game-development

[fallow glade]

Awesome

[halcyon heart]

Thanks! Glad you like it!

[dawn quiver]

hello I am wondering if anyone in this server would be willing to help us with our project if you are interested please dm me.

[simple belfry]

I think if you want some more people to be interested you should give some more details without DMing you

[dawn quiver]

we are an project that makes cryptography puzzles and we need a python programmer to auto the progress and work with numbers etc.

[ornate pivot]

how much python knowledge should i have before starting on a game

i do have some code knowledge in java

[simple belfry]

honestly you should have flexible knowledge of python basics (how to define functions, classes etc) or know where to look for them. Choose a game module of your choice and dive into basics of displaying sprites, some UI. Just enough to know what you are actually doing. And go on! For warm up, make something small, but extended by you in some way, to not just copy the code from a tutorial. Also I would recommend you to make games that you would have fun of playing.

[simple belfry]

It will definitly help you in taking up new language so that's good

[shell scroll]

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[sinful lodge]

i made the stats count up, now i just need to position them, where should i position the stats?

[covert fern]

Could someone dm me and teach me how to use this

[sinful lodge]

read the ursina docs? that's pretty much all the resources on ursina. just experiment with it

[covert fern]

Do you guys know good pygame tutorials I can follow.

[crimson jackal]

Check pins

[glad socket]

u can check out dafluffypotato tutorials or techwithtim

tbh even pygame docs are fine

[zealous void]

Do you know python ? Because if you don’t know python. You gotta learn the basic first. I did the same thing. I wanted to learn how to make a game before learning the basic first

[sinful lodge]

just an overview of what i've done

[grand whale]

just maked a physics engine added kinactic and static objects!

[grand whale]

wow great!

[grand whale]

make more levels and publish it ig

[sinful lodge]

yup i'm planning to add a level editor so players can make their own maps

[grand whale]

cool!

[sinful lodge]

thx 👍

[grand whale]

np!

[sinful lodge]

nice physics btw, i'd like to see how this turns out

[grand whale]

thanks!

[steady path]

I have some sprite of a robot with various mouth designs... I wanted to control it with the given audio. Kinda like a virtual character. At first, I tried forced aligners, but most of those are not available for windows or are pretty complex. So right now I am thinking, of faking it kinda like Talking tom but 2D. Any idea, link .. where I can use spectrum intensity to control sprite. Thank you...

[covert fern]

I know some stuff

[zealous void]

Oh ok ok good @covert fern

[covert fern]

like very little

:l

[pallid topaz]

Does anyone know how to trigger events through toggle on unity

[severe vale]

!rule 6

[frank field]

Rules

6. Do not post unapproved advertising.

[covert jungle]

So um

Anybody have any hints for perlin noise in 3D

?

I've done basic 2D perlin noise with some nice results, just 3D seems hard to wrap my head around

[simple belfry]

If I will make a game using pygame, is it possible to compile it somehow that it will be possible to play it in browser?

[grand whale]

idk

[grand whale]

????

[hidden eagle]

The closest thing would be web assembly.

https://pyodide.org/en/stable/

Altough the process is a headache and there are uncertainties along the way.

Nothing guarantees pygame will work

You're better off just not using python

[simple belfry]

Ok thanks, maybe something like Kaboom js will be better

[sinful lodge]

nope

[dawn quiver]

Hi. Ive lost interest in my current project. Hopefully ill come back to it. In the mean time does anyone want to code with me? I like to make games and teach beginners.

anyone?

[dawn quiver]

no noobs want to make a game with me?

[dawn quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/shall-we-play-a-game-typing-type-can-we-play-a-game-do-you-want-to-play-gif-17643701

[exotic niche]

[topaz badger]

I had no idea there was game developement in python

[simple belfry]

python can be everywhere

[dawn quiver]

you're making it in pygame?

[dawn quiver]

I mean it's not like it's used in unity or unreal engine

most game dev you can do is on pygame

[dawn quiver]

im making that game in C and SDL2 but im open to make games in any framework

[dawn quiver]

What's your game's genre

my game is just a clone of a game called puzzle quest

a rpg set in fantasy middle ages where you fight monsters

[dawn quiver]

How's coding using C

i kinda like it

wish i had namespace though

I'm still a beginner at python but from what I've read C is pretty hard

its not that hard

Relatively hard

Was it your first language?

C++ was

[topaz badger]

What are the limitations of pygame?

[dawn quiver]

Very limited

most you can do is 2d games

and like basic 3d stuff

[topaz badger]

I saw some guy here make a 3d game with a wand and stuff

Cause ive always wanted to make my own game engines cause sometimes i dont like how unity hides all the messy stuff

[grand whale]

: (

[grand whale]

i have maked a physics engine in pygame

you can make game engine also in it

can you show your level map list?

[dawn quiver]

well you don't learn python for game Dev after all

[grand whale]

so say this to c++ devs also

all language devs

who use their language to do game dev

[dawn quiver]

I mean c++ is used in unity

[grand whale]

what

[dawn quiver]

most you can do with python is pygame

[grand whale]

its c#

[tranquil girder]

I learned Python for gamedev, so yes, you do

[grand whale]

yeah

[grand whale]

so python used in blender engine

[dawn quiver]

Blender is a bad game engine

[grand whale]

bruh

[dawn quiver]

My bad, C++ was used in unreal though right

think I mixed them up

[grand whale]

we are talking about languages

not game engines

c++ was never indented for game dev

[dawn quiver]

But we're talking about their usage in game development

and C++ as well as C# are a lot more commonly used because they're simply better for game Dev

As evidenced by how many games are powered by those languages and how little big budget games are powered by pthon

[grand whale]

try c++ then it like kicking your ass for 5 hours in computer

[dawn quiver]

python

[tranquil girder]

I find Python better than those for game development

[grand whale]

python is a lot easier

in game dev

[dawn quiver]

Just because it's easier doesn't mean it's better

or even a good way to develop games

I can't think of any famous games made by python because of how eh of a language it is

[grand whale]

first

python is recently build

c++ is freaking old

and c#

[dawn quiver]

Python 2 came out in 2000

[grand whale]

also

[dawn quiver]

Python is not recent.

C++ was in the 90s

as well as C#

Late 90s as well

Same age pretty much

again there is a reason it is not used with unity and unreal engine

It's not a good game development language

We'll just end up going in circles and it seems like you're getting offended on behalf of the language

so I'll just go

[tranquil girder]

Why not? I make games in python every day and it's great

[dawn quiver]

Can you read

I just stated above why

[grand whale]

you think that tell whats in c# and c++ that makes it better?

[dawn quiver]

what

[grand whale]

i am saying

why c++ and c# a good gamedev language

[tranquil girder]

I don't think "it's "too new" and "it's eh" are compelling arguments tbh

[dawn quiver]

When did I say it's too new

[tranquil girder]

here

[dawn quiver]

And yes I agree it's not a compelling argument

[dawn quiver]

I said it's not new....

[tranquil girder]

wait., nvm :P

[dawn quiver]

Can you actually read lol

[tranquil girder]

it was the other guy who said that, sry

[grand whale]

hmm i think this arugment will never end

we should stop

ok?

[grand whale]

use ursina for 3d stuff

its very great

there are very cool ursina user like

@tranquil girder

ok

[normal silo]

Not everybody needs to make a famous game. I did my last game jam with Python (Panda3D) and it was fine (also the one before that with Ursina). I have also used C and C++ for game and game engine development (and game jams), and while those are the "serious" languages for making a game engine (many engines still have another scripting language for making the actual game logic (e.g. Panda3D)), it's not like that really applies to all games. Sometimes you want to make a game in a very high level way without much setup and it won't run fast (many games will run at 60 fps even with Python on modern hardware), but it's a game. Also Python still lets you write shaders so a lot of what will makes a game look good can still be done and will run fast if you are worried about your Python game looking plain.

As an individual making a game, your main issue will be content/assets either way. They take a lot of time to make and require another skill set.

Also, you can write parts in C or C++ and create bindings to Python if you want/need to do so.

(Or Cython's extended Python language)

(Or in the case of something like Panda3D, you can easily mix C++ and Python, the API for the engine is almost identical for both)

[round obsidian]

the vast wealth of existing game development tools that work with them

[grand whale]

ok

[round obsidian]

same, I made my own games in Python and released them to Itch, and they didn't have to be big things. Most people who start off wanting to make games have no idea how much work is actually involved, and so they download something like Unity and drown in it. They're better off making something on a small scale where they understand the pieces, even if they're the only ones playing it

[crystal prism]

b-but its fast

its good btw i use it

[dawn quiver]

My point was mostly while python is a viable way to make a game, it's not really something I think most people learn python for because python is good at back ending for websites and at making apps

just most programmers I know only recommend learning C# or C++

For game dev

[round obsidian]

if I was going to learn the basics of state management in a game, I'd rather first learn those concepts by way of a language like Python rather than a language like C# or C++

[normal silo]

It's not something most people learn to make games, but that can change. Unless you are looking to be hired it's not really important.

[dawn quiver]

Ye

[normal silo]

But also if you learn to make games in Python, switching to something more popular should not be an issue.

[dawn quiver]

Game Dev with python is surprisingly unutilised

Granted I'm not deep enough into programming to understand why

[normal silo]

Learning a new language like C# is something that does not take nearly as long as just learning how games are made in general / getting fast at that.

[dawn quiver]

but maybe a big name engine will adopt python some day?

[normal silo]

Technically Panda3D came from Disney, so if you include the past, it already was big.

It's just trends, I would recommend not getting caught up in them.

[dawn quiver]

Meant in modern times

[normal silo]

Right now most are focused on Unity and Unreal because they have the momentum / huge community and asset stores (you can basically buy a game in Unity).

In the indie space it's doing just fine, but Unity's popularity usually makes most rush to it and it's honestly a bit of a trap.

[dawn quiver]

Those are called asset flips for a reason

[normal silo]

As an indie dev you can use whatever you want, so if you like Python go for it.

(Godot is also starting to get big and forming the big three engines out there (popularity), and it technically has Python as an option, especially when version 4.0 is out (plus GDscript is very much based on Python))

[sinful lodge]

hey squiggle, mind sharing the link to the games you've made? just interested in what kind of games you make, you seem like an expert

[normal silo]

I'm not a professional game developer and have relatively little game development experience in Python. But here is a ludum dare game jam entry: https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/49/unstable-ball-game .

I like to use game jams to learn a new engine, in this case Panda3D.

[round obsidian]

here's one I created in Python
https://xtaloid.itch.io/xtaloid

[sinful lodge]

no textures 😂😂 but interesting concept

[normal silo]

Yeah, as is typical with short time game jams I ran into some issues that stalled me from making nice assets.

[sinful lodge]

looks just like an arcade game

nice work

[sinful lodge]

what do you mainly do again?

[round obsidian]

exactly my intention! thanks :D

[sinful lodge]

yup, might wanna add some particle effects when killing stuff to make the game look more juicy

[round obsidian]

oh, sure, I have a lot of stuff in that vein lined up. Mostly I have been busy with other things (finishing a book, starting another), so I work on it when I can

[normal silo]

I'm an AGI researcher / roboticist / simulation (simulate the robots and other agents) (which is where my game development experience comes in handy).

I hang out mostly in #data-science-and-ml.

[sinful lodge]

ohh dsa?

and ai

[normal silo]

They are closely related so it's one room instead of two.

[normal silo]

Some more Python stuff (Ursina). I like to mess around with voxels. But making a game with them is hard (game design) so I don't usually put them in games.

[proven iris]

Interesting AGI research rather than narrow applied ML ....

[proven iris]

I learned C# before Python because of the way history unfolded lol

[normal silo]

We do make applicable things, but we don't hyper focus in on one thing and build a large extensive product package out of it. Making something interesting / progress is more important to us than a comfy income via specialization.

(plus all the time for marketing / business / etc)

[proven iris]

Great nice to see somebody doing research

[proven iris]

All that is alot of work

[dawn quiver]

what

[normal silo]

Yeah, and right now there is so much progress being made in AI that by the time we would have a nice product out of something and all that, it would already be very behind. Ofc, we need to every now and then stop and spend some time on that to not go out of business.

Opportunity cost, it is what it is.

[dawn quiver]

Machine learning and AI seem like very interesting fields

[proven iris]

Interesting so it is product supported and not some goverment or university funded lab begging for grants...

[normal silo]

Yes, that's in part due to our approach to AGI, it's very results / reality focused. If it does not work in testing then it's thrown away.

Which results in things that can actually be used.

[proven iris]

Very practical I worked with a uni robotics lab for a while and we spun off an a startup... begging for grants can only get you so far..

[normal silo]

Yeah grants can be somewhat of a trap in terms of time spent trying to get them and unreliability.

[grand whale]

i also use it

[proven iris]

My workplace was a Microsoft shop and I was already working in the late 90s... back then open source wasnt as strong as it was. During the transition to .net the shop gave us VB.net and C# training prior to that we used VB 6.0 and FoxPro....Python then had Perl as a competitor

I taught myself Python and used it for OMR file parsing and processing tool for admin stuff and a Research project that got published in a local Physics Journal

[grand whale]

wow

[proven iris]

I did Y2K work migrating a VAX Cobol system to FoxPro lol

[sinful lodge]

oh yeah, i remember you sharing this in the ursina server

[grand whale]

lol

[grand whale]

sir i was not even born when python came

i feel nostaglia for you lol

[cold storm]

geonodes / modifiers off

[unreal river]

How do I initialize glut in python? because when I initialize it requires 2 arguments but those arguments that are required is almost impossible to get in this function

glutInit()

[alpine hare]

hey guys new to python..and i want to be a game developer

[dawn quiver]

hello everyone I will say it in md someone knows about blender scripting

[glad socket]

i need pygame ideas

for beginners

[glad socket]

learn python first

[whole agate]

hi, does someone know how can i use tkinter to doa blindtest with python

[fleet chasm]

Hey guys python is good for game development

[glad socket]

yes

[round obsidian]

I like using it. I've already developed a few small games in it. It's a good way to get your sea legs with game making

[alpine hare]

okay..but how

[grand whale]

reverse time!

[grand whale]

watch some tuts

[fleet chasm]

Ok ,Cool I'm gonna start ..

[sinful lodge]

tbh you should learn python first

[sinful lodge]

it's easy to work with for smaller scale games, but it's not really used in the industry imo, like you wouldnt use it for an open world game where you have many entities, python's performance is absolutely crap

[covert fern]

How do I do movement code with keys???????

[real jetty]

are you using pygame?

[covert fern]

Yes

Just curious

Cause I tried some yesterday and they never worked

[real jetty]

you have to create an if statement and then use if keys[pygame.K_LEFT] if you want to move leftwards

and so the condition would be x -= vel

or the velocity of your object

[covert fern]

:l

[real jetty]

and x as in the x position of the object

[covert fern]

Confused

[real jetty]

im pretty new to this stuff but

from what i understand

you have to set an x coordinate for your object initially to show where it will appear

on the screen

[real jetty]

and then you write this line of code for which direction you want to move

instead of K_LEFT you can use any key

like K_RIGHT

or even letters like K_d to move left

and since the x coordinates decrease going to the left

it would be something like this

if keys[pygame.K_LEFT]:
x -= vel

oh yeah almost forgot

you have to set the keys variable to this first

keys = pygame.key.get_pressed()

hope you understood

i might be wrong about some stuff soo yea

[normal silo]

What have you made in pygame? Show code.

[covert fern]

I was planning on making a moving game but I want to know how to move with key presses first before making the game

[normal silo]

Can you move objects without key presses?

[covert fern]

How ...

[normal silo]

Not sure what you mean. Is this an answer to my question?

[covert fern]

Idk how

K thought you can only move them with keys

[normal silo]

Do you know how to draw something with pygame?

[covert fern]

No I'm a noob

[grand whale]

oh

i will give you a snippet to draw a rect

@covert fern

try this

wait

pygame.init()
back = (192,192,192)
gameDisplay = pygame.display.set_mode((800,600))
pygame.display.set_caption('A bit Racey')
gameDisplay.fill(back)
clock = pygame.time.Clock()
running = True
while running:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            running = False

    pygame.draw.rect(gameDisplay,)(255,0,0),[100,100,50,50])
    pygame.display.update()
    clock.tick(60)   
pygame.quit()
quit()```

[covert fern]

Oh thanks

I can't really do it now but thabks

[grand whale]

np

[dawn quiver]

@grand whale guess who's trying to make a game in python after talking all that shit about it

so uh just wanted to ask where I'd start if I wanna make a basic 3d one

[grand whale]

i think use ursina for 3d

if you want to challemge yourself use pygame

[dawn quiver]

yea that's what I'm doing rn

[grand whale]

wow then use pygme!

i have mked a rotating 3d cube in pygame

and opengl

[dawn quiver]

I see

I'll try my hand at that

I wanna render a room you could say

[grand whale]

you want code : )

[dawn quiver]

just enough for a boomer shooter

Nah, can you give me resources for how to 3d render

[grand whale]

hmm i dont think so it will be easy to do that it will be very hard

[dawn quiver]

thanks for the offer though

[grand whale]

use ursina for that type for stuff

[dawn quiver]

Ye, thought it'd be

I'll check ursina out

[sinful lodge]

• notifications
• jsonize map data and save it

[echo ledge]

Hi. I have a question. If you use this:
Example_Question = input("Hi! Go left or right?")
And then,
Print Example_Question
if Example_Question == ("Left"):
And now, you put in some code,
elif Example_Question ==("Right")
Then, you survive and you put this in a loop if they give the correct answer.
After a while, the game just ends even when there's more code.

[grand whale]

cool!

[plucky saffron]

hi guys I have a large 3d scene with roughly 2000 stars/orbiting planets and am looking to use an octree spatial query structure to improve performance. I am using django with three js on the front end; from my understanding I cannot import modules/libraries and can only import within html tags linking to a hosted text doc. The following library looks great, however I do not see a relevant html tag https://github.com/vanruesc/sparse-octree. Am I correct in my understanding, that I need an html tag? Is there a way to create one? Alternatively, is there another appropriate library that does have an appropriate html tag? Thanks in advance.

[normal silo]

#web-development But also, you can just load the javascript from your own server.

[proven jolt]

Hi so basically I'm trying to play audio using the pygame library, everything works fine up untill now, however I can't seem to change the volume of the audio*? I have a vague idea of why it doesn't work but I don't know how to solve it.

This is the code I'm using:

    def set_volume(self, vol: float) -> None:
        # self.volume = round(vol * 100) <- this part does not matter
        self.pmixer.music.set_volume(vol)

        return

There is no error.

I think the problem is that I try to change the volume immediately after I start playing the audio. For example if I freeze my script using time.sleep() for as much as 0.1 second, or even less, I am able to change the volume. Does anybody know how to solve my issue? (Note: Yes I do need to be able to change the volume immediately after starting the loaded file.)

[dawn quiver]

my game that i developed myself 😄
https://github.com/storm772/Jackpot-Python/

It's a really basic Jackpot game, i'm kinda new to Python and I've decided to "challenge" myself, feel free to give me suggestions on how to improve on Python.
Coding video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csyg3R8NMV0

I plan on adding graphics to this, using pygame or tkinter

Everything about the game explained on README.md (on github)

[normal silo]

You can try to make it clear the console before printing the new spin.

[dawn quiver]

how?

[normal silo]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/clear-screen-python/

[dawn quiver]

Im executing the code in IDLE shell, so it don't work for me xD

but thanks anyways

😄

[normal silo]

You can try making the game more suspenseful since it's a slot machine. I recommend printing whether or not you won AFTER you print the slots and adding a delay between printing rows.

(you can use time's sleep for the delay between rows)

Also btw: ```
[0][0][0] is a row

[0]
[0] is a column
[0]

[regal badger]

how do you make a transparent rectangle with pygame.draw.rect?

[dawn quiver]

set the alpha of the current drawing color to something like 100

[unreal river]

Well you can't do that with rects but you can do it in surfaces, just write a function that returns a surface with an alpha set to it.

def get_surface(rect, alpha):
    return pygame.Surface((rect.w, rect.h)).set_alpha(alpha)
```and then draw the surface with the rect's position

[dawn quiver]

yeah i was wrong i think

[regal badger]

Thank you

[dawn quiver]

Does anyone know how to get a list of all the red pixels on a screen in pygame?

Red being (255,0,0)

[sinful lodge]

pretty sure you can loop through every pixel and get their color with win.get_at() or something like that

[dawn quiver]

A loop would stop the game until it's done

[sinful lodge]

take it or leave it

alternatively use threading

[fast basalt]

I tried To make a start screen for a 2D game using pygame by using this function
def game_intro():

intro = True

while intro:

    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT:
            pygame.quit()

        if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN:
            if event.key == pygame.K_c:
                intro = False

        if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN:
            if event.key == pygame.K_q:
                pygame.quit
    screen.fill(WHITE)
    draw_text(screen, "Hello", 75, WIDTH / 2, 10)

    pygame.display.flip()
    clock.tick(15)

but when I press c my screen flashes to the game and then flashes back to this white screen. What do I do to fix it?

[dawn quiver]

your application can only have one main loop called the game loop. Based on what state your game is in you render and update different things.

Does this make sense? A simple game might look like this

running = True
state = 1
while running:
  for event in pygame.events.get():
    if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN:
      if event.key == pygame.K_c:
        state = 2
      if event.key == pygame.K_q:
        state = 0
  if state == 1:
    menu_render()
    menu_update()
  else if state == 2:
    game_render()
    game_update()
  else if state == 0:
    running = False
  pygame.display.update()

I hope this helps

[fast basalt]

It helps a lot, thank you so much

[dawn quiver]

You could even have the event loop inside a call to menu_update

instead of having it outside

this way you can have the a key trigger the play game in a menu then the a key does something different in game

this is all very simplified but its something to get you started

[dawn quiver]

developed another game with the same mechanics, but this time it can accept diagonal, horizonal and vertical slots (at the same time)
learning python

Coding video: https://youtu.be/4_FoQR6f6uE
GitHub: https://github.com/storm772/Jackpot-Python-V2

Indicators:

• Y1, Y2, Y3: 1st, 2nd, 3rd column is the same
• X1, X2, X3: 1st, 2nd, 3rd row is the same
• Z1-Z3, Z3-Z1: Diagonal from X1 to X3 and from X3 to X1

[dawn quiver]

so slot machine?

kinda

[dawn quiver]

maybe try your hand at making bejeweled

it has something interesting logic behind it

what do you mean by bejeweled?

candy crush

ooooo i see

match 3 games

i'm not familiarized with pygame or tkinter at all xD

i wouldnt use tkinter

id use pygame

but one day I will try to learn those, so I can add graphics to that

[dawn quiver]

btw, thats looking awesome

i made all the algortihms for it

maybe one day ill tie it all together

do you have it on github or whatever?

or just on your computer? xD

its in C and SDL2 so im not sure if youd gain much from looking at the code

but i have it on github yes

ohhhhh

i thought it was on python

you can make it in python if you want to though

I mean, i don't understand a single line of C lmao

theres not much difference

[dense forge]

you guys good with classes?

[dawn quiver]

what do you need help with specifically

[dawn quiver]

can you send it to me?

[dawn quiver]

sure just a sec

ok, thanks!

[dense forge]

its a question @dawn quiver #help-cherries

[dawn quiver]

https://github.com/Vaxeral/Match/tree/main/src

the source is very messy

thank you

if you have any questions about how i did anything you can ask

sure 😄

@dawn quiver

never mind

[dawn quiver]

try adding this to your shell command -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/pathto/gcc

your gonna need to find the path to a c compiler

maybe try which cc in your terminal

thanks for finding that bug ill have to update the cmake file in the future

[unreal thistle]

hey

im using pygame

i have 720x720p

but when i blit my image

i just dont see it

i put the image on coordinates 0 0

[dawn quiver]

Try an open gater.

[dawn quiver]

Why does is say "failed with"

[dawn quiver]

post the code here and i might be able to help

[mighty plank]

hey guys

im just asking what are the paramiters of the rect method in pygame

[dawn quiver]

like to draw a rect?

[mighty plank]

im done with that

now my problem is that it lags

as in when im pressing left it moves left but it disapears and teleports to the left

and then moves normaly

[mighty plank]

any remedy for that?

[dawn quiver]

show your code

[dawn quiver]

^^^

either use a paste site or put it here in code blocks

[mighty plank]

okie

[dawn quiver]

```py

code goes here

[mighty plank]

import pygame

def updt():
    pygame.display.update()


pygame.init()
root = pygame.display.set_mode((750,600))
pygame.display.set_caption("Spectrum")
root.fill((150,225,150))
updt()

fps = 60
clock = pygame.time.Clock()
ingame = True

x = 10

vel = 20

while ingame:
    root.fill((150,225,150))
    character = pygame.draw.rect(root,(255,155,200),(int(x),int(300),int(50),int(50)))
    for evnt in pygame.event.get():    

        updt()
        if evnt.type == pygame.QUIT:
            ingame == False()

    pygame.time.delay(65)

    keyinpt = pygame.key.get_pressed()
    if keyinpt[pygame.K_a]:
        x -= vel
    if keyinpt[pygame.K_d]:
        x += vel

[dawn quiver]

you are delaying a second i think

you want to limit the framerate to 60 frames per second

in place of this pygame.time.delay(65)

do pygame.time.Clock().tick(60)

[mighty plank]

okie lemme try

[dawn quiver]

a frame is one loop of your game loop

so you want 60 of those per second

[mighty plank]

its still lagging

instead of smooth movement

it just teleports to where its suppose to be

[dawn quiver]

post your code again . . .

ohhhhh

[mighty plank]

import pygame

def updt():
    pygame.display.update()


pygame.init()
root = pygame.display.set_mode((750,600))
pygame.display.set_caption("Spectrum")
root.fill((150,225,150))
updt()

fps = 32
clock = pygame.time.Clock()
ingame = True

x = 10

vel = 5

while ingame:
    root.fill((150,225,150))

    character = pygame.draw.rect(root,(255,155,200),(int(x),int(300),int(50),int(50)))

    for evnt in pygame.event.get():    

        updt()
        if evnt.type == pygame.QUIT:
            ingame == False()

    pygame.time.Clock().tick(fps)
    
    keyinpt = pygame.key.get_pressed()
    if keyinpt[pygame.K_a]:
        x -= vel
    if keyinpt[pygame.K_d]:
        x += vel

[dawn quiver]

your calling pygame.display.update() in the wrong place

call it at the end of your game loop

not where you handle events

[mighty plank]

...

thanks

hahahahahahha

[dawn quiver]

also updt is a bad name for a function

it should be descriptive

and why that function at all

[mighty plank]

easier to type

[dawn quiver]

it only calls the pygame update function

so might as well use that

well you only need this function a few times

and very lil times the case is that you need something to be easier to type

compared to easier to understand

the function as far as i see it is uneeded indirection

functions are good to have but when they serve a purpose

[mighty plank]

okie

[dawn quiver]

glad i could help

[mighty plank]

i deleted the functuin

thanks

there is collision in pygame right?

[dawn quiver]

um maybe im not sure

[dawn quiver]

there are some functions that allow you to check rect vs rect collision

[mighty plank]

cewl cewl ok

[dawn quiver]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/luzebofule

tried to make mario like physics

but i think this is far from it

i make him move in the air more freely by incressing the horizontal force applied when pressing left / right while in the air

so i like the freedom of movement

maybe his speed should also affect how long he jumps

[normal silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwONt4r2rMM

https://www.amazon.com/Game-Feel-Designers-Sensation-Kaufmann/dp/0123743281/

Despite Mario being an old game, it's a bit more complex than it might seem.

To make the gameplay feel good.

[normal silo]

Mario falling faster with the increased gravity effect is especially important because platformers tend to often suffer from "floaty" physics (lot's of other physics based games do too).

[dawn quiver]

he goes up a lil slower then he falls down

enough time to react in air

right?

oh right falling

faster

then jumping

alright

[dawn quiver]

Hi

@normal silo we have to do this

Right

[dawn quiver]

have to do what?

The game

[dawn quiver]

This

i mean . . .

if you want to replicate marios physics sure

👍 👍

Thanks for answering this question

[mighty plank]

sooo

i want my object to stop after hitting something

like the edge of the screen

or any objects i want to add

how would i do that in pygame

!paste

[mighty plank]

nvr mnd

now

can i put a bool in the

pygame.time.Clock.tick()

[plucky saffron]

thanks for your response can you expand on what you mean? At this point in time, the project does not use node. Is there a way to host js without node? I am currently trying to implement node, however it is preferable not too set up the project again as we have all the connections to the database etc (I have not really been involved in the backend) in place. Do you have any comments on this?

[mighty plank]

u can put self in the paramiters of a function right?

[mighty plank]

how do i fix this

my jump motion is too fast

[dawn quiver]

you need to implement deltatime somehow

oh my gosh im so sorry i didn't disabled ping

[mighty plank]

its fine

i wouldnt have seen this message if i wasnt pinged

[dawn quiver]

so, what was your problem with your game?

if it was the delay to walk i fixed it ^^

its kinda smooth now

i just did what vaxeral#100821 said

if you want me to send it, i send

the "Spectrum" one

[normal silo]

You are using Django, a Python web server library which can serve whatever files you want over http/https, that includes javascript. In the html when you put a script tag with a URL, it tries to load a script from that URL. You can have the URL pointing to your own server.

In short, you can download whatever javscript library (given that the license permits) you want and put it on your own web server.

[grand whale]

You can make delta time by '''dt = clock.tick(60) *0.001 * 60'''

[dawn quiver]

or dt = clock.tick(fps)*0.001 * fps

if you have a fps variable

[dense forge]

whats the best place to get a bunch of 2d game assets?

[dawn quiver]

google

[dense forge]

any websites u recomend ?

cause i can't find anything good thats free

[tranquil girder]

kenney

[deft nexus]

Sup guys have someone made a Minecraft plugin in python? I have read that it is possible via spigot.

[rocky elbow]

which is the best module in python for game development?

[deft nexus]

@dense forge https://opengameart.org/
U can filter there via copyright free licenses and u can find many arts with CC0/it's free license

[dawn quiver]

pygame

[rocky elbow]

...

[dawn quiver]

?

[rocky elbow]

nothin

[dawn quiver]

Pygame is literally the only one game developement python module

[rocky elbow]

and what if I want to make fre fire in python

[proper peak]

that's quite a [citation needed] chief

[dawn quiver]

you cant

[proper peak]

!pypi arcade

[frank field]

arcade v2.6.10

Arcade Game Development Library

[rocky elbow]

ca I make it using pygame

[dawn quiver]

freefire is 3d

[rocky elbow]

do python cant make 3D games

[proper peak]

depending how you define "game engine", also panda3d, pyglet...

[dawn quiver]

thats hard

with a lot of effort you can

[rocky elbow]

yeah and champions only do hard work

[proper peak]

!pypi panda3d I mean...

[frank field]

Panda3D v1.10.11.post1

Panda3D is a framework for 3D rendering and game development for Python and C++ programs.

[rocky elbow]

thats why they are caled champions

getting that error

even in opeing python.org

please help

[dawn quiver]

...

[deft nexus]

Isn't it python.pypi.org ?

[rocky elbow]

yeah

..please help..

PLEASE................................................

I want to study python gaming

[deft nexus]

Well try another browser

[rocky elbow]

I tried

I asked it from google

[deft nexus]

What OS do you have

[rocky elbow]

windows 7 32 bit

😦

[dawn quiver]

hes trolling

[rocky elbow]

no

man I really need help

[deft nexus]

Download Linux then

[rocky elbow]

I have but

kali linux 1.1

[dawn quiver]

you installed discord, can take screenshots, know what OS you have but dont know how to bypass that error lol

[rocky elbow]

yeah

coz I am a nooob

[dawn quiver]

also to have kali linux you need access its website and download it manually

nah ur trolling

[deft nexus]

With Kali you should already hack the whole pypi

[dawn quiver]

^

lmao

[rocky elbow]

bro linux is giving me the error that this website is not certificated

[deft nexus]

Probably you have already done it and corrupted their certification authority server lel

[rocky elbow]

there are alot of errors in linux coz of an older version

no man

[dawn quiver]

ok cool

[rocky elbow]

I tried to study some Ehacking but I am having a series of errors

thats why I cant study it

😦

[forest lichen]

hey does anybody in here know ursina

[forest lichen]

hey

[deft nexus]

I don't know what it is

[snow hill]

(quite fast for a Python program... 😅 )

[kind flare]

is it possible to hack fivem using python?

[potent ice]

Read the server rules. We don't discuss these things here. Use common sense

[mild oar]

Depends on what you wanna do, but u need a permission from them to hack them

[forest lichen]

hey

[mild oar]

Hey

[forest lichen]

you know ursina?

[mild oar]

It that like joe mama joke?

[forest lichen]

no

[mild oar]

Idk it

[forest lichen]

like- ursina engine?

ok

[mild oar]

Is it like unity?

[forest lichen]

nothing like it

[mild oar]

It’ s powered by python

Doesnt sound too performant

[dawn quiver]

so i'm writing an evolution simulator, and i'm wondering, how tough would it be for me to link into something like pygame at a later point to handle rendering it?

[lost hound]

Shouldn't be too bad

When I get game developing I often have the logic and rendering done separately of each other (This is often in C++ however the same applies to pygame in python)

Then once the rendering is up and running I shouldn't really need to mess with it and I can just worry about physics/logic behind the objects

[dawn quiver]

That's how I also plan to tackle it 😄

[sinful lodge]

can load exisitng maps now

[snow hill]

great work 🙂

[sinful lodge]

thx 👌

[snow hill]

is it done with Panda3D ?

[sinful lodge]

ursina

[deft nexus]

Usrina seems too easy to work with

[half obsidian]

i am working on a game with infinite world generation

[frank field]

Hey @half obsidian!

It looks like you tried to attach a Python file - please use a code-pasting service such as https://paste.pythondiscord.com

[half obsidian]

why?

cant i paste one

@latent stone

[latent stone]

Hello there

You should use the code pasting service the bot asked you to

We don't allow file attachments like that because it can be hard to moderate and in any case most people prefer not to have to download something directly to view

(also next time there's no need to ping random helpers; if you have a question about why things are the way they are you could ask @light nest or #community-meta 🍏)

[glossy wren]

Hi. I'm building a pygame game similar to the Chrome Dinosaur game and I need side-facing character icons (similar to the dinosaur) for my character. I've searched for icons online but I can't find good side-facing icons. Do anyone of you know where I can get some good side-facing icons?

[grand whale]

wdym?

[fallow glade]

There are sites with free assets as well as asset giveaways usually on itch.io

[grand whale]

You can simply flip your sprite if by pygame.flip()

[radiant sage]

python game development is a waste of time

[robust snow]

yo

what

the hell

[radiant sage]

?

[robust snow]

no

it aint a waste of itme

time

[radiant sage]

what makes you say that?

[deft nexus]

@glossy wren try www.opengameart.org

@radiant sage cuz u will skill up your python skills

I learned python via pgzero and then switched to pygame

[radiant sage]

yes but its
a) too much to learn
b) python has a slow runtime
c) python is not made to be compiled and is harder to compile safely
d) you can use game engines like unity to do it more efficiently

[deft nexus]

Yea u cant have A title games via python

But it's really worth it

[radiant sage]

you cant really publish your project though

aka someone with 0 python experience cant run it

[normal silo]

This is not true.

[normal silo]

Also why are you instigating?

[plush scarab]

Apparently eve online is made with python

[radiant sage]

im not instigating

im raising a controversial point

not everything has to be perfect

[normal silo]

You went into a Python channel which is about development of games in Python and then implied that everyone here was wasting their time with it. I'm not a mod, but that's ban worthy.

[radiant sage]

am I not allowed to raise points or do i have to compy, nod, and salute?

[round obsidian]

we're here to be helpful to people who want to use Python for game development. your comments aren't constructive, and we don't appreciate that here.

[dreamy dove]

pygame is really supposed to teach you stuff not use it commercially

it makes you not rely on tools provided by other people

[chrome copper]

hey im trying to figure out how to have my python game be compile which i think will allow people to play even without python downloaded. py2app wont work for me.

also it there a way to make it so they cant edit and read the games data?

im currently making a text based rpg style game

[plush scarab]

@chrome copper pyinstaller?

[chrome copper]

havent heard of it ill take a look

ok it wouldnt work i use 3.9 python it says it only supports 2.3 up to 2.7

[dawn quiver]

really wow

well i think there is another one i cant remeber the name

worse case is you will have to do it yourself

just mimic what they do

[chrome copper]

ok

i guess i could make a hidden folder with everything needed. then have it so there a script which opens the game

[dawn quiver]

yep

id look into python enviorments too

[chrome copper]

ill just have to make sure either python is installed in the folder or just tell people to install python

[chrome copper]

why?

[dawn quiver]

so that once you install a module it will install it locally

instead of you having to find the module and copy it over

im not sure

just a guess

[chrome copper]

well i use pycharm and i code using a virtual environment

[dawn quiver]

cool

[dawn quiver]

im learning git so i can work on a project with some python beginners

gonna try and teach them git

[chrome copper]

that cool have fun

[dawn quiver]

is your game on github, id like to take a look.

[chrome copper]

no isnt yet

should prob be a week or two before I have i have alpha 1

[dawn quiver]

Cool im interested in helping

[chrome copper]

it a bit of a solo thing sadly. has it part of something bigger i have planned and it just 1 key to a lock

but anyways it is based of my old 2019 game

but with better python skill can 100% make it so it works

if my language skill doesnt ruin me

[dawn quiver]

Using pygame?

[round obsidian]

For those interested in a Conway's Game Of Life implementation in Python with graphics and Cython acceleration, I just updated the repo: https://github.com/syegulalp/conway-2022

[chrome copper]

nope due to it just being a text game which is mainly using input

and i simple saving system

with variables like health, mana, etc

though i should prob look into pygame

[dawn quiver]

Try using another browser duckduckgo.com is the best browser service to open stuff you can't on google :)

[sinful lodge]

more mapping done

[sick eagle]

hey i am doing big project in a server with some other people to help improve our skill. we are making a cool terreria sorta game just for fun to expand our horizons and learn new skills! if you would like to try to learn stuff like that or you just need help with your own thing, dm me! 😄

[pseudo rivet]

@sick eagle what framework/software do you use

[sick eagle]

pygame

using either pycharm or visual code

i prefer visual code

[flat aurora]

Not sure where you’re seeing this. Pyinstaller supports anything 3.6+. I think current versions don’t have 2.X support at all.

I can’t speak to using it with Pygame, but I’ve personally used it with Arcade on 3.10 and it works fine.

[rocky elbow]

OK thanks man

[glossy wren]

thanks!

[deft nexus]

@radiant sage with pgzero nope. But with pygame u can use pyinstaller. Or better. Atuo-py-to-exe. I use it and I pack all files into one exe.

Auto*

@radiant sage and you have to deal with it. Pygame forces you to refactor and optimize your code. And i believe that for 2D games it is more than sufficient.

@chrome copper I am using python 3.8.8 and auto-py-to-exe don't have any problems with it. And it is a gui which runs script with pyinstaller..

[next estuary]

Spooky game I'm making :)

[sinful lodge]

"visual code" lmfao

[dawn quiver]

Damn bro looks amazing, I don't really specialise in that type of stuff but I might start taking interest it looks really interesting :)

[sick eagle]

i cant spell

[sick eagle]

bro how can u make that

so good

[sick eagle]

canya show me this auto py thing, pyinstaller never works for me

[deft nexus]

@sick eagle https://youtu.be/GFadq39XJqY
I learned it via this tutorial.

[weary haven]

i have a problem with top down collisions every time my object collides from the left or right stops ok so far we are good but if i press the w to go up it just teleports to the bottom any suggestions ?

[sick eagle]

can someone help me with this

when i open the exe it says this

[sick eagle]

what is the code

[weary haven]

i fixed it (i think )

def h_m_c(self):
player = self.player.sprite
player.rect.x += player.direction.x * player.speed_x
for sprite in self.tiles.sprites():
if sprite.rect.colliderect(player.rect):
if player.direction.x < 0:
player.rect.left = sprite.rect.right
elif player.direction.x > 0:
player.rect.right = sprite.rect.left

def v_m_c(self):
    player = self.player.sprite
    player.rect.y += player.direction.y * player.speed_y
    for sprite in self.tiles.sprites():
        if sprite.rect.colliderect(player.rect):
            if player.direction.y < 0:
                player.rect.top = sprite.rect.bottom
            elif player.direction.y > 0:
                player.rect.bottom = sprite.rect.top

[sick eagle]

hm idk

[next estuary]

I made trees for my game

[dawn quiver]

is that python

[potent ice]

Whatever your imagination can hold? 🙂

[dawn quiver]

?

[hasty parcel]

why is pygame not opening files when i have the exact directory and it worked 10 sec ago but now it does not

[next estuary]

Yeah it's Ursina and a lot of math

[dawn quiver]

I don't know in which channel I can post this but as it's based on pygame, I'll post there.
So I'm currently in a project at my own called SHooK (SynnK Hook), it's a "Toolbox" of windows components (such as buttons, text renders, input boxes and in future, many more) but using vanilla pygame.
That's what I did so far!

I'm posting it here because I don't have anyone to tell this.
This project was supposed to innovate PyGame application creation with different components which you cannot access with pure PyGame.

# output of the next image
>>> 'button will print this text'

So if you want to help me to continue this project, please check out my github!
https://github.com/storm772
Source Code of this GUI, Input Box / Button components on my GitHub

[hasty parcel]

Cool your're using pygame me as well

[dawn quiver]

yep i am

[hasty parcel]

But one question em for input boxes and buttons I think Tkinter is better but you can use pygame if it is easier

[dawn quiver]

Those components are used for games in PyGame, e.g: You have a game that when it starts the game wants you to input your username, but you can't do it with normal pygame, so you could use SHooK Input-Box for that

[hasty parcel]

Ohhhh that makes more sense

[dawn quiver]

Tkinter is 100% better than PyGame in question of GUI components, of course. But Tkinter is not designed for games

[hasty parcel]

Ye

I made a cps counter in tkinter but now learning pygame to make space invaders

and snake and tetris and all that lot

[dawn quiver]

oh wow you already got centered text

[dawn quiver]

hmm ill see what i can do to help

[dawn quiver]

@dawn quiver you there?

[sinful lodge]

hmm i should make some prefabs for pygame

like an inputbox and all that

[dawn quiver]

I just cloned @dawn quiver repo. Made a button class that centers text and uses a callback when pressed. Wannna see?

[sinful lodge]

sure

[dawn quiver]

!paste

[frank field]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[dawn quiver]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/izazenujab

Let me know what you think 😄

[wind basalt]

guys! I got a golden idea!

what if we make a game engine with pygame!?

[civic oyster]

You could,

[wind basalt]

but I'm too dumb

[dawn quiver]

sure

i made a lil gui button just now

[wind basalt]

cool

what if we make a game together?

just tell me the title, let's work together

[dawn quiver]

i gotta sleep soon. What is your timezone? Its 1:29 am for me

id be interested in making a terraira clone

[wind basalt]

3.02 PM for me

I'm from Sri Lanka

[wind basalt]

sounds great

[dawn quiver]

you know how to work with git?

[wind basalt]

no 😦

are you new to pygame>

[dawn quiver]

lol im kinda new to it

i like to teach people

but ill try to let you do your own thing too

have you made anything in pygame?

[dawn quiver]

alright well cya im off to bed

[wind basalt]

yeah, but I have abondoned all of them

[dawn quiver]

kla

[compact raptor]

lmao

[shadow stirrup]

very nice

I would like to do game development

not sure if I should start c# tho

[next estuary]

Try ursina if you don't want to learn something new

[dawn quiver]

Thats all right. I have alot of abandon projects too. I still pick up a few things though.

[dawn quiver]

you there?

[dawn quiver]

poo

[hasty parcel]

poo what?

[dawn quiver]

i want to talk with some people but they are not on discord right now

[hasty parcel]

Hmmm ok

[plucky saffron]

thanks will keep that in mind as another option, trying to implement webpack and npm atm

[sinful lodge]

some updates to map editor

1. you can now clear the map
2. you can rotate direction blocks
3. the block outline becomes red if the block is in an illegal position

[crisp junco]

did you make it in ursina?

looks cool

seems like no one uses pygame these days 😔

ursina is the talk of the town

[sinful lodge]

yup

[sinful lodge]

nah thats still more popular

ursina isnt that widely known

[crisp junco]

oh

been months since I last used pygame

[dawn quiver]

Im using pygame.

But i mostly use it to teach beginners and make projects with them.

[sick eagle]

!paste

[round obsidian]

For those interested in how a Conway's Game Of Life implementation would work with Cython-accelerated performance, I've updated my repo
https://github.com/syegulalp/conway-2022

[grand whale]

Lol

[wind basalt]

I use pygame

I'm trying to make a game engine

but i need help

somebody tell me how to do this automatic code generation thing

[round obsidian]

@wind basalt that's not really something that can be conveyed in a message or two

[grand whale]

?

can you elabrote?

[steady cairn]

yo

I'm new to python

[scenic wyvern]

This is the wrong channel, if you want help ask in #python-discussion

[steady cairn]

ok thanks for details

[sullen wagon]

!warn 809865354603397141 do not post chainmail in this server

[frank field]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @deep yew.

[frigid pewter]

Hey!, can someone help me with a tkinter project in python?

Hey!, can someone help me with a tkinter project in python?

!warn 809865354603397141 Hello!

[rare basalt]

what

is

the

best

way

to

become

better in coding

[normal silo]

Code / make a specific project / don't make coding the end goal.

[sinful lodge]

what happened to this channel in the last 5 hours lol

[sinful lodge]

are you talking to me?

[dawn quiver]

ah sorry

[sinful lodge]

yeah

maybe wrong reply lol

[dawn quiver]

once you have learned the basic of a language ie variables, control flow, functions, data structures, classes, variable scope then start to learn programming concepts and modules. Like how do i open a file? How do i read a file line by line and store it in a dictionary? How do i read a file that stores an array of map data. How do i store that data?
Id recomend making hangman. Its a simple game that can be played entirely in your terminal / CommandPrompt

[dawn quiver]

you all are blue so kinda hard to tell

[sinful lodge]

lmao

[cold storm]

Hello all

How goes py game dev?

(tag me if it takes a while to get back to me)

I have been having lots of fun, implimented A* by redblob vs evaluated blender mesh and made a bunch of geonodes stuff

[thin marsh]

Hey everyone, looking to dive back into game dev after a one year hiatus. Any new python libraries/engines that might be suitable for 3d multiplayer game dev before I sell my soul to a large engine?

[dawn quiver]

ursina

or pandas3d

[dawn quiver]

mind taking a look at this repo. im trying to teach some beginners python pygame and git.

https://github.com/Vaxeral/Bored

[thin marsh]

panda3d last time I checked was very very undocumented

ursina I was actually looking into right when you mentioned it!

ursina lookin pretty fly not gonna lie

anything to avoid selling my soul to unity3d

is really

[normal silo]

Panda3D docs worked for me, although I am not new to game development.

[thin marsh]

damn, guess I just had a bad time

[normal silo]

Ursina is Panda3D with some simplifications / work done for you.

[thin marsh]

I barely made a rotating panda and moved on lol

im a web dev by trade

I did however see Toontown lol

[normal silo]

Panda3D's docs kind of assume you know in general the pattern of how most game engines work.

They all follow a similar design like React vs all its competitors.

[thin marsh]

ahh, that explains my confusion then

[normal silo]

Imagine learning Vue without knowing React first. Or the other way around. Clearly if you know in general how it goes it will be much easier.

[thin marsh]

I didn't have my basics down

[normal silo]

One thing though is that games are very very complex in that they can contain anything in them, including an entire web browser in some cases.

So there is a bottemless bucket of individual ideas / features. So for basics it's more about knowing the system that ties it all together (e.g. Entity/GameObject/Scene systems).

And ofc, they all have rendering in common, so graphics programming knowledge is universal too.

Things like that.

[normal silo]

I would recommend Ursina over Panda3D for beginners though. And since Ursina is technically Panda3D you can learn parts of Panda3D bit by bit and mix it with Ursina / go lower level.

[dawn quiver]

Hey guys

I made my first game with pygame

I want to convert it into an exe file so that I can share it with my friend

But I don't know how to do that

?

[vernal copper]

I think you should look into cx_freeze

I'm a pixel artist and I have a show at a gallery coming up. I had this idea to make a small game and set it up on a projector almost like a slideshow for people to flip through. I'm envisioning a simple 2D platformer where each room is one of the art pieces. Given that I'm kinda OK with python, what's the fastest way I can make this?

[main brook]

You can use ursina for 3d graphics

[mighty plank]

haw haw

i was just wondering where the x and y coordinates are in a square in pygame

is the x left?

or center

is y top or center

[midnight escarp]

i'm 95% sure it's at the top left

[mighty plank]

top left okie

yall have pygame code to detect collision of objects

[dawn quiver]

I have heard about pyinstaller will that work with pygame code file, graphics, font, and audio

[dawn quiver]

Sure will look about that

[agile thorn]

!code

[frank field]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[mighty plank]

help pls

[flat aurora]

Pyinstaller is definitely what you want

You can bundle it all into a self extracting EXE file or you can create the executable and ship the static files alongside it. The bundled EXE will have a slower startup but for a majority of projects it’s probably negligible

[hardy hollow]

How do I install pyGame?

[rare basalt]

go to your cmd on windows or terminal in linux and type "pip install pygame" or "pip3 install pygame" respectively

[hardy hollow]

I remember watching a video saying I need pip, but I don

Don't have it

[rare basalt]

what OS are you using?

[hardy hollow]

Win10

Is that what you mean?

[rare basalt]

try to reinstall the python interpreter

[rare basalt]

yea

[hardy hollow]

Ok

[hardy hollow]

How do I do that? Sorry I'm new to Python.

[rare basalt]

go to python.org and download the latest python interpreter

https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.10.2/python-3.10.2-amd64.exe

[sharp escarp]

I've been told that Python is not the best programming language for making a game. Assuming that the desired target was a 2D game that uses many different 2D sprites and stores a lot of variables in the form of "statuses", would Python be an acceptable programming language, or would it be better to consider a different programming language?

[round obsidian]

how many objects are you dealing with? I've written Python games that had hundreds of objects onscreen and that didn't tax even a fairly low-end machine by much

@sharp escarp Also note you can use C to speed up crucial aspects of game performance if needed

[sharp escarp]

Do you mean using both C and another language such as Python at the same time?

[round obsidian]

@sharp escarp Python is itself built atop C, and allows you to integrate C code into Python.

[sharp escarp]

oh right

[round obsidian]

Here's a game I wrote that does that https://xtaloid.itch.io/xtaloid

[sharp escarp]

let's say that there are about 400 different "states" that a character can have, though a character is only going to have about 5 to 10 applied at the same time in most circumstances. There are about 60 or possibly more characters that may need to be present at the same time.

[round obsidian]

60 objects is nothing

if by "states" you mean things like choices from a sprite sheet, that's not going to affect performance much either.

[sharp escarp]

The states don't have unique sprites or anything it's just background states that adjust character stats or capabilities

[round obsidian]

That should all be fine, although you do want to get live measurements of performance

(profiling)

[sharp escarp]

Okay. Thank you for the insight.

[round obsidian]

Glad to help

[dawn quiver]

Hello can anyone help me make a .py file .exe? My command prompt thing with the pip install uses different commands and im confused.

for example

[lean cosmos]

The start of my new project!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koTpjviqhWM

[dawn quiver]

Really cool

I thnk i want to work on something similar to terraria or starbound

[dawn quiver]

!paste

[frank field]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[lean cosmos]

@dawn quiver well if you need help just dm me😁

[dawn quiver]

Will surely try a hand

[dawn quiver]

Is your project available via github?

[lean cosmos]

No not as of right now but when the project get more complete I will release version of it

But I’m hoping to release the game as a game of itch or steam

[dawn quiver]

ah then maybe a private repo if you plan to sell it. Or even just a local repo using git would be good.

[lean cosmos]

I don’t plan on selling it but maybe or dlc for it but that’s way in the future for now all the servers for online will be hosted by me 😁

[dawn quiver]

git is basically history to revert on for your project. It also allows you to collaborate. I wonder if you can use git in conjunction with your own server.

[lean cosmos]

Not a bad idea tbh

I would not mind collabing will people

It’s going to be a big project

[dawn quiver]

why not host it on github then?

hmm its alright

anyways im gonna work on my terraria clone. Im tired of helping python beginners

[lean cosmos]

Heck yea what all you got done

[dawn quiver]

just pygame boilerplate

and scenes

[lean cosmos]

Have any screen shots

[dawn quiver]

nope not yet

[dawn quiver]

https://github.com/Vaxeral/Bored/blob/master/bored/scene.py This is how im going to handle menus and pause menus and scenes similar to unity

also fade in and fade out transitions and maybe other stuff

instead of swapping the scenes which might be expensive i could just have an index that keeps track of where the current scene is but then id lose the ability for scenes to render together for fades and stuff

and pause menus that partially show the game

or just simply assign the currect scene to the scene found with the appropiate name

since they are references

im gonna make something to show

[lean cosmos]

I might you this in my project is you don’t mind well the idea of doing it that way

[dawn quiver]

sorry i didnt understand what you are trying to say.

You might use my code? Thats fine

[thin marsh]

So one thing I'm wanting to know, and I'm having trouble looking up, is how should I format my game code in projects? currently using Ursina. I'm familiar with MVC with web dev, but don't really want to accidentally make spaghetti code. If you have any advice, or guides for me, I would love that.

[dawn quiver]

it has some bugs in it as of now. Im updating it regularly

[lean cosmos]

Sorry I was doing something will texting I meant Is I okay if I use your way of dealing with scenes

[dawn quiver]

sure lemme push to github. You can use the code if you like. And i dont mind helping you understand it

[lean cosmos]

I think I understand it idk how your like setting the scenes up but I think I can figure it out

Now is each on of these scenes a separate pygame screen

[dawn quiver]

No its not a seperate pygame screen. they are just containers for data and have callback functions that the Game class calls.

i have one main loop that is ran. In the game class there is a method called run which runs its update and render functions

these call into the current scenes update and render functions

At the bottom of scene.py there is a quick example scene that im using currently. When the scene gets added or made current it executes the scene init function.

then in the main loop the current scenes update and render functions are called

This is sort of an complictaed concept so dont feel bad if you dont quite get it

but id look over the code and try to understand it

hmm its broken as of now

for some reason the window is not resizing even though i pass in the resizable flag

[lean cosmos]

I got you well later I’m going to write this well something like this into my engine I have and see what it does

[dawn quiver]

Do you know how you would do a scrolling or parallax background like terraria has?

[lean cosmos]

Yep let me get home to my computer real quick and I go over it with you if you don’t mind

[hasty rover]

This is what I made at my coding camp.

[lean cosmos]

That pretty cool dude

[hasty rover]

thanks

[dawn quiver]

Ursina?

phew made a lot of commits to my repo

[hasty rover]

yes i did use Ursina

[dawn quiver]

nice 3D can be hard to start with if you dont know the math. Ursina made it easier but to make something else might be more involved. So i might try out pygame to make 2d games

[plucky mural]

hello you can made minecraft using ursina engine

[hasty rover]

yes

[dawn quiver]

Sure just DM when ready. I might not be on in 30 mins though

[mighty plank]

help please

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/esorawivol

trying to use this as a wall collider

[sinful lodge]

not again... why does everyone want to make minecraft with ursina? yes it's possible, but it's not that simple to implement terrain generation, cave generation, ore generation etc. also you'd have to come up with a way to chunk up blocks and come up with alot of performance optimizations.

it's not easy

[sinful lodge]

i saw the exact same thing on youtube

pretty sure you got ripped off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHSRaVeQxIk&t=35s

found it

[mighty plank]

do you know how to do wall collision

[sinful lodge]

rect collide probably

[mighty plank]

ye

but htat just checks if your colliding wih soimethin

not what direction

[dawn quiver]

wow really cool! you made Ursina didnt you?

[tranquil girder]

yup

[dawn quiver]

I made a lil thing showcasing my SceneManager and UI wanna see?

https://github.com/Vaxeral/Bored

[lean cosmos]

Making good progress!

[dawn quiver]

Cool.

[scenic dome]

I am a bit of a noob with game engines, but I use Panda3D and the performance isn't that great for high-poly meshes. How can I get down and dirty with the GPU (tessalation, instaincing, GLSL, etc) in Panda3D?

[dawn quiver]

Is there a way to tell python to stop keeping track of some memory?

I know that python keeps references to the objects and if all objects are not set to None there will still be memory not freed

id like to load and unload stuff from memory in python

[olive parcel]

There might be something specific about your mesh that makes it render slowly, normally high-poly meshes are passed through as-is by Panda directly to the graphics hardware, so they should render as fast as they should go

There are some examples on the use of tessellation shaders here, I believe https://github.com/Schwarzbaer/panda_examples/tree/master/shaders/all_stages

Normally the biggest cause of performance issues isn't the number of polygons, but the number of geometry batches (individual Geom objects in Panda)

You can also look at normal mapping for creating the illusion of detail under the effect of lighting, you can "bake" the high detail into a normal map that is applied to a low detail version of the model

[rain dome]

How do fix this?