game-development

[turbid cargo]

hi

[summer furnace]

PyInstaller can't build a 'Firebase Firestore python file'
Did anyone know how to fix it?

[frozen knoll]

@dawn quiver I'm not sure about 2.0 Pygame, but using an OpenGL backed library (Pyglet, Arcade, etc), you can change the viewport to do exactly what you are looking for.

[dawn quiver]

Howdy, I need a way to make 1 part of the script wait but allow the rest to run without being affected, but I dunno how, can I get help?

[twin sparrow]

@dawn quiver did u do my suggestion?

i personally use it and it works fine

you can do this:

before you write your main window command write:

monitorx, monitory = pygame.display.Info.current_w, pygame.display.Info.current_y

this will return the monitor's width and height

then you can initialize your display and pass monitorx and monitory as it's arguments

you can have another pygame surface

for example surface

and have it a fixed res

like 1080*920

and then blit all your images and draw all your rects and stuf on that

i mean pass it as the surface to the pygame.draw s

then before you update the screen you can write this code:

window.blit(pygame.transform.scale(surface, (window.get_width, window.get_height)), (0,0))

you can also make your window resizable with this method

so whenever the VIDEORESIZE events occurs, you can change the window dimensions using event.w and event.h

i hope this makes sense lol 😄

[spring flint]

import sys, pygame
pygame.init()

size = width, height = 320, 240
speed = [2, 2]
black = 0, 0, 0

screen = pygame.display.set_mode(size)

ball = pygame.image.load("intro_ball.gif")
ballrect = ball.get_rect()

while 1:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT: sys.exit()

    ballrect = ballrect.move(speed)
    if ballrect.left < 0 or ballrect.right > width:
        speed[0] = -speed[0]
    if ballrect.top < 0 or ballrect.bottom > height:
        speed[1] = -speed[1]

    screen.fill(black)
    screen.blit(ball, ballrect)
    pygame.display.flip()

I get the error couldn't open intro_ball.gif

where does my .gif file have to be in so I dont get this error

[limpid gyro]

@dawn quiver sorry it wasn’t you

lucky position problem is the famous problem in stackoverflow @robust palm
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41516904/making-window-in-pygame-using-noframe-but-cant-choose-where-it-appears

[robust palm]

Ah, I've tried that already. It doesn't work. Thanks for looking into it 🙂

[hallow burrow]

not sure if someone else has told you i think your problem is its not in the same folder as the script

[spring flint]

ok ty

[hearty trench]

@spring flint Type the full source of the file. For example:

ball = pygame.image.load("E:/U1/Coding/Just another python game/intro_ball.gif")

[hallow burrow]

are you sure? i think in pygame you just type the name of the .png or .gif

[hearty trench]

I am pretty sure. I've had the same issue multiple times.

Its the most common issue in pygame

[hallow burrow]

because last time i used pygame i just put the picture in the same file and used the name of it

[hearty trench]

yes. If the image is in the same folder as the script then no problem

But keeping all your associated files in the same folder is tedious and messy.

[hallow burrow]

what? compared to having them scattered in your pc?

i prefer them all in the same folder

[limpid gyro]

wot

skiing game using pygame

how

oh i get it

[limpid gyro]

i use os module to set the assets system

it's clearer

[dawn quiver]

Thnx dude
it worked !!!!!
🥳

[twin sparrow]

good 😄

[crisp junco]

😂

I can't control my laughter

[crisp junco]

me too

[covert sentinel]

hi

i am using pygame module

making the goblin game

i am a beginner

DeprecationWarning: an integer is required (got type float). Implicit conversion to integers using int is deprecated, and may be removed in a future version of Python.
win.blit(walkLeft[self.walkCount // 3], (self.x, self.y))

it shows this

can someone pls help

[limpid gyro]

@covert sentinel well

seriously, does your file stops working

@robust palm

are you using Panda3D ?

[random pagoda]

Well this is a DeprecationWarning, so I wouldn't be worried

[limpid gyro]

exactly'

[random pagoda]

DeprecationWarnings are just warnings that tell you that a function/class/property is going to be removed in the next release

[limpid gyro]

function ?

thought it was the problem of a division getting a float as result

does anyone uses panda3d here

?

[random pagoda]

DeprecationWarning: an integer is required (got type float).  Implicit conversion to integers using int is deprecated, and may be removed in a future version of Python.

[covert sentinel]

hmm

i was doing this goblin game

when i wrote this some of the code

the charcter started to disappear

when it started

when i clicked the left or right arrow buttow then it apperared

after it when i pressed up key for jum

it again dissappeared

i thot this was the cause

so can you helpme in this case

@limpid gyro

i use

pycharm

[limpid gyro]

@covert sentinel code

how many lines of code btw ?

[covert sentinel]

more than 100

@limpid gyro

[limpid gyro]

oh

k

[covert sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVY46hUp2EM&list=PLzMcBGfZo4-lp3jAExUCewBfMx3UZFkh5&index=5

this video

btw

@limpid gyro

[limpid gyro]

ah l

k

Oh

it's the goblin shooter thing

[covert sentinel]

ye

[limpid gyro]

dang i watched it 2 years ago

[covert sentinel]

begginer bro

[limpid gyro]

so

!paste'

[frank field]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
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[limpid gyro]

click on that blue link

and

when u get there

copy paste ur code to that page

and then

save it

and then take its url

and send it here

[covert sentinel]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/nufuholiru.lua

[limpid gyro]

k

[covert sentinel]

i have deleted

[limpid gyro]

oh yeah

[covert sentinel]

the wrong part

[limpid gyro]

?

[covert sentinel]

so help me with the code

in that vid

5

[limpid gyro]

100 is not alot

[limpid gyro]

?

wdym

[covert sentinel]

the one

i have sent oabove

[limpid gyro]

yes

the link

?

@covert sentinel

[covert sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVY46hUp2EM&list=PLzMcBGfZo4-lp3jAExUCewBfMx3UZFkh5&index=5

this link

[limpid gyro]

yes

what does it has

i dont getit

@covert sentinel

[covert sentinel]

which part

?

[limpid gyro]

wdym which part

look

is this code full or it's missing something

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/nufuholiru.lua

is this the full code

[covert sentinel]

no id thinks so

[limpid gyro]

argh

[dawn quiver]

oui

[limpid gyro]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/nufuholiru.lua

is this ur code'

[covert sentinel]

yes

[limpid gyro]

like did u write it by urself'

k

and its full right ?

everything is there

[covert sentinel]

i cpied from

[limpid gyro]

ok

[covert sentinel]

\the tutorials

[limpid gyro]

oh ok

[covert sentinel]

just made the jumping part

on my own

[limpid gyro]

so now, the character is disappaearing

from ur window

but it doesnt disappears in tim's window right ?

[covert sentinel]

yes

[limpid gyro]

k

does it dissappear only when jumping ?

[covert sentinel]

it also dissapears

when i start

the code

i have delted the code

vid 5

inn the link i have sent

[limpid gyro]

can i modify the code and send it to you

[covert sentinel]

yes

sure

dm me plwsss

not here

[limpid gyro]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/oqibuvuzot.lua

can u try this

now

[covert sentinel]

wait

[limpid gyro]

yaah ?

Is aNyOnE good WiTH PanDa3d

@olive parcel

im having problems with Panda3D can u help me out

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro what is your question?

[limpid gyro]

so

[olive parcel]

Note you can also go to the Panda3D server for help, there are more Panda3D users there

[limpid gyro]

whenever i import a 3d file to panda3d

it has 0 colors

like its white

[olive parcel]

You need to apply a light for materials to show up

[limpid gyro]

( ik it's a problem u encountered 100 times with users, but i understand that problems vary

)

[limpid gyro]

well if i use blender

[olive parcel]

What exporter did you use?

[limpid gyro]

there always was a light in blender files

blend files

wait can i install blender again

[olive parcel]

How are you loading it in Panda?

[limpid gyro]

cuz i deleted it

[olive parcel]

Did you use blend2bam?

[limpid gyro]

rdb i'll be messaging you soon

ig yeah

cuz i used panda3d a month ago

@olive parcel well im gonna

simply use a cube

made in blender

and ill be choosing a color

green for example

@olive parcel are u here ?

im ready to be helped

[olive parcel]

Occasionally

[limpid gyro]

ok so

ive took the code from your documentation

https://docs.panda3d.org/1.10/python/introduction/tutorial/loading-and-animating-the-panda-model

this page

and ive created a blend file

now how do i bring it to the script ?

[olive parcel]

You need to install blend2bam or something like that to convert the blend file to a bam file first

[limpid gyro]

ive already got it

in the site-packages

bam not egg ?

[olive parcel]

You can use various formats, I recommend using blend2bam and bam format for getting stuff from blender

[limpid gyro]

ill follow ur indications sir

[olive parcel]

Okay, you need to go to the command prompt, use cd to change into the folder where the blend file is located, and type blend2bam file.blend file.bam (replace file with name of the blend file)

Please don't call me "sir"

[limpid gyro]

oh ok

i need to install blend2bam

thought i had it

[olive parcel]

You can also type python -m blend2bam file.blend file.bam if you don't have the Python Scripts folder on your system PATH

[limpid gyro]

well where do i need to get it from

[olive parcel]

pip install panda3d-blend2bam

[limpid gyro]

oh ok

thanks

it's downloading

done so

a folder got installed in my packages

called blend2bam

now what do i need to do

@olive parcel

well

@olive parcel it's looking for blender's directory

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro do you have Blender 2.90 installed?

Or some similar version

[limpid gyro]

no

2.79

[olive parcel]

Oh

If you want to use such an old version of Blender, you have to use a different exporter, such as YABEE

[limpid gyro]

oh ok

[limpid gyro]

and how to use yabee

like how to install, use ...

@olive parcel

[olive parcel]

Sorry, I'm having lunch

[limpid gyro]

oh sorry then

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro https://github.com/09th/YABEE

[limpid gyro]

alright

thanks

[olive parcel]

Download as zip, add to Blender via User Preferences

Then activate it in User Preferences

[limpid gyro]

ok

ok

and then

[olive parcel]

Then egg export option should show up in the export options

[limpid gyro]

alright

thanks

[olive parcel]

Select all objects, export to egg, then load the egg model in panda3d

[limpid gyro]

ok

[olive parcel]

It won't export lights so you still have to add the lights on the panda3d end

[limpid gyro]

how to do that ?

@olive parcel

[vagrant oriole]

Help me

[limpid gyro]

if i clearly understand, if i import it, i will have a white node

[vagrant oriole]

** i need Help ' so i'am Saoud iam programmer python , html - css - js ' , But iwent crat a game Flash how Please help . . . ?--**

[limpid gyro]

do you know the lighting material called "Sun" in blender ? @olive parcel

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro it's in the manual how to create lights

And the sample programs

@limpid gyro I'm going out for a while, but you can generally find people to help in https://discord.gg/9XsucTT

[vagrant oriole]

Aa

[hearty trench]

Yeah. That's just default a lighting object

[limpid gyro]

yes but my real questions was " is there any lighting in panda3d that looks like the Sun lighting ? " @hearty trench

[dawn quiver]

Hello!

[limpid gyro]

@olive parcel

im having some trouble

can i get help ?

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro state your question

[limpid gyro]

well

from math import pi, sin, cos

from direct.showbase.ShowBase import ShowBase
from direct.task import Task
from direct.actor.Actor import Actor
from panda3d.core import *


class MyApp(ShowBase):
    def __init__(self):
        ShowBase.__init__(self)

        self.scene = self.loader.loadModel("models/environment")
        self.scene.reparentTo(self.render)
        self.scene.setScale(0.25, 0.25, 0.25)
        self.scene.setPos(-8, 42, 0)

        self.pandaActor = self.loader.loadModel("/d/Coding/Python/test3D/test3D.egg")
        self.pandaActor.setScale(0.005, 0.005, 0.005)
        self.pandaActor.reparentTo(self.render)

        ambientLight = AmbientLight('ambientLight')
        ambientLight.setColor((0.1, 0.1, 0.1, 1))
        ambientLightNP = self.pandaActor.attachNewNode(ambientLight)
        self.pandaActor.setLight(ambientLightNP)



app = MyApp()
app.run()

here's my code so far

and

my cube isn't showing

@olive parcel

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro you are assigning a very small scale to it, that may be the problem

[limpid gyro]

oh

[olive parcel]

Usually the problem is that the camera isn't looking at it, zooming or panning the camera may also help

[limpid gyro]

welp

something has been better

now lighting

problem

@olive parcel

[olive parcel]

The light is very dim, only 0.1. I recommend adding a DirectionalLight to emulate sunlight.

[limpid gyro]

can u send me the required lines of code

[olive parcel]

I'm on my phone right now, so no, but you should be able to figure it out from the manual or samples

[limpid gyro]

oh ok

well

why

whenever i change the rgba values in this line :

ambientLight.setColor((0.1, 0.1, 0.1, 1))

the color of the cube changes

but it just varies from white to black

@olive parcel

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro what color is the cube in Blender?

AmbientLight gives the color a uniform color, you probably want to add a DirectionalLight to emulate sunlight

[limpid gyro]

green

[limpid gyro]

btw im reading a tutorial about it

this

[timid mica]

I am making a survey on games. I have made a form for survey. People who haven't fill it up yet please fill up it 👇
https://forms.gle/zfwUk9BXKV4zorsU9

[limpid gyro]

@olive parcel

GOSH

YOU ARE DEFINITELY INSANE

[olive parcel]

What

[limpid gyro]

it fixed the colors

thanks

also

[olive parcel]

👍

[limpid gyro]

a question

for that light

do i need to place it high in the sky ?

like at the top of the scene ?

@olive parcel

[olive parcel]

For a DirectionalLight it doesn't matter where you place it, unless you enable shadows

[limpid gyro]

alright

so i just need to tilt it

and make it look to the bottom

[olive parcel]

Because of the way the light works, only the dircetion matters, because it affects every object from the same direction (as though the light source were infinitely far away)

Yep

[limpid gyro]

cool

very cool

im actually making a game that has vehicles @olive parcel

which u can drive freely

but

the freedrive's space will be containing the actual space too

so ill have to add spaceships

@olive parcel also does the DirectionalLight works with textures too ?

because the green color used in the blend file was a material

[olive parcel]

Yep it does

[limpid gyro]

alright this is cool

[limpid gyro]

@olive parcel

insane ,textures are imported 100%

[olive parcel]

Neat 🙂

[limpid gyro]

this looks like a monolith

@olive parcel

• somehow *

[olive parcel]

It could be 🙂

[limpid gyro]

it could be indeed

[proper coral]

thats a lot of rdb pings 😄

[olive parcel]

Yup, never been more popular 😆

[umbral hearth]

Where can I find a demo code for a delta time loop process? without modules such as 'arcade': just plain python ( time/etc module)

the thing that's called delta_time in python arcade, ie: def on_update(self, delta_time):

[limpid gyro]

you're more popular than that tbh

u were the only guy i was seeing in panda3d forums

[umbral hearth]

something like this will do, or can be done more efficiently?

delta=time()
while True:
    sleep(0.1)
    t = time()
    delta=t-delta
    print("ms:",delta*1000)
    #tail
    delta=t

[quiet pumice]

Hi I'm new to pygame and I made this pixel art character and... I probably made him too short

The resolution was 32 x 32

but its too short

[snow hill]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQaRSuPajXnI49JUq1ZtbDg/videos?view_as=subscriber 😇

[limpid gyro]

just resize it using Paint

[white ember]

maybe an event scheduler?

[umbral hearth]

@white ember it would be more efficient/safe?

[white ember]

i think it would be more efficient than making all calculations in while loop

you could also make while loop in another thread

[waxen nebula]

Does anyone know where I can download harfang 3D I cant find a place to give me the actual download

[tranquil girder]

On their website

You have to click on the download symbol

[waxen nebula]

I don’t get a download launcher tho just some sketch file that does nothing

[smoky zinc]

Anyone know of any python libraries for 2d rendering on the fly? Something to help me visualize these coordinates in real time as I receive them

[loud night]

Is it possible make collide (collisions) in OpenGL? I can't find any tutorials collisions but only OpenGL.

[olive parcel]

@loud night OpenGL doesn't handle collisions, you'll need to use a separate library, like pymunk or pybox2d or something else

[loud night]

Thank you anyway! 🙂

Let me try other

[dawn quiver]

does anyone know how to make an arrow move left or right using the arrow keys?

im at aluminum

[snow hill]

@dawn quiver it depends if you want to do it in 2D, 3D, in a GUI or in text mode even

But it should start with a while

And it should include a couple of if to test the keyboard input

But first you need to choose what module will do the input and what module will do the display

For that you need to be familiar with PIP (pip install, and so on)

[dense creek]

I can help you, I know pyglet with OpenGL (learning)

[dawn quiver]

i am getting a module error in spyder(anaconda-3)how to fix it????

[snow hill]

@dawn quiver please post the complete error message, otherwise no one will be able to help 😃

[covert sentinel]

!paste

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[limpid gyro]

@olive parcel are u available

[olive parcel]

I'm at work, if you have a question about Panda3D just drop it into the Panda3D Discord #general

[limpid gyro]

ah sorry

[main blade]

anyone, who can hook me up with pygame docs or something?

ping me

thank you 🙂

[fervent rose]

There! https://www.pygame.org/docs/

[main blade]

thanks 🙂

welp

@fervent rose

[fervent rose]

Hmm, it seems to be down

[main blade]

F

btw

we can only make 2D games?

or 3D also

anyways, is it good for beginners? who are just starting out with these things?

[proper coral]

2D I guess

[fervent rose]

I’d recommend you to get started with arcade for 2D game

[proper coral]

Yes

[main blade]

what is that?

[fervent rose]

You can use Pandas3D for 3D games

[main blade]

can u give docs or something?

[fervent rose]

https://learn.arcade.academy iirc

[proper coral]

Yea

[main blade]

oh ok

thanks 🙂

and Panda3D is also advanced?

[fervent rose]

Yeah, it is pretty advanced, you should get confortable writing Python code first in my opinion

[main blade]

oh ok thanks 🙂

[limpid gyro]

@main blade @fervent rose Panda3D*

[main blade]

oh yea

there

🙂

[fervent rose]

Oh, thanks for the correction

[main blade]

lol

[limpid gyro]

np

[umbral hearth]

I am using these two approach to make a gameloop: scheduler and while+sleep. This is with scheduler:

from time import time, sleep
from sched import scheduler
def daemon(local_handler,old_t):
    t=time()
    delta=t-old_t
    print(delta)
    local_handler.enter(0.0008, 1, daemon, (local_handler,t))

handler = scheduler(time, sleep)
handler.enter(0.0008, 1, daemon, (handler,time()))
handler.run()```


this is while+sleep
```Python
from time import time, sleep
delta=time()
while True:
    sleep(0.0008)
    t = time()
    delta=t-delta
    print(delta)
    delta=t

While+sleep is slightly more faster, so I was wondering if I should stick with while loop or maybe I am doing something wrong with the first.

[main blade]

is godot good for making basic games with python?

[pliant iron]

Someone suggested that to me, I think it's useful for beginners

[olive parcel]

@main blade Godot doesn't support Python very well, no.

I think there's an unofficial project to add Python support to Godot but I don't know how reliable or mature it is.

[main blade]

oh ok

[exotic laurel]

What API or Library can I use for minecraft modding with python?

[limpid gyro]

oh i was at the point of mentioning an off-topic message when i remembered this was a "game" channel @exotic laurel

@olive parcel how can i put 2D graphics in panda3D

like text

[snow hill]

@limpid gyro https://docs.panda3d.org/1.10/python/programming/text/onscreentext

And https://docs.panda3d.org/1.10/python/programming/text/index

[limpid gyro]

and how can i set physics

https://tenor.com/view/need-for-speed-nfs-trees-bump-car-gif-17427943

[snow hill]

I suggest you sort the issue of displaying texts /2D images, before trying to struggle with any physics subsystem, be it in Panda or anywhere else 😃

[limpid gyro]

BRUH

@snow hill i displayed some text already

also

how do i setup a while loop ?

[snow hill]

I apologize in advance, but do you know how the word « please » works ? 😃

Good if you managed to display some texts.

Was it before or after I posted the URL to OnScreenText ?

[limpid gyro]

oh so sorry

[limpid gyro]

i displayed text after reading the Documentation Link

please, can you tell me how to put a while loop in panda3d ? @snow hill

[snow hill]

sorry @limpid gyro i'm not familliar with Panda3D

[limpid gyro]

oh ok

[snow hill]

but I'm sure you have plenty of examples on Panda3D website

[pallid trail]

what happened to the python discord logo

[potent ice]

It changed. See #announcements

[sullen gazelle]

i need help creating a frog jump game

can someone help me

[hearty trench]

yeah sure

[waxen nebula]

is there a equivalent to unit, but for python?

[hearty trench]

@sullen gazelle Do you have a help channel?

[sullen gazelle]

no i dont

can you dm me @hearty trench

[unkempt goblet]

anyone here familiar with Zobrist hashing for chess engines?

[hearty trench]

no

[unkempt goblet]

me either

[sullen gazelle]

i need help creating a terminal based frog jump game can anybody help me

[tranquil girder]

can you be more specific?

[sullen gazelle]

Can you join my help channel

Its help neon

@tranquil girder

[burnt ingot]

has any body used ursina game engine?

[dawn quiver]

I tried to learn that
But was not able to
Cuz a wierd error was coming and i wasn't able to find any solution cuz most people use panda3d directly

[pallid trail]

ursina seems a bit akward

[silent panther]

hi im trying to draw an arc in pygame

im building a snow man

arc is for the smile but

idk how to

[burnt ingot]

@dawn quiver it takes alot of work but i can pm you the scripts i have

i like ursina

[pallid trail]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nobdBWzO1yQeEI5XBnqi0EFvmqcKkF8I/view?usp=sharing

sum i made in 2 minutes cuz i was bored

[burnt ingot]

from ursina import *
from ursina.color import rgb
from Visuals.graphics import *
import keyboard

app = Ursina()
Redcube = Entity(model="cube", color=color.rgb(0, 0, 0))


class settings(object):
     def __init__(self):
          self.title = 'My First Game'
          self.show_fps = True
          self.fullscreen = True
          self.boarderless = False
          self.show_x = True
          self.keys.Stable = '7'


def update():
     x = 1500
     if keyboard['+']:
          x + 15

     if keyboard['-']:
          x -35

     if x > 1400:
          Redcube(color=color.rgb(65, 0, 30))
     if x > 1500:
          Redcube(color=color.rgb(155, 0, 75))
     if x > 1600:
          Redcube(color=color.rgb(200, 30, 30))
     if x > 1700:
          Redcube(color=color.rgb(255, 0, 30))
     Redcube.rotation_x -= x * time.dt
     Redcube.rotation_y -= x * time.dt
     if held_keys['a']:
          Redcube.scale_x += 3 * time.dt
          Redcube.scale_y += 3 * time.dt
          Redcube.scale_z += 3 * time.dt
     if held_keys['w']:
          Redcube.scale_x -= 3 * time.dt
          Redcube.scale_y -= 3 * time.dt
          Redcube.scale_z -= 3 * time.dt


app.run()

there is every thin for ursina that i have done so far

[buoyant vessel]

if I have a sprite sheet with exact coordinates in xml to various pieces, how can I load those as individuaal Sprite objects in arcade https://arcade.academy/_modules/arcade/sprite.html

For instaance, i havae something like this

<TextureAtlas imagePath="sheet.png">
<SubTexture name="blue_boxCheckmark.png" x="380" y="36" width="38" height="36"/>
<SubTexture name="blue_boxCross.png" x="380" y="0" width="38" height="36"/>
<SubTexture name="blue_boxTick.png" x="386" y="210" width="36" height="36"/>
<SubTexture name="blue_button00.png" x="0" y="94" width="190" height="49"/>
<SubTexture name="blue_button01.png" x="190" y="49" width="190" height="45"/>
....

like, its an img of many pieces in one image

[limpid gyro]

i dont think i can help you, but AGAIN someone hasn’t specified which module they’re using

[tranquil girder]

He did, it's arcade

[limpid gyro]

woop, misseen that @tranquil girder @buoyant vessel

[buoyant vessel]

I'm not sure that arcade has the ability to do this built into it unless I missed it in the docs. But there might be some othere python solution for sectioning an image off by those values and saving individual imagess maybe.

[potent ice]

I think it only supports separate files at the moment. There's work going on to support all tmx features so this is likely to work in the future.

[burnt ingot]

has any body used textures in ursina

i tried but had no luck

[tranquil girder]

yes

what did you try?

Entity(model='cube', texture='name_of_your_texture')

[burnt ingot]

yes

but i mean like external textures

i have one but if i load it in my cube turns white and not the red of the texture

[little hatch]

Gonna program a snake game using the turtle, time and random modules.

[burnt ingot]

why random?

[little hatch]

so that the food appears in different places

each time

[tranquil girder]

You should have the assets in the in the same folder or a folder below your project folder. That way it will work on every computer regardless of folder structure.
You can change application.asset_folder to something else if you need to though.

[burnt ingot]

what do you mean

because you just need a jpeg./img. file to use for a texture

[tranquil girder]

Is that not what you meant with external textures, files outside the project?

[burnt ingot]

@tranquil girder i have mine set up like

Redcube = Entity(model="cube", texture='Red-Matter')

red matter is the name for my jpeg file

[tranquil girder]

Oh, apparently it doesn't find jpegs, only jpgs. You can include the file type as well and it should work

[burnt ingot]

have yo useen the cheet sheet site or no

some of the textures on there don`t even work

[tranquil girder]

Which ones?

[burnt ingot]

ik cobblestone doesn`t

that one just makes the cube whits\

i use an isosphere though

[limpid gyro]

@olive parcel are you available ?

[burnt ingot]

i am

[limpid gyro]

yeah but i want someone good at panda3d

@burnt ingot

[burnt ingot]

i use a simular platform

ursina which build off panda3d

[limpid gyro]

yeah but commands are different right ?

@burnt ingot

[burnt ingot]

oh yeah they mingh

i mean i can open a windo in panda3d but thats about it

[limpid gyro]

k

im having problems rotating my camera

@burnt ingot

@olive parcel

but absolutely nothing is changing

[burnt ingot]

i rotate objects

[olive parcel]

@limpid gyro nope, am not, ask in panda3d discord, and maybe this time without leaving straight away so that people get a chance to answer

[burnt ingot]

try ```py
if key['a']:
camera.rotation_x += 35 * time.dt

[limpid gyro]

alright

[limpid gyro]

it;s very different

from panda3d

[burnt ingot]

ok

mine just says RedCube instead of camera

i recomand ursina though. it is very nice and the resolution is amazing

[buoyant vessel]

In arcade, what determines if a thing will be drawn on top of something else. For example, I have aa background image that is covering rendered text that is visible if i remove the background

I assume order of being drawn

But, since things are often drawing themseles over and over again how can it be that

[leaden thicket]

@buoyant vessel https://megacatstudios.com/blogs/retro-development/sprite-layering-on-the-nes

[buoyant vessel]

That is interesting. In my case it was just drawing full screen arcade.draw_lrwh_rectangle_textured() after draw_text() .

Weirdly, the sprites didnt seem to be bothered by thata

The problem that I kind of have is thata... when I run this at full screenm it messes up the placement of things. I see why a lot of games change your resolution before you caan open them.

[leaden thicket]

either code is dynamic or not 🙂

arguably elastic

[sweet condor]

Quick pygame question. Anybody have a way to get the absolute time of playing music? pygame.mixer.music.get_pos() returns relative time, which is relatively infuriating

[pallid trail]

oop, i havent delved into that yet

id read documentation tho

idk i might make a tick counter or something similar

[pallid trail]

^

[buoyant vessel]

The way you would have to do it is start a timer every time you start a song.

[sweet condor]

Yeah I ended up storing the time twice essentially

[buoyant vessel]

But I dont have experience with pygame either

[pallid trail]

i just make the games without audio

[sweet condor]

I'm a musician, that would be blasphemy

[pallid trail]

i find it superficial if im not going to export it

[buoyant vessel]

I definitely like to think about and add audio. Simple games thaat people describe as charming often only are so for very small mood sets like that

I haavent made a game though very recently. Im kinda getting back into it from mainly doing web stuff.. I'm trying out arcade just to do it.

[sweet condor]

I was working on an adaptive soundtrack, music that changes as you pass between areas and such

[pallid trail]

nice

[buoyant vessel]

My guy can't jump.... lol. He jumps like less thaan a pixel.

I cant seem to figure out whaat im missing here

[pallid trail]

show code

[buoyant vessel]

nevermind! I know whaat the problem is. I was editing the wrong file lol

I was wondering why it waasnt changing

[sweet condor]

Ah nice

[buoyant vessel]

Its just the intro stuff on the official arcade site

[sweet condor]

I love when I edit a module and forget to save it and run the main file and can't understand why nothing changed

Sigh

[pallid trail]

lol same

[leaden thicket]

dynamic audio.. music... thats complicated 🙂

[buoyant vessel]

The only reaason this is happening to me is this dev provides a lot of example scripts that ive been referencing when things arent working in mine

[pallid trail]

lmao

[buoyant vessel]

aand its easy to confuse them as im leaarning

[sweet condor]

It really is, having a much harder time than I expected getting it working

[leaden thicket]

i'm not into games right now but it's sorta related so lemme share some links

https://github.com/yuma-m/synthesizer

https://github.com/ideoforms/isobar

https://github.com/atheler/klang

[sweet condor]

It now works, just not as…cleanly as I'd like. But I think I can tweak it to my liking, the key is just getting it working to begin with

[leaden thicket]

did some research haha on github and there is many more but these jumped at me

[sweet condor]

I do love pygame but it does have the problem of not being compatible with a lot of other modules / any that use SSL

[buoyant vessel]

yeaah, I dont like pygame because of things like thaat. I never did. But to be honest, I havent thought about actually trying to make a game until lately. Im bored enough with the web now to consider giving it a shot.

[pallid trail]

the only reason im doing pygame is so i can say "look i released a game without using a game engine"

[buoyant vessel]

I didn t give it a good chance. It has trouble with sound libraries on Linux and I was done. Already invested too much time in other things to focus on games. But lately I just waant to maake one. Mostly from boredom with programming useful things

[leaden thicket]

ah arcade is the name of the libaray i didnt know of 😉

[buoyant vessel]

The issue is, to make a truly good game I can't do it by myself becaause.... I'm not really an artist.. Arguably I can implement decent design but I cant make stuff look good from nothing. But lately im considering somethng more... simple.

I wonder what the best way to organize these projects is as they get larger. Basically everything is stuffed into a general event handler with conditions.

[leaden thicket]

switching the handler 😉

[limpid gyro]

@buoyant vessel for graphics i use paint with some tips

for games i use pygame

and i dont find the problem with it

[umbral hearth]

I am looking for a library to play/stream audio files from terminal (without X11): it's for a game, so I need it be able to signal when the media ends and change audio volume (per file, not the global mixer)

There is such thing available?

[dawn quiver]

not sure if this is the right place to ask this but i am trying to get into python so i can make games can someone recommend me an engine (preferably free) that uses python

[leaden loom]

python arcade

[umbral hearth]

@dawn quiver other than python arcade, if you're fine with a heavily pythonesque engine, there's Godot. It uses it's own scripting language (GDScript) but you can see it tail very closely Python. (also, you can still add your own Python modules anyway)

[leaden thicket]

how about pygame 2? is it worth a look?

[potent ice]

If you are new to python I would recommend https://learn.arcade.academy/

Nothing wrong with the other alternatives. It's just that the tutorials and docs in arcade as superior.

Can move on to other libraries later. What you learn will apply pretty widely.

[sweet condor]

I am an artist if you want to start a project

[summer hamlet]

helloo

i need help with making a game using pygam and python

like ideas

[tranquil girder]

what happens?

[snow hill]

What seems wrong is that you should explain:

• what you do expect
• what it actually happens
  Possibly with a screenshot if it makes sense

A screenshot of the result, I mean 😃

What do you use as a debugger ? PyCharm ?

Is there anything in the output log ?

it should, at least, display an error message if the jpeg/png file cannot be found

what happens if you try with a bogus filename for bg_surface = pygame.image.load("bg.jpg").convert_alpha()

let's say, bg______.jpg instead

ok, so I guess we can say that it successfully loads the file

before you changed the filename, I mean 🙂

right?

can you try bg_surface = pygame.image.load("bg.jpg") ?

without the convert_alpha

same black screen?

I'm not familliar with pygame, still, I wonder if there shouldn't be a flip() or something like that, somewhere in the while loop

or update()

or smthing like that

am I right?

[bold barn]

Do yall use Pycharm?

[snow hill]

VSCode sometimes

hehe, that's what she said

[bold barn]

Ah okay Ill check that out

[snow hill]

so does it work now?

[bold barn]

and for grapics what do you guys use to create it

[snow hill]

@bold barn photoshop/3dsmax/pro motion sometimes (for my Amiga stuff).
How old are you, btw? (i'm just curious of the average age, here)

[bold barn]

I am about 18, what about you

[snow hill]

aouch

46 😄

[bold barn]

trying to just learn some stuff

[bold barn]

ahh okay cool, how long have you been programming?

[snow hill]

@dawn quiver any good news, then? does it work ?

@bold barn I started to do some shitty code at 12yo on a 4Mhz computer, does that count?

[bold barn]

well yeah, do you code full time?

[celest field]

@dawn quiver idk if u found the solution but u havent updated ur screen

and u havent set the cooour

colour

[snow hill]

@bold barn not full time, doing some project management too 🙂

[bold barn]

ahh okay cool, what OS do you use?

[snow hill]

@bold barn Windows 10, mostly

[bold barn]

Ime just trying to figure out if I am using the right stuff

[bold barn]

alright cool.

I changed my PC to Linux and my laptop is on windows 10

[snow hill]

linux is OK for Python

[bold barn]

alright yeah I got both so I can expand my options

[umbral hearth]

I am looking for a library to play/stream audio files from terminal (without X11): it's for a game, so I need it be able to signal when the media ends and change audio volume (per file, not the global mixer)

[snow hill]

@umbral hearth this, maybe ? https://pypi.org/project/PyOpenAL/

[umbral hearth]

I'll check it out, thanks @snow hill

[silent panther]

import pygame, sys

pygame.init()
pygame.display.set_caption('Animation')
x,y = 0,0 
s= 50

xscreen, yscreen = 800,550

windowSize = (xscreen, yscreen)
screen = pygame.display.set_mode(windowSize)

directionX, directionY =1,1
clock = pygame.time.Clock()

WHITE = (255, 255, 255)
Green = (0,255,0)


while True:
  for event in pygame.event.get():
    if event.type == pygame.QUIT: 
      sys.exit()

  screen.fill(WHITE)
  pygame.draw.rect(screen, Green, (x, y, s, s))

  x+= 9 * directionX #change direction of rectangle

  if x + s > xscreen:
    directionX *= -1

  pygame.display.update()
  clock.tick(30)```

  if x + s > xscreen:
    directionX *= -1``` so this part makes a boundary for the right side of the screen for the rectangle to go back but what should i do to keep it going back and forth

[snow hill]

if it is outside the boudary, changing the direction won't help it to get back inside 😦

so, the next iteration, the value MIGHT be outside again

and so it remains, outside

[leaden thicket]

not new to python.. but godot looks promising. also looking at https://amethyst.rs/

[olive parcel]

Godot is not a bad engine, but I don't know why people keep bringing it up in relation to Python

[snow hill]

I guess this is because Godot reimplements a simili Python

It creates a confusion

So did Unity in the first place, even, with Boo 😒

[leaden thicket]

guess out of frustration with pygame

and maybe because godot is pythonic looking

dunno 🙂

btw https://love2d.org/

[snow hill]

what is wrong with PyGame ?

[buoyant vessel]

My problem with godot is that I dont want to use an application specific scripting language (GDScript). It seems like a waste of time to learn it, so its not really Pythonic.

If it was Pythonic it would be Python

It looks like Python but its important to remembe that its not

I'm really happy since I added typing.Optional hints to my arcade.Window.__init__ method declarations.

I found the separation of setup and __init__ to be confusing when the list gets really long of just a bunch of stuff.

but with type hints it starts to become more obvious what things are.

[buoyant vessel]

For some reason my movement just became so jerky and i have no idea why, it wasnt like this a second ago

But it doesnt happen in fullscreen, maybe thats why i didnt notice it.

What would cause movement to look different fullscreen vs window?

I think it was a wallpaper on my desktop using opengl shaders. Its not doing it consistently. thats always fun

[dawn quiver]

also the python godot bindings are aesome

[snow hill]

Can you do an import godot from within Python ?

[neon oriole]

did anyone programmed an playerbot before and ca show me how it works?

[limpid gyro]

?

[neon oriole]

@limpid gyro i don't know how to programm a bot for a game

maybe you have a great tutorial for it

[limpid gyro]

nop @neon oriole

discord.py ?

[neon oriole]

yeah

oh ty

[novel smelt]

https://github.com/Magoninho/snake-game-python

[cold storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG5JSveYIwc

B_Pecs developments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdjOAmblyHk - files included in description

[dawn quiver]

which module is best for py game dev?

[patent tendon]

hi, can somenoe help me with pygame

im stuck making a smiley face (arc)

[exotic aurora]

@dawn quiver depends on the complex ity of your game. You could start messin around with Pygame, Pyglet or Arcade. All of em are decent modules tho.

[cold storm]

UPBGE

@dawn quiver

😄

it wrapps bullet physics , SDL2, Audaspace , openGL, and soon Vulkan

[leaden thicket]

https://github.com/UPBGE/upbge thanks

[dawn quiver]

i need help

[leaden thicket]

dont we all

[urban hare]

when i was playing a game, i got an error, anyone know what it is?

___________________________________________
############################################################################################
ERROR in
action number 1
of Create Event
for object S___ann5:

Err0r! 0bject 5ixb0ne d0e5n't ex15t5???
at gml_Object_S___ann5_Create_0
############################################################################################
gml_Object_S___ann5_Create_0 (line -1)
gml_Script_instance_create (line -1)
gml_Object_but14_3_Step_0

[tranquil girder]

that's a game maker error

[dawn quiver]

import pygame
from pygame import *

pygame.init()
dis=pygame.display.set_mode((400,300))
pygame.display.update()
pygame.display.set_caption('Snake')
game_over=False
while not game_over:
    for event in pygame.event.get():
        if event.type==pygame.QUIT:
            game_over=True

pygame.quit()
quit()

I get the error

Can someone please help me on fixing these

Im using python 3.9 btw

[burnt ingot]

does anybody actively use ursina

[fervent cape]

Does 3.9 even support pygame

[dawn quiver]

Yes

[snow hill]

@dawn quiver maybe remove the 2nd line (from pygame import *), it seems redundant with the first import statement

[umbral hearth]

I need key button event library for a game in terminal, currently I am using keyboard ( https://pypi.org/project/keyboard/ ) but it does require superuser level in order to work; there are any other library that works in similar way (without superuser and X11/graphic server)

[burnt ingot]

any body using ursina engine? i just figured out custom textures

@umbral hearth i use ursina engine which builds off of panda3d and i love it.

but if your not willing to do a little extra work then you`ll be fine

[urban hare]

sorry for the late reply but what does the error mean?

[tranquil girder]

It's not python related. I don't know what it means. Just google it

[summer hamlet]

does anyone know how to make a pokemon battle game, but 2d ish and horrible graphics lol

like this

but with pixelated graphics and not really that much complex movement

[umbral hearth]

I need key button event library for a game in terminal, currently I am using keyboard ( https://pypi.org/project/keyboard/ ) but it does require superuser level in order to work; there are any other library that works in similar way (without superuser and X11/graphic server).
Ursine and other engine require graphical interface, my project works in terminal.

[cold storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C52weKqQqF4

[celest field]

@dawn quiver i see ur problem im not sure if u have fixed it but i wanted to ask what ide ur using

when i used visual studio code

i got the same error

so

i use pycharm instead

[hearty trench]

In the second line, instead of from pygame import *
Write:```py
from pygame.locals import *

[dawn quiver]

ok

[rigid bluff]

haaa yes, there is a game channel ❤️ Friendly greetings !

So, here is the thing. i'm using pygame for now and i wanted to try another framework. But : i'm making simulation, not game, and it's not event driver. Basically :

• an "update" loop that run as fast as possible
• a "render" loop that show the current state of the simulation at N fps.
• i tried pyglet with a clock.schedule(update) but the overhead is big when trying to update thousands of time per second
• a quick look show me that arcade is event driven and i didn't explore further
• the ability to have more than one window would be nice but not mandatory

any suggestion ? (btw, 2D only is fine)

TL;DR : i don't want an event loop enforced by the framework

ho and i'm using cython, but it's probably not an issue

[hearty trench]

For some reason I read this in an angry pissed off voice.

Maybe its just me.

[rigid bluff]

ho no no, i'm super zen

it's probably because i started with "so, here is the thing" which is a good introduction for a rant 😄

now that i think about it, pySDL2 might be an good option

[rigid bluff]

yup, switching to SDL2. It have everything i need expected

[snow hill]

@rigid bluff HARFANG is not event-driven, as well

even though it is more focused on 3D

https://github.com/harfang3d/game-winter-z

but if you found everything you need in SDL2, rock & roll 😄

[rigid bluff]

it's not too late. i'm rewriting my simulation from scratch so i don't mind experimenting a bit 🙂

ho, it support imgui

well... overkill for my current project but i keep it in mind. thx 👍

is it easy to understand ? making graph in ascii is harder than i expected -_-

[limpid gyro]

mindconfusing

i prefer coding "grammar"

[rigid bluff]

ha, using some pseudo code instead of graph. good idea

need a break. thx for the help. ❤️

[limpid gate]

[strange halo]

Does anyone know ar development in unity?

[strange halo]

?????

[rigid bluff]

no answer probably mean "no" 🙂

i did some VR but no AR

[limpid gyro]

gamedev is home of stunning records

"Ferrari spotted at 652 km/h"

[hollow mica]

How can I call an entity with ability to see? I need better name for the interface. Sighted?

[severe saffron]

Looker

Viewer

Watcher

those sound like debugging tools though

Sighted is decent

would have to explain it though before i'd know what you mean in code

if that makes sense

[hollow mica]

I'm making a game where you control bots using code. They may or may not have ability to see what happens in distant tiles.

Like whether you install camera on a bot or you keep it blindly following some path.

[rigid bluff]

@hearty trench li just noticed i have my "~~angry ~~ pout smiley" avatar face. that's probably why you read it in angry voice 😆

[hearty trench]

Haaha

[severe saffron]

@hollow mica yeah i understood what you meant when you said 'ability to see'

what i meant was like

Sighted to me could mean that it has been seen

so although the name is good, you might need to make it explicitly clear in code

[hollow mica]

Thanks!

[rigid bluff]

Little bot is watching you :p

[dawn quiver]

someone needs help

[rigid bluff]

what make more sense for a vector.__mul__() cross product or hadamard product ?

nvm, hadamard

[dawn quiver]

Hello

Can I ask you?

I need to write random number into txt file, every milisecond

So like the txt file always contains different number everytime I am trying to read it

And the number should be from like 0.8231 to 0.9689

Okay this is what I found ```python
def main():

import random

outfile = open('numbersmake.txt', 'w')

for count in range(12):
    #Get a random number.
    num = random.randint(1, 100)

outfile.write(str(num))

outfile.close()
print('Data written to numbersmake.txt')

main()```

I still have to loop it forever untill I kill it

[rigid bluff]

you're doing some weird stuff 🙂

[dawn quiver]

It won't work nvm

[empty orchid]

is there a way to make a circular collidepoint on pygame?

[tranquil girder]

you can just check the distance

[elfin frost]

pybullet anyony? 😄

not sure why robot starts moving around 4 ax, instead of first

[sacred lake]

What is the best game engine use Python?

[quiet pumice]

How do I do it so that when I click a certain area an event happens
I am trying to do a x and o game in pygame

[exotic laurel]

need some help with pygame in #help-bread !!

[rigid bluff]

hi

[dawn quiver]

If anyone wanna code with me just join ---> https://prod.liveshare.vsengsaas.visualstudio.com/join?628622F8978152DFE11DE70F8B1765A4C37E

[rigid bluff]

i just woke up, too soon to code 😄

[dawn quiver]

Can anyone help

The VS Code says this is an error

Border checking

if ball.ycor() > 290:
    ball.sety(290)
    ball.dy *= 1

[last moon]

what's the error?

ball.dy *= 1 doesn't do anything btw idk if you meant for that to be -1

[dawn quiver]

Tyyyy

[rigid bluff]

writing a pong i guess ?

[dawn quiver]

Yes

Can you help

[last moon]

if you ask your questions we're all here to help 😄

[dawn quiver]

Oh it doesent work

Wanna write with me

[rigid bluff]

i will probably be able to help once i wake up. ☕

[last moon]

wdym by that

[dawn quiver]

idk

[last moon]

are you getting an error or is it a logical problem

[dawn quiver]

error

[last moon]

what's the error?

[dawn quiver]

Wait

I will let you write

dm me

[last moon]

sorry I'm doing other things, I might be able to help if you send the error here tho

[dawn quiver]

i dont want others destruct my code

[last moon]

if not others can help

[dawn quiver]

I will let you in to see error

[last moon]

that's the thing with writing together, you're letting others do it for you

!traceback

[frank field]

Please provide a full traceback to your exception in order for us to identify your issue.

A full traceback could look like:

Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "tiny", line 3, in
        do_something()
    File "tiny", line 2, in do_something
        a = 6 / 0
ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero

The best way to read your traceback is bottom to top.

• Identify the exception raised (e.g. ZeroDivisionError)
• Make note of the line number, and navigate there in your program.
• Try to understand why the error occurred.

To read more about exceptions and errors, please refer to the PyDis Wiki or the official Python tutorial.

[last moon]

just copy+paste it

[rigid bluff]

send me your liveshare, i'll watch

[dawn quiver]

join i sent you

[last moon]

lol I don't use vs

so that's a bit of an issue

[rigid bluff]

pycharm for ❤️

[dawn quiver]

did you join

[last moon]

^^^

[dawn quiver]

@rigid bluff

[rigid bluff]

VS take forever to start lol

[dawn quiver]

Do i need to delete code that have error and paste that?

code bot sended

[last moon]

copy + paste the actual error (/the traceback)

[dawn quiver]

{
"resource": "/c:/Users/38162/Desktop/FirstGame/ping.py",
"owner": "python",
"code": "syntax-error",
"severity": 8,
"message": "unexpected indent (<unknown>, line 81)",
"source": "pylint",
"startLineNumber": 81,
"startColumn": 5,
"endLineNumber": 81,
"endColumn": 5
}

[last moon]

that's not the traceback but I'm assuming you shouldn't have this code indented

[dawn quiver]

It says line 81

if ball.ycor() > 290:

This code is line 81

[last moon]

    if ball.ycor() > 290:
        ball.sety(290)
        ball.dy *= 1
#vs
if ball.ycor() > 290:
    ball.sety(290)
    ball.dy *= 1```

[dawn quiver]

Border checking

if ball.ycor() > 290:
    ball.sety(290)
    ball.dy *= -1


if ball.ycor() > 290:
    ball.sety(-290)
    ball.dy *= 1

This is my

[last moon]

that shouldn't be indented

by that I mean your ifs

[rigid bluff]

ok i'm in

[dawn quiver]

Again same error for code
if ball.ycor() > 290:

  if ball.ycor() > 290:
        ball.sety(290)
        ball.dy *= 1
#vs
if ball.ycor() > 290:
    ball.sety(290)
    ball.dy *= 1
```This is code first line of code has error

[jovial kraken]

I'm creating a tic-tac-toe game, I want to share it with you guys, I'll get my code

[dawn quiver]

Me

I can help

Send in dm

[jovial kraken]

To help you ?

[dawn quiver]

I can help you to make it

Send code for VS in dm

[last moon]

stick it on a github repo*

if you want to share it with people, git/github is the way to go

[jovial kraken]

No thanks I can do it myself, thanks for the kindness

[rigid bluff]

i find something weird in your code

[dawn quiver]

ok?

What

[rigid bluff]

everything is indented by 1 tab for no reason, and the error happen to be on the last line of your code

so i wonder if you shouldn't deinted everything

[dawn quiver]

U can do everything you need to fix it

[rigid bluff]

i don't know how to deinted the whole code by one in VS

[dawn quiver]

idk

[last moon]

shift + tab usually

[rigid bluff]

ha nvm

it' not indented, it's just VS being weird

[last moon]

when is it not lol

[rigid bluff]

can you run it like this ?

[last moon]

I'm only using it for my current project cause pycharm's mypy extension doesn't work

[rigid bluff]

VS is awesome for C# but i bought pycharm to code in python 🙂

[last moon]

would you recommend the professional version?

idk it doesn't seem like i'd get much out of it

[rigid bluff]

it depend what you do, but here is what happened to me :

installed the trial, got a pro for N days

the trial ended

switched to community for 10mn : wtf, everything is gone

bought pro 😄

but it depend what you do i guess

[last moon]

like I think I can get it for free with my school email but idk I don't see the point in it

[rigid bluff]

scientific mode, profiler, remote interpreter, deployement, ...

ho and jupyter

[last moon]

eh I'd rather use collab if I'm using notebooks

[rigid bluff]

to each their own.

i wouldn't survive without a profiler so even if it was just that i would have bought it anyway

[last moon]

fair enough that'll probably be nice whenever I get into game stuff more

@dawn quiver you still here?

[rigid bluff]

the remote interpreter is really nice too

i can code in local but i have my code executed on a beefy server

or an another OS

[last moon]

mm that does sound nice

[rigid bluff]

sometime i play with stuff that only works on linux

but i have a window laptop

eg : https://docs.ray.io/en/master/#

not for game 😄

well, i guess you could, but meh

[last moon]

oh I've actually heard about that before

seems neat

[rigid bluff]

i didn't test extensively. but for i found it easy to use

and i ran it only on a single computer

[last moon]

!traceback

[frank field]

Please provide a full traceback to your exception in order for us to identify your issue.

A full traceback could look like:

Traceback (most recent call last):
    File "tiny", line 3, in
        do_something()
    File "tiny", line 2, in do_something
        a = 6 / 0
ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero

The best way to read your traceback is bottom to top.

• Identify the exception raised (e.g. ZeroDivisionError)
• Make note of the line number, and navigate there in your program.
• Try to understand why the error occurred.

To read more about exceptions and errors, please refer to the PyDis Wiki or the official Python tutorial.

[last moon]

@dawn quiver there you go

I can't remember the software but ik there was a cloud service for petabytes of storage for more sciency related data

idk why/how I'd use that but it seemed really cool

this is also very off topic lol

~~petabytes of sprites 😆 ~~

[rigid bluff]

i have petabytes at work 😄

[last moon]

god that's the dream

[rigid bluff]

meh, you get used to it very quickly

[last moon]

if it doesn't take hours to sift through automatically, what's the point

[rigid bluff]

it's jut endless rows of disk and tapes

[last moon]

honestly ik I'd get bored real quick but it'd still be fun

[rigid bluff]

exactly

just like when i started programing i was dreaming of owning a 20MB HDD

now i have 20TB at home and... meh, so what ?

or a 1TB USB SSD in my bag, just as if it was a bigger usb key

[last moon]

idk whether to be impressed or mad at your disregard lol

I've got like 1.5 tb between 2 laptops and idk if I'll ever get anywhere close to using it

unless I get hardcore into ds or smthing

[rigid bluff]

it's just that you get used to it so quickly

[last moon]

ya I don't doubt it

[rigid bluff]

perhaps because i'm getting older too. my first computer had 64KB or ram... but now it's so much bigger and cheaper... it' no use being impressed by anything anymore i guess...

that's just how it is... stuff get bigger, better, cheaper, every year

it's like being impressed every morning "woaaa the sun came back today too" 😄

[last moon]

lol ya I get what you're saying I've noticed a shift in the price of stuff in the past year or so

especially with debranding

[rigid bluff]

prices will raise btw

because of covid

[last moon]

I think they already have

[rigid bluff]

probably

there is a huge import/export imbalance. so they send planes and ship full of stuff one way, but the plane/ship will probably come back empty so the transport fee doubled to pay for the empty return trip

afk coffee

[last moon]

but I've noticed more stuff like the kfocus recently (https://kfocus.org/) and like idk if that sort of debranding has been a thing for a while and is just now gaining traction or if it's new

also the new [g/c]pu's are relatively extremely cheap compared to what new models usually sell for

[rigid bluff]

checking

Ooooooo

[last moon]

and that cccouuld be covid, but I'm thinking it's companies starting to realize they don't need to overprice + inflate their products to make a profit

right?

I'm thinking of getting one

like 2k for a 2070 and 32 gb of mem?

that seems pretty good to me

[rigid bluff]

wth

need, want

ho wait

it's so cheap because of blackfrday

[last moon]

black friday is only a 400$ discount
which i mean ya it's quite a bit but still..

[rigid bluff]

yeah, above 1500$ i'd buy a tower instead

with a threadripper ❤️

[last moon]

ok but this tho

they've fully optimized the hardware, it's not like they're just putting together a laptop and selling it

[crisp junco]

this is #game-development I think you both should chat in #ot1-perplexing-regexing

[last moon]

probably

[rigid bluff]

yup, mmy bad

[crisp junco]

🙂

[rigid bluff]

brb

[last moon]

no wait this is relevant for my... neural network ai npc's?

auto generated sprites??

idk smthing like that

[rigid bluff]

that would be for #data-science-and-ml 🙂

well, technically i'm doing both. an AI that play game

[last moon]

iss that both tho?? 🙃

[rigid bluff]

i'm making both the game and the AI, i spend more time on game stuff than on ai stuff

[last moon]

sounds like hell fun lol

anyways I've gotta blast, good talk, have a good one, that sort of thing

[rigid bluff]

seeya

[dawn quiver]

Do anykne know how to convert .py to .exe fast

[rigid bluff]

py2exe

https://arcade.academy/tutorials/bundling_with_pyinstaller/index.html a good tuto

it's for arcade but should work with anything

[rigid bluff]

i blame my past self for deciding to write unit test for my Vector class ...

it take so much time to write ...

[pseudo lintel]

auto-py-to-exe does the job easily

Just pip install auto-py-to-exe and when it gets installed, type auto-py-to-exe in the terminal to start it. It uses a very good GUI, and it uses pyinstaller to convert scripts to exe

[limpid gyro]

does pyinstaller makes .app files

[rigid bluff]

pySDL2 is actually really cool

if you don't mind feeling like your coding in C, it's a direct binding

        sdl2.SDL_Init(sdl2.SDL_INIT_VIDEO | sdl2.SDL_INIT_EVENTS)
        self.window = sdl2.SDL_CreateWindow(b"Deep Learning Car 2", sdl2.SDL_WINDOWPOS_CENTERED,
                                            sdl2.SDL_WINDOWPOS_CENTERED, 800, 600, sdl2.SDL_WINDOW_SHOWN)
        self.surface = sdl2.SDL_GetWindowSurface(self.window)
        self.renderer = sdl2.SDL_CreateRenderer(self.window, -1, sdl2.SDL_RENDERER_ACCELERATED)

[tranquil girder]

It feels like using pygame, which makes sense I guess

[olive parcel]

pygame is more or less a Python binding for SDL too

[frozen knoll]

This Arcade-library version of Conway’s Game of Life speeds everything up by using controlling a cell’s visibility through its alpha value, and handing the drawing logic off to the graphics card.

Grid-based games can take a while to render the program uses classic raster-based graphics. Every cell has to be re-drawn every single frame. If the cells are complex at all, that adds to the rendering time.

In this program, we create all cells in the grid to begin with. (This does causes the program to pause a while at start-up.)

After the sprites are created, we turn the cells on and off by their alpha value. We can update the entire grid by simply sending a list of alpha values to the graphics card. This significantly improves drawing time.
https://youtu.be/6TZ_lwbioRA

Source code: https://arcade.academy/examples/conway_alpha.html

[spring oasis]

https://giulio-bassanino.itch.io/level-editor

idk if i should put this here or in #software-architecture but i've been working on a level editor that auto-tiles as it was always a hassle for me to pick the correctly borders for every tile in my levels