#pyweek-game-jam | Python | Page 9

opaque dawn Sep 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Are people allowed to ask for help during the jam or no

muted cloud Sep 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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I did not realise that the pyweek actually ovoerlap alakajam

keen geode Sep 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yes! feel free to do so here, we are all here to learn so don't hesitate to ask

keen geode Sep 19, 2020, 11:05 PM

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35700 seconds left!

onyx basin Sep 19, 2020, 11:06 PM

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What's this?

tiny mesa Sep 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

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@onyx basin this is where the fun's at 🙂

opaque dawn Sep 19, 2020, 11:47 PM

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13 more minutes

finite mango Sep 19, 2020, 11:57 PM

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👋

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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"Castaway" is the theme!

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:01 AM

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THE THEME IS CASTAWAY

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ok

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i didn't plan this far

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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PyWeek 30 has begun and the theme is "Castaway"!

Development time ends at 00:00UTC next Sunday, 27th. You must have registered an entry with the site to upload a game!

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 12:03 AM

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woeful tree PyWeek 30 has begun and the theme is "Castaway"! Development time ends at 00:00...

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:04 AM

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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Wait

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goats*3 isn't the theme?

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Castaway won by a nose: https://pyweek.org/p/34/

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Well I actually voted for Castaway as #1 so this is still nice

pulsar seal Sep 20, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I did not have something in mind for Castaway. Time to get to brainstorming

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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i kinda had an idea

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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How about
goats stranded on an island

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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my idea for goats as brilliant

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YES

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Then you try to start a goat civilization

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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well

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AMAZING

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Good Luck Everyone!!

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:11 AM

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And THEN you enact your plans for world domination

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:12 AM

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and enslave humans into the hands of goats

pulsar seal Sep 20, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Pet goats of a clean cop stranded together on an island with a stranger that he met on a train when living in a dirty town... the game ends at sunrise.

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:12 AM

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now thats going a bit too far

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Some theme interpretations: "stranded on an island" with the twist from the 80's film "intentionally stranded with a random partner"; "going fishing"; "something that has been discarded"; "throwing something". Anyone had any others?

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:17 AM

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There's this flash game that I used to play, it's also called Castaway

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Its an RPG

pulsar seal Sep 20, 2020, 12:23 AM

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cast away could also just generally mean exile, in order to support non-island settings

languid drum Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Yay castaway was my #1

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 12:41 AM

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😢

storm tapir Sep 20, 2020, 1:03 AM

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YESSSSS THE THEME IS WHAT I WANTED

sacred marsh Sep 20, 2020, 1:04 AM

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it was my #5.. deja vu, was exactly the same in pyweek28... (also my least favorite)

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 1:04 AM

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What was your #1

sacred marsh Sep 20, 2020, 1:05 AM

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now I kind of want to make a volleyball sim for some reason 🤔

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Just add goats in your game

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Who can stop you

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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here's mine

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#1 Goats, Goats, Goats
#2 Sunrise
#3 Castaway
#4 Strangers on a train
#5 Clean Cop, Dirty Town

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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@woeful tree is the pyweek skellington still a thing?

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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skellington?

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Whatever you're making, dating sim? Add goats. Boom. Goat Dating Simulator. Cooking game? Goats. Cook a goat.

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The world is your oyster

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or goat

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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but i wanted goat platformer

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where you play 3 goats at once

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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@opaque dawn was a suggested project layout, to help people get some of the basics right

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:08 AM

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oh

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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What spot did the goats make it to?

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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#2

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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sadly

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Castaway won by a nose: https://pyweek.org/p/34/

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:09 AM

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castaway barely won

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Ah yeah

pulsar seal Sep 20, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Simiboi, you can still make a platformer with 3 goats... just make them jump up a rocky mountain on a deserted isle while being chased by a starving castaway

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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hmmm

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not the same

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it's fine

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i'll make a "Castaway" game

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Castaway seems like a quite good theme though, even if goats, goats, goats sound a bit more like something that would be a thing on the internet

storm tapir Sep 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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its a lot more flexible

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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yeah

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it can be flexible but i think a lot pf people will just go towards a game where you're stranded on an island

simple gull Sep 20, 2020, 1:47 AM

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i suspect the same haha

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 1:59 AM

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how far is everyone so far

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 2:00 AM

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im working on the sprites, @simple gull and i are on the same team

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 2:00 AM

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cool

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i made a player sprite, now i'm trying to get it to move

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 2:00 AM

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yeah, ok

proud ruinBOT Sep 20, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Hey @foggy nimbus!

It looks like you tried to attach file type(s) that we do not allow (.piskel). We currently allow the following file types: .3gp, .3g2, .avi, .bmp, .gif, .h264, .jpg, .jpeg, .mkv, .mov, .mp4, .mpeg, .mpg, .png, .tiff, .wmv, .svg, .psd, .ai, .aep, .xcf, .mp3, .wav, .ogg, .webm, .webp, .flac, .afdesign, .m4a.

Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 2:03 AM

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oh well

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 2:07 AM

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ohai @simple gull

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 2:17 AM

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is a main menu required or no

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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hmmmm... i dont know but it would probaly make it better

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i would definetly make time to program one

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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ok

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i'm gonna leave it aside for now

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 2:23 AM

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yep. just focus on the main part.

simple gull Sep 20, 2020, 2:38 AM

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is it just me or is the arcade documentation... kinda broken? there's references to methods in the examples that don't exist anymore

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easy enough to figure out by poking through the code, but, more bumps than i expected for a beginner orientated library

storm tapir Sep 20, 2020, 3:05 AM

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just finished writing the main outline for my game!

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 4:07 AM

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i've literally made the player movements and a few sprites. This is bad

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 4:26 AM

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yay our first PR to arcade is being written \o/

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@simple gull we haven't noticed so much of that, but it's a large API so we probably just haven't gotten there yet 😄

languid drum Sep 20, 2020, 4:36 AM

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I made it through the beeware tutorial and got an android build. It's a start

north copper Sep 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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hey

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can someone help me in this problem?

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📎 1111111.png

low tulip Sep 20, 2020, 6:03 AM

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type(obj)

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@north copper

north copper Sep 20, 2020, 6:53 AM

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type(obj)
@low tulip inp = input('enter your input',)
print(type(eval(inp)))

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i wrote this but its working only for int and float

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its showing error for str

ancient marlin Sep 20, 2020, 6:59 AM

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hey if anyone is free can u help me with a python program

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i need to create a program that as soon as it sees a string goes to dictionary and search if therre is a value for that string and ignores others

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from a file btw

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dm me if u think u can help

tiny mesa Sep 20, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Hi @ancient marlin if you would like help with your homework I suggest you try some of the other channels, this channel is dedicated to the PyWeek competition currently underway and we're all very busy with that

ancient marlin Sep 20, 2020, 7:50 AM

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oh ok

onyx basin Sep 20, 2020, 9:07 AM

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no goats democracy failed once again

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 9:49 AM

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do we really want 105 games about goats?
Well, that's what you're getting xD

lusty wasp Sep 20, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Evidently not

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:29 AM

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104 games about goats?

lusty wasp Sep 20, 2020, 10:45 AM

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The theme is not "goats goats goats", but maybe we'll see some games about castaway goats.

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 11:39 AM

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~~I'm still going with goats~~

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 12:08 PM

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The games will still have goats either way 🗿

olive gust Sep 20, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Goats was my lowest rated theme, ngl

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:20 PM

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what is pyweek?

muted cloud Sep 20, 2020, 12:20 PM

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A one week game jam with python. Check the pins ! 😉

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:23 PM

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eh C++ is better 100x in game developing

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:23 PM

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well that depends from person to person

muted cloud Sep 20, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Depends what your criterias are !

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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you can't completely say that

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Check google

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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google is different

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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<<< You Kidding ? >>>

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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google is made by ppl, and everyone has different opinions

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:24 PM

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C++ is faster has better performence

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while python is slow

muted cloud Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Assembly is faster and has better performance too, but good luck making a great game with it

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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lol

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Trust me Python weren't born for game development

muted cloud Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Trust me, lots of games were made with python

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Eh Assembly ?
You think I am a kid?

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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well this starts a debate lemon_swag

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Bye

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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?

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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I said B Y E

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Bye

lusty wasp Sep 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Bye!

pearl oxide Sep 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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hmm ok, bye! (weird)

muted cloud Sep 20, 2020, 12:26 PM

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bye

spark remnant Sep 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Wow, what's it like up there @zinc bone ?

muted cloud Sep 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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It looks fun up there with all your semicolons 😛

random sinew Sep 20, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Trust me Python weren't born for game development
@zinc bone what if I told you that it is used in most AAA games nowadays ☕

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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As much as I love python, packaging games with it kinda sucks tbh lol

ornate brook Sep 20, 2020, 1:10 PM

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@zinc bone I'm fairly certain it's a well-known fact that game development isn't Python's (or at least just pure Python) strongest suit, but there's no need to be a jerk about it. You seem to be misreading the purpose of PyWeek as well; it's not about making games in Python to prove a point, it's a community get-together that allows programmers of all skill levels to improve on their skills. Do be wary that if you'd probably want to drop this type of behaviour in other channels as well, treat this as a fair warning.

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 1:47 PM

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lol

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All of that only for me

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?

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@ornate brook You don't have a right to warn me as I said My Opinion/truth

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So Yub You didn't warn me

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Because You can't in this situation

low tulip Sep 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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can we use some absolutely basic funcs we use in other programs that I made eg. func that returns distance between two point

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?

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or do i need to just write them again

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?
@low tulip using the pythagoras formula

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or func where u pass two angles and returns angle between them

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Would we Close This Topic ???@ornate brook

low tulip Sep 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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pls answer mine question

ornate brook Sep 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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!warn 744136566854909982 For the record i haven't given you a formal warning, but you have one now. It's become clear to me that you're only here to incite childish drama without even acknowledging that the behaviour that you've exhibited is not what expect from you in this server. Contrary to what you believe, the moderation team has the right to apprehend you for your opinions if you're rude about it, in which case you were. If you have anything to appeal feel free to contact @lavish cipher. I'm not gonna ask again.

proud ruinBOT Sep 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @zinc bone.

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@low tulip wait for a sec

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@ornate brook God I told You it weren't rude as I said It is my oppinion You just Give me a warning without rights tell me how were my oppinion rude and remove the warning

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I wanna kow

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know*

low tulip Sep 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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did i just saw admin abuse on a mean guy

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I am mean?

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Behave!

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Understand ?

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!!

low tulip Sep 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200920_155712_com.discord.jpg

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yes i think ur mean

ornate brook Sep 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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!silence

proud ruinBOT Sep 20, 2020, 1:57 PM

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✅ silenced current channel for 10 minute(s).

visual glen Sep 20, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I don't like drama, can we please do without it? If you have an issue with people who use Python to develop games, you don't actually have to disrupt an entire channel with that opinion. And, yes, we will moderate if people disrupt channels with messages that don't contribute anything at all. That will be all.

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!unsilence

proud ruinBOT Sep 20, 2020, 2:01 PM

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✅ unsilenced current channel.

zinc bone Sep 20, 2020, 2:02 PM

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@visual glen Ok Would you please remove the warning

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I understand

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what u said

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@ornate brook Would You please Remove the warning? I understand

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 2:08 PM

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We just talk about goats here

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and the game jam, i guess

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How's everyone progressing?

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 2:49 PM

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i just woke up

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time to have 5 mental breakdowns

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 2:53 PM

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*5 goats

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yeah 1 for each breakdown

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Each goat may actually be a causing a breakdown

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Oh

dusty mist Sep 20, 2020, 3:01 PM

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what if the each goat is a trained therapist?

lusty wasp Sep 20, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Amazing, goats isn't even the chosen theme and we're still talking about goats 😛

sullen bear Sep 20, 2020, 3:07 PM

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lol

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Goats are amazing tho

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Goats are always funny whereas castaways are barely funny

strong oxide Sep 20, 2020, 3:46 PM

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castaways can be goats

gusty lodge Sep 20, 2020, 4:13 PM

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hiiiiiii

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🅱️ )

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I think this’ll be one will be remember as the PyWeek with goats, even though it isn’t the theme

gusty lodge Sep 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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castaway but you are a goat

compact glade Sep 20, 2020, 5:06 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411840819943833600/757267592267301054/image0.png

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Someone needs to redo this as a goat.

onyx basin Sep 20, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I don't doubt there will be at least one castaway goat project

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@compact glade I trust you to turn that into a goat

stuck ginkgo Sep 20, 2020, 6:43 PM

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🎶 pweek pweek 🎶

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I don't doubt there will be at least one castaway goat project
I don't want to give away our team secrets ~~but we're definitely doing goats~~ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 7:44 PM

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why did you leak our plans 😠 😤 what are we going to do now

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Goatier goats so that even if other teams know we do goats and steal our goats, their goats will be no match for our goats. PS: goat me, I can't goat goating the word goat.

onyx basin Sep 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Can someone explain what is pyweek

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@onyx basin Hey! I'd recommend having a look at the pins

onyx basin Sep 20, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Yeah I got it.

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Its about goats

gusty lodge Sep 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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G.O.A.T

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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G.O.A.T. = Goat Of All Time

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Goat help us all, we are turning into monsters.

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I have done it

📎 goat-progression.jpg

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Wait, really??

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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It's beautiful

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Indeed. Just add the text below

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Watches midway through they change the theme to goats cause everyone is making goats

vapid owl Sep 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Hahah wouldn’t surprise me

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 9:59 PM

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GOAT

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 9:59 PM

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GOATS

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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CASTAWAY

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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CASTAWAY GOATS

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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...

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CASTAWAY GOOAAATSSS

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i should add that

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:00 PM

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GOAT IN STONE ON CASTAWAY ISLAND

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 10:01 PM

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i man, castaway only won by a LITTLE bit

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:01 PM

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yes

foggy nimbus Sep 20, 2020, 10:01 PM

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i wanted goats goats goats

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so hows everyone going with their game dev?

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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not good

hearty niche Sep 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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is there a recommended window size for your game

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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i'm making mine 1200x800

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basically covers my entire screen

hearty niche Sep 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Well I dont want my game to not fit on some peoples screens

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so should i try something like that

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or just do 1920x1080

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

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sure

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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1920x1080 doesn't fit on my screen

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yeh

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i'm on a laptop and 800 height is the maximum

hearty niche Sep 20, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yeah thats what im worried abou

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I mean, I have a 4k screen but I usually run it at ½ resolution and window decorations take up 50px or so

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:21 PM

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making it smaller is better than making it too big too where it doesnt fit

woeful tree Sep 20, 2020, 10:21 PM

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So I have about 1800x1000 windowed

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:21 PM

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i'm working on the map for my game right now

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who else is doing pixel art

hearty niche Sep 20, 2020, 10:22 PM

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mauve is there a resolution you would recommend that would fit on most screens or should I make my window smaller and not overthink it too much

keen geode Sep 20, 2020, 10:33 PM

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You could scale your screen based on their resolution, or give the users an option for different resolutions

graceful dust Sep 20, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I have done it
@keen geode that is glorious!

opaque dawn Sep 20, 2020, 10:47 PM

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instead of stonehedge make goathedge

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i actually also head a great idea for the sunrise theme

gusty lodge Sep 20, 2020, 11:43 PM

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i'm making 600*600

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which is a big step because most of my previous games are like

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400*400

tepid atlas Sep 21, 2020, 12:32 AM

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🐐

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 12:52 AM

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i finished making the map for my game.

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I'm kinda far behind

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i think

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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now i'm working on a pause menu and inventory

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 2:17 AM

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imagine the theme turning out to be not GOATS

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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imagine

vagrant mason Sep 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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the theme was already released

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PyWeek has already started!

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see the pins

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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wait it has?

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ohh

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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yeh

simple gull Sep 21, 2020, 3:30 AM

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@foggy nimbus our game dev would be going better if you were editing levels and making sprites instead of playing Among Us 😄

tiny mesa Sep 21, 2020, 3:39 AM

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\o/

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we are going to have a lot of PRs against arcade and pytiled-parser at the end of this comp 🙂

elder jetty Sep 21, 2020, 4:18 AM

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hii

flint glade Sep 21, 2020, 10:34 AM

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ok

onyx basin Sep 21, 2020, 11:55 AM

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If I find a bug in a library I'm using, and solve it together with the library's maintainer, can I use the fix in my game? Or do I need to convince the maintainer to join my team?

random sinew Sep 21, 2020, 12:01 PM

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You can just use the fix

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The fix is publicly available, so everything's fine

lusty wasp Sep 21, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Yup, part of the whole point of PyWeek is to increase the quality of Python game libraries out there, this week is always good at unearthing these issues (I've already filed a handful of PRs too)

tiny mesa Sep 21, 2020, 12:35 PM

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our entry will be vendoring two libraries because we've had to fix bugs 🙂

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 1:39 PM

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It's a lot more stressful for me. I have to make everything in the game myself.

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From art to game mechanics to music (if I have enough time)

woeful tree Sep 21, 2020, 1:40 PM

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If it is a pure Python library you should just vendor it into your game

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If you need fixes that aren't in an upstream release

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You should of course send those fixes upstream too

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Ik

random sinew Sep 21, 2020, 1:44 PM

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You could also ask your package manager to fetch it from the upstream and specify the branch or commit you want ☕

novel storm Sep 21, 2020, 1:59 PM

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You play as a castaway on OpenGL Island.

📎 unknown.png

untold lily Sep 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Reminds me of Dippin' Dots

ripe blaze Sep 21, 2020, 3:23 PM

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@untold lily True

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:24 PM

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is pyweek, gonna be judged in YT

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pls judge pyweek in YT

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 3:25 PM

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(what's yt

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:25 PM

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not being mean(do u live under a rock)

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(what's yt
@gusty lodge youtube

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 3:26 PM

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i know yt is youtube but (it didn't much sense to me in that sentence

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ppl can post their gameplay on youtube

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but it should be judged by downloading others game and actually playing it

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ye they judge the jam like that so i asked them to judge the pyweek and make it available in YT

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the code jam is judged in YT that's why I asked

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 3:27 PM

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ohh

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i think pyweek is peer-judged

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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but it should be judged by downloading others game and actually playing it
@gusty lodge that's exactly what they do

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i think pyweek is peer-judged
@gusty lodge idk

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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there aren't any judges or -everyone is a judge

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check out the previous pyweeks

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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where?

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 3:28 PM

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go to pyweek.org and click Previous Challenges on the top bar

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:29 PM

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ok

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 3:29 PM

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also i think it's explained in rules as well

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:31 PM

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ok let me check

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where does it say how it is judged?

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oh it is there

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in rules

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but then it says this in the rules

If the game did not work for a judge, they may mark the game “Did Not Work”

I thought it was peers, where did judges come from

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what is meant by entrant cheated

graceful dust Sep 21, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Used assets made ahead of time, I guess.

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Or did not follow rules.

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 3:44 PM

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i see

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I dont understand rule 6, could anyone elucidate it to me

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ping me

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:01 PM

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@royal echo I think basically it means that you have to use art and music that is also available for other contestants publicly(and of course legally), or you have to have the music or art created by yourself or your team within pyweek. You shouldn't use any premade private assets for pyweek.

muted cobalt Sep 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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how i have to find a game i wanna make for pyweek

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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i see

muted cobalt Sep 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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bc it started right??

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 4:02 PM

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how i have to find a game i wanna make for pyweek
@muted cobalt theme

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

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and the public assets have to be available 30days prior to pyweek as well

muted cobalt Sep 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@royal echo thanks

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

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you can't make something a week before pyweek and use it

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 4:03 PM

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i dont understand what u said

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and the public assets have to be available 30days priors to pyweek as well
@gusty lodge what does this mean

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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the date when the asset was made public should be at least 30 days before pyweek commences

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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huh, what asset?

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the game?

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:04 PM

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assets you can use for pyweek

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like arts, libraries, music etc

royal echo Sep 21, 2020, 4:05 PM

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i see,

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thx

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:05 PM

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yw

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@muted cobalt you gotta brainstorm the game you are going to make

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the theme for pyweek30 is castaway

bleak flicker Sep 21, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Starting coding this night, good luck everyone !

muted cobalt Sep 21, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Is the event started yet??

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 4:44 PM

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a day ago yes

keen geode Sep 21, 2020, 4:52 PM

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is it possible to change the entry url later?

novel storm Sep 21, 2020, 4:57 PM

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No. You either come up with the perfect title now, or put off registering the entry until the last second.

keen geode Sep 21, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I see thanks, I'll settle with a name now

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 5:00 PM

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i usually just do myname-# for url

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xD

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you can change the game name anytime you want

woeful tree Sep 21, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I've looked into letting you change the entry URL but unfortunately it is used as the primary key in the database, making it very hard to migrate

novel storm Sep 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Every rock on this island is like three lines of code.

📎 unknown.png

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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How

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Me making map boundaries is like 10 lines of code

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I'm at 250,and all I have is character movement, a menu, and a map.

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I'm working on a pause menu and inventory system right now

keen geode Sep 21, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Its so pretty! How did you do the bloom? Is it with frag shader?

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 10:56 PM

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took me 775 lines to get here

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;-;

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📎 pygame_window_2020-09-21_19-51-50.mp4

novel storm Sep 21, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I love Python but I can never figure out the graphics libraries. So it's a web game with a Python backend and the screenshot is basically JavaScript. I'm using Bloom and DoF from https://vanruesc.github.io/postprocessing/.

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The backend implements all the logic, so hopefully it's okay by the rules.

pulsar seal Sep 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I'm also doing a web game, but using no backend (static site) and brython for the logic (client-side python)

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mine is remarkedly more 2D and pixel art though, because that's where my skillset is (not good with OpenGL or WebGL)

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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pygame probably isn't the best module to use

gusty lodge Sep 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

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okie

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;-;

opaque dawn Sep 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

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that game is looking good so far btw

vagrant mason Sep 21, 2020, 11:38 PM

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amazing looking games so far!

keen geode Sep 21, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Thats a nice library! Been wanting to get into three.js myself soon, maybe after this jam I could try it out

steep flume Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 AM

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;-;
@gusty lodge
took me 775 lines to get here
@gusty lodge

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#pyweek-game-jam message Share code pls

gusty lodge Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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ye it will be all open-sourced on git at release

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(but pretty sure no one enjoys looking at my ultra messy code

steep flume Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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🙂

gusty lodge Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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🙃

civic frost Sep 22, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Hello gents, what exactly is pyweek?

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Nvm, sorry for bothering i just read the pin messages

opaque dawn Sep 22, 2020, 12:40 AM

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a working messy code is better than an organized code which doesn't work.

tiny mesa Sep 22, 2020, 3:04 AM

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I've looked into letting you change the entry URL but unfortunately it is used as the primary key in the database, making it very hard to migrate
@woeful tree really need to just random generate those URL bits 😦

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it was a bad design from the start, I'm so sorry

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The fourth or so iteration of the look of our game, feeling pretty good about this one though. Working title in title bar 😄

📎 unknown.png

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We have significant amounts of game code now in ECS. Time for lunch now tho!

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ECS is sooo good. This is the first time I've worked on a game really going all out with it. We're using esper from pypi.

daring sleet Sep 22, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I haven't even started yet 😩

royal echo Sep 22, 2020, 5:35 AM

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i dont have any ideas

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for casteaway

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any ideas guys?

pearl oxide Sep 22, 2020, 5:36 AM

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goat goat goat

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you are a goat traveller

daring sleet Sep 22, 2020, 5:53 AM

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@royal echo you are stuck on an island with a million 🐐 . You can name it "HERD THEM"

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lemon_xd

royal echo Sep 22, 2020, 5:53 AM

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lool

random sinew Sep 22, 2020, 6:56 AM

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@novel storm is it a custom shader?

novel storm Sep 22, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Which one? 🙂 The two post-processing effects are from https://vanruesc.github.io/postprocessing/. But there is a simple custom shader on the water. Just to ensure that I spend half a day figuring out that 1 is invalid in GLSL and you have to write 1.0.

tiny mesa Sep 22, 2020, 7:13 AM

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"bees working as expected" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjiudDo3c0

YouTube

Richard Jones

Bees working as expected

This is a work in progress, part of an entry to the PyWeek 30 challenge currently underway (pyweek.org)

▶ Play video

graceful dust Sep 22, 2020, 7:29 AM

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"bees working as expected"
Are those .... worker bees?

royal echo Sep 22, 2020, 7:30 AM

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what are some ideas yall have for pyweek

pearl oxide Sep 22, 2020, 7:32 AM

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secret goat! lemon_swag lemon_fingerguns_shades

royal echo Sep 22, 2020, 7:32 AM

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beside that

pearl oxide Sep 22, 2020, 7:33 AM

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hmmm, secret || 🐐 🐐 ||

royal echo Sep 22, 2020, 7:34 AM

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beside that

pearl oxide Sep 22, 2020, 7:39 AM

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well, you are a ship that crashes on an island and you fight dinosauras over there and you have 🐐 as your friends

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and all others are ducky_devil

royal echo Sep 22, 2020, 7:43 AM

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ye

graceful dust Sep 22, 2020, 8:20 AM

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what are some ideas yall have for pyweek
||You crash your boat on a giant goat||
||You are also a (much smaller) goat||

stuck ginkgo Sep 22, 2020, 12:42 PM

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dude all these submissions are so much better than mine

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reeee

gusty lodge Sep 22, 2020, 12:46 PM

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secret rule

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you have to add goat as an Easter egg

thick stag Sep 22, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I'm probably missing something incredibly obvious but what is pyweek?

gusty lodge Sep 22, 2020, 4:03 PM

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it's py4days now if you start

muted cloud Sep 22, 2020, 5:20 PM

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C'est parti pour py4days !!

daring sleet Sep 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

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WHOA A PYGAME CHAMPION.
🙇‍♂️

muted cloud Sep 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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😂

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Wow I did not even realise I wrote in french... so :
Let's go for py4days !!

onyx basin Sep 22, 2020, 5:37 PM

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#help-kiwi

novel storm Sep 22, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Not everything meets its full potential on our humble island.

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📎 unknown.png

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I have rounded corners at least, so that's a start.

naive orbit Sep 22, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Lol

sacred marsh Sep 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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rounded corners are the basis of perfection, that's why Apple wanted to apply for trademark protection for squares with rounded corners

vapid owl Sep 22, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I think we all would want to trademark that, just to be able to say "I trademarked rectangles with rounded corners"

manic sedge Sep 22, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Hey PyWeek, short question about the rules
Are we allowed to use discord.ext.menus (https://github.com/Rapptz/discord-ext-menus) because on the readme it says

There are no front-facing docs for this and it's not on PyPI. As this is meant to be a repository for testing
but it also provides examples on how to create menus in a "getting started" section

We're wondering if this meets the conditions in 2.c

You may use libraries that were created before the competition if and only if...
...the index page (eg. README/PyPI page) contains, or links to, a documentation resource that describes the features of the library and contains thorough API documentation; and,

We're presuming not but are unsure

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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@manic sedge I think that looks borderline, because the README probably isn't sufficient documentation to actually get going with the library, though it isn't far off

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But I'm not going to be the one judging

exotic lava Sep 22, 2020, 9:41 PM

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hello, friends. Reading the pyweek rules, the answer seems obviously a "no"

but is it allowed to use paid assets with commercial license? I have thousands of assets from humble bundle for the type of game we are making (with appropriate license to use for a commercial project), but it appears this violates pyweek rules. Can anyone confirm for me?

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:42 PM

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@exotic lava It isn't allowed, because we want to create a level playing field for people who can't afford to buy commercial assets

exotic lava Sep 22, 2020, 9:43 PM

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tyvm, yes I figured. I wanted to confirm before I decided not to use all those juicy assets 😢

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I have also bought some commercial asset packs from Humble Bundle

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But I knew that I wouldn't be able to use them in a PyWeek entry

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You also can't use them in open source projects, FWIW

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I think the rule is right and exists for the right reason, but it is a big drawback that it rules out things you could use any other time you're writing a game

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:48 PM

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@woeful tree can you clarify what the following part of the rules means?

you use only the files published. For example, you may not publish only PNG files but use source SVG files in your game.

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from https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#existing-artwork-music-and-sound-effects-may-be-used

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:49 PM

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@twilit canopy If you had SVG files, and you render them to PNGs, and you publish the PNGs, but keep the SVGs to yourself, you can't use the SVG files in your game

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:49 PM

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by "had" do you mean for ones that we acquired from somewhere?

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:49 PM

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SVGs being more editable/remixable than PNG files

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:49 PM

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also, by published do you mean released as a downloadable zip?

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:50 PM

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But "had" I'm supposing that you created the files

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:50 PM

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my understanding is that "publishing" here means the final submission as specified here https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#final-submission

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:50 PM

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No

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Publishing means sharing with the world, any how you like

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Ah, so then it is a requirement that the files that we release as part of the game be remixable

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is that correct?

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:51 PM

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No

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It's a requirement for the files that you use to build your game

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I'm still confused by how you would manage to violate the rule when releasing the game then

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I don't think there is a rule that says that your game or its graphics need to be under a remixable license

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That's rule 8, in fact

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That's for anything you create during the contest

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Anything that existed before the contest and which you use, needs to be under a remixable license

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:54 PM

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So

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to make sure I understand this correctly

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if we render SVG to png, then to be in full compliance with the rules, we should also ship the SVG files?

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or are we expected to load from SVG files directly?

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 9:56 PM

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No, you're mixing up inputs and outputs.

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The output of PyWeek - your submission - can include whatever materials you want

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The rules about art and sound cover inputs to your game: preexisting files that you want to use in your game.

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Anything you create during the week is not an input

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Ok, that helps a little bit

pulsar seal Sep 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I spent almost 3 hours animating this today. At this rate, I'll be done with art and ready to code by about Saturday. The other enemies are going to have to be half-baked.

📎 golem.gif

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I'm still not sure I entirely understand 2.c

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@pulsar seal you might be able to generate some of it programmatically if the enemies are abstract like this one

pulsar seal Sep 22, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I thought about that for this one, but didn't expect manual to take 3 hours lol

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I was thinking "oh, it'll be like 8 animation frames... nope, 16.

woeful tree Sep 22, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Ok, say I have some data x. And I have some process that alters it, f, so y = f(x). Then I can't upload y to freegameart.org before the competition and during the competition actually use x.

twilit canopy Sep 22, 2020, 10:02 PM

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ahhh

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ok, i see what you mean

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about this entirely being about pre-existing materials, ok

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I think that makes sense in the context of having pre-existing source versions of assets.

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ok, ty

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I don't think it applies to our group then, ty for clarifying.

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To be sure I understand fully, assume someone else made a source SVG or 3d model under CC(A) or as public domain 30 days or more before the competition. Are we free to render that to PNG and use it in the game as long as we cite it?

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@woeful tree

languid drum Sep 22, 2020, 10:22 PM

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if I could have just as easily made the png for my game of that asset as you, then yeah

olive gust Sep 22, 2020, 10:36 PM

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wip

📎 unknown.png

graceful dust Sep 22, 2020, 11:00 PM

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last 3 art pieces in here have had 0 goats, for a rate of 0%. You neutral pronoun in the plural form gotta step up your 🐐 game if you wanna win this.

keen geode Sep 23, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I don't know what to do with this lol

📎 unknown.png

lethal halo Sep 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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looks like texture ig

keen geode Sep 23, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yooo I got tile adjacency to work

📎 unknown.png

tiny mesa Sep 23, 2020, 8:56 AM

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that looks real nice

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Fling! https://youtu.be/6Jzc13IVf60

YouTube

Richard Jones

Fling!

Cast away robot will still have fun!

▶ Play video

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(yay, we officially have "cast away" in our game now 🙂 )

frail wharf Sep 23, 2020, 10:16 AM

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wher was that thing caste awayed to?

keen geode Sep 23, 2020, 10:43 AM

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SPIN

📎 SPPPIIINNNN.gif

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@woeful tree pushes are sometimes reported under the wrong person; https://pyweek.org/latest/ "WIP Pie menu" wasn't committed or pushed by me

woeful tree Sep 23, 2020, 11:38 AM

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@lusty wasp I think it is just collapsing "rdb and Unknown user" to "rdb"

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 12:16 PM

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@woeful tree I'll ask my teammates to add their GitHub name to their profile, but this seems like a bug

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@woeful tree spam? https://pyweek.org/d/7088/

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There are three of those threads

woeful tree Sep 23, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Thanks, deleted

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Unfortunately the admin "Delete Spammer" button has broken

pearl oxide Sep 23, 2020, 1:40 PM

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@lusty wasp thanks for your stubborn goat award 😉

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 3:38 PM

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oh no i missed 3 days

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i missed the announcement

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now i have to grind lol

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did i miss the start deadline?

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i can't see anything on the site about registering a github repo or making a diary

muted cloud Sep 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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It's okay, I haven't done anything yet either 😛

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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then how do i make it track a github repository?

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or how do i make a diary entry

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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@onyx basin you have to register an entry on the site, click your name in top-right and Register Entry

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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oh ok, i thought that was only for teams

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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You just register as a 1-person team

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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ok

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can i use free assets I find online?

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specifically coins, spiders, and a player

daring sleet Sep 23, 2020, 3:58 PM

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yes you can

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I think

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does anyone have any resource for learning how to program pygame games using tilemaps?

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@onyx basin yes, but depends on the license

pearl oxide Sep 23, 2020, 5:02 PM

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hey rdb, can you share a link in which last year someone made a good project with arcade for pyweek

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pls 🥺

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I have no idea which projects used Arcade, sorry

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I can show you some good past Panda3D projects though

pearl oxide Sep 23, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yes, you made one!

lusty wasp Sep 23, 2020, 5:03 PM

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A few 🙂

pearl oxide Sep 23, 2020, 5:03 PM

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well if anyone finds one please ping me and put it here

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you had made the hobbet's ascend with panda 3d

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it was really nice

daring sleet Sep 23, 2020, 5:13 PM

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can we use discord emojis?

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like as in is there a license or anything?

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like if I want to use 😸 or anything?

pearl oxide Sep 23, 2020, 5:14 PM

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you can use twitter emojis, you won't find pngs, svgs of this

vapid owl Sep 23, 2020, 5:22 PM

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There are Twemojis (what discord uses, at least on desktop). They’re open source, so you can check out the GH repo for it. Svgs and everything is there

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You’ll have to take a look at the exact license, though

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https://github.com/twitter/twemoji

GitHub

twitter/twemoji

Emoji for everyone. https://twemoji.twitter.com/. Contribute to twitter/twemoji development by creating an account on GitHub.

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@daring sleet

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 5:30 PM

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how long does it take for the pyweek website to update?

daring sleet Sep 23, 2020, 5:33 PM

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okay thanks @pearl oxide @vapid owl

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 6:12 PM

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also, does anyone here know how to make one sprite appear behind another in arcade?

graceful dust Sep 23, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Just draw them one over the other.

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They will be drawn in the order that they are in the code.

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Like if you draw a ground layer, and on top of that the player layer, and a foundation layer... the player will simply be shown above the ground.

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 6:18 PM

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alright, thanks

graceful dust Sep 23, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I guess the more precise answer is if you want it to appear behind.... draw it first 😄

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Then whatever you want in front.

onyx basin Sep 23, 2020, 6:20 PM

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it worked, thank you!

steady jacinth Sep 23, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Made asteroid shape randomisation with perlin noise

📎 4iFTvBHpSJ.mp4

stuck ginkgo Sep 23, 2020, 8:56 PM

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how are the entries judged?

muted cobalt Sep 23, 2020, 9:25 PM

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is pygame a good module for pyweek??

muted cloud Sep 23, 2020, 9:44 PM

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yes

gusty lodge Sep 23, 2020, 10:13 PM

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how are the entries judged?
@stuck ginkgo by other entrants

languid drum Sep 23, 2020, 11:07 PM

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I used pygame for pyweek for most of the 15 years I've done it, it was very fun to work with. it's so simple but you still have to do all the things. you can get good performance if you keep the resolution low

stuck ginkgo Sep 24, 2020, 12:24 AM

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ohh thank you

gusty lodge Sep 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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lil map

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📎 pygame_window_2020-09-23_21-54-26.mp4

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:DDDDDD

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I used pygame for every pyweek entry as well, it's simple but you will need to write a lot of structural stuffs by yourself.

frail wharf Sep 24, 2020, 1:16 AM

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arcade is nice

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 1:29 AM

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I love the cute minimap lol

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How did you implement the raft building mechanic?

tawdry night Sep 24, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I'm working on VSC live share and the person who's hosting the live share causes my screen to scroll to them whenever they move their cursor or type or anything. How do I disable this

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nvm

gusty lodge Sep 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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How did you implement the raft building mechanic?
@keen geode i literally used an if statement for every possible way of expanding the raft

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pretty sure there are better ways

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lol

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Lol I’m trying to implement a raft building mechanic as well buts its more of a ship with guns and stuff

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Was going to use pymunk so I can have rotation but I keep running into problems using it lemon_sentimental

tender raptor Sep 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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How do I edit a diary entry in the pyweek website?

gusty lodge Sep 24, 2020, 2:37 AM

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@tender raptor scroll to your diary entry, click add comment, scroll down

tender raptor Sep 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Oh I see, that's deceiving

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Alright thanks

gusty lodge Sep 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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yw, it was pretty hard to find

weary plaza Sep 24, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Is pyweek event ended?

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I forgot to participate in it

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I registered in it

pearl oxide Sep 24, 2020, 5:04 AM

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nope

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2 days left and 19 hrss

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:37 AM

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how often does pyweek happen?

muted cloud Sep 24, 2020, 8:37 AM

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twice a year

toxic osprey Sep 24, 2020, 8:56 AM

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wait whats pyweek??

lusty wasp Sep 24, 2020, 8:58 AM

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@toxic osprey see pins and website

toxic osprey Sep 24, 2020, 8:59 AM

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okioki

lusty wasp Sep 24, 2020, 8:59 AM

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In short, a semiannual week-long game jam that requires games to be written in Python

solid star Sep 24, 2020, 10:05 AM

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I see some people are using the new low level rendering api in arcade. Fun 🙂

acoustic crown Sep 24, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Goodluck guys!

novel storm Sep 24, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I made the terrible choice of trying to do ragdolls.

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It took ages, but it's the funniest thing to debug. I added the nose and it started falling on its face. I realized the nose weighed as much as the whole thing. I fixed that, but it's still falling on the face.

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Turns out I had the ears on the bottom by accident.

lusty wasp Sep 24, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Haha

novel storm Sep 24, 2020, 5:02 PM

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A Crocohen approaches!

📎 unknown.png

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Needless to say I'm writing these characters as dicts and lists. Not learning Blender was a bad idea.

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I forgot to participate in it
@weary plaza same, I only started yesterday

novel storm Sep 24, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I've spent all day on the frontend code but my teammates are writing a lot of Python code. I see classes have attributes like inspiration, loyalty, default_hankering, attention. Wonder what is going on over there...

sullen bear Sep 24, 2020, 7:22 PM

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hahahahah nose physics

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Needless to say I'm writing these characters as dicts and lists. Not learning Blender was a bad idea.
@novel storm by this do you mean that all the dimensions, colors and positions are in dicts and lists and then they're dunamically rendered based on those lists at runtime?

novel storm Sep 24, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Yes 😭

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What you see above is written like this:

{
    'size': [0.8, 0.8, 1.5],
    'color': '#691',
    'children': [
      { 'size': [0.1, 0.3, 0.3], 'dir': 'up', 'color': '#900' },
      { 'size': [0.4, 0.2, 0.2], 'dir': 'left' },
      { 'size': [0.4, 0.2, 0.2], 'dir': 'right' },
      {
        'size': [0.5, 0.5, 0.5],
        'dir': 'back',
        'offset': [0, 0, -0.25],
        'children': [
          {
            'size': [0.4, 0.5, 0.4],
            'dir': 'back',
            'children': [{ 'size': [0.3, 0.5, 0.3], 'dir': 'back' }],
          },
        ],
      },
    ],
  }

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:40 PM

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ouch

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Maybe you could make a use for that, like making them explode or dismembering them

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:41 PM

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my game is constantly performing expensive calculations for each bullet and each spider

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and it's quite slow

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am I allowed to use C/C++ to speed up calculations?

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i'm not writing the entire game in C

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just that calculation

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is that allowed?

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I think its alright as long as the game is mainly python

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:43 PM

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huh

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let me look in the pyweek rules

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you may include code written in supporting languages (eg. C/C++ or Rust libraries, Javascript/HTML in web pages, and so on), if that code does not implement “game logic”.

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i think i'm good then

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because this doesn't count as game logic right?

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it's just calculating the angle of movement

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yes, what’s the calculation you are doing in C/C++?

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:49 PM

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i want to calculate the angle between my player and the mouse

woeful tree Sep 24, 2020, 8:49 PM

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It's absolutely allowed but bear in mind that many users will not have a compiler

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I dont think calculating the angle of movement should take that much processing

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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yeah but i'm running it a lot

woeful tree Sep 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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math.atan2() is implemented in C

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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oh, then i won't need it then

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thanks!

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also it's not processing power but rather the speed

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i want the calculation to be faster

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i'll just keep it on the python side then

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Keep in mind that math.atan2()takes y, x not x, y

woeful tree Sep 24, 2020, 8:53 PM

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How many times per frame are you running this?

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If you needed to go faster, I imagine there's a numpy.atan2(ys, xs)

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https://numpy.org/doc/stable/reference/generated/numpy.arctan2.html

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 8:57 PM

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every time that arcade.Window.on_update() is called

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whcih is ~60 times per second IIRC

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numpy.arctan2 seems cool, i'll check it out

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 9:00 PM

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So its only once per update, that doesnt take much to run. Your performance problem could be somewhere else

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 9:01 PM

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hmm

sacred marsh Sep 24, 2020, 9:01 PM

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it takes 0.13 seconds on my PC to perform 1 million atan2

>>> timeit.timeit('math.atan2(1.1, 2.2)', 'import math')
0.12952388898702338

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 9:01 PM

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huh

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i'll try to investigate, thanks to all of you!

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 9:02 PM

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What framework are you using?

onyx basin Sep 24, 2020, 9:02 PM

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arcade

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are math.cos and math.sin also implemented in C?

novel storm Sep 24, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Yeah, that should all be fast.

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You can always benchmark something like @sacred marsh showed.

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Even then you probably don't need a million calculations of these

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unless

gusty lodge Sep 24, 2020, 9:11 PM

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🐐

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 9:12 PM

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YES GOATS 🐐

vapid owl Sep 24, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Yess!! Goats

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well played. you beat me to it @keen geode

keen geode Sep 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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When it comes to goats, I do not falter

vapid owl Sep 24, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I honestly can’t wait to see all ~~goat~~ cast away games

graceful dust Sep 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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@lusty wasp ^ 🐐 https://pyweek.org/e/chrisyan2000-30/ 🐐

sacred marsh Sep 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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so... hands up for everyone of the 115 entries actually planning to upload a final entry? I spent like 10+ hours on testing the 23 a year ago... not sure I can spend an entire workweek just testing pyweek entries this time around 👀

woeful tree Sep 24, 2020, 9:35 PM

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The website was built to randomise the order of entries with the assumption that you wouldn't rate all of them

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Not sure whether the newer ratings dashboard is as random

lusty wasp Sep 24, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I seem to recall that it originally sorted it by fewest ratings first

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I would give yarolig the Stubborn Goat award if their goat didn't look more like a cat…

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It's called goat.png, I guess that's good enough

muted cobalt Sep 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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what happens if i dont submit entry??

sacred marsh Sep 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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@muted cobalt pretty much nothing.. other than nobody being able to enjoy your game and rate it afterwards

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just don't put pressure on yourself. If you get it done, great, otherwise there'll be another PyWeek in 6 months 🤷

lusty wasp Sep 24, 2020, 10:17 PM

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It gets marked as "DNF" if you don't have a submission marked "final"

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It will not participate in the judging and you just have it listed as "DNF" on your profile

woeful tree Sep 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I don't really like the DNFs on the profile

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In the sense of being like you failed if you didn't submit a final entry

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Maybe it should pull split the table into "Challenge Entries" and "Unfinished Projects"

languid drum Sep 24, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I've been spending most of the week fixing ios bugs for beeware instead of working on the game part of my game, so DNF looks to be in my future

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well... another DNF

muted cloud Sep 25, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Well I was busy at school and started mine a few hours ago... if you have time on the weekend, you can still make something you like 😉

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 12:36 AM

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haven't done anything yesterday so trying to catch up

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gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 2:15 AM

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we had a very similar idea ;))))

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 2:41 AM

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yours already functional I'm still trying to implement the collision lol 😄

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its supposed to have rotation but pymunk is giving me a headache so i decided not to

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 2:42 AM

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it's because i'm not working plus school is not very busy this week

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((;

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 2:46 AM

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do you allow non rectangular shapes in your raft?

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I'm trying to go over how i would do the collision since its not rectangular

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 2:52 AM

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i just used grid collision

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so it minimizes computing time

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 2:54 AM

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sadly i can't do that if I want my ship to be not rect :(((

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I think I have to check each tile unless I figure out another way

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 2:56 AM

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um pretty sure you can still use grid collision if your ship is consist of tiles

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make the grid so that the empty ones aren't considered for the collision

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 2:57 AM

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what do you mean by grid collision?

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 3:01 AM

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i store my tiles in a 2d array

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and i just figure out which tiles is it on by integer division

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 3:02 AM

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you do that for each corner of the raft tile, right?

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 3:02 AM

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and check if there's stuff on that tile

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xD

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depends

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i made my islands in such a way that only a few corners need to be checked

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as for the player I just used two points at the player's feet

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 3:04 AM

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ohh i see

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 3:06 AM

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it looks awesome @keen geode @gusty lodge

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 3:08 AM

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thank you :DDD

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 3:10 AM

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😄 thanks but he has goats so 🐐

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 3:41 AM

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i guess i could just check the boundary tiles

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thinkmon

daring sleet Sep 25, 2020, 4:40 AM

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lemon_thinking

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@gusty lodge that looks so goood :C I can never make anything like that lol

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 4:55 AM

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uh oh

📎 AAAAAAAAAA.gif

tiny mesa Sep 25, 2020, 7:28 AM

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https://imgur.com/e6O8WAU

Imgur

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 7:29 AM

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YES GOAT

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 8:03 AM

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@tiny mesa aesome!

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yo guys are so ahead

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i am so behind 😦

tiny mesa Sep 25, 2020, 8:17 AM

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hah so goes pyweek 🙂 it's all a learning experience (this week has been no different)

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 8:27 AM

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which lib did u use?

frail wharf Sep 25, 2020, 8:45 AM

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pyweek finished?

tiny mesa Sep 25, 2020, 8:47 AM

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pyweek runs for another 36 hours or so

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@pearl oxide we're using arcade, which has had its moments

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we're also using esper, and the ECS approach has been really interesting to use (first time for me)

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 8:50 AM

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python arcade?

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that is aweessome then!

novel storm Sep 25, 2020, 8:53 AM

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@tiny mesa At the start you said Esper is awesome. Did it hold up?

tiny mesa Sep 25, 2020, 8:53 AM

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it's really good, and the ECS architecture has made the game so much better and less a total mess than my previous games

novel storm Sep 25, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Thanks. I'll try it one day. I couldn't sell it to the team this time.

tiny mesa Sep 25, 2020, 8:54 AM

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haha, too bad, better luck next time 🙂

novel storm Sep 25, 2020, 8:56 AM

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They love adding new libraries at work, so my argument for Esper was, "look a new library!" I don't know how I failed...

muted cloud Sep 25, 2020, 9:11 AM

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whaaat pyweek doesn't end sunday 😱

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I'm screwd 😱

worn scarab Sep 25, 2020, 9:32 AM

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hello

urban violet Sep 25, 2020, 9:44 AM

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I guess ill admit i bit more than i could chew, so giving up on pyweek for now :/, hopefully i can do better next time

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 9:45 AM

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jkndnjl

graceful dust Sep 25, 2020, 9:54 AM

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whaaat pyweek doesn't end sunday 😱
It does... at midnight UTC 😅

sacred marsh Sep 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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@urban violet that's also a very important thing to learn and what game jams are good for. the more you try the better you get at judging what can be achieved in a limited amount of time. another good learning experience that you could apply now, would be to cut down your project you started to a minimal viable product in the time you got left. see if you can't make a (much) smaller version of what you had planned... There's usually always a handful of participants that manage to submit an entry with only a single day left

muted cloud Sep 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Yep, but we have about 0 seconds sunday to code 😛

urban violet Sep 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Dude, thats some good encouragement, I guess I'll trim down the bigger features like you said, thanks a lot! @sacred marsh

sacred marsh Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 AM

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had other people doing that for me in the past, just balancing the scales 😉

tiny mesa Sep 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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now for the biggest challenge of the week: seeing if I can get the game packaged (beyond the source zip, that's easy)

graceful dust Sep 25, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Yep, but we have about 0 seconds sunday to code 😛
That depends on your time zone lol. In Honolulu, you have -10 hours from Sunday. If you're in Auckland, you have 12 hours 🤓

dull moss Sep 25, 2020, 11:08 AM

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i don't think anyone can pull an all-nighter from 12am to 8am

random sinew Sep 25, 2020, 11:12 AM

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You’d be surprised

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Deadlines would like to speak with you

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 11:56 AM

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git commit global_warming

📎 DEFORESTATION.gif

novel storm Sep 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

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We're making a hero collecting ("gatcha") game. But until today we just built the framework and just had a single hero, "cube". Now we're rushing to build the actual heroes.

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At the start of the week we had very imaginative ideas for hero abilities. But now that implementation is upon us and time is short, our ideas are like "this hero can hit" or "this hero moves slowly".

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 2:24 PM

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i love gacha games!

novel storm Sep 25, 2020, 3:04 PM

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What's your favorite?

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 3:19 PM

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i used to play a game called battle cats and i loved it

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there goes my title page

frail wharf Sep 25, 2020, 3:25 PM

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nice

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 3:36 PM

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wooohooo!!!

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awesome

strong juniper Sep 25, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Your work is very impressive chris joelsephThumbsUp

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 3:39 PM

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:333 thank you

strong juniper Sep 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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What library are you using for your project?

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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pygame i think he is using

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.really your work is awesome

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too good

strong juniper Sep 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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I don't know if there's a way to quit I guess just don't submit anything

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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What library are you using for your project?
@strong juniper ye i'm using pygame only );

pearl oxide Sep 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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what do you mean by #31 @onyx basin

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oh

daring sleet Sep 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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that is some great work @gusty lodge

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All I have been able to achieve is some blinking dots on a map lol

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📎 unknown.png

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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it looks pretty cool :DDD

daring sleet Sep 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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😄 thanks but it isn't really that cool 😛

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 7:08 PM

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does anyone know how to make a sprite partially transparent?

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i'm making it so that my character can swim

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i want the water to be part transparent

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

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ik how to do that in pygame only

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you blit it on a transparent surface then blit that surface

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📎 pygame_window_2020-09-25_16-37-42_Trim.mp4

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finally got it finished in time, now it's bug testing );

graceful dust Sep 25, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Damn, that's one sexy looking ~~goat~~ game

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Yooo that looks great!

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In arcade, there's the alpha variable in the Sprite class, it takes a number from 0 - 255

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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rip my framerate 😭 😢

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olive gust Sep 25, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Can shoot arrows now!

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gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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woooa

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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all of you guys have flashy start screens with animations

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meanwhile i just have

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this

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graceful dust Sep 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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~~you guys have screens?~~

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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lol

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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lol no main menu for me 😢

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📎 BON_VOYAGEEEE.gif

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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pygame can't rotate images like that );

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I think its slowly turning into a pirate game

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wait can it not?

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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how is the guy walking on water

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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oh yeah transform.rotate makes a copy of the Surface and modifies it

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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is he jesus?

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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he's the messiah

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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why does he need a raft then

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can't he just walk home

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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raft jesus

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cause he thinks its cool

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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rafts are pretty cool

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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and he's going fishing

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with guns

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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...oh

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i didn;t want to have to apply a speprate slowdown for each spider so i just made the water kill spiders

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it's somewhat scientifically acurate

vapid owl Sep 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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You’re all making some truly great things. A big, big wow to you

onyx basin Sep 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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i'll make more start screen tips tomorrow

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actually nvm 4 is enough

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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pygame.transform.rotate stretch the image if it's not a square

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;-;

woeful tree Sep 25, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I don't think that's true, there is a Pygame surface rotation function that works just fine, without distortion

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We use it in pygame zero

keen geode Sep 25, 2020, 10:27 PM

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but it copies the Surface and returns a new one doesn't it?

woeful tree Sep 25, 2020, 10:28 PM

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pygame.transform.rotate()

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Yes

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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ooo i will try it out

urban violet Sep 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@gusty lodge make a copy of the image before transforming it so that you dont do the transformations on the distorted image but the original one, it'll prevent unpredictable morphing

gusty lodge Sep 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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i usually make my image square shaped if i want to use pygame's rotate

keen geode Sep 26, 2020, 12:30 AM

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hoo boy 24 hours left

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*23.5

gusty lodge Sep 26, 2020, 12:40 AM

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woo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO9i5V4duRQ

YouTube

Jeff Yan

Pyweek 30 "Castaway" entry: Alone in the sea

It's my pyweek 30 entry~
for more info please check the pyweek site:
https://pyweek.org/e/chrisyan2000-30/

▶ Play video

vapid owl Sep 26, 2020, 1:08 AM

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That looks amazing

sacred marsh Sep 26, 2020, 1:24 AM

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https://youtu.be/WQ-5xjm4KP0

YouTube

tcdude

Obbo's Descent - PyWeek 30

This is a first play through of our entry to PyWeek 30...
Still a bit buggy, but we're really happy with what our team was able to accomplish in such short time!!

Check it out and check out our entry here: https://pyweek.org/e/space-e/

▶ Play video

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oh.. we forgot to put a goat in our entry 😩

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I can still hide one somewhere

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 7:40 AM

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It's pyday

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 7:42 AM

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whoops. our github repos was private, derp. it's public now https://github.com/r1chardj0n3s/masa-01

GitHub

r1chardj0n3s/masa-01

Contribute to r1chardj0n3s/masa-01 development by creating an account on GitHub.

woeful tree Sep 26, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Probably a bit later for this PyWeek, but if you have late-stage performance problems in your game, I have made a vector library that might be helpful: https://github.com/lordmauve/wasabigeom

The vec2 class is optimised and very fast; everything else just a bit faster than pure Python.

GitHub

lordmauve/wasabigeom

Contribute to lordmauve/wasabigeom development by creating an account on GitHub.

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I didn't have time to participate in PyWeek but I'm happy I found a few moments to hack

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 8:19 AM

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@woeful tree can we use assets from unity store?

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https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/2d/characters/hero-knight-pixel-art-165188 like this

Hero Knight - Pixel Art | 2D Characters | Unity Asset Store

Elevate your workflow with the Hero Knight - Pixel Art asset from Sven Thole. Find this & more Characters on the Unity Asset Store.

woeful tree Sep 26, 2020, 8:22 AM

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No, looks like the license requires you to have a Unity license

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 8:22 AM

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😦 and if we have a unity license then?

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then are we allowed to use them @woeful tree ?

random sinew Sep 26, 2020, 8:23 AM

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The licence is probably bound to only allow the assets to be used in Unity

woeful tree Sep 26, 2020, 8:23 AM

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No, see rule 6.2.b: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 8:23 AM

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yes i saw that, that's why i was asking

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 8:43 AM

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yeah, the spirit of that rule is to level the playing field a bit: we don't want cashed-up folks to be able to buy amazing assets that others won't be able to.

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briefly stops adding easter eggs to the game, in order to cook his dinner

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 8:44 AM

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No, see rule 6.2.b: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html
Would be nice to allow assets that are not under an OSI license (in the future) ... a lot of great free assets on itch.io that you can use in games, but not redistribute as assets.

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Kind of takes away the focus on python if you need to also find an artist :p

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So I would be in favour of loosening the restrictions.... but is just an idea 😄

sour lintel Sep 26, 2020, 8:54 AM

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When submitting the final solution. Should it just be a zip file with all the files or should we compile it to an exe file? 🙂

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 8:57 AM

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@woeful tree is MIT license allowed?

random sinew Sep 26, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Yes, that's OSI approved

frail wharf Sep 26, 2020, 8:58 AM

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what is meant b liscense

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 9:23 AM

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or you could learn to make your own assets of course 😇

solid star Sep 26, 2020, 9:32 AM

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📎 Capture.PNG

sacred marsh Sep 26, 2020, 9:36 AM

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and another option for artwork I chose in the past was to have my game generate the assets at runtime itself... you could learn to write a generator... 😉

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 9:37 AM

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hehe should be an added rule, all art must be generated by python

sacred marsh Sep 26, 2020, 9:38 AM

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please no, I'm just kidding.. I love the art our artists have created during this week too much

solid star Sep 26, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Agreed. Then I might actually have a chance 😉

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 9:39 AM

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I kinda dislike jams allowing you to use downloaded premade assets, it's annoying to have to mention you made everything from scratch yourself. If you're halfway decent at art/sound people will think sooner you've downloaded everything. (or at least score about the same in production/presentation)

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but it's the world we live in

sacred marsh Sep 26, 2020, 9:42 AM

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@solid star in december there's procjam, "create something that creates something" if you're interested in that sort of thing though

solid star Sep 26, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Thanks. I'll check it out

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For a week project I think premade assets is ok. As long as you follow the rules. pyweek have restrictions around that

hollow lodge Sep 26, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Hello everyone please i need help. I am not exactly sure if i can use this song, because it is not on the pyweek site and free license does include only YouTube videos etc. https://www.bensound.com/royalty-free-music/track/ofelias-dream

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can anybody help me with this? Thanks

solid star Sep 26, 2020, 9:47 AM

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https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#existing-artwork-music-and-sound-effects-may-be-used

hollow lodge Sep 26, 2020, 9:48 AM

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i know about this, but i am not sure about license on this page

solid star Sep 26, 2020, 9:51 AM

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hmm. It's certainly not public domain or creative commons

hollow lodge Sep 26, 2020, 9:52 AM

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so i cant use it. ok thank you.

woeful tree Sep 26, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I would have liked to make the restrictions on art and sound looser, but I couldn't think of a definition of "free" that holds up to the level playing field goal. If something isn't under a proper free license then you're free to add any kind of conditional constraint. "Here's an asset, it costs nothing, but you're only allowed to use it if you're a British man over the age of 40"

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The Bensound Free license looks pretty free: https://www.bensound.com/licensing but I can't see the exact terms

Bensound | Music Licensing

Bensound Licensing

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The written terms are very permissive

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Then they try to roll it back in a table

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They would struggle to enforce their terms in court I imagine

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 10:44 AM

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@woeful tree is using minecraft fonts allowed then?

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it is full free

novel storm Sep 26, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Python has finally gained the upper hand!

📎 unknown.png

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(The game logic is in Python, but in the first 5 days we focused on presentation...)

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 11:13 AM

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http://iconbug.com/detail/icon/3170/cute-mountain-goat/

Cute Mountain Goat Icon, PNG ClipArt Image | IconBug.com

This one has really large horns. Download the Cute Mountain Goat Icon and thousands others from IconBug.com

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is this ok to use?

pearl oxide Sep 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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@woeful tree

ripe sequoia Sep 26, 2020, 3:01 PM

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JavaScript please die #seriously

shy finch Sep 26, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Hey guys, im trying to convert my game to exe but whenever I open it, it opens up the screen and after a second or so dies. what could be the problem?

modest tapir Sep 26, 2020, 3:42 PM

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what does the error say ?

gusty lodge Sep 26, 2020, 3:46 PM

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open it from cmd or powershell

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and check the error

shy finch Sep 26, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I think the error is with loading images

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for some reason it cant load em

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Hey guys, im trying to convert my game to exe but whenever I open it, it opens up the screen and after a second or so dies. what could be the problem?
I hope you publish a .zip and not just an .exe ....

shy finch Sep 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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i guess..?

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but my final file needs to be an exe file right?

novel storm Sep 26, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Definitely not. "Your entry must include all code and data required for running, and instructions about how to run the entry." https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#your-final-submission

gusty lodge Sep 26, 2020, 5:04 PM

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umm did you copy your image into your exe directory?

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having an executable is better imo because it's easier for ppl to play your game

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but a src zip is required of course

novel storm Sep 26, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Yeah, the exe is very nice to have. But e.g. I won't be able to run it. (I'm on a Mac.)

gusty lodge Sep 26, 2020, 5:06 PM

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); i don't know how to compile python into mac executable

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how do you do that

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 5:06 PM

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having an executable is better imo because it's easier for ppl to play your game
I am on Linux. I am not installing Wine just to play your games, no offense lol

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But there is no reason to compile it for Mac or Linux 🙂

sullen bear Sep 26, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Best idea is just providing source and then everything else is a bonus

gusty lodge Sep 26, 2020, 5:10 PM

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true

vague vale Sep 26, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Done same

olive gust Sep 26, 2020, 5:39 PM

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What should I put in the "Github repo" field? It just gives me "Enter a valid value." when I put a link there or format it like the example

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 6:04 PM

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like the example

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karx1/spider-island

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not

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https://github.com/karx1/spider-island

GitHub

karx1/spider-island

Spider Island: My entry for Pyweek 30. Contribute to karx1/spider-island development by creating an account on GitHub.

olive gust Sep 26, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I entered pokepetter/pyweek_28_castaway and it doesn't work
https://github.com/pokepetter/pyweek_28_castaway

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 6:09 PM

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that's weird

keen geode Sep 26, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Hey just woke up, what did I miss lol

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uh oh 6 hours left

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I'm sad to say this island map is too ~~awesome~~ big and not our final game world 😦

📎 goatland.png

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Screenshot from tiled with massive zoom-out, if you're wondering why it looks so weird.

keen yoke Sep 26, 2020, 7:07 PM

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lol

keen geode Sep 26, 2020, 7:29 PM

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So, do we have to bundle the game into an executable file?

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 7:36 PM

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No

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Zip is file necessary... .exe is not portable to Mac, or Linux.

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You can bundle an exe for Windows users if you want, but it is not necessary.

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https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/packaging.html

gusty lodge Sep 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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but you gotta put a README in your src zip that have running instructions

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and according to the rules you need a run_game.py

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and the zip should be zip of a folder, to prevent tar bombs

keen geode Sep 26, 2020, 8:21 PM

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How about virtual envs?

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whats the preferred venv here

sacred marsh Sep 26, 2020, 8:40 PM

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@keen geode just make sure to write down instructions on how to get it to run. something like: ```
pip install -r requirements.txt
python run_game.py

virtual env preference shouldn't technically matter. even though there are some strange bugs out there that are particular env related, it should be enough to give clear instructions and maybe adding a "Developed and tested on/with" section in your description, so anyone not using the same venv type and running into problems can try if using the same setup as described there helps

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 8:55 PM

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do i upload the zip file to my Pyweek entry page or do i just put it in the git repo?

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i'm pretty sure you upload it and mark it as final but this is my first pyweek so i could be wrong

lusty wasp Sep 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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We're running out of todo items, looks like we might actually make it!

sullen bear Sep 26, 2020, 8:58 PM

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nice nice nice

sacred marsh Sep 26, 2020, 9:16 PM

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@onyx basin the last upload you did on the pyweek site and marked as final (you can mark multiple uploads as final) will count as your entry. keep in mind, that you don't have to upload your final version at UTC 00:00 today but tomorrow. So take your time to polish the game until pyweek officially ends tonight/today/depending on timezone (in a few hours)... and worry about your entry page, final upload, etc. tomorrow. the additional day at the end isn't for coding but to upload your final entry and finish up with your presentation on your entries' page

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 9:22 PM

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How about virtual envs?
@keen geode be sure to exclude those from your zip archive. venv (python -m venv) is a good choice IMO, as it is included in standard python.... at least on Linux.

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unlike e.g. pipenv or poetry that require third-party package installation.

keen geode Sep 26, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I see now, thanks for the info. I'll put both pipenv and requirements.txt for installation

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 9:56 PM

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good morning pyweek'ers!
this fine Sunday morning my darned power is being turned off for half the day, starting in a few minutes :P
I'm on my laptop, tethering, so I'll be able to lurk tho 🙂

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FWIW asking judging co-challengers to make a venv and then install requirements to run your game is perfectly acceptabkle

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 9:58 PM

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requirements.txt with venv instructions are great.... At least for Linux users 😅

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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people typically only upload exe or app if they want to show it off to their family and friends

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@graceful dust why for Linux users? those instructions work for everyone

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Windows users who are not as experienced with python may struggle with it.

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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not so, it's just as easy on Windows to do that thing

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 9:59 PM

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(Generally speaking)

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 10:01 PM

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1 hour and 59 minutes to go \o/

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looks like about 19 entries have submission uploads so far, niiice

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aaand there goes my power, 8:02am 😛

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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We have just under 26 hours to upload though, right?

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 10:02 PM

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(hopefully it'll come back on before 1pm)

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@graceful dust yes, you have a window of 24 hours to upload in, but it's really not a good idea to stretch into that too far as your entry might be overlooked by early judges

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it was leeway introduced very early into pyweek because uploading to the challenge website could be difficult for some people - these days the upload goes to a much more capable system \o/

graceful dust Sep 26, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Still pretty useful when your team is spread all over the globe and may not be around at 0:00 UTC 😄

modest tapir Sep 26, 2020, 10:15 PM

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for me it's just 2 am and i'm polishing some last thiings

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how do we upload the final project ? we link the github repo in a diary ?

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 10:17 PM

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@modest tapir use the "upload file" option in your pyweek entry page

onyx basin Sep 26, 2020, 10:17 PM

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and also mark it as final

modest tapir Sep 26, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ok ty

valid prairie Sep 26, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Just submitted my final! https://pyweek.org/e/gaming32/

tiny mesa Sep 26, 2020, 11:03 PM

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just under an hour to go...

modest tapir Sep 26, 2020, 11:09 PM

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yep

daring sleet Sep 26, 2020, 11:25 PM

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my file is uploading soooooooooo slow...

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and 30 mins to go

modest tapir Sep 26, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Just uploaded my final too ! https://pyweek.org/e/scotchgames/

valid prairie Sep 26, 2020, 11:59 PM

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<1 minute to go!!

tawdry grove Sep 26, 2020, 11:59 PM

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are you guys packaging any libraries with the submission or just letting people do pip install -r?

keen geode Sep 26, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Almost done!

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:01 AM

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TIMES UP 😄

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Well done, everyone!

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Here's what you have to do now:

Ensure you have a README file. If you used Python 2, make that clear; otherwise people will assume Python 3. Also detail other libraries you used (and their versions).
Zip up your entry. Please include source code. Avoid creating a tarbomb by ensuring all your files are in a subdirectory in the ZIP file.
Upload your entry using the entry page. Be sure to mark it as final or it will not count.
Make sure your game title is correct.
Add a description, including anything you want to the judges to know.
Upload a representative screenshot. The last screenshot you upload will be shown on your entry page.

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yay @woeful tree

frigid moth Sep 27, 2020, 12:02 AM

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L A S T M I N U T E M E R G E C O N F L I C T S

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Good work everyone!

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You can resolve merge conflicts on upload day, that seems fine, given that pushing to a repo is a kind of uploading 🙂

frigid moth Sep 27, 2020, 12:02 AM

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we have time to submit but it does cause great fear in my heart

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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There's no requirement to push anything to a repo, anyway.

frigid moth Sep 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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:)

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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The only requirement is that you upload it to the PyWeek site within 24 hours of the challenge end.

daring sleet Sep 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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I can't upload my file

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what do I do?

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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try again in a bit

daring sleet Sep 27, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I have updated it on github though

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okay

pulsar seal Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Yay, I can eat dinner now. Brython was a blast to use for this. I'm still not sure if I'm the first one to do a browser game in a pyweek, but I managed to finish something that vaguely looks like a game 🙂

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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don't stress, there's a generous upload grace period built into the challenge 🙂

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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@daring sleet I think that happens when your upload takes too long and times out

daring sleet Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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yes, it is taking too long

sullen bear Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Brython huh! That's very interesting.

daring sleet Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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but I made my file half the size

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15, 177 kb

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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that's entirely reasonable

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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If all else fails, DM me a link to the tarball and I'll get it uploaded

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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@pulsar seal nope, not the first one.

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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half of our upload size is the 25MB libBLAS 😦

daring sleet Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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okay thanks @woeful tree

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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(we tried removing it but something in the lib spaghetti needs it)

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Yeah, we decided to ditch the numpy dependency because of that

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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we couldn't figure how to remove it 😦

daring sleet Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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someone said something about 24 hours left to submit?

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:05 AM

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indeed @daring sleet

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:06 AM

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You're uploading a copy of numpy?

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:06 AM

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don't push it though - people will start looking to review games immediately, and if you upload really late you might not get reviews

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@woeful tree in the built exes

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Wait, people can review games on upload day?

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Ohhh

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I thought they only open up on Monday

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:07 AM

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@lusty wasp I would be reviewing right now except my power is out so I'm tethered to muy phone

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Does the review dashboard even work on upload day?

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Nope, I don't see the link

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I think that is correct

lusty wasp Sep 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Anyway, early reviewers can check ours out from GitHub, I guess

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I don't remember if you can rate via the entry pages

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But I suspect it's all on the same schedule

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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oh. hmm. maybe the schedule code got tweaked. I can't see review links fro entry pages either.

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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You can probably pip install pyweek and download the current entries already though

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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mea culpa if I'm out of date

woeful tree Sep 27, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I don't think that's a change I made

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:10 AM

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heh maybe I changed the schedule code ages ago and completely forgot 😅

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the schedule-generated table definitely says that judging is underway tho 🙂

keen geode Sep 27, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Just got done! https://pyweek.org/e/throwaways/
Ran out of time didn't get to finish it to a working state with proper game loop 😢

pulsar seal Sep 27, 2020, 12:11 AM

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one nice thing about doing a browser game... I uploaded source distribution, but also just threw up a gitlab pages static site for anyone that doesn't want to run it locally

tiny mesa Sep 27, 2020, 12:11 AM

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congrats anyway @keen geode !