the docs look so clean
#pyweek-game-jam
lilac marsh
peak hearth
Does a project have to be made only using Python?
For example, can I make a web frontend for the game?
graceful dust
For example, can I make a web frontend for the game?
@peak hearth https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#target-platform
wind spoke
hiii
twin gyro
Ayyy
scarlet rock
i would love to participate but like patryk said i need a job/internship so i should probably focus on other projects that would be relevant to that kind of thing but otherwise this looks like fun
wind spoke
hi
wispy badge
i may mess arround with pygame zero!
neat night
i have so much homework this week or else i would definitely participate 😦
timber pollen
the link kinda dont work
covert jetty
Does pyweek really need 38 days before theme voting?
round cedar
hi
hot terrace
pyweek open
little mirage
anybody wanna team?
tropic bough
@pearl oxide @graceful dust Let me know if you guys need a +1. I feel I should get involved with more of these events to learn what other programmers do in Python and I'd love to see how this team operates.
dire junco
@little mirage yes
onyx basin
i dont know what to make lmao
wispy badge
i can't edit my message 😦
green ingot
I might wanna team with some people, but just for fun not competitive, looking forward to have a serious approach when making the game, but not sure if I will be able to fully dedicate myself, anyways if a team wants to team up with me I am open to pimgs and dms
graceful dust
i have so much homework this week or else i would definitely participate 😦
@neat night this week? Or you already have homework for September 20-27?
glad vine
can you access th Next tab on the website?
wispy badge
?
sage mica
is there a non competitive organized part too
green ingot
@sage mica I dont think anyone is going to whop you with a belt if you end up making not the greatest game 😅
dire junco
what games library are mostly used in this? i know only about pygame
hot terrace
im looking for a team to try to make a fun game, i know basic python and some more on that. No PyGame experience but im sure i can contribute in some way :D
dm me
dire junco
everyone here is like 'dm me'
sage mica
ye
green ingot
@graceful dust What are you going to be using for your games?
hot terrace
yes because its better not to clutter the chat
graceful dust
what games library are mostly used in this? i know only about pygame
@dire junco https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/libraries.html
sage mica
pyxel looks cool
graceful dust
@graceful dust What are you going to be using for your games?
Not sure I am participating yet. Don't care about making games as much as about Django.
rough hare
No, no, no @graceful dust Flask is where its at
graceful dust
No, no, no @graceful dust Flask is where its at
@rough hare no hatred for Flask... but nowhere near as many job opportunities, and it has its limitations.
Probably better off using something like FastAPI if you want something lighter than Django.
sullen bear
discord use flask 
vapid owl
Right now?
little mirage
ok @dire junco
rough hare
@graceful dust I am currently working on a project and havent run into any limitations of flask, but yes there are some limitations so i might learn django eventually
Or Node.js
onyx basin
in terms of scratch how much is allowed?
dire junco
what?
onyx basin
like can we use external libs like pygame?
dire junco
yeah pygame is allowed
vapid owl
Will there be "PyWeek participant" roles as well?
onyx basin
ok thamks for the reply 👌
idle star
Hi, if you are interested in a game library for PyWeek, check out Arcade at https://arcade.academy
graceful dust
discord use flask :mmLul:
discord also sucks😆
idle star
Lots of sample games and tutorials there.
graceful dust
@graceful dust I am currently working on a project and havent run into any limitations of flask, but yes there are some limitations so i might learn django eventually
@rough hare I've used both. By far prefer Django and its batteries included approach for any non-basic project.
like can we use external libs like pygame?
@onyx basin see the Rules page
on the pyweek website
green ingot
A web based game could be fun, not sure if you are alot more experienced than me and I barely know anything compared to that but, if you decide to particapate and you need another member on the team I might be able to help, :)
raven dust
How much Python should you know to be able to comfortably do Pyweek?
onyx snow
maybe im stupid, new to this #pyweek-game-jam , but its not a week right?
onyx snow
but 13-27 isnt a week
raven dust
I’ve taken a course in python but I’ve never done a game and I’m low key scared that people will get mad at me for not knowing enough
onyx snow
is it solo or can i find a team?
raven dust
is it solo or can i find a team?
@onyx snow both
onyx snow
well guess i will read about that
onyx basin
Making a webgame is tempting coming out of the Summer Code Jam.
vale cliff
I dont know anythin about python xd
broken void
Hey, looking for a team. Never participated into any jam or made any game in python but I have some years behind me working on individual projects, hmu
onyx basin
A game jamnis a good way to learn. You can follow a pygake tutorial or something.
onyx snow
thats cool
grim topaz
@broken void dms?
onyx basin
DotA Masters
grim topaz
bruh
terse portal
Hi all
grim topaz
hey
broken void
Yeah
frigid moth
i have worked on multiple game projects before, both on a team and by myself, and i can do sound design, music composition/production, pixel art, and i can code but im sorta ass at python bc i just got started so it might be better if i do more of the aformentioned art stuff. thanks for coming to my TED talk which is also my resume
south jetty
i never got the hang of python really, but, damn, pyweek sounds like fun... Good luck to you all!
terse portal
I don't know if I am good enough to compete.. I am just a beginner in python. If anyone is relevant and willing to make a team.. Let's give it a try, at least we'll learn and gain some experience from it.
broken void
@grim topaz yeah dms
dire junco
hey albatatis
terse portal
Hey
frigid moth
i donut know if i will do this if i do not get to be on a team hm
week long is cool but also it means ill be spending way more time on it
weekend game jams u just commit one weekend and then u are done
grim topaz
aight
graceful dust
A web based game could be fun, not sure if you are alot more experienced than me and I barely know anything compared to that but, if you decide to particapate and you need another member on the team I might be able to help, :)
@green ingot web game could definitely be fun...
We'll see whether I have time.
and the will
green ingot
Im afraid though you might be a lot more expereinced than me but I am ok to lwanr and try to catch up
glad vine
is the number of team members limited?
hot terrace
good question
rustic shuttle
can i still sign up for pyweek 😦
grim topaz
yeah prolly
rustic shuttle
ok ty ❤️
onyx basin
Man i'd love to participate but it's literally during the week of my sat
rustic shuttle
rip
onyx basin
Maybe next time lol
scarlet rock
tldr as many team members as you want, any framework i think but idk theres a few here https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/libraries.html
onyx basin
How much knowledge do you need to have about Python to take part?
Or about the framework
You want to use
graceful dust
How much knowledge do you need to have about Python to take part?
Or about the framework
@onyx basin the more the better, of course. But python is fairly simple, you can learn enough before pyweek actually starts I am sure. If you already knowpython, then focus on the libraries.
vapid owl
Will there be "PyWeek participant" roles, like in the Code Jam?
marsh fulcrum
anyone mind joining a team with me
So far im by myself
ive been coding for 5 months so
keep that in mind
raven dust
Looking for teams, I’ve taken a python course and know how to code at a decent rate. Looking for a team of non noobs to coding lol. Been coding for 7 ish months thx!
Dm me if you want me on ur team 
young anvil
I don’t understand how to register
raven dust
It’s on the website
young anvil
I can’t find it
manic sedge
@young anvil on https://pyweek.org there's a register button in the menu
once you click that and sign up, there's a button called something like "register entry" in the menu
raven dust
manic sedge
click on that and you can join
young anvil
Ok thank you
manic sedge
Hello
bleak flax
upbeat aspen
is pyweek a python competition?
woeful tree
Of course!
low tulip
soo u just make a game in pygame if I understand
upbeat aspen
i think so
vagrant mason
not just pygame, and Python game framework
low tulip
and
how can i join the week
i registered on the website but do i have to do smt more?
vagrant mason
you could look for a team if you'd like
i'd recommend looking through this if you haven't already https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
drowsy dagger
that's right.
low tulip
thanks
drowsy dagger
we'll announce the theme when it's ready - your entry has to adhere to the theme
and then the community will vote on their favorite submission
woeful tree
but i just submit entry when time comes?
@low tulip You do need to register with the site before the competition ends
Register an entry, I mean
woeful tree
You can't enter after the competition is over, is all
If you're joining a team then you can do that at any point if the team is willing to have you
bronze magnet
(o.o)/ hey guys
woeful tree
Welcome!
bronze magnet
i'mm new to coding in general, i've been doing python for like a month or two, from people who've partaked in pyweek before: do the themes usually allow for basic stuff or is it usually more advanced stuff
i mean like: are the themes "broad" enough that even a beginner can have some fun with it?
i'm expecting the most advanced people to win but this still sounds fun so yeah
broken gate
@bronze magnet I start learning python in Septemeber, so I have no idea what is going on
bronze magnet
wdym in september
woeful tree
You can look at past theme votes
bronze magnet
did you give yourself a date for when you're gonna start lmao
broken gate
@bronze magnet Im studying in university
bronze magnet
@woeful tree where would that be? is there like a channel for it or do i juts google it?
oh university
woeful tree
bronze magnet
don't unis usually use c++ or java
woeful tree
On the rankings page for each previous competition
bronze magnet
i'm a long way till i get to uni so that's not a concern for me, i just googled and used free courses and videos to learn lmao
broken gate
@bronze magnet Yh I have to study all of that lol It focus on all aspects of Software Engineering
bronze magnet
oh those themes look quite harsh
woeful tree
The themes are usually abstract and can be interpreted however you want
broken gate
I cried when my tutor recommended computer science
stuck ginkgo
pyweek!
bronze magnet
i hope i can get an idea for so mething basic to just mess around with
stuck ginkgo
how do i compete?
sullen bear
Register at https://pyweek.org!
woeful tree
Oh, you never get the theme you expect, or one that quite suits what you have in your head before
stuck ginkgo
cool, thanks!
broken gate
@sullen bear what is it for?
bronze magnet
yoo do some people at my level want to team up? i'm still in high school though so during those times i'll be going to school
woeful tree
You usually need to think again during the theme voting week
sullen bear
PyWeek is a week long game jam where you need to build a game using Python
broken gate
@bronze magnet I'll be happy to
bronze magnet
for reference, i'm doing stuff with the socket module
@broken gate but you haven't even started learning python
that's a tad bit too low
also i like all these python events you guys do they sound cool 🙂
broken gate
@bronze magnet I have meddled with it a bit and I have to put full time to it starting from tmrw
stuck ginkgo
uhh... i don't see a "join" button on the pyweek website, but i might just be being stupid
bronze magnet
we get friends on discord, before the jam starts (like couple days ago), we talk about where we at and see if we'd be able to team up
broken gate
@stuck ginkgo Bottom page, join on discord
bronze magnet
what about that 🙂
woeful tree
There's a "Register Entry" link on the menu
bronze magnet
gah i don't wnna register now because what if i forget or decide to make nothing, i can't juts register and then present nothing
broken gate
@bronze magnet I have no friends on here 🤣
bronze magnet
i'll register as late as possible i reckon
@broken gate i mean i add you as a friend
woeful tree
Or the direct link to register is https://pyweek.org/30/entry_add/
stuck ginkgo
when does registration end
broken gate
@bronze magnet your plan sounds perfect to me
bronze magnet
@woeful tree can i join and then present nothing? like if i don't come with anything or can't make it or decide to back out
woeful tree
You must have registered by the end of the competition
@bronze magnet Sure, but your entry gets marked as "DNF"
bronze magnet
and that means something bad?
or is it just like "oh he gave usn othing" but no backlash
woeful tree
I should probably make it just delete it if you don't post anything at all
DNF = Did Not Finish
bronze magnet
oh ok so nothing terrible
broken gate
@woeful tree is there a seeprate tag for noobs like me?
bronze magnet
well then i reckon i might join
@broken gate nah mate i dont think there is, the goal is to focus on smaller ieas
basic stuff that we can tackle given the team
woeful tree
DNF is not bad or anything, it just feels a bit like a failure sometimes
bronze magnet
sadly we need creativity which i don't have
woeful tree
Like you started and did not succeed
woeful tree
I think maybe I should just change the name from DNF to something else
broken gate
@bronze magnet I'm Asian so that falls under the category 🤣
bronze magnet
wait
how come you're asian but you didn't learn python at 5
jk jk that was a joke
i'm not racist 😔
broken gate
I was running from a broom srick
bronze magnet
lmao relatable
broken gate
it's cool, I love those type of jokes
bronze magnet
i know but the line can get blurry so staff may just
terminate me
which to be fair, if you have to mod a whole ass server you can't nit pick everything and look at it under a microscope
onyx basin
@sullen bear Hello, Owner.
Yeah, I registered.
sullen bear
Hello, user.
bronze magnet
hello user
onyx basin
I already registered.
What do I have to do?
broken gate
@bronze magnet lol is this a general chat for beginners as other channels are trying my brain
bronze magnet
nahh this is a chat for pyweek
broken gate
frying*
bronze magnet
the jam
cold furnace
hmm this would be for more advanced programmers, right? 🤔
bronze magnet
yeahh i stick to #networks and even then i just ask, or #python-discussion to have a chat
sullen bear
Once you've registered that's all for now I believe (@woeful tree may correct me, he knows much more than me!). You need to stay tuned for the theme vote opening on 13th September and the theme will be released on September 20th at 00:00 UTC!
bronze magnet
@cold furnace probably yes but eh i'll try my hand at it
but yeah given the past themes it's defenitely more advanced-oriented
do you reckon i should dip my feet into pygame or just do it vanilla
sullen bear
PyWeek is for programmers of all levels, Paul Craven was in here earlier mentioning https://arcade.academy/ which is a game library suitable for people of all experience levels.
broken gate
@bronze magnet I see, will have a look. I have knowledge in algorithms, problem solving, slight networking as it was in my modules. For my next module it's going to be more advanced algorithms, problem solving and python
sullen bear
If you don't feel you want to get involved with a team at this stage there is no reason why you can't register as an individual and give it a go!
cold furnace
ahh i see, it sounds fun but i doubt I'm good enough to try it
sullen bear
I think you are megaball 😃
broken gate
@sullen bear I'll do my best
bronze magnet
damn wiat
@broken gate you know more than me you just don't know it in python specifically
smh should have specified that
then you're a great addition lmao
broken gate
@bronze magnet lol pretty much, I have good knowledge in scratch and oubuild
same thing tbh
broken gate
I know, but it's useful as helps with problem solving
bronze magnet
i was meant to learn it at the end of my school year as i just ended freshman
but we never did
and i'm happy 'bout that cause man scratch
we actually did nothing about tech in any way (coding or not) so uhh yeah pogchamp
broken gate
@bronze magnet Scratch is amazing, I built some advanced games, from one person shooter to flying planes
onyx basin
hallo
bronze magnet
damn uni really do be at the levels of "hey look i just made a game engine in JS"
lmao
onyx basin
how do you guys create levels?
bronze magnet
hey that's a good question
woeful tree
Tiled is good
onyx basin
i dont know what to make
bronze magnet
@onyx basin we don't even have the themes yet
onyx basin
im just making a game
broken gate
You can't but you can change backround and change sprite skins
woeful tree
Also I often use Inkscape and then parse the SVG in my game code
broken gate
wait what lol
bronze magnet
oh ok my brain is getting fried
onyx basin
thanks
broken gate
Oh sweet, I just recently started exploring Linux. Zorin OS Lite, Pop!_OS and Linux Mint so far
woeful tree
In our PyWeek 26 entry Dynamite Valley the level data was entered in plain text using our own DSL: https://github.com/larryhastings/pyweek26/blob/master/src/levels/level1.txt
atomic scarab
umm so im new to python is a game library just a module?
broken gate
I have no idea how to use GitHub, will have to learn though as needed
hot terrace
np
woeful tree
@atomic scarab there's a list here: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/libraries.html
atomic scarab
thank you @woeful tree
grave valve
If anyone if looking for teammates for PyWeek, DM me. I will be setting up a group DM for the team. Sprite skills would be appreciated but we can come up with spriteless concepts too 🙂
I wonder what the theme will be this time
tawdry night
I wonder too, looking at prior themes, some seem difficult
Like the theme 6, not many possibilities seem... unique
Mind you I bet a lot of them are
grave valve
If that was the theme this year (which it won’t be) i would just do a game possibly relating to 6 characters
Perhaps with different abilities
It’s simple enough to the point that it completes the theme without making things overly complicated
woeful tree
6 different worlds, all radiating from a central hub world
grave valve
That makes 7 worlds, so perhaps 5 with a hub world
woeful tree
6 seconds of furious action, replay them 6 times
grave valve
Extending on from that 6 second idea
How about you have a game where you have only 6 seconds to do stuff in a level
To setup for a next life
Which also only has 6 seconds
tawdry night
You can live the same 6 minutes over and over again from the same spawn point with your same altered world, slowly progressing.
grave valve
Until one of your lives reaches the end of the level
grave valve
There are many ways to interpret 6.
The main character could literally be a big 6 and it would count
woeful tree
There are many ways to interpret anything
The game could be anything but the art style could have only 6 colours
grave valve
You could have a character that carries 6 batteries and has to slot them in battery slots that turn things on or off. If two batteries power the same thing it overloads and turns off again. Some things like doors would be plugged into multiple slots
woeful tree
The time looping idea has actually been done by a winning PyWeek entry
grave valve
The wonders of interpretation
tawdry night
Time looping idea is cool
covert patrol
There's an old flash game with that mechanic
woeful tree
Almost certainly a Python 2 game, if you want to try it
Python 2 is no longer allowed, of course
gritty basin
Hello, I'm interested in finding a team, specifically one interested in trying to apply ML for auto generation of content.
I'm looking for people more interested in learning these techniques as the first and foremost goal, with winning the competition as a secondary or even tertiary goal.
grave valve
I was also looking for a team. Mostly because I find jams more interesting as a team instead of a solo
gritty basin
@grave valve Do you have experience in game development?
grave valve
Quite a lot, yeah
I have a UAL Level 3 Extended Diploma in Creative Media and Production Technology. (Game Design and Animation)
Currently working for my BSc in Computer Science (Game Development)
Been programming for a hell of a long time. 10+ years at this point, since I was a kid.
@gritty basin what ‘bout you?
gritty basin
Nooooope lol, but I do ML for my projects in Grad School and am looking to jump over into more CS heavy work, specifically in entertainment. I saw this and thought it could be a good learning opportunity.
I have been programming for quite some time, maybe 5 or so years, but all in the context of data science / simulations / robotics / AI
I'd be interested in teaming up if you'd like, I have some ideas that are fairly straightforward and could be really cool
Idk if it would win the competition itself, but long term I think could turn into some awesome games
graceful dust
bragging rights, and a special role
woeful tree
The real prize is the friends we make along the way
sharp ether
can we use pygame?
sharp ether
no
grave valve
Then no
(Although actually unity does have Python plugins... they’re not very good anyways)
And engine that can be imported to Python using import, I would assume
I’m not sure if tools that allow you to “drag and drop” make games are allowed.
deep aurora
10/10
bright nebula
How much experience is needed to participate?
I have made a few basic games but with text graphics only, and have 2 days experience with pygame
graceful dust
keep at it, and you should be pretty good by the time it starts. There is no min exp req.
Maybe you join a team and all bring different things, too.
gritty basin
Is there a role I can set for myself that is looking for team?
fair kayak
I joined a team but the discord link I got emailed is invalid, I'm not sure who to contact
misty stone
for the pyweek is where the program actually running to test the game for yourself
young anvil
so for pyweek can we use resources like github, or is it from scratch all the way till the end
scarlet rock
yea you gotta make your own version control system from scratch
urban violet
can we use open source game engines like pygame and raylib?
tawdry night
I know pygame is allowed, and raylib probably
obsidian compass
My brother and I are thinking about doing this. He's done game jams before, and I've sponsored a couple and hung out at them, but never done the challenge. Sounds like fun.
stoic loom
Do people ever get a chance at being team mates with very minimal python or development experience?
tawdry night
I have a few people in my team with little experience, but I think my 5 person team is enough
What I'm trying to say is though, you always have a shot
Everyone can help somehow
stoic loom
Any pointers Maple? Maybe I can do a dry run by myself on some stuff to make my self valuable next round
storm tapir
I just signed up, I'm nervous as I'm definitely a noob but imma try my best
stoic loom
Good luck lluka 👍
sullen bear
You'll smash it!
tawdry night
I personally think the most important thing to know is that you should settle for imperfection. Googling / searching something isn't something to be ashamed of.
Another thing that is important is having a project that you've made before so you know that you can do it. It doesn't need to be something major (it can just be a simple bullet hell, or a little one screen puzzle), just so long as it's something you made.
storm tapir
tyty!
tawdry night
I love seeing new people create stuff, even if I am relatively new myself :P
storm tapir
if everything goes terribly, at least I know I could just make a text based story game or something like that XD
but I'll push my skillz
tawdry night
Exactly. Pyweek is the best place to test your limits
stoic loom
maybe ill try and find a dev who streams and try to get onboard with a mini game
tawdry night
Just remember to take breaks every once in a while
storm tapir
I just hope work doesnt get in the way of it
stoic loom
use all the pto
storm tapir
lmaoo cant :<
stoic loom
zoom?
storm tapir
i work in the health field
tawdry night
Nah, we start the day in class, get assigned crap, then do it all at home.
stoic loom
No dice there
storm tapir
unfortunately XD
tawdry night
That way we eat lunch at home (bc as if schools could have a socially distanced lunch), and limit our time interacting with others
storm tapir
thats interesting @_@
tawdry night
I mean, it is definitely the best option for now
stoic loom
Good luck to both of you! And of course everyone
tawdry night
Mhm! Good luck to you too if you decide to participate, or good luck for next time
storm tapir
tyty!
and gl yall!
I'm gonna ask my brother if he'd be interested, but the Pyweek challenge is at the exact same time as his final exams :(
tawdry night
Yikes, make sure he focuses on the finals above all else.
storm tapir
lol definitely XD plus he is basically a programming pro already
nice chatting yall, I gotta head off :D I'm gonna try be more active in this server now though, so I can increase my python skills!
tawdry night
Ye, usually I'm on lurking in #discord-bots anyways
clear prairie
is this pyweek event a yearly event?
storm tapir
i think twice yearly
clear prairie
oh damm
finite mango
o/
tawdry night
o/
radiant lichen
Nive
modern jungle
biannual event 🥳
whole elbow
Where do i register my team?
Cant find it
Found it
what do i enter in Entry URL?
onyx basin
how frequently is pyweek organised?
graceful dust
what do i enter in Entry URL?
@whole elbow Isn't that for the final entry which you (hopefully) haven't uploaded yet?
graceful dust
Oh, then enter a name....
whole elbow
any name?
whole elbow
Ahahahah nice not the team's name
The Entry URL, what should i enter there?
graceful dust
or anything that complies with the rules under the box
Anything you want.... 
lists previous game entries, and they all have the pyweek/e/... format, so you can use those for inspiration.
It will be the final link to your game.
whole elbow
I dont get it 😂 any thing i want?
whole elbow
ohh kayy got it thankss
graceful dust
you can wait until pyweek starts and know what the theme will be
and decide on a title then
you can also smash 15 random alpha keys....
graceful dust
I would assume not...
But maybe if you bug the site owners/admin.
Entry URL doesn't matter, tbh....
as long as you don't enter something stupid and offensive.
whole elbow
Ahh alright thanks
open brook
It's not even about winning, but i think i can gain some experience (i consider myself as a really young developer) by working in team on something like this. Does anyone know where i could find some randoms making a team? Is there a channel for that?
graceful dust
Try #pyweek-game-jam
tiny kernel
Where do i enter by myself?
graceful dust
pyweek website. Just leave team members blank, I think.
It does say it in the docs somewhere, because I have read something to that effect.
timber trout
@spare marsh What do you have to do?
spare marsh
IDK, first time in pyweek stuff.
timber trout
@spare marsh same here wanna team up with me?
spare marsh
sure why not
timber trout
okie dokie
pale root
Can i also join? @timber trout
timber trout
@pale root let me ask @spare marsh
glacial trellis
is it ok if i join too
im not very experienced with pyweek but i think its really interesting @timber trout @spare marsh
glacial trellis
ah its cool
timber trout
ohh ok then👍
glacial trellis
if theres anyone whos interested in joining ping me 🙂
glacial trellis
do u wanna make a team
slate widget
Yep
terse venture
Hi
slate widget
hello
onyx basin
Me too
graceful dust
week-long game coding competition
onyx basin
I get that lol
graceful dust
See the pinned message
onyx basin
Ru participating
graceful dust
You have like.... 26 days to learn.
website has some resources, including links to libraries
onyx basin
Oh nice
graceful dust
also, find yourself a team and you can exchange information.
graceful dust
Maybe you can still find something to do.
Code game AI. lol
That's basically a bot.
If you find a team that can work on the graphics/sound/gameplay....
onyx basin
I am new to this server the no of channels make me not to open this
Why are there so many help channels
graceful dust
I think you can ask for help in one of the free channels, and they become occupied.
Then you can go to the occupied and help people.
onyx basin
Oh
merry hedge
when is the deadline to register?
the post says 27th sept lol
(or we can register at anytime?)
graceful dust
You can register after it starts, yeah
As long as you write code between the 20th and 27th.
I think the registration deadline is the 27th at midnight, but don't quote me on that.
merry hedge
ahh alright, thank you
onyx basin
Hey, Can I join anyones team? I don't have a lot of python programming experience but I'm still learning, I do have experience in other languages.
queen mauve
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onyx basin
E
open brook
Hey, i'm looking for a team to gain experience about python in general if anyone else wants...
I see we're a lot in that case 😅
gentle sentinel
I would like to join that team, I would like to better my skills
They are not great
coarse drift
Yes I would like to join a team too
tawdry night
So many people looking for teams :/
coarse drift
Are there any teams here?
tawdry night
You can see open teams on the pyweek website
lavish river
Hmm, first time in a game jam, veri confoosing
And I don't even have much experience with a library that can help
tawdry night
I mean, it isn't too confusing if you prepare
lavish river
Well the jam is after my exams so I can prepare, one thing for me to be happy about
sand cosmos
Hi, how many people can form a team? Is two enough? Also, the there's a theme for week 30 right? where can i find it?
sand cosmos
Ah thanks a lot!
rare lantern
I didn't understand the theme thing? can anyone explain it more? How I will know my theme when it will given?
tawdry night
@rare lantern everyone is given the same theme on September 20th. This theme must be included in your game somehow
rare lantern
Oh so it will be given in the pyweek websites or here??
tawdry night
For example, a previous theme was 6. A way you could incorporate this theme would be a world where you can live for 6 seconds before dying, but with each life you can slowly make changes to help you progress
Probably both
rare lantern
Oh I understand now. thanks bruh
tawdry night
No
young anvil
is there a beginner team?
rare lantern
bruh just create one. I created one and also finding member now and I found one already
graceful dust
Idk if there is an upper limit
@tawdry night not AFAIK
tawdry night
Kk cool, I thought so but didn't want to spread misinformation
graceful dust
Kk cool, I thought so but didn't want to spread misinformation
Everyone should just read the docs, all the info is thereso if we accidentally lie to them that's their own fault lol
young anvil
i dont know shit about coding, anyone got a team i can join
graceful dust
then leave the server this server is only for codeing
@onyx basin https://pythondiscord.com/pages/code-of-conduct/
steel ocean
Hello and good morning/afternoon I have a question are you allowed to use a game engine that uses a similar programing language to Python (Godot game engine)
graceful dust
Don't be an ass; this server is for people of all skill levels
steel ocean
for pyweek
graceful dust
Python only
steel ocean
wait but can you use pygame
tawdry night
Yes
young anvil
how bout github
steel ocean
thanks
tawdry night
I saw someone say github wasn't allowed earlier but I think they were joking
young anvil
ok, bc i think on there web it says u can but only published within 30 days from the start of the jam
coarse drift
can you use any python module? Or is it just pygame?
graceful dust
can you use any python module? Or is it just pygame?
@coarse drift any module, AFAIK (unless you wrote it in the 30 days preceding the competition)
young anvil
yessir
graceful dust
There's a bunch of recommended libraries on the site you can use.
young anvil
imma use github for most of my project lol
graceful dust
You can (and should) use GitLab or github if you have poor taste for source control.
young anvil
lol ok
coarse drift
well, to be honest i've poor knowledge about all the github stuff
compact parrot
naive yoke
@compact parrot here's our game from last pyweek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmFneqdItbg
scarlet rock
yea i just want to be clear i was joking about not using github, yes you can use github
tawdry night
Damn Flipcoder, I can't even imagine creating that ._.
graceful dust
here's our game from last pyweek
@naive yoke was that how you got the PyWeek champions role?
tawdry night
3-dimensional gameplay seems pretty difficult to make with pygame
graceful dust
Looks great
naive yoke
@graceful dust yes
keep in mind you don't have to do something ambitious for pyweek. Just make something fun with the time and skills you have and it will pay off
young anvil
can i see the code? i wanna have an idea/reference
young anvil
thx
stoic ivy
what is the usual time limit for this type of event?
vagrant mason
pyweek 😄
vagrant mason
for sure
i'd recommend looking through this if you haven't already: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
also this https://pyweek.org/30/
tawdry night
Someone should pin FAQ that way the lazy people who are too lazy to click a website can just check pins
FAQ:
Are we allowed to use pygame:
Yes
Are we allowed to use github:
Yes
How long do we have:
Pyweek
Perfect FAQ, I see no flaws
onyx basin
I need a team for pyweek
Jst getting started but I wanna learn
What people can whip up
@compact parrot I think there is a link to the previous games in pyweek announcement
woeful tree
@tawdry night Good idea, Il doing it
tawdry night
woeful tree
FAQ
How do I register?
Register an account at https://pyweek.org/, then find the Register Entry link under your username in the menu. Or go straight to https://pyweek.org/30/entry_add/.
Do we have to use Python?
Yes.
Are we allowed to use pygame?
Yes, of course. But there are many other engines, frameworks and libraries to choose from. Here's a list of some choices: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/libraries.html
You can even write a game without a framework, like in the terminal or in the browser.
Are we allowed to use GitHub?
To hold your projects code, yes. The PyWeek website has a special integration with GitHub. But you can use other source control tools.
How long do we have?
One week. Programming starts at 00:00 UTC on 2020-09-20 and ends exactly 168 hours later.
What is my theme and how do I have to use it?
The theme will be a few words or a phrase, like "Cardboard" or "Hop by hop". Five themes will be put to a vote the week before the competition. One theme will be picked. Your game has to take inspiration from that theme, somehow. Anyhow. Not necessarily literally. Perhaps you can do a play on words. Twelve-time champion Cosmologicon used to share a theme breakdown for each contest, which might be explanatory: https://pyweek.org/d/5797/#comment-12955
What's this all about?
Read this: https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
sullen bear
ahhh awesome
onyx basin
oooh yes
so no Pyweek?
🙁
?
https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/721452596438630521/747863460368482344 im talking about this joke
woeful tree
Oooh terminal game
https://github.com/lordmauve/adventurelib
random sinew
Pretty cool
I've seen a whole game engine rendering to ascii art, that was really cool too
woeful tree
TBA?
woeful tree
That's a game studio
naive yoke
"to be announced", I think he means projects that were already in making
if so then no
smoky reef
naive yoke
@smoky reef browser game with python? that would be cool
I'm pretty sure that's allowed
woeful tree
Yep, I entered http://dark-world.mauveweb.co.uk/ a few PyWeeks ago
That was JS thin client, Python backend
naive yoke
if most the code is on the client then you should probably use brython
its python gamejam after all
@woeful tree nice!
this is lagging quite a bit on my machine but looks great
reminds me of Unturned
woeful tree
Let me get in there
It works on mobile but you have to bring up a keyboard with cursor keys
frozen oriole
Ok
cold mortar
cool
onyx basin
I have a team with 3 others. We are looking for one more peson with art/level design skills.
lmk if you are interested
primal fox
is unity allowed?
also how do you collaborate using vscode?
neon shoal
is unity allowed
torpid pike
<@&267628507062992896> How to register?
vagrant mason
see the pins
vapid owl
It’s the first part of the pins
graceful dust
What is the entry URL?
@torpid pike it's where your project will be hosted on the pyweek website. You can enter basically anything there, it doesn't really matter.
pearl oxide
yes
timber gate
anyone need doc writer for their guild?
frail wharf
when is py week starting
woeful tree
@frail wharf You can see that at the top of https://pyweek.org
frail wharf
ok ok 24 days
bright hemlock
.
naive mirage
It's all in the pins :)
tender raptor
Hi, looking for group. I have worked with py arcade before. I usually do game dev stuff on unity c#, but it's refreshing to do game dev with python. I have also participated in two game jams, the first one as a SFX artist and composer in Ludum Dare, the other as a solo developer for a smaller scale game jam. I live in Malaysia, so time zone is GMT+8
limpid heart
What is this?
I just learned of it weeks late
we totally need a pyweek FAQ channel
covert seal
check pins
visual glen
I just learned of it weeks late
@limpid heart
Weeks late? We've just moved the channel up. You still have some time before the event kicks off.
graceful dust
More like 15 years late, amirite?
rotund bison
programming for about 2 years now. I have some experience making games using pygame but I have no knowledge at all when it comes to art/sound/level design.
If there's anyone whos into those stuff and is looking for a partner send a pm.
graceful dust
i mean those green thingy?
@timber gate you mean the roles like I have? Those were given out for the summer code jam. Not sure whether they will be giving roles out for pyweek, but I imagine that will happen closer to the actual event if they do...
timber gate
ah fair enough ty for the info
graceful dust
Code jam was different, as we had to sign up with the pydis team before a deadline, and pass a test. You can register to pyweek after the event started, so it's probably more difficult to manage, too.
visual glen
The relationship between this community and PyWeek is obviously different than the relationship between this community and the Code Jams. It's important to appreciate that PyWeek is its own event that has been organized twice a year for almost 15 years (the 30th edition is just around the corner). I doubt most of the participants of PyWeek are even a member of this community.
tender raptor
Where else can I look for groups?
timber gate
oh wow
visual glen
It's actually really cool to hear Daniel Pope/mauve talk about PyWeek here: https://www.pythonpodcast.com/pyweek-with-daniel-pope-episode-182/
graceful dust
I doubt most of the participants of PyWeek are even a member of this community.
And I doubt pyweek even collects our Discord info lol.
tender raptor
I imagine the server could do an opt in tag
tender raptor
Wdym
timber gate
u green role
tender raptor
I always had it
sullen bear
hmmm, I don't think we'll have pyweek competitors roles, but we do have the winners role
graceful dust
hmmm, I don't think we'll have pyweek competitors roles, but we do have the winners role
Sweet!too bad I'm a loser
pearl oxide
@rotund bison Hi! You can join our group! We will be using pygame 🙂
rotund bison
Pm
sullen parcel
Anyone looking for teammates? I can't promise to contribute much but I'm willing to learn new stuff!
rotund bison
@pearl oxide
junior compass
Whats the last date for registration
visual glen
Registration closes as the challenge ends or, in other words, you can still register during the challenge week itself as long as you register (and submit your submission) before the end of the challenge.
covert patrol
@onyx basin your question earlier was very clearly addressed. Please check the pins
woeful tree
Registration closes as the challenge ends or, in other words, you can still register during the challenge week itself as long as you register (and submit your submission) before the end of the challenge.
@visual glen That's not quite true; there's 24 hours grace time to upload your game after programming time ends
So
a) you must be registered before the end of final Saturday (UTC) in order to be able to upload
b) if you are registered, you have all of Sunday (UTC) to upload
In practice that means most people code right up until the stroke of midnight and then immediately upload their work
And out of sportsmanship we let you fix any showstopper bugs or packaging problems on Sunday
If you cheat by actually continuing to work on your game on Sunday, you could be disqualified of course :)
visual glen
Thanks for the correction. And a good policy. Maybe we should adopt something like that for our code jam
autumn prawn
how many people can be in a team?
teal plinth
how many people can be in a team?
@autumn prawn i have same doubt
vagrant mason
as many members as you'd like https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/rules.html#entry-is-individual-or-team-based
autumn prawn
thank you @vagrant mason
graceful dust
Petition to ban questions in this channel, and make a #pyweek-game-jam-questions-that-are-already-answered-on-the-website-but-you-will-ask-them-on-discord-anyways
sullen parcel
ey yo looking for some teammates of any coding level, dm/ping me or @undone lilysorry yall we're full
split ermine
how do you enter?
stuck ginkgo
🎶 pyweek pyweek 🎶
visual glen
@split ermine There's a FAQ in the pinned messages and more information on https://pyweek.org
split ermine
@visual glen ok, thanks!
are we allowed to make games in the console? or does it have to be a gui?
late jacinth
woeful tree
Some of us did a one hour game jam one time, a couple of days after PyWeek: https://pyweek.org/d/3946/
onyx basin
Are the diaries on a service hosted online or is it just like a text file that you edit
quartz gorge
@ember spire @ember spire @ember spire @ember spire
idle star
If you want some how to code for pyweek, see https://arcade.academy/examples/index.html
honest pumice
I am not getting any email
Even if I fill all the details
This is my first time participating in pygame plz guide me 😅
When I click on verification link I get this 😐
Invalid verification key
tiny mesa
@onyx basin diaries are part of the pyweek website, just a basic per-entry blog
onyx basin
Anyone want to form a team with me?
tender raptor
Hi, looking for group. I have worked with py arcade before. I usually do game dev stuff on unity c#, but it's refreshing to do game dev with python. I have also participated in two game jams, the first one as a SFX artist and composer in Ludum Dare, the other as a solo developer for a smaller scale game jam. I live in Malaysia, so time zone is GMT+8
woeful tree
@honest pumice Can you DM me the verification link you are being e-mailed?
graceful dust
@tender raptor can I see your previous entries/game stuff you have worked on? I may be interested.
Not that much gamedev experience, tbh... But I did write a fancy pong clone with C/SDL some years ago, so I know about sprites, blitting, controls, audio, collision detection, etc.
woeful tree
That's a pretty good call, I like the idea of sharing "portfolios" to help people join appropriate teams
Not that prior experience is necessary, of course
undone lily
Looking for some teammates of any coding level, dm/or ping me
woeful tree
Oh, PyWeek should have a "Portfolio page" for each user, which shows screenshots of your entries
tender raptor
@graceful dust, python only, or in general?
graceful dust
In general is fine
Python is ridiculously easy if you have experience with other languages.
graceful dust
Not that prior experience is necessary, of course
Of course not. Would be nice to team up with someone who is dedicated and has some experience though, to me. I just did the summer code jam, and it wasn't always easy with the team I was in. (Not to say I didn't make my own share of mistakes, being my first time as leader 😅 )
TZ is GMT+3
But I tend to stay up late lol
tender raptor
Okay, that's pretty good
woeful tree
I have a stable job, and a baby, so lots of moneys but no time
tender raptor
I am not sure which is better
graceful dust
no kids and 3 money is the best
(don't think I hate kids, that was a Simpsons reference)
woeful tree
Well, I didn't want kids, but my wife did, so we compromised and had a baby. But now we have her she's just so wonderful. Everyone should have kids.
graceful dust
You haven't met my step-son
misty dust
https://pyweek.org/e/pie/
if anyone has skills in art, music or such, or if they know at least some moths of python, i'm open
tender raptor
@misty dust I am currently in a team with one other. Both of us have programming backgrounds. I know some music. I see that you have your place in programming and visual art. Want to team up?
Actually, wait, what's your timezone?
misty dust
... that's what i feared.... i am utc+0
@tender raptor
visual art
nah i don't do art i'm a programmer / game designer
tender raptor
Oh
misty dust
but yk, i'd still like to know what's your team @tender raptor
tender raptor
@misty dust , as in, who is in the team I am in? It's just me and patryk.tech
undone lily
I'm Looking for some teammates of any coding level, dm/or ping me
hushed iris
@onyx basin check the pins dude, it's all there
onyx basin
lol thx
misty dust
@tender raptor no, as in, what's the name of the team, i can't seem to find it on the entries page
glacial trellis
is there anyone who is a graphics designer or an artist in general that would like to join a team
low tulip
Anyone want to form a team with me?
@onyx basin still looking for team?
tag me if u answer
pliant atlas
Does anybody know some very simple music composition tools? I want one for pyweek
If somebody responds please ping me so i can see the answer
tawdry night
Minecraft Noteblock Studio
graceful dust
@pliant atlas https://lmms.io/
graceful dust
Maybe not the simplest, but it's free, relatively simple (many tuts on YT), and has cool features...
pliant atlas
i do like a good tut
graceful dust
piano roll, beat editor... and synths.
pliant atlas
Yes and as a musical professional i know how to play the sinths
graceful dust
Also, comes with nintendo and game boy like chip synths.
pliant atlas
i mean paino rol
Yes i am an expert in the making of chip sinths
Like lays and doritos
Does downloading this make me a professional
?
tender raptor
I also recommend garageband.
normal wigeon
pearl oxide
which software did you use to create these emojis?
i wanted to create few for my project
@drowsy dagger (sry for the ping)
drowsy dagger
I didn't create them, but I think manusaurio used adobe illustrator
some of them were created with inkscape
vapid owl
I personally use Affinity Designer
@pearl oxide if you wanna try something similar out, I’d recommend Inkscape to get started, Affinity Designer when you want something really powerful, but not expensive and Adobe Illustrator when you’re a professional designer hahah
strong oxide
There's this tex guy that does amazing stuff with latex + inkscape
sullen bear
Affinity Designer is fantastic
pearl oxide
is it free?
strong oxide
and gimp is free
vapid owl
@sullen bear the best part of the affinity suite is probably studio link in publisher. It’s fantastic
vapid owl
What is?
pearl oxide
afinity
sullen bear
I haven't used publisher actually
graceful dust
I also recommend garageband.
I'm sure that's great, but I think it's OSX only... LMMS is cross platform (Linux, OSX, Win), and free/libre.
pearl oxide
i was talking in rupees
sullen bear
I only have designer for, design 😄
vapid owl
Aah, alright. Studio link basically lets you use Designer or Photo, straight in Publisher.
Something Adobe can’t do 😉
sullen bear
Huh
vapid owl
If you’re using Affinity Publisher, you can basically switch to using Affinity Designer with a single button, to edit the same document
sullen bear
- the theme is decided by the community between September 13th and September 20th
- You can use anything Python, including PyGame
I presume Python wrappers around OpenGL are also permitted
honest pumice
Ty sir 🙂 for the info
random sinew
ModernGL for the win!
honest pumice
I only know opengl😅 ||name only nothing more than that 😅 ||
graceful dust
I presume Python wrappers around OpenGL are also permitted
https://pyweek.readthedocs.io/en/latest/libraries.html there is pyglet, at least.
vagrant mason
ModernGL is a Python wrapper for OpenGL
random sinew
Surely @jade lichen would be crazy enough haha
solid star
^^^ This 😄
jade lichen
i would lol
strong oxide
challenge accepted
solid star
Arcade do have moderngl light api, so that could work too.
solid star
Wasabi2D?
jade lichen
pff. too high level 😉
solid star
You can probably hack in some shaders there
Mr. The Entier Game Must We Written With Compute Shaders
solid star
In all honesty I would probably be more productive with a game library I knew to some degree 🙂
With some exceptions depending on the game idea
onyx basin
Does everyone on a team need to fill out the sign up or just one member?
graceful dust
First person to register is responsible, I think.
My memory is shit but it says it in the docs.
onyx basin
Mk I'll check. Ty.
random sinew
@jade lichen @strong oxide wanna make an OpenGL only team? 
strong oxide
probably not doing any competition stuff until AoC this year
random sinew
Fair enough
vagrant mason
oooo i can't wait until AoC again
woeful tree
Arcade do have moderngl light api, so that could work too.
@solid star Wasabi2D has lighting shaders, on master: https://wasabi2d.readthedocs.io/en/latest/effects.html#wasabi2d.chain.Light
solid star
oh nice
So much fun stuff you can do with that kind of lighting
What I really meant was that arcade has a subset of the moderngl api with pyglet bindings, but still nice to learn about the new w2b features 🙂
sullen bear
metaballs!!
strong oxide
https://gist.github.com/salt-die/1e4a9d58934868ffafa87a672662f7fe metaballs if anyone wants to play with it
onyx basin
Ourteam is still looking for an artist if anyone wants to join.
Although I won't be heartbroken if we have to make an ascii game.
ocean swallowBOT
If you want to do 3D, I think Panda3D is a great choice for PyWeek as well, it's great for quickly getting a game out
</shameless-plug>
Plus it supports compute shaders ;-)
vapid owl
Hmm, why are you a webhook?
ocean swallowBOT
I'm in the IRC channel
vapid owl
What’s IRC now again?
ocean swallowBOT
Not sure if you're being sarcastic?
strong oxide
IRC = Internet's Really, really, really old Chat
vapid owl
No hahah. I’ve heard it a million times though, but I’m not 100% sure what it is
ocean swallowBOT
It's quite a simple but robust chat protocol, everyone in the free software community used it until everyone suddenly abandoned their principles and massively embraced the closed source proprietary walled garden that is Discord
@hardy violet obligatory xkcd https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/team_chat.png
vapid owl
Aah, alright. And how do you manage to get the messages sent to discord? Does @proud ruin send webhooks that you make?
ocean swallowBOT
There's a bot listening for messages, @jaunty roost
lusty wasp
I do also have an account on Discord but I sometimes find it a little cumbersome when I'm at a terminal and can't be bothered to launch a graphical interface just to run Discord 🙂
vapid owl
Js all that openly available, if I wanna try it out?
So, you basically use discord through a terminal??
lusty wasp
Well, I don't get access to the full functionality of Discord through IRC, it's just that this one IRC channel (#pyweek-game-jam on FreeNode) is linked up (with the above bridge) to this specific Discord channel
woeful tree
You say surprisingly robust, but IRC is pretty flawed
Of course we don't know how flawed Discord is because it's proprietary
lusty wasp
It's flawed but there's a certain simplicity and elegance to it, probably why SILC never caught on
If people had at least the freedom to write their own Discord clients, that'd be so much better
I'd not have to launch an X11 server just to be able to talk to other people…
All that said, all things considered Discord is in most ways a lot more usable than IRC
vapid owl
My phone died, but that sounds really cool. I may give it a try.
Would it be possible to hook up to #python-discussion as well?
lusty wasp
In theory.
It'd need to be set up with permission of the channel owners though.
The one in this channel was grandfathered in from the existing PyWeek server.
vapid owl
Aah, alright
It sounds quite convenient to be able to access #python-discussion straight from the command line
lusty wasp
There is a Python community on IRC though.
#python on FreeNode IRC.
Quite big last time I checked.
vagrant mason
yuup, it's on https://www.python.org/community/
vapid owl
I’ll definitely check that out
sullen bear
hmmmm, I'm somewhat doubtful of the use in python-general (open to it, however)
vagrant mason
we'd somehow need to be able to moderate that
sullen bear
yeah, that's true
lusty wasp
A little nervous about applying this bot that's running on my small dedi to a large channel
woeful tree
Well, even high message traffic is only tens of messages a minute
sullen bear
if the bot is running here it is already receiving all that traffic
woeful tree
I would expect a basic Python message forwarder to be able to do hundreds of messages a second
lusty wasp
Fair enough.
It's not a lot of traffic.
Man, cool to see so many people here. Looks like PyWeek is going to be packed with entries this time :-) I'm excited as usual, though I may have less time than usual due to being behind on a lot of work.
vapid owl
I can’t seem to find a good way around the moderation issue. The only way to do it would probably be to filter everything through @proud ruin and enable blocking certain authors. Still, it doesn’t sound too plausible
lusty wasp
You could moderate on the IRC end.
vapid owl
Man, cool to see so many people here. Looks like PyWeek is going to be packed with entries this time :-) I'm excited as usual, though I may have less time than usual due to being behind on a lot of work.
@lusty wasp it’s the first time for me 😄 looking forward to the event