fractal]

alr 1 sec

I don't have the option of Discord

Do I need a certain virison if the PyCharm to have this option? @vestal tangle Cause' I am using 2020.3.2

[vestal tangle]

im using 2020.3.3

[balmy fractal]

Oh, So 3.3?

[vestal tangle]

i dont think that will affect it

[balmy fractal]

mhmg

mmh

[vestal tangle]

you have to search in the plugins market place for discord integration

[balmy fractal]

Alright let me try then..

[vestal tangle]

up top there will be a marketplace button

[balmy fractal]

Found it

It doesn't shows me the symbol of discord but

I will download it today when I get back home :3

Oh, Now I see Discord Symbol ye

[vestal tangle]

nice

[balmy fractal]

ty for help man

[vestal tangle]

once u restart pycharm and open a project it should ask you if you want to show it in your discord status

[vestal tangle]

no probs

[balmy fractal]

Oh, So just accept the request, Indeed?

[vestal tangle]

ye

[balmy fractal]

Python power

lol

[vestal tangle]

[balmy fractal]

Alr ty

:3

[vestal tangle]

👍

[balmy fractal]

Anyways, Imma go to download 2020.3.3 Community Edition if it's newer than 2020.3.2

[native tree]

[little apex]

This may be a dumb question, but I cannot find the exact date when pyweek will start in march. Can somebody please tell me? Thanks

[random sinew]

I believe the date hasn't been determinated yet

[little apex]

Thank you 🙂

[little apex]

When will it be announced?

[random sinew]

I am not sure, sorry

[little apex]

ok

[exotic timber]

Is this a pygame jam?

Or just a gamejam in python?

[naive mirage]

It's a gamejam in python, you can use any python libraries afaik @exotic timber

The website and rules there would explain it in more detail

[limpid heart]

Is this where we'd look for teams? Or would that be more OT?

[sullen bear]

!warn @delicate orbit Don't post chainmail about raiding applications/.

[proud ruin]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @delicate orbit.

[toxic wind]

gamejam in python sounds fun!!

[regal tiger]

is this a literal game jam or like a discord bot contest

either way ill still get crushed tho but one I'm better at than the other

[covert seal]

this is a game jam.

[valid glade]

does anybody have any idea when the game jam will start or will be announced

[onyx basin]

can someone explain dis 2 me

[pliant atlas]

Look at the pyweek website for a great description

[narrow sierra]

#discord-bots

[white shoal]

with pygame, can u make 3d games?

or top down 3d games

[onyx basin]

I think so but idk how

[proud ruin]

Hey @orchid python!

It looks like you tried to attach file type(s) that we do not allow (.zip). We currently allow the following file types: .3gp, .3g2, .avi, .bmp, .gif, .h264, .jpg, .jpeg, .mov, .mp4, .mpeg, .mpg, .png, .tiff, .wmv, .psd, .ai, .aep, .xcf, .mp3, .wav, .ogg, .webm, .webp, .flac, .afdesign, .m4a, .csv.

Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

[vestal tangle]

who ping

[opal sky]

When Is The Game Jam

[opal sky]

Not Me

[onyx basin]

ok

[vestal tangle]

yes not you

[onyx basin]

I did not ping u

[vestal tangle]

bruh

[onyx basin]

wat????

[vestal tangle]

bruhhhhhhh

stop

i beg

[onyx basin]

?????

[onyx basin]

Isn't this next month?

Can we start the hype yet?

[potent kiln]

no.....

i think not

[gusty hearth]

How can I see the upcoming pyweek schedule?

[leaden dove]

yes where plz ?

[hybrid pike]

There is no upcoming pyweek schedule yet.

when there is, it should be on https://pyweek.org/

[onyx basin]

Last year it was around end of march, but I now see the date is not consistent each year. My bad!

I just can't wait. It's so much darn fun!

[drifting sky]

covid spoiled most of it

[low venture]

@heavy fable sorry to bother

what help channel was the one you helped me on

so i can re-check it and learn.

[heavy fable]

boron

[low venture]

boron the metalloid

thanks!

#help-kiwi

[dreamy tapir]

guys for pyweek can we pick our teammates?

also when does pyweek start?

[random sinew]

You can select your team, yes

You have to, actually

[onyx basin]

when is it?

[scarlet slate]

When is it ??

[naive mirage]

afaik that has not been announced yet, although i'd expect an announcement fairly soon

[onyx basin]

yeah bring on the hypetraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiin

makes obnoxious laser noises

I bet (even) more people would attend if there was enough time for them to schedule for it.

[last sluice]

if anyone wants someone on their team for the next pyweek game jam hit me up, would defo love to give the next one a go

[scarlet slate]

Any updates on the date ??

[random sinew]

Soon™

[scarlet slate]

Thanks

[eager isle]

sure

[lilac lily]

we have a jam every week??

how to enroll?

[craggy wagon]

Just check pyweek.org

The date has been announced as well it starts on the 28th of march

[tough kettle]

any clue if absolute beginners are able to compete?

[hot flume]

Absolutely, you can try and join a team or use this as an opportunity to learn one of the python game frameworks

[tough kettle]

Thank you, how do I find a team to join, and what framework might you recommend for a beginner?

[hot flume]

There will be a channel in a couple of days specifically for finding a team to join. There will also be a resource for which frameworks are currently available. There's one I'm trying to remember the name of that's specifically beginner friendly but I can't quite remember

[tough kettle]

ninx, i'll stay tuned.

[scarlet slate]

Do we need to enroll or what ??

[hot flume]

More information on the dates & how to register will be announced in the next few days

[scarlet slate]

Ok thanks

This same channel ??

[hot flume]

Yup! There'll also be an announcement about it #announcements

[scarlet slate]

And btw is there like a different competitions like 1 group is for beginners and 1 group for intermediate and 1 group for Professionals ??

[scarlet slate]

Thamks

[hot flume]

So it's all one big event, no different groups. But you can form a team or join an existing one too. It's a very fun event overall

[scarlet slate]

Ohh ok

Fine

Thanks

And when will the competition end ??

Any ideas ??

[hot flume]

The event is one week long (hence the name PyWeek). It typically runs Sunday to Sunday

[scarlet slate]

And wee need to submit before 4 april right

[hot flume]

The event will start March 28, so starting then is when you can work on your game. And yes, you do need to submit by April 4th

[scarlet slate]

Alright

Got it

Thanks

[scarlet slate]

Any other updates regarding this competition ??

[random sinew]

We are going to announce that at some point this month. I'd recommend you to run !subscribe in #bot-commands in order to get a ping when we announce it!

[scarlet slate]

Sure, thanks

[lyric cedar]

where to find teams?

[random sinew]

Here is a good place

[lyric cedar]

Hi sry if i bother you even more, will we have to use a specific library for this or we just need to commit a game. Asking because i would have to study those libraries 😅

[naive mirage]

You can use any libraries you want as long as they follow the rules, see https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html

[scarlet slate]

Should we sign up to this competition ??

[sullen bear]

Yep! You can register on https://pyweek.org/

FWIW folks the date is live on the above site now, so you can register, we'll put out an announcement soon as well.

[lyric cedar]

ok thx

Anyone looking for a noob member for his team?

[hybrid granite]

I could join your team (because I didnt find anyone 🥲 )

[lyric cedar]

idk how to make one but would be glad to 😃

[north ocean]

👀

😉 ❓

[onyx grail]

How many members are there in a team?

[lusty wasp]

As many as you'd like

[onyx grail]

What library would you recommend for beginners? Pygame or arcade or something else?
I have experience with PySide2/PyQt but haven't tried making any games with pygame or arcade yet

[lusty wasp]

Arcade seems to be fairly popular for 2D, I'd recommend Panda3D for 3D (disclaimer, I'm involved with the latter)

[onyx grail]

Oh. Thanks. I will checkout Panda3D as well. Not decided if i will do a 2D or 3D game yet.

[fiery rover]

Hi, I would like to join a team too! But I am a complete beginner. The only experience I have is making a pygame pong about a year ago.

[sour hedge]

Give it a shot! You'll at least learn something

[dreamy tapir]

hello can i use godot for the game jam?

and also how many teammates do i have to have to be considered a team?

also how do i say i am with my teammate?

any help would be great, thanks!

[lusty wasp]

@dreamy tapir nope, you can't use Godot, it must be written in Python.

[modern dust]

how can we register? is it on the website?
EDIT: nvrmind, I found the register url

[hot flume]

Hope y'all are as excited as I am for this! If you any questions feel free to post here~

[open cove]

im trying to register, but im not able to find any register button

[hot flume]

When you make an account on the website and click your profile name in the top right, there should be an option to "register an entry"

That should register you in the jam.

[dreamy tapir]

how do i say that i am with these certain teammates?

[keen spade]

https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/resources.html
3rd link here (https://nerdparadise.com/tech/python/pygame/tipsandtricks/) doesn't work

[sour hedge]

Successfully registered as "The solo"

[weak cape]

pyweek is back. hooray.

my project last pyweek was a colossal failure

eh, if I have time I'll give it a shot

[hybrid granite]

Hope y'all are as excited as I am for this!
yes! I registered with my team 🙌

[ocean gull]

I'm pretty sure it isn't allowed, but I'm going to ask anyways:
Is it allowed to make a discord bot as game with Discord.py?

[royal coyote]

How to register

And Which type of games can we make

using pygame

[indigo portal]

Ye can we make stuff discord bots as games?

[sacred marsh]

There has been an entry in the last PyWeek

so I guess you are allowed.. just try to think about how all the other participants can actually test it.. Not everyone has or wants to create their own server just to properly test your entry..

[hybrid granite]

Not everyone has or wants to create their own server just to properly test your entry..
I mean, the judges can join the participant's server to test their game instead of making their own server

[sacred marsh]

yea.. that is also something some of the participants wouldn't want to do... keep in mind that not everyone wants to be on discord and to actually properly test an entry, I'd want to use the actually submitted code, because on your server you could always fix/add stuff after the jam has ended. That entry from last PW didn't got all that much love, many just didn't judge it, mostly because it was too much to ask to install a discord bot or even join a server to test it. You're free to do what you want for an entry, but creating something that is a pain to get to work tends to get bad or few ratings in general

[hybrid granite]

I agree,

you could always fix/add stuff after the jam has ended
especially this

[sacred marsh]

yep.. that's why for some of us, it isn't acceptable to test an exported binary or a hosted solution by the entrant.. I tend to judge the latest source entry, that was still inside the grace period for uploading.

[lusty wasp]

@ocean gull I'd recommend against it, judges have many dozens of games to rate within their spare time, they don't tend to be very happy about unconventional things that are difficult to run

But it's not disallowed

[ocean gull]

Okay, thanks.

[upper lark]

This will be the first time I'll be joining a game jam! Excited to see how it turns out.

[dreamy tapir]

how do i register with my team?

[ocean gull]

https://pyweek.org

[scarlet slate]

Hi

Is there any theme we should follow for creating the game ??

[sacred marsh]

the theme voting starts one week before PW starts. there is a selection of 5 themes, from which the most popular is chosen by the registered users and serves as theme for the jam

[hybrid granite]

they will give the theme before the starting

[scarlet slate]

So we all need to vote right

[sacred marsh]

in my experience, the worst theme out of the 5 tends to get chosen.. not sure whether that is the right one for you

[scarlet slate]

What

[sacred marsh]

I'm being sarcastic..

[scarlet slate]

The worst one gets chosen ??

Ohh ok lol

[sacred marsh]

but every time I participated, my least favorite got chosen out of the 5 available ones

[scarlet slate]

Lol

K

Atb for this time

What did u get for the previous one ??

[sacred marsh]

last one was Cast Away

[scarlet slate]

What's that ??

[sacred marsh]

a theme.. themes for game jams tend to be vague, so a lot of different interpretations can result of it

it also was a movie (but spelled differently iirc) where a guy befriends a volley ball on an abandoned island or something

[scarlet slate]

Ohh

Weird themes

[dreamy tapir]

i have already registered but how do i do it with my team?

[scarlet slate]

You have to re register with your team mates name too ig

[dire mesa]

hey, what library would you recommend to use for pyweek? considering that we only have a week to finish.

[sacred marsh]

I use Panda3D when I participate..

[random sinew]

I'd personally recommend arcade

This is a very good library

[dire mesa]

ok thanks, will look into both

[dreamy tapir]

i use pygame cause i am very used to it

arcade is good too

[restive skiff]

does a game submission need a fancy UI?

is a console game accesptable?

[solid star]

The rules are linked in the channel description

So far I have not seen any console games in the submissions, but I don't think there is a rule against it

PyWeek is always the "Work on arcade / pyglet" week for me. At some point I plan to participate.

[dreamy tapir]

i use pygame :D

arcade feels the same but im more used to python

[idle star]

If anyone wants to check out Arcade for PyWeek, make sure to drop by https://arcade.academy/

There are a LOT of examples there to get started with.

[somber lagoon]

what’s the difference between arcade and pygame?

[idle star]

Also, DM me your address if you want an Arcade sticker. I have a lot to give out.

Pygame is more raster/CPU based. Arcade is more OpenGL/GPU based.

[somber lagoon]

ohhh, this was actually what i was looking for cause i was running into performance issues with pygame

thank you! i’ll have a look at this

[idle star]

Arcade can be faster for sprite-based games as it uses the GPU. Pygame is nice for people that like old-style control of games.

[somber lagoon]

wait, did you make arcade?!?!?

:0

[idle star]

I started it. A lot of people contributed, so I can't take credit for it.

[somber lagoon]

oh man that’s amazing

does it support 3D games?

[idle star]

It is focused on 2D. There are other libraries that are good for 3D from what I've heard.

[sacred marsh]

Panda3D being the most mature one when it comes to 3D

there's also Ursina which is built on top of Panda3D, which might make getting started a little easier

[somber lagoon]

do you have an arcade networking or multiplayer tutorial?

[idle star]

Not yet for networking. You can use multiple game pads easily though.

[somber lagoon]

i see

[sacred marsh]

python offers quite extensive means for networking, fwiw.. I would recommend against making a multiplayer game in PW though, since having multiple apps to install and get to run might turn some people off from even trying it.. and a week is very short for a fully functional game with networking integrated

[somber lagoon]

what’s PW?

[sacred marsh]

PyWeek

[somber lagoon]

oh wait nvm pyweek

LOL the timing

but yeah, makes sense

[scarlet slate]

When should we vote for the Theme ??

[real eagle]

Starts on the 21st

[scarlet slate]

Ok thanks

[shy delta]

Where on the site can we register (Can't find the Latest Challenge button)? I created an account but is confused on how to enter. Also, is there a certain category we have to code? (Please ping me when someone replies I might not be here) Thanks!

[lusty wasp]

@shy delta https://pyweek.org/31/entry_add/

[shy delta]

Thanks!

[peak hearth]

Question: What exactly counts as 'game logic'? In other words, is it allowed to implement an online game with a web (JS, not Brython) frontend that talks to a Python backend?

[sacred marsh]

it has been done before.. in the last one there was a submission where at least half of the code base was in JS.. I'd say it's frowned upon, but as long as installation for the jurors (=you and the other participants) isn't too painful and the notable part of game logic is implemented in Python, you should be fine. For my part, if I feel that too much of the code base is in another language and Python just makes up a small part, I will vote disqualify though

[onyx basin]

um, I am very new to pyWeek, can anyone help me please register? greatly appreciated

[onyx basin]

nvm hehehe, I have a team, if u want u can join! just dm me! 🙂

[onyx basin]

Are we allowed to use pyxel?

[hot flume]

Yup!

[onyx basin]

Awesome! I guess it's time to learn pyxel...

[raven cosmos]

Are we able to make a multiplayer component, if the multiplayer server code was also in python and included in the submission? For example, some python lambda functions running in AWS.

[sacred jasper]

how do you register

on the website

[onyx basin]

guess_count += 1 why do we use it ?

what does it do ??

[spark violet]

the program doesn't want the user to have infinite tries

so once it is equal to the certain number of tries

guess limit

it'll say you've lost

and it'll break the program

[fiery rover]

What is the convention: python2 or python3? I tried running a game from the site. It was written in 2.4. I tried to convert it using 2to3 but it used some packages not available in 3.

I know I am being lazy not installing python 2 but I have had some problem with the path previously, so I lile to use python 3.7 only

[covert seal]

afaik python 3 is preferred now, but keep in mind that pyweek has existed for a very long time, so older games will be in py2

[fiery rover]

I see

[visual glen]

From the submission rules:

Entries must run using the latest version of Python. Entries must not require end-of-life versions of Python. See the Python Dev Guide for which Python versions are allowed.

[sacred marsh]

If you look at the rules, they state that your entry has to run with the latest version of Python

[hybrid granite]

whatt, so my game has to run on 3.9.2?

[sacred marsh]

Whatever entry you found that was using 2.4 must be from a veeery old PyWeek! And as an aside, if you're not a company that has driven itself into a corner by still having a codebase around that only works in python 2, you really shouldn't be using python 2! stay far far away from it

if you write it in Python 3.6, it will almost certainly run in 3.9.2

[hybrid granite]

I downgraded from 3.9 to 3.8 because of all the unsupported libraries lol

[sacred marsh]

I tend to write my code with the last 2-3 versions in mind...

[hybrid granite]

hmm

[sacred marsh]

Only because a library hasn't updated the version, doesn't mean it won't run in 3.9... if they are libs with compiled parts, simply get the source version and install that. you need to have a working toolchain and depending on the platform you're on, the respective -dev package for python, but I rarely have problems with making python packages work with newer versions

[valid prairie]

Where can I report bugs with the website?

[hybrid granite]

well I personally dont know (but I've also found 1 bug in that website 👀)

[random sinew]

I think you should open an issue on https://github.com/pyweekorg/PyWeekOrg @valid prairie @hybrid granite

[valid prairie]

thanks

[hybrid granite]

ok

[valid prairie]

done!

One last question: would the Python-Gravity library be allowed? https://pypi.org/project/Python-Gravity

[pearl oxide]

Yeah, any library is allowed ig

[hybrid granite]

well not really.

[pearl oxide]

doesn't say anywhere in the rules, that you are not allowed to use a library

[valid prairie]

It says it must have links to documentation, but the simple documentation is in the README, and the more advanced stuff is pydoc

[hybrid granite]

we can only use libraries that are in accordance with

[pearl oxide]

oops

[hybrid granite]

that d) one is interesting.

[valid prairie]

I’m wondering if Python-Gravity would satisfy c)

[valid prairie]

Is there a way I can have that verified? Because I’d hate to use it then get denied because it doesn’t fit the bill

Without even knowing beforehand that it doesn’t fit the bill

[hot flume]

I'll ask the organizers and let you know

[valid prairie]

thanks

[woeful tree]

@valid prairie I am an organiser, but no, the organisers can't verify a library and rule it in or out. The competition is judged by the other entrants, and it is they who vote as to whether an entry should be disqualified

I do think that your library is not meeting the (c) clause

From the point of view of someone who searches for your library, it's not at all clear what it does - "calculating stuff having to do with gravity" is super vague

Fix that, generate the docs with PDoc3 and stick them on GitHub pages, and link to them, and other entrants are more likely to see your library as accessible to them

[valid prairie]

ok thanks

I’ve searched for something like PDoc3 but never found it

[real eagle]

https://pypi.org/project/pdoc3/
Is this not what you were looking for?

[woeful tree]

Most people use Sphinx, sphinx.ext.autodoc and readthedocs.org. ReadTheDocs also supports MkDocs but I'm not sure that has API doc tooling. PDoc3 is purely an API doc tool, but it means you can't use ReadTheDocs

So that's why you might consider GitHub pages. And of course you could try to automatically generate the Pdoc docs on tag, using GitHub Actions.

[valid prairie]

If I add it better documentation, would it be ok? I'm worried because it's within 30 days

[livid abyss]

What's game jam?

[hot flume]

It's a week-long event that happens twice a year where you code a game in python!

You can do it solo or work with other people. Check out #pyweek-faq for more info~

[livid abyss]

A game

Are there any more contests coming up?

[hot flume]

The next one starts March 28

[livid abyss]

Not the pygame any other

Like building website

Or si

Ai*

[hot flume]

We do have a code jam coming up in the summer, more info should be released about that in April/May

An AI thing is something we're discussing internally to work out how it would happen. But it is something we're interested in

[livid abyss]

Ok any web dev thing coming up?

[hot flume]

Any event we do will be posted about in #announcements. Our last code jam was centered around Django so it'll probably be a few events before we do a web-dev centered one again

[livid abyss]

Ok I m django dev

Soo it will be again?

[hot flume]

Maybe! We might try a different web framework since we did django so recently

[livid abyss]

Oh man I missed it :(

[valid prairie]

PDoc3 sucks

It doesn't work at all with Cython

It crashes when attempted

@woeful tree So I got some docs: https://gaming32.github.io/pygravity/
Do you think it would be fine now?

[woeful tree]

Nice! I think that's a big improvement, yes

[idle star]

If you are looking for ideas, here's a summary of 2020 GameJam: https://arcade.academy/game_jam_2020.html

[lusty wasp]

@valid prairie the challenge is less than a month away, though. You can use it in the next challenge (the one after the upcoming one).

The spirit of the rule is that other entrants have ample time to know of and learn the library, so that there is a level playing field.

In the end it comes down to the individual entrants' judgement whether they will disqualify you or not. I wouldn't risk it.

[valid prairie]

shoot

I actually breathed it up from dead so that it could be used in PyWeek

[ocean river]

What’s this channel

[hot flume]

It's about an upcoming event called PyWeek. It's a game jam that happens twice a year where in the span of a week you code a game in Python

[ocean river]

Oh that seems hard

[sacred jasper]

are we allowed to use jupyter notebook to create a game

and can we add machine learning to the game

[keen geode]

Ello fellas
Can't believe it's been a year now

How's everyone doing

[sacred jasper]

Yeah very crazy

[sour lintel]

Is it allowed to use Unreal Engine for pyweek? Used pygame last time, but was interesting to get my feet wet in a better 3d tool

[random sinew]

Since UE4 is a C++ tool, I don’t think so

[sour lintel]

okay, thanks 🙂

[sacred marsh]

urm.. the last one was in october last year.. so you have a rounding error in your sentence

[keen geode]

Oops I forgot it's biyearly not yearly lol

[simple pebble]

when are the themes for pyweek announced?

[hot flume]

Voting starts on March 21st, I believe the theme itself is decided when the jam starts (someone feel free to correct me when I'm wrong)

[simple pebble]

aahhh i see thanks

[valid prairie]

correct

[raven cosmos]

Are we allowed to have a multiplayer component as a lambda in aws? Code included in the submission.

[sacred marsh]

try asking yourself how much effort is involved for the people to test and judge your game. keep in mind that for fairness sake, I would want to test the submitted code submitted before the deadline and wouldn't necessarily trust anything running in the cloud. so if I have to make an account with amazon/other cloud provider first just to run and try your code, I would be definitely put off.

[raven cosmos]

Hmm this is a good point, I was thinking the game could by default connect to the lambda in my account and you could optionally deploy and run your own.

It would be easier to make a simpler traditional python server that you can run locally. I was just playing with the idea that everyone would be in the same game.

[sacred marsh]

the list of entries is probably going to be long. last time I didn't manage to get through all the entries during the judging period. so if it involves a lot of complicated steps or time to get an entry to run, an entry tends to get fewer ratings in my experience than ones that are easy to run and play..

[raven cosmos]

Hm, ok this is a good consideration, thanks! But in general, depending on connecting to an external server that you also submit the code for isn't against the rules, it might just be difficult for people to play and judge.

[sacred marsh]

I don't think it's against the rules, but it needs the possibility for the people judging to also run the server code for themselves, especially because there would be no way for them to know whether the code running on the server is the same as the one submitted

and I can only speak for me, but having to make an account with a cloud provider just to test it would move that game pretty far to the back of my list of games to test and judge.. others might feel differently, but I test the source version of an entry, because of the "even playing field" part of the rules. If I can't get the game to run that way with some reasonable effort, I vote dnr

[raven cosmos]

Hmm ok let me think about this approach a bit more. I did want to set myself a challenge of a multiplayer component, but maybe I will make it easy to run locally first.

[sacred marsh]

I'm not saying I wouldn't love to see a multiplayer entry but I learned that an entry for a game jam turns out best if the scope is kept extremely narrow.. one solid mechanic and good polish beat feature galore every time from what I've seen.

and if it turns out to be a cool prototype, it can always evolve into more after the jam has ended.. many examples out there where game jams lead to actually successful indie games (e.g. Hollow Knight)

[raven cosmos]

Thanks for the tips! I might focus on getting a game working first and if I have time maybe explore multiplayer but making it easy to run locally.

[graceful quartz]

Should we submit the installer of our game?

[valid prairie]

@raven cosmos I think the best method could be something like Minecraft, with an external server for multiplayer, but it also runs the server locally (and automatically) in singleplayer. The singleplayer server can also be connected to by other clients.

I’ve actually thought about adding multiplayer aspects to my Python games before and might do that this PyWeek as well

[raven cosmos]

@valid prairie this is a really good idea! It also enforces a good separation between the game logic and game front-end, and you can leave it single player if you run out of time.

[valid prairie]

👍

[unreal forge]

Hi everyone. Former PW veteran here. Excited that it's still around, might give it another try!

[limpid heart]

The registration email got caught in my gmail spam folder! how rude

[unreal forge]

My teammate just had the same issue

[torpid elbow]

why is everyone speaking so formal here lmao

[graceful quartz]

Can I upload my submission to platforms like itch.io

?

[random sinew]

You retain rights on the work, so yes

[graceful quartz]

👍

[mossy iron]

How many people are in this game jam btw

[sacred marsh]

47 entries currently registered https://pyweek.org/31/entries/ (doesn't mean that all of them actually participate)

[onyx basin]

whats library is everyone using

is it a surprise?

[onyx basin]

@onyx basin usually it's pygame, panda3d, arcade, pyglet or pyopengl.

I will use panda3d because it is the coolest thing in the world ever.

whats panda3d

Hmm and is it better than pyglet

XD

it looks kinda good 👀

[sage musk]

I always use pygame cause I like SDL

[raven cosmos]

I've been meaning to check out Pyodide (Python running in web assembly) https://github.com/iodide-project/pyodide

Then you could access the browsers canvas, and webgl

[hexed sorrel]

[raven cosmos]

I'm starting to believe Gary Bernhardt lol (https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript)

It might be the easiest, fastest way to get cross platform, minimal dependency, opengl program that just works ™️

(with Python)

[graceful quartz]

How to register as a team

[real eagle]

https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/help.html#so-you-want-to-enter-as-a-team

[bright fable]

How to submit the final project when the time comes

[onyx basin]

#voice-chat-text-0

[bright fable]

Am new to game jams in general and I want to know how to submit the game once the competition starts

[sacred marsh]

well.. you're not allowed to start your entry before the competition starts, so anything submitted early would kind of raise suspicion about following all the rules 😉
that out of the way, there will be a simple upload field on your entries page, with a checkbox to mark a release as final (you can mark multiple releases final and the last one uploaded will count as your final entry)

don't worry about those things too much though.. there are knowledgeable people here that can help you if you get stuck with something like submitting.

[bright fable]

Thanks allot 😀

[onyx basin]

when does this start?

[sacred marsh]

theme voting on the 21. and the jam starts on the 28. iirc

[onyx basin]

thanks man

[somber magnet]

what game engine do you guys use

[sly oyster]

@onyx basin

[topaz topaz]

does anyone know how to use pytmx for a tilemap? the videos are not helpful

[valid glade]

thank god i can participate
my exams finished today

[pliant atlas]

There’s many. Panda3D, pygame, arcade, pyglet

And I think godot actually supports python?

[sacred marsh]

Godot has GDScript which looks like Python but isn't... There may be some Python bindings around as well, but I've never seen an entry using Godot so far in PyWeek

[exotic sand]

Can somebody help me to register on that game jam? Because I can't find any way to do that. I follow the instructions but I can't see any registration button.

[sacred marsh]

in the top right corner of https://pyweek.org you find this:

[pliant atlas]

Well I stand corrected

[somber magnet]

thx

[exotic sand]

@sacred marsh I registered on the website but I don't know I have registered on the game jam event.

Damn, it was available on the desktop view.

I registered on the game jam no need. Thanks for reminding me to use the web view BTW.@sacred marsh

[sacred jasper]

I am just curious can you add people to an already registered team or do I have to make a new account

[valid prairie]

Yes, you can add people

[graceful quartz]

How do you vote for the theme?

[valid prairie]

There will be a link on the website when theme voting starts

[graceful quartz]

Oh ok

[restive dirge]

the jam isnt started yet right?

[sly oyster]

No it hasn't

In a week

[limpid heart]

I know what 'cops' means, anyone fill me in on the others?

snooker loopy?

[modest tapir]

Is snooper loopy a reference to the song by chas and dave ?

[limpid heart]

is that...random words?

like the 2 least used words in the American lexicon combined?

soul to soul? is this an R&B contest or a game jam? Make a text based dating sim!

Where's long list at? I wanna see what we missed out on

[modest tapir]

Aquila is eagle in Latin

[limpid heart]

Ooh, that bumps that one up

Maybe I'll put 1 for snooker just because, anarchy and all that

[modest tapir]

Search them on Google mate

[limpid heart]

but google doesn't discuss back

came here to discuss

try to make an informed decision, and leave a trail for the next one who is as dumbfounded as I was

[modest tapir]

Ok but i'm french so i'll be having a rough time with the themes

[limpid heart]

I could have googled em all much faster than all this, but I don't do this for me

(I do, but that's not the point)

[modest tapir]

Is bridging the gap an expression in English or is it litteral ?

[pliant atlas]

Expression

It’s typically solving an arguement

The gap being the problem

[modest tapir]

Ok ty ❤️

[limpid heart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BliAPzEsao0 so this?

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/uciwegoliv.properties lyrics

[modest tapir]

I think

[pliant atlas]

Snooker is billiards I think

[modest tapir]

Yep

[limpid heart]

soul to soul, I'm guessing not the acclaimed film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_to_Soul_(film)

[pliant atlas]

Or is it?

[limpid heart]

There's a temptations song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XfNrZK7A3Q

[modest tapir]

It's billard player no ?

[pliant atlas]

https://www.gametablesonline.com/blog/difference-between-billiards-pool-snooker/

[limpid heart]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snooker snooker is not billiards, but played on a similar table

beat me to it

[modest tapir]

Ty all 😅

[limpid heart]

so uh...now that that's out of the way

I have no idea how to vote

[pliant atlas]

Lol

[limpid heart]

randomly it is

[pliant atlas]

I won’t participate because of time constraints and lack of knowledge :(

[graceful quartz]

Can we use tiled?

[raven cosmos]

Is the voting individually or one vote per team?

[idle star]

If you are looking for ideas on things you can do, and sample code, see https://arcade.academy/examples/index.html

[onyx basin]

Darn this jam also overlaps with the pygame community jam. https://itch.io/jam/pygame-community-easter-jam

Now I have to juggle 3 jam.

[graceful quartz]

Can we use pytmx

[woeful tree]

Yes

[graceful quartz]

I asked Because it's not mentioned in libraries

Anyway thanks

[woeful tree]

The themes are deliberately abstract so you can take them in all kinds of directions

[graceful quartz]

Ok
Thanks for the help @mauve#7147

[graceful quartz]

When will they announce the theme?

[proud ruin]

Hey @ivory maple!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[valid glade]

i have registered on the pyweek website
how do i join the jam?

[limpid heart]

They were published to a public website that has existed for least 30 days before the competition question regarding assets, the site has to have existed for over 30 days? Or the listing of the assets? There was a nice 11gb sound effects dump posted on a reddit post on the 4th...

[woeful tree]

IIRC it's the site. The thinking was that if the site has existed for long enough for people to discover it then people should be able to search it for assets that support their game idea

[muted cloud]

Would you have the link by any chance ? 🙂

[limpid heart]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/lxr130/over_100011_gb_free_sound_effects_scifi_horror/ enjoy it champ!

[muted cloud]

Thanks so much ! Sound is definitely my weakest point ^^

[sly oyster]

For some reason emaim verification was found as spam

[sly oyster]

How u get gamejam role?

[pliant atlas]

If I make a piece of code that I will use in the jam BEFORE the jam, then upload it to github, can I use it in the jam?

[covert seal]

well, that would fall under library rules, so 30 days old with good docs and reasonably usable for games other than yours

[pliant atlas]

Welp

[harsh summit]

Can u use opencv for pyweek with any other gaming library?

[lilac lily]

Hey guys could u explain me the themes! so then I can vote with sense rather than choosing random options..

[valid glade]

can someone tell me how to enter the jam?

[real eagle]

"Register" on the top right of this website: https://pyweek.org/

[valid glade]

i have done that
anything else?

[sacred marsh]

before the jam ends you need to register an entry and upload at least one file that is marked as final.. do note that you don't have to register your entry beforehand, but you can already if you want to

[valid glade]

ok thx

[graceful quartz]

When will they announce the selected theme?

[sacred marsh]

when the jam starts

[valid prairie]

yes

look at the libraries rule

you can use any library older than 30 days

[valid prairie]

The themes have no definition. They're defined however you think they should be. They're purposefully ambiguous

[lilac lily]

oh ok!!

[lyric cedar]

i would need that too

[lilac lily]

here u go the explanation @lyric cedar

[lyric cedar]

oh thx didnt notice

[inner sphinx]

Wish i could do this but i have exams next week

[sacred jasper]

what the hell is snooker loopy I saw it as a theme option for voting

[sly oyster]

Pls put 5 for that

[storm girder]

Hi

[graceful quartz]

Hi @storm girder

[graceful quartz]

What reward will I get if I win?

[sacred marsh]

Internet Points and Virtual Certificate of awesomeness

plus a pink name tag on discord

[sly oyster]

Let me win, u already have pink name :)

[sacred marsh]

but where will I get my Internet Points from otherwise 😱 ????

[onyx basin]

can we still vote?

[sacred marsh]

theme voting ends the exact moment when the jam starts. so yes

[glass mauve]

yo

can

people use python game engines

in pyweek

[sacred marsh]

read the rules

[lyric cedar]

@sacred marsh joins the chat
@sacred marsh explains what pink means
Everyone: confused screaming

[pliant atlas]

might not wanna ping unnecessarily

[graceful quartz]

What is internet points?

[bitter sorrel]

hi

[onyx basin]

i made my account, so do we like need to do something else?

also i need team xD

[little apex]

I can't help you with the team part, since I'm going solo(too many people in teams) but you need to sign up for pyweek 31 with your account.

[pliant atlas]

A joke. Internet points aren’t a real thing

[sacred marsh]

huh.. I must've forgotten my sarcasm tags somewhere else in the interwebs 🤔

[pliant atlas]

Always use closing tags

[sacred marsh]

🤦‍♂️

I left those in my closet

[pliant atlas]

Aww man

[woeful tree]

Also the virtual certificate of awesomeness is a lie

[sacred marsh]

ohoh.. I have been found out 🤣

but was the cake really a lie?

[woeful tree]

No, the winners of PyWeek always get cake

Did you not get cake?

[sacred marsh]

🍰

[woeful tree]

I just posted this elsewhere, so I'll post it here to get back on topic a bit...

I just learned about SymPy, for symbolic maths in Python. I used it to derive the calculations for various affine transformation operations: https://github.com/lordmauve/wasabigeom/blob/master/notebooks/Transforms.ipynb

... which I was able to quickly port into Cython: https://github.com/lordmauve/wasabigeom/commit/8e72d0b1883b0d0ff1041195bc6be97070e5e047

[graceful quartz]

So what are the actual rewards

?

[sacred marsh]

you win the contest is the reward.. the philosophy behind PyWeek, as I understand it, is to advance the tools available for creating games using Python. There's no cash price or physical reward if you win. If you do, you get the role you can see on some of us here

also, if you win, you're entry may end up in the carousel on the pyweek homepage...

a screenshot of the entry that is, linked to your entry

[vestal tangle]

imagine wanting a reward for everything

couldnt be me

[sly oyster]

I may donate them to u, right? Just send me your internet points account

[muted cloud]

wow shinny internet points transfers

[cinder cliff]

do I need to register as a single participant?

[woeful tree]

You need to register an entry, yes; you could add more people to it later

[cinder cliff]

ah, ok! cheers 🙂

[cinder cliff]

And where can I register? the button seems not to show up

ah, found it!

[unreal forge]

The button is quite well hidden

[sly oyster]

Agree

[woeful tree]

That's the first test

[sly oyster]

oh now it makes 100 times more sense, second test must be email confirmation in spam folder?

any tips on pyweek from quadruple champion?

[lusty wasp]

I can't decide which themes I like most, so I'm letting Python determine my theme votes this time

>>> from random import shuffle
>>> choices = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
>>> shuffle(choices)
>>> choices
[2, 1, 4, 3, 5]

[sacred marsh]

yep.. I did the same

[woeful tree]

I mean, we should ask @unreal forge, a 6-time champion

[sly oyster]

oh 6 times, wow. btw are we allowed to use tts programs / websites for speach

[lusty wasp]

@sly oyster I guess I technically qualify… my advice is to try to focus on a simple game concept, really hammer it out, and leave enough time for plenty of polish

It's so easy to overscope

And then end up with a half-finished prototype that doesn't "feel" nice. In my opinion, having a well-polished entry is half the battle.

[sly oyster]

thanks, great advice

[woeful tree]

My tip would be that humour helps create a sense of fun. Any game mechanic is only sort of so-so fun on its own, you have to dress it up, give it a mood, and funny is a good mood

[lusty wasp]

Most effective games are built on (1) a well tried and tested simple core game mechanic, add (2) an interesting twist to that mechanic, and dressed up with (3) an interesting theme.

Although PyWeek does tend to be a good opportunity to prototype crazy cool new game mechanics, it's of course always a little risky that it doesn't pan out

[woeful tree]

Oh, I guess my more fundamental tip is that you can't win on one or two of the scoring criteria, you have to hit all three.

[lusty wasp]

Very true.

If you make a really good looking game and get a 5 for production, you'll still lose if it's just not fun.

[woeful tree]

Something I learned quite early is that some mechanics are a lot of work right off the bat, and the biggest one of those is combat

It multiplies out to attack animations, hit animations, taking damage, health displays, death, death animation, game over screens, restarts

[lusty wasp]

That's why I don't like doing very mechanically complex things like that in a PyWeek game. When you're done with all that there's still a risk that what you made just isn't very fun.

[woeful tree]

Exactly

[maiden cedar]

can we increase pixel size in pygame????????????????????????????//

it's really urgent

pls do reply

[lusty wasp]

@maiden cedar wrong channel. Try #game-development.

[woeful tree]

Try Ctrl-Shift-Equals Bad joke, I'm sorry

[maiden cedar]

they dont answer @lusty wasp

[sacred marsh]

still wrong channel, even if they dont answer.. also try to don't expect people to answer on your command, last I checked, almost nobody gets compensated to give support for insertAnOpenSourceProjectHere

[unreal forge]

@sly oyster My best piece of advice is to make a fun, simple toy first, then work out how to make it a game.

Similar to rdb's advice, I guess.

[hot flume]

Since you're a pyweek champion (and I can confirm that) would you like the PyWeek Champion role?

[unreal forge]

Sure. Although how do you confirm that exactly?

[hot flume]

Trusting mauve and doing a basic check of github and etc

Enjoy your shiny new role!

[unreal forge]

Thank you.

[woeful tree]

I confirmed it by checking that your Discord picture matches the gravatar associated with your PyWeek account

✅ Identity confirmed!

[unreal forge]

Not sure how we will do this time. We're missing our heavy hitters code-wise. Time to get back to basics.

Excited to take part again though

[sly oyster]

Thanks for great advice's, afterall im here to gain some experience and have fun with others

[onyx basin]

Is there a way to see the themes without registering? I'm just curious

[sacred marsh]

If you're hoping to see Goats Goats Goats, you're plain out of luck

[onyx basin]

[sacred marsh]

I don't know if they're supposed to be a secret to outsiders.. but only registering on the pyweek site doesn't sign you up for an entry at the same time.. so you can always make an account and have a peek I guess

[glad vine]

What are the themes for this years semesters game jam?

[sacred marsh]

PyWeek happens twice a year...

[onyx basin]

I am curious enough even to add another brick to the lastpass wall

Mind if I post the themes voting list here?

I don't really know what any of them mean

[sacred marsh]

That is to be expected.. themes for game jams are often kept very ambiguous. That tends to lead to a wider range of possible interpretations by the participants and thus a much broader spectrum of resulting games.

[real eagle]

In essence, they want you to be creative.

[sacred marsh]

also I'm almost certain that the theme list is a result of using a combination of a word list and a PRNG

[neat stratus]

I feel like deja vu. I swear I read the same sentence yesterday.

[sacred marsh]

very likely... many people asking the same questions over and over again.. yet this doesn't qualify as definition for insanity

[onyx basin]

I can't tell if they're too broad or too specific

[sand spire]

Snooker
specific
loopy
broad
Snooker loopy
perfect

[dreamy tapir]

has the theme been released yet?

[real eagle]

No, it will be released on the day of the jam so that no one has an advantage.

[dreamy tapir]

oh ok

[twilit canopy]

they seem to be song titles, album names, and band names

snooker loopy is a song full of sex puns by a british band

soul to soul is a movie and a band

aquila seems to have been a prog rock band in the 70s

bridging the gap is a song

and cops has a very famous opening theme

[sacred marsh]

aquila is also the epicenter of the strongest earthquake in recent Italian history

so if that is chosen, you'd be bound to make an earthquake simulator

[twilit canopy]

i don't think python is the right language for that tbh, at least not without pulling in a lot of c dependencies

[sacred marsh]

well.. as long as it doesn't do any game mechanic, you can pull in whatever pleases you.. I don't think the physics simulation counts as actually game mechanic.. it is just a helpful system that enables a mechanic on top of it.. e.g. Panda3D has various physics systems built in and I highly doubt that an entry would be marked as disqualified if it uses either Bullet, ODE, etc...

if you want to say it straight out, Python really isn't suited for game programming to begin with.. it is a very approachable language that enables fast prototyping and has a nice and readable syntax imho.. but for actual game development it should be used at most for a bit of scripting on top of a foundation that is written in a fast language operating a lot closer to the metal

that's why I use Panda3D when I participate in PyWeek.. it brings a very fast and stable foundation written in C++, with elegant bindings to Python.. I even wrote a small wrapper around a C++ library during the last PyWeek for noise generation, which was simply too slow when using a native python package to do so.. But as stated before, the rules clearly allow to use libraries and/or code written in other languages, as long as that code doesn't make up the game mechanic...

[lusty wasp]

Nothing wrong with lots of C dependencies. Python is a C dependency.

Leave Python for the high level direction, C(++) for the low level grinding.

[unreal forge]

Just gotta have a proper setup.py or requirements.txt and people should be able to run your game. Remember that the people judging the entries will probably know how to set up their Python environments.

[sacred marsh]

writing 2-3 lines on how to install also doesn't hurt.. but the level of experience varies wildly in PyWeek in my experience so far, so never assume and make it as trivial as possible to play the entry for the people judging it

[idle star]

@onyx basin See https://learn.arcade.academy and if that helps.

[dreamy tapir]

when does the game jam start (est?)

[unreal forge]

Midnight UTC on Saturday/Sunday night.

[dreamy tapir]

oh ok

[unreal forge]

EST is UTC-4, right? So that will be 8pm Saturday.

[dreamy tapir]

ok thanks!

[unreal forge]

Maybe depends on summer time.

[tranquil oar]

If you get time before the Jam starts, have a look through https://pyweek.org/all_games/ for ideas and development experiences. The low scoring games have some good ideas and concepts too 😀

[upbeat grail]

I need help

[unreal forge]

With taking readable pictures? Seriously though, I have no idea what your question is.

[onyx basin]

Hello all! 🙂 PyWeek soon yeah yeah 😄

[neat stratus]

Didn’t realize it was UTC

[little apex]

12 hours to start (:

*11 hours and 55 mins xD

[idle star]

Here's some other examples of prior games: https://arcade.academy/game_jam_2020.html

[onyx basin]

What were some past themes?

[sacred marsh]

last one was Cast Away, I remember one being Tower...

unfortunately the bestest theme to be potentially chosen, wasn't!!!! People had the chance to vote for "Goats! Goats! Goats!" and they didn't!!! 🤬

I probably remain upset for the rest of my life about that theme not being chosen.. Some day I make my own game jam with black jack and "Goats! Goats! Goats!" and none of you are invited 🤪

[idle star]

A goat theme would be baaaaaa-d.

Just kidding.

I hope you goat my joke.

[sacred marsh]

hey.. I'm happy if I can build up excitement for my future Goat themed Game Jam!! I take any sort of PR 😛

[indigo comet]

goats are nice!

[pearl oxide]

So you are in the pyweek server vinam?

Of attribute error

We had that emoji

[indigo comet]

it was a pyweek server now its just a hangout place

[onyx basin]

I made an account but do I need to officially register to enter?

With the Add Entry thing

[indigo comet]

uhh i requested to join several teams cuz i didnt know anything at first and now i am in 3, i only want to be in 1, how do i remove myself from the other 2?

[sacred marsh]

you just have to add an entry before the submission deadline.. it might be wise to wait until the theme is announced, since you cannot change the url of your entry after adding one

[indigo comet]

ohh i c

[sacred marsh]

I think the admin of a team can remove you if you request it

[indigo comet]

you can add an entry after the theme announcement?

[sacred marsh]

yes

the deadline to add one is just before the submission deadline kicks in

[indigo comet]

ooh

[onyx basin]

I see, thanks. Is the entry url just the name of our game?

[twilit canopy]

so we can register the team at any point before the final submission deadline?

[onyx basin]

What's this?

[twilit canopy]

a biannual game jam

the theme is revealed in 7 hours and 40 minutes

[hot flume]

I believe so, yes. You just need to have some entry registered and something submitted before the final submission deadline

[neat stratus]

Isn't that also when it starts?

[indigo comet]

yes

[peak hearth]

Can a game be structured as a Discord bot?

[lusty wasp]

Please note, you need to have the entry registered before the coding deadline, NOT the submission deadline.

So, before next Saturday 23:59Z

It's not possible to register a new entry on the final upload sunday.

[sacred marsh]

yes.. I misspoke

[sacred marsh]

that question has been asked so many times now 🤣

[exotic sand]

Can I just share the source code? Because I don't have computer and in my phone, it might be impossible to make it executable.

[lusty wasp]

Yes

[exotic sand]

Great.

[lusty wasp]

You just need to include instructions

Or it should be obvious, with a run_game.py and a requirements.txt

[sacred marsh]

please consider that people have to judge it and probably neither want to join your server and installing it tends to be more effort than I like to go through to judge the entry..

[lusty wasp]

The harder you make it for people to try your game, the less sympathetic judges tend to be.

[exotic sand]

Yeah.

[peak hearth]

alright, understandable

[exotic sand]

@lusty wasp thanks for the help.

[onyx basin]

begins in 6 hours

poggers

[tranquil oar]

Start here https://pyweek.org/register/

[sterile nymph]

can you register late?

[twilit canopy]

honestly a lot of pyweek stuff isn't that well explained imo

it's technically on the site but during the last pyweek i spent a lot of time repeatedly to explain stuff to beginners that were on my team

[twilit canopy]

from what i read here earlier, i think you can register after the theme is announced, but there's a cutoff that happens before the final deadline for submission

[pliant atlas]

i think the py week instructions are kinda long, which makes people not wanna read them, so they just ask question here

not sure how you could shorten them tho

[onyx basin]

hyyype

[twilit canopy]

how do we get the pink role?

[lusty wasp]

By winning 🙂

[twilit canopy]

no the light pink one

the aaaaAAAAAAA one

[lusty wasp]

Yes, that's the one

[twilit canopy]

i see two

[lusty wasp]

Oh, the even lighter one

[twilit canopy]

Pyweek Champions, which isn't the one I'm asking about

I'm asking about aaaaAAAAA

is that a staff role?

[pliant atlas]

the aaaaaa is secret

[twilit canopy]

or is it jus a participant role?

[pliant atlas]

staff team

[twilit canopy]

ah

i thought it was a participant role, sorry

[pliant atlas]

lol same

i scrolled up a long time in community meta

[lusty wasp]

I just realised some people get an hour longer of PyWeek than me because of DST

[onyx basin]

that's to make things fair for the rest of the contestants :P

since our part of the globe is way too awesome

[pliant atlas]

lol

[sterile nymph]

is there a way to change your account name?

[onyx basin]

[woeful tree]

No, sorry

[sterile nymph]

delete account?

[onyx basin]

Is PyWeek a thing hosted by this discord server? Or do people from other places enter?

[woeful tree]

It is an independent event that is partnered with PyDis since last year

[onyx basin]

[woeful tree]

I don't think you can delete an account, but you can always create a new one

[woeful tree]

Avevo dimenticato quello. Ci sono molti significati

[twilit canopy]

1 hour and 48 minutes
https://gfycat.com/MildIndolentBoubou-max-1mb.gif

[unreal forge]

Need to know that theme so I can go to bed!

[nocturne quail]

Wtf is that

[twilit canopy]

the gif?

[nocturne quail]

Yeah

[twilit canopy]

it's a chimpanzee knocking on a door then shaking it really forcefully

[nocturne quail]

How cute

[twilit canopy]

it's kind of depressing if you think about the enclosure being in really bad shape

but it seemed like an ok reaction gif for the situation

[hot flume]

This is our for-shits-and-giggles staff team. We have a role so we can ping it and we use a channel on this discord to communicate~

[unreal forge]

I am constantly baffled by the role situation on this Discord. 😀

[hot flume]

This situation is a bit odd because we've hoisted it above owners, so technically only one person can give this role out xD

[twilit canopy]

@hot flume to make sure I understand the rules, can we register the team after the theme is announced?

[hot flume]

Yes. You have to have an entry registered (which is essentially the team) by the coding deadline.

[twilit canopy]

when is the coding deadline? 7 days from the opening?

[hot flume]

next Saturday 23:59Z

But yeah, 7 days from when it opens

[twilit canopy]

thanks

[sterile nymph]

40 minutes!

[sacred marsh]

apparentemente.. il bello con il tema vago é, che le interpretazioni possono variare molto di più nel prodotto finale

[onyx basin]

Instant runoff voting

way better than stupid plurality

Is final scoring done the same way

[unreal forge]

Final scoring is done by range voting

[karmic scroll]

Folks with questions, please read up on the pyweek web site:
https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html

[muted cloud]

30 seconds left...

[sterile nymph]

oooooo

[wind tundra]

20 seconds

[sterile nymph]

10

5

[muted cloud]

Cops !!

[meager leaf]

oof

[wind tundra]

cops

nice

[onyx basin]

[knotty stag]

gl guys

[muted cloud]

and not None ×D

[valid prairie]

why did people choose “Cops”?

also gl

[knotty stag]

because its broad enough i guess

[onyx basin]

I wanted the bridge one

[knotty stag]

better than snooker loopy

[muted cloud]

To get to the other side 🐤

[sterile nymph]

website isnt loading for me

[meager leaf]

nah snooker loopy is neat

[knotty stag]

i guess

[valid prairie]

yes

[knotty stag]

but kinda weird and overspecific

[meager leaf]

aquila would have been really cool

[dreamy tapir]

is it cops?

[valid prairie]

I voted for “Soul to Soul”

[knotty stag]

yep

[valid prairie]

yes

[dreamy tapir]

yea boiiii

[muted cloud]

Remember to eat, drink and sleep. Taking care of yourself (but not the last day) is the key 😉

[sterile nymph]

i really wanted the soul one

[knotty stag]

i am going to stop breathing on the last day

[wind tundra]

i wanted the soul one too

[onyx basin]

I still don't really know what Aquila meant

[muted cloud]

That... may be sub-optimal tho

[knotty stag]

eagle or somethin

[meager leaf]

it is a constellation

[onyx basin]

[knotty stag]

ah true

[onyx basin]

bad cops bad cops what you gonna doooo

[meager leaf]

i... dont know what to do with the theme

[shut gull]

😔

[forest coral]

@shut gull @fresh jacinth @prisma sparrow

[onyx basin]

Police game 😎

[karmic scroll]

cops vs aliens

[valid prairie]

Aquila in Latin == Eagle
I would have written a flying game

but police game?

ehhhh